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[2025-10-17 20:24:21] PeacenLuv : next on my mind 107666
[2025-10-17 20:24:31] PeacenLuv : hammer it
[2025-10-17 20:25:21] bmagic : LL_from_DEEZNOTES: talking to bmagic
[2025-10-17 20:25:26] PeacenLuv : btc longerz havent lost yet
[2025-10-17 20:25:29] bmagic : About how his balls are heavy
[2025-10-17 20:25:37] bmagic : Its coming
[2025-10-17 20:25:38] NiceGuy : only true G last rally for freedom and democracy 🇺🇸
[2025-10-17 20:25:41] bmagic : These balls dont lie
[2025-10-17 20:25:51] LL_from_DEEZNOTES : He can read English he just pretends like he can
[2025-10-17 20:25:58] LL_from_DEEZNOTES : Which is why I can't ever be fired lmao
[2025-10-17 20:26:01] LL_from_DEEZNOTES : Can't*
[2025-10-17 20:28:43] LL_from_DEEZNOTES : Russia announced proposal for Russia US tunnel
[2025-10-17 20:29:10] leBread : hmm :btc:
[2025-10-17 20:29:34] leBread : let it be weekend, shall we?
[2025-10-17 20:30:11] bmagic : LL_from_DEEZNOTES: lmao the ultimate conman
[2025-10-17 20:30:14] bmagic : Ur boss is a legend
[2025-10-17 20:30:26] gemeo2 : :btc:
[2025-10-17 20:31:21] LL_from_DEEZNOTES : He is but he is annoying
[2025-10-17 20:31:35] PeacenLuv : btc lifting off
[2025-10-17 20:31:46] LL_from_DEEZNOTES : bmagic: always trying to make me work hard so he don't do shit
[2025-10-17 20:34:12] PeacenLuv : longstops up 106913
[2025-10-17 20:40:35] contract details : only up
[2025-10-17 20:45:55] bmagic : Send me higher
[2025-10-17 20:46:00] bmagic : And i will be rewarded
[2025-10-17 20:46:32] bmagic : I will be looking for a short around 107800
[2025-10-17 20:46:38] bmagic : Ideally 108200
[2025-10-17 20:49:28] Pez : That was the bottom gents
[2025-10-17 20:49:41] contract details : why does it bottom every friday now
[2025-10-17 20:49:43] contract details : fuckers
[2025-10-17 20:49:45] Pez : Gold has pulled back. Time for BTC to send
[2025-10-17 20:51:13] PeacenLuv : longstops up 107008 pumpis onn
[2025-10-17 20:51:24] LL_from_DEEZNOTES : He finally tweets his peach tweet
[2025-10-17 20:51:30] LL_from_DEEZNOTES : Peace
[2025-10-17 20:51:42] leBread : Pez: +1
[2025-10-17 20:52:23] PeacenLuv : 😄
[2025-10-17 20:57:23] bmagic : Damn Pez u had your chance
[2025-10-17 20:58:37] boxxx : y 108k prbly safe short targert for weekend
[2025-10-17 20:59:07] bmagic : I dont think anything is a safe short
[2025-10-17 20:59:12] bmagic : Not when it comes to bitcoin
[2025-10-17 21:00:32] boxxx : haha deoends on time line, my short is from late spring or early summer... finilay "potivie roe" i dont mind i was grinding funds
[2025-10-17 21:01:18] boxxx : so ye i shit talk , not realy doing how i see its going
[2025-10-17 21:03:30] boxxx : arent ukr killed 30% of rus gasoll factories? i mean gonna be fun winter if they get more long range stuff from usa now... who knows how that shit escalates ..
[2025-10-17 21:04:24] bmagic : /position xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: -85,000 USD @ 107037.7308 ```
[2025-10-17 21:04:28] bmagic : /position ethusd ``` :bitmex: ETHUSD: -60 Cont @ 3863.24 ```
[2025-10-17 21:04:32] bmagic : /position solusd ``` :bitmex: SOLUSD: -740 Cont @ 184.1 ```
[2025-10-17 21:06:25] boxxx : oo, solusd? have u any plans for target price /take profit?
[2025-10-17 21:06:51] leBread : boxxx: yes
[2025-10-17 21:08:25] boxxx : haha nice answere, no need much for sol dump to 140
[2025-10-17 21:08:50] boxxx : but i was more about is that long or short term position
[2025-10-17 21:08:59] boxxx : okey keep ur secrets
[2025-10-17 21:09:20] ninnk : n-word :pepe:
[2025-10-17 21:09:50] ninnk : ur honour im not racist, im *based*
[2025-10-17 21:10:17] 8-8-8 : bmagic: hi, do you have your trading on copy leader account?
[2025-10-17 21:10:46] bmagic : 8-8-8: no, also people will get REKT trading like me
[2025-10-17 21:10:49] contract details : i closed my short
[2025-10-17 21:10:51] contract details : :pepe:
[2025-10-17 21:10:59] boxxx : hate based on race 1 thing joking about diff race 2 thing.. but we r going where both are evil :/
[2025-10-17 21:11:05] BlissRP : contract details: you waited this long ser?
[2025-10-17 21:11:06] contract details : i dont wanna long on friday night please bog stop it
[2025-10-17 21:11:10] contract details : BlissRP: yes
[2025-10-17 21:11:14] bmagic : I am responsible by not getting people to follow my trades
[2025-10-17 21:11:30] leBread : ninnk is a n-word.
[2025-10-17 21:11:32] BlissRP : contract details: i closed at 176 sol and people asked me why :pepe:
[2025-10-17 21:11:35] 8-8-8 : bmagic: is that a statement of confidence?
[2025-10-17 21:11:41] BlissRP : simple ser, its a scam
[2025-10-17 21:11:57] bmagic : 8-8-8: haha no, its a statement of this account is not my main
[2025-10-17 21:12:20] bmagic : I high frequency trade and swing trade on this account
[2025-10-17 21:12:24] bmagic : Sometimes hedge
[2025-10-17 21:12:34] 8-8-8 : bmagic: even on a small account I much prefer not to loose!
