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[2015-12-13 12:02:08] TschavaTschigger : for my master thesis I am doing NLP sentiment analysis of tweets about companies and look for correlations to stock price/vola/volume
[2015-12-13 12:02:49] rapidtrades : how much would it cost me to outright buy some simple arb/mm bots?
[2015-12-13 12:03:02] rapidtrades : well relatively simple
[2015-12-13 12:03:16] rapidtrades : not just blindly quote bid/asks on top
[2015-12-13 12:04:11] laisee : check out bitmex mm python code, it's free and simple enough you could easily adapt.
[2015-12-13 12:04:35] TschavaTschigger : you can't just buy free profits... if the profits the bot makes is greater than it's price, the coders of the bot wouldn't sell it but trade themselves
[2015-12-13 12:05:27] laisee : exactly, Renaissance doesn't sell its code.
[2015-12-13 12:06:04] rapidtrades : well I still see and do arbs across exchanges, so the market is not saturated yet...but a bot would do a better job when it comes to execution
[2015-12-13 12:06:31] rapidtrades : basically I would say when its GO and the bot will have the job of doing the arb
[2015-12-13 12:06:43] thehawthorne : You don't need any code. its in your head. everything.
[2015-12-13 12:06:55] laisee : thats easy enough to code, nothing fancy about execution scripts
[2015-12-13 12:07:16] rapidtrades : it's just too slow, especially when things move, browser trading sucks @thehawthorne
[2015-12-13 12:07:46] thehawthorne : It does. If you are not on profit.
[2015-12-13 12:07:52] laisee : one drawback ... some API get lagged badly when price action is highest
[2015-12-13 12:08:38] cataquil : TschavaTschigger: https://www.marketpsych.com/
[2015-12-13 12:08:47] rapidtrades : so I guess scripts would work ok too I guess, doesn't have to be a bot that runs all the time
[2015-12-13 12:09:59] cataquil : laisee: thanks
[2015-12-13 12:10:25] laisee : yes, best to test out the idea using some execution scripts then automate data collection and signal generation. finally you can put it together if profits are there.
[2015-12-13 12:11:44] laisee : cataquil: > nice link. reading 'thinking fast & slow" now, have you heard of it?
[2015-12-13 12:11:46] TschavaTschigger : cataquil: they only use finance-specific tweets :(
[2015-12-13 12:11:57] cataquil : yeah its amazing that there is still arbs in this market, people were talking about that years ago
[2015-12-13 12:12:07] cataquil : ahh so do a bitcoin one
[2015-12-13 12:12:43] TschavaTschigger : cataquil: no, I mean, the only use finance-tweets about companies... they don't cover things like "fucking apple, this ipad is shit"
[2015-12-13 12:12:56] TschavaTschigger : only finance-related tweets
[2015-12-13 12:13:33] TschavaTschigger : i guess they parse the stock symbol, you only get a very very small subset and IMHO its hard to get meaningful results out of that
[2015-12-13 12:16:18] HotDogs : I think you would find much more value looking at strange moves in OTM options on US equities
[2015-12-13 12:16:43] TschavaTschigger : even for huge companies like apple, there are sometimes 10-15 minutes gaps for finance tweets
[2015-12-13 12:16:47] HotDogs : insiders love to load up on options before big moves, i bet if you tested you would find statistical significance
[2015-12-13 12:19:10] AudibleScience : how come our mark price on 24h is so high right now?
[2015-12-13 12:19:59] habibi : fomo traders
[2015-12-13 12:20:11] AudibleScience : tradeblock hasn't been near 439 in the last 30 minutes?
[2015-12-13 12:20:16] BitMEX_Arthur : The premium is a representation of implied volatility for 24 hours
[2015-12-13 12:22:46] AudibleScience : is it not just a 30-minute TWAP of TradeBlock then?
[2015-12-13 12:22:50] cataquil : TschavaTschigger: I am glad you see things lacking there, so there is more development to do...if it aint out there somewhere else
[2015-12-13 12:23:10] cataquil : it was just an example
[2015-12-13 12:23:13] BitMEX_Arthur : AudibleScience: That is how the settlement price at 12:00 GMT is calculated
[2015-12-13 12:23:34] BitMEX_Arthur : 11:30 to 12:00 GMT 30 minute TWAP using 1 minute snaps
[2015-12-13 12:24:08] cataquil : I think also marketpsych was driven off stocktweets where tweets would have hashtags of stock symbols
[2015-12-13 12:24:24] AudibleScience : I see... and is the mark price calculation prop.?
[2015-12-13 12:24:36] cataquil : twitter took stocktweets hashtags basically
[2015-12-13 12:25:26] TschavaTschigger : cataquil: yeah I know stocktweets. However I don't like those platforms due to lack of transparency. I wanna know what algorithms they use and what training data they have to get an estimate how well the system could work
[2015-12-13 12:26:48] AudibleScience : I guess at the time of settlement it resets the volatility setting so the mark price could very well jump in price by $4 or so...
[2015-12-13 12:27:06] TschavaTschigger : most of stock twitter analyses use naive bayes cause it's easier to implement than logistic regression for example. but it's much less sophisticated and produces worse results. tested both with 1.5m+ handclassified tweets training data.
[2015-12-13 12:28:20] cataquil : I think I need a bot to reenter my position after settlement
[2015-12-13 12:28:43] AudibleScience : BitMEX_Arthur: is that what happened this settlement?
