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[2025-12-07 13:53:46] ScatScalp : this happen more than 9 years in sequence
[2025-12-07 13:53:55] Benobi : Pattern seems to say 89600, then oblivion at least to 88k
[2025-12-07 13:54:00] ScatScalp : check all past years you going to see this strange pattern
[2025-12-07 13:54:13] Benobi : well if it does, you can bet that they know you count on that.
[2025-12-07 13:54:16] ScatScalp : pump 100-200% dump 20-80% then pumpo back
[2025-12-07 13:54:30] Benobi : on what timing ?
[2025-12-07 13:54:35] ScatScalp : i am not just speculate on this pattern but using flow and spread data
[2025-12-07 13:54:37] Benobi : what timing are you talking about ?
[2025-12-07 13:54:49] ScatScalp : check all years from November to Feb
[2025-12-07 13:54:51] MrBritcoin : ScatScalp: personally history would suggest its going to 102k
[2025-12-07 13:55:03] ScatScalp : hmm we need first break 92.500
[2025-12-07 13:55:14] ScatScalp : first step 90k-91300-92500-100+++
[2025-12-07 13:55:22] ScatScalp : market going to fomo fater 93
[2025-12-07 13:55:25] ScatScalp : after*
[2025-12-07 13:55:26] Mr. JB : Pick up some buyers 3k lower from here
[2025-12-07 13:55:33] MrBritcoin : if the bear flag is true on the 1d it should hunt traders all above
[2025-12-07 13:55:38] ScatScalp : ill keep strong my bottom trade
[2025-12-07 13:55:45] ScatScalp : /position xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: 19,300 USD @ 88961.6397 ```
[2025-12-07 13:55:48] ScatScalp : let see what happen
[2025-12-07 13:56:41] Mr. JB : ScatScalp: you just opened that ar is it older already?
[2025-12-07 13:56:51] ScatScalp : open now in the dump
[2025-12-07 13:57:10] ScatScalp : the older i got stop
[2025-12-07 13:57:22] Mr. JB : allright, let's see. Can you hold sub 87?
[2025-12-07 13:57:29] Mr. JB : Or add and pull it down?
[2025-12-07 13:57:55] Mr. JB : /position xbtusd mine is new too. 1 hour now ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: -2,000 USD @ 89436.6 ```
[2025-12-07 13:58:56] ScatScalp : maybe ill add more after 90k break
[2025-12-07 14:01:46] Mr. JB : max 89.2 before next move down
[2025-12-07 14:03:11] neki : u guys really betting on weak december - historically I dont see it
[2025-12-07 14:03:30] ScatScalp : thats is the point bro
[2025-12-07 14:03:44] ScatScalp : nobody will expect the bounce back
[2025-12-07 14:03:50] WinstonChurchill : wen moon?
[2025-12-07 14:03:53] ScatScalp : and when all woke up ill be late
[2025-12-07 14:03:57] ScatScalp : WinstonChurchill: WHEN LAMBO
[2025-12-07 14:04:12] WinstonChurchill : ScatScalp: never
[2025-12-07 14:04:12] Mr. JB : WinstonChurchill: after 86 sir when it holds
[2025-12-07 14:04:19] ScatScalp : HA HA HA @WinstonChurchill
[2025-12-07 14:04:23] ScatScalp : YOU ARE HILARIOUS
[2025-12-07 14:04:32] ScatScalp : 😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄
[2025-12-07 14:04:38] WinstonChurchill : We will never see 100k again
[2025-12-07 14:04:42] WinstonChurchill : Screenshot this!
[2025-12-07 14:05:02] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated long on `ETHUSDT`: Sell 0.0700 ETH @ 3023.51 ($211.67)
[2025-12-07 14:05:07] ScatScalp : oK SO
[2025-12-07 14:05:09] ScatScalp : Let see
[2025-12-07 14:05:38] Mr. JB : WinstonChurchill: if this move turns out to be a breaking leg daown, reulting in 40% flashcrasch i would be very hurmoured. We can long 52 tonight.. :-P
[2025-12-07 14:05:51] neki : sudo pump now . bye bear
[2025-12-07 14:06:05] ScatScalp : the bears are most funny kind of person in the markets
[2025-12-07 14:06:18] ScatScalp : when 0?
[2025-12-07 14:13:38] Mr. JB : Goin to close weekly @86 and take off from 86 up tomorrow at opening EU markets. Thats my prediction. If it goes lower than 84, were doomed and bearflag might play out to 60 something.
[2025-12-07 14:16:29] ScatScalp : just 00:00 UTC now bro
[2025-12-07 14:17:09] REKTakaMagicTric : any cadimatic users here? what is ur option autocad vs cadimatic or is cadimatic good to make files for autocad...
[2025-12-07 14:18:00] ScatScalp : Skeetchup is good
[2025-12-07 14:18:26] ScatScalp : i used in college when studying design
[2025-12-07 14:19:03] REKTakaMagicTric : ps. will i get rekt before 2026 or not , rising bets daily, gettin cross marging long and short , also using alt account to long/short same coin.. how this gonna end up? normaly --> miscalcualting end rekt before i understand why
[2025-12-07 14:19:05] ScatScalp : HOLLY SHIT WICK
[2025-12-07 14:19:26] ScatScalp : closed few contracts keep strong
[2025-12-07 14:19:39] ScatScalp : /position xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: 15,400 USD @ 88961.6397 ```
[2025-12-07 14:19:43] ScatScalp : go dont stop bulls
[2025-12-07 14:20:18] ScatScalp : that fake dump
[2025-12-07 14:20:22] ScatScalp : Bulltrap
[2025-12-07 14:20:30] ScatScalp : ops bear
[2025-12-07 14:20:34] Mr. JB : double bottom 83.8 would be great!
[2025-12-07 14:20:58] Nullo : 88.3?
[2025-12-07 14:21:18] Mr. JB : /orders xbtusd rn i only have tp orders there, no flip long yet. ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: Buy 1,000 USD @ 83894 XBTUSD: Buy 900 USD @ 86943.5 XBTUSD: Buy 1,900 USD @ undefined ```
[2025-12-07 14:21:43] "it will be........" : .
