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[2015-12-14 15:25:24] habibi : coinbase should be delisted from tradeblock
[2015-12-14 15:25:25] habibi : lel :D
[2015-12-14 15:25:52] podizzle3k : i dont see the problem as long as the trades are legitimate
[2015-12-14 15:26:51] habibi : 10 dollars spikes
[2015-12-14 15:26:57] habibi : in minute candles
[2015-12-14 15:26:58] habibi : over and over
[2015-12-14 15:26:59] habibi : yea
[2015-12-14 15:27:37] podizzle3k : haha not quite $10
[2015-12-14 15:27:39] podizzle3k : more like $1
[2015-12-14 15:27:55] podizzle3k : oh wow now it is doing $10
[2015-12-14 15:27:59] podizzle3k : im about to get in on this
[2015-12-14 15:28:44] sleger : coinbase are not nice, they want commissions ok but they could shut down the client that is obviously not aware of whats going on
[2015-12-14 15:29:06] podizzle3k : nah
[2015-12-14 15:29:14] podizzle3k : reverse the trades too why not
[2015-12-14 15:29:19] podizzle3k : i say let it rock
[2015-12-14 15:29:23] podizzle3k : give them a call maybe
[2015-12-14 15:29:44] habibi : podizzle3k: yea sorry, 9.24$ not 10
[2015-12-14 15:30:11] habibi : people already withdrawing profits from coinbase so fuck them ;p
[2015-12-14 15:30:54] sleger : podizzle3k: how many conf they require to deposit btc ?
[2015-12-14 15:31:04] podizzle3k : no clue
[2015-12-14 15:34:45] sleger : oh well i never finished the ID process there, so I just hope rapidtrades will bring his new bot over here soon
[2015-12-14 15:35:23] laisee : looks awesome, bulldozer on a fixed schedule.
[2015-12-14 15:35:58] podizzle3k : up to 21.73% weight
[2015-12-14 15:37:45] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 615 @ 447.65
[2015-12-14 15:45:27] j8 : podizzle3k: that's 24 hour avg, it's up to 80%, check the hourly chart
[2015-12-14 15:45:58] podizzle3k : yeah but the 24hr futures here uses 24hr avg right?
[2015-12-14 15:46:13] podizzle3k : by tomorrow it will be close to 80% then
[2015-12-14 15:46:46] laisee : seems like coinbase devs finally got the willy bot working
[2015-12-14 15:47:06] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 6 @ 446.24
[2015-12-14 15:47:06] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 3574 @ 446.59
[2015-12-14 15:47:26] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 4 @ 445.72
[2015-12-14 15:47:26] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 497 @ 445.63
[2015-12-14 15:47:26] REKT : HODL HODL HODL
[2015-12-14 15:47:40] SnackyCoins : lol
[2015-12-14 15:47:43] SnackyCoins : hoobs hoobin
[2015-12-14 15:47:51] SnackyCoins : cheap coinz guyze
[2015-12-14 15:47:51] podizzle3k : lol rektbot
[2015-12-14 15:51:59] TschavaTschigger : https://blog.coinbase.com/2015/12/08/coinbase-exchange-introduces-volume-based-rebates/
[2015-12-14 15:53:39] BitMEX_Sam : Well, we know who's getting 0.1%
[2015-12-14 15:58:01] TschavaTschigger : BitMEX_Sam: btw, @auth via msg... typical 3am brainfart, passed nonce as String to my jsonwrapper ;)
[2015-12-14 15:58:15] BitMEX_Sam : Ah - thanks for the update
[2015-12-14 16:03:40] laisee : @RektBitmex to see liquidations via twitter feed
[2015-12-14 16:05:10] podizzle3k : not much of a rebate if youre paying .1% on half a million $ of losing trades
[2015-12-14 16:05:22] podizzle3k : but im paying .1% instead of .25% !
[2015-12-14 16:05:29] laisee : !!
[2015-12-14 16:05:31] podizzle3k : btw looks like the coinbase bot party is over. bummer
[2015-12-14 16:05:42] BitMEX_Arthur : Someone fucked up hard
[2015-12-14 16:05:53] BitMEX_Arthur : Amazing it went on for so many hours
[2015-12-14 16:06:38] TschavaTschigger : maybe some bot takes fee structure into account when placing orders and the change fukked something up hard
[2015-12-14 16:07:48] BitMEX_Arthur : But then why would it be so aggressive
[2015-12-14 16:07:53] BitMEX_Arthur : someone was obviously trading across the spread
[2015-12-14 16:08:39] podizzle3k : a very very expensive mistake in bot logic
[2015-12-14 16:08:48] BitMEX_Sam : Whoa
[2015-12-14 16:08:54] BitMEX_Sam : Just saw about 40 executions hit cb
[2015-12-14 16:08:56] REKT : Liquidated short on XBT24H: Buy 2413 @ 448.32
[2015-12-14 16:09:03] BitMEX_Sam : Looks like the engine is constipated
[2015-12-14 16:09:07] podizzle3k : wow
[2015-12-14 16:09:14] podizzle3k : it spiked
[2015-12-14 16:10:25] laisee : maybe engine is 'confused' and bot is 'aggressive', but stupid'
[2015-12-14 16:12:48] podizzle3k : coinbase exchange trying out their new bots http://i.imgur.com/i5fEkjg.gifv
[2015-12-14 16:14:09] wurstgelee : BitMEX_Sam: btw, connection quality still "bad"
[2015-12-14 16:14:35] TschavaTschigger : I haven't had any disconnects anymore though
[2015-12-14 16:14:45] wurstgelee : no disconnects, yep
[2015-12-14 16:14:54] wurstgelee : oh, it just turned green
[2015-12-14 16:14:55] wurstgelee : nvm
[2015-12-14 16:14:56] wurstgelee : oO
[2015-12-14 16:18:20] habibi : podizzle3k: i would say rather this http://media1.onsugar.com/files/2013/06/17/777/n/1922283/4b335bba7661873b_make_it_rain.xxxlarge.gif
[2015-12-14 16:18:45] podizzle3k : haha yea
[2015-12-14 16:20:48] podizzle3k : it looks like that bot activity was altering the price on coinbase wallet site as well
[2015-12-14 16:20:54] podizzle3k : so maybe someone was trying to abuse that
[2015-12-14 16:21:10] wurstgelee : lol @ coinbase=tradeblock index now
[2015-12-14 16:21:12] wurstgelee : :/
[2015-12-14 16:21:24] BitMEX_Sam : Something very strange going on, I wouldn't say 100% that it was unintentional from the bot's perspective
[2015-12-14 16:21:31] BitMEX_Sam : Maybe we'll get a postmortem
[2015-12-14 16:21:34] podizzle3k : pump the wallet price with small order on the exchange then sell large amount on the wallet
[2015-12-14 16:21:37] podizzle3k : and vice versa
[2015-12-14 16:21:45] wurstgelee : >80% now...
