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[2015-12-15 12:51:39] wurstgelee : dunno, small long tho
[2015-12-15 12:51:54] podizzle3k : the selling pressure is getting big
[2015-12-15 12:51:57] podizzle3k : real big
[2015-12-15 12:52:44] wurstgelee : podizzle3k: 2880ish was the same
[2015-12-15 12:52:50] wurstgelee : even more pressure probably
[2015-12-15 12:52:58] wurstgelee : went up nonetheless
[2015-12-15 12:53:15] podizzle3k : i dont mean on the order books i mean on okc futures
[2015-12-15 12:53:35] wurstgelee : oh ok
[2015-12-15 12:53:37] podizzle3k : over 650k open contracts with 50% longs
[2015-12-15 12:53:45] podizzle3k : historically that is doomsday type stuff
[2015-12-15 12:54:06] podizzle3k : 750k / 55% and im out completely
[2015-12-15 12:54:43] wurstgelee : url again please? cant find it in my bookmarks
[2015-12-15 12:54:44] wurstgelee : ffs
[2015-12-15 12:56:38] podizzle3k : https://www.okcoin.com/future/futureTop.do?type=0&symbol=0
[2015-12-15 12:56:59] podizzle3k : the unit is BTC by default you have to be logged into see the contracts
[2015-12-15 12:57:21] podizzle3k : either way trust me those are high numbers
[2015-12-15 12:59:17] sleger : but they're high numbers both ways since long=-short
[2015-12-15 12:59:18] wurstgelee : no trust problem, i just want to have that view open myself
[2015-12-15 12:59:19] wurstgelee : ;)
[2015-12-15 12:59:25] wurstgelee : also np @ login, logged in
[2015-12-15 13:00:31] hellyeahent : acumulation than pump :)
[2015-12-15 13:03:53] podizzle3k : sleger theyre not high numbers both ways if you look. the longs are 2:1
[2015-12-15 13:04:12] podizzle3k : you have to look at sentiment index for that
[2015-12-15 13:46:07] REKT : Liquidated short on XBT24H: Buy 1 @ 459.93
[2015-12-15 13:46:07] REKT : Big whale detected
[2015-12-15 13:46:07] REKT : Liquidated short on XBT24H: Buy 4950 @ 460.28
[2015-12-15 13:46:30] nickhnt : big whale detected?
[2015-12-15 13:46:48] wurstgelee : dont know, dont care
[2015-12-15 13:46:50] wurstgelee : i like it :)
[2015-12-15 13:47:01] wurstgelee : oh lol, that message
[2015-12-15 13:47:08] nickhnt : bring me da bitcorns
[2015-12-15 13:47:25] nickhnt : dunno why the bot said that
[2015-12-15 13:47:36] podizzle3k : because 1 contract
[2015-12-15 13:47:39] podizzle3k : its a joke
[2015-12-15 13:47:50] wurstgelee : why doesnt it say rapidtrades detected then?
[2015-12-15 13:48:02] nickhnt : lol now i see
[2015-12-15 13:48:59] wurstgelee : finex 460 =)
[2015-12-15 13:57:59] hellyeahent : in be4 panic buy ^^
[2015-12-15 13:58:12] habibi : out be4 panic sell
[2015-12-15 13:58:13] habibi : :D
[2015-12-15 14:01:38] hellyeahent : now test 3100 CNY
[2015-12-15 14:02:20] habibi : or 3000
[2015-12-15 14:03:00] hellyeahent : 3000 was tested already, every dip below 3015 was insta bought to over 3020
[2015-12-15 14:05:32] hellyeahent : just woried about margin funding, rates might go rly high
[2015-12-15 14:06:47] hellyeahent : perfect, bitfinex "test dump"
[2015-12-15 14:07:27] hellyeahent : 15m avg holds strong
[2015-12-15 14:11:03] rekt101 : when are withdrawals processed?
[2015-12-15 14:11:34] BitMEX_Arthur : rekt101: They were just processed
[2015-12-15 14:11:40] rekt101 : thanks
[2015-12-15 14:19:39] messiaen8844 : thougts? https://www.tradingview.com/x/FHUyCK5U/
[2015-12-15 14:22:23] hellyeahent : I would connect 3345 and 3132 cny. That means we reach 3100 and insta dump. I trade that today
[2015-12-15 14:24:27] messiaen8844 : indeed, could be:
[2015-12-15 14:24:28] messiaen8844 : https://www.tradingview.com/x/0yxkfg19/
[2015-12-15 14:24:55] messiaen8844 : we could spike throught 3100 THEN dump some
[2015-12-15 14:26:22] messiaen8844 : seems like a good region to take profits and wait for support line bounce or breakout for reentry
[2015-12-15 14:27:14] hellyeahent : im selling 468$ but I think we will break 470$
[2015-12-15 14:29:21] sleger : I think the roulette will go to black but I am betting on red
[2015-12-15 14:30:38] BitMEX_Sam : Ah, the classic "I hate money" strategy.
[2015-12-15 14:31:31] messiaen8844 : lol, how's that?
[2015-12-15 14:31:42] wurstgelee : i think i probably just burn my money so i dont have to bother if long or short.
[2015-12-15 14:31:48] hellyeahent : Nope, its called "do not air for top just to miss is for 2$ "
[2015-12-15 14:32:15] hellyeahent : aim * it *
[2015-12-15 14:32:44] sleger : alright so you're saying it will go down but might go higher by a few $
[2015-12-15 14:33:19] messiaen8844 : for me more like "take partial profits on resistance zones" , rebuy the dips, and if strong momentum get back in soon
[2015-12-15 14:33:20] hellyeahent : I can sell not at top and buy lower than I sold, so yes
[2015-12-15 14:35:02] messiaen8844 : BitMEX_Sam: Care to explain it? Hate money as in "not letting profits run" ?
