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<< >> English 中文 Русский 한국어 日本語 Español Français [2026-05-13 20:22:01] PeacenLuv : cupl punkz [2026-05-13 20:27:09] neki : Shawn-Williams: ur the mosk likeable retail attracting poster Ive seen here [2026-05-13 20:27:36] neki : poster = as in someone who writes in TB [2026-05-13 20:27:59] GodBleesYou : BMEXcheers: what do you mean love? [2026-05-13 20:28:06] GodBleesYou : yea it can be that easy [2026-05-13 20:28:12] GodBleesYou : wining stratgy is wining stragy [2026-05-13 20:28:18] GodBleesYou : nothing worng about it [2026-05-13 20:30:31] neki : Luke Short: ye boy.. u can get 82500 calls on deribit with 14may expiriy for 14usd [2026-05-13 20:31:41] GodBleesYou : just think of mergin use and order sizing... you dont always wanna keep trading 1x do like me account tiers for exmple tire 1 : 1000$ order size 1x tire 2 : account 2000$ order size 97.5% tire 3 : account 4000$ 95% etc etc this way when you account reach tire 10 you dont over lavrage it easy to trade small amount 1x.. beacuse always someone gonna fill your order but when account reach milions you cant really dump in 1 click.. so scale up account size scale down order size you will thank me in few years <3 @BMEXcheers [2026-05-13 20:32:17] BMEXcheers : yeah its 1x compounding [2026-05-13 20:32:19] BMEXcheers : : p [2026-05-13 20:32:27] GodBleesYou : BMEXcheers: i saw [2026-05-13 20:32:32] GodBleesYou : thats why i tell you <3 [2026-05-13 20:32:38] GodBleesYou : it is okay while account is tiny [2026-05-13 20:32:48] BMEXcheers : its paper atm ;) [2026-05-13 20:33:00] BMEXcheers : hence me asking 'does it work like this for real' [2026-05-13 20:33:01] BMEXcheers : lol [2026-05-13 20:33:17] BMEXcheers : i am being told to think about things like latency/execution of trades [2026-05-13 20:33:20] GodBleesYou : BMEXcheers: i dont do paper.. i always go live when i test stuff [2026-05-13 20:33:22] BMEXcheers : ol' Arthur [2026-05-13 20:33:36] GodBleesYou : BMEXcheers: yes it will work 100% like you build it [2026-05-13 20:33:37] BMEXcheers : yes but this is my first bot :¬) so soon! [2026-05-13 20:33:48] BMEXcheers : nice [2026-05-13 20:34:25] GodBleesYou : BMEXcheers: man in 2016 /2015 it was hard to do today with cludia easy!!!! super easy!!! you are not worng all good review your code 1000 times backtest it.. and run it [2026-05-13 20:34:36] Shawn-Williams : neki: 😄 [2026-05-13 20:35:15] GodBleesYou : ask cludia to build you backtest > optimizer > hunter and run it on endless loop @BMEXcheers [2026-05-13 20:35:45] BMEXcheers : hahaha it has been optimising for me : p there is a back tester, it downloads from binance [2026-05-13 20:35:51] BMEXcheers : hunter? [2026-05-13 20:36:55] GodBleesYou : BMEXcheers: hunter is to take you best optimzer and run 10000 runs on the settings with tiny range of change and it will find you even better setting i am breeding settings till i found dimond of dimond [2026-05-13 20:37:03] GodBleesYou : BMEXcheers: wanna see one dimond ? [2026-05-13 20:38:04] MrBritcoin : all the dice lets go [2026-05-13 20:39:51] GodBleesYou : BMEXcheers: https://ibb.co/tMg1z0GV [2026-05-13 20:39:55] GodBleesYou : not bad [2026-05-13 20:40:03] GodBleesYou : 1:1500 R:R [2026-05-13 20:40:16] GodBleesYou : :arthur: [2026-05-13 20:41:46] BMEXcheers : oh claude does the hunter - sometimes i say 'im going to sleep, cycle through the settings to find an edge' [2026-05-13 20:41:50] BMEXcheers : and it'll back test for me [2026-05-13 20:41:51] BMEXcheers : lol [2026-05-13 20:42:06] BMEXcheers : but it only improves when it sees an issue on live then it'll focus on those settings [2026-05-13 20:42:35] GodBleesYou : BMEXcheers: mmmm cludia cant to the test for you love.. real back test should be on your one system [2026-05-13 20:42:41] GodBleesYou : cludia limited in term of toolds [2026-05-13 20:42:49] GodBleesYou : she cant run endless loop [2026-05-13 20:42:53] GodBleesYou : she will stop [2026-05-13 20:42:57] BMEXcheers : it built that in for me btw, a page dedicated for back test [2026-05-13 20:42:59] GodBleesYou : they arenot that stupid [2026-05-13 20:43:10] BMEXcheers : but i let claude do the settings and cycle through different ones [2026-05-13 20:43:26] GodBleesYou : BMEXcheers: build one that will run on your system lol [2026-05-13 20:43:47] GodBleesYou : cludia not allow to do endless cycle lol [2026-05-13 20:44:01] GodBleesYou : you know how much it cost to run endless loop? jajajajajajajaajajaa [2026-05-13 20:44:11] GodBleesYou : you are crazy jajajajaja [2026-05-13 20:44:35] PeacenLuv : longstops up 79758 [2026-05-13 20:45:19] GodBleesYou : BMEXcheers: my desktop is preety good top cpu top gpu high ram and it take me 1 hour to do just 1 cycle of hunter [2026-05-13 20:45:36] GodBleesYou : and my desktop runing hot babe hot [2026-05-13 20:45:43] GodBleesYou : cludia cant to do for you xD [2026-05-13 20:47:14] GodBleesYou : build it on your own system and let it run for a month [2026-05-13 20:47:26] GodBleesYou : you will have nice fat electrivy bill [2026-05-13 20:47:28] neki : BMEXcheers: now why do you need a bot to press green button anywy? [2026-05-13 20:47:27] GodBleesYou : <3 [2026-05-13 20:47:56] BMEXcheers : neki: because im too scared to [2026-05-13 20:47:57] neki : BMEXcheers: does ur bot trade spot or futures? [2026-05-13 20:47:57] BMEXcheers : :¬) [2026-05-13 20:48:11] BMEXcheers : neki: its paper trade on binance ticker for btc [2026-05-13 20:48:26] BMEXcheers : BTCUSDT [2026-05-13 20:48:55] neki : BMEXcheers: y not adjust it to spot.. and with come coding to account for contango/backwardation [2026-05-13 20:49:20] neki : some* coding [2026-05-13 