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<< >> English 中文 Русский 한국어 日本語 Español Français [2015-12-16 04:10:37] 24hourz : whoah that order for 226660 !! [2015-12-16 04:10:46] j8 : 1000 XBT liquidation [2015-12-16 04:11:09] irbbqu : ? [2015-12-16 04:11:18] irbbqu : ah nvm [2015-12-16 04:11:30] chromaticcr : dpe back to 0 [2015-12-16 04:11:36] habibi : just wait [2015-12-16 04:11:36] cekseh : 11.54btc minimum liquidation [2015-12-16 04:11:36] micmix : anyone brave enough want to short 225k? :-) [2015-12-16 04:11:39] habibi : if we go up [2015-12-16 04:11:41] cekseh : Assuming he was max leverage [2015-12-16 04:11:42] habibi : then fucked up [2015-12-16 04:13:19] 24hourz : 174210 [2015-12-16 04:13:25] laisee : damn. someone is hurting a little now [2015-12-16 04:13:26] cekseh : someone was 15k brave enough [2015-12-16 04:13:46] habibi : people closed longs [2015-12-16 04:13:50] habibi : micmix: u ok? [2015-12-16 04:13:53] habibi : sleger: ? [2015-12-16 04:13:56] irbbqu : Closed some longs in it. [2015-12-16 04:14:21] micmix : habibi: yep, that was a good drop [2015-12-16 04:14:39] habibi : yep bots or people get so fucked up [2015-12-16 04:14:42] habibi : by selling at 400 [2015-12-16 04:14:49] laisee : now thats what I volatility ;-) [2015-12-16 04:15:13] micmix : If I understand what sleger is doing, his bot should have 100+ btc long now :-) [2015-12-16 04:15:27] habibi : i think he would be happy here [2015-12-16 04:15:48] habibi : imho he got fucked up :( [2015-12-16 04:16:15] laisee : he is prolly gently sobbing into his keyboard now [2015-12-16 04:16:30] chromaticcr : somehow it is amazing that with 5 times more leverage than woodchipper and such a thin orderbook, the DPE is 0 while woodchipper still got like 5kBTC unfilled..... [2015-12-16 04:16:32] habibi : sleger: please respond... [2015-12-16 04:16:43] habibi : dont worry we will get to that [2015-12-16 04:16:50] habibi : of no if one more leg down [2015-12-16 04:18:56] donkey : where can you see dpe? [2015-12-16 04:19:12] BitMEX_Sam : Next to price in the orderbook [2015-12-16 04:19:42] chromaticcr : the number next to the [ i ] symbol [2015-12-16 04:19:45] BitMEX_Sam : It's indicative, bear in mind. Doesn't mean it will settle that high. [2015-12-16 04:20:06] micmix : 10% now but it will be gone on another down spike [2015-12-16 04:20:42] micmix : I think all high-leverage longs got cleared by now [2015-12-16 04:21:18] habibi : micmix: it wont probally [2015-12-16 04:21:23] habibi : last time was same as now [2015-12-16 04:22:20] micmix : maybe, I thought it would go down to 10% last time but I was wrong [2015-12-16 04:22:59] habibi : BitMEX_Sam: beside huge dpe everythings ok with market? [2015-12-16 04:23:24] BitMEX_Sam : Yep, Market is trucking along [2015-12-16 04:23:31] habibi : k [2015-12-16 04:23:41] habibi : great.. fucking dpe :/ [2015-12-16 04:23:56] j8 : it's becoming more aggressive these days :) [2015-12-16 04:24:07] BitMEX_Sam : That 232k liquidation has a lot to do with it [2015-12-16 04:24:15] gaoMex : We need more MM clearly. [2015-12-16 04:24:18] habibi : again half of accounts here wiped [2015-12-16 04:24:19] 24hourz : that thing was huge [2015-12-16 04:24:20] habibi : probally [2015-12-16 04:24:26] habibi : i mean i dont know how much it was last time [2015-12-16 04:24:43] habibi : but silence of sleger talks much [2015-12-16 04:24:48] habibi : tells* [2015-12-16 04:24:59] 24hourz : I wish we had a show on cnbc. Call it mad bitcoin. "HODL HODL HODL!!!!!!" [2015-12-16 04:25:20] habibi : btw.. it was short liquidated lol [2015-12-16 04:26:30] donkey : flash crash to 404 orders got filled and instantly liquidated when it shot back up [2015-12-16 04:28:47] chromaticcr : i wonder why the 17k liquidation order is on a short position and buying, who would have place this order during the big dip... [2015-12-16 04:29:09] 24hourz : market is spooked here we go agaiin in china ? [2015-12-16 04:29:22] habibi : btw BitMEX_Sam it wasnt liq of one account right? it was culnminated ? [2015-12-16 04:30:15] laisee : 24hourz: > yeah, it would be like Games of Thrones and presenter could only say one word "HODL!" [2015-12-16 04:31:12] habibi : BitMEX_Sam: i dont see so many contracts traded under 440 [2015-12-16 04:34:23] podizzler3000 : ok so who got the 404 bid stand and take a bow [2015-12-16 04:34:41] habibi : http://scr.hu/9xvi/67ia7 [2015-12-16 04:34:46] podizzler3000 : wheres the