[2015-12-15 14:35:05] hellyeahent : but we shall see, maybe we have triple top at 460$ and we will go to 445-450
[2015-12-15 14:36:19] hellyeahent : I do that today:
[2015-12-15 14:36:20] hellyeahent : http://i.imgur.com/tkNAUXX.png
[2015-12-15 14:37:42] messiaen8844 : I've seen that kind of chart before. do you post them on reddit ?
[2015-12-15 14:38:56] hellyeahent : no, its borrowed
[2015-12-15 14:39:03] hellyeahent : or stolen :D
[2015-12-15 14:39:56] messiaen8844 : people have all kind of unorthodox charts in BTC world hehe
[2015-12-15 14:41:19] hellyeahent : Im noob trader (only 2 years experience) but I love it
[2015-12-15 14:47:31] messiaen8844 : noob aswell, enjoying a lot trading BTC since november, before I was just holding
[2015-12-15 14:51:36] messiaen8844 : luckily for us market has been easy lately, very directional in larger time frames
[2015-12-15 15:13:08] REKT : Liquidated short on XBT24H: Buy 30 @ 462.06
[2015-12-15 15:13:28] messiaen8844 : finex buying
[2015-12-15 15:13:59] wurstgelee : yep
[2015-12-15 15:14:12] hellyeahent : hmm looks strong..
[2015-12-15 15:14:56] TschavaTschigger : what the hell is going on? we had no significant sale for 1 hour
[2015-12-15 15:15:55] habibi : magic
[2015-12-15 15:15:57] sleger : and the premium so low lol
[2015-12-15 15:16:30] hellyeahent : yes I cant understand that "fair price"
[2015-12-15 15:17:49] wurstgelee : it will move up eventually
[2015-12-15 15:17:55] wurstgelee : maybe
[2015-12-15 15:17:57] wurstgelee : :p
[2015-12-15 15:18:12] wurstgelee : coinbase is still dragging the index down, 50% only now tho
[2015-12-15 15:18:56] hellyeahent : how is fair price calculated ?
[2015-12-15 15:19:06] sleger : it follows the market premium with some moving average
[2015-12-15 15:19:17] sleger : the formula is hidden from the users
[2015-12-15 15:19:21] rapidtrades : yeah when I complained about tat shitexchange being in the index I got mocked...now u see why low volume shithouses shouldn't be used for futures settlement
[2015-12-15 15:19:41] wurstgelee : rapidtrades: the problem was not low volume but extreme volume
[2015-12-15 15:19:41] BitMEX_Sam : sleger: The formula is not hidden, it is documented here: https://www.bitmex.com/app/dynamicProfitEqualisation#fair-price-marking
[2015-12-15 15:19:48] wurstgelee : in case u missed that @ rapidtrades
[2015-12-15 15:20:08] sleger : BitMEX_Sam: How is fair basis computed ?
[2015-12-15 15:20:15] BitMEX_Sam : Read the document, it explains it.
[2015-12-15 15:20:50] sleger : BitMEX_Sam: my apologies
[2015-12-15 15:23:01] sleger : BitMEX_Sam: so fair basis is instantaneous now ?
[2015-12-15 15:23:42] hellyeahent : damn huobi do not follow okcoin as always..
[2015-12-15 15:23:58] sleger : I just placed an order for 11btc at 463 offer side, and fair price was above 463, how is that possible ?
[2015-12-15 15:26:44] BitMEX_Sam : It is not realtime, it recalculates every 30sec.
[2015-12-15 15:27:29] hellyeahent : if settlement happens I have to pay over 2$ per 1 BTC invested right ? (0,5%)
[2015-12-15 15:27:57] sleger : no
[2015-12-15 15:28:27] sleger : most likely you will have new glasses before then and read the fee correctly
[2015-12-15 15:28:34] wurstgelee : sleger: rofl
[2015-12-15 15:29:15] hellyeahent : :D
[2015-12-15 15:29:58] sleger : but this settlement fee is still twice what it should be, it should be half of maker and taker fee and it is not
[2015-12-15 15:31:27] habibi : who is the taker and who is maker at settlement then ;p?
[2015-12-15 15:32:01] podizzle3k : yeah wtf
[2015-12-15 15:32:17] sleger : half
[2015-12-15 15:32:28] hellyeahent : 16k XBT volume = 160 BTC volume ?