20:50:26] neki : BMEXcheers: anyhow.. so binance ticker for execution on bitmex? [2026-05-13 20:51:38] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated long on `SOLUSDT`: Sell 0.0100 SOL @ 91.15 ($0.91) [2026-05-13 20:53:41] PeacenLuv : long the green 3hr xbtusd bullishlezgohh [2026-05-13 20:55:28] thankyousomuch : 80k is top [2026-05-13 20:55:35] thankyousomuch : bullrun has ended cause bullrun has started [2026-05-13 20:55:46] thankyousomuch : 😳 [2026-05-13 21:00:41] PeacenLuv : we dont need to b frenz for me to take yur munnee [2026-05-13 21:01:11] thankyousomuch : GodBleesYou: btc cant be longed [2026-05-13 21:01:17] PeacenLuv : longstops up 79666 [2026-05-13 21:02:59] thankyousomuch : :downrocket: [2026-05-13 21:03:11] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated long on `ZECUSDT`: Sell 0.5400 ZEC @ 523.96 ($283.01) [2026-05-13 21:04:23] thankyousomuch : make btc tether again lol [2026-05-13 21:04:58] ninnk : https://x.com/barkmeta/status/2054615783020339294 [2026-05-13 21:06:31] thankyousomuch : https://www.netzwelt.de/ist-down/1249-mcdonald-s.html [2026-05-13 21:08:24] Luke Short : thankyousomuch: alter was da los [2026-05-13 21:08:37] thankyousomuch : :pepe: Mc DOnalds will pay more than 1 $ per 8 hr work they said :pepe: [2026-05-13 21:09:42] Luke Short : thankyousomuch: short that clown company https://www.tradingview.com/x/D3SZYeWl/ [2026-05-13 21:10:10] Luke Short : or long it when oil comes down again [2026-05-13 21:10:40] Luke Short : or just invest in it.. buy cheap [2026-05-13 21:11:41] Luke Short : When is BitMEX launching it's own fonds again? [2026-05-13 21:13:36] thankyousomuch : Mc Doanlds is correlated with btc price since Trump @Luke Short [2026-05-13 21:14:23] Luke Short : they just don't like high energy and gas prices.. logistics.. a lot of logistics which use gas [2026-05-13 21:14:53] Luke Short : hmm.. Domino's is even better.. down 42% from it's ath [2026-05-13 21:15:09] Luke Short : if i was rich i would BTFD [2026-05-13 21:15:23] Luke Short : and wait for the end of iran "crisis" [2026-05-13 21:15:51] speedwell : the dip is sub 60k [2026-05-13 21:16:17] Luke Short : speedwell: yeah on the shitcoin. because shitcoin is not AI. but Domino's pizza or mcdonalds for example [2026-05-13 21:16:54] speedwell : arrh. [2026-05-13 21:17:05] FishyGuy : its not an iran crisi, its a trump crisis and it only ends when he's no longer in power [2026-05-13 21:17:15] FishyGuy : crisis* [2026-05-13 21:17:48] Luke Short : FishyGuy: sure, because all other presidents, the pentagon and the senat would prefer iran having nuclear weapons [2026-05-13 21:18:02] speedwell : A cabal crisis. [2026-05-13 21:19:47] FishyGuy : the fuck does it have to do with america if another country has nuked. myob and gtfo [2026-05-13 21:20:12] Luke Short : when btc dump? my short is only in 45% profit and i am waiting for days already [2026-05-13 21:21:01] Luke Short : FishyGuy: guess you don't care either if russa invades ukraine, right? :D [2026-05-13 21:21:15] Luke Short : logic [2026-05-13 21:21:53] FishyGuy : in the factual past, Russia DID invade Ukraine. Somebody in iran convievably perhaps one day making a nuke like many other countries also have.... your point was? [2026-05-13 21:22:05] ninnk : 🧃 [2026-05-13 21:22:20] Luke Short : alright. we should wait for iran to nuke israel. why didn't i see that. sry [2026-05-13 21:22:32] ninnk : Luke Short: YES [2026-05-13 21:22:43] Luke Short : and then revange war? [2026-05-13 21:22:53] ninnk : no then the world can finally prosper [2026-05-13 21:22:57] FishyGuy : let trust... the only country that has ever used nukes in war to decide who can use nukes. now that's logic [2026-05-13 21:23:16] Luke Short : ninnk: oh right. the jews are the root of all evil. i forgot [2026-05-13 21:23:35] FishyGuy : decided as well by an octogenarian acting on his own twitter Truth rage posts and memes, forget congress or checks and balances etc etc minor detail [2026-05-13 21:23:39] speedwell : Israel is a western military base to control oil. [2026-05-13 21:23:40] ninnk : you said that, not me [2026-05-13 21:23:50] ninnk : anyway, pdump it or some shiet [2026-05-13 21:23:57] Luke Short : FishyGuy: it's not just the USA who doesn't want iran to have a nuke lol [2026-05-13 21:24:05] Luke Short : noone wants that [2026-05-13 21:24:30] Luke Short : their officials literally said they want to nuke israel... no other country says such stupid things [2026-05-13 21:24:31] speedwell : To understand the world you need a historical context, not just last weeks news. Pre WW 1 is a must. [2026-05-13 21:25:02] FishyGuy : so if they did, and that would be such a threat to the world.. what, stability, economy, oil prices? shouldnt we... idk... not fsck up the entire world prevent a non-event? minority report a-la South Park edition [2026-05-13 21:25:43] Luke Short : speedwell: bro i am austrian. i know antisemitism too well for that bs. you have no proof of that and just think it's like that. regardless of the consequences your accusations may have. [2026-05-13 21:25:53] speedwell : Iran does not need nukes to wipe out Israel. [2026-05-13 21:25:56] ninnk : https://youtu.be/qdV0AdgjPgo [2026-05-13 21:25:58] ninnk : there [2026-05-13 21:26:00] ninnk : everything explained [2026-05-13 21:26:12] ninnk : now change topic before dougie bans us all [2026-05-13 21:26:12] FishyGuy : i so hope thats a rick roll [2026-05-13 21:26:19] Luke Short : FishyGuy: a threat to a lot of human beings. millions of people. civilians. fathers, mothers, sons and daughters. [2026-05-13 21:27:08] FishyGuy : yes, Trump still being is power is fscking mental, right [2026-05-13 21:27:19] Luke