big liquidation at this time [2015-12-16 04:34:50] habibi : but closed it way too early [2015-12-16 04:35:01] podizzler3000 : habibi hell yea! [2015-12-16 04:35:13] podizzler3000 : i had a buy for $30 lol [2015-12-16 04:35:13] chromaticcr : good work bro [2015-12-16 04:35:17] j8 : i got some 425's [2015-12-16 04:35:35] podizzler3000 : my order history is such a shit show [2015-12-16 04:35:41] chromaticcr : mine:https://gyazo.com/e8f25b29e64f8a829eab0d1a35b65351 [2015-12-16 04:35:43] j8 : got a little worried once the book was clear [2015-12-16 04:36:01] podizzler3000 : i had stop losses filling i was market buying and i had bids filling i was on the wrong instrument things were bananas [2015-12-16 04:36:09] micmix : Buy 52 @ 410.90 - that's the lowest fill my bot got [2015-12-16 04:39:20] habibi : dpe can go to 50% max? or 99.(9)? [2015-12-16 04:39:39] podizzler3000 : anyone? wheres the DPE order [2015-12-16 04:39:49] podizzler3000 : 99.9% DPE lol [2015-12-16 04:39:51] podizzler3000 : id hate to see that chart [2015-12-16 04:39:56] donkey : 443 [2015-12-16 04:39:59] habibi : http://scr.hu/9xvi/j100w [2015-12-16 04:39:59] BitMEX_Arthur : 443.08 [2015-12-16 04:40:00] habibi : here [2015-12-16 04:40:09] podizzler3000 : oh i see it ok i thought that was a normal bid [2015-12-16 04:40:32] podizzler3000 : well i did my part and dumped some on it lol [2015-12-16 04:40:37] podizzler3000 : not too smart but whatever [2015-12-16 04:40:41] habibi : so.. if it will goo long [2015-12-16 04:40:46] habibi : then i will make some little money [2015-12-16 04:40:46] podizzler3000 : i bought them way lower [2015-12-16 04:41:00] habibi : if go down then 0% dpe will give me money [2015-12-16 04:41:07] REKT : Liquidated short on XBT24H: Buy 2000 @ 449.67 [2015-12-16 04:41:16] podizzler3000 : habibi yeah but it has to go down more than 10%x100 to get that order [2015-12-16 04:41:31] podizzler3000 : id just root for long and take the 90% profit [2015-12-16 04:41:35] habibi : BitMEX_Arthur: what is max. ammount % for dpe? [2015-12-16 04:41:43] podizzler3000 : 100% [2015-12-16 04:41:53] podizzler3000 : bitcoin hard fork plus bitcoin ceo assassinated [2015-12-16 04:41:59] podizzler3000 : bitcoin headquarters bombed [2015-12-16 04:44:49] laisee : bitcoin math out by 1 ... EPIC FAIL [2015-12-16 04:45:32] habibi : dpe to the moooon [2015-12-16 04:46:00] laisee : podizzler3000: > China prints fake Bitcoin!! ... oh, wait. [2015-12-16 04:46:37] habibi : okc pushin :/ [2015-12-16 04:47:00] chromaticcr : come back down...... DPE... [2015-12-16 04:50:53] BitMEX_Arthur : No DPE on `XBT7D` [2015-12-16 04:51:21] habibi : 7d almost no reaction [2015-12-16 04:51:23] habibi : during that dump [2015-12-16 04:51:46] laisee : strong hands @ 7d [2015-12-16 04:51:59] habibi : nah, no much traders there real time [2015-12-16 04:52:25] laisee : so no much speculation ... ;-) [2015-12-16 04:55:18] slacknation : damn, that liquidation is like 3/4 of open interest? [2015-12-16 04:58:07] BitMEX_Arthur : I suggest traders switch to `XBT7D` if you are concerned about DPE for `XBT24H` until it expires at 12 GMT [2015-12-16 05:00:43] hashman : will DPE go down or up depending on the price? [2015-12-16 05:01:07] habibi : the closer we will get to 443 the more dpe will decrease [2015-12-16 05:04:01] podizzler3000 : really? [2015-12-16 05:04:03] podizzler3000 : howd that happen [2015-12-16 05:04:04] gaoMex : If I am long, should I wish for the price to go up or down considering DPE? [2015-12-16 05:04:38] habibi : if u have withheld profit then down, if u have long then up :p [2015-12-16 05:05:37] cekseh : That moment when you are in position and you don't know which way you want the price to go [2015-12-16 05:06:01] gaoMex : But if still long, won't DPE > profit if price goes up? [2015-12-16 05:06:08] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 6 @ 447.76 [2015-12-16 05:06:08] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 500 @ 447.75 [2015-12-16 05:06:28] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 225 @ 446.90 [2015-12-16 05:06:32] BitMEX_Sam : We're getting back into that liq order [2015-12-16 05:06:35] BitMEX_Sam : DPE is decreasing. [2015-12-16 05:07:02] habibi : and increasing in 3.2.1 [2015-12-16 05:07:09] podizzler3000 : nice [2015-12-16 05:09:00] TraderStefan : I made a deposit which now has 9 confirms but hasn't showed in my account yet. Could you look into it please [2015-12-16 