[2025-12-07 14:22:07] Dr.van_Doom666 : DOOM!!!!!!!!!
[2025-12-07 14:22:22] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 4000 USD @ 88697.7
[2025-12-07 14:22:43] ScatScalp : classic
[2025-12-07 14:22:57] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 14900 USD @ 88600.6
[2025-12-07 14:22:57] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated long on `DOGEUSDT`: Sell 39710 DOGE @ 0.13723 ($5,449.68) - Welcome to the 95% club, population: you
[2025-12-07 14:23:17] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 11000 USD @ 88538.3
[2025-12-07 14:24:17] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 600 USD @ 88523.5 - Your portfolio is now halal: 100% slaughtered
[2025-12-07 14:24:22] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated long on `XRPUSDT`: Sell 3000 XRP @ 2.0157 ($6,048.03) - Another soul claimed by the perpetual futures demon
[2025-12-07 14:24:32] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1700 USD @ 88436.4
[2025-12-07 14:24:36] REKTakaMagicTric : idk im hard on w8ing for early february become bull of year , this last 3month dump have been big disappoint.. w8 for more panic and chaos... feels like ppl learned to use stops on crypto market
[2025-12-07 14:24:43] REKTakaMagicTric : wow nvm
[2025-12-07 14:24:57] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated long on `SUIUSDT`: Sell 126.8000 SUI @ 1.5269 ($193.65)
[2025-12-07 14:24:57] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated long on `AVAXUSDT`: Sell 19.8000 AVAX @ 13.094 ($259.34)
[2025-12-07 14:24:57] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated long on `APTUSD`: Sell 119 Cont @ 1.684 ($176.97)
[2025-12-07 14:24:57] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated long on `WLDUSDT`: Sell 329 WLD @ 0.56 ($184.27)
[2025-12-07 14:24:57] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated long on `FILUSD`: Sell 14 Cont @ 1.4371 ($177.68)
[2025-12-07 14:24:57] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated long on `FILUSDT`: Sell 124 FIL @ 1.4371 ($178.19)
[2025-12-07 14:24:57] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated long on `ARBUSDT`: Sell 900 ARB @ 0.2016 ($181.53)
[2025-12-07 14:24:57] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated long on `ENAUSDT`: Sell 920 ENA @ 0.2518 ($231.66)
[2025-12-07 14:24:57] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated long on `SEIUSDT`: Sell 1300 SEI @ 0.1263 ($164.19)
[2025-12-07 14:24:57] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 5200 USD @ 88314.3
[2025-12-07 14:25:08] Dr.van_Doom666 : TIMBRT
[2025-12-07 14:25:11] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated long on `XBTUSDT`: Sell 0.1277 XBT @ 88264 ($11,278.48)
[2025-12-07 14:25:15] Dr.van_Doom666 : TIMBER!!!
[2025-12-07 14:25:16] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated long on `ETHUSD`: Sell 9 Cont @ 2961.29 ($2,350.40) - Your net worth just pulled a 2022 bear market cosplay
[2025-12-07 14:25:40] REKTakaMagicTric : lol ronnie the rext, pulls +20 rekts when i was thinking that ppl learned their stops
[2025-12-07 14:25:41] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 7300 USD @ 88065.2
[2025-12-07 14:26:06] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 131600 USD @ 88017.3 - Another future McDonald’s employee
[2025-12-07 14:26:11] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated long on `XBTUSDT`: Sell 0.2900 XBT @ 87833.9 ($25,487.79) - Your portfolio just pulled a Do Kwon disappearing act
[2025-12-07 14:26:20] Dr.van_Doom666 : WELCOME TO HELL BULLTARDS!!!!
[2025-12-07 14:26:57] ScatScalp : Dr.van_Doom666: Not too early
[2025-12-07 14:27:35] 45th_blown_account : bitconneeeeeee
[2025-12-07 14:27:36] ScatScalp : SURPISE MF HAHAHAHAHAHA @Dr.van_Doom666
[2025-12-07 14:33:07] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated long on `XBTM26`: Sell 4900 USD @ 90238.5
[2025-12-07 14:33:07] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 300 USD @ 87824.7 - Your portfolio is now halal: 100% slaughtered
[2025-12-07 14:33:12] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated long on `SOLUSDT`: Sell 27.2100 SOL @ 127.93 ($3,481.60) - Your net worth just pulled a 2022 bear market cosplay
[2025-12-07 14:34:21] Dario1 : pew pew
[2025-12-07 14:35:02] REKTakaMagicTric : fk, this, i just started buy long knowing it one of the worst long coint to buy if bear markets not over, im idiot ^2 or just womr
[2025-12-07 14:35:24] neki : eh,,endless dumpfest
[2025-12-07 14:36:03] REKTakaMagicTric : well im ready, i dont mind if sol dumps to 40-50 range, still gonna buy more for long
[2025-12-07 14:36:09] Fliphodl : told ys
[2025-12-07 14:36:30] WinstonChurchill : lol
[2025-12-07 14:36:36] WinstonChurchill : 71k in no time
[2025-12-07 14:36:45] ScatScalp : Bears just had a small taste of some dump
[2025-12-07 14:36:52] ScatScalp : time to bulls taste they pump now
[2025-12-07 14:37:25] REKTakaMagicTric : hayy my long rekt on btc comes at 74k :D, well i fuell it with other btc short position 5/5
[2025-12-07 14:37:34] 45th_blown_account : BMEX -11% :arthur:. how deep is your love Arthur :arthur:
[2025-12-07 14:37:48] 45th_blown_account : -8% :pepe:
[2025-12-07 14:38:40] REKTakaMagicTric : what happen or how it gonna happen if this site get bancrupt? or does it work as arthur's personal bank atm?