Short : ninnk: that's a sketch from a comedian. no facts. [2026-05-13 21:27:51] speedwell : As soon as oil was discovered and became essential, the west was all over it and has never let go. Israel is called the unsinkable aircraft carrier for a reason. Got nothing to do with Jews. [2026-05-13 21:27:51] Luke Short : FishyGuy: it's not that bad. you guys are all histerical. like middle aged housewifes. [2026-05-13 21:29:00] speedwell : I think that's you? Worried about Iran nukes? that is a cover story. An excuse for the midwits. [2026-05-13 21:29:16] neki : Its obvious USA is attcking Iran because of Apple conspiracy/trademark. No conuntry can just so frivouloiusly wear the " I " tag. [2026-05-13 21:29:18] bluemaster : looks like I will need some blue pills to lift this limp shit [2026-05-13 21:29:46] Luke Short : oh damn. i forgot this is the trollbox [2026-05-13 21:29:51] neki : bluemaster: u see why my will has been somewhat temperd recently? :P [2026-05-13 21:29:53] Luke Short : got me good [2026-05-13 21:34:00] speedwell : I biggest threat to our well being is our own governments. Not some boogey man over there. Classic diversion. Look over there plebs, They want your freedoms...whilst you give your up freely, it's for your safety. [2026-05-13 21:35:38] Luke Short : absolutely. that's why we should not abide any law or any orders from police officers. everyone can do that and if enough people do the same we can crush our goverments [2026-05-13 21:35:44] Luke Short : then we finally be free [2026-05-13 21:36:12] neki : Luke Short: this is sarcasm? [2026-05-13 21:36:19] neki : on the police [2026-05-13 21:37:36] speedwell : Legal vs lawful. It's real bro. Order follows are the worst kind. [2026-05-13 21:37:38] Luke Short : no way, sir. that's a dead serious problem. our goverments are literally destroying our lives. we should act [2026-05-13 21:37:50] Luke Short : ffs [2026-05-13 21:37:59] Luke Short : histerical housewives for real [2026-05-13 21:38:36] speedwell : Go get your injections. Be a good citizen now. [2026-05-13 21:39:09] Luke Short : no nay i get that cancerous GPS tracker injected. [2026-05-13 21:39:29] Luke Short : they just want to kill our old ones to thin out the population [2026-05-13 21:39:43] Luke Short : you really need to step up on your knowledge bro. [2026-05-13 21:39:56] speedwell : Just do as you are told and believe everything on the TV and evetything will be great! [2026-05-13 21:40:27] Luke Short : lol not watching that propaganda. i am watching youtube and tiktok videos where people talk the actual truth [2026-05-13 21:40:42] speedwell : Your Government loves you and just wants to help. [2026-05-13 21:40:46] Luke Short : they are not getting paid to lie [2026-05-13 21:42:15] Luke Short : speedwell: trust me. i work for the goverment. we are just exlpoiting the people. actively hindering processes, just overload them with useless beurocracy and high taxbills and our bosses have our backs doing so. it's makes me happy to screw with people and see them suffer [2026-05-13 21:42:26] Luke Short : i laugh at people, when they cry about high tax bills [2026-05-13 21:42:33] Shawn-Williams : Rules are made for people who don't know what to do. When those dumb lives roam here and there- suddenly something come up- they search rule and do it [2026-05-13 21:42:42] Luke Short : it's just how i am as a public worker [2026-05-13 21:42:48] Shawn-Williams : Minds that are alive make their ways out of rule book [2026-05-13 21:43:41] speedwell : We currently live in a soup of the most sophisticated propaganda ever. [2026-05-13 21:44:09] speedwell : They have something for everybody. [2026-05-13 21:44:31] Shawn-Williams : Rules are like when trump say- people: Do what i say. not, what I do [2026-05-13 21:44:49] Shawn-Williams : and people say YES Sir [2026-05-13 21:44:53] Luke Short : Shawn-Williams: *minds that are alive make rules for all minds to live together fairly and peaceful [2026-05-13 21:45:31] Shawn-Williams : Luke Short: let me clear your concept. Have you seen the rabit? He says I follow the rule. What else a rabbit can do? [2026-05-13 21:45:49] Shawn-Williams : if he do not follow then he might get eaten from predator who is not following any rule [2026-05-13 21:45:54] speedwell : We are not saying, act unlawfully. [2026-05-13 21:46:03] Shawn-Williams : if Lion say I follow the rule, that make sense [2026-05-13 21:46:23] Shawn-Williams : but if rabbit says I will follow the rule and I am law abiding citizen and bla bla n bla [2026-05-13 21:46:26] Shawn-Williams : then you know [2026-05-13 21:46:49] Shawn-Williams : I broke many teeths in ma life and people say's m not doing anything because i hate crime [2026-05-13 21:47:13] Shawn-Williams : then I say you are not doing anything because you cannot do anything or else I will come back and take the bone out of your hip [2026-05-13 21:47:24] Shawn-Williams : No one else- knows better about this than me [2026-05-13 21:47:26] Luke Short : Shawn-Williams: what do i know then? alle people have to follow the rules. some don't and get punished. fewer don't and get away with it. but the system is not perfect - like everything else is not perfect either. [2026-05-13 21:47:30] Shawn-Williams : So I know this rule book things [2026-05-13 21:47:54] Shawn-Williams : Luke Short: rules are for people who do not know what to do in life- that's all I can say [2026-05-13 21:47:59] Shawn-Williams : not saying break rules [2026-05-13 21:48:01] Shawn-Williams : but read law [2026-05-13 21:48:14] Shawn-Williams : and you know how to play with the rules without hurting yourself too much [2026-05-13 21:48:20] Shawn-Williams : usually