[2015-12-13 12:28:44] habibi : just use 7d then
[2015-12-13 12:28:46] cataquil : 12:01 pop
[2015-12-13 12:30:22] cataquil : TschavaTschigger: I agree, I dont use the service and dont like blackboxes
[2015-12-13 12:30:55] cataquil : but native bayes very logistic regression....well you know a bit more than me about that it is obvious
[2015-12-13 12:32:37] TschavaTschigger : cataquil: here is an easy explanation https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-difference-between-logistic-regression-and-Naive-Bayes
[2015-12-13 12:33:00] TschavaTschigger : <i>The difference between NB and LogReg happens when features are correlated. Say you have two features which are useful predictors -- they correlate with the labels -- but they themselves are repetitive, having extra correlation with each other as well. NB will give both of them strong weights, so their influence is double-counted. But logistic regression will compensate by weighting them lower</i>
[2015-12-13 12:36:04] cataquil : all these tools are great, but I actively try and avoid analysis paralysis and my best trades have been based on gut and market profile volume.
[2015-12-13 12:36:24] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Arthur: do u have a longer history re:clawbacks on bitmex? it only goes back to october 2015
[2015-12-13 12:36:34] cataquil : in main markets, here I just by dips ...
[2015-12-13 12:36:47] BitMEX_Arthur : You should be able to query the API directly for more data
[2015-12-13 12:36:48] cataquil : seems to work well
[2015-12-13 12:37:25] cataquil : never buy fomo, learning to stop that emotional response is a good lesson for any trader
[2015-12-13 12:37:33] BitMEX_Arthur : rapidtrades: I will flag this to Sam there seems to be an issue with the pagination
[2015-12-13 12:37:42] rapidtrades : ok thanks
[2015-12-13 12:38:32] rapidtrades : it's hard to calculate my risk with only 1 event
[2015-12-13 12:38:57] BitMEX_Arthur : In August there was an adjustment
[2015-12-13 12:39:08] BitMEX_Arthur : I'm looking through the API now to see if I can find a call for you
[2015-12-13 12:40:02] cataquil : arthur when you see the limit orders on the chart, you can move them but it would be good if the price changed when you did
[2015-12-13 12:40:04] TschavaTschigger : cataquil: I actually colletected bitcoin tweets too, but haven't analyzed them yet. don't think there will be any correlations, just not enough volume. maybe if you include forum/twitter posts etc
[2015-12-13 12:40:19] BitMEX_Arthur : rapidtrades: https://www.bitmex.com/api/v1/settlement?symbol=XBTQ15&count=100&start=0&reverse=false
[2015-12-13 12:40:32] BitMEX_Arthur : check out the API explorer and the endpoint `Settlement`
[2015-12-13 12:40:39] BitMEX_Arthur : you can fiddle around with it there
[2015-12-13 12:41:01] BitMEX_Arthur : cataquil: Do you mean clicking on the orderbook to pre populate the qty price fields?
[2015-12-13 12:41:31] cataquil : no I mean when you have open limits not filled
[2015-12-13 12:41:42] BitMEX_Arthur : cataquil: Ah you mean order amend
[2015-12-13 12:41:48] BitMEX_Arthur : That is on the list of dev items
[2015-12-13 12:42:02] cataquil : on the chart, it shows a little tab next to a dotted green/red line
[2015-12-13 12:42:23] cataquil : if I click on the tag of the limit
[2015-12-13 12:42:27] BitMEX_Arthur : And you want to be able to amend the order on the chart?
[2015-12-13 12:42:38] cataquil : and move it from original 430 buy to 433
[2015-12-13 12:42:45] AudibleScience : hey Arthur, I'd like to have a quick chat with you about a few ideas... and see if you think any of them are any good...
[2015-12-13 12:42:59] cataquil : it sticks on the chart at 433 but is sstill actually a limiit at 430
[2015-12-13 12:43:00] BitMEX_Arthur : AudibleScience: Best to shoot me a mail, arthur@bitmex.com
[2015-12-13 12:43:21] cataquil : BitMEX_Arthur: cool thanks
[2015-12-13 12:43:44] BitMEX_Arthur : cataquil: TV is tricky sometimes will let sam know about that
[2015-12-13 12:44:00] cataquil : will make it alot faster for manual traders to deal bot order spam
[2015-12-13 12:44:20] AudibleScience : nice one Arthur, thanks.
[2015-12-13 12:45:15] cataquil : how about a Stop Market order
[2015-12-13 12:45:19] cataquil : and an oco
[2015-12-13 12:45:41] BitMEX_Arthur : cataquil: You can already do that, use a Stop Limit Order with an aggressive limit price
[2015-12-13 12:45:47] BitMEX_Arthur : OCO is also on the dev list
[2015-12-13 12:45:55] cataquil : fair play
[2015-12-13 12:46:14] BitMEX_Arthur : me personally, i'm not a fan of market orders they are very dangerous
[2015-12-13 12:46:26] BitMEX_Arthur : besides with margin, there is always a limit to the price
[2015-12-13 12:46:40] wurstgelee : sortable order history tab with filter functions (to filter out unfilled orders)! ;)
[2015-12-13 12:46:41] BitMEX_Arthur : regardless if we call it a market order or limit order
[2015-12-13 12:47:12] BitMEX_Arthur : wurstgelee: https://www.bitmex.com/app/tradeHistory
[2015-12-13 12:47:19] BitMEX_Arthur : You can filter already
[2015-12-13 12:47:25] rapidtrades : taxRate":0.5779 ....is this a 57% clawback? @BitMEX_Arthur
[2015-12-13 12:47:34] BitMEX_Arthur : rapidtrades: correct
[2015-12-13 12:47:54] rapidtrades : ok tnx
[2015-12-13 12:48:07] wurstgelee : BitMEX_Arthur: yep, works - simple checkbox to not show unfilled orders would serve the same purpose but way easier and faster to access ;)
[2015-12-13 12:48:27] wurstgelee : directly in the order history tab
[2015-12-13 12:49:12] TschavaTschigger : once lost 0.8 btc in like 0.01 seconds doing a 1000 market order close after settlement :D
[2015-12-13 12:49:16] AudibleScience : are trailing stops on the dev list too? @BitMEX_Arthur
[2015-12-13 12:49:31] BitMEX_Arthur : AudibleScience: Yes although it seems OCO is the most requested order type
[2015-12-13 12:49:39] rapidtrades : XBTQ15 ...was this a 6-month or 3 month contract? @BitMEX_Arthur
[2015-12-13 12:49:45] BitMEX_Arthur : 1 month
[2015-12-13 12:49:51] BitMEX_Arthur : We used to have monthlies
[2015-12-13 12:49:56] rapidtrades : ah ok
[2015-12-13 12:59:09] cataquil : Although you have minimize and maximize buttons on the subwindows, it would be nice to size these windows as you wish
[2015-12-13 13:00:07] BitMEX_Arthur : cataquil: We are working on a UI redesign. We will keep that in mind
[2015-12-13 13:00:27] cataquil : if I am long list of orders I like too see more but stilll have the chart and recent trades open
[2015-12-13 13:00:32] cataquil : BitMEX_Arthur: ok cool
[2015-12-13 13:02:59] TschavaTschigger : heading: direction goblin town
[2015-12-13 13:03:34] TschavaTschigger : that rekt bot is so funny :D
[2015-12-13 13:29:47] laisee : Arthur> any chance of adding sub-accounts for trading different strategies?