[2025-12-07 14:43:01] Mr. JB : 868 first tp . fill it
[2025-12-07 14:46:08] Mr. JB : More down from here again
[2025-12-07 14:46:32] Mr. JB : 86.7 inc
[2025-12-07 14:46:34] REKTakaMagicTric : daam fking rectangles, i know my next name its gonna be RektAngel
[2025-12-07 14:46:49] kroleg666 : 0 today?
[2025-12-07 14:50:24] PeacenLuv : bought the dip long entry 88169
[2025-12-07 14:50:47] PeacenLuv : pumpittup btc
[2025-12-07 14:59:40] neki : lol now undump?
[2025-12-07 15:00:09] contract details : short every bounce forever
[2025-12-07 15:02:57] WinstonChurchill : We will make a new low in a few hours
[2025-12-07 15:03:36] REKTakaMagicTric : w8 for, or is there allready trading bot who use ai for analysis, so called ai integrated trading bots
[2025-12-07 15:05:14] Mr. JB : What happened to our Grey wizard?
[2025-12-07 15:05:29] REKTakaMagicTric : big companies investing in cpu and gpu who use for data transfare light inside computing mashines >______< for ai but for sure there is much more things for what they work
[2025-12-07 15:07:20] neki : just checking if i am getting delayed feed... the current price is 94k yes?
[2025-12-07 15:07:48] ScatScalp : i told ya
[2025-12-07 15:07:49] ScatScalp : hahaha
[2025-12-07 15:07:57] ScatScalp : cheers
[2025-12-07 15:08:10] DMC2 : any longers here please?
[2025-12-07 15:08:36] neki : yea
[2025-12-07 15:08:46] neki : gotta get unrekt
[2025-12-07 15:09:10] DMC2 : neki: ru a bulltard?
[2025-12-07 15:10:11] Mr. JB : Short 89 for now sirs
[2025-12-07 15:10:27] neki : DMC2: naah just regular retard
[2025-12-07 15:10:57] PeacenLuv : pumpittup btc
[2025-12-07 15:11:01] neki : i could be described as rekttard
[2025-12-07 15:11:41] PeacenLuv : DMC2: pumpalishuz btc longittup
[2025-12-07 15:11:54] neki : ever since my first unwanted liquiidation, ive been hooked to bitmex. cannot find dcecent pain anywhere else
[2025-12-07 15:12:36] WinstonChurchill : SCAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAM
[2025-12-07 15:12:43] WinstonChurchill : TO HELL WITH CRYPTO!
[2025-12-07 15:12:53] WinstonChurchill : STORE OF VALUE? STORE OF **BULLSHlT!**
[2025-12-07 15:14:21] DMC2 : Mr. JB: but sir u were longing?
[2025-12-07 15:14:40] DMC2 : PeacenLuv: but the question is wen moon?
[2025-12-07 15:14:41] ScatScalp : WinstonChurchill: the taste of dump is good huh, but when are our time to taste pumps you got mad
[2025-12-07 15:14:42] ScatScalp : HAHAHA
[2025-12-07 15:14:47] ScatScalp : YOU ARE HILARIOUS
[2025-12-07 15:14:52] MrBritcoin : send eet for the store of wealth we know it is
[2025-12-07 15:14:54] Mr. JB : I was rekt a few days ago. Deposited to long 86 tonight/tomorrow, but short for the end of week.
[2025-12-07 15:15:23] DMC2 : Mr. JB: strategy seems to be working
[2025-12-07 15:17:21] GoldFish79 : /position xbtm26 ``` :bitmex: XBTM26: -1,000 USD @ 93946 ```
[2025-12-07 15:17:29] Mr. JB : IF we dont go higher here.
[2025-12-07 15:17:35] Mr. JB : /position xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: -2,000 USD @ 89436.6 ```
[2025-12-07 15:17:44] GoldFish79 : /position solusd ``` :bitmex: SOLUSD: -15 Cont @ 145.83 ```
[2025-12-07 15:17:51] GoldFish79 : /position shibusdt ``` :bitmex: SHIBUSDT: -8,300,000 SHIB @ 0.0000093517 ```
[2025-12-07 15:24:06] Mr. JB : Bring me 86.3 please
[2025-12-07 15:24:40] Mr. JB : With a wick to 84 to flip long for next week.
[2025-12-07 15:25:06] Mr. JB : For 107
[2025-12-07 15:25:17] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated short on `FARTCOINUSDT`: Buy 13 FARTCOIN @ 0.3789 ($4.69)
[2025-12-07 15:26:02] WinstonChurchill : GO FARTCOIN GO
[2025-12-07 15:30:18] Tfs : We’ll go up heavy here - longs are making it back from Monday. Get in now
[2025-12-07 15:30:55] WinstonChurchill : Tfs: we wont
[2025-12-07 15:31:04] Mr. JB : I would be dissapointed and wait for another opportunity if we dont go lower than 87.8
[2025-12-07 15:31:05] WinstonChurchill : We will never see 90k again
[2025-12-07 15:31:38] GoldFish79 : whattya lien for
[2025-12-07 15:32:23] Mr. JB : I wont close short just yet. Hold on to initial plan. At least 86 to tp from short and enter long. Most probably tomorrow mornig on opening EU markets.
[2025-12-07 15:32:37] Mr. JB : For now till then, only down
[2025-12-07 15:32:48] Mr. JB : Slow
[2025-12-07 15:33:11] Mr. JB : We'll bounce a bit again @ 86.6
[2025-12-07 15:34:38] Mr. JB : I have flip long order @83664 just in case for now.
[2025-12-07 15:37:38] PeacenLuv : https://www.tradingview.com/x/LN2tqWka/ btcz gewd to go here
[2025-12-07 15:37:47] PeacenLuv : purpl horizontalz locked
[2025-12-07 15:39:01] PeacenLuv : https://www.tradingview.com/x/AXN5eM8n/ anuthr bullish 1hr longstops 88508
[2025-12-07 15:39:33] PeacenLuv : https://www.tradingview.com/x/04uTTQld/ tweeked it up use purpl
[2025-12-07 15:39:54] PeacenLuv : good dip for btc longerz
[2025-12-07 15:44:29] Daanren : lol wen lambos?
