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[2015-12-09 23:45:28] sleger : Or make your own tweet message with your own referral link instead of his
[2015-12-09 23:45:55] babybaby : guys are we going to 450 ?
[2015-12-09 23:46:08] habibi : babybaby = kingscrown
[2015-12-09 23:47:39] babybaby : psssst
[2015-12-09 23:47:50] micmix : I think if that guy is a real Satoshi, 1M coins are in trouble. The trust agreement says that the guys gets all coins from the trust 14 month after his partner's death, and his partner died 2 years ago
[2015-12-09 23:48:14] habibi : micmix: and still coins didnt move
[2015-12-09 23:48:16] wurstgelee : micmix: thats my point
[2015-12-09 23:48:18] wurstgelee : =)
[2015-12-09 23:48:37] micmix : that guy has big problems with Australian tax office, so there is a big chance they will seize the coins if they can
[2015-12-09 23:48:47] wurstgelee : if he is satoshi....
[2015-12-09 23:48:52] podizzle3k : irc chat bot is down again
[2015-12-09 23:49:24] podizzle3k : http://motherboard.vice.com/read/satoshis-pgp-keys-are-probably-backdated-and-point-to-a-hoax
[2015-12-09 23:49:41] micmix : yeah, it's a big if. I think Satoshi is group of 3-5 ppl and he might be one of them
[2015-12-09 23:49:44] wurstgelee : yep, thats the if
[2015-12-09 23:49:47] wurstgelee : =)
[2015-12-09 23:49:52] STRML : Doesn't appear so, podizzler3k
[2015-12-09 23:49:56] micmix : or at least he is one of the early miners
[2015-12-09 23:50:06] wurstgelee : i think thats it
[2015-12-09 23:51:01] habibi : micmix: still it can be faked info
[2015-12-09 23:51:02] habibi : http://motherboard.vice.com/read/satoshis-pgp-keys-are-probably-backdated-and-point-to-a-hoax
[2015-12-09 23:53:44] podizzle3k : really dude
[2015-12-09 23:53:48] podizzle3k : haha
[2015-12-09 23:54:02] podizzle3k : two minutes later?
[2015-12-09 23:54:21] wurstgelee : =)
[2015-12-09 23:55:33] habibi : ah sorry :) didnt notice
[2015-12-09 23:57:23] micmix : I can tell you one thing: the early Bitcoin source code points to someone from academia who's not a professional programmer. Most likely studied programming in late 80 - early 90.
[2015-12-09 23:58:15] micmix : I've been doing C++ for 20+ years and worked with ppl who write similar code
[2015-12-10 00:04:45] zanza : micmix: if he has half a brain, they won't be able to seize them
[2015-12-10 00:18:45] sleger : or maybe he doesnt want to spend 20 years in jail
[2015-12-10 00:19:08] laisee : I don't see the guy saying "I am satoshi" exactly,, just that he helped invent Bitcoin.
[2015-12-10 00:37:06] messiaen8844 : hi
[2015-12-10 00:41:51] laisee : howdy
[2015-12-10 00:42:07] messiaen8844 : nice movement from 404 - 420, let's see if we can cross now 420 more convincgly
[2015-12-10 00:43:28] laisee : dips nelow 420 ... :-0
[2015-12-10 00:45:28] messiaen8844 : ranges seem obvious
[2015-12-10 00:45:29] messiaen8844 : https://www.tradingview.com/x/lH5oGMk9/
[2015-12-10 00:48:00] messiaen8844 : better:
[2015-12-10 00:48:01] messiaen8844 : https://www.tradingview.com/x/QwYLU0qw/
[2015-12-10 00:48:39] messiaen8844 : more slow triangle patterns probably
[2015-12-10 00:52:05] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 50 @ 421.04
[2015-12-10 00:56:35] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 1617 @ 420.19
[2015-12-10 00:58:56] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 1000 @ 419.09
[2015-12-10 01:00:54] wurstgelee : btfd
[2015-12-10 01:00:56] wurstgelee : ;)
[2015-12-10 01:02:38] wurstgelee : omg, bots coing crazy?
[2015-12-10 01:02:41] wurstgelee : *going
[2015-12-10 01:41:05] ethexio : whee
[2015-12-10 02:06:06] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 31 @ 417.00
[2015-12-10 02:06:06] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 8060 @ 416.67
[2015-12-10 02:06:07] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 600 @ 417.62
[2015-12-10 02:06:16] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 7633 @ 415.69
[2015-12-10 02:06:26] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 5673 @ 415.69
[2015-12-10 02:14:29] AudibleScience : ethexio: https://youtu.be/o-6HA41F6Lg
[2015-12-10 02:23:41] babybaby : whats going on lol
[2015-12-10 03:03:46] ethexio : AudibleScience: :)
[2015-12-10 03:42:07] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 100 @ 416.78
[2015-12-10 03:49:11] laisee : moar cheap coins hitting the market ...