[2015-12-14 16:22:11] podizzle3k : all that matters is 24hr weight
[2015-12-14 16:22:17] wurstgelee : yep, almost all
[2015-12-14 16:22:22] podizzle3k : its at 23 and will go down from here considering its over
[2015-12-14 16:22:29] BitMEX_Sam : Let me pull some live rates and see where they're at now
[2015-12-14 16:22:30] podizzle3k : probably back to around 15 by settlement
[2015-12-14 16:22:48] wurstgelee : 165,910 24 h volume
[2015-12-14 16:22:52] wurstgelee : sick
[2015-12-14 16:22:58] BitMEX_Sam : Insanity. That's about 20x where they should be
[2015-12-14 16:23:20] wurstgelee : that seriously fucks up the index
[2015-12-14 16:24:14] BitMEX_Sam : Live CB weighting is 79%
[2015-12-14 16:24:19] BitMEX_Sam : 15% finex
[2015-12-14 16:24:20] wurstgelee : imo they should do something about that....
[2015-12-14 16:24:34] BitMEX_Sam : Agreed, I don't think they anticipated weighting going wrong in the other direction
[2015-12-14 16:24:41] wurstgelee : manually deweight or whatever
[2015-12-14 16:24:44] BitMEX_Sam : Thankfully the price isn't an outlier right now
[2015-12-14 16:24:49] wurstgelee : yep
[2015-12-14 16:24:57] sleger : yeah exactly its at 445 so doesnt matter
[2015-12-14 16:25:00] BitMEX_Sam : Although it would start to deweight if it were
[2015-12-14 16:25:22] sleger : funny i said 2 hours ago that it would be better to just use fixed weighting of some exchanges like the other platforms do...
[2015-12-14 16:25:22] wurstgelee : depends how they're algortihm works.
[2015-12-14 16:25:37] sleger : wurstgelee: they're = they are
[2015-12-14 16:25:53] wurstgelee : if they include volume when determining what should be deweighted, everyone else would get deweighted when moving away from cb
[2015-12-14 16:25:55] podizzle3k : well if they can continue to do that volume all day every day they should be 80% of the weight
[2015-12-14 16:26:14] wurstgelee : sleger: yes i know ffs
[2015-12-14 16:26:16] wurstgelee : typo
[2015-12-14 16:26:19] wurstgelee : thanks for correcting me oO
[2015-12-14 16:27:04] podizzle3k : i think the issue is that volume is predicated upon the trading fees. 0% fees vs 5% fees and you will have massively different volume #s
[2015-12-14 16:28:05] laisee : vol s/be weighted for effective fees (all fees) per exchange
[2015-12-14 16:28:06] wurstgelee : probably a good idea to base weighting on fees
[2015-12-14 16:28:16] wurstgelee : less fess -> smaller weight
[2015-12-14 16:28:28] podizzle3k : coinbase #3 volume worldwide. maybe its coinbase exchange trading its own coins (no fees) so they can have that headline today
[2015-12-14 16:28:33] podizzle3k : good thinking wurst
[2015-12-14 16:28:39] BitMEX_Sam : Maybe an investor meeting? :p
[2015-12-14 16:28:55] BitMEX_Arthur : Andreseen wasn't happy
[2015-12-14 16:28:57] BitMEX_Arthur : Said PUMP IT
[2015-12-14 16:29:05] podizzle3k : pump the volume
[2015-12-14 16:29:24] podizzle3k : chinas making us look bad with their billion btc volumes
[2015-12-14 16:29:25] BitMEX_Arthur : You gotta PUMP IT UP!
[2015-12-14 16:29:27] wurstgelee : anyways, leaving work, going home
[2015-12-14 16:29:29] wurstgelee : bbl
[2015-12-14 16:29:53] habibi : buy bread pls
[2015-12-14 16:29:59] laisee : pump up the volume
[2015-12-14 16:30:12] BitMEX_Arthur : pump up the jam
[2015-12-14 16:30:54] podizzle3k : jock jams volume 2
[2015-12-14 16:31:36] podizzle3k : owner of that bot now crumpled into fetal position weeping
[2015-12-14 16:32:47] podizzle3k : test
[2015-12-14 16:33:09] podizzle3k : hey sam can you restart irc chatbot when you get a chance
[2015-12-14 16:33:30] haxmb : my chat isnt working
[2015-12-14 16:33:47] podizzle3k : haxmb its delayed. someone's bot is misbehaving and causing lag
[2015-12-14 16:34:06] podizzle3k : i guess
[2015-12-14 16:34:46] haxmb : ok
[2015-12-14 16:34:54] haxmb : BitMEX_Arthur: i have a question :)
[2015-12-14 16:35:17] haxmb : The .BXT index is the pure XBX as displayed on the tradeblock.com or is it a different weight
[2015-12-14 16:36:27] podizzle3k : haxmb did you read what it says when you hover over the grey number?