[2025-12-07 15:45:02] PeacenLuv : longstops up 88758
[2025-12-07 15:45:33] GoldFish79 : 2025 year of the nissan micra
[2025-12-07 15:48:02] PeacenLuv : https://www.tradingview.com/x/Ngopojl2/ bullish lines on a 1hr
[2025-12-07 15:48:48] 45th_blown_account : :me:
[2025-12-07 15:49:48] Mr. JB : Get it a bit lower guys. 3k is enough
[2025-12-07 15:50:36] Mr. JB : Sell now
[2025-12-07 15:50:43] Mr. JB : 89k short
[2025-12-07 15:51:06] Mr. JB : SL 89600
[2025-12-07 15:53:06] PeacenLuv : https://www.tradingview.com/x/9FSHqK0p/ 1hr lines btc
[2025-12-07 15:54:03] PeacenLuv : incoming pump btc
[2025-12-07 15:54:08] PeacenLuv : woooooohhhh
[2025-12-07 15:54:20] PeacenLuv : vukkkkmeeeeee
[2025-12-07 15:54:39] PeacenLuv : longstops up 89111
[2025-12-07 15:54:44] PeacenLuv : lezgohhh btc
[2025-12-07 15:55:30] PeacenLuv : https://www.tradingview.com/x/R1qKsgGr/ gold btc use it to buy btc
[2025-12-07 15:55:32] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 1000 USD @ 89377.7
[2025-12-07 15:55:38] PeacenLuv : support on chart too
[2025-12-07 15:56:02] neki : go figure
[2025-12-07 15:56:04] WinstonChurchill : We will never see 100k again
[2025-12-07 15:56:16] PeacenLuv : https://www.tradingview.com/x/7oy8gggB/ heres munneee hunneeee btc 1hr
[2025-12-07 15:56:17] WinstonChurchill : This will drop like a rock within minutes!
[2025-12-07 15:56:25] WinstonChurchill : Screenshot this!
[2025-12-07 15:56:50] PeacenLuv : start of 1 is this recent bottom
[2025-12-07 15:56:57] PeacenLuv : 😁😁
[2025-12-07 15:57:27] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 1000 USD @ 89644.7
[2025-12-07 15:57:34] WinstonChurchill : TO HELL WITH CRYPTO!
[2025-12-07 15:57:34] PeacenLuv : woooooohhhhhh btc
[2025-12-07 15:57:37] blaster33 : /position xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: 10,000 USD @ 87811.7316 ```
[2025-12-07 15:57:39] ScatScalp : HAHAHAHA
[2025-12-07 15:57:42] ScatScalp : WELCOME TO HELL BEARS
[2025-12-07 15:58:03] PeacenLuv : bear hell 244k
[2025-12-07 15:58:08] WinstonChurchill : Big dump loading...
[2025-12-07 15:58:13] ScatScalp : HAHHA no bro 240k unreal
[2025-12-07 15:58:15] ScatScalp : 100k at least
[2025-12-07 15:58:22] PeacenLuv : ScatScalp: 😁
[2025-12-07 15:58:30] PeacenLuv : 8milly usd per 1 btc
[2025-12-07 15:58:36] ScatScalp : huhuhuh
[2025-12-07 15:58:41] ScatScalp : :D
[2025-12-07 15:58:41] WinstonChurchill : PeacenLuv: -1
[2025-12-07 15:58:51] 45th_blown_account : bear trap : ` do it` some bearas motivation :kek:
[2025-12-07 15:58:53] ScatScalp : anyone here play path of exilie:
[2025-12-07 15:58:56] ScatScalp : lets go exilies
[2025-12-07 15:58:59] PeacenLuv : i werked it out earlier with maff
[2025-12-07 15:59:04] PeacenLuv : ScatScalp: 😁
[2025-12-07 15:59:25] PeacenLuv : 10x 888k
[2025-12-07 15:59:51] PeacenLuv : 100x btc 8.88 milly per unit
[2025-12-07 15:59:57] PeacenLuv : big ranch
[2025-12-07 16:00:12] PeacenLuv : for meat cowz
[2025-12-07 16:00:17] PeacenLuv : 😁
[2025-12-07 16:00:24] ScatScalp : i rekt in bmex but i have long in bitget at 88k 0.4 btc
[2025-12-07 16:00:36] WinstonChurchill : ScatScalp: rekt
[2025-12-07 16:00:41] ScatScalp : min profit for this more less 5-10k
[2025-12-07 16:00:44] PeacenLuv : ScatScalp: scam exchange
[2025-12-07 16:00:48] ScatScalp : expecting 100k btc price
[2025-12-07 16:00:52] PeacenLuv : b careful
[2025-12-07 16:00:53] GoldFish79 : AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
[2025-12-07 16:00:59] PeacenLuv : u only think u hav there
[2025-12-07 16:01:00] ScatScalp : Ohhh what happen to you in BG? @PeacenLuv
[2025-12-07 16:01:03] WinstonChurchill : bitget = bitrekt
[2025-12-07 16:01:10] ScatScalp : i am Bmex user since 2019 /since
[2025-12-07 16:01:14] ScatScalp : /since ``` :bitmex: ScatScalp has been on BitMEX since Dec 10, 2019. ```
[2025-12-07 16:01:15] PeacenLuv : ScatScalp: dont trust any
[2025-12-07 16:01:19] PeacenLuv : ttyl peace
[2025-12-07 16:01:25] PeacenLuv : youll find out
[2025-12-07 16:01:38] ScatScalp : hahaha @WinstonChurchill good one, i hear lot people talking good and bad about they
[2025-12-07 16:02:17] PeacenLuv : you need black presisent of usa
[2025-12-07 16:02:33] Mr. JB : Enough playing around. We need lower before new week starts.