[2015-12-15 15:33:03] habibi : yep
[2015-12-15 15:33:03] sleger : if people were smart here, they would place orders just around settlement price, alternate maker/taker and would end up paying less fees, unfortunately everytime i tried to do that there was nobody to sell
[2015-12-15 15:33:40] habibi : sleger: i am doing it
[2015-12-15 15:33:52] podizzle3k : why would anyone be the taker
[2015-12-15 15:33:55] podizzle3k : whats teh incentive
[2015-12-15 15:34:00] j8 : how would you pay less alternating? still 0.05%
[2015-12-15 15:34:05] sleger : because I would put a bid above settlement price
[2015-12-15 15:34:17] sleger : to split incentive
[2015-12-15 15:34:38] TschavaTschigger : I am doing that too
[2015-12-15 15:34:43] rapidtrades : watch out everybody...smone keeps dropping the stupid bombs today
[2015-12-15 15:34:54] podizzle3k : i think its easier just to gtfo before settlment tbh
[2015-12-15 15:35:20] podizzle3k : 9 times out of 10 the fair price 2 hours before settlement is above the eventual settlment price
[2015-12-15 15:35:43] podizzle3k : and if your short better to just ride it out
[2015-12-15 15:35:47] podizzle3k : at least in this trend
[2015-12-15 15:35:54] TschavaTschigger : sleger is right, it's technically 0.1% settlement fee (overall, for both parties), while doing the trade ("manual settlement") is 0.05% overall
[2015-12-15 15:35:57] TschavaTschigger : makes no sense indeed
[2015-12-15 15:35:58] j8 : i had 23800 filled as maker 7 seconds before settlement
[2015-12-15 15:35:59] sleger : still in the last seconds its worth doing
[2015-12-15 15:36:20] laisee : what pod said. settle before you get charged at a price u choose.
[2015-12-15 15:36:30] sleger : TschavaTschigger: Someone's train of thoughts has left the station, maybe you could have brought more people on board :)
[2015-12-15 15:37:15] podizzle3k : sleger do you always throw a slighted insult at everyone when you make a comment or is that anew thing for you
[2015-12-15 15:37:48] sleger : no always has been
[2015-12-15 15:37:55] TschavaTschigger : i've been doing that for weeks, but I usually never end up with large positions close to settlement
[2015-12-15 15:38:04] TschavaTschigger : so I don't really care
[2015-12-15 15:38:24] sleger : I have large positions, I tried a few times, put bids 0.1 above settlement price and almost noone took it
[2015-12-15 15:38:37] TschavaTschigger : just saying the settlement fee structure makes no sense. if all traders were smart, there would be 0 open interest at settlement
[2015-12-15 15:38:58] sleger : exactly my point
[2015-12-15 15:38:59] rapidtrades : cos takers have to pay 16 cents...why would they take ur bids...do basic math ffs
[2015-12-15 15:39:12] rapidtrades : sry 24 cents
[2015-12-15 15:39:25] sleger : they will pay it anyways and at a lower price, do basic reasoning ffs
[2015-12-15 15:40:27] rapidtrades : they pay 24 at entry plus another 16 at settlement so u have to offer 40 cents
[2015-12-15 15:40:36] j8 : yes it makes sense if the taker is closing, not opening
[2015-12-15 15:40:43] laisee : math fight, math fight ....
[2015-12-15 15:40:43] rapidtrades : ah right...
[2015-12-15 15:40:56] sleger : someone's train of thoughts never left the factory
[2015-12-15 15:40:59] rapidtrades : still doesn't add up
[2015-12-15 15:41:09] rapidtrades : 16 >10, have to offer more
[2015-12-15 15:41:24] sleger : I offer better than what they have it is still worth it
[2015-12-15 15:41:40] podizzle3k : so that s your 100k
[2015-12-15 15:41:51] TschavaTschigger : you really try to explain it to him :D
[2015-12-15 15:42:03] sleger : who else will do it otherwise
[2015-12-15 15:42:30] podizzle3k : only works for people trying to buy
[2015-12-15 15:42:40] podizzle3k : majority of people are long atm i imagine
[2015-12-15 15:42:45] laisee : sleger: > could you put this in a spreadsheet and run a onine tutorial.
[2015-12-15 15:42:52] sleger : Funny how he realized he was wrong but still trying to argue I had to offer more though
[2015-12-15 15:42:55] rapidtrades : dude...if u offer me 10 cents I still have to pay 24 cents to take ur bid...so how does it make sense
[2015-12-15 15:43:00] sleger : laisee: sure, I charge about 2btc an hour though
[2015-12-15 15:43:07] podizzle3k : yeah make a powerpoint too
[2015-12-15 15:43:22] wurstgelee : maybe upload a video to youtube, waering a batman mask
[2015-12-15 15:43:26] podizzle3k : +1
[2015-12-15 15:43:26] wurstgelee : *wearing
[2015-12-15 15:43:34] laisee : and all in a big, faat PDF so we can email to everyone.
[2015-12-15 15:43:40] podizzle3k : and rapidtrades wearing a robin costume by your side
[2015-12-15 15:43:46] wurstgelee : lol :D
[2015-12-15 15:43:55] wurstgelee : excellent
[2015-12-15 15:43:57] j8 : rapidtrades: you pay 16 cents at settlement anyway so he's offering you 26 effectively
[2015-12-15 15:44:17] laisee : 10 cents free .... yay
[2015-12-15 15:44:39] sleger : if you lose 10$ because there's a hole in your pocket, do you not pick up a 5$ bill on the floor if you see it ?
[2015-12-15 15:44:43] habibi : j8: like a week or so ago someone bought from me 25k for 1$ above settlement price 5 minute before settlement
[2015-12-15 15:45:07] wurstgelee : habibi: that someone did not know or forget settlement i guess ;)
[2015-12-15 15:45:22] sleger : most likely yes
[2015-12-15 15:45:28] habibi : i dont know, but i liked that
[2015-12-15 15:45:45] rapidtrades : I wouldn't risk it for 2 cents tbh, unless it's literally seconds before settlement...if I want to exit I will prolly have my bids on the other side of ur offer...so I assume everyone's wiaitng for their orders to get filled
[2015-12-15 15:45:48] habibi : maybe it was Bitmex santa claus
[2015-12-15 15:46:19] habibi : nah. 0.3 free btc is good
[2015-12-15 15:46:48] TschavaTschigger : " unless it's literally seconds before settlement" - that's the whole fuking point
[2015-12-15 15:47:17] laisee : slager school for traders who can't do math good.
