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<< >> English 中文 Русский 한국어 日本語 Español Français [2015-12-09 03:38:23] zanza : that `10k liquidation is gone [2015-12-09 03:38:34] lockhedge : got a new finex ticker <code>{"bid":"424.0","ask":"424.3","timestamp":"1449632241.291837101","status":"ok","mid":422.155,"premium":-1.15}</CODE> [2015-12-09 03:39:27] j8 : lockhedge: so you use the virtual price with a lower weight? how do you deweight [2015-12-09 03:43:01] podizzler3000 : messiaen8844 looks good [2015-12-09 03:43:10] podizzler3000 : bbrox zone haha [2015-12-09 03:44:12] messiaen8844 : changed now to bearrekt zone,, because i actually like bbrox and I think he trolls a lot [2015-12-09 03:46:38] messiaen8844 : just came home, still have to absorb more about the satoshi stuff... 2020 locked funds seems bullish [2015-12-09 03:47:28] lockhedge : j8: actually i only virtually de-weight because the index price would move just b/c of this de-weighting process depending on the premium/discount of this exchange. so i bridge the outage time with a virtual price (based on the price movements of the other exchanges, but it assumes that the premium/discount and spread of the virtually de-weighted exchange stays the same) [2015-12-09 03:48:42] SnackyCoins : http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/dec/09/bitcoin-founder-craig-wrights-home-raided-by-australian-police?CMP=twt_a-technology_b-gdntech [2015-12-09 03:49:54] j8 : lockhedge: ok, makes sense. i'm gonna do my own implementation and put it beside the other numbers i watch [2015-12-09 03:50:59] j8 : already have the data coming in so it's easy. [2015-12-09 03:51:58] podizzler3000 : lol they arrested him already? [2015-12-09 03:53:38] lockhedge : maybe he knew about his tax problems (a coming arrest) and leaked the info about his identity as part of his insurance policy [2015-12-09 03:54:19] messiaen8844 : triangle predictive power in bitcoin, gave exactly the time of break 24 hours ago: https://www.tradingview.com/x/BRfnFnaX/ [2015-12-09 03:55:11] lockhedge : interesting, that he deleted his twitter and google+ accounts only some hours ago (maybe his lawyer who now has hi passwords....) [2015-12-09 03:55:18] podizzler3000 : The ATO ruled in December 2014 that cryptocurrency should be considered an asset for capital gains tax purposes. [2015-12-09 03:55:24] podizzler3000 : turns out satoshi owes some back taxes [2015-12-09 03:55:28] podizzler3000 : yikes [2015-12-09 03:55:36] messiaen8844 : any saved tweets before deletion? [2015-12-09 03:56:00] messiaen8844 : sounds like he will enrich his country ;P [2015-12-09 03:56:16] podizzler3000 : yeah the one where he talks about solving the scaling problem [2015-12-09 03:58:07] lockhedge : https://twitter.com/iang_fc/status/644217145769992192 [2015-12-09 03:58:29] 24hourz : alleged satoshi's house raided http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/dec/09/bitcoin-founder-craig-wrights-home-raided-by-australian-police [2015-12-09 04:03:00] micmix : imagine what would happen when Australian government seizes his coins and starts auctioning them to pay back taxes that he owned [2015-12-09 04:04:35] REKT : <b>REKT</b> Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 1000 @ 422.54 [2015-12-09 04:04:35] REKT : <b>REKT</b> Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 1500 @ 422.78 [2015-12-09 04:04:35] REKT : <b>REKT</b> Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 10000 @ 423.22 [2015-12-09 04:04:35] REKT : <b>REKT</b> Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 60 @ 422.79 [2015-12-09 04:04:45] REKT : <b>REKT</b> Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 12560 @ 421.56 [2015-12-09 04:05:05] REKT : <b>REKT</b> Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 12560 @ 420.24 [2015-12-09 04:05:15] REKT : <b>REKT</b> Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 6636 @ 420.24 [2015-12-09 04:05:35] REKT : <b>REKT</b> Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 1980 @ 420.62 [2015-12-09 04:05:45] REKT : <b>REKT</b> Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 1519 @ 419.57 [2015-12-09 04:06:37] messiaen8844 : chopzone fun [2015-12-09 04:10:50] messiaen8844 : micmix: tip address por REKTbo [2015-12-09 04:13:08] HotDogs : 3BMEXWsu4CEzbdYocHi7JdkwRrzpn1dFA2 [2015-12-09 04:13:33] micmix : messiaen8844: enjoy, no tips needed [2015-12-09 04:15:30] micmix : HotDogs: thanks for positing your address, now we know that you got 50BTC on BitMEX [2015-12-09 04:15:54] HotDogs : micmix: I need moar [2015-12-09 04:17:06] micmix : for security reasons plz don't do that, now some hacker has your username and knows how much you have in your account [2015-12-09 04:20:32] SnackyCoins : lots more than i have in mine 8) [2015-12-09 04:20:37] SnackyCoins : for now :) [2015-12-09 04:24:08] messiaen8844 : wish I could use trade 50 BTC for margin ;), but I only trade a part of my HODLing [2015-12-09 04:25:46] habibi : get rekt or die trying? [2015-12-09 