[2015-12-13 13:30:04] BitMEX_Arthur : laisee: Just open two accounts with two different emails
[2015-12-13 13:30:55] laisee : ok, thought that was the answer.
[2015-12-13 13:32:55] cataquil : seller
[2015-12-13 13:34:07] cataquil : size on ask
[2015-12-13 13:35:33] TschavaTschigger : BitMEX_Arthur: would you mind telling us what your monthly revenue is? or do we have to calculate the overall fees ourselves? :D
[2015-12-13 13:35:53] BitMEX_Arthur : TschavaTschigger: As you can appreciate we do not make those figures public
[2015-12-13 13:36:14] BitMEX_Arthur : You are free to download our trading volumes through our API and make your own judgement
[2015-12-13 13:36:26] TschavaTschigger : yeah I figured. bummer. thanks I will do.
[2015-12-13 13:43:59] sleger : BitMEX_Arthur: Does every single client pay the same fee structure ?
[2015-12-13 13:48:56] chromaticcr : referred users pay 10% less for 6 months
[2015-12-13 13:49:23] sleger : "fee structure"
[2015-12-13 13:49:24] chromaticcr : and market maker can negotiate price with bitmex @sleger
[2015-12-13 13:49:49] sleger : that's what I want to know, is that still true now that there is a maker rebate for everyone?
[2015-12-13 13:51:20] chromaticcr : I guess so for all nonXBU contracts, the rebate thing is a new policy. like for 3 weeks.
[2015-12-13 13:51:31] chromaticcr : you may wanna refer here https://www.bitmex.com/app/fees
[2015-12-13 13:51:31] BitMEX_Arthur : sleger: There are no special deals on non XBU contracts
[2015-12-13 13:51:42] BitMEX_Arthur : If you are interested in market making XBU get in touch with us
[2015-12-13 13:52:21] sleger : Clear answer, thanks
[2015-12-13 14:30:28] sleger : Funny stuff check this : http://imgur.com/a/Gjcb5 sounds like rapidtrades and me
[2015-12-13 14:32:08] REKT : Liquidated short on XBT24H: Buy 1200 @ 442.58
[2015-12-13 14:32:09] REKT : Liquidated short on XBT24H: Buy 3600 @ 442.72
[2015-12-13 14:32:50] jung1 : ouch
[2015-12-13 14:34:00] TschavaTschigger : still going up oO
[2015-12-13 14:36:10] sleger : reducing longs from 600 to 450
[2015-12-13 14:36:53] laisee : keeping powder dry for tomorrow?
[2015-12-13 14:37:48] REKT : Liquidated short on XBT7D: Buy 500 @ 452.02
[2015-12-13 14:38:36] sleger : I still think 450 is a big enough position :)
[2015-12-13 14:38:58] jung1 : btc?
[2015-12-13 14:39:05] sleger : yes ofc
[2015-12-13 14:39:17] habibi : yep 1 dollar move gives u still more than btc at maker closing
[2015-12-13 14:39:34] jung1 : yep nice money
[2015-12-13 14:39:45] jung1 : whats your goal?
[2015-12-13 14:39:55] habibi : sky is a limit :)
[2015-12-13 14:40:00] sleger : you know what's cool ? a billion dollars
[2015-12-13 14:41:18] jung1 : https://tse2.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.Mf753d250d93246d7cbc71ef96e7e5d59o0&w=300&h=300&p=0&pid=1.7
[2015-12-13 14:41:36] sleger : not zimbabwe
[2015-12-13 14:43:39] jung1 : you invest in some altcoins or only btc?
[2015-12-13 14:44:55] TschavaTschigger : btc only
[2015-12-13 14:44:57] sleger : yes I have some euros and gbp
[2015-12-13 14:45:03] TschavaTschigger : lol
[2015-12-13 14:45:10] habibi : :d
[2015-12-13 14:45:23] TschavaTschigger : that's the spirit
[2015-12-13 14:46:28] zanza : apike time
[2015-12-13 14:46:28] jung1 : with that amount of btc you could be invisible hand of market
[2015-12-13 14:46:33] jung1 : with some altocins
[2015-12-13 14:46:35] zanza : spike
[2015-12-13 14:47:31] jung1 : play on margin on polo and pump some altcoins
[2015-12-13 14:47:34] sleger : that would be illegal to manipulate any market
[2015-12-13 14:50:22] jung1 : but fun
[2015-12-13 14:50:42] chromaticcr : it's not illegal in non-regulated market like bitcoin
[2015-12-13 14:51:07] chromaticcr : or in some juris diction that doesnt give a f
[2015-12-13 14:51:42] jung1 : +1
[2015-12-13 14:52:31] sleger : chromaticcr: that's wrong
[2015-12-13 14:52:44] chromaticcr : morally.... yup
[2015-12-13 14:52:46] sleger : tell that to the forex spot traders who thought the same for years and are now fired
[2015-12-13 14:53:18] Yepachuchu : it's only cheating if you get caught
[2015-12-13 14:53:21] chromaticcr : well.... coz where he trade is regulated i guess...