[2015-12-10 04:26:18] ethexio : bots bonkers
[2015-12-10 04:47:05] ethexio : weekly diverged quite a bit
[2015-12-10 04:51:52] hashman : weekly is cheap
[2015-12-10 04:52:59] laisee : was cheap
[2015-12-10 05:23:01] kingscrown : !balance
[2015-12-10 05:34:47] BitMEX_Wally : kingscrown: You can't trade by IRC yet :)
[2015-12-10 05:38:50] TschavaTschigger : this 24h turnover is fascinating
[2015-12-10 05:41:12] BitMEX_Wally : micmix: We now publish an `id` on each liquidation so you can update the REKT bot to not report duplicates
[2015-12-10 05:44:37] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 200 @ 412.95
[2015-12-10 06:10:03] ayy lmao : lmao
[2015-12-10 06:10:22] ayy lmao : there is a rekt bot now
[2015-12-10 06:18:29] micmix : BitMEX_Wally: thanks Wally, just saw that and updated the bot 5 minutes ago :-)
[2015-12-10 06:18:39] BitMEX_Wally : :)
[2015-12-10 06:20:22] micmix : it will say some funny stuff now from time to time
[2015-12-10 06:20:50] micmix : like MEGA-REKT, MOON TIME and so on
[2015-12-10 06:21:18] gaoMex : micmix: Thanks, helps a lot. :)
[2015-12-10 06:35:58] laisee : micmix: > thanks. maybe keep ATH list of REKT 'winners'?
[2015-12-10 06:49:48] zanza : lol
[2015-12-10 06:51:16] laisee : not the names, of course. though that would be good entertainment ...
[2015-12-10 06:53:01] micmix : laisee: yeah, I might do something like that at some point. too bad names are not published :-)
[2015-12-10 06:56:56] laisee : :-) .. a "REKT winners board"
[2015-12-10 07:15:08] stevelim : I am attending Bitcoin inside conference in Korea.
[2015-12-10 07:26:27] laisee : I am satoshi, apparently.
[2015-12-10 08:00:30] zanza : I am Satoshi
[2015-12-10 08:01:06] wurstgelee : No, I am.
[2015-12-10 08:03:43] zanza : We all are Satoshi
[2015-12-10 08:22:43] laisee : where's my coins, I wonder?
[2015-12-10 08:27:54] zanza : its about FREEDOM
[2015-12-10 08:28:11] zanza : and INDEPENDENCE, not coins @laisee
[2015-12-10 08:38:10] laisee : one Million &btc; == freedom and independence :-/
[2015-12-10 08:38:43] laisee : until taxman finds you and the coins :-(
[2015-12-10 11:33:09] TschavaTschigger : that was an interesting trading day
[2015-12-10 12:23:41] podizzler3k : -_-
[2015-12-10 12:23:48] podizzler3k : liquidation price 1610356.10
[2015-12-10 12:23:52] podizzler3k : im worried
[2015-12-10 12:32:10] habibi : shieet
[2015-12-10 12:32:13] habibi : be careful man
[2015-12-10 12:32:27] habibi : moon is not a joke
[2015-12-10 12:34:54] alb_gt : Hi there, 196 futs XBU I can bid up to 420, any interest ?
[2015-12-10 12:35:17] alb_gt : december, obviously
[2015-12-10 12:36:03] j8 : alb_gt: i can sell `XBTZ15` if you want
[2015-12-10 12:39:03] alb_gt : would prefer XBU thanks
[2015-12-10 12:39:37] alb_gt : XBU is kinda dead...
[2015-12-10 12:41:39] j8 : yeah, most people prefer the higher leverage and lower fees on XBT.
[2015-12-10 12:46:29] sleger : makes no sense to trade xbu so close to maturity
[2015-12-10 12:46:45] alb_gt : I am a bit stuck with a short on XBU... I guess I will have to wait until 125 dec indeed
[2015-12-10 12:47:48] j8 : yup, been stuck there before, which is why i stopped trading it actually. gotta learn the hard way i guess
[2015-12-10 12:48:09] alb_gt : exactly
[2015-12-10 12:50:24] j8 : if you have the margin to spare and it's really going up you might be better off hedging with longs on XBT
[2015-12-10 12:50:47] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 10000 @ 414.65 <b>MEGA-REKT</b>
[2015-12-10 12:51:27] habibi : lel
[2015-12-10 12:51:38] podizzler3k : wut now?
[2015-12-10 12:51:58] habibi : natink! :)
[2015-12-10 13:05:38] REKT : Liquidated short on XBT24H: Buy 2000 @ 417.47
[2015-12-10 13:09:58] REKT : Liquidated short on XBT24H: Buy 30 @ 422.03
[2015-12-10 13:21:51] habibi : BitMEX_Wally: withdraws soon ?
[2015-12-10 13:36:38] messiaen8844 : lol, mega rekt
[2015-12-10 13:38:22] STRML : habibi: They're being broadcast now
[2015-12-10 13:38:36] habibi : STRML: ty for info
[2015-12-10 13:40:37] messiaen8844 : bot could have daily rekt ammount
[2015-12-10 13:40:43] messiaen8844 : longs vs shorters
[2015-12-10 13:40:52] messiaen8844 : so we can do daily metrics on that ;)
[2015-12-10 13:42:17] STRML : Definitely something we'd like to add to the /stats endpoint in the future
[2015-12-10 13:44:24] habibi : hm does electrum doesnt allow to send uncomfirmed coins anymore?
[2015-12-10 13:51:41] STRML : I can't imagine any wallet allowing sending of unconfirmed coins
[2015-12-10 13:51:48] STRML : No node would accept it
[2015-12-10 13:52:59] STRML : Perhaps it could have built-in support for queuing it up once it does confirm, though.