04:27:40] messiaen8844 : if it reaches my target I will end up about 15BTC up on 7D... not bad [2015-12-09 04:41:04] messiaen8844 : if bitcoin gets massive media in the next few hours we may see another bubble movement. Mystery creator found, won't drop coins soon, best-performing currency of 2015, technology endorsed by banks, overstock SEC filling, very important chart bullish reversals happening... good luck shorting this [2015-12-09 04:45:54] 24hourz : yes. Plus we broke on the upside of a really long term pennant [2015-12-09 05:03:25] ethexio : yow [2015-12-09 05:08:27] podizzler3000 : messiaen8844 you forgot immeidately arrested for tax evasion [2015-12-09 05:08:38] podizzler3000 : probably will be linked to isis by noon [2015-12-09 05:08:57] messiaen8844 : the FUD is the dip [2015-12-09 05:20:39] zanza : messiaen8844: Winklevoss ETF, Gemini [2015-12-09 05:22:03] HotDogs : zanza: you have some news [2015-12-09 05:22:06] HotDogs : or a link about that? [2015-12-09 05:22:21] zanza : moon [2015-12-09 05:22:28] zanza : once it happens [2015-12-09 05:22:32] zanza : im j/k [2015-12-09 05:22:41] HotDogs : yeah those clowns aren't getting an et [2015-12-09 05:22:45] HotDogs : et [2015-12-09 05:23:39] sleger : et... [2015-12-09 05:23:52] HotDogs : et... phone home f [2015-12-09 05:24:04] macios15 : up we go [2015-12-09 05:28:58] zanza : I believe this AU guy is satoshi [2015-12-09 05:29:01] zanza : or affiliated [2015-12-09 05:29:16] zanza : hes a boss, has the 14 fastest super computer in his house [2015-12-09 05:36:12] SnackyCoins : nom [2015-12-09 05:36:13] SnackyCoins : nom [2015-12-09 05:42:00] messiaen8844 : zanza: media gold, guy creates digital money to challenge banks. get rich, uses it to pursue his original vision. A myth is created and bitcoin becomes the coolest thing ever.. amidst warnings of imminent financial crisis [2015-12-09 05:42:56] messiaen8844 : that's more attractive than getting arested for taxes [2015-12-09 05:45:31] messiaen8844 : I'll keep an eye on google hourly new items about bitcoin [2015-12-09 05:47:29] messiaen8844 : two main types of articles. 1 = creator raided by police 2 = creator possibly found. let's see what prevails in a few days :) [2015-12-09 05:49:57] slacknation : guy so eager to impress but stays silent as satoshi for 6 years lol [2015-12-09 05:53:02] slacknation : he probably published 100s of papers, but chose to keep the bitcoin paper anon? lol [2015-12-09 06:03:52] zanza : well, he has like 3 Ph.D's [2015-12-09 06:03:59] zanza : so hes not just some scam artist con job [2015-12-09 06:04:21] zanza : but, I believe he said he was part of a 'team' [2015-12-09 06:07:06] REKT : <b>REKT</b> Liquidated short on XBT7D: Buy 1530 @ 428.02 [2015-12-09 06:07:16] REKT : <b>REKT</b> Liquidated short on XBT7D: Buy 30 @ 428.66 [2015-12-09 06:09:21] messiaen8844 : 2900s here we come [2015-12-09 06:11:46] hashman : need trailing stop loss [2015-12-09 06:13:40] slacknation : he's probably fairly wealthy and accomplished guy, just lacking some recognition/fame, u know [2015-12-09 06:14:56] REKT : <b>REKT</b> Liquidated short on XBT7D: Buy 1000 @ 428.84 [2015-12-09 06:15:52] slacknation : REKT: where do u see that? [2015-12-09 06:16:06] REKT : <b>REKT</b> Liquidated short on XBT7D: Buy 41 @ 428.99 [2015-12-09 06:21:50] micmix : it's my bot, gets data from https://www.bitmex.com/api/v1/order/liquidations [2015-12-09 06:22:58] slacknation : oh ok nice [2015-12-09 06:24:26] REKT : <b>REKT</b> Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 800 @ 423.58 [2015-12-09 06:45:36] REKT : <b>REKT</b> Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 10324 @ 420.87 [2015-12-09 06:45:46] REKT : <b>REKT</b> Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 1040 @ 419.87 [2015-12-09 06:48:06] REKT : <b>REKT</b> Liquidated long on XBT7D: Sell 5520 @ 423.23 [2015-12-09 06:48:16] REKT : <b>REKT</b> Liquidated long on XBT7D: Sell 5520 @ 421.16 [2015-12-09 06:48:36] REKT : <b>REKT</b> Liquidated long on XBT7D: Sell 3012 @ 420.80 [2015-12-09 06:48:55] hashman : wtf at 7d [2015-12-09 06:48:56] REKT : <b>REKT</b> Liquidated long on XBT7D: Sell 504 @ 420.06 [2015-12-09 06:49:01] hashman : cheap contracjs? [2015-12-09 06:49:06] SnackyCoins : 8) [2015-12-09 06:49:28] micmix : 7D cheaper than 24H [2015-12-09 06:50:32] slacknation : so arbitrage? [2015-12-09 06:56:32] slacknation : micmix: the liquidations api returns blank, can u help with an eg of a link with correct parameters? [2015-12-09 06:57:24] micmix : the api returns current unfilled liquidation orders, when the order is sold it returns an empty array [2015-12-09 06:58:47] slacknation : oh ok then [2015-12-09 07:57:37] REKT : <b>REKT</b> Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 4667 @ 418.81 [2015-12-09 07:58:12] rapidtrades : nice [2015-12-09 07:59:20] rapidtrades : it has its own username name [2015-12-09 07:59:30] rapidtrades : *now [2015-12-09 08:03:07] micmix : yeah, I put the bot on a separate account [2015-12-09 08:03:17] micmix : and REKT wasn't taken [2015-12-09 08:03:27] rapidtrades : nice [2015-12-09 08:03:43] rapidtrades : it wasn't? I can't imagine why [2015-12-09 08:04:22] rapidtrades : micmix: and how are u/ur bots doing this fine morning sir? [2015-12-09 08:08:58] rapidtrades : china reference rate weakest since 2011@bloomberg [2015-12-09 08:09:07] REKT : <b>REKT</b> Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 4000 @ 418.14 [2015-12-09 08:09:23] rapidtrades : yezz [2015-12-09 08:09:27] REKT : <b>REKT</b> Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 1500 @ 417.90 [2015-12-09 08:09:28] REKT : <b>REKT</b> Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 10000 @ 417.90 [2015-12-09 08:13:04] micmix : my MM here had big short position, closing slowly now. in red now but will be in green most likely [2015-12-09 08:13:37] REKT : <b>REKT</b> Liquidated long on XBT7D: Sell 500 @ 419.69 [2015-12-09 08:17:32] rapidtrades : micmix: ok cool [2015-12-09 08:17:58] rapidtrades : are the two orderbooks on finex seperate? exchange vs marhin trading? [2015-12-09 08:18:09] micmix : same books [2015-12-09 08:18:21] rapidtrades : so placing an order would the same on both? [2015-12-09 08:18:35] micmix : yes, it's one book [2015-12-09 08:18:38] rapidtrades : in terms of liquidty/execution [2015-12-09 08:18:41] rapidtrades : thanks [2015-12-09 08:18:55] podizzler3000 : rapidtrades are you switching to finex now? [2015-12-09 08:21:14] zanza : rapidtrades: ? [2015-12-09 08:24:53] podizzler3000 : ok got my buy orders for $411 [2015-12-09 08:24:59] podizzler3000 : on weekly [2015-12-09 08:25:27] rapidtrades : when.... [2015-12-09 08:29:44] zanza : rofl weekyl [2015-12-09 08:29:45] zanza : gl [2015-12-09 08:45:17] REKT : <b>REKT</b> Liquidated short on XBT24H: Buy 633 @ 418.81 [2015-12-09 09:20:17] rapidtrades : stupid chinese need to learn that u can put ur money elsewhere bedies ponzi schemes [2015-12-09 09:21:08] rapidtrades : oh noes...the gov devalued my shit currency by 0.05%.....better stock up on that bitcoin...srsly how stupid can u get [2015-12-09 09:26:46] justinlooking : hello troops - we gunna tear it up today? [2015-12-09 09:26:54] TschavaTschigger : just wanted to say good morning too [2015-12-09 09:29:42] zanza : TschavaTschigger: hi [2015-12-09 09:29:46] zanza : 500 retest in sights [2015-12-09 09:29:56] rapidtrades : sure buddy [2015-12-09 09:30:12] zanza : 1 mil bitcoins of satoshi are locked up until 2020 [2015-12-09 09:30:15] zanza : so price is safe [2015-12-09 09:30:27] zanza : for 5 years [2015-12-09 09:30:33] rapidtrades : according to some stupid wired article [2015-12-09 09:30:41] rapidtrades : wired, the beacon of journalism [2015-12-09 09:30:56] zanza : its legit [2015-12-09 09:31:12] podizzler3000 : theyre not locked up [2015-12-09 09:31:22] rapidtrades : they're f*cked up [2015-12-09 09:31:36] podizzler3000 : the guy died and the clause said 15 months after his death they would go to wright [2015-12-09 09:31:42] podizzler3000 : he died over 2 years ago [2015-12-09 09:31:43] rapidtrades : hehe [2015-12-09 09:32:16] zanza : reddit said it was locked in 5 signature multisig [2015-12-09 09:32:31] rapidtrades : reddit are a bunch of 15y olds [2015-12-09 09:32:44] rapidtrades : they don't know shit bout shit [2015-12-09 09:35:22] rapidtrades : I'm wasting my time with these arbs...they're not worth my time/money [2015-12-09 09:58:50] TschavaTschigger : my bot got stuck in a short while MMing last night... -0.25 btc just on this one trade :( [2015-12-09 10:08:47] justinlooking : shit :-/ you were long 10k @ 400 tho right? [2015-12-09 10:10:03] TschavaTschigger : yeah but didn't cash in the whole way... however, still profitable comfortably, still bugs me because it was clearly bad bot logic [2015-12-09 10:10:07] TschavaTschigger : already fixing it [2015-12-09 10:14:35] TschavaTschigger : i am just puzzled about how other make 6k MM orders work. seems like a huge risk to get caught since offloading 6k is not that easy. [2015-12-09 10:20:32] justinlooking : my guess would be they hedge with okc futures [2015-12-09 10:20:41] TschavaTschigger : maybe [2015-12-09 10:20:54] TschavaTschigger : got 260k volume since last settlement, wonder how much these 6k bots have [2015-12-09 10:20:58] justinlooking : and make sure to keep accounts well funded [2015-12-09 10:23:02] HotDogs : Could be hedging with spot [2015-12-09 10:23:05] HotDogs : earn the premium [2015-12-09 11:02:43] jung1 : https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/674419223633010688 [2015-12-09 11:03:17] rapidtrades : wkileaks is BS [2015-12-09 11:04:36] jung1 : REKT: REKT Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 10000 @ 417.90 [2015-12-09 11:04:37] jung1 : ouch [2015-12-09 11:04:48] podizzler3000 : so wired is bs, wikileaks is bs, and reddit is bs [2015-12-09 11:05:53] jung1 : but wright is fucked up now. police/cia etc will want to catch him [2015-12-09 11:06:19] jung1 : he is celebrity