[2015-12-15 15:48:08] rapidtrades : and there's still a chance that smone will fill my orders...if this happens only 1/4 times I will still make more then trying to hit his stupid bids for 2 cents
[2015-12-15 15:48:27] sleger : still trying to defend your original point are you
[2015-12-15 15:48:42] sleger : why are my bids "stupid" btw ?
[2015-12-15 15:49:23] sleger : I only see limit stop limit close limit and close market tabs for orders, do you have a special tab on your account labelled "stupid orders" ?
[2015-12-15 16:27:42] coolcatgee : @techsupport: Why am I seeing immediate execution alerts for a deep order for a stop loss order?
[2015-12-15 16:28:39] REKT : Liquidated short on XBT24H: Buy 100 @ 466.20
[2015-12-15 16:39:39] REKT : Liquidated short on XBT24H: Buy 40 @ 468.25
[2015-12-15 16:42:29] REKT : Liquidated short on XBT24H: Buy 12 @ 468.56
[2015-12-15 16:56:55] hellyeahent : retest 360, dip ~358-359 (?)
[2015-12-15 16:59:17] wurstgelee : hope so
[2015-12-15 16:59:20] wurstgelee : need to reload
[2015-12-15 16:59:22] wurstgelee : ;)
[2015-12-15 17:03:58] TschavaTschigger : BitMEX_Sam: you here?
[2015-12-15 17:04:08] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah, what's up?
[2015-12-15 17:05:17] TschavaTschigger : BitMEX_Sam: is there any chance you could implement the value of the position in the trade history at trade date?
[2015-12-15 17:05:49] BitMEX_Sam : Hmm. I agree that would be useful, we'd have to join it with another table to do it - I'll ask Wally about it
[2015-12-15 17:06:23] TschavaTschigger : Thanks
[2015-12-15 17:06:42] BitMEX_Sam : Just entered a ticket for it. I'll let you know.
[2015-12-15 17:11:19] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 506 @ 465.94
[2015-12-15 17:11:55] TschavaTschigger : goblinmoon™
[2015-12-15 17:27:32] wurstgelee : moar down please
[2015-12-15 17:35:30] hellyeahent : as prediced 458,81$ dip ^^
[2015-12-15 17:35:47] sleger : hellyeahent: nope : hellyeahent: retest 360, dip ~358-359 (?)
[2015-12-15 17:35:52] sleger : you were 100 points off
[2015-12-15 17:36:54] hellyeahent : no, I told dip 358-359 so I was right
[2015-12-15 17:37:13] sleger : it dipped to 458 not 358
[2015-12-15 17:37:14] hellyeahent : ah I see now :D
[2015-12-15 17:37:27] hellyeahent : who would care about 100 bucks :P
[2015-12-15 17:37:43] sleger : 666 soon anyways
[2015-12-15 17:37:49] Neox007 : aaaaa
[2015-12-15 17:38:09] Swedishnut : 475 soon though? this week?
[2015-12-15 17:38:14] Neox007 : <>
[2015-12-15 17:39:16] hellyeahent : some strong resistance showed up, maybe we need little more time
[2015-12-15 17:41:03] j8 : this range has been dumped hard twice recently so the resistance is understandable. this $50 range that is
[2015-12-15 17:42:54] Swedishnut : true but with the continue of yuan depreciation and the dollar pressure too is btc not a perfect place for "value in Fiat" to rise?
[2015-12-15 17:44:41] hellyeahent : they will buy CHF insead od BTC :)
[2015-12-15 17:44:54] j8 : isn't the dollar pressure the other way?
[2015-12-15 17:45:34] hellyeahent : they will sell the CHF then : p
[2015-12-15 17:46:40] Swedishnut : When I was visiting CO I talked to some folks in a dispensary for Cannabis and they have little choice but to keep their cash in a private prison cell since the FDIC insured banks will not allow deposit of what they still consider illegal funds. BTC would be much safer I ended up explaining
[2015-12-15 17:48:06] sleger : because they can smoke good old bills, but harder to smoke btc?
[2015-12-15 17:48:56] hellyeahent : double retest od 458-459, but more sell offers in the way this time
[2015-12-15 17:49:35] j8 : they would probably want to hedge the btc though, which also comes with risk
[2015-12-15 17:49:37] Swedishnut : they basically have to do everything in cash or pure asset trade barter thing. all must pay tax if it Cannabis and the tax is 15% Extra whatever retail price
[2015-12-15 17:50:12] Swedishnut : well if they spent 15% of their cash in the prison that should be a few extra million I guess
[2015-12-15 17:51:29] Swedishnut : Colorado raised 140+ million in extra tax money from the dispensaries last year and the industry has only been growing and drawing more residents and tourists
[2015-12-15 17:53:08] MrJ1m : 100M net sale in august
[2015-12-15 17:58:12] cataquil : someone told me about potcoin a few weeks ago
[2015-12-15 17:58:36] cataquil : I don't smoke, but know someone terminally ill who says it helps them
[2015-12-15 18:02:09] MrJ1m : most alts are scam, no matter what anyone says. my opinion anyway. i remember the sweet rise off Cannabiscoin, from 1ksat to 14k
[2015-12-15 18:02:12] MrJ1m : good ol times
[2015-12-15 18:02:51] HowDoge : maxcoin <3
[2015-12-15 18:03:04] cataquil : yeah that has been my reckoning as well, and the days of getting in early on an easy coin to mine then selling perhaps is over too.