[2015-12-10 13:53:51] habibi : Strml its not about actepting, it was a normal practise back in days like half a year ago, i sent them even not comfirmed and as far as they got comfirmation they got both comfirmed on the my adress and destination
[2015-12-10 13:53:52] habibi : Strml its not about actepting, it was a normal practise back in days like half a year ago, i sent them even not comfirmed and as far as they got comfirmation they got both comfirmed on the my adress and destination
[2015-12-10 13:54:00] habibi : lel sorry for double
[2015-12-10 13:54:42] habibi : i am not sure but i am thinking my trezor did allow me to do it
[2015-12-10 13:54:47] habibi : as well
[2015-12-10 13:55:44] habibi : and thats how some exchanges were working, they were instantly taking off upcoming coins away without comfirmations
[2015-12-10 13:59:28] STRML : I think you may be confused, you can't spend a tx until it has confirmed
[2015-12-10 14:00:25] STRML : Some exchanges were doing instant deposits by either trusting the unconfirmed tx once it had reached a certain % of network propagation, or in the case of Gox, actually taking your privkey and sweeping the wallet
[2015-12-10 14:00:37] STRML : "instant" being a not quite exact term ofc
[2015-12-10 14:03:21] habibi : pmed u on irc
[2015-12-10 14:14:49] STRML : habibi: Sorry, didn't get it, bouncer is acting up
[2015-12-10 15:12:16] j8 : doesn't bitcoin core let you spend unconfirmed change?
[2015-12-10 15:13:56] TschavaTschigger : j8: this would be against pretty much every principle of bitcoin
[2015-12-10 15:14:58] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 596 @ 418.99
[2015-12-10 15:18:12] wurstgelee : @TschavaTschigger you can change required confirmations in your own client ofc, wouldnt help you tho since the transaction would be rejected by other clients/the network
[2015-12-10 15:24:47] habibi : j8: electrum works good with unconfirmed, just first tx was messed up
[2015-12-10 15:27:56] j8 : yeah, i thought it was no problem.
[2015-12-10 15:32:51] TschavaTschigger : BitMEX_Wally: hey, you here?
[2015-12-10 15:40:42] slacknation : spending unconfirmed tx is baked in the protocol, nothing wrong with it
[2015-12-10 15:45:27] habibi : yep, all good. basically u can even change the destination of sent coins or u could in past, using node that accept replace by fee
[2015-12-10 15:46:09] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 987 @ 417.64
[2015-12-10 15:46:38] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT7D: Sell 21 @ 417.05
[2015-12-10 20:19:40] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 407 @ 416.79
[2015-12-10 20:34:40] REKT : Liquidated short on XBT24H: Buy 17643 @ 418.49 <b>MEGA-REKT</b>
[2015-12-10 20:37:00] REKT : Liquidated short on XBT24H: Buy 1500 @ 421.07
[2015-12-10 20:38:00] REKT : Liquidated short on XBT24H: Buy 9826 @ 421.89
[2015-12-10 20:38:15] wurstgelee : the rektoning
[2015-12-10 20:38:34] habibi : actually this bot is pretty usefull
[2015-12-10 20:39:18] zanza : wow the mega rekt
[2015-12-10 20:39:43] zanza : First time spotted in the wild
[2015-12-10 20:40:34] BitMEX_Sam : We've got sticky IDs on those in testnet, will make it to production soon
[2015-12-10 20:41:09] zanza : 31k
[2015-12-10 20:41:12] zanza : order up
[2015-12-10 20:43:12] wurstgelee : wtf is happening
[2015-12-10 20:43:28] wurstgelee : orders $2 below fair price?
[2015-12-10 20:43:54] wurstgelee : k, fair price was stuck
[2015-12-10 20:43:56] wurstgelee : oO
[2015-12-10 21:03:12] TschavaTschigger : BitMEX_Sam: hey sam. If I make withdrawals, is each new withdrawal sent from a different bitcoin address? and if yes (which I suppose), is this unique address somehow relatable to my account from outside?
[2015-12-10 21:04:00] BitMEX_Sam : TschavaTschigger: It's not strictly predictable, we send from whichever address we control has the funds
[2015-12-10 21:04:10] BitMEX_Sam : Optimizing for smaller txs
[2015-12-10 21:04:36] BitMEX_Sam : Each account has a unique deposit address, but there is no outside information relating an address to an individual account
[2015-12-10 21:06:16] TschavaTschigger : ok thanks
[2015-12-10 21:07:23] sleger : smells like tax fraud
[2015-12-10 21:09:08] habibi : do u know tax office that feels comfortable enought to seek into blockchain for users like us?
[2015-12-10 21:14:07] sleger : habibi: what do you mean by "users like us?"
[2015-12-10 21:15:16] habibi : lets say 1-200 btc holders/profit makers
[2015-12-10 21:15:41] sleger : not everyone falls into that category
[2015-12-10 21:15:51] habibi : sorry then
[2015-12-10 21:16:19] sleger : i was just pointing out that his questions were very close to "can I use your exchange to launder bitcoins"
[2015-12-10 21:20:30] TschavaTschigger : lmao.. just because I care about privacy this doesn't mean I don't pay taxes or "launder money"
[2015-12-10 21:20:33] TschavaTschigger : please guys.. really
[2015-12-10 21:21:10] sleger : Sorry, I was not accusing you directly of anything. But wondering what legitimate use there could be to do this.
[2015-12-10 21:21:54] sleger : Transferring from one wallet to another that you can create already anonymize the owner of the bitcoins. What you want to remove here is traceability.
[2015-12-10 21:22:07] habibi : simple:whaat if my gf connects me to my bitmex withdraw address so she will know that i have actually money and lied to her! :D
[2015-12-10 21:22:37] habibi : but still there is no such one adress,bitmex uses deposit addresses as storage ones
[2015-12-10 21:22:57] habibi : i think there is not exchange that do such a thing as u mention TschavaTschigger
[2015-12-10 21:23:04] habibi : no*
[2015-12-10 21:23:39] TschavaTschigger : habibi: yeah, makes sense. it's cool. just wanted to ask how they handle it.