now and if he stay alive now he will be richest person ever [2015-12-09 11:07:19] rapidtrades : why wold the cia wan to catch some australian who created bitcoin...that's quit a stretcch [2015-12-09 11:07:44] rapidtrades : bitcoin is not banned in any major country [2015-12-09 11:08:35] jung1 : guy who owns bitstamp is in jail because of money laundering [2015-12-09 11:08:52] rapidtrades : no he isn't [2015-12-09 11:08:58] rapidtrades : that was bitinstant stupid [2015-12-09 11:09:12] jung1 : so I think for them guy who own bitcoin is not innocent [2015-12-09 11:09:15] jung1 : right [2015-12-09 11:09:28] rapidtrades : he knowingly laundered money tho [2015-12-09 11:09:32] rapidtrades : he f admitted to it [2015-12-09 11:10:13] rapidtrades : I don't think that should be prosecuted ...police should go after the crime that created the money....but it's not like it was a witch hunt [2015-12-09 11:10:24] rapidtrades : he broke the law [2015-12-09 11:13:12] lockhedge : jung1: Bitinstant was a non registered money service business without any KYC/AML procedures; Mining Bitcoin or writing code is not a crime - he just seem to have tax issues (and probably he has the money to solve them) [2015-12-09 11:14:08] rapidtrades : australian tax issues btw [2015-12-09 11:19:49] TschavaTschigger : drop incoming [2015-12-09 11:24:32] rapidtrades : let's hope it happens during calc [2015-12-09 11:25:05] TschavaTschigger : hm, only 50c, not that big of a drop... interesting [2015-12-09 11:25:34] rapidtrades : yeah sooo interesting [2015-12-09 11:26:03] rapidtrades : GO BITCOIN U LIL B1TCH [2015-12-09 11:31:15] rapidtrades : dam police raided his house...wtf [2015-12-09 11:31:28] rapidtrades : wired u POS [2015-12-09 11:32:56] TschavaTschigger : reddit comment: This is better than swatting. "Hello police? Dude in Apt 34b is Satoshi Nakamoto!" click [2015-12-09 11:33:30] rapidtrades : it's not like he's gonna keep 1 bil BTC in his house...is he [2015-12-09 11:33:46] rapidtrades : then again we had ross [2015-12-09 11:34:54] habibi : read the article u rapidnoob, funds will be released to him at 2020, so far he doesnt have them [2015-12-09 11:35:20] rapidtrades : no u read it [2015-12-09 11:35:47] habibi : and not 1 bilion, milion [2015-12-09 11:35:59] rapidtrades : go f urself [2015-12-09 11:42:55] TschavaTschigger : wut [2015-12-09 11:44:13] TschavaTschigger : finex 426 [2015-12-09 11:44:38] REKT : <b>REKT</b> Liquidated short on XBT7D: Buy 100 @ 431.57 [2015-12-09 11:45:06] haxmb : hey guys, any admin here? [2015-12-09 11:45:19] BitMEX_Wally : haxmb: Hello [2015-12-09 11:45:33] haxmb : yay Hey BitMEX_Wally [2015-12-09 11:45:40] haxmb : im having some troubles with API [2015-12-09 11:45:51] BitMEX_Wally : How can I help? [2015-12-09 11:45:54] haxmb : could you help me out? [2015-12-09 11:46:22] BitMEX_Wally : What issues are you seeing? [2015-12-09 11:46:44] haxmb : im generating a GET request for orderbook [2015-12-09 11:46:52] haxmb : and the sig and dheaders look goodd [2015-12-09 11:47:01] haxmb : but i'm getting Signature not valid error [2015-12-09 11:47:25] BitMEX_Wally : You don't need to sign for the order book, it's public data [2015-12-09 11:47:45] haxmb : oh shit my bad [2015-12-09 11:47:53] haxmb : getting a working call now [2015-12-09 11:47:57] BitMEX_Wally : :) [2015-12-09 11:48:00] haxmb : seems [2015-12-09 11:48:07] haxmb : that the bitmex-api NPM library [2015-12-09 11:48:11] haxmb : is outdated as f*ck [2015-12-09 11:48:41] haxmb : https://bitmex.com:443 is the url it uses [2015-12-09 11:49:14] BitMEX_Wally : That should be the same as www.bitmex.com [2015-12-09 11:49:36] haxmb : changed it and now rosk [2015-12-09 11:49:52] haxmb : works* [2015-12-09 11:51:01] BitMEX_Wally : The NPM library might be from a third party [2015-12-09 11:51:02] haxmb : that npm lib signs public requests too for some reason [2015-12-09 11:51:17] haxmb : yeah it id [2015-12-09 11:51:20] haxmb : is [2015-12-09 11:51:48] BitMEX_Wally : I'll check with BitMEX_Sam but signing public requests should be ok, as you get a higher rate limit when authenticated [2015-12-09 11:52:23] haxmb : ok thats good [2015-12-09 11:52:28] haxmb : whats the auth rate limit? [2015-12-09 11:52:36] haxmb : because i could only find 300/5min [2015-12-09 11:52:55] BitMEX_Wally : Yeah it's 300/5 min but we can increase it if needed [2015-12-09 11:52:59] BitMEX_Wally : On a per user basis [2015-12-09 11:53:31] haxmb : ok but you said "as you get a higher rate limit when authenticated" :p [2015-12-09 11:53:46] haxmb : and how does it calc? [2015-12-09 11:53:52] haxmb : is it a sliding window? [2015-12-09 11:54:01] haxmb : or does it reduce by 1 per second? [2015-12-09 11:54:34] BitMEX_Wally : The un-authenticated rate limit might be less than 300 [2015-12-09 11:54:38] BitMEX_Wally : I'm not sure of the top of my head [2015-12-09 11:55:07] haxmb : ok [2015-12-09 11:55:13] haxmb : and how does it work? [2015-12-09 11:55:18] sleger : So Satoshi supposed