[2015-12-13 14:53:28] Yepachuchu : this applies to war and high finance
[2015-12-13 14:53:40] sleger : if you manipulate altcoin xyz and some US entity claims that affected bitcoin spot price which affected some future or other derivatives athen CFTC can have regulation worldwide
[2015-12-13 14:54:28] sleger : chromaticcr: no they were traded unregulated forex spot, but as I explained above they had a problem because regulators claimed their manipulation indirectly affected prices of derivatives using spot as underlying and therefore had jurisdiction.
[2015-12-13 14:54:39] sleger : lawyered !!
[2015-12-13 14:54:53] habibi : basically if u push price and sets a buy wall like u did yesterday here. that could be even considered as manipulation
[2015-12-13 14:55:12] sleger : habibi: ? I never put a wall yesterday
[2015-12-13 14:55:22] sleger : I ate the one of someone else.
[2015-12-13 14:55:46] TschavaTschigger : ouch.... lawyered hard... well played
[2015-12-13 14:55:47] habibi : ah sorry then i thought u were the one with 56k wall or sth @442
[2015-12-13 14:56:10] sleger : no I took it, and anyways, the one who put it did not manipulate as he intented it to be filled
[2015-12-13 14:56:36] sleger : manipulation is for instance putting a big wall just below market to push it up without intending it to be filled
[2015-12-13 14:57:35] wurstgelee : and we all know that type of manipulation never happens ;)
[2015-12-13 14:57:42] habibi : yea
[2015-12-13 14:57:57] habibi : would be really terrible way of manipulating poor bitcoiners
[2015-12-13 14:58:09] wurstgelee : :D
[2015-12-13 14:58:46] sleger : With futures on btc, (and even more if there will be an etf) all the people manipulating bitcoin price or even litecoin to manipulate bitcoin price might face criminal charges, and maybe even in a few years from now.
[2015-12-13 14:59:22] Yepachuchu : eh, prove it yo
[2015-12-13 14:59:45] sleger : not as hard as you may think
[2015-12-13 14:59:47] habibi : tell it to goldman sanchs
[2015-12-13 15:00:00] habibi : tell it to last eur/usd trap made by them
[2015-12-13 15:01:09] REKT : Liquidated short on XBT24H: Buy 477 @ 447.24
[2015-12-13 15:01:58] TschavaTschigger : i believe spoofing is already happening at some exchanges
[2015-12-13 15:02:15] TschavaTschigger : especially low fee markets, Chinese for instance
[2015-12-13 15:02:26] sleger : of course it is
[2015-12-13 15:04:01] j8 : all that wash trade volume is super shady
[2015-12-13 15:04:55] habibi : what would u talk about volumizers at chinas?
[2015-12-13 15:05:08] habibi : sleger: manipulating way or just a fun :p?
[2015-12-13 15:05:14] laisee : everything is permitted, nothing forbidden in CNY markets.
[2015-12-13 15:05:22] BitMEX_Sam : For now.
[2015-12-13 15:06:40] sleger : it is not permitted, there just hasnt been anything against these people, it doesnt mean the regulators arent collecting information now and will sue them in 3 years
[2015-12-13 15:08:28] habibi : Lex letro not agit
[2015-12-13 15:11:48] sleger : habibi: ? Law against it already exist
[2015-12-13 15:12:41] habibi : in china?
[2015-12-13 15:13:47] habibi : lagging hard for me or everyone?
[2015-12-13 15:14:08] BitMEX_Sam : habibi: We're seeing more load than usual, I'm adding another server to compensate
[2015-12-13 15:14:25] habibi : good! thanks
[2015-12-13 15:15:24] jung1 : same
[2015-12-13 15:15:34] jung1 : BitMEX_Sam: good to hear that!
[2015-12-13 15:15:50] wurstgelee : also hard lagging, yes
[2015-12-13 15:15:50] habibi : first time saw red at connection quality box
[2015-12-13 15:16:15] jung1 : bitmex growing fast
[2015-12-13 15:16:25] habibi : BitMEX_Sam: ddos?
[2015-12-13 15:16:56] BitMEX_Sam : No, not DDOS, just a few bots misbehaving; we're working on adaptive ratelimiting for more expensive queries
[2015-12-13 15:17:07] BitMEX_Sam : In the meantime, we'll just put more servers up and work to speed up those queries as well
[2015-12-13 15:17:17] habibi : so still like a ddos :p
[2015-12-13 15:18:09] BitMEX_Sam : Sort of. But not the intentional sort.
[2015-12-13 15:18:17] BitMEX_Sam : Or at least, not the malicious kind :)
[2015-12-13 15:18:53] TschavaTschigger : BitMEX_Sam: well rapidtrades announced today he wants to start botting on bitmex. seriously. so take care of your servers, implement some noob-protection or everything is going to crash
[2015-12-13 15:19:10] BitMEX_Sam : I saw that. Good luck to him
[2015-12-13 15:19:11] sleger : He seriously said that ?
[2015-12-13 15:19:14] habibi : shieeet
[2015-12-13 15:19:30] TschavaTschigger : yeah, bitmex and (and thats the really funny part) forex
[2015-12-13 15:19:32] habibi : abadon the ship
[2015-12-13 15:19:38] justinlooking : outisde of the rate limiting, not sure what else you can do (as an exchange)
[2015-12-13 15:19:51] sleger : I hope he will warn us before he starts, there will be serious money (at least 0.01btc) to be made when he start it up and it goes crazy
[2015-12-13 15:20:57] TschavaTschigger : forex will go crazy when rapid-bots load off their volume
[2015-12-13 15:22:15] sleger : so he's learning VBA now ?