[2025-10-17 21:12:43] contract details : BlissRP: i wanted to long 170
[2025-10-17 21:12:44] contract details : never hit
[2025-10-17 21:12:47] contract details : just like it never hit 120
[2025-10-17 21:12:48] boxxx : ahahah, im not into copy, just was curious other ppl tought of solana price, its still overpriced like btc
[2025-10-17 21:12:48] contract details : :pepe:
[2025-10-17 21:12:55] BlissRP : i had orders at 166 cause it was feeling scammy
[2025-10-17 21:12:59] BlissRP : but no fillz
[2025-10-17 21:13:01] leBread : amazing, how can someone has moar than 1 account. :o
[2025-10-17 21:13:35] BlissRP : leBread: is there another way?
[2025-10-17 21:13:48] BlissRP : tell us how ze wagies do it ser
[2025-10-17 21:13:50] boxxx : hmmm? this is my 2nd account... and on this account alt account also so in teary 3.. but first one prbly deleted
[2025-10-17 21:14:05] boxxx : theory*
[2025-10-17 21:14:07] leBread : BlissRP: i heard that subaccounts is the way to go
[2025-10-17 21:14:26] 8-8-8 : leBread: I use several several subaccounts, plus 3 exchanges too
[2025-10-17 21:14:28] BlissRP : leBread: idk man im trying to farm airdrops on a lot of places
[2025-10-17 21:14:33] contract details : i feel stupid closing though
[2025-10-17 21:14:35] boxxx : ye sub accounts are nice
[2025-10-17 21:14:35] BlissRP : along with not be wrong :doge:
[2025-10-17 21:14:37] contract details : why doesnt it drop at all
[2025-10-17 21:14:38] contract details : :pepe:
[2025-10-17 21:14:49] BlissRP : contract details: im starting a small short pos now just in case
[2025-10-17 21:15:03] BlissRP : hedge to win ser
[2025-10-17 21:15:06] bmagic : 8-8-8: i mean sometimes i intentionally lose on this account to hedge my overall portfolio risk
[2025-10-17 21:15:25] leBread : i has three personal accounts, because OG's have the perk.. but sub accounts is better and less strezz.
[2025-10-17 21:15:26] bmagic : Right now im full time trading on this account which is why it is winning
[2025-10-17 21:15:44] bmagic : I dont want to be held responsible if i change to a hedge strategy
[2025-10-17 21:15:54] bmagic : Everyone deserves to win
[2025-10-17 21:16:05] BlissRP : +1
[2025-10-17 21:16:07] 8-8-8 : bmagic: I try to maintain all my accounts, even hedging i profit, which means I got 10-20 positions per account
[2025-10-17 21:16:26] boxxx : on average when there is no volume, and price just float it slowly goes up.. not allways and while floating movements so small .. u can try scalp prbly
[2025-10-17 21:16:36] bmagic : To be honest until im full time trading its too much effort to manage multiple accounts
[2025-10-17 21:16:46] bmagic : But i use altrady for my spot trades
[2025-10-17 21:16:48] bmagic : Its good
[2025-10-17 21:17:09] 8-8-8 : bmagic: I got a copy leader account if you'd be interested to take a look at it
[2025-10-17 21:17:58] bmagic : 107400 is my top
[2025-10-17 21:18:00] bmagic : Shorting now
[2025-10-17 21:18:22] bmagic : 8-8-8: sure sounds interesting
[2025-10-17 21:18:31] boxxx : hmmm, i used at first subaccounts just to keep different currensy in different accounts .. , just in case.. also ye u can have short and long posiition same time that way... one can be for long sight other for day/week trade
[2025-10-17 21:18:40] 8-8-8 : bmagic: Ideally I would trade using an API to duplicate some trades across exchanges or subaccount
[2025-10-17 21:19:11] 8-8-8 : bmagic: I'm the top account when sorting on 180D
[2025-10-17 21:20:45] boxxx : ufff, dammm sleep pills starting kick in, good nig
[2025-10-17 21:20:47] bmagic : 8-8-8: you use algorithmic trading
[2025-10-17 21:20:48] boxxx : night*
[2025-10-17 21:20:59] 8-8-8 : boxxx: yes, it's a nice way to workaround not being able to hedge positions
[2025-10-17 21:21:30] bmagic : boxxx: good night sir
[2025-10-17 21:22:35] Dario1 : 8-8-8: Excellent +1
[2025-10-17 21:25:08] 8-8-8 : bmagic: I wish I could answer that question. I am quasi always in the market, when not I enter stub (tiny) trades to indicate my bias
[2025-10-17 21:25:47] bmagic : 8-8-8: fair enough. I think about 6 months ago you were discussing development of your algorithm
[2025-10-17 21:25:57] bmagic : Thats why i ask
[2025-10-17 21:26:17] 8-8-8 : Dario1: Thanks!
[2025-10-17 21:26:50] bmagic : You wanted to train your algorithm using some of my trading insights/strategy. Sound familiar?
[2025-10-17 21:27:09] bmagic : Might be someone else. I’m sure it was you.
[2025-10-17 21:27:40] Dario1 : 8-8-8: I remember talking to you 2-3 years ago about C++ trading bots
[2025-10-17 21:28:05] contract details : BlissRP: i feel naked without ze short but wtv i can wait i don't like buying here :pepe:
[2025-10-17 21:28:05] 8-8-8 : bmagic: I have not progressed, on that part, I find after trading I got not much gas left for programming
[2025-10-17 21:28:32] BlissRP : contract details: decision day will be monday anyways
[2025-10-17 21:28:41] BlissRP : better to be free
[2025-10-17 21:28:47] bmagic : 8-8-8: fair enough. Dario1 is probably the most knowledgeable on trollbox when it comes to algorithmic trading.
[2025-10-17 21:29:38] bmagic : I am a finance/economics expert, but working in deals.