dead, his coins are supposed to be lost and that's why price shoot up ? [2015-12-09 11:55:23] haxmb : sliding window / counter / reduction [2015-12-09 11:55:25] haxmb : ? [2015-12-09 11:55:26] haxmb : =) [2015-12-09 11:55:43] BitMEX_Wally : ``` "x-ratelimit-reset": "1449662161", "x-ratelimit-limit": "300", "x-ratelimit-remaining": "299" ``` [2015-12-09 11:55:55] BitMEX_Wally : You should get headers back like this [2015-12-09 11:57:43] haxmb : oh nice [2015-12-09 11:59:49] laisee : sleger> gotta be a good conspiracy on this "re-appearnce" right now. [2015-12-09 12:06:14] rapidtrades : boom look at that premium [2015-12-09 12:06:25] sleger : its small [2015-12-09 12:06:40] rapidtrades : it's enough to keep me above water :) [2015-12-09 12:18:39] REKT : <b>REKT</b> Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 10000 @ 422.85 [2015-12-09 12:18:49] REKT : <b>REKT</b> Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 200 @ 422.61 [2015-12-09 12:18:58] habibi : even death body can be above the water [2015-12-09 12:18:59] REKT : <b>REKT</b> Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 461 @ 421.71 [2015-12-09 12:21:57] rapidtrades : rekt already? [2015-12-09 12:22:08] rapidtrades : don't max out ur leverage ppl [2015-12-09 12:22:57] habibi : its isolated margin u stupid ! :) [2015-12-09 12:23:55] habibi : one click and 80% chance that sideways moves will kick u out of game [2015-12-09 12:38:14] macios15 : DROP? [2015-12-09 12:43:15] messiaen8844 : https://www.tradingview.com/x/2X5IZJPc/ [2015-12-09 12:46:08] messiaen8844 : to me it`s support now [2015-12-09 12:46:09] messiaen8844 : (was) [2015-12-09 12:47:44] messiaen8844 : targets 2780 - 2810- 2920 [2015-12-09 12:49:28] messiaen8844 : it`s all symmetrical play [2015-12-09 12:50:08] messiaen8844 : one sell sign in the past becomes a buy signal of equal force in the present [2015-12-09 12:51:46] macios15 : messiaen8844: 1m ema didnt even recover [2015-12-09 12:52:00] macios15 : messiaen8844: dont be soo sure [2015-12-09 12:53:17] macios15 : messiaen8844: its clearly upside but could cut to even 2,7k [2015-12-09 12:54:36] messiaen8844 : that was my initial scenario, thought we would bounce more around the supports and resistances [2015-12-09 12:55:56] messiaen8844 : but momentum seems still strong to reach 2900 then retrace [2015-12-09 12:56:30] messiaen8844 : daily RSI still has space [2015-12-09 12:57:31] messiaen8844 : also, I am focusing on larger time frames, 24h analysis may be very different [2015-12-09 12:59:34] podizzler3k : rapidtrades how did shorting that $2 premium work out for you yesterday [2015-12-09 12:59:55] podizzler3k : did the price move up $2? i didnt check [2015-12-09 13:00:22] podizzler3k : those idiots paying $2 extra wow when will they learn [2015-12-09 13:00:28] rapidtrades : it would've worked out fine if finex DIDN'T CRASH...anyway done with that shit now [2015-12-09 13:00:43] podizzler3k : yeah that was some shady shit tbh [2015-12-09 13:00:46] podizzler3k : i wonder who was ddosing them [2015-12-09 13:00:49] podizzler3k : bet it came from china [2015-12-09 13:01:16] rapidtrades : yeah we crashed right as I clicked the buy button to hedge [2015-12-09 13:01:19] messiaen8844 : rapidtrades: that was the triangle`s revenge for being a non-believer. they are mercyless [2015-12-09 13:01:22] rapidtrades : worst timing ever [2015-12-09 13:04:53] podizzler3k : that triangle could have broke downward too [2015-12-09 13:05:20] messiaen8844 : indeed, there was a big line from 500 pointing to that top [2015-12-09 13:05:21] podizzler3k : in a traditional market maybe [2015-12-09 13:06:11] messiaen8844 : but trend intact, 2230 to here no lows violated, always higher. Not a single sell daily time frame [2015-12-09 13:10:02] rapidtrades : I sound like a broken record but this is the dumbest looking rally I've ever seen [2015-12-09 13:10:12] podizzler3k : haha [2015-12-09 13:10:28] rapidtrades : things don't just recover from 40% drops [2015-12-09 13:10:28] podizzler3k : the 16% i made yesterday was dumb [2015-12-09 13:10:30] podizzler3k : i agree [2015-12-09 13:10:47] rapidtrades : if u made 16% ur trading way too high sir [2015-12-09 13:11:00] podizzler3k : i wasnt even that high [2015-12-09 13:11:03] messiaen8844 : rapidtrades: lol, have you ever gonna through dow jones historical data? or other markets? [2015-12-09 13:11:28] messiaen8844 : read about long term market cycles? [2015-12-09 13:11:31] podizzler3k : rapidtrades the price went up over 4% [2015-12-09 13:11:35] rapidtrades : kind off...I'm going by my personal feeling, been trading other markets for +!0 years [2015-12-09 13:11:39] podizzler3k : 4x long gets you 16% [2015-12-09 13:11:48] messiaen8844 : brazilian market: 2002-2010: 800% [2015-12-09 13:11:48] rapidtrades : way too high imo [2015-12-09 13:12:14] rapidtrades : what's ur stop? @podizzler3k if prices started to go down? [2015-12-09 13:12:15] messiaen8844 : it's all cycles...sometimes decades long [2015-12-09 