05:10:07] BitMEX_Sam : TraderStefan: Will look into it. [2015-12-16 05:10:20] TraderStefan : thanks [2015-12-16 05:19:03] zanza : wow wtf did i just miss [2015-12-16 05:19:11] zanza : is `REKTosaurus` the highest level of Rekt? [2015-12-16 05:19:39] habibi : so far [2015-12-16 05:19:39] habibi : yes [2015-12-16 05:19:41] habibi : :p [2015-12-16 05:19:51] zanza : i wonder if there is a 500k threshold [2015-12-16 05:20:06] zanza : "REKTangled" [2015-12-16 05:20:18] irbbqu : LOL! [2015-12-16 05:20:49] zanza : its only 165k now, looks like some folks ate into it [2015-12-16 05:22:17] habibi : yep [2015-12-16 05:22:22] habibi : but not much enought [2015-12-16 05:22:45] hashman : where do you view the open liquidations? [2015-12-16 05:24:59] j8 : https://www.bitmex.com/api/v1/order/liquidations [2015-12-16 05:25:55] zanza : still 6 hours left to get it filled [2015-12-16 05:26:21] 24hourz : fomo [2015-12-16 05:26:33] habibi : we wont see another drop imho [2015-12-16 05:26:46] habibi : so only chance to make some profit on long but i dont expect much moovement here as well [2015-12-16 05:30:02] hashman : what happened on XBTH16 liquidation? [2015-12-16 05:30:11] laisee : ongoing [2015-12-16 05:30:51] j8 : that one's been there for a while. [2015-12-16 05:31:15] laisee : 1000 contracts, no biggie [2015-12-16 05:33:46] BitMEX_Arthur : laisee: Trade `XBT7D` no DPE on that right now [2015-12-16 05:34:20] laisee : BitMEX_Arthur: > just looking at that now [2015-12-16 05:34:57] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Arthur: why is that long executed as a bid? [2015-12-16 05:35:52] BitMEX_Arthur : rapidtrades: Are you referring to the liquidation order on `XBT24H` [2015-12-16 05:35:53] BitMEX_Arthur : ? [2015-12-16 05:36:26] rapidtrades : ye [2015-12-16 05:36:44] BitMEX_Arthur : Because the trader who got liquidated was short [2015-12-16 05:36:50] BitMEX_Arthur : So the system needs to buy back those contracts [2015-12-16 05:37:37] rapidtrades : well that's unexpected... [2015-12-16 05:37:46] j8 : rapidtrades: did you miss the crazy action? [2015-12-16 05:38:06] zanza : rapidtrades: unexpected if you did not read the specifications [2015-12-16 05:38:10] zanza : :) [2015-12-16 05:39:20] rapidtrades : just woke up, accidentally muted my computer so didn't hear alerts [2015-12-16 05:39:50] habibi : good for us [2015-12-16 05:40:02] laisee : we ddged a bullet [2015-12-16 05:40:24] slacknation : nice profit for those bottom digger bids [2015-12-16 05:40:44] laisee : rapidtrades: > subscribe to @@RektBitmex on phone and you won't miss the action [2015-12-16 05:40:46] BitMEX_Arthur : http://ak-hdl.buzzfed.com/static/2014-06/26/15/enhanced/webdr07/anigif_enhanced-16456-1403810155-2.gif [2015-12-16 05:40:47] zanza : I guess bots have to take into consideration DPE [2015-12-16 05:41:06] habibi : poort ledger :( [2015-12-16 05:41:08] habibi : poor* [2015-12-16 05:41:15] podizzler3000 : so sledger got burned? [2015-12-16 05:41:25] rapidtrades : $404 low...makes sense i guess [2015-12-16 05:41:27] laisee : BitMEX_Arthur: > new advertising campaign? [2015-12-16 05:41:35] habibi : probally yes if he didnt say a word [2015-12-16 05:41:41] habibi : and now he's gone [2015-12-16 05:41:53] podizzler3000 : liquidated long ? [2015-12-16 05:42:16] habibi : dont know, speculating but i would rather say liuqidated short [2015-12-16 05:42:23] podizzler3000 : oh yeah since its a bid [2015-12-16 05:42:27] podizzler3000 : so he shorted teh bottom [2015-12-16 05:42:42] habibi : but there were no option to short for 200k+ contracts at that lvl [2015-12-16 05:42:47] habibi : so i dont know what happened [2015-12-16 05:42:51] podizzler3000 : strange [2015-12-16 05:42:53] habibi : i mean under ~440 [2015-12-16 05:42:54] j8 : well a lot traded in the 430's [2015-12-16 05:43:12] podizzler3000 : 200k short in the 430s? what a maniac [2015-12-16 05:43:24] zanza : he must of been using isolated, sinec the bottom was like 441, and liquidation 443 [2015-12-16 05:43:29] zanza : very small move [2015-12-16 05:43:30] j8 : i bought a lot 434, 435 [2015-12-16 05:43:37] habibi : ah didnt saw that one before [2015-12-16 05:43:37] habibi : http://scr.hu/9xvi/vhq5d [2015-12-16 05:45:32] slacknation : habibi: any screenshot when <410? [2015-12-16 05:45:42] slacknation : less than 410 [2015-12-16 05:46:28] habibi : http://scr.hu/9xvi/px9on :D [2015-12-16 05:47:23] j8 : nice [2015-12-16 05:47:24] TraderStefan : deposit