[2025-10-17 21:29:46] contract details : BlissRP: I'm quite tired of trading i want oositions like this short i had to enter and forget no stops just to when it's enough
[2025-10-17 21:29:55] bmagic : right now time off and full time trading
[2025-10-17 21:30:05] Pez : Algo traders all got rekt last week
[2025-10-17 21:30:08] BlissRP : contract details: patience is the best way to get such a position ser
[2025-10-17 21:30:13] BlissRP : when its extended af you will know
[2025-10-17 21:30:22] contract details : Exactly
[2025-10-17 21:30:35] bmagic : Pez: same
[2025-10-17 21:30:44] Pez : Arb traders are all gone now.
[2025-10-17 21:30:55] contract details : But to me it's still extended up I don't think it's a good buy so i always miss these longs, same with this leg up gold had
[2025-10-17 21:31:00] Pez : It's just the patient left
[2025-10-17 21:31:03] Pez : And the bears
[2025-10-17 21:31:15] contract details : Everything needs a massive flush this is absurd
[2025-10-17 21:31:24] bmagic : Pez: much degens to think about
[2025-10-17 21:31:28] 8-8-8 : bmagic: it was me indeed. Being a copy leader forces me to focus on other people's position. We were getting before the flash crash (caused by Binance) in a situation where about all the copy leaders were long but me and one other one hedging ETH BTC
[2025-10-17 21:32:05] bmagic : I wouldn’t even call what im doing full time trading
[2025-10-17 21:32:19] bmagic : Im literally just trading btc, eth and solana
[2025-10-17 21:32:24] bmagic : Swing trading it
[2025-10-17 21:32:37] bmagic : I’m not scanning markets, looking for opportunities. No nonsense
[2025-10-17 21:32:42] bmagic : Not even monitoring news
[2025-10-17 21:32:50] 8-8-8 : Pez: Arb traders just did not get the time to rebuild a book, that's my case, my overall leverage is 3x ish when it used to be 6x ish
[2025-10-17 21:32:58] bmagic : I am simply monitoring order books and looking for trade opportunities
[2025-10-17 21:33:40] bmagic : Anyway folks. Shorts are in
[2025-10-17 21:33:46] bmagic : Im seeking 102700
[2025-10-17 21:33:53] bmagic : Will attempt to buy below
[2025-10-17 21:34:08] bmagic : Exit short 104400
[2025-10-17 21:34:09] 8-8-8 : bmagic: there is so much ineficiency in the market because it is undercapitalized as the flash crash demonstrated
[2025-10-17 21:34:41] bmagic : /position xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: -140,000 USD @ 107147.8319 ```
[2025-10-17 21:34:44] bmagic : /position ethusd ``` :bitmex: ETHUSD: -60 Cont @ 3863.24 ```
[2025-10-17 21:34:52] bmagic : /position solusd ``` :bitmex: SOLUSD: -3,400 Cont @ 184.82 ```
[2025-10-17 21:35:05] bmagic : 8-8-8: its also order flow
[2025-10-17 21:35:15] bmagic : Its inconsistent for a 24 hour market
[2025-10-17 21:35:16] LL_from_DEEZNOTES : Are you just swing trading or is this TA based
[2025-10-17 21:35:25] 8-8-8 : bmagic: would be worth to have a copy leader account even if you start small, helps segregate the spec swing part from position
[2025-10-17 21:35:46] bmagic : LL_from_DEEZNOTES: this is my TA to 102700
[2025-10-17 21:36:02] bmagic : Now 106k has been breached
[2025-10-17 21:36:13] bmagic : 102700 is a confident target on secondary failure
[2025-10-17 21:36:33] bmagic : I will swing if 106k range holds
[2025-10-17 21:37:02] 8-8-8 : bmagic: did you realize that Binance was using their own order book price as mark price and that's what create a cascade liquidation that spread to the rest of the market?
[2025-10-17 21:37:07] bmagic : 8-8-8: i will look into it. Last 4 months i have been unavailable to trade due to deals and travel to remote locations
[2025-10-17 21:37:32] bmagic : 8-8-8: lol no but no surprised
[2025-10-17 21:38:07] bmagic : I thought thats how their mark price worked anyway
[2025-10-17 21:39:11] bmagic : They didnt calculate using composite pricing then
[2025-10-17 21:39:20] bmagic : Thats surely illegal
[2025-10-17 21:39:47] leBread : mmm :btc:
[2025-10-17 21:39:48] 8-8-8 : bmagic: I tried to follow a couple of people, but I had to close, one I got short at the top so I had to close following, the other started doing low leverage then all the sudden got 10-15x and lost like 30% in a single day, twice
[2025-10-17 21:40:11] LL_from_DEEZNOTES : bmagic: gotcha ty for explaining
[2025-10-17 21:40:55] bmagic : LL_from_DEEZNOTES: thanks, hopefully dont get liquidated by following my own TA 😂
[2025-10-17 21:41:46] bmagic : 8-8-8: i am not really interested in becoming a copy leader. I have had opportunities to create my own channel and membership group in the past. Its just not worth the hassle
[2025-10-17 21:41:48] LL_from_DEEZNOTES : Yes hopefully not. I have tight stops set if this doesn't pump I'll be out for the weekend
[2025-10-17 21:41:52] bmagic : Doesn’t align with my way of life
[2025-10-17 21:42:17] bmagic : And responsibilities to others I don’t sign up for
[2025-10-17 21:42:34] 8-8-8 : bmagic: I do not think stablecoins are regulated yet in that manner and many exchanges use their own book vs. weighted average like BitMEX
[2025-10-17 21:43:23] bmagic : True as long as they use the composite calculation then its fair value for the exchange you trade on
[2025-10-17 21:45:16] 8-8-8 : Binance called it depegging, just they were the only place where it happened.