people are rabbits [2026-05-13 21:48:36] Shawn-Williams : so the day when you know this- you will have a wide open way open for you in life [2026-05-13 21:48:51] Shawn-Williams : Trust me on this as I have been through a lot and lot [2026-05-13 21:49:13] Luke Short : Shawn-Williams: can't relate to that. there is a lot of stuff i would like to do. but i can't because there are rules. nobody i know looks at the rules to see what the want to do. People want to do something and check in a second step if there is a rule and possible punishment for that [2026-05-13 21:49:35] speedwell : Luke Short: You need to have some self respect. Look un enalienable rights. [2026-05-13 21:50:19] Shawn-Williams : Luke Short: depend on personality man. Value system make us mentally poor and confused [2026-05-13 21:50:26] Shawn-Williams : There is no rule [2026-05-13 21:50:28] speedwell : Rights are not granted. The state is secondary to the man. Men make the state, not the other way around. [2026-05-13 21:50:41] Shawn-Williams : trading bitcoin is illegal somewhere and legal somewhere [2026-05-13 21:50:56] Shawn-Williams : bitmex open at island with no tax [2026-05-13 21:50:58] Shawn-Williams : simple [2026-05-13 21:51:07] Shawn-Williams : you should know your way out [2026-05-13 21:51:13] Shawn-Williams : rule my foot [2026-05-13 21:51:29] Luke Short : Shawn-Williams: most people are just to lazy to read laws and because of that they feel insecure about every action they take... yes, that makes them poor and confused. but that's not a good reason to abandon the rules at all [2026-05-13 21:53:13] Luke Short : it's not that deep guys. and everyone has to deal with it. and almost all of us are similarly intelligent.. don't get hysterical about that [2026-05-13 21:53:25] Shawn-Williams : My answer can lead to psychology where I don't want to go now but I have answer- If you do not want to do anything and still think you are right, then you will find a way. Also, if you want to do something and you think you are very very wrong- then also you will find the way [2026-05-13 21:53:32] Shawn-Williams : it depend what you want [2026-05-13 21:54:06] Luke Short : we live in the fairest world in the history of time. there has never been a fairer civilization before. [2026-05-13 21:54:10] Shawn-Williams : at last- there is no rule and there is no law. It all depend on how you manipulate. Or if you cannot then atleast have pocket full of cash so you can get lawyer who can do it for you [2026-05-13 21:55:10] speedwell : Luke Short: nobody can afford a house, nobody having children, mass immigration to drive dead economy etc [2026-05-13 21:56:35] Pilot : Hello [2026-05-13 21:56:44] Pilot : /since ``` :bitmex: Pilot has been on BitMEX since Aug 20, 2016. ``` [2026-05-13 21:56:46] speedwell : WW 3 is well underway. [2026-05-13 21:56:59] speedwell : Everything is fine! [2026-05-13 21:57:14] Luke Short : Shawn-Williams: oh yes, there are many people who think they can outsmart me in my job. but i studied the laws i have to work with and all of them get rekt. trust me. if you are not a lawyer or an tax advisor fulltime, you can't outsmart the public servants [2026-05-13 21:57:57] Shawn-Williams : Luke Short: somewhat agree with you [2026-05-13 21:59:48] Luke Short : speedwell: a lot of people still can afford it... enough for the market to work. yeah it has it's not good, but it's not that bad either. yeah, the children is some sort of a problem too, but not necesserely - at some point we can't become more and more humans anyways.. mass imigration is also not that bad yet. economy didn't collapse yet either. i think you are overreacting [2026-05-13 22:01:26] bluemaster : STRATEGY (MSTR) mNAV 1.248× 1.0× 1.22× 2.5× MSTR $178.03 · EV $81.1B · BTC NAV $65B [2026-05-13 22:02:48] Luke Short : Shawn-Williams: there are exeptions.. as always. like young public servants or dumb ones or alcoholics etc.. and there are some very high IQ psyochpaths who are able to outsmart officers. but not many... veeeery few. But i know for a fact that there are shit ton of people who think they are smarter than the law or the public servants. Imagine being smarter than laws, which were developed over thousendos of years by millions of people. [2026-05-13 22:03:01] bluemaster : MSTR approaching sell threshold [2026-05-13 22:03:29] speedwell : Luke Short: Just watching. And have a view on policy. If I see bad decision after bad decision, I question motive. If I see decades of it...? [2026-05-13 22:03:41] Shawn-Williams : Luke Short: point. Agreed [2026-05-13 22:04:20] Luke Short : speedwell: watch out if there are also good decisions, but maybe there are not that public, because they would make bad clickbait. there are good decisions all the time. but they are boring. [2026-05-13 22:04:55] bluemaster : GEX Regime STICKY RANGE Deribit Index $79,732 Max Pain $76,000 Call Wall $80,000 Put Wall $75,000 GEX Flip $80,500 Put/Call Ratio 0.66 Nearest Expiry 14MAY26 (9h 56m) [2026-05-13 22:05:27] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 100 USD @ 79256.5 - Hope is not a strategy [2026-05-13 22:05:27] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated long on `XBTUSDT`: Sell 0.1099 XBT @ 79291.4 ($8,710.08) [2026-05-13 22:05:33] speedwell : Just look at productivity and wage growth, people are being squeezed. [2026-05-13 22:06:34] speedwell : We probably peaked in the 70's for fairness. [2026-05-13 22:07:45] Gandalf the Grey : Bears giving entreees [2026-05-13 22:07:46] Gandalf the Grey : nicu [2026-05-13 22:08:51] Luke Short : as always. but the stuff we really need for living is still very cheap, like food. yes you can argue about the