[2025-12-07 16:02:45] PeacenLuv : and blak guys runnin yur exchanges too prolly noone trusts white guyz anymore
[2025-12-07 16:02:55] PeacenLuv : 😁😁
[2025-12-07 16:03:43] PeacenLuv : lookat churchill
[2025-12-07 16:04:19] WinstonChurchill : PeacenLuv: +1000
[2025-12-07 16:04:22] Mr. JB : I have +20% on deposit already and just reshorted. I want lower to long... Dump it a bit
[2025-12-07 16:04:38] PeacenLuv : https://www.tradingview.com/x/0Jigra6q/ incoming 1hr pump btc
[2025-12-07 16:05:00] PeacenLuv : hangonn btc bullaz
[2025-12-07 16:05:44] PeacenLuv : gunna b boomchukalukahhhh bingbangboom pump btc
[2025-12-07 16:06:18] PeacenLuv : just closed a big 1hr green
[2025-12-07 16:06:46] PeacenLuv : 1550 usd long 1 hr
[2025-12-07 16:06:58] PeacenLuv : nice pay on 1 btc long
[2025-12-07 16:10:45] ninnk : tonight at 11
[2025-12-07 16:11:36] WinstonChurchill : Now we go to 71k
[2025-12-07 16:11:37] Tfs : Up we go boys
[2025-12-07 16:11:41] WinstonChurchill : We have enough momentum now
[2025-12-07 16:11:48] WinstonChurchill : Nosedive to 71k -> then 54k
[2025-12-07 16:12:08] Tfs : Winston why you always say down. We are looking great to bounce here
[2025-12-07 16:12:16] WinstonChurchill : Tfs: rekt
[2025-12-07 16:18:34] neki : how does price manage to stop all of a sudden never cveases to amaze me. who turned on the circuit breeker?
[2025-12-07 16:23:50] Mr. JB : Omg 1m so exciting to watch just not suitable to base trades on
[2025-12-07 16:25:03] Mr. JB : Was it beartrap to begin with or will it turn out to be a bulltrap?
[2025-12-07 16:25:25] Fliphodl : we go up now
[2025-12-07 16:25:32] Fliphodl : 97k
[2025-12-07 16:27:25] Dr.van_Doom666 : Fliphodl: rekt
[2025-12-07 16:32:19] Mr. JB : /position xbtusd safe scalp to 84? ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: -4,000 USD @ 89550.3676 ```
[2025-12-07 16:32:34] Symphoenix : 16h34 utc
[2025-12-07 16:32:50] Mr. JB : 2 mins to down? @Symphoenix
[2025-12-07 16:35:47] PeacenLuv : i got invers hns on a 5min to like 91258
[2025-12-07 16:36:01] PeacenLuv : i dunnoh wat the shortz zee never hav
[2025-12-07 16:36:18] PeacenLuv : https://www.tradingview.com/x/CPlpYHnf/ 1hr btc bullish
[2025-12-07 16:36:33] Symphoenix : uppppppppppp
[2025-12-07 16:36:38] PeacenLuv : 89502 stops up
[2025-12-07 16:36:59] PeacenLuv : longs must b killing it cuz i sure am
[2025-12-07 16:38:09] PeacenLuv : https://www.tradingview.com/x/u4ZR57Z0/ btc bully lezgohh 1hr
[2025-12-07 16:41:13] Tfs : Where’s Winston at
[2025-12-07 16:43:13] ScatScalp : Crying in the next 7eleven on his house
[2025-12-07 16:43:20] ScatScalp : now he was to bought some vodka
[2025-12-07 16:43:31] ScatScalp : he getting depressive why market dont dump for 50k
[2025-12-07 16:43:32] ScatScalp : HAHAHAHAHA
[2025-12-07 16:44:09] ScatScalp : Wiston just red no Wiston Light
[2025-12-07 16:46:21] PeacenLuv : loading pump btc longerz
[2025-12-07 16:47:08] PeacenLuv : btc ready freddy lezgohh 1hr
[2025-12-07 16:47:29] PeacenLuv : will b magnificent
[2025-12-07 16:47:30] Symphoenix : about to blast to the upside ! POOMPZILLA is in town !
[2025-12-07 16:47:50] ScatScalp : 🎇🎇🎇🎇🎇🎇🎇🎇🎇🎇🎇🎇🎇🎇🎇🎇🎇🎇🎇🎇🎇🎇🎇🎇🎇🎇🎇🎇🎇🎇
[2025-12-07 16:48:08] PeacenLuv : https://www.tradingview.com/x/zFZ19s9D/ tweeked gold btc
[2025-12-07 16:52:12] PeacenLuv : https://www.tradingview.com/x/yQtcZ4Iv/ thats a lotta wick on thiz 1hr forming
[2025-12-07 16:52:43] PeacenLuv : im selling som 89797 adding abov
[2025-12-07 16:53:18] PeacenLuv : long entry 88423
[2025-12-07 16:54:00] PeacenLuv : 274,33% green btc roe
[2025-12-07 16:54:15] PeacenLuv : williz
[2025-12-07 16:55:32] PeacenLuv : entering the pharaohz chamberz
[2025-12-07 16:55:51] Symphoenix : clear the launchpad !
[2025-12-07 16:56:03] PeacenLuv : i know the spiral force exiztz btc
[2025-12-07 16:57:14] PeacenLuv : i gotta fight my natural instincts now i wanna sell but shud hodl
[2025-12-07 16:57:36] PeacenLuv : let others buy now
[2025-12-07 16:57:50] Tfs : We gonna pump so hard here boys
[2025-12-07 16:57:59] PeacenLuv : i get a cut abov here on arry transaction
[2025-12-07 16:58:55] PeacenLuv : gunna b winzton churchill the 4th at 244k btc
[2025-12-07 17:00:02] PeacenLuv : btc transferrringgggg wealth lezgohhhh
[2025-12-07 17:00:15] PeacenLuv : 274,33% wow pump
[2025-12-07 17:00:42] Symphoenix : POOOOOMPZILLLLAAA !!!!!