[2015-12-14 16:36:37] podizzle3k : kinda explains it
[2015-12-14 16:50:06] podizzle3k : to... the....
[2015-12-14 16:50:44] podizzle3k : mewwwwwwwwwwwwn ┗(°0°)┛
[2015-12-14 16:51:27] REKT : Liquidated short on XBT24H: Buy 1000 @ 451.24
[2015-12-14 16:56:01] podizzle3k : back to goblin town
[2015-12-14 16:56:23] j8 : to the meme!
[2015-12-14 17:09:05] podizzle3k : i want the shorts to be liquidated so bad that even the hottest water with the best detergent couldnt bring them back
[2015-12-14 17:09:49] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah I need to do some tweaking to the irc bot, it's not been robust lately
[2015-12-14 17:10:01] BitMEX_Sam : I believe there's been some connection failures on freenode's end
[2015-12-14 17:11:15] habibi : change node to kornbluth.freenode.net, best one imho when all others get dc
[2015-12-14 17:11:32] BitMEX_Sam : Just going to work some reconnection logic into it
[2015-12-14 17:11:38] BitMEX_Sam : Thanks for the node recommendation
[2015-12-14 17:17:40] sleger : BitMEX_Sam: you wrote the sample MM bot ?
[2015-12-14 17:25:33] BitMEX_Sam : Based on an old Gox bot but modified heavily
[2015-12-14 17:27:28] sleger : it is very well written, good safety/reconnect etc, excellent tool for wannabe algo traders, congrats
[2015-12-14 17:32:06] podizzle3k : hmm i like this slow gradual price rise
[2015-12-14 17:32:23] podizzle3k : probably be wiped out in 1 5m okcoin candle
[2015-12-14 17:33:25] wurstgelee : re
[2015-12-14 17:36:15] wurstgelee : sample MM bot?
[2015-12-14 18:04:47] BitMEX_Sam : wurstgelee: https://github.com/BitMEX/market-maker
[2015-12-14 18:06:06] wurstgelee : BitMEX_Sam: thanks! ;)
[2015-12-14 18:06:27] BitMEX_Sam : It's a platform, I wouldn't recommend using it wholesale but you get full REST and WebSocket data for free with it
[2015-12-14 18:06:49] BitMEX_Sam : So it's just up to you as a user to figure out your strategy and implement it, without having to worry about how to get the data you need, sign API requests, etc
[2015-12-14 18:07:39] wurstgelee : yep, thats what i figured. hence the "sample" in the name ;)
[2015-12-14 18:08:03] wurstgelee : im probably not using and anyway, maybe toying around with it a bit when i have some spare time and motivation ;)
[2015-12-14 18:08:08] wurstgelee : *and=it
[2015-12-14 18:08:18] BitMEX_Sam : Sure - it's good fun on testnet anyway with the basic strategy
[2015-12-14 18:08:35] BitMEX_Sam : We use it for load testing sometimes, blanket the market with the mm then we use another bot to just start eating up orders
[2015-12-14 18:09:59] wurstgelee : makes sense :)
[2015-12-14 18:10:40] BitMEX_Sam : The testnet market is so naive, you could probably make some good T&btc; on it
[2015-12-14 18:11:30] wurstgelee : yes, some guy who didnt trade margin ever before made 30-40 btc easily in 2 or 3 days
[2015-12-14 18:12:21] wurstgelee : back when it went parabolic up to 500 tho, so probably extra easy
[2015-12-14 18:15:14] sleger : If I were an ass I would argue that the same is true for the live market, so since I am an ass I can say it : live market is so naive :)
[2015-12-14 18:15:27] BitMEX_Sam : I believe it
[2015-12-14 18:15:36] sleger : that I am an ass ?
[2015-12-14 18:15:39] sleger : :p
[2015-12-14 18:15:39] BitMEX_Sam : Ahahaha
[2015-12-14 18:15:42] wurstgelee : both ;)
[2015-12-14 18:15:43] BitMEX_Sam : No comment.
[2015-12-14 18:15:52] wurstgelee : well, bots are naive, so is the market ;)
[2015-12-14 18:18:40] TschavaTschigger : if even some random noob-coder like me can make +pnl on live, then yes... it's naive in fact
[2015-12-14 18:42:53] TschavaTschigger : I guess even rapid can make a profitable bot here
[2015-12-14 18:47:18] sleger : LOL
[2015-12-14 18:55:18] TschavaTschigger : just encouraging him to bot on bitmex so we get free bitcoi.... uhm i mean satoshis
[2015-12-14 18:59:21] habibi : i think bitmex pays more for servers work by rapid than they gets from him in comision
[2015-12-14 18:59:46] wurstgelee : especially when he starts hammering the orderbooks with 1 contract orders
[2015-12-14 19:00:18] TschavaTschigger : well, we don't even know if he is actually trading here or just spamming in the trollbox
[2015-12-14 19:00:48] habibi : even more then
[2015-12-14 19:00:55] habibi : no commision and still some work to do by servers
[2015-12-14 19:00:56] wurstgelee : only costs then :)
[2015-12-14 19:01:00] wurstgelee : yep
[2015-12-14 19:01:25] habibi : BitMEX_Sam: bankruptcy inc?