shrinking middleclass and so on but it doesn't help... there is no solution for high housing prices.. and smartphones, laptops, cars are still managable although we didn't bought all that electronic devices in the 70s at all [2026-05-13 22:10:13] Gandalf the Grey : When you dont let them hit your SL so they hit the whole account xDDDDDD [2026-05-13 22:10:22] Luke Short : and with wealth it's a make it or don't thing.. like the american dream. but if we don't make it we don't end on the streets without food [2026-05-13 22:10:53] speedwell : Luke Short: Our representatives are all compromised, by money or 'other' things. The corporation now runs the show, elections are for the dumb masses. [2026-05-13 22:11:25] Luke Short : speedwell: to some degree everyone is compromised.. even if it's only by their own morals/ethics [2026-05-13 22:11:57] Luke Short : speedwell: corporations build wealth for everyone.. so the have a leverage - sure [2026-05-13 22:12:09] speedwell : so it is important to retain the abillity to say 'No' to the machine [2026-05-13 22:12:37] speedwell : because they will make whatever 'rules' they want. [2026-05-13 22:13:20] speedwell : give up rights for control, aka safety. [2026-05-13 22:13:36] neki : bluemaster: give ticker for stock bls [2026-05-13 22:13:38] Luke Short : speedwell: if you say "no", than you can't expect the machine's help either... i don't think you would want that [2026-05-13 22:13:39] neki : mstr [2026-05-13 22:14:07] Luke Short : speedwell: it's a give and take [2026-05-13 22:14:25] neki : bluemaster: cuz ive gogt US5949728530 for MSTR , buht dont see your numbers [2026-05-13 22:14:41] PeacenLuv : long entry 79322 [2026-05-13 22:14:49] speedwell : Luke Short: That's my choice. If I don't want a gov camera in my house, that's my call. [2026-05-13 22:15:12] speedwell : or an injection, or restrictions on movement etc [2026-05-13 22:15:16] Luke Short : speedwell: nobody would want that. and that's why it doesn't exist. you are overreacting [2026-05-13 22:15:36] Luke Short : speedwell: bro there was an unkown illness [2026-05-13 22:16:05] speedwell : you don't seem to understand what a constitution is. A limit to gov. Very important. [2026-05-13 22:16:19] speedwell : Luke Short: Bro, there was no illness. [2026-05-13 22:16:37] speedwell : just your TV sreaming at you. [2026-05-13 22:16:42] neki : Luke Short: dude the only "machine" u talk about is the corporations. As a public worker youd know this. and corps dont serve higher good [2026-05-13 22:17:13] Luke Short : neki: sry i don't know the anarchist-term "machine" [2026-05-13 22:17:53] Luke Short : neki: they do. corps produce your food, devices, car, etc.. wtf [2026-05-13 22:18:01] neki : Luke Short: your comment at 00.13, yu metion machine [2026-05-13 22:18:11] Luke Short : neki: because speedwell did [2026-05-13 22:18:21] Luke Short : i thought he was talking about "the system" [2026-05-13 22:19:41] Luke Short : can't you just use common terms... makes oyu wonder [2026-05-13 22:19:58] speedwell : it's about balance like you said, give and take. The individual/collective. there are two sides to that equation. [2026-05-13 22:20:53] neki : I stannd corrected. Tho it would serve to clear whether u guy are talking about the machine or just the administration(machine also). cuz we've got systems within systems in our civil structure. Some more accessible than others to public. [2026-05-13 22:21:02] Luke Short : speedwell: ok. and what did you give so far? i, personally didn't give a lot. i am literally getting payed by all the other's to enforce rules. i am happy to get stuff like food, car, toiletpaper, etc. [2026-05-13 22:22:40] speedwell : Life liberty and the pursuit of happyness. That is my job. Gov's job is to not get in the way of that. I am the master, they are the servant. [2026-05-13 22:23:00] neki : Luke Short: and also, corps dont serve higher good. only their individual good. Maybe they benefit the wider public, but they serve only themselves (making profit) in the end. [2026-05-13 22:23:22] speedwell : They want to flip that. Make me servant them master. [2026-05-13 22:23:24] neki : So the benefit is accidental, never intentional- [2026-05-13 22:23:53] Luke Short : speedwell: alright. then care for your health yourself, pay back the costs of your schooleducation, etc. OR let's say OK it wasn't your joice so far, but don't expect any more from the system from now on. no internet, no electricity, etc.. what are you doing man [2026-05-13 22:24:11] speedwell : Look after cow good, so big and fat when kill. [2026-05-13 22:24:20] Luke Short : build your own infrastructure [2026-05-13 22:24:23] Luke Short : idc [2026-05-13 22:24:26] Gandalf the Grey : 88k comiiin [2026-05-13 22:24:38] Gandalf the Grey : enjoy short scalping for now [2026-05-13 22:24:50] speedwell : Luke Short: no bro, I get it all on my terms. [2026-05-13 22:25:01] Luke Short : speedwell: good luck with that [2026-05-13 22:25:11] Luke Short : see you in the woods then [2026-05-13 22:25:28] Luke Short : or the prison [2026-05-13 22:25:35] speedwell : Like I said. They are the servant. If they don't want to serve, then fuc off. [2026-05-13 22:26:07] Luke Short : serving the comunity, the public. you are not the public. [2026-05-13 22:26:39] speedwell : It's called a 'Trust' [2026-05-13 22:26:52] speedwell : I hold a share, by birth [2026-05-13 22:27:00] speedwell : Birth right [2026-05-13 22:27:23] speedwell : You seem to have it all backwards [2026-05-13 22:27:39] Luke Short : yeah. everyone trusts on my to do my work correctly and by the law. no personal opinions, no unfairness whatsoever. i know that, i respect that and i