[2025-12-07 17:02:35] neki : this fkkin bears
[2025-12-07 17:03:07] neki : get rekt about time.. U done me disservice throughout oct-nov
[2025-12-07 17:04:31] neki : ScatScalp: well traded friend bull
[2025-12-07 17:04:52] ScatScalp : thx m8
[2025-12-07 17:10:26] WinstonChurchill : Dump within minutes
[2025-12-07 17:13:52] Tfs : Winston rekt
[2025-12-07 17:14:20] WinstonChurchill : Apocalyptic dump incoming
[2025-12-07 17:15:54] PeacenLuv : https://www.tradingview.com/x/rcPccS29/ pumpittup sui network token lezgohh
[2025-12-07 17:16:12] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 1500 USD @ 89978.5
[2025-12-07 17:16:22] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated short on `ETHUSD`: Buy 3 Cont @ 3052.39 ($824.41)
[2025-12-07 17:16:32] PeacenLuv : btc pumped off my 1 hr chart https://www.tradingview.com/x/AwlzmAgs/
[2025-12-07 17:17:02] PeacenLuv : https://www.tradingview.com/x/62M4soEI/ thete we r very bully btc
[2025-12-07 17:18:00] WinstonChurchill : XXL Dump loading....
[2025-12-07 17:18:22] 45th_blown_account : good job bois, we trapped the bearaaas, gooooood :Doge:
[2025-12-07 17:18:37] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated short on `ETHUSD`: Buy 10 Cont @ 3075.8 ($2,774.77) - Check your inbox
[2025-12-07 17:20:21] ScatScalp : congrats for who long it
[2025-12-07 17:22:24] WinstonChurchill : TO HELL WITH CRYPTO!
[2025-12-07 17:22:52] ScatScalp : haha HEY WINSTON
[2025-12-07 17:23:01] WinstonChurchill : ScatScalp: +1000
[2025-12-07 17:23:11] ScatScalp : Love u Bruh
[2025-12-07 17:25:03] ScatScalp : targets and projections, 91225-92350-93450-94765-95800-97899-100k ,
[2025-12-07 17:25:29] ScatScalp : 1 week
[2025-12-07 17:26:40] Symphoenix : Oh yeah baby
[2025-12-07 17:26:52] ScatScalp : Symphoenix: Man you name remember me a psy trance artist
[2025-12-07 17:26:53] Symphoenix : Welcome to Butcher Bay !
[2025-12-07 17:27:23] ScatScalp : Symphoenix: Symphonix - Secret of Life (Live Mix) - Official search
[2025-12-07 17:30:37] Symphoenix : ok listening right now
[2025-12-07 17:31:05] WinstonChurchill : SCAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAäAaaaAAAAAAAMMMMM
[2025-12-07 17:31:14] neki : bear is em-bear-assed
[2025-12-07 17:31:21] ScatScalp : https://imgur.com/a/0Six1T8
[2025-12-07 17:31:26] ScatScalp : HU HU HU
[2025-12-07 17:31:28] ScatScalp : GO
[2025-12-07 17:31:36] ScatScalp : BMEX Long liquidated but i am strong in BG
[2025-12-07 17:31:43] Symphoenix : ScatScalp: NIIICEEE SOOUNNDDD
[2025-12-07 17:32:09] ScatScalp : Symphoenix: Yeea mate, write up , ( Zyze , Phaxe , Neelix , Tristan )
[2025-12-07 17:32:20] ScatScalp : that is my holy grail of psy
[2025-12-07 17:32:28] ScatScalp : zyze no ZYCE
[2025-12-07 17:35:03] neki : off all exchanges, bitmex is nicest and scariest to watch when btc makes its moves
[2025-12-07 17:35:11] WinstonChurchill : Too expensive
[2025-12-07 17:35:24] ScatScalp : Holly shit
[2025-12-07 17:35:31] WinstonChurchill : 70k by tommorow
[2025-12-07 17:35:31] ScatScalp : lets gooooooooooooooo
[2025-12-07 17:35:34] WinstonChurchill : Screenshot this!
[2025-12-07 17:35:45] Pr0metheus : wat the helly
[2025-12-07 17:35:52] Symphoenix : Poompzilla is very angry !
[2025-12-07 17:35:52] ScatScalp : hahah bro screenshot this
[2025-12-07 17:35:53] ninnk : how many times is this going to bart
[2025-12-07 17:35:54] ScatScalp : argets and projections, 91225-92350-93450-94765-95800-97899-100k , 1 week
[2025-12-07 17:35:57] ScatScalp : 1 week later let see
[2025-12-07 17:36:04] Dr.van_Doom666 : SCAAAAMMM
[2025-12-07 17:36:13] WinstonChurchill : Dr.van_Doom666: +10000000
[2025-12-07 17:36:50] Symphoenix : now look backward ! 16h34 UTC was my time target announced here !
[2025-12-07 17:37:08] PeacenLuv : https://www.tradingview.com/x/62M4soEI/ where the vuk did it gohh noww btc
[2025-12-07 17:37:43] WinstonChurchill : Bulls are trapped now
[2025-12-07 17:37:50] WinstonChurchill : Flashcrash incoming
[2025-12-07 17:38:25] ScatScalp : 95k till morning
[2025-12-07 17:38:49] ScatScalp : if you are in -3gmt till night +8 gmt 10 morning you, if you in london 19 pm
[2025-12-07 17:39:14] PeacenLuv : https://www.tradingview.com/x/nydGM4nI/ big btc up lil bit of platform lag on filling my buys
[2025-12-07 17:40:47] iFinex_Scam : WinstonChurchill: +1
[2025-12-07 17:41:32] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated long on `XRPUSDT`: Sell 45673 XRP @ 2.0804 ($95,030.44) - Congrats, you just paid for BlackRock’s next ETF commercial
[2025-12-07 17:41:35] iFinex_Scam : saylor will make ppl poor fast
[2025-12-07 17:41:42] PeacenLuv : https://www.tradingview.com/x/VhMHQrai/ pumparonee btc 1hr
[2025-12-07 17:41:51] iFinex_Scam : buy on weekend is soo pro
[2025-12-07 17:44:54] marsin123 : Don't fight the fed guys. Never fight the printers
[2025-12-07 17:46:28] Symphoenix : Back once again for the renegade master D for damager, power to the people
[2025-12-07 17:48:41] Symphoenix : End of the rehearsal, we are switching ON booster mode on 1 to 10 !