[2025-10-17 21:45:36] contract details : not even binance managed to crash btc
[2025-10-17 21:45:46] contract details : is there any hope to buy below 100k or should we just degen alts
[2025-10-17 21:46:02] LL_from_DEEZNOTES : Binance is also by far the largest exchange and thus the most susceptible to depending on an event like that
[2025-10-17 21:46:12] LL_from_DEEZNOTES : Depending*
[2025-10-17 21:46:16] LL_from_DEEZNOTES : Depegging*
[2025-10-17 21:46:28] 8-8-8 : contract details: they managed to crash FTX and the entire market with it, as I recall
[2025-10-17 21:46:48] contract details : cz was better at this game
[2025-10-17 21:46:59] contract details : the new guy just destroyed some alts and got played on btc
[2025-10-17 21:47:06] contract details : they sold and then tried to crash it
[2025-10-17 21:47:34] BlissRP : contract details: im taking the degen alts route pretty soon here
[2025-10-17 21:47:36] BlissRP : nfa
[2025-10-17 21:47:51] BlissRP : dominance is in the final rally imo
[2025-10-17 21:47:52] 8-8-8 : LL_from_DEEZNOTES: Actually Hyperliquid got a big chunk of the liquidations, I got filled on PAXG at 3300 ...
[2025-10-17 21:48:05] bmagic : 8-8-8: i think its possible binance amplified the market but cant be the sole reason for the crash
[2025-10-17 21:48:06] PeacenLuv : 😄😄😄😄ohhh nooooo the emogeeez
[2025-10-17 21:48:14] 8-8-8 : contract details: which new guy?
[2025-10-17 21:48:18] PeacenLuv : pumpittup btc lezgohh
[2025-10-17 21:48:25] BlissRP : bmagic: what about selling out all their hotwallets a week before the crash?
[2025-10-17 21:48:26] PeacenLuv : ☺️☺️☺️☺️☺️☺️☺️
[2025-10-17 21:48:27] BlissRP : seems too easy
[2025-10-17 21:48:31] BlissRP : feels orchestrated
[2025-10-17 21:48:42] BlissRP : call me conspiracy theorist idc but cz has the track record
[2025-10-17 21:49:01] contract details : tang 8-8-8
[2025-10-17 21:49:01] kroleg666 : 1 DOGE = 1 DOGE
[2025-10-17 21:49:19] contract details : BlissRP: i should have closed tomorrow
[2025-10-17 21:49:25] PeacenLuv : 😴chek the run 9n the 5min
[2025-10-17 21:49:27] contract details : run out of patience
[2025-10-17 21:49:31] LL_from_DEEZNOTES : 8-8-8: nice
[2025-10-17 21:49:45] BlissRP : contract details: daily made a wick, you werent necessarily wrong to close
[2025-10-17 21:49:54] BlissRP : why is it harder to press the button in profit? :kek:
[2025-10-17 21:50:02] BlissRP : well, bigger profit
[2025-10-17 21:50:41] bmagic : BlissRP: is there any onchain evidence of the outflow?
[2025-10-17 21:50:41] 8-8-8 : bmagic: the depegging caused all the lending whatever relying on eUSD parity to be liquidated, think of it, the books aren't that deep, and algo cannot react so quick to such systemic architecture flaw (own book price as mark price)
[2025-10-17 21:52:06] 8-8-8 : BlissRP: it has cross my mind that someone realized it was possible to exploit Binance book flaw, either from the inside or from the outside, that's what arbitragers do, shove when the algo realize dumping is profitable
[2025-10-17 21:53:01] 8-8-8 : contract details: haven't read about him, for sure cz must be removed from operations now.
[2025-10-17 21:53:05] Dr.van_Doom666 : WTF?? WHY WE ARE STILL ABOVE 90K???
[2025-10-17 21:53:32] BlissRP : bmagic: yes
[2025-10-17 21:53:48] BlissRP : 8-8-8: exactly my thoughts ser
[2025-10-17 21:53:49] bmagic : 8-8-8: to have such an endogenous crash mechanism activate binance would need to have mark price as their own order book without composite balancing of external market prices
[2025-10-17 21:54:13] bmagic : Similar to the LUNA feedback loop
[2025-10-17 21:54:20] bmagic : Pretty interesting if true
[2025-10-17 21:54:31] 8-8-8 : bmagic: there is forensic evidence the DAO hacker was linked to the ETH foundation, someone will find out if it is possible
[2025-10-17 21:55:54] PeacenLuv : hands up btc berrazz
[2025-10-17 21:56:13] 8-8-8 : bmagic: this is precisely how Binance operated, till they chose to reimburse over 200 millions to their customers. They acknoweldged the flaw
[2025-10-17 21:56:14] PeacenLuv : werry wartz spread
[2025-10-17 21:56:41] PeacenLuv : 5min vol no sales
[2025-10-17 21:56:49] bmagic : 8-8-8: basically sneakier than FTX
[2025-10-17 21:56:54] PeacenLuv : closed bamks
[2025-10-17 21:57:49] contract details : BlissRP: i wanted to long in the morning but i hate opening positions on friday so i waited :pepe:
[2025-10-17 21:58:33] 8-8-8 : bmagic: all this to say that anyone can exploit, intentionaly, or pure automzted algo, thin books, flows in DEX, it's often weakly tested code, untested on scale, etc.
[2025-10-17 21:59:03] contract details : there is a reason cme is the only platform we should trade on
[2025-10-17 21:59:06] contract details : certified verified scam
[2025-10-17 21:59:44] 8-8-8 : bmagic: I am started to have a bit of a doubt about Binance, at least from the viewpoint of who is having their irons in the fire when the big dumps occur
[2025-10-17 22:00:14] PeacenLuv : longstops up 107258 . its a buy all way through 126k
[2025-10-17 22:00:44] PeacenLuv : dumvux
[2025-10-17 22:00:56] bmagic : Sell now in my view
[2025-10-17 22:01:58] 8-8-8 : contract details: or trade at a leverage that immunize your positions from know technological shortcomings, weak funded exchanges and markets...
[2025-10-17 22:02:55] 8-8-8 : contract details: CME charges interest regardless of short or long, also no perp contract, need to deal with expirations
[2025-10-17 22:03:17] contract details : expirations sometimes are the best thing that can happen
[2025-10-17 22:03:36] contract details : i also do not got beyond 2x because i can sniff those scam wicks after so many traumas
[2025-10-17 22:03:55] 8-8-8 : bmagic: you know where to look for my position now ;)
[2025-10-17 22:04:34] contract details : having a position open will always cause a bias
[2025-10-17 22:05:46] 8-8-8 : contract details: 2x makes a lot of sense, there is one interesting copy leader account doing just that, although WIP and 72% DD: DONT_COPY
[2025-10-17 22:06:14] 8-8-8 : contract details: 2x on BTC is not the same as 2x on ETH...