13:12:32] messiaen8844 : whoops, a decade long [2015-12-09 13:12:54] rapidtrades : if u made 16% on 4%, u could've lost same if we fell $20...which could've easily happened imo [2015-12-09 13:13:07] podizzler3k : never heard of a trailing stop loss? [2015-12-09 13:13:22] rapidtrades : well that's why I asked...ffs [2015-12-09 13:13:39] podizzler3k : you think i would have just let it ride $20 down? lol [2015-12-09 13:13:56] rapidtrades : dude...at one point yday we were down $15 [2015-12-09 13:14:01] rapidtrades : $405 to $390 [2015-12-09 13:14:11] rapidtrades : ur talking like it's not a normal event [2015-12-09 13:14:12] podizzler3k : oh yeah i was out at 405 and back in at 390 [2015-12-09 13:14:29] rapidtrades : well great guess ur a better trader then me then [2015-12-09 13:14:29] messiaen8844 : in this market, great buying opportunity if you are following the trend rapid [2015-12-09 13:14:43] podizzler3k : i just had a good day [2015-12-09 13:14:50] podizzler3k : it can happen to you even [2015-12-09 13:14:56] rapidtrades : lol [2015-12-09 13:14:56] podizzler3k : if you make the trend your friend [2015-12-09 13:15:07] rapidtrades : I was long as well FFS do u ppl read anything i say [2015-12-09 13:15:18] rapidtrades : I've been net long since $380 [2015-12-09 13:15:18] podizzler3k : yeah you said you were short multiple times [2015-12-09 13:15:24] rapidtrades : no an arb [2015-12-09 13:15:32] messiaen8844 : i think he was shorting daily [2015-12-09 13:15:33] messiaen8844 : no? [2015-12-09 13:15:33] podizzler3k : oh right an arb [2015-12-09 13:15:37] rapidtrades : those trades are much smaller [2015-12-09 13:16:01] podizzler3k : we should probably call it an "arb" since you have your own definition of that [2015-12-09 13:16:47] rapidtrades : anyway they're not worth it imo,,,,unless u program a bot...too much stress and too little profit [2015-12-09 13:16:57] rapidtrades : much like MM [2015-12-09 13:17:09] podizzler3k : im not sure that MM cannot be profitable [2015-12-09 13:17:24] podizzler3k : oh you mean trying to be a MM without the use of a bot [2015-12-09 13:17:26] podizzler3k : that sounds horrific [2015-12-09 13:17:34] rapidtrades : yeah it is [2015-12-09 13:17:50] podizzler3k : god bless those bots i was taking off them all day [2015-12-09 13:18:05] podizzler3k : i hope we didnt scare them off [2015-12-09 13:18:13] rapidtrades : yeah micmix said he was down today [2015-12-09 13:18:25] podizzler3k : yeah i think they cleanup during chop though [2015-12-09 13:18:38] rapidtrades : that $20 candle raped him [2015-12-09 13:18:46] rapidtrades : no retracement [2015-12-09 13:19:16] podizzler3k : have to code in some logic 'if price rises certain amount in certain time, gtfo;' [2015-12-09 13:19:19] podizzler3k : i think thats teh code [2015-12-09 13:19:35] podizzler3k : else; rekt [2015-12-09 13:19:54] wurstgelee : i am sure thats implemented [2015-12-09 13:19:56] wurstgelee : ;) [2015-12-09 13:20:36] wurstgelee : hard to gtfo into your own orders if youre a MM tho [2015-12-09 13:21:31] TschavaTschigger : micmix got raped by 20$ rise? [2015-12-09 13:21:53] rapidtrades : he said he's in the red [2015-12-09 13:22:02] haxmb : shouldn't trade positions bigger than foreign liquidity on the book [2015-12-09 13:22:09] haxmb : thats just retarded [2015-12-09 13:22:43] haxmb : "oh yeah i can buy 15000 contracts for an okay loss at any time" *goes short 40 000 contracts* [2015-12-09 13:22:57] haxmb : if you do that you deserve it [2015-12-09 13:23:07] messiaen8844 : one has to be careful building positions here, getting out on adverse market can be very costly [2015-12-09 13:23:16] TschavaTschigger : well he also said that he doesn't try to predict movements and just widens the spread, so I understand he is in the red [2015-12-09 13:26:28] rapidtrades : yday we were flat and we had $3 premium today we're up 5% and its $1.50 [2015-12-09 13:26:33] rapidtrades : makes sense I guess [2015-12-09 13:28:44] wurstgelee : whining about premium is your thing, right? [2015-12-09 13:39:57] messiaen8844 : interesting consideration on wright [2015-12-09 13:39:58] messiaen8844 : https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3w1uj8/ok_so_i_actually_read_the_ato_transcript_heres_my/ [2015-12-09 13:40:08] messiaen8844 : early adopter, first superminer [2015-12-09 13:43:13] messiaen8844 : could also be [2015-12-09 13:51:46] messiaen8844 : chop chop but ascending triangle still holding [2015-12-09 14:15:29] REKT : <b>REKT</b> Liquidated short on XBT24H: Buy 3000 @ 425.03 [2015-12-09 14:22:14] podizzler3k : isolated margin strikes again [2015-12-09 14:24:32] laisee : anotther welcome donation to the rest of us ... [2015-12-09 14:31:08] JDUB99 : helllo is support here? [2015-12-09 14:31:21] JDUB99 : my position seems to have been closed automatically... [2015-12-09 14:31:27] JDUB99 : anyone else have this issue? [2015-12-09 14:31:57] Rasign : Only god know [2015-12-09 14:32:10] JDUB99 : i was in the money