[2025-12-07 17:49:44] Symphoenix : Next time target : 18h24 UTC !
[2025-12-07 17:56:09] GoldFish79 : could be the best darth of the year this :kek:
[2025-12-07 17:56:35] GoldFish79 : rugg eeet
[2025-12-07 18:01:19] 45th_blown_account : the bear trap is almost finished :Doge:
[2025-12-07 18:02:17] gemeo2 : :doge: :doge:
[2025-12-07 18:02:30] gemeo2 : 150k
[2025-12-07 18:02:36] ScatScalp : not to early bro
[2025-12-07 18:02:39] ScatScalp : calm
[2025-12-07 18:02:45] ScatScalp : first 95-100
[2025-12-07 18:02:55] RonniePickering : Saylor is buying guys! Not enough orange dots
[2025-12-07 18:03:05] ScatScalp : we like Orange Juice
[2025-12-07 18:03:09] ScatScalp : XD
[2025-12-07 18:03:25] ScatScalp : Bears that is last warning
[2025-12-07 18:03:30] ScatScalp : Fall for it
[2025-12-07 18:03:32] BlissRP : GoldFish79: have fun ser!
[2025-12-07 18:03:32] ScatScalp : buy
[2025-12-07 18:11:21] 45th_blown_account : its xmas pump https://www.youtube.com/shorts/f2iPwwl_z1I :doge:
[2025-12-07 18:17:07] Symphoenix : 7 minutes to go !
[2025-12-07 18:17:50] BlissRP : Symphoenix: wow thanks for the wonderful play by play !
[2025-12-07 18:18:32] Symphoenix : wait for it
[2025-12-07 18:22:01] neki : i need to take a dump now
[2025-12-07 18:23:07] Pr0metheus : neki: once lost 2k taking a dump, carefull bro
[2025-12-07 18:23:08] Symphoenix : 1 minute
[2025-12-07 18:23:54] BlissRP : it appears the weekend trap has been sprung ser
[2025-12-07 18:27:12] WinstonChurchill : Pr0metheus: lol
[2025-12-07 18:27:19] Symphoenix : down
[2025-12-07 18:27:58] BlissRP : Symphoenix: knees and pray ser
[2025-12-07 18:27:59] WinstonChurchill : Most obvious bulltrap
[2025-12-07 18:29:25] Pez : Yet another trustworthy Sunday pump
[2025-12-07 18:29:51] GoldFish79 : /position xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: -500 USD @ 91545.75 ```
[2025-12-07 18:29:53] Pez : Sunday pumps have never retraced
[2025-12-07 18:29:55] GoldFish79 : game over
[2025-12-07 18:30:30] BlissRP : GoldFish79: i expected to see -500 at 87700
[2025-12-07 18:30:42] BlissRP : :pepe:
[2025-12-07 18:30:42] Pez : What's it called when there are 4 Barts
[2025-12-07 18:30:51] BlissRP : Pez: bartus maximus
[2025-12-07 18:31:05] Pez : BlissRP: :kek:
[2025-12-07 18:31:27] neki : Pr0metheus: :D
[2025-12-07 18:32:54] WinstonChurchill : GoldFish79: +1
[2025-12-07 18:37:13] GoldFish79 : BlissRP: you need to have moar faith ser
[2025-12-07 18:39:21] Symphoenix : target 87k
[2025-12-07 18:40:25] Symphoenix : sorry, I don't make the rules, I only follow them blindly
[2025-12-07 18:40:57] GoldFish79 : reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[2025-12-07 18:41:09] Pr0metheus : /position btcusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: 62,300 USD @ 89791.5937 ```
[2025-12-07 18:41:16] Pr0metheus : nice closing
[2025-12-07 18:41:51] neki : incredibull price action
[2025-12-07 18:44:59] GoldFish79 : it will be...
[2025-12-07 18:45:21] GodBleesYou : THIS How we do it
[2025-12-07 18:45:23] GodBleesYou : xD
[2025-12-07 18:45:26] GodBleesYou : poor bears
[2025-12-07 18:45:27] GodBleesYou : xD
[2025-12-07 18:45:34] GoldFish79 : :kek:
[2025-12-07 18:49:27] GoldFish79 : 📞.......................................................................... **DuuumP EeeeeeeeeT**
[2025-12-07 18:49:33] BlissRP : Symphoenix: blindly is an understatement ser
[2025-12-07 18:57:25] Symphoenix : critical supports to break 90830 and 90700
[2025-12-07 18:57:47] GoldFish79 : 10% red dildo printing
[2025-12-07 18:57:50] Symphoenix : BlissRP: Semper fe
[2025-12-07 19:00:03] BlissRP : hope is not a strategy :pepe:
[2025-12-07 19:10:55] gemeo2 : Is gonna dump innit? :pepe:
[2025-12-07 19:11:09] gemeo2 : Next long at 86k?
[2025-12-07 19:14:56] Pez : gemeo2: Bitcoin has never retraced a Sunday pump
[2025-12-07 19:15:16] Pez : See ya at $250k
[2025-12-07 19:15:33] GoldFish79 : cows dancin above cme :kek:
[2025-12-07 19:18:17] BlissRP : Pez: :arthur:
[2025-12-07 19:18:34] Werner : :arthur:
[2025-12-07 19:18:37] GoldFish79 : :kek:
[2025-12-07 19:19:04] GoldFish79 : no wander they sacked you :kek:
[2025-12-07 19:19:24] ScatScalp : HULALA
[2025-12-07 19:24:05] GoldFish79 : beef instead of turkey this year :kek:
[2025-12-07 19:30:49] ScatScalp : KEBBAB FREE
[2025-12-07 19:30:50] ScatScalp : ???