has comfirmed now, thank you [2015-12-16 05:47:44] habibi : not really, closed it accidently at 410 [2015-12-16 05:47:50] habibi : wanted to long more [2015-12-16 05:47:53] habibi : and wrong buttom [2015-12-16 05:47:55] habibi : n* [2015-12-16 05:50:06] j8 : dang [2015-12-16 05:51:26] zanza : TraderStefan: what ya gunna trade? [2015-12-16 06:07:44] podizzler3000 : can i recommend broiler chickens [2015-12-16 06:09:05] rapidtrades : any news for the crash [2015-12-16 06:09:17] habibi : yep [2015-12-16 06:09:24] habibi : rumors says rapidtrades went long [2015-12-16 06:16:39] zanza : rapidtrades: i think people are very scareed of 3130 [2015-12-16 06:16:40] laisee : whale(s) stranded on a the beach [2015-12-16 06:16:49] podizzler3000 : haha news for the crash [2015-12-16 06:17:04] podizzler3000 : yeah news came through that okcoin needed to sacrifice some longs to the chipper [2015-12-16 06:17:10] habibi : zanza: majority of people bought in case they missed the train [2015-12-16 06:17:19] habibi : then dumping is pretty easy if there is no money left [2015-12-16 06:17:40] zanza : the buys are steady, the sells are sudden [2015-12-16 06:17:43] podizzler3000 : the amount of open contracts at okcoin was getting obscene. 688,000 [2015-12-16 06:17:47] podizzler3000 : each one worth $100 [2015-12-16 06:17:49] zanza : makes me feel that some big players are cashing out [2015-12-16 06:17:55] podizzler3000 : its down to 660k now [2015-12-16 06:18:01] zanza : but new buyers are replacing them [2015-12-16 06:18:10] podizzler3000 : if they are cashing out then holy shit that was not even the tip of the iceberg [2015-12-16 06:18:13] podizzler3000 : i think it was just a shakeout [2015-12-16 06:18:28] laisee : The FED doing some insider trading on OKcoin ahead of todays meeting [2015-12-16 06:18:34] zanza : thats like $66 million [2015-12-16 06:19:19] podizzler3000 : zanza well its 10x or 20x leverage [2015-12-16 06:19:33] podizzler3000 : so divide by 7 or so [2015-12-16 06:20:19] podizzler3000 : close to 10M in real money [2015-12-16 06:20:36] podizzler3000 : a 10M cashout would be catastrophic [2015-12-16 06:20:54] habibi : 660k x 100$ [2015-12-16 06:20:57] habibi : is... [2015-12-16 06:21:04] podizzler3000 : obviously not all of those are longs eather [2015-12-16 06:21:41] podizzler3000 : either [2015-12-16 06:22:34] podizzler3000 : realistically i think we could see a max dump of $100 [2015-12-16 06:22:49] podizzler3000 : if the big players cashed out [2015-12-16 06:24:14] podizzler3000 : kinda like november actually [2015-12-16 06:24:58] podizzler3000 : this pump much different than november [2015-12-16 06:25:11] podizzler3000 : wayyy more volume on huobi, less parabolic, more staggered selling [2015-12-16 06:25:14] laisee : podizzler3000: > think it would be worse than that. I'd expect 50% drop if China took a real D.U.M.P. e.g. OKC or Huobi closed by regulators [2015-12-16 06:25:31] podizzler3000 : oh well yeah i guess if they entire exchange got shut down [2015-12-16 06:25:44] podizzler3000 : i was talking about the whale traders [2015-12-16 06:25:57] podizzler3000 : not a doomsday [2015-12-16 06:26:08] laisee : ah, I see. yes, whales could do $100. [2015-12-16 06:26:40] podizzler3000 : so what are the odds that DPE gets cleared [2015-12-16 06:26:43] podizzler3000 : 20%? [2015-12-16 06:29:57] zanza : there are no odds [2015-12-16 06:30:13] j8 : i'd give it at least a 30% chance of being at most 20% [2015-12-16 06:33:05] podizzler3000 : no double whammy dump tonight? [2015-12-16 06:33:54] irbbqu : okc says y u no buy wall huobi [2015-12-16 06:36:24] laisee : 2/3 of 3/8 of fark-all, IMHO [2015-12-16 06:37:03] podizzler3000 : my 7d realized profit has been quite the ride [2015-12-16 06:47:29] habibi : dpe information box should be counted on settlement price imho, i mean it is in the end so why show information on based fair price [2015-12-16 06:48:20] BitMEX_Arthur : habibi: The futures price represents the best representation of the future price [2015-12-16 06:48:58] habibi : k, u the chief here [2015-12-16 07:22:31] Rasign : what the fee guys ? i make 30% benef and loose money [2015-12-16 07:23:47] habibi : :D [2015-12-16 07:24:00] habibi : https://www.bitmex.com/app/fees [2015-12-16 07:24:26] Rasign : how do you explain it ? [2015-12-16 07:24:50] BitMEX_Arthur : Rasign: I don't understand your question? [2015-12-16 07:25:22] Rasign : I don't understant what