think about it all the time. But somehow you lost your trust. that's a you-problem bro [2026-05-13 22:28:43] speedwell : My benefit. If somebody preaches the trust, would you trust them? [2026-05-13 22:29:08] Luke Short : no, but where does the goverment preaches that? it doesn't... at least never did to me [2026-05-13 22:29:24] Luke Short : maybe they should recall for some people [2026-05-13 22:29:38] GodBleesYou : Only Mo!!!!! [2026-05-13 22:29:40] speedwell : You do not follow 'laws' you follow regulations, and policy. [2026-05-13 22:29:44] GodBleesYou : bears are sinners!!! [2026-05-13 22:30:33] Luke Short : speedwell: sure. that's my work. and the rules are ok. some are bad at first or new ones can be unfair, but no rule was so bad that i had to quit my job so far [2026-05-13 22:30:48] Luke Short : it's actually fine. you are absolutely overreacting. 100% [2026-05-13 22:30:49] speedwell : Look up contract law. this is what you are talking about, and you believe in forced contract. which is null and void [2026-05-13 22:31:43] Luke Short : contract law is essential. like one of the oldest laws. what exactly do you believe in, if not in a written promise between to men? [2026-05-13 22:32:00] speedwell : You don't respect my rights, you don't think I have any. [2026-05-13 22:32:17] Luke Short : where did i say that? [2026-05-13 22:32:28] speedwell : You think Gov is like God or something. You have no respect for individuals. [2026-05-13 22:32:40] Luke Short : not at all [2026-05-13 22:33:10] speedwell : Then I have a right to contract or not to contract [2026-05-13 22:33:35] Luke Short : but your individual preferences are not important when it's about following the rules. the rules overweigh your personal feelings, preferences or opinions. [2026-05-13 22:33:47] speedwell : You think I have to accept everythig Gov offers [2026-05-13 22:33:58] Luke Short : that doesn't make you as an individual less worthy or anything like that. you are just not above the rules [2026-05-13 22:34:25] speedwell : Luke Short: That is where you are wrong. My rights are higher than gov [2026-05-13 22:34:36] Luke Short : speedwell: you have to accept the laws, bro. just the laws [2026-05-13 22:35:17] speedwell : The Law, yes. Do no harm. But legislation, now that is something different, you are conflating the two [2026-05-13 22:36:48] Luke Short : what's wrong with legislation? except it not being flawless and driven by humans and politics.. which leads to failures... but over time legislation works fine and laws get better and better the longer they exist [2026-05-13 22:37:00] speedwell : You thing Gov is supreme. But it is subservient to the people. The power resides with the people. [2026-05-13 22:37:25] Luke Short : speedwell: it is supreme vs you as an individual. [2026-05-13 22:38:02] speedwell : No, it is not. My rights are not granted by the state. [2026-05-13 22:38:24] Luke Short : get into politics if you want to change anything... or get back to trading, get rich and buy yourself some stupid votes [2026-05-13 22:38:37] speedwell : hehe [2026-05-13 22:38:55] Luke Short : but relax. it's all good [2026-05-13 22:38:56] Luke Short : it really is [2026-05-13 22:39:09] speedwell : untill it isn't [2026-05-13 22:39:20] Luke Short : but that day is not today [2026-05-13 22:39:54] neki : oke bulla [2026-05-13 22:39:56] neki : oke bulla [2026-05-13 22:39:58] neki : oke bulla [2026-05-13 22:40:03] neki : its yo game to close now [2026-05-13 22:40:04] speedwell : Those who no not their rights have none. [2026-05-13 22:40:12] neki : show teddy ure serious [2026-05-13 22:40:20] speedwell : Im short... [2026-05-13 22:40:37] neki : bera bout to feel some rektage a'la close.. bera scared. [2026-05-13 22:40:43] neki : bera knows its oversold.. [2026-05-13 22:40:55] speedwell : looks weak [2026-05-13 22:40:55] neki : bera wishes the buyers are gone [2026-05-13 22:41:10] neki : buht, bera is not treading carefully enough [2026-05-13 22:41:11] speedwell : asia will dump [2026-05-13 22:41:15] Luke Short : 🔻down only🔻 [2026-05-13 22:41:19] Luke Short : sell every bounce [2026-05-13 22:41:38] speedwell : liquidity sweep up...then doom [2026-05-13 22:45:30] neki : Ive fot 3usd on my 83510 1 contract short [2026-05-13 22:45:44] neki : do I sell or hold untill btc = 1 usd? [2026-05-13 22:45:53] neki : 3 usd pnl [2026-05-13 22:46:23] speedwell : I had 10$, now only 1$ [2026-05-13 22:46:49] PeacenLuv : buy the 1hr xbtusd [2026-05-13 22:47:10] speedwell : I only close pos when negitive. [2026-05-13 22:47:55] Luke Short : compared to S&P's and Nasdaq's current bullish action BTC is lacking a lot [2026-05-13 22:48:23] Luke Short : if the stocks/indices start to dump... [2026-05-13 22:48:33] Luke Short : 🔻🔻🔻 [2026-05-13 22:50:40] Gandalf the Grey : 4h is up [2026-05-13 22:50:43] Gandalf the Grey : 1h id down [2026-05-13 22:50:51] Gandalf the Grey : buy the fuking dip to hell [2026-05-13 22:51:00] Gandalf the Grey : 30x [2026-05-13 22:51:03] Gandalf the Grey : no risk no story [2026-05-13 22:54:08] Luke Short : send it 🔻 [2026-05-13 22:55:27] GodBleesYou : Gandalf the Grey: go 250x no risk at all love [2026-05-13 22:55:29] GodBleesYou : Only Mo [2026-05-13 22:58:16] Gandalf the Grey : why can we do like nasdaq [2026-05-13 22:58:27] Gandalf the Grey : *cant [2026-05-13 22:59:51] neki : Gandalf the Grey: nasdaq meh on the WoW [2026-05-13 23:00:02] neki : week to week [2026-05-13 23:00:44] GodBleesYou : Gandalf the Grey: we will do more [2026-05-13 23:01:15] neki : corn much better, its down 3% in the same period but its healthy twe had this dip [2026-05-13 23:03:22] Luke Short : crazy times.. btc healthier than stocks [2026-05-13 