[2025-12-07 19:30:56] ScatScalp : SEND WHOLE BUNCH PLS
[2025-12-07 19:37:06] Symphoenix : warning !
[2025-12-07 19:38:28] GoldFish79 : anyone else wearing thier bitmex hoodie rn ? just me ? :kek:
[2025-12-07 19:39:35] GoldFish79 : *Bitcone-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-c-t*
[2025-12-07 19:41:42] Symphoenix : about to begin : ABYSS is such a great movie !
[2025-12-07 19:47:54] Pez : GoldFish79: sacked?
[2025-12-07 19:48:13] WinstonChurchill : GoldFish79: Did you receive yours?
[2025-12-07 19:48:17] WinstonChurchill : The christmas one?
[2025-12-07 19:48:21] GoldFish79 : thats the ruhmour
[2025-12-07 19:48:21] GoldFish79 : ?
[2025-12-07 19:48:26] Pez : GoldFish79: no no no. I made too much money trading
[2025-12-07 19:48:33] WinstonChurchill : Still waiting for my BMEX Christmas hoodie
[2025-12-07 19:48:56] Pez : WinstonChurchill: you can have mine
[2025-12-07 19:49:03] GoldFish79 : WinstonChurchill: yes and a mug
[2025-12-07 19:49:10] Pez : It's bad op sec to wear it
[2025-12-07 19:49:23] Atlemos : Damp n pump Good one
[2025-12-07 19:50:42] WinstonChurchill : This is just fuel for the apocalyptic dump that will happen tommorow
[2025-12-07 19:50:51] WinstonChurchill : Tommorow when you wake up you will look at 71k
[2025-12-07 19:51:59] WinstonChurchill : Screenshot this!
[2025-12-07 19:52:15] GoldFish79 : https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GHCIVYnXcAAkAS2?format=jpg&name=large
[2025-12-07 19:52:49] GoldFish79 : fits noice https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GHrAg2kXsAEq4HL?format=jpg&name=large :kek:
[2025-12-07 19:54:11] REKTakaMagicTric : what a timing changed today 80% of shorts into long
[2025-12-07 19:54:39] GoldFish79 : purfect trap :kek: easily led arent they :kek:
[2025-12-07 19:55:04] WinstonChurchill : GoldFish79: what the hell
[2025-12-07 19:55:13] WinstonChurchill : That hoodie has nothing to do with christmas lol
[2025-12-07 19:55:15] WinstonChurchill : SCAM!
[2025-12-07 19:55:20] GoldFish79 : 90% liquidated by daylight#
[2025-12-07 19:55:33] GoldFish79 : :kek:
[2025-12-07 19:55:57] REKTakaMagicTric : GoldFish79: didnt get you, u still bearish?
[2025-12-07 19:56:49] GoldFish79 : REKTakaMagicTric: ofc
[2025-12-07 19:57:07] REKTakaMagicTric : ahhh
[2025-12-07 19:57:18] GoldFish79 : nothing but a liquidity grab and the 10 % rouge pemel i prdicked is still printing :kek:
[2025-12-07 19:57:43] GoldFish79 : /position xbtm26 ``` :bitmex: XBTM26: -1,000 USD @ 93946 ```
[2025-12-07 19:57:43] GoldFish79 : /position xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: -500 USD @ 91545.75 ```
[2025-12-07 19:58:14] GoldFish79 : /position shibusdt ``` :bitmex: SHIBUSDT: -8,300,000 SHIB @ 0.0000093517 ```
[2025-12-07 19:58:16] REKTakaMagicTric : well im kinda bearish, i dont mind if this dumps 50% more, still slowly moving into longs
[2025-12-07 19:58:53] GoldFish79 : 50kek xmas morning is my running tgt
[2025-12-07 19:59:18] REKTakaMagicTric : i have been on short for 1 year.. i just cant take it emotionaly anymore :/ for too long
[2025-12-07 19:59:37] GoldFish79 : patience is key ser
[2025-12-07 20:00:41] REKTakaMagicTric : yess but its have limits im reaching them :G
[2025-12-07 20:01:08] GoldFish79 : 🎰🎰🎰 **77777.77** 🎰🎰🎰
[2025-12-07 20:01:45] GoldFish79 : adjust personnal limits , dont be affraid of change
[2025-12-07 20:02:07] GoldFish79 : youll wake upwith bigger ballz factz
[2025-12-07 20:03:48] BlissRP : GoldFish79: ready to clench ser?
[2025-12-07 20:04:55] GoldFish79 : https://www.tradingview.com/x/9ZiuOYHk/ a whole bottle of poppers couldnt relax me anymore
[2025-12-07 20:05:39] GoldFish79 : eet iz written.....
[2025-12-07 20:08:22] neki : GoldFish79: man if this retraces, we see 50keks today I think.. so I gues not :D
[2025-12-07 20:08:55] GoldFish79 : 18 dayz of blood inc
[2025-12-07 20:09:03] GoldFish79 : ho ho fkn ho
[2025-12-07 20:11:10] REKTakaMagicTric : facts about solana? and why i dont care if it dumps 50% i still keep buying it untill blow up this accoun
[2025-12-07 20:11:12] REKTakaMagicTric : Solana Ethereum (L1) Base (L2) Arbitrum (L2) TRON Volyyme ~160M+ ~1.2M ~2-4M ~2-3M ~5-7M
[2025-12-07 20:11:31] REKTakaMagicTric : solana 160m vs other transactions
[2025-12-07 20:11:54] REKTakaMagicTric : + speed
[2025-12-07 20:12:03] REKTakaMagicTric : i may be wrong, correct me pls
[2025-12-07 20:12:52] GoldFish79 : monday 8th https://www.tradingview.com/x/C7La2hyJ/
[2025-12-07 20:13:51] GoldFish79 : ze rest iz noize
[2025-12-07 20:19:44] REKTakaMagicTric : real stocks goes down max around 30-40% before going up 80% .. crypto does about same but it doesnt have brakes so it can go more and faster down and up, thats why i find it hard