[2015-12-15 18:04:29] habibi : litecoin/dogecoin/maxcoin/blackcoin/asiacoin/ and many many others coins got pretty impressed pump
[2015-12-15 18:05:22] habibi : btw asiacoin :D hidden premine with 10000% of official total supply or sth like that :D
[2015-12-15 18:19:01] TschavaTschigger : "asiacoin" :D why didn't they just call it scamcoin
[2015-12-15 18:19:18] habibi : people would buy it still :D but too obvious a bit :p
[2015-12-15 18:21:18] habibi : i forgot the name, there was interesing scam.. guy painted a new look of wallet, he made ipo on his own, without 3rd party escrow
[2015-12-15 18:22:02] habibi : 120k usd or sth :D and its gone, he was laughing at btctalk at people ;p
[2015-12-15 18:33:43] hellyeahent : sick
[2015-12-15 18:35:43] TschavaTschigger : ~15k volume last hour :(
[2015-12-15 18:44:17] habibi : BitMEX_Sam: if its not a secret, from where comes majority of ur users? us/europe or maybe china?
[2015-12-15 18:44:37] BitMEX_Sam : Mostly europe, SE Asia, some in South America
[2015-12-15 18:45:05] habibi : ah us is banned, forgot, we need more chinese money here imo :p
[2015-12-15 18:55:30] TschavaTschigger : let's get the volume war started guys... so wally+sam get some bonus payments for christmas
[2015-12-15 18:57:45] hellyeahent : only 150k opened onracs, who would buy 50 or 100k offers ? Noone :[
[2015-12-15 18:58:30] habibi : settlement would :)
[2015-12-15 19:03:31] hellyeahent : 1,5% fee total :P
[2015-12-15 19:04:25] habibi : be a taker when u making ur position
[2015-12-15 19:04:35] habibi : then only 0.025%
[2015-12-15 19:05:04] habibi : and no, not 1.5% ;p that would be killing
[2015-12-15 19:12:40] habibi : margin fee call
[2015-12-15 19:12:41] habibi : lel
[2015-12-15 20:31:19] cekseh : Has sam said anything about adding OCO?
[2015-12-15 20:31:35] justinlooking : WIP
[2015-12-15 20:31:42] justinlooking : i think
[2015-12-15 21:08:41] wurstgelee : up? :)
[2015-12-15 21:11:07] wurstgelee : mebbe :)
[2015-12-15 21:25:00] wurstgelee : finally.....coinbase down to 20% index influence
[2015-12-15 21:25:18] wurstgelee : order restored
[2015-12-15 21:25:20] wurstgelee : ;)
[2015-12-15 21:25:36] habibi : still way too high :p
[2015-12-15 21:25:54] wurstgelee : yes, but finex dominating the index again
[2015-12-15 21:25:57] wurstgelee : i like that more
[2015-12-15 21:30:18] hellyeahent : where can u check it ?
[2015-12-15 21:30:40] wurstgelee : https://tradeblock.com/markets/index/
[2015-12-15 21:46:18] TschavaTschigger : BitMEX_Sam: hey, have you seen https://tradewave.net/? might be interesting for you to knock on their doors
[2015-12-15 21:48:40] rapidtrades : coinbase at 57% with a volume of 10k
[2015-12-15 21:48:58] rapidtrades : okc at 7% with 28k...makes sense i guess
[2015-12-15 21:49:19] rapidtrades : finex at 26% with 38k
[2015-12-15 21:49:28] rapidtrades : LOL@index
[2015-12-15 21:51:02] wurstgelee : u dont understand avererages.
[2015-12-15 21:52:13] wurstgelee : ofc 24h weighting average is delayed behind 24h volume average
[2015-12-15 21:52:35] wurstgelee : current weight for coinbase is ~20%
[2015-12-15 21:52:37] sleger : wurstgelee: you dont understand what he wrote
[2015-12-15 21:52:42] sleger : He said he is just guessing
[2015-12-15 21:52:58] wurstgelee : lol 8)
[2015-12-15 21:53:19] wurstgelee : oh fomo
[2015-12-15 21:54:44] justinlooking : eyes on a weekly breakout
[2015-12-15 21:55:02] REKT : Liquidated short on XBT7D: Buy 8000 @ 472.16
[2015-12-15 21:55:18] justinlooking : hmm guess ismaybe gonna breakout everywhere
[2015-12-15 21:55:32] hellyeahent : where is this 472.16 buy ???
[2015-12-15 21:55:37] BitMEX_Sam : TschavaTschigger: Nice link. Like with Coinigy, integrating futures into a spot trading site is tough
[2015-12-15 21:55:38] TschavaTschigger : think we are heading to goblinmoon today
[2015-12-15 21:55:40] BitMEX_Sam : They have to be ready for it
[2015-12-15 21:56:20] wurstgelee : lol back to 3060 immediately? :P
[2015-12-15 21:56:26] hellyeahent : 22:55 - REKT: Liquidated short on XBT7D: Buy 8000 @ 472.16 No such an order (???)
[2015-12-15 21:56:45] habibi : hellyeahent: its all the liquidations
[2015-12-15 21:56:47] habibi : not only urs
[2015-12-15 21:57:12] hellyeahent : ok 7D i see
[2015-12-15 21:57:15] hellyeahent : sorry
[2015-12-15 21:57:18] wurstgelee : hellyeahent: yep
[2015-12-15 21:58:02] TschavaTschigger : BitMEX_Sam: cool thing is that they have a browser python ide for advanced strategies. dunno if coinigy has that.