[2015-12-13 15:22:25] habibi : basically... the anserw is to go long on everything as fast as he short
[2015-12-13 15:22:36] justinlooking : lol don' tknock vba!
[2015-12-13 15:23:17] sleger : vba is for assistant traders and smart consultants from big 4
[2015-12-13 15:23:21] habibi : stocks will go nuts, gold will go again above 1500, russian will be saved coz oil will hit 100$
[2015-12-13 15:24:59] habibi : i think i will go long on oil by fueling my car full at petrol station.
[2015-12-13 15:25:31] sleger : you're not afraid it's gonna ruin the seats and smell bad for a while ?
[2015-12-13 15:26:02] habibi : its worth it! if only rapid will short
[2015-12-13 15:29:00] laisee : balling bots ... clash of the titans
[2015-12-13 15:32:42] justinlooking : my connection quality went red for a moment there
[2015-12-13 15:32:57] sleger : justinlooking: where do you see that ?
[2015-12-13 15:33:03] justinlooking : top right
[2015-12-13 15:33:06] habibi : right top
[2015-12-13 15:33:08] justinlooking : between the notificaitons and available
[2015-12-13 15:33:47] habibi : who bought 7k at 449.8
[2015-12-13 15:33:49] habibi : ;p?
[2015-12-13 15:33:52] TschavaTschigger : interesting, I don't have that
[2015-12-13 15:34:07] sleger : i dont see it either, you guys use advanced layout ?
[2015-12-13 15:34:14] justinlooking : no
[2015-12-13 15:34:18] habibi : http://scr.hu/9xvi/arh4w
[2015-12-13 15:34:24] justinlooking : but might require screen width > n
[2015-12-13 15:34:29] sleger : habibi: yeah i dont know who bought, I just sold 2k against it though
[2015-12-13 15:34:42] habibi : hah so it was an order buy there? :p
[2015-12-13 15:34:49] AudibleScience : TschavaTschigger: or just a refresh
[2015-12-13 15:35:02] BitMEX_Wally : You can switch between Basic and Advanced view by clicking on your username in the top right drop down
[2015-12-13 15:35:03] TschavaTschigger : AudibleScience: thanks, refresh did it
[2015-12-13 15:35:06] sleger : yep i guess its new, refresh brought it
[2015-12-13 15:35:58] sleger : mine is black and says "admin mode enabled"
[2015-12-13 15:36:12] justinlooking : lol
[2015-12-13 15:36:23] sleger : oh and it shows all your balances and I can withdraw them :)
[2015-12-13 15:36:26] habibi : rapidtrades has rekt mode
[2015-12-13 15:36:54] habibi : nicee ;)
[2015-12-13 15:36:59] habibi : we will see 5 $ move here soon
[2015-12-13 15:37:02] habibi : or more:)
[2015-12-13 15:37:12] justinlooking : okc weekly just fell $7
[2015-12-13 15:37:20] habibi : yep
[2015-12-13 15:37:22] habibi : free money here <3
[2015-12-13 15:37:26] TschavaTschigger : dayum
[2015-12-13 15:37:39] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 25000 @ 443.97 <b>MEGA-REKT</b>
[2015-12-13 15:37:39] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 2 @ 442.94
[2015-12-13 15:38:08] stevelim : collapsing
[2015-12-13 15:38:29] justinlooking : get out of jail free
[2015-12-13 15:40:16] JDUB99 : wheres the rollercoaster pic?
[2015-12-13 15:40:32] sleger : price goes down and premium increases, wth
[2015-12-13 15:40:43] habibi : yea weird stuff
[2015-12-13 15:40:54] irbbqu : Havent you heard? BTFD!
[2015-12-13 15:41:00] wurstgelee : :D
[2015-12-13 15:44:09] REKT : Liquidated short on XBT24H: Buy 6823 @ 446.60
[2015-12-13 15:46:19] justinlooking : moon again
[2015-12-13 15:46:53] TschavaTschigger : I would pref goblin town right now
[2015-12-13 15:47:19] habibi : i am sad didnt close my short on 25k liquidation
[2015-12-13 15:47:44] habibi : probally sleger took it?
[2015-12-13 15:47:56] sleger : no
[2015-12-13 15:47:59] sleger : didnt see
[2015-12-13 15:49:02] habibi : 155k contracts
[2015-12-13 15:49:05] habibi : in case of some rapid moove
[2015-12-13 15:49:21] habibi : rekt will be real :p
[2015-12-13 15:52:43] podizzler3k : oh cool i got some at 441
[2015-12-13 15:52:50] podizzler3k : thx stop lossers
[2015-12-13 15:52:53] justinlooking : gold
[2015-12-13 15:52:56] wurstgelee : ;)
[2015-12-13 15:53:08] podizzler3k : (sleger): if you manipulate altcoin xyz and some US entity claims that affected bitcoin spot price which affected some future or other derivatives athen CFTC can have regulation worldwide
[2015-12-13 15:53:18] wurstgelee : someone put up some buy order @ 448, sold into that
[2015-12-13 15:53:23] wurstgelee : so flat currently
[2015-12-13 15:53:27] podizzler3k : yeah and US can give you the death penalty if you J walk with a bag of weed in your pocket
[2015-12-13 15:53:43] podizzler3k : 448 already?