[2015-12-14 19:01:52] habibi : i think that was the main reason for eventually banning him from chat
[2015-12-14 19:01:59] BitMEX_Sam : We didn't actually ban him.
[2015-12-14 19:02:12] habibi : yep but it was close to
[2015-12-14 19:02:27] BitMEX_Sam : I was going to, for his language, but had a call come in right before I did, and he disappeared right then for days
[2015-12-14 19:02:34] BitMEX_Sam : So I didn't get around to it, tbh
[2015-12-14 19:03:01] habibi : next time he ll come with friends.. overloaded servers and still no commision :p
[2015-12-14 19:03:44] BitMEX_Sam : Servers are doing fine - no issues, we fixed what was causing slow conns yesterday
[2015-12-14 19:05:05] habibi : no offence, rapid jokes here
[2015-12-14 19:05:19] habibi : almost as good as rapid trades
[2015-12-14 19:09:07] podizzle3k : here i'll make up for what we're missing from rapidtrades
[2015-12-14 19:09:20] podizzle3k : $4 premium wow keep buying b1tches!
[2015-12-14 19:09:27] podizzle3k : more money for me when the dump comes
[2015-12-14 19:10:07] podizzle3k : now we just need to find floopfloop
[2015-12-14 19:10:24] justinlooking : *flips you off
[2015-12-14 19:10:31] podizzle3k : haha i forgot about that
[2015-12-14 19:10:38] wurstgelee : what can possibly go wrong?
[2015-12-14 19:10:45] wurstgelee : *was missing :)
[2015-12-14 19:19:25] justinlooking : i miss him
[2015-12-14 19:19:52] justinlooking : my fav quote is when he told someone they were calling the cattle black
[2015-12-14 19:30:17] habibi : btw micmix is away for few days
[2015-12-14 19:42:08] sleger : justinlooking: that was me he told that too
[2015-12-14 19:42:43] justinlooking : bless his little cotton socks
[2015-12-14 19:42:46] sleger : I like micmix but his bot underdelivers
[2015-12-14 19:43:37] podizzle3k : he offers the source?
[2015-12-14 19:45:09] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 5210 @ 449.10
[2015-12-14 19:46:21] BitMEX_Sam : We'll be adding live liquidation feeds soon
[2015-12-14 19:46:39] BitMEX_Sam : As well as proper history
[2015-12-14 19:46:42] podizzle3k : what was that rekt twitter feed?
[2015-12-14 19:46:46] podizzle3k : anyone remember
[2015-12-14 19:46:58] BitMEX_Sam : https://twitter.com/RektBitmex
[2015-12-14 19:47:00] podizzle3k : thx
[2015-12-14 19:47:04] BitMEX_Sam : There's also Whalecalls for other exchanges
[2015-12-14 19:49:20] podizzle3k : yeah i follow whalecalls already
[2015-12-14 19:49:57] podizzle3k : hmm new star trek isnt by jj abrams. probably wont be good https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRVD32rnzOw
[2015-12-14 19:50:49] wurstgelee : jj abrams sold it, he's done with sw
[2015-12-14 19:51:03] wurstgelee : ah no
[2015-12-14 19:51:05] wurstgelee : forget that
[2015-12-14 19:51:07] wurstgelee : lol
[2015-12-14 19:51:12] wurstgelee : geroge lucas...
[2015-12-14 19:51:16] wurstgelee : george ffs
[2015-12-14 19:52:44] podizzle3k : ease off the mojitos
[2015-12-14 19:53:14] podizzle3k : yeah that trailer looks horrible
[2015-12-14 20:00:30] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 930 @ 447.91
[2015-12-14 20:06:37] podizzle3k : coinbase is not doing the mm bots any favors selling so cheap
[2015-12-14 20:07:11] podizzle3k : i think the coinbase bot guy is cashing out
[2015-12-14 20:07:14] podizzle3k : hes had it
[2015-12-14 20:13:10] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 386 @ 446.46
[2015-12-14 20:16:40] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 10000 @ 446.22
[2015-12-14 20:22:00] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT7D: Sell 7500 @ 452.94
[2015-12-14 20:22:13] gouda : everyone is #rekt
[2015-12-14 20:22:55] donkey : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 10000 @ 446.22 that was me 8-)
[2015-12-14 20:23:34] habibi : use cross for such big positions
[2015-12-14 20:23:39] habibi : i mean.. use cross always
[2015-12-14 20:30:14] donkey : nah it was just a gamble with some change
[2015-12-14 20:31:44] justinlooking : punting hard
[2015-12-14 20:35:25] cataquil : thanks for the liquidity
[2015-12-14 20:41:40] gouda : nom nom nom nom
[2015-12-14 21:03:31] REKT : Liquidated short on XBT24H: Buy 500 @ 448.89
[2015-12-14 21:04:02] cataquil : got that sell out
[2015-12-14 21:04:55] cataquil : whats the hardest part of patience, waiting for a dip.
[2015-12-14 21:06:19] justinlooking : moon ere'time
[2015-12-14 21:06:32] wurstgelee : =)
[2015-12-14 21:07:36] jesperf : wat is happening, every time I look away for 10 minutes something significant happens
[2015-12-14 21:08:35] TschavaTschigger : same here. watching 3 hours and nothing is going on. 10 minutes gone and boom. every. single. time.