23:04:17] Gandalf the Grey : neki: I ordered a massage for you. [2026-05-13 23:04:22] Luke Short : i would like to get to know the person who is buying nasday at ATH after hours after the craziest bullrun [2026-05-13 23:04:25] Gandalf the Grey : btc this pa is unacceptable [2026-05-13 23:04:59] Gandalf the Grey : lol every day is new ATH [2026-05-13 23:05:05] Gandalf the Grey : ride the trend [2026-05-13 23:05:39] Gandalf the Grey : https://www.tradingview.com/x/ugmvqGyh/ [2026-05-13 23:05:44] Gandalf the Grey : lol [2026-05-13 23:09:06] GodBleesYou : Only Mo! [2026-05-13 23:09:21] Luke Short : ok, guess the odds are in their favor. they printed ATHs almost every day the last 30 days [2026-05-13 23:18:04] neki : Gandalf the Grey: yeees... it will show soon :D.. knots are starting to break, chakras are in test-start :D [2026-05-13 23:18:33] Gandalf the Grey : I have hope in you [2026-05-13 23:18:57] neki : Gandalf the Grey: u tp'ed ur 100k position from few days ago? [2026-05-13 23:19:04] Gandalf the Grey : yeah [2026-05-13 23:19:08] neki : long [2026-05-13 23:19:15] neki : good game :) [2026-05-13 23:22:21] Gandalf the Grey : 77k can come tho [2026-05-13 23:22:27] Gandalf the Grey : 200 ema on 4h [2026-05-13 23:22:42] Gandalf the Grey : would be sexy entree if it holds lol [2026-05-13 23:58:02] MrBritcoin : what's the hold up let the brakes off lets get rolling [2026-05-14 00:02:08] Luke Short : ye, quickly get the wick for the daily canlde done so we can dump the rest of the day [2026-05-14 00:02:10] Luke Short : lol [2026-05-14 00:02:33] Luke Short : nobody likes candles without wicks [2026-05-14 00:07:56] Shawn-Williams : Lets fly [2026-05-14 00:08:18] GodBleesYou : Only Mo [2026-05-14 00:08:37] GodBleesYou : Shawn-Williams: no no [2026-05-14 00:08:39] GodBleesYou : :( [2026-05-14 00:08:49] GodBleesYou : Gandalf the Grey: short 250x now [2026-05-14 00:14:07] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated short on `DOGEUSD`: Buy 6 Cont @ 0.1141 ($54.41) [2026-05-14 00:15:33] bluemaster : My "gills" activated. Nice to be back underwater [2026-05-14 00:15:40] bluemaster : /position xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: 225,900 USD @ 80435.6394 ``` [2026-05-14 00:15:46] Shawn-Williams : These btc moves are very very predictable and I am sure people will manage to lose anyhow [2026-05-14 00:15:53] bluemaster : /pnl xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: 0.5653 XBT RPNL, -0.0319 XBT UPNL ``` [2026-05-14 00:15:57] Shawn-Williams : journey to 60k soon [2026-05-14 00:16:04] Gandalf the Grey : bluemaster: Soon up bro [2026-05-14 00:16:17] bluemaster : Gandalf the Grey: soon I will die mate [2026-05-14 00:16:29] Gandalf the Grey : it is ok [2026-05-14 00:16:34] Gandalf the Grey : continue in hell [2026-05-14 00:16:40] bluemaster : I am seek of soon or maybe or I promise [2026-05-14 00:16:46] Gandalf the Grey : i am sure they also have market there [2026-05-14 00:18:39] bluemaster : Gandalf the Grey: Uhh, all the bears died a long time ago, they will make party for me :pepe: [2026-05-14 00:19:54] contract details : make sure to automate your buys [2026-05-14 00:20:04] contract details : until 4026 [2026-05-14 00:25:01] kroleg666 : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7PoZVXV2vA [2026-05-14 00:32:31] Gandalf the Grey : https://www.tradingview.com/x/gN2i1IUx/ bullieve kurwa [2026-05-14 00:38:59] thankyousomuch : bullrun to Mc Donalds [2026-05-14 00:39:27] thankyousomuch : bluemaster: life below 100k is good [2026-05-14 00:44:48] Shawn-Williams : Don't forget to short on this uprise [2026-05-14 00:46:23] GodBleesYou : Gandalf the Grey: yes baby boy [2026-05-14 00:46:29] GodBleesYou : slow steady up [2026-05-14 00:46:35] GodBleesYou : few traps on the way [2026-05-14 00:46:39] GodBleesYou : but only moo [2026-05-14 00:46:47] GodBleesYou : at least till october [2026-05-14 00:46:54] GodBleesYou : but we need shawan bear :( [2026-05-14 00:47:13] PeacenLuv : btc pumpalishuz [2026-05-14 00:47:17] GodBleesYou : :arthur: [2026-05-14 00:47:42] PeacenLuv : 1hr tf [2026-05-14 01:04:42] Gandalf the Grey : it is 4 am [2026-05-14 01:04:46] Gandalf the Grey : and I just ordered pizza [2026-05-14 01:04:49] Gandalf the Grey : fuck the world [2026-05-14 01:05:04] Gandalf the Grey : the lion is not concerned with calories or time [2026-05-14 01:05:12] Gandalf the Grey : the lion does what lion wants [2026-05-14 01:05:14] Gandalf the Grey : xDDDDDD [2026-05-14 01:07:35] PeacenLuv : longstops up 79383 [2026-05-14 01:23:01] GodBleesYou : what borring side ways... [2026-05-14 01:23:06] GodBleesYou : :( [2026-05-14 01:23:28] GodBleesYou : Gandalf the Grey: <3 [2026-05-14 01:37:02] Shiro : :pepe: [2026-05-14 01:37:38] Shiro : This poopoo going back to sub 60 😶🙃 [2026-05-14 01:38:06] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated long on `SUIUSDT`: Sell 77.4000 SUI @ 1.2031 ($93.07) [2026-05-14 01:38:32] Shiro : If 77 collapse probably 72 coming [2026-05-14 01:38:42] Shiro : :pepe: [2026-05-14 01:39:54] kroleg666 : first stop 0 [2026-05-14 01:39:56] kroleg666 : dw [2026-05-14 01:40:38] Shiro : Might going back to 59-60k for double bottom and moon from there or 40k [2026-05-14 01:40:43] Shiro : 😶🌚 [2026-05-14 01:41:04] kroleg666 : put buy orders at 0 [2026-05-14 01:41:31] kroleg666 : as soon as it triggers MSTR liquidation - it's all over [2026-05-14 01:41:57] thankyousomuch : Longers long straight into Mc Donalds [2026-05-14 01:41:59] kroleg666 : small bounce from 0 but we'll never see above 1k ever again [2026-05-14 01:42:07] kroleg666 : in the end quantum computers will end it [2026-05-14 01:42:07] Shiro : I don't care if this going much lower I'll