[2025-10-17 22:06:54] bmagic : 8-8-8: copy that sir
[2025-10-17 22:07:35] contract details : only btc never trust alts
[2025-10-17 22:07:51] bmagic : Solana rejected 186
[2025-10-17 22:08:22] bmagic : If it hits 184. Then i would open new short
[2025-10-17 22:09:07] 8-8-8 : bmagic: it's about four times my speculative position, so I am .5x leverage now on main account, not sure if anyone trades that low leverage here
[2025-10-17 22:09:49] bmagic : I trade 100 times that leverage
[2025-10-17 22:10:31] bmagic : /position solusd ``` :bitmex: SOLUSD: -3,400 Cont @ 184.82 ```
[2025-10-17 22:10:34] bmagic : /position btcusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: -150,000 USD @ 107157.0172 ```
[2025-10-17 22:10:42] bmagic : /position ethusd ``` :bitmex: ETHUSD: -70 Cont @ 3865.18 ```
[2025-10-17 22:10:45] 8-8-8 : SOLUSDT negative funding, that's why I stay away other than fully hedge position milking the clock...
[2025-10-17 22:11:28] BlissRP : 8-8-8: the funding is worth the beta ser
[2025-10-17 22:11:39] BlissRP : 3x % moves relative to btc (typically)
[2025-10-17 22:12:34] bmagic : Sol is probably going to 166
[2025-10-17 22:12:47] bmagic : I will buy sub 170
[2025-10-17 22:13:08] BlissRP : bmagic: lol that was my exact buy orders while i slept
[2025-10-17 22:13:09] BlissRP : 166
[2025-10-17 22:13:35] bmagic : I know, i watched you sleep too
[2025-10-17 22:14:04] bmagic : This is why i knew the market was going to receive a double ended dildo
[2025-10-17 22:14:20] bmagic : As soon as @BlissRP wakes up everybody hurt
[2025-10-17 22:14:27] BlissRP : :pepe:
[2025-10-17 22:14:30] bmagic : Liquidation engine purrring
[2025-10-17 22:14:48] 8-8-8 : bmagic:50x that's wild.
[2025-10-17 22:14:50] bmagic : /pnl solusd ``` :bitmex: SOLUSD: 0.0073 XBT RPNL, 0.0011 XBT UPNL ```
[2025-10-17 22:14:54] bluemaster : 8-8-8: I hope my account is not available to be copy traded,I can not even login to copy trade just loop to error page
[2025-10-17 22:15:19] bmagic : bluemaster: i followed you thats why im winning
[2025-10-17 22:15:43] 8-8-8 : bluemaster: you got elect to become a copy leader so no chance of that!
[2025-10-17 22:16:02] bmagic : I elected bluemaster
[2025-10-17 22:16:02] Pez : bluemaster: you wouldn't get any followers. Copiers are impatient
[2025-10-17 22:16:18] Pez : Followers are impatient*
[2025-10-17 22:16:22] bmagic : I unfollowed Pez after the 3rd 112k call
[2025-10-17 22:16:28] 8-8-8 : bluemaster: what's your cpy leader account?
[2025-10-17 22:16:37] Pez : bmagic: $112k is the floor
[2025-10-17 22:16:41] Pez : Ignore this fakeout
[2025-10-17 22:16:45] Pez : Or fake down
[2025-10-17 22:16:49] bmagic : We are underground
[2025-10-17 22:16:55] bmagic : Inside the sewers
[2025-10-17 22:17:04] bmagic : And you say ignore
[2025-10-17 22:17:16] bmagic : Ill be longing 102700
[2025-10-17 22:17:27] bmagic : Almost 112k
[2025-10-17 22:17:28] bluemaster : 8-8-8: I try to login to copy trading to check but just error page pop up
[2025-10-17 22:18:03] bluemaster : I am the worst trader here anyway
[2025-10-17 22:18:15] bluemaster : just good at managing risk
[2025-10-17 22:18:49] 8-8-8 : bluemaster: do you mean you got an entire different account as copy leader, since you are logged in to chat here, right?
[2025-10-17 22:19:26] 8-8-8 : bluemaster: at least you did not get wiped out and still in the game!
[2025-10-17 22:19:39] bmagic : bluemaster: some guy added me on discord thinking i was you
[2025-10-17 22:19:58] bmagic : He was pleasantly disappointed
[2025-10-17 22:21:26] 8-8-8 : Pez: I did uncopy a couple of times to. I love watching other people position though and see how people trade
[2025-10-17 22:22:47] 8-8-8 : I love those Friday night chats here, everyone being so helpful!
[2025-10-17 22:22:47] bmagic : 8-8-8: if i were to describe my trading in one word. Debasing
[2025-10-17 22:23:48] 8-8-8 : bmagic: just curious, besides the high volatility, are your punts profitable or just fun?
[2025-10-17 22:23:48] bmagic : Basically i enter a position, risk manage price movement in the opposite direction of my bias. Improve my entry point then rebase. Ie. derisk once momentum shifts towards me
[2025-10-17 22:24:06] bmagic : Not really punting
[2025-10-17 22:24:14] bmagic : Consider it high volatility risk management
[2025-10-17 22:24:33] bmagic : I exit at near break even on failure
[2025-10-17 22:25:15] bmagic : And my stats on calling are generally correct but even when they aren’t im able to swing into profit once i confirm momentum shift
[2025-10-17 22:25:35] bmagic : Its time consuming but profitable
[2025-10-17 22:25:47] bmagic : Dont recommend it if you try to lead a normal life
[2025-10-17 22:25:49] 8-8-8 : bmagic: did not mean it that, you got a systematic approach. If anything a coy account would allow you to know your ROI because now it's mixed with hedging main so you don't really know?
[2025-10-17 22:26:06] bmagic : Todays ROI
[2025-10-17 22:26:23] bmagic : 708.55%
[2025-10-17 22:26:29] bmagic : last 24 hours
[2025-10-17 22:26:48] leBread : seems more then 620%.