[2015-12-14 21:19:25] cataquil : thats how btc market is. in other markets there are fast sudden moves, but you always here the reason for em...whether a fat finger or other
[2015-12-14 21:52:21] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 971 @ 448.74
[2015-12-14 21:53:41] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 4567 @ 448.27
[2015-12-14 22:09:45] sleger : TschavaTschigger: please let us know when you walk away
[2015-12-14 22:11:04] sleger : Question : on Friday, do we have a new weekly contract ?
[2015-12-14 22:11:23] wurstgelee : sleger: y shouldnt we?
[2015-12-14 22:11:43] sleger : wurstgelee: what do you think its maturity date would be ?
[2015-12-14 22:12:05] wurstgelee : 26th?
[2015-12-14 22:12:13] justinlooking : same as Z
[2015-12-14 22:12:14] wurstgelee : oh no
[2015-12-14 22:12:16] wurstgelee : 25th
[2015-12-14 22:12:21] j8 : in the past there's still been a weekly even though it has the same expiry
[2015-12-14 22:12:23] sleger : exactly so ...
[2015-12-14 22:12:30] sleger : j8: ok thanks
[2015-12-14 22:12:41] wurstgelee : there are also dailies ond weekly settlement...
[2015-12-14 22:12:47] sleger : pretty useless in my opinion
[2015-12-14 22:12:50] wurstgelee : y should it be different?
[2015-12-14 22:12:52] j8 : i wish they would combine in that case.
[2015-12-14 22:13:11] wurstgelee : different time weighting
[2015-12-14 22:13:19] sleger : yes of course that would make total sense, just create the new weekly on thursday (so a +8 days contract)
[2015-12-14 22:13:43] sleger : wurstgelee: "wurstgelee: different time weighting" yes but who cares. Leverage is also different
[2015-12-14 22:14:16] wurstgelee : yes..i dont get why settlement on same day for different contract types are a problem to even think about :)
[2015-12-14 22:14:22] wurstgelee : *is
[2015-12-14 22:14:34] j8 : weekly and longer all have the same time weighting. the only difference is lever
[2015-12-14 22:14:42] sleger : wurstgelee: liquidity split
[2015-12-14 22:14:56] justinlooking : 24h is only one with different time weighting
[2015-12-14 22:15:27] wurstgelee : we always have liquidity split
[2015-12-14 22:15:34] wurstgelee : not only on settlement days
[2015-12-14 22:15:57] sleger : yes but it makes sense to have 1day, 7 days, 1-3 months etc...
[2015-12-14 22:16:07] justinlooking : i wonder if we'll get a jan. i don't think we got a nov
[2015-12-14 22:16:15] sleger : but having 1 day, 1 week, 1 week, 3 months...
[2015-12-14 22:16:43] wurstgelee : i get your point, i dont see it as a problem though
[2015-12-14 22:17:02] sleger : if you combine, more liquidity
[2015-12-14 22:17:17] j8 : it's a problem for all the holders of `Z15` if the market disappears in the last week
[2015-12-14 22:17:18] wurstgelee : yes ofc, still no problem imo
[2015-12-14 22:18:09] wurstgelee : j8: thats not because of split liquidity imo but because settlement gets closer, therefore less speculation etc
[2015-12-14 22:18:15] wurstgelee : -> less liquidity
[2015-12-14 22:18:37] wurstgelee : same happens every day close to 12:00 utc
[2015-12-14 22:18:43] wurstgelee : hardly andy liquidity in the last hour
[2015-12-14 22:18:46] wurstgelee : any
[2015-12-14 22:18:50] sleger : whatever your opinion is, creating a brand new contract that has the same expiry as an existing one is a weird idea
[2015-12-14 22:19:13] wurstgelee : opinions are like assholes...everyone has them ;)
[2015-12-14 22:19:13] j8 : of course it's worse because of split liquidity. there's no reason for new people to trade `Z15` when there's a weekly with higher leverage
[2015-12-14 22:20:41] sleger : wurstgelee: i dont know if it s a good thing but someone already wants to share my asshole, yours is alone so far :p
[2015-12-14 22:21:04] wurstgelee : haha =)
[2015-12-14 22:21:10] wurstgelee : im fine with that
[2015-12-14 22:24:31] j8 : i think they had fixed contract symbols first, then they added relisting contracts, and it's a detail that sort of slipped through
[2015-12-14 22:25:32] wurstgelee : ask them if its on purpose or not. i guess it is :)
[2015-12-14 22:25:50] wurstgelee : purpose might be the wrong word, but i dont think it slipped through
[2015-12-14 22:26:04] j8 : the one justification i've heard is they have different leverage.
[2015-12-14 22:26:24] sleger : yes but i think the benefit is far less than the disadvantage
[2015-12-14 22:26:34] j8 : i agree
[2015-12-14 22:26:42] wurstgelee : and we are back to assholes ;)
[2015-12-14 22:27:35] justinlooking : what are you proposing slege?
[2015-12-14 22:27:56] justinlooking : don't list a weekly on Friday, just keep Z15?
[2015-12-14 22:28:57] wurstgelee : yes, if i didnt get him wrong
[2015-12-14 22:29:25] justinlooking : well shouldn't the 7d become a 24h at some point too then... it's admittedly a more conventional way of "doing" futures
[2015-12-14 22:29:45] wurstgelee : nope, different leverage, different settlement
[2015-12-14 22:30:13] justinlooking : yeh
[2015-12-14 22:33:14] sleger : justinlooking: 24h is a bit of a different animal due to extreme leverage, and 7d and 24h have decent liquidity, the other contracts not at all
[2015-12-14 22:35:09] j8 : it would be pretty ugly to not list the `7D` symbol, for charts etc. the other option is to have your `Z15` contracts become `7D`, which also seems like a big change in terms of accounting
[2015-12-14 22:36:00] sleger : j8: that is what 0kcoin does
[2015-12-14 22:38:04] j8 : yeah, that's one thing they did right.