[2015-12-10 21:26:26] habibi : btw i love polish exchanges, we have pretty new option to withdraw money from casual atm's all over the Poland for like 3$/6$ depends on ammount. with no verification at exchanges till 15k eur is passed yearly
[2015-12-10 21:28:01] habibi : just send coins to exchange,sell them, make a atm withdraw, get a pin on telephone, enter it at atm, get money.
[2015-12-10 21:28:33] TschavaTschigger : habibi: wait what? you can withdraw your bitcoins as euro-cash from atm without verification? that's completely insane
[2015-12-10 21:29:05] habibi : basically as a poland zloty, but limits are said in euro due to its european AML and KYC laws
[2015-12-10 21:29:56] habibi : yea, polish exchanges are fighting hard, they used to not require verification, then every single one required, and now its again without on some of them
[2015-12-10 21:30:35] habibi : and thats not insane, thats great. better option than dealing with localbitcoin buyers
[2015-12-10 21:31:44] BitMEX_Sam : That's pretty impressive. There are some ATMs around the US but they usually operate the other way around
[2015-12-10 21:31:51] TschavaTschigger : as soon as there is real money withdrawal involved, every exchange needs to have verification imho
[2015-12-10 21:31:52] BitMEX_Sam : And have a pretty ridiculous spread.
[2015-12-10 21:32:11] habibi : i mean when u do withdraw u enter whole ur data like name/adress and phone number. but its just for 3rd party withdraw company require
[2015-12-10 21:32:14] BitMEX_Sam : In fact, there's one in the Sektor5 space in Wien
[2015-12-10 21:34:08] habibi : TschavaTschigger: daily limits for withdraw are about 3k usd in 5 separate withdraws http://scr.hu/9xvi/6dezm daily volumes on major polish exchanges.
[2015-12-10 21:35:31] habibi : BitMEX_Sam: yep, u just sell coins on the exchange with basically same price atm as on finex or sometimes lower by 2-4 dollars.depends how wild/calm btc price action is
[2015-12-10 21:37:34] TschavaTschigger : on the other hand.. if one wants to sell bitcoins for fiat without identity check, he could just use localbitcoins.com
[2015-12-10 21:39:42] habibi : yep thats the old school way :p but working good as well, just always lower price than exchanges like 3-5% - profit of buyers
[2015-12-10 21:43:09] TschavaTschigger : but honestly, who in here wants to sell btc? we all know bitcoins are the future :P ;)
[2015-12-10 21:43:55] habibi : TschavaTschigger: i dont know man, ask these people http://scr.hu/9xvi/aaphn
[2015-12-10 21:45:45] TschavaTschigger : habibi: they are just hedging cause they have tons of spot
[2015-12-10 21:56:30] podizzler3k : another beautiful day here in seychelles
[2015-12-10 22:56:11] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 1 @ 417.85
[2015-12-10 23:00:27] sleger : ^^ oh rapidtrades got liquidated
[2015-12-10 23:01:40] habibi : shieet, acount wiped
[2015-12-10 23:07:42] wurstgelee : haha :D
[2015-12-10 23:08:00] wurstgelee : bitcoin is a fucking tease tonight
[2015-12-10 23:08:12] wurstgelee : i wants up tho
[2015-12-10 23:08:31] wurstgelee : china should engage soon according to schedule ;)
[2015-12-10 23:28:11] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 1 @ 417.49
[2015-12-10 23:28:21] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 200 @ 417.41
[2015-12-10 23:42:21] podizzler3k : thats ok rapidtrades hedged that 1 contract with an arbitrage. as soon as it fills he'll be back to breakeven
[2015-12-10 23:59:21] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 1388 @ 416.36
[2015-12-11 00:45:43] TschavaTschigger : podizzler3k: lol
[2015-12-11 01:11:21] jung1 : REKT should be gold
[2015-12-11 01:17:09] sleger : colors are given, not chosen
[2015-12-11 01:21:06] jung1 : too bad that theres no 6m ltc contracts
[2015-12-11 01:21:39] jung1 : LTC is much easier to double or ever triple price
[2015-12-11 01:26:40] SnackyCoins : lol
[2015-12-11 01:26:41] SnackyCoins : wat
[2015-12-11 01:26:56] habibi : heh pussy
[2015-12-11 01:26:57] SnackyCoins : aaand it's gone
[2015-12-11 01:27:08] habibi : yea right after i touch it
[2015-12-11 01:27:11] SnackyCoins : i was so tempted to close into that
[2015-12-11 01:27:18] habibi : me too.
[2015-12-11 01:27:19] habibi : a bit
[2015-12-11 01:31:13] jung1 : have you seen that? http://i2.wp.com/www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/2015/12/20151208_btc1_0.jpg
[2015-12-11 01:44:32] REKT : Liquidated short on XBT24H: Buy 2179 @ 422.29
[2015-12-11 01:44:55] jung1 : nice green dildo on huobi
[2015-12-11 01:45:05] ethexio : heck yeah, Haas has most of BitMEX integration working.
[2015-12-11 01:45:24] podizzler3k : shit where did i put my moonboots
[2015-12-11 01:45:28] ethexio : At least orderbooks. Still weirdnesses but it's a good start
[2015-12-11 01:45:56] sleger : lol that's like saying I found a pen, now need to learn how to write
[2015-12-11 01:47:32] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 1000 @ 421.32
[2015-12-11 01:47:42] podizzler3k : haha wow
[2015-12-11 01:47:52] podizzler3k : that was quick
[2015-12-11 01:48:37] messiaen8844 : Drumroll...........