too [2015-12-09 14:32:22] JDUB99 : my order history doesn't show a sell order either [2015-12-09 14:33:09] TschavaTschigger : JDUB99: click on account/wallet and then on trade history... it was probably a liquidation [2015-12-09 14:35:30] JDUB99 : aaaah isee it [2015-12-09 14:35:31] JDUB99 : thx [2015-12-09 14:49:18] Rasign : crash incoming ? [2015-12-09 14:52:08] habibi : nope? [2015-12-09 14:52:27] Rasign : Maybe yes [2015-12-09 14:52:31] Rasign : Maybe no [2015-12-09 14:52:39] habibi : lel so why u asks? [2015-12-09 14:54:09] Rasign : cause i know you will not answer me [2015-12-09 14:54:12] Rasign : :D [2015-12-09 14:54:27] Rasign : its troll box man [2015-12-09 15:28:48] messiaen8844 : GBTC up 31.10% today. [2015-12-09 15:28:52] messiaen8844 : $ 72.50 [2015-12-09 15:30:21] rapidtrades : cos why not [2015-12-09 15:34:39] rapidtrades : PREMIUM STRONK [2015-12-09 15:49:50] REKT : <b>REKT</b> Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 260 @ 421.55 [2015-12-09 15:49:55] TschavaTschigger : going down whoowhoo [2015-12-09 15:50:00] REKT : <b>REKT</b> Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 260 @ 420.57 [2015-12-09 15:50:10] REKT : <b>REKT</b> Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 1088 @ 420.72 [2015-12-09 15:50:11] messiaen8844 : another successfull triangle [2015-12-09 15:50:20] REKT : <b>REKT</b> Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 1262 @ 419.66 [2015-12-09 15:52:12] TschavaTschigger : that 6k buy at 418... optimistic [2015-12-09 15:54:35] messiaen8844 : https://www.tradingview.com/x/VjlE9akV/ [2015-12-09 15:54:50] messiaen8844 : hold in the strong support, good dip to buy here [2015-12-09 15:55:20] wurstgelee : i did [2015-12-09 15:55:41] wurstgelee : will see how that turns out [2015-12-09 16:00:37] wurstgelee : not so bad so far =) [2015-12-09 16:03:42] rapidtrades : I jinxed u guys....added to longs at 425 lol [2015-12-09 16:03:48] wurstgelee : bailed with a small profit, not so sure this is over [2015-12-09 16:04:06] rapidtrades : was a bet on more premium but we didn't go much higher :) [2015-12-09 16:06:50] REKT : <b>REKT</b> Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 1226 @ 415.74 [2015-12-09 16:10:46] rapidtrades : we found support? maybe? [2015-12-09 16:11:10] rapidtrades : prolly means we're going down cos everything's reversed here [2015-12-09 16:12:47] messiaen8844 : now on support, better wait closed candles [2015-12-09 16:12:50] messiaen8844 : apparently is holding [2015-12-09 16:13:14] rapidtrades : closed candle on what....1d? [2015-12-09 16:14:06] messiaen8844 : I'm on 15 min, watching closely this [2015-12-09 16:14:41] wurstgelee : support looking good. for now [2015-12-09 16:14:51] messiaen8844 : there's still selling pressure [2015-12-09 16:14:56] wurstgelee : yep [2015-12-09 16:14:58] rapidtrades : this is stupid [2015-12-09 16:15:13] messiaen8844 : and people waiting for the moment to buy the dip [2015-12-09 16:15:31] rapidtrades : if we go below $400 I may dump it all [2015-12-09 16:15:37] rapidtrades : go cash 100% [2015-12-09 16:15:44] rapidtrades : or hedged w/e [2015-12-09 16:16:16] habibi : dont panic rapidtrades [2015-12-09 16:16:32] habibi : as soon as u will go all in it will imidietally reverse whatever way it goes [2015-12-09 16:16:48] wurstgelee : :D [2015-12-09 16:16:52] rapidtrades : exactly and that's why u don't trade these stupid moves [2015-12-09 16:17:20] messiaen8844 : hedge call was to short the triangle, that was a clear sell [2015-12-09 16:17:30] rapidtrades : get lost dude [2015-12-09 16:17:47] rapidtrades : I'm not hedging a $7 move against me [2015-12-09 16:17:55] messiaen8844 : just don't overleverage and follow your analysis [2015-12-09 16:18:47] rapidtrades : my leverage is very small...mostly hedged right now actually [2015-12-09 16:20:03] messiaen8844 : very agressive call here would be buy here sell 2750 [2015-12-09 16:20:42] rapidtrades : fully loaded after I added higher..maybe smone else can do it [2015-12-09 16:20:54] wurstgelee : already bought sub 415 [2015-12-09 16:21:16] rapidtrades : u ppl always buy after we're already gone up...the midas touch [2015-12-09 16:21:25] messiaen8844 : going for it, have profits to burn ;) [2015-12-09 16:21:42] messiaen8844 : tight stop, fun trade [2015-12-09 16:21:57] rapidtrades : nothing fun about losing ur money [2015-12-09 16:22:16] messiaen8844 : I don't mind losing money to my ideas [2015-12-09 16:22:21] wurstgelee : oh, it can be funny, if its play money [2015-12-09 16:22:27] wurstgelee : and you get rekt a funny way [2015-12-09 16:22:28] wurstgelee : =) [2015-12-09 16:22:39] messiaen8844 : if they have good risk-reward [2015-12-09 16:23:36] rapidtrades : if this thng stays around $415 for 18 hours again I will lose my shit [2015-12-09 16:23:51] messiaen8844 : the red line [2015-12-09 16:23:52] messiaen8844 : https://www.tradingview.com/x/r1B97Gxj/ [2015-12-09 16:24:22] rapidtrades : this looks like smone is literally pushing the