start to buy and add to my holdings from sub 60s on all the way down to 16k 🤣🌚 [2026-05-14 01:42:17] thankyousomuch : bullrun to 1k @kroleg666 then bearmarket to 10k [2026-05-14 01:43:27] Shiro : I don't know why I haven't short this at 82 :pepe: [2026-05-14 01:43:42] Shiro : And don't have balls to do it here [2026-05-14 01:44:10] Shiro : But if you have short it here all the way to sub 60 [2026-05-14 01:44:23] thankyousomuch : :Arthur:📹🐃 [2026-05-14 01:45:03] Shiro : Bearmarket for next 1000 years [2026-05-14 01:45:11] Shiro : :arthur: [2026-05-14 01:45:27] thankyousomuch : for btc yes [2026-05-14 01:45:51] kroleg666 : THEY ARE HERE https://www.war.gov/UFO/ [2026-05-14 01:46:02] Shiro : Next pump due to next century 🌚 [2026-05-14 02:10:58] PeacenLuv : looks like a rounded bottom on the resistance up kinda weird topside nice curve teacup reverz or something im gunna loay down a curve arc pr watevr as resistance on top of candles [2026-05-14 02:11:33] PeacenLuv : im also chillin on 3min and i like 3hr bullish xbtusd [2026-05-14 02:14:22] PeacenLuv : odds r bullishpop inbound lezgohh btc [2026-05-14 02:19:56] PeacenLuv : 1hr trend change inbound 1 hr tunnel abov at 80233 and 80583 [2026-05-14 02:20:08] PeacenLuv : a gnote top of tunnel usd [2026-05-14 02:20:15] PeacenLuv : time it [2026-05-14 02:20:26] PeacenLuv : here she blowz [2026-05-14 02:22:22] PeacenLuv : hang the vukkon btc bullaz lookout abov lozers set all orders above here below gfy [2026-05-14 02:22:28] PeacenLuv : woooohhhweeee [2026-05-14 02:23:05] Shawn-Williams : This is going to be a very little erection after that much of blue pill [2026-05-14 02:23:10] PeacenLuv : btc forevuhh n eternityyyy [2026-05-14 02:23:11] Shawn-Williams : btc lost its power man [2026-05-14 02:23:51] Shawn-Williams : will get few seconds to short it on this uprise [2026-05-14 02:25:26] PeacenLuv : chek vol 3min xbtusdperp bullish [2026-05-14 02:25:41] PeacenLuv : pooff theres sum [2026-05-14 02:28:24] PeacenLuv : wheres supply [2026-05-14 02:28:32] PeacenLuv : you may be sulized [2026-05-14 02:28:40] PeacenLuv : supplized* [2026-05-14 02:32:42] PeacenLuv : mkt shud meet abov here [2026-05-14 02:33:02] PeacenLuv : maybe ill take bak all bad ive zed about cz [2026-05-14 02:34:12] PeacenLuv : startin 3wave up with general uptrend off a sollid bottom earlier its a quik jurnee [2026-05-14 02:34:43] PeacenLuv : actually we r in 1 of 3 not starting its in process [2026-05-14 02:35:40] PeacenLuv : this baby affter a complicated 4 and short time period prolly then wave 5 grand cycle supercycle duz 5th wave extensions into stratosphere n past [2026-05-14 02:35:46] PeacenLuv : intergallaktik btc [2026-05-14 02:36:05] PeacenLuv : k sarahhh [2026-05-14 02:37:13] PeacenLuv : 127 to 59k wasnt even 68% retrace consolidation firming up like still bully from a buck [2026-05-14 02:53:06] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated long on `XBTUSDT`: Sell 1 XBT @ 79256.3 ($79,226.74) - Bro fomo’d in at the top like it’s 2021 again [2026-05-14 02:53:32] speedwell : are we off? [2026-05-14 02:55:19] PeacenLuv : k 2 wave has to finish oops . wave 1 smaller about to begin after dip [2026-05-14 03:02:32] PeacenLuv : entring longs 79758 n lower [2026-05-14 03:03:13] PeacenLuv : there buying below not here [2026-05-14 03:04:04] PeacenLuv : take a breather long lower sell inro yppressure [2026-05-14 03:04:26] PeacenLuv : uppressure will fade [2026-05-14 03:04:48] PeacenLuv : sell here strait forward [2026-05-14 03:05:45] PeacenLuv : dont try to b the hero zero [2026-05-14 03:09:27] thankyousomuch : Michael Saylor will help to zero [2026-05-14 03:15:47] PeacenLuv : somehow on 1 hr it cup handle [2026-05-14 03:15:59] PeacenLuv : upsidedown or something [2026-05-14 03:16:16] PeacenLuv : 3min ugly [2026-05-14 03:16:27] PeacenLuv : chennelin down [2026-05-14 03:16:51] PeacenLuv : wedgeed down 3min bullish [2026-05-14 03:17:02] PeacenLuv : on a low is good soon on break [2026-05-14 03:18:15] PeacenLuv : more dip inbound [2026-05-14 03:18:39] PeacenLuv : hit falling resistance on falling wedge [2026-05-14 03:19:11] PeacenLuv : if it breaks 79094 hav mercy [2026-05-14 03:19:43] thankyousomuch : if? [2026-05-14 03:21:02] PeacenLuv : vukkkkkk munnneeeeeee [2026-05-14 03:21:03] thankyousomuch : one day we will understnad Bull run [2026-05-14 03:21:16] thankyousomuch : but until then we can short 100-1000x no sl [2026-05-14 03:22:59] thankyousomuch : hehe bull run :pepeb: [2026-05-14 03:28:41] Shawn-Williams : time for a small launch [2026-05-14 03:30:03] PeacenLuv : 77777inbound [2026-05-14 03:32:04] Shawn-Williams : keep your shorts ready and we will get good entry on this uprise [2026-05-14 03:33:31] PeacenLuv : long entry btc 70272 pumpittup lezgohh [2026-05-14 03:33:49] PeacenLuv : broke outof falling wedge on 3min bullish [2026-05-14 03:34:04] PeacenLuv : check 3min vol [2026-05-14 03:34:06] PeacenLuv : seeee [2026-05-14 03:34:32] PeacenLuv : weeeeeeehhhhh btccccc if it dont save u its gunna kill u [2026-05-14 03:36:11] Shawn-Williams : world is sleeping and very very few people are awake to make new position [2026-05-14 03:36:25] Shawn-Williams : this is good time for good uprise and short position formation [2026-05-14 03:38:19] PeacenLuv : long the red 1hr btc [2026-05-14 03:38:31] PeacenLuv : 3min is redtoo its along [2026-05-14 03:39:14] thankyousomuch : life below 100k formation [2026-05-14 03:42:21] PeacenLuv : tested it supports proven [2026-05-14 03:50:23] PeacenLuv : btfd btc [2026-05-14 03:53:03] thankyousomuch : sell Mc donalds [2026-05-14 04:13:32] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated short on `SUIUSD`: Buy 10 Cont @ 1.21 ($9.59)