[2015-12-15 21:58:12] BitMEX_Sam : No, they don't - that's pretty nice
[2015-12-15 21:58:36] hellyeahent : 472/3120 is my bet, yours ?
[2015-12-15 22:00:02] TschavaTschigger : can't imagine this can be worth it economically speaking. not an expert but this seems like a lot of coding effort.
[2015-12-15 22:00:51] justinlooking : maybe they don't only make money from subs - dun dun dun
[2015-12-15 22:01:54] justinlooking : not accusing or anything like it, but the opportunity for front running is obscene
[2015-12-15 22:02:16] TschavaTschigger : exactly. I would never implement a trading strategy into a closed source 3rd party tool.
[2015-12-15 22:02:30] wurstgelee : that.
[2015-12-15 22:07:51] habibi : BitMEX_Sam: could u add tick box to automatic clearing canceled orders?
[2015-12-15 22:08:05] BitMEX_Sam : They clear after 60 seconds, do you not want them to?
[2015-12-15 22:08:10] BitMEX_Sam : Otherwise you can click Clear
[2015-12-15 22:08:33] habibi : yep, would prefer they just won't appeared anymore if i cleared them
[2015-12-15 22:08:50] BitMEX_Sam : Ah, as in you want them to just disappear immediately, without clicking Clear.
[2015-12-15 22:08:58] sleger : they dont appear if you click clear
[2015-12-15 22:09:01] habibi : yea, thats right
[2015-12-15 22:09:02] wurstgelee : what? cancewled orders clear?
[2015-12-15 22:09:09] wurstgelee : in order history?
[2015-12-15 22:09:14] habibi : @active orders
[2015-12-15 22:09:19] wurstgelee : ah ok =)
[2015-12-15 22:12:25] rapidtrades : seconded....I would prefer canceled orders o be cleared right away
[2015-12-15 22:13:13] habibi : for u it would good to group 1 contracts order as one :P
[2015-12-15 22:38:12] wurstgelee : thats futures dildo
[2015-12-15 22:38:16] wurstgelee : *-s
[2015-12-15 22:38:19] wurstgelee : okc :)
[2015-12-15 22:41:34] TschavaTschigger : well i am gone 40 minutes.. expect some crazy movement
[2015-12-15 22:42:03] justinlooking : roger that
[2015-12-15 22:42:06] wurstgelee : very well possible
[2015-12-15 22:43:09] irbbqu : like how we move down when things go up lately
[2015-12-15 22:43:56] wurstgelee : haha, yes
[2015-12-15 22:44:05] wurstgelee : i dont get that either
[2015-12-15 22:44:40] wurstgelee : both china spot and futures are going up, yet we go down
[2015-12-15 22:44:51] wurstgelee : fear of mad dumps i guess ;)
[2015-12-15 22:45:21] irbbqu : Hehe, no idea lol.
[2015-12-15 22:45:42] wurstgelee : some ppl still have PSD from last friday i guess
[2015-12-15 22:45:47] irbbqu : :D
[2015-12-15 22:46:40] wurstgelee : we had $7 premium on sideways, now $5 on upwards movement
[2015-12-15 22:47:20] irbbqu : Think he heard us lol
[2015-12-15 22:47:24] wurstgelee : yep =)
[2015-12-15 22:47:27] irbbqu : He mad.
[2015-12-15 22:47:35] irbbqu : Mr J you there?
[2015-12-15 22:47:39] wurstgelee : $4 premium
[2015-12-15 22:47:41] wurstgelee : lol
[2015-12-15 22:48:11] j8 : still too high
[2015-12-15 22:48:32] wurstgelee : we will probably have 0 when we hit 3100 ;)
[2015-12-15 22:48:46] irbbqu : Might be, but the way to do it like this is retarded.
[2015-12-15 22:48:51] habibi : nah
[2015-12-15 22:48:52] habibi : negative
[2015-12-15 22:49:26] wurstgelee : =)
[2015-12-15 22:50:03] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 200 @ 468.27
[2015-12-15 22:50:03] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 20 @ 467.94
[2015-12-15 22:50:45] wurstgelee : ouch, this might hurt
[2015-12-15 22:52:25] hellyeahent : not over yet :)
[2015-12-15 22:52:32] wurstgelee : maybe, maybe not
[2015-12-15 22:52:47] jesperf : it's fun to observe when you don't have any positions
[2015-12-15 22:53:29] hellyeahent : 2nd wave soon
[2015-12-15 22:53:38] hellyeahent : target 3100 CNY
[2015-12-15 22:53:46] cataquil : nice mmvol
[2015-12-15 22:53:55] wurstgelee : yep
[2015-12-15 22:54:50] wurstgelee : tfw when you accidentally longed 150% of what u wanted and realize that when u want to close the winner :)
[2015-12-15 22:55:14] cataquil : poow
[2015-12-15 22:55:38] wurstgelee : 24H Turnover 15,455.9197 XBT
[2015-12-15 22:55:45] wurstgelee : we are 1.5 coinbase's
[2015-12-15 22:55:47] wurstgelee : :p
[2015-12-15 22:56:07] wurstgelee : and almost bitstamp
[2015-12-15 22:57:17] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah, coinbase yesterday was an enormous outlier
[2015-12-15 22:57:27] BitMEX_Sam : Very strange to say the least.