[2015-12-11 01:48:52] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT7D: Sell 200 @ 422.70
[2015-12-11 01:49:26] ethexio : Returning market BitMEX XBT/USD (XBT24H) from 1/1/1970 12:00:00 AM until 1/1/1970 12:00:00 AM (0ms)
[2015-12-11 01:49:32] ethexio : wut
[2015-12-11 01:51:01] habibi : Bitmex - best bitcoin derivatives since 1970
[2015-12-11 01:52:12] sleger : sounds like rapidtrades became an algo
[2015-12-11 01:54:26] jung1 : yup
[2015-12-11 01:54:38] jung1 : bitmex is bitcoin goldman sachs
[2015-12-11 02:02:03] sleger : what does that mean ? GS is a bank not an exchange
[2015-12-11 02:06:21] laisee : Bitmex is the BSD of exchanges
[2015-12-11 02:08:26] laisee : ... for crypto derivs, that is.
[2015-12-11 02:29:09] zanza : I think rapidtrades moved to Finex
[2015-12-11 02:31:56] sleger : you saw a trade for 0.004 btc ?
[2015-12-11 02:32:07] messiaen8844 : zanza: maybe. Do they have a trollbox?
[2015-12-11 02:34:05] podizzler3k : yeah hes on finex now i think we rekt him for good
[2015-12-11 02:34:10] podizzler3k : anyone here on twitter?
[2015-12-11 02:34:24] podizzler3k : follow me @cryptogoblin
[2015-12-11 02:34:28] messiaen8844 : Lets see if rocket to moon leavestoday
[2015-12-11 02:34:49] podizzler3k : https://twitter.com/CryptoGoblin
[2015-12-11 02:35:01] podizzler3k : messiaen8844 target still 2900?
[2015-12-11 02:35:35] messiaen8844 : 2900-3300
[2015-12-11 02:36:32] messiaen8844 : More yuan devalutaion, we got fundamentals...
[2015-12-11 02:39:07] podizzler3k : yep i seen it hit 2.4
[2015-12-11 02:48:40] messiaen8844 : 5h for wchipp settlement
[2015-12-11 02:49:34] messiaen8844 : Someone shared this, cool resource:http://getjumbucks.com/settlement/
[2015-12-11 03:03:40] j8 : get some jumbucks while you're at it!
[2015-12-11 03:05:17] podizzler3k : pff ha
[2015-12-11 03:06:06] jung1 : someone should make guide how to take profit from settlements
[2015-12-11 03:06:17] podizzler3k : im oldschool im still holding my namecoin devcoin ixcoin and tenebrix
[2015-12-11 03:06:24] podizzler3k : gonna moon any day now
[2015-12-11 03:07:21] jung1 : heh oldschool
[2015-12-11 03:07:48] jung1 : Me too
[2015-12-11 03:08:37] jung1 : pump is comming?
[2015-12-11 03:10:00] laisee : still holding DOGE ... woof woof
[2015-12-11 03:10:30] jung1 : but all that pump and dump shitcoins still exist
[2015-12-11 03:10:40] jung1 : I found exchange called yobit
[2015-12-11 03:10:55] jung1 : and they add like one new coin per week
[2015-12-11 03:11:01] micmix : laisee: nice, I'm still shorting DOGE from 100+ satoshi :-)
[2015-12-11 03:11:25] jung1 : today coin called ANAL wa pump around 5500%
[2015-12-11 03:11:42] laisee : micmix> damn, taking pennies from pocket every day ...
[2015-12-11 03:13:03] cekseh : Rekt bot died?
[2015-12-11 03:13:19] micmix : I like pennies, they jingle nicely :-)
[2015-12-11 03:14:02] jung1 : cekseh: nah. rapidtrades go away and everyone else make stoploss
[2015-12-11 03:14:09] jung1 : so theres no margin calls
[2015-12-11 03:14:22] cekseh : Ahh now I get it
[2015-12-11 03:14:29] micmix : no, REKT bot looks good, we cleared all high-margin shorts by now
[2015-12-11 03:14:34] jung1 : micmix: same. But like 2y ago was real wild west of altcoins
[2015-12-11 03:14:57] jung1 : new coin every week
[2015-12-11 03:15:03] jung1 : huge pumps
[2015-12-11 03:15:41] micmix : jung1: yep, I remember. I started trading alts a bit later, March 2014
[2015-12-11 03:16:06] micmix : crazy times, 200% daily P&L :-)
[2015-12-11 03:16:30] jung1 : now most of projects make crowdfunding and then disappear
[2015-12-11 03:16:44] jung1 : then they make coin, pump it and dump it
[2015-12-11 03:16:57] jung1 : free market at it finest
[2015-12-11 03:18:21] micmix : yep, only few ppl are really innovating in the altcoin space. and I think most useful innovations will end in bitcoin anyway
[2015-12-11 03:18:29] micmix : * end up in bitcoin
[2015-12-11 03:19:48] jung1 : I think that bitshares, ethereum, xrp and maybe dash are here to stay
[2015-12-11 03:20:18] jung1 : but people dont want innovation. they need stable, boring coin for everyday use
[2015-12-11 03:20:20] laisee : heh, funny how some bitcoin developers dump on "alt" coins but they take the features into Bitcoin still.