[2015-12-13 15:53:57] wurstgelee : shortly after dip
[2015-12-13 15:54:03] wurstgelee : bots were going a little mad
[2015-12-13 15:54:09] wurstgelee : before and after
[2015-12-13 15:54:49] podizzler3k : yeah i seen that but didnt connect it was that high above real price
[2015-12-13 15:54:50] wurstgelee : 10 mins ago
[2015-12-13 15:55:04] wurstgelee : it was, mad premium
[2015-12-13 15:55:30] podizzler3k : i just thought it bounced that hard i need to do a quick comparison to the little gray number
[2015-12-13 15:55:38] wurstgelee : not premium, few dollars above fair price even
[2015-12-13 15:55:48] podizzler3k : yep
[2015-12-13 15:56:30] wurstgelee : its like the last 2 hours didnt happen
[2015-12-13 15:56:45] wurstgelee : where do we know that from? ;)
[2015-12-13 15:57:03] wurstgelee : like friday on a smaller scale
[2015-12-13 15:57:11] podizzler3k : like the last two days didnt happen
[2015-12-13 15:57:14] wurstgelee : yep
[2015-12-13 15:57:34] podizzler3k : hmm if we get one like the last 2 years didnt happen then we would be back at $1000
[2015-12-13 15:57:54] wurstgelee : haha, just wait for bounce to $1000
[2015-12-13 15:57:56] wurstgelee : anytime now
[2015-12-13 15:58:00] wurstgelee : ;)
[2015-12-13 15:58:08] podizzler3k : never know with bitcoin
[2015-12-13 15:58:13] wurstgelee : indeed
[2015-12-13 15:58:16] podizzler3k : okcoin could decide to pump to $1000 on zero volume
[2015-12-13 15:58:46] wurstgelee : or dump to $100, then decide its missing a zero
[2015-12-13 15:59:11] podizzler3k : damn wish i sold to 448
[2015-12-13 15:59:59] wurstgelee : that made up for the 2 earlier loning attempts which i had to bail early ;)
[2015-12-13 16:00:06] wurstgelee : *longing
[2015-12-13 16:01:21] podizzler3k : higher highs and higher lows hopefully today
[2015-12-13 16:04:06] wurstgelee : my body is ready
[2015-12-13 16:33:23] cataquil : is there still a demo account available here at bitmex
[2015-12-13 16:33:33] justinlooking : testnet.bit...
[2015-12-13 16:34:04] cataquil : cheers
[2015-12-13 16:36:59] sleger : After all this time here you want to try demo now ?
[2015-12-13 16:37:21] cataquil : yep
[2015-12-13 16:37:35] sleger : to test bot ?
[2015-12-13 16:37:58] cataquil : yeah
[2015-12-13 16:38:06] cataquil : but order book nothing like in here
[2015-12-13 16:38:22] sleger : just test on the live, thats what everyone does
[2015-12-13 16:38:38] cataquil : since I joined last month I have been trading small size anyhow. Best way to learn
[2015-12-13 16:38:40] justinlooking : haha
[2015-12-13 16:38:44] TschavaTschigger : sleger: pshhh
[2015-12-13 16:39:25] laisee : maybe add a new account for testing on live
[2015-12-13 16:39:30] sleger : cataquil: just be careful. rapidtrades is launching his new VBA bot soon, so it will be very different :)
[2015-12-13 16:40:08] justinlooking : has anyone got latest haas betas to work on bitmex yet?
[2015-12-13 16:40:14] cataquil : VBA from excel, somehow I am not worried ;)
[2015-12-13 16:40:25] habibi : u will be suprised guys. okc will be on the rise pump move and here u will see new market sell shorts opened
[2015-12-13 16:40:27] laisee : HFT
[2015-12-13 16:40:44] sleger : vba maybe but rapidtrades
[2015-12-13 16:41:13] cataquil : no doubts about his intelligence, just imho vba is crap
[2015-12-13 16:41:28] TschavaTschigger : hft excel arbitrage ©rapidtrades
[2015-12-13 16:41:29] sleger : noone has doubt about his intelligence
[2015-12-13 16:41:55] laisee : best coding language available ... in Excel
[2015-12-13 16:42:16] sleger : cataquil: what did you use for your bot ? matlab ?
[2015-12-13 16:45:47] cataquil : just running samples sleg
[2015-12-13 16:46:01] sleger : so python ?
[2015-12-13 16:46:24] justinlooking : sleger: don't insult python too or we'll fall out :P
[2015-12-13 16:46:34] cataquil : so far, but am installing mongo to run the nodejs sample
[2015-12-13 16:46:38] sleger : i use python for most of my btc trading
[2015-12-13 16:46:48] laisee : python rocks.
[2015-12-13 16:46:57] justinlooking : comforting
[2015-12-13 16:47:20] cataquil : yes see in tiobe it overtook c#
[2015-12-13 16:48:07] TschavaTschigger : python will be my next language. need something to have fun with
[2015-12-13 16:48:16] sleger : i wouldnt say that they are very different in nature. I would say c# is overtaking java though
[2015-12-13 16:49:22] laisee : c# has been better than java for years now, no surprise.
[2015-12-13 16:49:44] sleger : yes but java has the advantage of cross platforms, portability etc
[2015-12-13 16:50:06] laisee : yeah, and all that legacy codes ...
[2015-12-13 16:51:14] laisee : missing async/await from c#, tho.
[2015-12-13 16:55:01] sleger : isnt that just for people who dont understand thread programming ?
[2015-12-13 16:55:24] sleger : (have never used async await so genuine question)
[2015-12-13 16:55:36] cataquil : you got async in c#
[2015-12-13 16:55:45] cataquil : they had to add because of nodejs
[2015-12-13 16:56:04] sleger : that's what he was saying, he was saying it is missing in java
[2015-12-13 16:56:42] cataquil : bloody hell java doesn't have async
[2015-12-13 17:05:00] justinlooking : seen the 404 page on tradeblock?
[2015-12-13 17:05:02] justinlooking : eg https://tradeblock.com/404
[2015-12-13 17:06:04] BitMEX_Sam : Hah that's great.