[2015-12-15 22:59:04] wurstgelee : i still wonder wtf happened there
[2015-12-15 23:07:01] wurstgelee : i would expect a lot more liquidations currently
[2015-12-15 23:08:02] hellyeahent : ppl add margin I suppose
[2015-12-15 23:10:51] j8 : 100x seems like a novelty so someone with 0.1 btc can have fun
[2015-12-15 23:11:49] j8 : at least in this kind of volatility
[2015-12-15 23:18:52] Rasign : Short or long ? That the question...
[2015-12-15 23:19:05] hellyeahent : quick long :)
[2015-12-15 23:19:21] wurstgelee : nothing, watching ;)
[2015-12-15 23:20:12] Rasign : Thx guys ^^
[2015-12-15 23:42:06] micmix : Rasign: I wouldn't enter any big positions until Wednesday 2pm EST. Fed decision coming, market shocks possible
[2015-12-15 23:54:15] wurstgelee : well, thats well after xbt24h settlement
[2015-12-15 23:54:48] wurstgelee : 7pm utc
[2015-12-15 23:55:03] wurstgelee : more than enough time to play until then
[2015-12-15 23:58:01] MrJ1m : well
[2015-12-15 23:58:03] MrJ1m : 3100
[2015-12-15 23:58:06] MrJ1m : done
[2015-12-15 23:58:27] wurstgelee : good job
[2015-12-15 23:58:43] hellyeahent : not yet :)
[2015-12-15 23:58:58] wurstgelee : huobi did
[2015-12-15 23:59:06] wurstgelee : shortly ;)
[2015-12-16 00:02:58] MrJ1m : i call this foreplaying
[2015-12-16 00:03:00] MrJ1m : lol
[2015-12-16 00:03:21] wurstgelee : lol
[2015-12-16 00:10:50] wurstgelee : such hard work piercing 3100, btc needs to rest. lower. oO
[2015-12-16 00:11:15] MrJ1m : ye probably, but this dance feels like deja vu
[2015-12-16 00:11:23] wurstgelee : it does
[2015-12-16 00:11:25] wurstgelee : =)
[2015-12-16 00:11:36] hellyeahent : it was expected, round levels are always hard to get
[2015-12-16 00:11:39] MrJ1m : and its early good in china, fed day
[2015-12-16 00:12:35] MrJ1m : but i admit past 3100 is scary territory :)
[2015-12-16 00:12:59] wurstgelee : triggering old war memories, severe PSD
[2015-12-16 00:13:52] MrJ1m : lol
[2015-12-16 00:14:59] Rasign : Go short non?
[2015-12-16 00:15:11] Rasign : Now?
[2015-12-16 00:15:52] MrJ1m : my fingers wont let me
[2015-12-16 00:15:55] justinlooking : nor mine
[2015-12-16 00:17:17] wurstgelee : nope.
[2015-12-16 00:17:31] wurstgelee : not suicidal
[2015-12-16 00:18:22] wurstgelee : i have to admit i was tempted though
[2015-12-16 00:18:33] wurstgelee : i should have done it :p
[2015-12-16 00:18:33] irbbqu : Hold bear whale
[2015-12-16 00:18:34] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 500 @ 464.32
[2015-12-16 00:18:34] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 1000 @ 463.69
[2015-12-16 00:18:34] irbbqu : :D
[2015-12-16 00:18:34] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 186 @ 464.32
[2015-12-16 00:18:34] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 171 @ 466.24
[2015-12-16 00:18:34] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 4360 @ 464.22
[2015-12-16 00:18:34] REKT : Blood on the streets
[2015-12-16 00:18:34] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 250 @ 464.55
[2015-12-16 00:18:34] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 200 @ 464.13
[2015-12-16 00:18:34] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 1000 @ 465.27
[2015-12-16 00:18:45] MrJ1m : lol
[2015-12-16 00:18:46] wurstgelee : WTF?
[2015-12-16 00:18:48] MrJ1m : daf
[2015-12-16 00:18:50] wurstgelee : rofl
[2015-12-16 00:18:57] MrJ1m : almost triggered
[2015-12-16 00:19:00] wurstgelee : that was cruel
[2015-12-16 00:19:01] MrJ1m : wtf
[2015-12-16 00:19:02] hellyeahent : hehehe gopt some cheap coins ^_^
[2015-12-16 00:19:07] Tetsuo : bye bye bulls
[2015-12-16 00:19:30] wurstgelee : not in a position anyways...
[2015-12-16 00:19:53] wurstgelee : i dont see severe dumping yet
[2015-12-16 00:20:00] wurstgelee : yet! ;)
[2015-12-16 00:20:35] MrJ1m : there is none
[2015-12-16 00:20:43] habibi : 458
[2015-12-16 00:20:43] MrJ1m : funny
[2015-12-16 00:20:44] habibi : rly?
[2015-12-16 00:20:45] habibi : :D
[2015-12-16 00:20:46] wurstgelee : lol, we really were sub 460
[2015-12-16 00:20:53] Tetsuo : XBT24H 505 463.60 505 457.99 2.3411 XBT Limit Filled 2015-12-16 01:18:38 Thx, for your moneez
[2015-12-16 00:20:54] wurstgelee : i thought of a fata morgana
[2015-12-16 00:20:59] wurstgelee : wtf
[2015-12-16 00:21:07] hellyeahent : damn I just got coins at 462
[2015-12-16 00:21:07] wurstgelee : who dumped it to 458 ffs?
[2015-12-16 00:21:12] wurstgelee : show yourself :)
[2015-12-16 00:21:12] MrJ1m : ye wtf
[2015-12-16 00:21:21] j8 : that looked like a cascade, no?