[2025-10-17 22:26:57] leBread : :btc:
[2025-10-17 22:27:18] bmagic : leBread: where is 620%?
[2025-10-17 22:27:39] leBread : bmagic: it is according to math, below 708% sir.
[2025-10-17 22:27:42] 8-8-8 : makes sense with that leverage.
[2025-10-17 22:28:12] bmagic : 8-8-8: i trade isolated ethereum on 25x leverage
[2025-10-17 22:28:21] bmagic : Then i balance solana and bitcoin on cross
[2025-10-17 22:28:40] bmagic : I will be fully isolating bitcoin if we go sub 103k
[2025-10-17 22:28:53] bmagic : going long 102700 at 80x leverage
[2025-10-17 22:28:54] bluemaster : I am just trying to be long forever ,simple strategy
[2025-10-17 22:28:59] 8-8-8 : bmagic: you must be a millionaire by now!
[2025-10-17 22:29:17] bmagic : 8-8-8: im poor
[2025-10-17 22:30:03] bluemaster : 8-8-8: I count in BTC not $ , millionaire means nothing this days
[2025-10-17 22:30:19] bmagic : I might challenge myself to turn 500k profit in the next 4 to 6 months
[2025-10-17 22:30:33] bmagic : But im returning to work soon
[2025-10-17 22:31:10] bmagic : Dont have the foundations to be trading like this
[2025-10-17 22:31:23] 8-8-8 : bmagic: makes no sense to get copied capital pledged is low for now
[2025-10-17 22:32:02] bluemaster : bmagic: I am trying to not return to work :pepe:
[2025-10-17 22:32:05] bluemaster : https://ac.com.au/upload/sp/tomorow.jpg
[2025-10-17 22:32:29] leBread : the idea is to profit from others losses
[2025-10-17 22:32:29] 8-8-8 : bmagic: managing even 50/50 win rate should be profitable with your strategy
[2025-10-17 22:32:48] bmagic : 8-8-8: if i started my own trade group id be earning 1 mill a year in fees
[2025-10-17 22:32:59] bmagic : Its not worth it
[2025-10-17 22:33:30] bmagic : Going through the legal rigmarole
[2025-10-17 22:33:39] bmagic : Setting up client meetings
[2025-10-17 22:33:49] leBread : just say no finansial advice as long as you do this for profits.
[2025-10-17 22:33:51] leBread : ez.
[2025-10-17 22:33:59] BlissRP : leBread: +1
[2025-10-17 22:34:00] bmagic : Id find a way to end up in jail
[2025-10-17 22:34:23] leBread : no, the idea is to stay away from jail, you got it all wrong.
[2025-10-17 22:34:24] 8-8-8 : bmagic: with a good track record, I believe there are people willing to do that legwork for you
[2025-10-17 22:34:28] bmagic : Disclaimers dont excuse you from financial regulatory board
[2025-10-17 22:34:54] leBread : I am forever excused from the financial regulatory board. :kek:
[2025-10-17 22:34:55] bmagic : nah the law will catch up on people doing it
[2025-10-17 22:35:18] BlissRP : the law is a myth
[2025-10-17 22:35:21] bmagic : All it takes is one person killing themselves over 1k loss
[2025-10-17 22:35:28] bmagic : Society will punish you
[2025-10-17 22:35:29] leBread : the law is no more than recommendations sir.
[2025-10-17 22:35:39] leBread : its not like it is enforced or anything
[2025-10-17 22:36:02] 8-8-8 : bmagic: I haven't fully looked into it, but there ought to be ways to just sell the signal without the liability
[2025-10-17 22:36:06] bmagic : bluemaster: when super moon?
[2025-10-17 22:36:07] leBread : As an european citizen, i have not seen the law been enforced for years.
[2025-10-17 22:36:10] bluemaster : leBread: to ease we dumped without any reaction
[2025-10-17 22:36:24] leBread : bluemaster: mm no erection in this dump sir.
[2025-10-17 22:36:41] bmagic : 8-8-8: i am a certified financial professional. Running these crypto groups is unregulated but illegal
[2025-10-17 22:36:46] LL_from_DEEZNOTES : Muh stahps
[2025-10-17 22:36:50] LL_from_DEEZNOTES : Got hit
[2025-10-17 22:36:55] LL_from_DEEZNOTES : I'm out guys good luck!
[2025-10-17 22:36:57] leBread : have a lovely weekend, i'm signing off.
[2025-10-17 22:37:16] bmagic : LL_from_DEEZNOTES: i thought u were short with me sir
[2025-10-17 22:37:23] 8-8-8 : bmagic: not if investors are accreditated
[2025-10-17 22:37:29] LL_from_DEEZNOTES : bmagic: I misspoke
[2025-10-17 22:37:33] LL_from_DEEZNOTES : Meant long
[2025-10-17 22:37:39] bluemaster : bmagic: I am officially bearish now, it is just not worth going long this shit anymore ... First chance to jump out of my longs I am out !
[2025-10-17 22:37:39] LL_from_DEEZNOTES : bmagic: mis typed
[2025-10-17 22:37:45] bluemaster : /pnl xbtusdt ``` :bitmex: XBTUSDT: 3,423.26 USDT RPNL, 21,391.26 USDT UPNL ```
[2025-10-17 22:37:47] bmagic : 8-8-8: ah true. Who will follow me lol. Just go blackrock then
[2025-10-17 22:37:53] bluemaster : /pnl xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: 0.1718 XBT RPNL, -0.1321 XBT UPNL ```
[2025-10-17 22:38:02] LL_from_DEEZNOTES : I will relong 168 if it comes
[2025-10-17 22:38:14] LL_from_DEEZNOTES : But I made good money last two days gonna wait
[2025-10-17 22:38:32] bluemaster : ETF's and all paper wanking can go to hell
[2025-10-17 22:38:44] bluemaster : and I hope 16 k hold
[2025-10-17 22:38:57] bmagic : 8-8-8: i might consider it if i make 1 mill trading this year from my current position
[2025-10-17 22:39:27] bmagic : I really can’t be bothered with other peoples finances
[2025-10-17 22:39:40] bmagic : I deal with company level finances and deals
[2025-10-17 22:39:57] 8-8-8 : bmagic: crypto hedge fund I was able to find out, offer 250% ish ROI and ... 50% DD
[2025-10-17 22:41:10] bluemaster : /position xbtm26 ``` :bitmex: XBTM26: 136,800 USD @ 121222.4067 ```
[2025-10-17 22:41:14] bluemaster : /position xbth26 ``` :bitmex: XBTH26: 143,000 USD @ 116521.5973 ```
[2025-10-17 22:41:16] 8-8-8 : bmagic: anything that can I happen relies on establishing a track record...