[2015-12-13 17:06:25] TschavaTschigger : so true
[2015-12-13 17:15:09] justinlooking : moon alarm raging in my belly
[2015-12-13 17:16:00] gouda : i smell a dump coming :D
[2015-12-13 17:16:08] gouda : long into my bids :D
[2015-12-13 17:20:06] podizzler3k : why isnt liquidation price on 100x entry price -1%
[2015-12-13 17:20:10] podizzler3k : what am i missing
[2015-12-13 17:21:21] j8 : maintenance margin is 0.5%
[2015-12-13 17:21:28] podizzler3k : ah
[2015-12-13 17:21:36] podizzler3k : thx
[2015-12-13 17:21:39] j8 : np
[2015-12-13 17:39:39] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 40 @ 444.71
[2015-12-13 17:57:31] podizzler3k : i guess okcoin api just permanently fucked
[2015-12-13 17:57:38] podizzler3k : gg okcoin
[2015-12-13 17:59:55] podizzler3k : at least bitcoin wisdoms access to it
[2015-12-13 18:00:03] podizzler3k : cryptowatch as well
[2015-12-13 18:00:38] TschavaTschigger : woodchipper fixing .cn servers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vh3tuL_DVsE
[2015-12-13 19:03:32] TschavaTschigger : ping
[2015-12-13 19:14:33] BitMEX_Sam : pong
[2015-12-13 19:26:56] TschavaTschigger : 11 minutes, faster than okc websocket
[2015-12-13 19:28:19] sleger : ahah you guys also have minutes delay sometimes ?
[2015-12-13 19:28:37] sleger : I wonder if some privileged users manage to have real realtime unlike the rest of us
[2015-12-13 19:29:06] j8 : i'm sure the colocated mm's have no problem
[2015-12-13 19:29:45] sleger : i dont know, because it is not network issues that cause minutes of delay
[2015-12-13 19:30:01] TschavaTschigger : their servers are just overloaded
[2015-12-13 19:30:08] TschavaTschigger : = my guess
[2015-12-13 19:30:10] sleger : thats what I think also
[2015-12-13 19:30:15] sleger : so colocation helps zero
[2015-12-13 19:30:30] justinlooking : Tradeblock seems to have a much more stable feed than i can find anywhere else
[2015-12-13 19:30:32] TschavaTschigger : i actually have a server in okc datacentre... doesnt help
[2015-12-13 19:31:16] TschavaTschigger : tradeblock only has .com though, and .com is stable for me too
[2015-12-13 19:31:46] justinlooking : i see cny too
[2015-12-13 19:32:43] TschavaTschigger : oh you are right, I was just looking at the index
[2015-12-13 19:33:24] justinlooking : do you have acct there?
[2015-12-13 19:34:18] TschavaTschigger : if acct means account, yes
[2015-12-13 19:34:50] TschavaTschigger : but haven't deposited, maybe you need to shove some wood into the chipper before you get realtime access
[2015-12-13 20:08:12] habibi : BitMEX_Sam: do u remember what was ath of contracts at the time of 24h settlemetn?
[2015-12-13 20:14:19] REKT : REKT going back to the garage for some tune ups. Will be resurREKTed when all problems are REKTified.
[2015-12-13 20:16:10] REKT : Liquidated short on XBT24H: Buy 4270 @ 447.39
[2015-12-13 20:16:11] REKT : Liquidated short on XBT24H: Buy 60 @ 447.74
[2015-12-13 20:16:11] REKT : Liquidated short on XBT24H: Buy 1000 @ 447.00
[2015-12-13 20:16:22] justinlooking : lol mic keep us posted
[2015-12-13 20:17:07] justinlooking : habibi: of contracts what?
[2015-12-13 20:17:31] habibi : open contracts
[2015-12-13 20:18:45] justinlooking : ah peak open interest
[2015-12-13 20:20:12] habibi : right
[2015-12-13 20:20:30] habibi : BitMEX_Sam: still red line connection
[2015-12-13 20:20:41] habibi : from time to time
[2015-12-13 20:20:57] TschavaTschigger : I also get some disconnects from ws
[2015-12-13 20:21:14] BitMEX_Sam : TschavaTschigger: How often?
[2015-12-13 20:21:33] TschavaTschigger : BitMEX_Sam: about 6 times in the last 10 hours
[2015-12-13 20:21:44] TschavaTschigger : or 4-5 times
[2015-12-13 20:22:00] BitMEX_Sam : TschavaTschigger: Let me know if you see it recently, we did some pretty hefty updates on the backend earlier today
[2015-12-13 20:22:04] BitMEX_Sam : But it's settled and should be stable
[2015-12-13 20:29:03] rapidtrades : Live data will be restored soon. In the meantime data will continue to be updated at 3-5 second intervals.
[2015-12-13 20:29:09] rapidtrades : finex....
[2015-12-13 20:29:54] habibi : use beta.finex
[2015-12-13 20:30:11] BitMEX_Sam : It's having issues too
[2015-12-13 20:30:14] rapidtrades : that's from the beta
[2015-12-13 20:36:41] TschavaTschigger : rapidtrades: you started your bot already? every ws on the bitcoin market is crashing
[2015-12-13 20:37:07] justinlooking : rofl
[2015-12-13 20:53:35] sleger : lol
[2015-12-13 21:33:41] habibi : let the rekt bot start speaking ! :)
[2015-12-13 21:41:54] 24hourz : What was this last drop ?
[2015-12-13 21:42:42] habibi : someone sold coins
[2015-12-13 21:42:45] habibi : why?
[2015-12-13 21:50:13] laisee : because price.
[2015-12-13 22:23:26] TschavaTschigger : I renamed my bot http://imgur.com/fBYdgns
[2015-12-13 22:24:56] TschavaTschigger : fastest tradez EU
[2015-12-13 22:29:02] laisee : RT is famous in 2 places now ...