[2015-12-16 00:21:27] wurstgelee : a little bit
[2015-12-16 00:21:31] MrJ1m : almost imediate luiquidation at x100
[2015-12-16 00:21:36] Tetsuo : BT24H 505 463.60 505 457.99(Fill price) :-)
[2015-12-16 00:21:51] MrJ1m : makes no sense but ok
[2015-12-16 00:21:53] wurstgelee : Tetsuo: free money ;)
[2015-12-16 00:21:54] hellyeahent : ill put some buy wall at 458
[2015-12-16 00:21:56] MrJ1m : thanks for a dip
[2015-12-16 00:22:17] wurstgelee : that was no dip, that was fuckery
[2015-12-16 00:22:17] sleger : just bought ~200btc on the 24h @ 464
[2015-12-16 00:22:17] Tetsuo : wurstgelee: I like the smell of fresh bullmeat in the morning
[2015-12-16 00:22:34] wurstgelee : sleger: ;)
[2015-12-16 00:22:48] MrJ1m : wo
[2015-12-16 00:22:53] wurstgelee : noooow we go down a little
[2015-12-16 00:22:54] wurstgelee : ;)
[2015-12-16 00:22:55] Rasign : Short ? Ahaha
[2015-12-16 00:23:07] wurstgelee : maybe some more oO
[2015-12-16 00:23:10] Rasign : Bitmex follow m'y call
[2015-12-16 00:23:11] MrJ1m : u called it right jéjé
[2015-12-16 00:23:14] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 260 @ 463.20
[2015-12-16 00:24:33] wurstgelee : weird shit
[2015-12-16 00:24:48] wurstgelee : not touching this currently
[2015-12-16 00:25:46] hellyeahent : jsut added 5 btv margin to be safe :D
[2015-12-16 00:26:16] micmix : my bot is trolling better than me: REKT: Blood on the streets
[2015-12-16 00:26:55] wurstgelee : micmix: did your bot go haywire too?
[2015-12-16 00:27:02] wurstgelee : down to 458?
[2015-12-16 00:27:12] micmix : nope, all liquidations were real
[2015-12-16 00:27:33] wurstgelee : ofc they were real
[2015-12-16 00:27:44] wurstgelee : you have a trading bot, right?
[2015-12-16 00:27:57] micmix : if you are talking about my MM, it closed short on that down spike
[2015-12-16 00:28:07] j8 : and there were probably more that were immediately filled, that the chat bot misses
[2015-12-16 00:28:09] wurstgelee : clever bot ;)
[2015-12-16 00:28:37] micmix : j8: most likely
[2015-12-16 00:28:57] wurstgelee : there were probably a lot ....
[2015-12-16 00:29:04] wurstgelee : down 6-7$ in a sec
[2015-12-16 00:29:06] j8 : i would like to see a slow motion replay of that...
[2015-12-16 00:29:11] wurstgelee : me 2
[2015-12-16 00:29:23] j8 : how low did the mark price go?
[2015-12-16 00:29:25] TschavaTschigger : re
[2015-12-16 00:29:32] wurstgelee : dunno
[2015-12-16 00:29:36] wurstgelee : too fast
[2015-12-16 00:31:03] j8 : i think with the weighted mid price thing, the system does have the potential to cascade.
[2015-12-16 00:31:50] hellyeahent : should fair price prevent us from such dumps ?
[2015-12-16 00:31:53] wurstgelee : ii guess they prevented that somehow with the way they handle liquidations
[2015-12-16 00:32:23] Rasign : Do you think mega rekt is coming ?
[2015-12-16 00:32:58] sleger : As always, thank you for your $$$
[2015-12-16 00:33:05] j8 : the basis adjusts to the orderbook, liquidations lower the orderbook. it only happens adjusts every 30 secs though
[2015-12-16 00:33:16] Tetsuo : Rasign: Yes :-) Time to be greedy, nasty bear fellows!
[2015-12-16 00:33:17] wurstgelee : sleger: none of my $$$ taken, youre welcome
[2015-12-16 00:33:24] wurstgelee : =)
[2015-12-16 00:33:32] sleger : wurstgelee: next time ;)
[2015-12-16 00:33:37] wurstgelee : hehe
[2015-12-16 00:33:58] Rasign : Tetsuo: :)
[2015-12-16 00:35:17] wurstgelee : not for the next hours, time crash
[2015-12-16 00:35:22] wurstgelee : good night trollbox
[2015-12-16 00:35:29] justinlooking : nn
[2015-12-16 00:38:21] hellyeahent : gn
[2015-12-16 00:41:56] Rasign : Rekt :2nd round
[2015-12-16 00:45:13] Tetsuo : The big bear rapist - The 2nd coming Go for it!
[2015-12-16 00:45:56] Tetsuo : Huge bearish divergence on 4h RSI
[2015-12-16 00:47:35] Rasign : Mega râpé incoming
[2015-12-16 00:48:42] Rasign : Or not...
[2015-12-16 00:49:27] justinlooking : off to bed, see you all at 3200 in a few hours
[2015-12-16 00:49:53] TschavaTschigger : me too... byebye
[2015-12-16 00:50:13] laisee : ttfn
[2015-12-16 00:57:34] Tetsuo : chinese bull scammer turned the bull rape into a bear trap
[2015-12-16 00:58:00] irbbqu : Yes, 4h RSI div scammed.
[2015-12-16 00:58:13] Rasign : @Tetsuo what you m'en ?