expansive fee you applied to me [2015-12-16 07:25:50] podizzler3000 : rasign you should never lose money at 30% [2015-12-16 07:25:52] BitMEX_Arthur : Rasign: If you place an order that is not immediately executed, then someone else trades against your price we pay you 0.025% of the order value [2015-12-16 07:25:54] habibi : if u are outside us u probally get charged 20% for taxes in ur local country [2015-12-16 07:26:03] BitMEX_Arthur : If you place an order that is immediately executed you pay 0.075% [2015-12-16 07:26:05] BitMEX_Arthur : of the order value [2015-12-16 07:26:12] podizzler3000 : even if you are the taker twice 20% profit should be enough to cover it [2015-12-16 07:26:42] BitMEX_Arthur : Rasign: https://www.bitmex.com/app/tradeHistory [2015-12-16 07:26:46] habibi : if u are taker twice 15% profit will make u zero if i am right [2015-12-16 07:27:46] podizzler3000 : pretty much [2015-12-16 07:28:32] Rasign : i bought 450 contract at 452.5, i sell it at 453.75 [2015-12-16 07:29:16] Rasign : now i can't buy 450 contract at 452.5 not enought money [2015-12-16 07:29:24] Rasign : i loosed money ? [2015-12-16 07:29:27] Rasign : right [2015-12-16 07:30:00] habibi : we dont loose money here, we give away to other people [2015-12-16 07:30:02] podizzler3000 : you have to pay another fee to buy [2015-12-16 07:30:05] SnackyCoins : withheld profit is not available for margin [2015-12-16 07:30:14] podizzler3000 : good point snackycoins [2015-12-16 07:30:16] SnackyCoins : fees were taken right away though [2015-12-16 07:30:29] j8 : and the contracts are worth more at 452.5 [2015-12-16 07:30:32] podizzler3000 : yes fees were taken right away, but then it costs more fees to buy again [2015-12-16 07:30:34] SnackyCoins : so yes, until settlement, you have less money [2015-12-16 07:30:44] podizzler3000 : plus your profit is withheld until settlement in 4.5 hours [2015-12-16 07:30:56] Rasign : okay man [2015-12-16 07:31:08] Rasign : i didn't know that [2015-12-16 07:31:15] SnackyCoins : 12:00 UTC for 24h, otherwise it is fridays [2015-12-16 07:31:20] habibi : and u probally won't get whole profit... but this is another story [2015-12-16 07:31:29] SnackyCoins : oh wow just saw DPE lol [2015-12-16 07:31:33] podizzler3000 : habibi whyd you have to do that [2015-12-16 07:31:40] Rasign : so in 4h30 i will win money if i don't do anything righ now ? [2015-12-16 07:31:46] SnackyCoins : yes [2015-12-16 07:31:51] habibi : whaat? saying how it looks right atm? [2015-12-16 07:31:52] Rasign : ok thx man [2015-12-16 07:31:54] podizzler3000 : yes mad loot is coming your way sir [2015-12-16 07:32:02] Rasign : 2 e [2015-12-16 07:32:05] Rasign : is coming^^ [2015-12-16 07:32:10] Rasign : not mad loot [2015-12-16 07:32:14] SnackyCoins : i have a loss today so no dpe for me 8) [2015-12-16 07:32:27] SnackyCoins : gonna try and scoop back up to 0 though [2015-12-16 07:32:39] habibi : Rasign: minus 24% of ur profits :p [2015-12-16 07:32:44] habibi : so far [2015-12-16 07:33:00] SnackyCoins : rektbot is offline, where are the mcs? [2015-12-16 07:33:02] podizzler3000 : so nearly 10 contracts worth of profit is coming your way [2015-12-16 07:33:07] podizzler3000 : try not to spend it all at once [2015-12-16 07:33:37] Rasign : but if i win only 10 contract [2015-12-16 07:33:41] Rasign : i lost money [2015-12-16 07:33:53] Rasign : "or give it to other people" [2015-12-16 07:34:05] podizzler3000 : how do you figure you are losing money if you are winning [2015-12-16 07:34:08] podizzler3000 : that makes no sense [2015-12-16 07:34:13] SnackyCoins : man... need that liquidations page :x [2015-12-16 07:34:23] podizzler3000 : you will be given nearly a nickel USD [2015-12-16 07:34:26] podizzler3000 : time to celebrate [2015-12-16 07:34:28] Rasign : i explain you i buy 450 contract at 452.5 [2015-12-16 07:34:30] habibi : just look if ur total balance here --> http://scr.hu/9xvi/bd2q3 is bigger than u had before [2015-12-16 07:34:30] zanza : where can I see DPE? [2015-12-16 07:34:34] podizzler3000 : ok im outta here [2015-12-16 07:34:38] Rasign : il sell it at 453.75 [2015-12-16 07:34:44] SnackyCoins : zanza: right next to the fair price [2015-12-16 07:34:56] zanza : SnackyCoins: thank you [2015-12-16 07:35:13] Rasign : but now when i want buy 450 c at 452.5 i can't not enought money [2015-12-16 07:35:36] Rasign : ok right [2015-12-16 07:35:40] podizzler3000 : YOUR PROFIT IS WITHHELD UNTIL 4.5 HOURS [2015-12-16 07:35:42] Rasign : i found my money [2015-12-16 07:35:42] SnackyCoins : should not play with your whole account man :) [2015-12-16 07:35:44] habibi : Rasign: do what i said- first thing, second ur profit is withheld until settlement [2015-12-16 07:35:49] Rasign : thx guys [2015-12-16 07:35:55] podizzler3000 : wow we just told you that not even 5 minutes ago [2015-12-16 07:35:56] Rasign : my money was in the balance [2015-12-16 07:36:02] habibi : great [2015-12-16 07:36:04] habibi : gj man [2015-12-16 07:36:05] Rasign : screenshot help me [2015-12-16 07:36:06] habibi : gl trading [2015-12-16 07:36:12] podizzler3000 : :D [2015-12-16 07:36:13] podizzler3000 : carry on [2015-12-16 07:36:30] habibi : dont win too much coz u there are still not that much things to buy with bitcoin [2015-12-16 07:36:32] SnackyCoins : i love my job [2015-12-16 07:36:39] podizzler3000 : whats your job [2015-12-16 07:36:42] habibi : 250k is enought for tesla and some property so take care [2015-12-16 07:36:44] SnackyCoins : this [2015-12-16 07:36:50] podizzler3000 : so no job [2015-12-16 07:36:50] zanza : taking ur guys monies [2015-12-16 07:36:51] podizzler3000 : ok [2015-12-16 07:36:56] SnackyCoins : right xD [2015-12-16 07:37:05] zanza : hes a web dev [2015-12-16 07:37:15] SnackyCoins : oh yeah i make pages to shill my reflinks [2015-12-16 07:37:17] zanza : does posting on twitter count as a job ? [2015-12-16 07:37:27] SnackyCoins : "social media consultant" [2015-12-16 07:37:31] zanza : :) [2015-12-16 07:37:36] habibi : yes man, more if u are twitting on obama's ones [2015-12-16 07:37:54] SnackyCoins : wow bids are meaty [2015-12-16 07:41:22] TschavaTschigger : mornin [2015-12-16 07:42:37] habibi : hello helllo [2015-12-16 07:42:58] podizzler3000 : yeah good support at 443 ;) [2015-12-16 07:43:10] micmix : SnackyCoins: rekt bot is online, no liquidations in the past couple hours. don't worry, the bot is always online :-) [2015-12-16 07:43:30] Rasign : he rekted all night [2015-12-16 07:43:33] SnackyCoins : :) wheres the liquidation at mix? [2015-12-16 07:43:45] Rasign : this morning we are too strong [2015-12-16 07:43:47] habibi : micmix: still no guiness book of biggest rektations? [2015-12-16 07:43:50] Rasign : no liquidation [2015-12-16 07:44:02] SnackyCoins : 23% DPE, someone is rekt somewhere [2015-12-16 07:44:13] habibi : 443 SnackyCoins [2015-12-16 07:44:19] SnackyCoins : tyvm [2015-12-16 07:44:22] habibi : we were even at 404 today [2015-12-16 07:45:03] micmix : I started logging them since Sunday, this was the biggest so far: Liquidated short on XBT24H: Buy 247035 @ 441.08 <b>REKTosaurus</b> [2015-12-16 07:45:12] habibi : ah thanks micmix [2015-12-16 07:45:25] habibi : thats the our dpe broker [2015-12-16 07:45:32] habibi : but only ~170 left [2015-12-16 07:45:35] habibi : k [2015-12-16 07:45:52] SnackyCoins : how many different levels of rekt strings do you have lol [2015-12-16 07:46:01] laisee : going to add ATH Rekt list to the twitter RektBimex bot. plus settlement details. [2015-12-16 07:46:10] BitMEX_Arthur : what's the MEGARekt threshold? [2015-12-16 07:46:50] SnackyCoins : just watched floored. good stuff [2015-12-16 07:46:55] SnackyCoins : lots of saltyrekt [2015-12-16 07:47:13] habibi : SnackyCoins: yea http://scr.hu/9xvi/67ia7 [2015-12-16 07:47:13] SnackyCoins : computers are bastards nyaah [2015-12-16 07:47:39] SnackyCoins : wow dude thats like free money lol [2015-12-16 07:47:53] habibi : nah, closed it accidentally at 410, wanted to long more [2015-12-16 07:47:58] habibi : wrong button in emotions and puff [2015-12-16 07:48:09] habibi : only ~100$ [2015-12-16 07:48:48] micmix : >= 100000 <b>REKTosaurus</b> >= 45000 <b>EPIC REKT</b> >= 15000 <b>MEGA-REKT</b> [2015-12-16 07:49:36] SnackyCoins : Tyrannosaurus REKT [2015-12-16 07:49:59] SnackyCoins : right in the REKTum [2015-12-16 08:02:19] cataquil : mega 4am uct china dump [2015-12-16 08:02:45] cataquil : anyone get a 405 fill [2015-12-16 08:03:02] habibi : read chat history bro [2015-12-16 08:03:09] cataquil : dam wish I left limit open that low [2015-12-16 08:03:55] cataquil : I will have to move to dubai so I can wake to trade such move [2015-12-16 08:03:56] podizzler3000 : haha closed at 410 [2015-12-16 08:04:02] cataquil : bo [2015-12-16 08:04:15] podizzler3000 : how is dubai gonna help [2015-12-16 08:04:24] podizzler3000 : 3000 on okcoin [2015-12-16 08:04:27] podizzler3000 : up up and awa [2015-12-16 