[2015-12-14 22:38:08] justinlooking : sleger: that's where i think listing spreads as separate contracts with quoting and matching on implied prices (ala interest rates) would help a lot with liquidity in the further contracts
[2015-12-14 22:38:29] micmix : sleger : I like micmix but his bot underdelivers
[2015-12-14 22:38:53] micmix : not enough liquidations for you sleger? :-)
[2015-12-14 22:39:53] sleger : micmix: no the quoting bot, it went away ?
[2015-12-14 22:40:18] sleger : justinlooking: In theory I agree, however I think the liquidity would be very small and most people would not understand
[2015-12-14 22:40:54] micmix : no, it was here all the time. 95/91 ATM it's me
[2015-12-14 22:41:19] sleger : why not x10 already ? at least 1k contract no ?
[2015-12-14 22:41:56] micmix : didn't get permission yet, still in test mode :-(
[2015-12-14 22:42:55] sleger : tough crowd !
[2015-12-14 22:43:07] rapidtrades : micmix: hey how's it goin? want to get into bot coding...c++ or python?
[2015-12-14 22:43:23] justinlooking : LMAO
[2015-12-14 22:43:57] laisee : rapidtrades: > u coded b4?
[2015-12-14 22:44:09] sleger : justinlooking: dont know about LMAO language, did you mean VBA maybe ?
[2015-12-14 22:44:16] j8 : ah, good to have you back rapidtrades. do python
[2015-12-14 22:44:35] habibi : rapidtrades: best ones are written in php
[2015-12-14 22:45:35] sleger : Mine is written in powerpoint, it's a bit slow though
[2015-12-14 22:45:39] thebigmac : ding
[2015-12-14 22:45:39] gielbier : dong
[2015-12-14 22:45:39] uiop : dump it
[2015-12-14 22:45:39] thebigmac : pump it
[2015-12-14 22:45:39] podizzler3k_ : test
[2015-12-14 22:45:55] laisee : rapidtrades: > scratch is good start if u dont code yrt
[2015-12-14 22:46:36] wurstgelee : wtf, real crowded here now
[2015-12-14 22:46:54] wurstgelee : rapidtrades bringing the audience back
[2015-12-14 22:47:05] wurstgelee : did he call top already?
[2015-12-14 22:48:18] laisee : wurstgelee: > it's all about the cintent, and the fans.
[2015-12-14 22:48:40] wurstgelee : ;)
[2015-12-14 22:53:05] j8 : wtf anyone have issues cancelling orders right now?
[2015-12-14 22:54:26] wurstgelee : no open orderss i could cancel
[2015-12-14 22:54:27] wurstgelee : sec
[2015-12-14 22:54:49] wurstgelee : nope, works
[2015-12-14 22:56:09] haxmb : admin?
[2015-12-14 22:56:43] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah?
[2015-12-14 22:56:55] BitMEX_Sam : Oh wow. I see it. Hold on
[2015-12-14 22:57:19] j8 : Unhandled rejection b: Invalid value for argument 'orderID' of type 'string'. Received type was converted to object.
[2015-12-14 22:57:30] BitMEX_Sam : Yes. Please use the API explorer if you must cancel now
[2015-12-14 22:57:32] BitMEX_Sam : We will patch immediately
[2015-12-14 22:57:46] j8 : the cancel all buttons work.
[2015-12-14 22:57:54] BitMEX_Sam : Good! Thanks for that
[2015-12-14 22:58:09] wurstgelee : i created a new order and could cancel it,
[2015-12-14 22:58:23] wurstgelee : bc i didnt reload for quite a while maybe?
[2015-12-14 22:58:48] j8 : refresh for the broken version :)
[2015-12-14 22:59:03] wurstgelee : yep ;)
[2015-12-14 23:07:36] micmix : rapidtrades: Hi rapid! Serious answerto your question: Definitely use python, C++ is really hard to start with. If you can find something that doesn't require programming like Haasbot it's even better. BitMEX_Sam made very good sample https://github.com/BitMEX/market-maker. It has everything you need, you just have to add your own strategy.
[2015-12-14 23:10:39] rapidtrades : micmix: tnx man
[2015-12-14 23:13:44] micmix : BTW, did you guys see Coinbase crazyness? I was away all day and got a text to check our balance on Coinbase. Logged in and HOLY CR@P!
[2015-12-14 23:14:09] habibi : micmix: did ur bot played on these waves?
[2015-12-14 23:14:24] cataquil : they have OTC
[2015-12-14 23:14:32] micmix : Our MM made more in one day than in 2 previous month!
[2015-12-14 23:14:49] j8 : that's awesome... i figured people must be making a killing
[2015-12-14 23:14:49] haxmb : micmix what scale we talking about
[2015-12-14 23:15:02] haxmb : $10,000+ ?
[2015-12-14 23:15:10] micmix : haxmb: can't say, sorry
[2015-12-14 23:15:36] haxmb : oh are non -US customers allowed on coinbase yet?
[2015-12-14 23:15:37] habibi : rapidtrades ammount
[2015-12-14 23:15:48] j8 : not bad for an otherwise slow day of trading
[2015-12-14 23:16:27] BitMEX_Sam : micmix: Yeah I bet it was extremely profitable, pretty tight range but a ton of oscillation
[2015-12-14 23:16:29] BitMEX_Sam : perfect MM conditions
[2015-12-14 23:16:42] BitMEX_Sam : Order cancel bug is fixed, thanks guy for bringing that to my attention asap
[2015-12-14 23:17:11] jesperf : Do you have bug bounties yet?