[2015-12-13 23:02:44] habibi : TschavaTschigger: be aware, it ban be a curse
[2015-12-13 23:03:20] wurstgelee : monday morning in china. whats next, moon or doom? ;)
[2015-12-13 23:54:45] jung1 : right
[2015-12-13 23:59:32] jung1 : maybe we willh see anotger green dildo in 3h
[2015-12-14 00:02:13] jesperf : looks like goblin elevator time now though
[2015-12-14 00:05:27] wurstgelee : duuuuuuump
[2015-12-14 00:05:39] jesperf : down down down to goblin town
[2015-12-14 00:07:13] habibi : rekt bot is dea or no liquidations today?
[2015-12-14 00:07:20] wurstgelee : dunno, wondering too
[2015-12-14 00:07:26] TschavaTschigger : REKT: REKT going back to the garage for some tune ups. Will be resurREKTed when all problems are REKTified.
[2015-12-14 00:07:33] wurstgelee : ah k :)
[2015-12-14 00:07:40] habibi : are u a micmix ;p/
[2015-12-14 00:07:41] habibi : ?
[2015-12-14 00:08:05] TschavaTschigger : I just copy-pasted the message from the bot
[2015-12-14 00:08:18] habibi : ah thanks then :p
[2015-12-14 00:09:58] wurstgelee : more down, i wish rekt bot was here ;)
[2015-12-14 00:17:15] TschavaTschigger : BitMEX_Sam: hey you here?
[2015-12-14 00:18:18] habibi : jung1: patrz jak rosnie
[2015-12-14 00:18:21] habibi : http://www.bloomberg.com/quote/USDCNH:CUR
[2015-12-14 00:23:53] TschavaTschigger : is authenticating with message broken or am I just incredibly stupid?
[2015-12-14 00:24:12] TschavaTschigger : with query everything works fine
[2015-12-14 00:34:24] TschavaTschigger : meh, too tired.. cya tomorrow guys. have a nice ride to goblin town
[2015-12-14 02:31:56] BitMEX_Sam : There are no known issues, perhaps it has something to do with the way you are formatting the request
[2015-12-14 02:55:59] zanza : how low do you guys think Crude Oil will go ?
[2015-12-14 03:03:13] AudibleScience : zanza: well it came out of the ground... so maybe it will hit the floor!! Back from whence it came... lol
[2015-12-14 03:20:20] REKT : The REKTor is back, get ready for some REKT action!
[2015-12-14 03:20:37] REKT : Liquidated short on XBTH16: Buy 1000 @ 508.73
[2015-12-14 03:37:00] zanza : REKT: welcome back
[2015-12-14 03:37:15] zanza : AudibleScience: well memed
[2015-12-14 03:37:55] REKT : Liquidated short on XBTH16: Buy 1000 @ 508.73
[2015-12-14 03:43:47] laisee : I created a twitter cousin for REKT @RektBitmex
[2015-12-14 03:44:02] zanza : NICE!
[2015-12-14 03:44:20] zanza : that is useful, did you limit the announcment threshold?
[2015-12-14 03:44:36] laisee : you mean every X mins?
[2015-12-14 03:44:53] laisee : sorry, got it. No limit for position size yet
[2015-12-14 03:45:59] laisee : might add closing price, DPE % also.
[2015-12-14 04:01:35] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 10 @ 440.11
[2015-12-14 05:15:27] zanza : is snack around?
[2015-12-14 05:16:02] SnackyCoins : yo
[2015-12-14 05:19:56] REKT : Liquidated short on XBT24H: Buy 947 @ 442.78
[2015-12-14 05:19:57] REKT : Liquidated short on XBT24H: Buy 10 @ 442.79
[2015-12-14 06:07:30] zanza : sup dawg
[2015-12-14 06:07:34] zanza : hows Fallout 4?
[2015-12-14 06:08:26] zanza : http://www.androidcentral.com/huawei-mate-8-specs
[2015-12-14 06:08:35] zanza : i went long USD/CNY
[2015-12-14 06:08:52] zanza : wasn't brave enough to short SnP
[2015-12-14 06:09:00] zanza : Fed is too damn illlogical
[2015-12-14 06:11:25] SnackyCoins : i haven't played since $320
[2015-12-14 06:11:28] BitMEX_Arthur : zanza: Where did you do that?
[2015-12-14 06:11:48] SnackyCoins : too much money to be made, fallout can wait
[2015-12-14 06:12:03] laisee : zanza:> think they won't raise rates?
[2015-12-14 06:12:13] BitMEX_Arthur : I don't think so
[2015-12-14 06:12:15] SnackyCoins : arthur about to give you a 1broker link xD
[2015-12-14 06:12:27] BitMEX_Arthur : WSJ Hilsenrath already out with a piece saying if they raise they will be cutting very soon
[2015-12-14 06:12:32] BitMEX_Arthur : I think they are shit scared right now
[2015-12-14 06:12:44] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Arthur: they have to raise now
[2015-12-14 06:12:53] SnackyCoins : ^ confirmed for no raise
[2015-12-14 06:12:54] BitMEX_Arthur : They don't have to do anything
[2015-12-14 06:12:59] SnackyCoins : where was that bet with the 4:1
[2015-12-14 06:13:05] rapidtrades : it's +75% priced in, it would roil markets
[2015-12-14 06:13:12] BitMEX_Arthur : It isn't priced in
[2015-12-14 06:13:18] BitMEX_Arthur : if it were then EM wouldn't be shitting the bed
[2015-12-14 06:13:20] rapidtrades : ofc it's priced in
[2015-12-14 06:13:35] rapidtrades : that's mostly China
[2015-12-14 06:13:37] BitMEX_Arthur : I think SPX is going to dump into the meeting
[2015-12-14 06:13:45] BitMEX_Arthur : so that they don't raise