08:05:48] cataquil : what is REKT : HODL HODL HODL [2015-12-16 08:05:54] habibi : go dpe go [2015-12-16 08:05:57] habibi : to da moon [2015-12-16 08:06:33] cataquil : ok thailand [2015-12-16 08:06:56] ethexio : Moon is up yes? [2015-12-16 08:07:08] podizzler3000 : seriously? [2015-12-16 08:07:19] podizzler3000 : when was the last time you looked down at the moon [2015-12-16 08:07:49] cataquil : cekseh : cleared the entire orderbook [2015-12-16 08:08:00] cataquil : 4.03am [2015-12-16 08:08:07] micmix : cataquil: REKT bot gets scared when everyone is selling and asks ppl to HODL! [2015-12-16 08:08:46] cataquil : so they closed the book around 4:06am [2015-12-16 08:09:01] ethexio : podizzler3000: your sensors may be malfunctioning [2015-12-16 08:09:19] cataquil : glad I was on low leverage [2015-12-16 08:09:32] cataquil : went underwater but back in profit now [2015-12-16 08:12:41] cataquil : jez someone sold over 23k at 415-412 [2015-12-16 08:13:11] cataquil : buyers back on the tape at 4:07 with 432-5 fills [2015-12-16 08:22:15] podizzler3000 : holy dpe [2015-12-16 08:22:23] podizzler3000 : glad all my profit is on 7d [2015-12-16 08:26:14] macios15 : neggativ [2015-12-16 08:26:16] macios15 : :O [2015-12-16 08:35:38] rapidtrades : zanza: hey what are ur costs on that usd/cny long? [2015-12-16 08:35:44] rapidtrades : spread+rollovers [2015-12-16 08:37:06] raithe : micmix: how hard would it be to port your margin call posting bot to a Telegram channel? How much would you charge to code that? [2015-12-16 08:37:11] zanza : im down .7 btc rapidtrades [2015-12-16 08:37:48] podizzler3000 : usd/cny down today? [2015-12-16 08:37:53] zanza : yeah [2015-12-16 08:38:17] podizzler3000 : what? im looking righ tnow it looks way up [2015-12-16 08:39:28] zanza : Entry price 6.551575 [2015-12-16 08:40:37] podizzler3000 : http://i.imgur.com/6VsQMKX.jpg [2015-12-16 08:40:38] podizzler3000 : what how [2015-12-16 08:41:56] podizzler3000 : looks like its mooning and not much else to me [2015-12-16 08:42:52] zanza : CNH not CNY [2015-12-16 08:42:53] rapidtrades : zanza: I meant cost to get in/out and how much does it cost to rollover the position daily? [2015-12-16 08:43:00] zanza : rapidtrades: idk [2015-12-16 08:43:17] podizzler3000 : oh cnh [2015-12-16 08:47:30] zanza : getting less and less likely the 443 will get used up [2015-12-16 08:47:47] zanza : I think traders are learning here how to use 'isolate' which offsets losses [2015-12-16 08:48:10] zanza : to avoid cascading margin calls [2015-12-16 08:48:49] rapidtrades : yeah in fast markets that $2 extra doesn't matter much i guess [2015-12-16 08:49:01] zanza : also, if you close your position before settlement, does DPE not apply to you ? [2015-12-16 08:49:24] SnackyCoins : no it still does [2015-12-16 08:49:25] rapidtrades : it applies to everyone who made a profit, regardless of when [2015-12-16 08:49:39] SnackyCoins : if you have the advanced UI, and look under advanced margin details [2015-12-16 08:49:44] SnackyCoins : you can see the Withheld Profit bar [2015-12-16 08:49:54] SnackyCoins : that is what is subject to DPE [2015-12-16 08:50:21] zanza : SnackyCoins: so even if I closed my 24H position right now at market, could i be hit with DPE clawback ? [2015-12-16 08:50:29] zanza : in 3 hours [2015-12-16 08:50:36] SnackyCoins : unless you are already negative for the day [2015-12-16 08:50:39] podizzler3000 : snackycoins your statement isnt exactly accurate [2015-12-16 08:50:54] podizzler3000 : i have wihtheld profits from 7d that are not subject to DPE [2015-12-16 08:51:00] SnackyCoins : true withheld profit covers all contracts [2015-12-16 08:51:13] SnackyCoins : but those will be there after settlement still [2015-12-16 08:51:22] rapidtrades : zanza: you'll get taxed on all profit during the last 24 hours [2015-12-16 08:51:33] rapidtrades : on the daily contract [2015-12-16 08:51:45] SnackyCoins : i should have said, "any profits under withheld profit are subject to DPE, if DPE occurs on the contract you made them on" [2015-12-16 08:51:55] podizzler3000 : i think we all know how it works here [2015-12-16 08:51:58] SnackyCoins : but like if you make profit on XBU it never shows up on that bar [2015-12-16 08:52:12] podizzler3000 : our buddy Rasign is gonna be in for a shock tho [2015-12-16 08:52:24] Rasign : ahaha [2015-12-16 08:52:24] podizzler3000 : when his big profits are missing [2015-12-16 08:52:33] SnackyCoins : but