[2015-12-14 23:17:56] micmix : yep, we get similar conditions on okc sometimes, but not for that long and not on that scale
[2015-12-14 23:18:12] rapidtrades : micmix: okc spot or futures
[2015-12-14 23:18:18] micmix : spot
[2015-12-14 23:18:26] micmix : BTC/CNY
[2015-12-14 23:18:31] BitMEX_Sam : jesperf: Us?
[2015-12-14 23:18:33] rapidtrades : don't trade that
[2015-12-14 23:18:42] BitMEX_Sam : https://cobalt.io/bitmex
[2015-12-14 23:18:57] rapidtrades : micmix: do u bot on USD
[2015-12-14 23:19:23] jesperf : BitMEX_Sam: yeah, that's what I meant :) good to know!
[2015-12-14 23:20:10] micmix : haxmb: coinbase exchange is available in UK, Canada and many US states
[2015-12-14 23:34:24] micmix : rapidtrades: we run different algos on most bitcoin exchanges
[2015-12-14 23:34:49] micmix : oops, I meant 'I run'
[2015-12-14 23:36:12] rapidtrades : :)
[2015-12-14 23:39:05] wurstgelee : ok, now i have that error on canceling orders too...
[2015-12-14 23:39:22] wurstgelee : BitMEX_Sam: how is the fixing coming along? ;)
[2015-12-14 23:49:34] sleger : that's not a bug, it's a new feature to increase commissions :)
[2015-12-14 23:52:09] habibi : finex is finexing
[2015-12-14 23:52:19] habibi : i mean not working ;p
[2015-12-14 23:53:06] cataquil : and what happens to all the half XBT
[2015-12-14 23:54:52] cataquil : richard prior superman 3
[2015-12-14 23:57:20] wurstgelee : oh great, tradeblock index is 80% finex again :/
[2015-12-14 23:57:26] wurstgelee : *coinbase
[2015-12-14 23:57:30] wurstgelee : not finex
[2015-12-14 23:58:58] BitMEX_Sam : wurstgelee: Try again - cleared it up
[2015-12-14 23:59:54] wurstgelee : no orders and no position. but thank you! ;)
[2015-12-15 00:01:11] BitMEX_Sam : Thanks for bearing with us :)
[2015-12-15 00:01:18] cataquil : hugh? does bitmex api give tradeblo
[2015-12-15 00:01:31] cataquil : exchange weighing?
[2015-12-15 00:02:19] cataquil : 42%
[2015-12-15 00:02:25] BitMEX_Sam : Not yet, but it will soon. We have the data and the permission to publish it.
[2015-12-15 00:02:43] cataquil : coinbase seems to come out of nowhere, it was bitfinex a few weeks ago
[2015-12-15 00:04:37] cataquil : seems like alot of volume is not being weighed if CNY exchanges are not being factored in
[2015-12-15 00:07:49] sleger : they just throw volume out of the window ?
[2015-12-15 00:07:58] sleger : that's not very nice
[2015-12-15 00:09:11] cataquil : well maybe they do it for charity
[2015-12-15 00:22:37] habibi : china is pumping
[2015-12-15 00:22:40] wurstgelee : yep
[2015-12-15 00:23:21] wurstgelee : market here disagrees tho oO
[2015-12-15 00:23:32] wurstgelee : ignorance is power or seomthing
[2015-12-15 00:23:33] cataquil : oh the irony
[2015-12-15 00:25:37] kingscrown : tiny advertisment from santa *<|:-).. just 24 more followers needed till 5k followers. If you dont follow me yet - fix that as xmas gift ;) https://twitter.com/kingscrownBTC on 5k followers i will be giving out gifts! *<|:-) *<|:-)
[2015-12-15 00:26:21] podizzle3k : ban
[2015-12-15 00:26:23] podizzle3k : ban santa
[2015-12-15 00:27:03] podizzler3k : kingscrown you know they cant see it in bitmex chat
[2015-12-15 00:27:07] podizzler3k : you have to be on irc
[2015-12-15 00:27:21] podizzler3k : santa's been censored
[2015-12-15 00:27:32] wurstgelee : when exactly did we start to ignore china's pumps here? :p
[2015-12-15 00:28:16] justinlooking : when we go uncomfortably long and want to go to sleep
[2015-12-15 00:28:16] irbbqu : Short it!
[2015-12-15 00:28:18] irbbqu : Now is time to shortlelel
[2015-12-15 00:28:24] wurstgelee : lol :D
[2015-12-15 00:28:34] REKT : Liquidated short on XBT24H: Buy 16 @ 451.15
[2015-12-15 00:28:39] wurstgelee : justinlooking: i know that. want to go to bed too
[2015-12-15 00:28:47] irbbqu : Kill it, kill da prwemiums!
[2015-12-15 00:28:47] wurstgelee : had to do a tactical fomo tho :/
[2015-12-15 00:29:34] irbbqu : 450 will hod
[2015-12-15 00:30:26] TschavaTschigger : shit about to go crazy... because I am going to bed
[2015-12-15 00:30:30] TschavaTschigger : cya tomorrow folks
[2015-12-15 00:30:43] wurstgelee : good night ;)
[2015-12-15 00:30:43] justinlooking : lol nn
[2015-12-15 00:31:09] justinlooking : 450 coincides 3000 psych resistance
[2015-12-15 00:32:02] irbbqu : bfx margin longs getting heavier, probably BTFD will suffer sometime soon I reckon.