[2015-12-11 03:21:00] jung1 : now is good price for eth imo
[2015-12-11 03:21:18] jung1 : also Im rebought some xrp
[2015-12-11 03:21:41] jung1 : '16 will be awesome
[2015-12-11 03:21:50] jung1 : another pump
[2015-12-11 03:21:53] jung1 : another satoshi
[2015-12-11 03:21:56] laisee : yep, ETH might possibly make it
[2015-12-11 03:24:00] jung1 : and always some new coin could appear. Like applecoin or something from western union/ebay
[2015-12-11 03:26:15] laisee : I believe banks are getting ready for that possibility. Imagine Apple wants to run it's own payment network & coin to do business globally. Game changer .
[2015-12-11 03:28:01] j8 : they already struggle with getting people to use apple pay. how does introducing a new currency help that
[2015-12-11 03:28:50] jung1 : some discount in apple store
[2015-12-11 03:28:53] jung1 : dunno
[2015-12-11 03:29:08] jung1 : but its easier to make coin if you have community
[2015-12-11 03:29:18] jung1 : than make community if you have coin
[2015-12-11 03:29:30] zanza : Moon boys?
[2015-12-11 03:30:11] jung1 : looks like gree dildo soon
[2015-12-11 03:30:33] 24hourz : they can't match btc hashrate of the network
[2015-12-11 03:32:26] zanza : bitcoin hash rate is out of control lately
[2015-12-11 03:32:28] j8 : the gift card industry is alive and well. if there's some solution like coloured coins that reduces costs for them they might do it
[2015-12-11 03:32:55] jung1 : yep
[2015-12-11 03:33:02] laisee : j8> Apple use it for their payments instead of fiat. Large companies/Banks have massive treasury operations that could use netting instead of moving fiat.
[2015-12-11 03:33:33] REKT : Liquidated short on XBT24H: Buy 3750 @ 425.96
[2015-12-11 03:33:55] jung1 : gift cards/tokens/loyality points it doesn not matter if it can transfer value
[2015-12-11 03:35:30] j8 : laisee: but why do it in a currency associated with apple and not something universal?
[2015-12-11 03:37:25] jung1 : look at paypal. they also have something like own currency. they just move numbers into their excel
[2015-12-11 03:37:42] j8 : there is already apple stocks. throwing apple dollars into the mix seems unnecessary.
[2015-12-11 03:38:51] j8 : jung1: sure, apple already has this too
[2015-12-11 03:39:27] laisee : j8> less friction, less cost to run your own currency.
[2015-12-11 03:39:51] jung1 : so you know. Basicly for average citizen there is no need for new currency but better payment system
[2015-12-11 03:40:23] j8 : if it has a floating value, there are spreads / fees at every exchange
[2015-12-11 03:40:30] jung1 : people dont give a fck about economy and how money works
[2015-12-11 03:40:48] jung1 : they just want to move it fast and cheap
[2015-12-11 03:40:55] laisee : yes, but not if you are netting payments internally across your company.
[2015-12-11 03:42:40] laisee : j8> worked in one bank that had to process one Trillion dollars in gross payments each month. Big cost in moving money around inside the bank and managing risk etc.
[2015-12-11 03:43:03] ayy lmao : looks like the bitmex user count has double since a few weeks ago
[2015-12-11 03:43:08] ayy lmao : doubled
[2015-12-11 03:44:15] j8 : ok, wasn't thinking about internal transfers. maybe there's a use case
[2015-12-11 03:50:49] jung1 : ayy lmao: just started
[2015-12-11 03:51:24] 24hourz : about to spring up
[2015-12-11 03:51:29] 24hourz : lego
[2015-12-11 03:56:09] zanza : https://blockchain.info/charts/hash-rate?timespan=2year&showDataPoints=false&daysAverageString=1&show_header=true&scale=0&address=
[2015-12-11 03:56:17] zanza : 1 Exahash coming soon
[2015-12-11 04:02:14] laisee : zanza> surely time to find a new data center
[2015-12-11 04:02:30] 24hourz : here we go
[2015-12-11 04:09:08] podizzler3k : btc getting the rarified slow pump treatment
[2015-12-11 04:09:27] 24hourz : here we go babby
[2015-12-11 04:10:05] 24hourz : bears gonna get rekt
[2015-12-11 04:21:04] zanza : gunna retet 2800
[2015-12-11 04:21:07] zanza : retest
[2015-12-11 05:08:43] podizzler3k : 9 straight greens on the 30m
[2015-12-11 05:20:25] j8 : always sell on the 10th, right
[2015-12-11 05:37:44] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 1000 @ 424.15
[2015-12-11 05:43:27] godweensatan : any news on the new Satoshi?
[2015-12-11 05:44:44] REKT : Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 1700 @ 423.65
[2015-12-11 05:45:17] j8 : possibly affiliated, there seems to be a lot of skepticism around it all
[2015-12-11 05:54:49] j8 : and he might have been targeted by extortionists, https://twitter.com/iang_fc/status/674722847160422400
[2015-12-11 06:02:25] laisee : Will TheRealSatoshi please stand up
[2015-12-11 06:38:49] zanza : who uses twitter to make complex posts lol
[2015-12-11 06:54:22] zanza : when does chipper settle?
[2015-12-11 07:15:01] micmix : zanza: in 45 minutes
[2015-12-11 07:40:45] zanza : we gunna see a chippre dump ?
[2015-12-11 07:56:50] ethexio : shh
[2015-12-11 08:08:01] wurstgelee : nothing happened? :)
[2015-12-11 08:08:22] wurstgelee : cept it seems wanting to pump now
[2015-12-11 08:09:27] ethexio : mmm
[2015-12-11 08:10:15] laisee : much chinese bull.