[2025-10-17 22:41:18] bluemaster : /position xbtz25 ``` :bitmex: XBTZ25: 126,900 USD @ 117746.7973 ```
[2025-10-17 22:41:21] bluemaster : /position xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: 170,100 USD @ 116650.7244 ```
[2025-10-17 22:41:45] bmagic : 8-8-8: i have the track record.
[2025-10-17 22:41:54] bluemaster : maybe one day they will be come back in a money 😁
[2025-10-17 22:41:56] bmagic : Like i said i passed on the opportunity
[2025-10-17 22:42:02] bmagic : Had 1300 followers
[2025-10-17 22:42:20] 8-8-8 : bmagic: I remember now you mentioned, right
[2025-10-17 22:42:22] bmagic : Offering 5k/year thats enough
[2025-10-17 22:42:40] bmagic : Its not worth the hassle
[2025-10-17 22:43:38] 8-8-8 : bmagic: 1300 followers for 5k/year, seems odd though
[2025-10-17 22:45:17] Benobi : are you seriously bearish, Bluemaster, though X) ?
[2025-10-17 22:45:57] bmagic : 8-8-8: 6.5mill in fees/year
[2025-10-17 22:46:17] bmagic : People do it, but its crazy business
[2025-10-17 22:46:42] bmagic : People would rather send you their money to trade
[2025-10-17 22:47:17] bmagic : Many people would gladly send you 10k. 5k collateral plus 5k annual fee
[2025-10-17 22:47:43] bmagic : If u can turn 10k into 25k in a year thats enough
[2025-10-17 22:47:46] 8-8-8 : bmagic: typical hedge fund is 15%, copy trading here up 50% profit share
[2025-10-17 22:47:58] Dario1 : bluemaster: rename to bearmaster 😜
[2025-10-17 22:48:28] bmagic : 8-8-8: yeah, im not personally interested. Just think its easy maths
[2025-10-17 22:49:03] XRP GOD : Gm 🐺🐺💅🏾💅🏾
[2025-10-17 22:49:16] 8-8-8 : bmagic: following up on the 5k a year, hypothetical :)
[2025-10-17 22:49:18] bmagic : /position xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: -40,000 USD @ 107157.0172 ```
[2025-10-17 22:49:26] bmagic : /position ethusd ``` :bitmex: ETHUSD: -20 Cont @ 3865.18 ```
[2025-10-17 22:49:31] bmagic : /position solusd ``` :bitmex: SOLUSD: -400 Cont @ 184.82 ```
[2025-10-17 22:49:35] bmagic : Derisked
[2025-10-17 22:49:38] XRP GOD : bmagic: yo
[2025-10-17 22:49:52] bmagic : XRP GOD: hello friend
[2025-10-17 22:50:00] 8-8-8 : XRP GOD: hi
[2025-10-17 22:50:02] bmagic : Potential bounce area here
[2025-10-17 22:50:14] bmagic : 108k possible
[2025-10-17 22:50:17] XRP GOD : bmagic: @8-8-8 :catjam:
[2025-10-17 22:50:39] XRP GOD : bmagic: u long or short I’m confused
[2025-10-17 22:50:50] 8-8-8 : lol
[2025-10-17 22:51:26] thankyousomuch : bulldown i mean bullrun is going
[2025-10-17 22:51:27] XRP GOD : 🤣🤭💅🏾
[2025-10-17 22:52:35] bmagic : XRP GOD: both
[2025-10-17 22:52:38] thankyousomuch : bulls long
[2025-10-17 22:52:41] 8-8-8 : bluemaster: Z25 gota be next Dec, way to go...
[2025-10-17 22:52:43] bmagic : Short bias
[2025-10-17 22:53:27] bmagic : /position xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: 60,000 USD @ 106979.3 ```
[2025-10-17 22:53:32] bmagic : /position ethusd ``` :bitmex: ETHUSD: 50 Cont @ 3855 ```
[2025-10-17 22:53:33] iFinex_Scam : he sold, pump it
[2025-10-17 22:53:36] bmagic : /position solusd ``` :bitmex: SOLUSD: 2,000 Cont @ 184.15 ```
[2025-10-17 22:53:42] thankyousomuch : longers long till 80k
[2025-10-17 22:53:52] XRP GOD : iFinex_Scam: who sold lol
[2025-10-17 22:53:55] NiceGuy : puamp it
[2025-10-17 22:54:01] NiceGuy : :me:
[2025-10-17 22:54:05] thankyousomuch : XRP GOD: Soros, Mc Donalds
[2025-10-17 22:54:21] thankyousomuch : Trump
[2025-10-17 22:54:23] iFinex_Scam : pummmp it
[2025-10-17 22:54:25] XRP GOD : thankyousomuch: Relly 🤣🤭
[2025-10-17 22:54:56] 8-8-8 : Take care everyone!
[2025-10-17 22:55:05] bmagic : /position btcusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: 150,000 USD @ 106988.488 ```
[2025-10-17 22:55:05] XRP GOD : well we have a h&s on the weekly so anything can happen
[2025-10-17 22:55:18] bmagic : 8-8-8: enjoy. Nice chat sir
[2025-10-17 22:55:32] 8-8-8 : bmagic: same!