[2015-12-15 00:33:04] irbbqu : Still eyeing that okc gap @3030 ^^
[2015-12-15 00:33:14] REKT : Liquidated short on XBT24H: Buy 3700 @ 451.89
[2015-12-15 00:34:04] wurstgelee : if someone wakes up coinbase, we can go higher....
[2015-12-15 00:34:04] podizzle3k : okc gap @ 3030 wtf u talkin about
[2015-12-15 00:34:07] wurstgelee : :/
[2015-12-15 00:34:10] podizzle3k : their books dont even go that high
[2015-12-15 00:34:13] macios15 : pump sponsored by 2h sar
[2015-12-15 00:34:46] irbbqu : What is le gap
[2015-12-15 00:34:50] irbbqu : Can find on books??
[2015-12-15 00:34:54] podizzle3k : macios15 thats cute. but really its the ceres conjunction
[2015-12-15 00:35:32] wurstgelee : uranus! its all uranus!
[2015-12-15 00:38:34] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 262 @ 449.75
[2015-12-15 00:38:34] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 201 @ 448.97
[2015-12-15 00:38:57] wurstgelee : ok..now with negtative premium...
[2015-12-15 00:39:00] wurstgelee : oO
[2015-12-15 00:39:03] irbbqu : Hilarious haha
[2015-12-15 00:39:08] wurstgelee : oh, positive again
[2015-12-15 00:39:27] wurstgelee : glad we have shenenigans here as well
[2015-12-15 00:39:42] justinlooking : wurstgelee: that would be discount :P
[2015-12-15 00:39:51] wurstgelee : yes, lol
[2015-12-15 00:40:03] wurstgelee : i lobv like to overcomplicate things
[2015-12-15 00:40:29] micmix : BitMEX_Sam, if public API request is signed with an API key, does the request count toward account rate limit or IP rate limit?
[2015-12-15 00:45:24] wurstgelee : i dont get how the index can be lower than both finex and coinbase
[2015-12-15 00:45:31] wurstgelee : if those 2 are 98% of it
[2015-12-15 00:45:35] macios15 : rekt zone
[2015-12-15 00:45:43] wurstgelee : ooohoh...MC incoming
[2015-12-15 00:46:34] REKT : Liquidated short on XBT7D: Buy 1000 @ 459.03
[2015-12-15 00:46:42] Swedishnut : mind control?
[2015-12-15 00:46:44] REKT : Liquidated short on XBT24H: Buy 2000 @ 452.23
[2015-12-15 00:46:54] REKT : Liquidated short on XBT7D: Buy 500 @ 461.24
[2015-12-15 00:46:59] wurstgelee : now thats a nice green dildo
[2015-12-15 00:47:02] wurstgelee : okc futures ;)
[2015-12-15 00:47:19] wurstgelee : also touched 3k
[2015-12-15 00:47:36] sleger : they forgot about a 2k wall ?
[2015-12-15 00:47:54] wurstgelee : they touched it ;)
[2015-12-15 00:47:59] wurstgelee : houbi did, the 3k
[2015-12-15 00:48:20] justinlooking : my ok.cn is fucked again
[2015-12-15 00:48:24] macios15 : lol it didint retrece jet
[2015-12-15 00:48:32] macios15 : gona try again
[2015-12-15 00:48:38] cataquil : 1/6th tp hit 435.5 chart took awhile to update off the orderboard
[2015-12-15 00:49:12] cataquil : many thanks 92 at 448
[2015-12-15 00:49:43] macios15 : walls loves to be eaten
[2015-12-15 00:50:17] cataquil : gotta prick them the dam
[2015-12-15 00:51:44] macios15 : no resistance above 3k
[2015-12-15 00:52:05] macios15 : could touch 3040 in spike
[2015-12-15 00:53:23] justinlooking : "up on an escalator, down in a lift"
[2015-12-15 00:55:21] wurstgelee : finex is higher or equal to xbt24h with premium oO
[2015-12-15 00:55:51] habibi : bots are coinbasing today
[2015-12-15 00:55:52] wurstgelee : i hate the fact that coinbase controls the index currently :|
[2015-12-15 00:55:53] habibi : here*
[2015-12-15 00:56:25] macios15 : fair price should be made by huobi
[2015-12-15 00:57:42] wurstgelee : 2980 getting some support
[2015-12-15 00:58:05] laisee : song of the day : "fly me to the moon"
[2015-12-15 01:00:26] justinlooking : that's about 50k been closed in last few mins
[2015-12-15 01:00:28] justinlooking : on 24h
[2015-12-15 01:00:48] justinlooking : hioefykky we can go bid now
[2015-12-15 01:00:50] justinlooking : hopefully
[2015-12-15 01:00:57] wurstgelee : still holding most of mine
[2015-12-15 01:01:00] thoth : 3010 volume cliff on okchy
[2015-12-15 01:01:08] wurstgelee : ups, now only half
[2015-12-15 01:01:10] wurstgelee : lol
[2015-12-15 01:01:58] cataquil : chinese wake up and keep us up all night riding their flow
[2015-12-15 01:02:15] wurstgelee : i wanted to go to bed early today
[2015-12-15 01:02:22] wurstgelee : was really tired at 11pm
[2015-12-15 01:02:24] wurstgelee : now 2 am :(
[2015-12-15 01:02:31] justinlooking : buy some more
[2015-12-15 01:02:36] justinlooking : 7d value
[2015-12-15 01:03:04] REKT : Liquidated short on XBT24H: Buy 70 @ 453.90