[2015-12-11 08:12:09] ethexio : whee
[2015-12-11 08:12:25] wurstgelee : WOW
[2015-12-11 08:12:35] REKT : Liquidated short on XBT24H: Buy 4444 @ 426.94
[2015-12-11 08:12:44] thehawthorne : lolololol
[2015-12-11 08:13:17] wurstgelee : fuck
[2015-12-11 08:13:27] wurstgelee : i should have bought when i said it wants to pump oO
[2015-12-11 08:13:53] laisee : song of the day: "the only way is UP"
[2015-12-11 08:14:13] wurstgelee : k, fomo'd
[2015-12-11 08:14:15] wurstgelee : oO
[2015-12-11 08:14:43] laisee : a.k.a. tactical buy
[2015-12-11 08:14:52] wurstgelee : lol, yes
[2015-12-11 08:15:03] wurstgelee : or tactical idiocy
[2015-12-11 08:15:11] wurstgelee : will see soon
[2015-12-11 08:15:26] laisee : a little madness for the bottom line
[2015-12-11 08:16:01] j8 : anyone watch the okc quarterly launch? it was pinned to the limit up
[2015-12-11 08:18:17] wurstgelee : more up
[2015-12-11 08:19:35] SnackyCoins : is there really a 5$ discount here right now
[2015-12-11 08:19:43] wurstgelee : lol dunno
[2015-12-11 08:19:50] wurstgelee : no premium here
[2015-12-11 08:19:50] j8 : bfx diverged
[2015-12-11 08:20:01] wurstgelee : even negative
[2015-12-11 08:21:06] wurstgelee : good suppot on 0kc, good resistance @ hu0bi
[2015-12-11 08:22:20] wurstgelee : #winning
[2015-12-11 08:22:59] cekseh : Stacky its because ppl concerned about settlement
[2015-12-11 08:23:03] cekseh : methinx
[2015-12-11 08:23:08] SnackyCoins : thats hours from now
[2015-12-11 08:23:13] wurstgelee : more than 3 h away here
[2015-12-11 08:23:15] zanza : 430
[2015-12-11 08:23:15] habibi : settlement price is higher then ticker :)
[2015-12-11 08:23:16] SnackyCoins : 24h only averages the last 30 minutes
[2015-12-11 08:23:16] zanza : wtf
[2015-12-11 08:23:16] cekseh : I know
[2015-12-11 08:23:36] cekseh : Only thing I can think of that people kept selling it down below 430
[2015-12-11 08:24:30] zanza : think we might se 600's
[2015-12-11 08:24:36] zanza : in the next few months
[2015-12-11 08:25:40] coolcatgee : cheap coins maybe?
[2015-12-11 08:25:56] cekseh : Could happen in the next week or so too
[2015-12-11 08:26:01] cekseh : Could could could =)
[2015-12-11 08:26:29] habibi : leeeg up
[2015-12-11 08:26:35] coolcatgee : im not gonna lie i took some profit at $430, 10%
[2015-12-11 08:26:38] wurstgelee : whats wrong with all that negative premium here? oO
[2015-12-11 08:26:45] wurstgelee : k, fixed
[2015-12-11 08:26:45] cekseh : idk
[2015-12-11 08:26:51] habibi : wurstgelee: simple . too many longers
[2015-12-11 08:26:58] wurstgelee : nah, chickens
[2015-12-11 08:27:18] coolcatgee : just reloading for any dips
[2015-12-11 08:27:23] micmix : ppl were selling a lot, so MMs lowered their bids
[2015-12-11 08:27:30] micmix : will go up now
[2015-12-11 08:27:51] wurstgelee : yep
[2015-12-11 08:27:54] habibi : not much rekt tho
[2015-12-11 08:28:21] micmix : no one left to rekt :-)
[2015-12-11 08:28:38] coolcatgee : MM's made too much REKT Longs last months run up, gave them a little too much buffer
[2015-12-11 08:28:48] cekseh : I rather dislike making money right before bed
[2015-12-11 08:28:54] micmix : everyone on isolated margin already rekt :-)
[2015-12-11 08:28:56] cekseh : Makes it harder to sleep
[2015-12-11 08:28:56] coolcatgee : no sleep?
[2015-12-11 08:29:00] coolcatgee : lol
[2015-12-11 08:29:04] wurstgelee : micmix: inot if youre long :p
[2015-12-11 08:29:12] cekseh : Just wanna stay up all night watching charts =)
[2015-12-11 08:29:19] coolcatgee : just like at the casino, you can't sleep after playing all night
[2015-12-11 08:29:32] cekseh : You can play isolated if you add margin and set stops
[2015-12-11 08:29:34] habibi : this walls on okc still
[2015-12-11 08:29:36] cekseh : no need to get rekt
[2015-12-11 08:29:37] cekseh : =)
[2015-12-11 08:29:40] habibi : looks very buulllish
[2015-12-11 08:29:42] habibi : very.
[2015-12-11 08:30:02] micmix : cekseh: sure you can, but not everyone is playing smart
[2015-12-11 08:30:29] habibi : or u simply play low leveraged cross
[2015-12-11 08:30:40] cekseh : what was the largest margin call on this move
[2015-12-11 08:30:46] habibi : so u wont get rekt if u wont be afraid of closing bad positions
[2015-12-11 08:31:23] wurstgelee : well, that tactical/fomo buying turned out to be great
[2015-12-11 08:31:25] micmix : let me check @cekseh
[2015-12-11 08:31:41] cekseh : If folks wanted low margin they would use finex
[2015-12-11 08:31:43] cekseh : =)
[2015-12-11 08:32:32] coolcatgee : ready to BTFD?