market one way then the next...1 spike up, 1 spike down [2015-12-09 16:26:08] rapidtrades : GUYS WE BUY NAAO? CHING CHONG CHING! [2015-12-09 16:26:22] rapidtrades : YA BUY THEN SELL YA CHING CHONG CHING [2015-12-09 16:26:52] rapidtrades : some stupid chinese miners pushing the market around [2015-12-09 16:27:16] rapidtrades : YA U FILL MA BIDS....NOW U FILL MA BIDS...CHING CHONG [2015-12-09 16:28:00] rapidtrades : taking a break [2015-12-09 16:45:40] REKT : <b>REKT</b> Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 100 @ 412.96 [2015-12-09 16:45:40] REKT : <b>REKT</b> Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 428 @ 412.75 [2015-12-09 16:45:41] REKT : <b>REKT</b> Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 500 @ 413.07 [2015-12-09 16:45:41] REKT : <b>REKT</b> Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 153 @ 412.75 [2015-12-09 16:45:41] REKT : <b>REKT</b> Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 2950 @ 412.65 [2015-12-09 16:46:00] REKT : <b>REKT</b> Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 300 @ 411.64 [2015-12-09 16:46:25] nickhnt : lol [2015-12-09 16:46:27] nickhnt : love this bot [2015-12-09 16:54:29] habibi : yea but funny is that the biggest dump cause the lowest dmg to liqs [2015-12-09 17:03:10] REKT : <b>REKT</b> Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 1388 @ 412.16 [2015-12-09 17:04:50] REKT : <b>REKT</b> Liquidated long on XBTZ15: Sell 450 @ 421.95 [2015-12-09 17:05:00] REKT : <b>REKT</b> Liquidated long on XBTZ15: Sell 450 @ 420.41 [2015-12-09 17:05:10] REKT : <b>REKT</b> Liquidated long on XBTZ15: Sell 1500 @ 420.91 [2015-12-09 17:07:40] REKT : <b>REKT</b> Liquidated long on XBT24H: Sell 200 @ 408.85 [2015-12-09 17:08:21] Swedishnut : hiyas from vacation! looks like it has been pretty crazy the last few days [2015-12-09 17:08:33] nickhnt : cmon fill ma bids [2015-12-09 17:08:41] nickhnt : thx [2015-12-09 17:08:43] nickhnt : :) [2015-12-09 17:11:10] REKT : <b>REKT</b> Liquidated short on XBT24H: Buy 141 @ 409.54 [2015-12-09 17:12:12] messiaen8844 : nice stop hunt [2015-12-09 17:13:35] nickhnt : nice short here, if everyday i could win like this... hehehe [2015-12-09 17:13:44] justinlooking : Swedishnut: has been bonkers :) [2015-12-09 17:14:48] Swedishnut : vacation me isn't goin to get involved but would be heavenly to keep checking and see continued momentum up [2015-12-09 17:16:43] rapidtrades : BUY ALL THE THINGS [2015-12-09 17:17:11] messiaen8844 : are you selling your mother? [2015-12-09 17:18:02] rapidtrades : god dam finex is some moody mofo [2015-12-09 17:18:12] rapidtrades : SWING ALL THE THINGS [2015-12-09 17:18:14] messiaen8844 : sorry, not my humour style, that's for all your mother jokes here ;) [2015-12-09 17:19:16] sleger : messiaen8844: you and I do not have the same definition of "joke" [2015-12-09 17:20:19] messiaen8844 : sleger: I was making fun by the fact that rapid keeps making mother jokes of everyone else [2015-12-09 17:20:46] messiaen8844 : but yeah, was pretty stupid [2015-12-09 17:20:48] justinlooking : yo sleger, u ok buddy? [2015-12-09 17:20:50] sleger : I understood, and I am saying that he does not make jokes, what you call joke is actually insult [2015-12-09 17:20:59] sleger : justinlooking: of c why wouldnt I ? [2015-12-09 17:21:42] messiaen8844 : indeed, nowadays there is a thin line around these two concepts [2015-12-09 17:21:46] justinlooking : i thought u disappeared on us [2015-12-09 17:23:01] sleger : i dont always have chat window opened [2015-12-09 17:28:21] rapidtrades : this is prolly the low for the next few hrs....perhaps FOREVER? [2015-12-09 17:29:05] rapidtrades : doesn't okcoin US use China time? [2015-12-09 17:29:10] rapidtrades : okc usd [2015-12-09 17:29:15] rapidtrades : okc.com [2015-12-09 17:30:07] rapidtrades : they should put a fucking clock on their site ffs [2015-12-09 17:30:27] sleger : you got to love how nobody bothers answering your questions anymore [2015-12-09 17:30:35] rapidtrades : wtf is 19:00...what time is that [2015-12-09 17:30:42] rapidtrades : sleger: get r*ped [2015-12-09 17:31:42] sleger : ohohoh so rude [2015-12-09 17:32:00] sleger : oh I know the answer to all of your questions btw [2015-12-09 17:34:28] BitMEX_Sam : Keep it civil rapidtrades [2015-12-09 17:36:20] rapidtrades : sleger: you got to love how nobody bothers answering your questions anymore [2015-12-09 17:36:40] rapidtrades : guess being a passive-aggresive b1tch is ok [2015-12-09 17:36:46] habibi : rapidtrades: i heard tradingview is going to add "rapid reverse trades indicator" soon. Premium only [2015-12-09 17:37:22] sleger : rapidtrades: There is a limit not to be crossed. Insults are crossing that line. [2015-12-09 17:37:39] rapidtrades : this guy has been on my case 24/7 whenever I post....consider urself ignored sir [2015-12-09 17:37:54] BitMEX_Sam : rapidtrades: Keep up the insults and we'll ban your account from chatting, this is the last time I'm asking you to keep it civil.