like see i'm already down .8 btc for the day on 24h, so if i make that back to zero i am not getting DPE [2015-12-16 08:52:46] Rasign : podizzler3000: Awesome profit [2015-12-16 08:52:48] SnackyCoins : its only if you are a winner for the day will you get it [2015-12-16 08:53:01] podizzler3000 : snackycoins our losses should be discounted too [2015-12-16 08:53:08] podizzler3000 : thats only fair :P [2015-12-16 08:53:17] zanza : ok I understand [2015-12-16 08:53:29] SnackyCoins : our losses are discounted, if you played isolated and got MC'd :) [2015-12-16 08:53:32] zanza : they may have to lower 100x leverage if clawbacks keep happening (maybe to 70x) [2015-12-16 08:53:44] Rasign : @podizzler3000 more i win, less i have money ... its a bit unfair [2015-12-16 08:53:58] rapidtrades : I didn't have a position on so this won't hurt me but it will certainly make me think twice about trading larger sizes here...I've already dropped by testing amounts after the last clawback [2015-12-16 08:54:03] podizzler3000 : i cant believe someone shorted that much at that price [2015-12-16 08:54:10] zanza : isolated margin is the other side of the coin with DPE [2015-12-16 08:54:13] podizzler3000 : must have been around 440 isolated [2015-12-16 08:54:20] SnackyCoins : dont pretend a 24h contract is for hedging lol [2015-12-16 08:54:56] zanza : wow that candle [2015-12-16 08:54:56] podizzler3000 : rapidtrades where you trading these days [2015-12-16 08:55:06] zanza : did it really dip to 405 today? [2015-12-16 08:55:11] zanza : the graph shows it did [2015-12-16 08:55:15] rapidtrades : does anyone have data on clawbacks on 3m and 6m for the past year? [2015-12-16 08:55:17] podizzler3000 : yeah it would have went further [2015-12-16 08:55:36] podizzler3000 : i had a buy order for $30 on 7d i was thinking about putting one on 24hr but i forgot. i think it would have filled honestly [2015-12-16 08:55:40] podizzler3000 : at one point i saw zero buy orders [2015-12-16 08:55:58] zanza : even Finex/Coinbase only went down to like 440 [2015-12-16 08:56:03] podizzler3000 : everyone just mashing market sell [2015-12-16 08:56:03] rapidtrades : yeah dipped to $405....gotta avoid those ''cascading margin calls'' [2015-12-16 08:56:10] zanza : ithought DPE was suppoed to keep stable price! [2015-12-16 08:56:24] zanza : 2 sides of every coin [2015-12-16 08:56:36] rapidtrades : I thought limit orders were supposed to keep us from cascading margin calls [2015-12-16 08:56:47] podizzler3000 : the problem wasnt cascading margin calls [2015-12-16 08:56:52] podizzler3000 : it was people mashing market sell [2015-12-16 08:56:57] rapidtrades : I know, it's sarcasm [2015-12-16 08:57:08] zanza : we dont have market here? lol @podizzler3000 [2015-12-16 08:57:10] rapidtrades : cos that's the excuse for limits over markets [2015-12-16 08:57:20] podizzler3000 : zanza its next to limit [2015-12-16 08:57:51] zanza : I see Limit and Stop Limit [2015-12-16 08:58:02] zanza : no market? maybe its my UI ? [2015-12-16 08:58:19] rapidtrades : yeah no market here either [2015-12-16 08:58:25] podizzler3000 : it only shows up if you have open orders [2015-12-16 08:58:31] zanza : kk [2015-12-16 08:58:33] rapidtrades : oh right [2015-12-16 08:58:33] podizzler3000 : you cannot market open only market close [2015-12-16 08:58:37] podizzler3000 : not sure why that is [2015-12-16 08:59:06] rapidtrades : cos u gotta reinvent that wheel...that's what bitcoin exchanges do [2015-12-16 08:59:21] zanza : people like it though [2015-12-16 08:59:31] zanza : XBu is available, people dont tradeo n it [2015-12-16 08:59:37] zanza : people want 100x XBT [2015-12-16 08:59:47] rapidtrades : the fees are 0.1% [2015-12-16 09:02:32] SnackyCoins : bitmex is against the idea of market orders, they are mostly useless and super super dangerous to use [2015-12-16 09:02:56] SnackyCoins : you can place a limit order for $50 under mkt if you want to fomo out and it will be safer and just as effective [2015-12-16 09:03:09] zanza : fomo out ? [2015-12-16 09:03:10] podizzler3000 : sure as fuck arent useless during a flash crash [2015-12-16 09:03:10] rapidtrades : yeah pretty useless...they're the default market order in other mar [2015-12-16 09:03:19] rapidtrades : kets* [2015-12-16 09:03:37] SnackyCoins : you mean markets that have near unlimited liquidity for regular ppl? yeah [2015-12-16 09:03:37] zanza : you can just set the order price as $1 or $99999