[2015-12-11 08:33:10] zanza : 2800 broken
[2015-12-11 08:33:25] habibi : :D
[2015-12-11 08:33:30] habibi : nice reaction
[2015-12-11 08:33:49] wurstgelee : which dip? oO
[2015-12-11 08:34:08] coolcatgee : on the 30min maybe?
[2015-12-11 08:34:27] coolcatgee : I'm only 5x leverage would like more
[2015-12-11 08:35:01] coolcatgee : maybe no dip :(
[2015-12-11 08:35:07] coolcatgee : FOMO?
[2015-12-11 08:35:26] wurstgelee : no signs of dip yet
[2015-12-11 08:36:27] micmix : largest today Liquidated short on XBT24H: Buy 17643 @ 418.49 <b>MEGA-REKT</b>
[2015-12-11 08:37:38] habibi : i am waiting for 50+k liqs
[2015-12-11 08:37:49] habibi : i would love to be a presenter of it
[2015-12-11 08:38:01] habibi : but i will wait rather for someone else
[2015-12-11 08:38:40] cekseh : ballsy to take a position that big on finex, rekt yourself trying to get out of it if you are in trouble
[2015-12-11 08:38:45] cekseh : on bitmex*
[2015-12-11 08:39:15] laisee : 17k is whaling it here.
[2015-12-11 08:39:24] laisee : waiting to be harpooned ...
[2015-12-11 08:39:39] cekseh : .87btc worth of leverage, that contract that got liquidated
[2015-12-11 08:39:48] cekseh : assuming it was 100x
[2015-12-11 08:39:49] habibi : if we wall now
[2015-12-11 08:39:54] habibi : we will see nice liquidations
[2015-12-11 08:40:01] wurstgelee : i had positions of equal size during that first run up to $500 tho
[2015-12-11 08:40:07] wurstgelee : and i am no whale
[2015-12-11 08:40:09] habibi : cekseh: there is no other leverage than 100x
[2015-12-11 08:40:15] habibi : so always its 0.87 on 24h
[2015-12-11 08:40:17] cekseh : ^lol
[2015-12-11 08:40:41] cekseh : You can use whatever leverage you want
[2015-12-11 08:40:45] cekseh : protip
[2015-12-11 08:40:53] habibi : pro tip: still it will be 100x leverage
[2015-12-11 08:41:00] wurstgelee : yep
[2015-12-11 08:41:09] wurstgelee : its always 100x
[2015-12-11 08:41:25] habibi : just u wont get liquidated at 150%/
[2015-12-11 08:41:31] habibi : or 50% whatever
[2015-12-11 08:41:35] wurstgelee : it might only be lower relative to your whole account
[2015-12-11 08:41:50] habibi : but thanks for protip cekseh! :)
[2015-12-11 08:41:52] cekseh : Alright =)
[2015-12-11 08:41:53] micmix : well the UI shows actual leverage that's lowere than 100x
[2015-12-11 08:41:55] cekseh : Anytime
[2015-12-11 08:42:23] cekseh : Just cause you can use up to 100x doesn't mean you need to
[2015-12-11 08:42:27] habibi : its juust backed by whole account, but leverage is shown here
[2015-12-11 08:42:49] coolcatgee : this might be all the dip we get... china premium rising at 2.27%
[2015-12-11 08:43:01] coolcatgee : 2.31%
[2015-12-11 08:43:29] habibi : i hate when pumps are not long time before settlement
[2015-12-11 08:43:49] habibi : people are scared to buy with big premium
[2015-12-11 08:43:53] habibi : or with any like atm
[2015-12-11 08:43:58] micmix : it wasn't a bad dip, my MM reduced its short position by 50% on that dip
[2015-12-11 08:44:36] coolcatgee : and thats why your doing good :)
[2015-12-11 08:45:16] micmix : I'm giving you all longers free money :-)
[2015-12-11 08:45:52] coolcatgee : I'm sure you'll find another short entry and get it all back ;)
[2015-12-11 08:46:18] coolcatgee : +15%
[2015-12-11 08:46:58] micmix : no, not without hedging on those pumps
[2015-12-11 08:48:14] habibi : micmix: dont worry, u earn when sideways and choop choop
[2015-12-11 08:48:21] habibi : we do some money now
[2015-12-11 08:48:29] habibi : exchange earns all the time :D
[2015-12-11 08:49:34] zanza : did the interface here change?
[2015-12-11 08:49:37] micmix : yeah, you earn on sideways and you earn on big moves as well with proper hedging
[2015-12-11 08:49:41] zanza : within the past 20 minutes
[2015-12-11 08:51:52] zanza : or did i click a wrong button
[2015-12-11 08:52:00] cekseh : No, did you change your window size?
[2015-12-11 08:52:17] zanza : cekseh: yeah, that was it
[2015-12-11 08:52:27] zanza : it brough up a new order interface I never seen before
[2015-12-11 08:52:36] zanza : interesting
[2015-12-11 08:52:39] coolcatgee : honestly glad the exchange earns money, just as long as they keep the DDOS away
[2015-12-11 08:53:03] zanza : coolcatgee: which exchange?
[2015-12-11 08:53:09] cekseh : Not much of a target atm
[2015-12-11 08:53:13] coolcatgee : BitMEX