[2025-10-17 22:55:56] thankyousomuch : tak care of bullrun
[2025-10-17 22:56:22] bmagic : 108700 long target
[2025-10-17 22:56:32] bmagic : Shorting 109200 if available
[2025-10-17 22:56:37] thankyousomuch : 80k
[2025-10-17 22:56:47] thankyousomuch : then bear market
[2025-10-17 22:58:47] thankyousomuch : 🚣:Arthur:
[2025-10-17 23:00:57] bluemaster : up or down I don;t care,monthly looks like shit
[2025-10-17 23:08:53] thankyousomuch : monthly heads to 32k
[2025-10-17 23:10:39] thankyousomuch : Arrr Arrr arr arryuuu staying alife arr arr arr staying aliiiife :arthur:
[2025-10-17 23:11:07] thankyousomuch : 🎹
[2025-10-17 23:15:00] bmagic : Guys
[2025-10-17 23:15:03] bmagic : Send it high
[2025-10-17 23:15:41] bluemaster : /orders xbtusdt 😜 ``` :bitmex: XBTUSDT: Buy 5 XBT @ 75120.2 XBTUSDT: Sell 0.05 XBT @ 108356.7 ```
[2025-10-17 23:16:24] bluemaster : gone fishing
[2025-10-17 23:16:33] bluemaster : see y ou next week
[2025-10-17 23:17:16] bluemaster : /pnl xbtusdt ``` :bitmex: XBTUSDT: 3,423.26 USDT RPNL, 21,495.26 USDT UPNL ```
[2025-10-17 23:17:57] bmagic : See you @bluemaster all aussie adventures
[2025-10-17 23:20:11] thankyousomuch : bluemaster: good short position
[2025-10-17 23:25:23] bmagic : Long now if u want to try
[2025-10-17 23:25:47] bmagic : Sol 182.8
[2025-10-17 23:26:15] bmagic : Btc 106770
[2025-10-17 23:26:46] bmagic : ETH 3845
[2025-10-17 23:28:32] LL_from_DEEZNOTES : I'm in
[2025-10-17 23:28:38] LL_from_DEEZNOTES : But I will be busy in an hour
[2025-10-17 23:30:48] bmagic : Targets SOL 189 exit swing short 191 BTC 108200 exit swing short 109200
[2025-10-17 23:30:58] LL_from_DEEZNOTES : Ok
[2025-10-17 23:31:08] thankyousomuch : 80k next
[2025-10-17 23:31:22] thankyousomuch : 124k bear market top
[2025-10-17 23:31:38] bmagic : ETH 3945 exit swing short 3490
[2025-10-17 23:32:50] bmagic : Lets see how it plays out
[2025-10-17 23:35:47] LL_from_DEEZNOTES : I had to exit bc I am driving damn
[2025-10-17 23:36:38] bmagic : low leverage?
[2025-10-17 23:37:26] bmagic : 3% move so 10x leverage would be nice if it plays
[2025-10-17 23:38:03] contract details : I am sorry for your longs i closed my short so we will see a mega red dildo
[2025-10-17 23:38:30] thankyousomuch : 😳but bullrun
[2025-10-17 23:38:53] contract details : Burgerrun
[2025-10-17 23:41:01] iFinex_Scam : trollbox sold, pump it
[2025-10-17 23:41:03] contract details : Indices rejected on my magic like from last year. Too many flgreen candles. Maybe i should have kept my short open for another two months. It's going to be a rough last quarter i guess
[2025-10-17 23:41:05] thankyousomuch : ⣀⣴⡆⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢀⣿⣿⣿⣶⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢸⣿⣿⣿⣿⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ ⠀⣶⡄⢀⣀⣤⣴⡶⠿⠿⠿⠿BULLTAN⠿⠿⢿⣷⣶⣤⣀⠀ ⣠⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣶⣶⣶:arthur::btc::pepeb:🍌 ⠘⣿⡿⢿🍔🍔🍔🍟🍟🐮🐮🐮🍔🍔🍔🍔⣿⡿⠃ ⠀⠛⠁⠀⠀⠉⠙⠛⠿⠿⠿⠿⠿⠿⠿⠿⠿⠿⠿⠿⠿⠿⠟⠛⠋
[2025-10-17 23:41:30] contract details : thankyousomuch: do you know anything about bot42?
[2025-10-17 23:41:45] iFinex_Scam : he jump
[2025-10-17 23:42:17] thankyousomuch : deep sea
[2025-10-17 23:42:45] thankyousomuch : contract details: no
[2025-10-17 23:43:07] thankyousomuch : sounds like a bot
[2025-10-17 23:49:09] bmagic : contract details: ah so it was you that ruined my entry
[2025-10-17 23:49:12] bmagic : fair enough
[2025-10-17 23:52:00] thankyousomuch : 100x short
[2025-10-17 23:52:05] thankyousomuch : night guys
[2025-10-17 23:52:41] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 100 USD @ 106495.6 - Game over
[2025-10-17 23:55:02] aldirenio : ola
[2025-10-17 23:55:07] aldirenio : hi
[2025-10-17 23:55:26] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 100 USD @ 106437.4 - enjoy the poor house, genius
[2025-10-17 23:55:40] thankyousomuch : contract details: your account?
[2025-10-17 23:55:58] aldirenio : tem
[2025-10-17 23:56:05] aldirenio : alguem aqui ?
[2025-10-17 23:57:36] aldirenio : thankyousomuch:
[2025-10-17 23:58:10] aldirenio : XRP GOD:
[2025-10-18 00:04:56] PeacenLuv : jump off btc its a sell
[2025-10-18 00:05:29] thankyousomuch : PeacenLuv: 9k years downtrend
[2025-10-18 00:08:22] contract details : thankyousomuch: my account? im not bot42
[2025-10-18 00:08:25] contract details : he disdappeared
[2025-10-18 00:08:34] contract details : :pepe:
[2025-10-18 00:08:38] contract details : only his subpeperine is left
[2025-10-18 00:10:44] thankyousomuch : alt season delayed two more years again :pepeb::pepeb:
[2025-10-18 00:11:04] contract details : maybe alt season was the burgers we ate along the way
[2025-10-18 00:11:12] SerMoon : hamaricans are so good at pumping it with a single tweet from their president
[2025-10-18 00:11:24] SerMoon : I underestimated it again
[2025-10-18 00:11:32] thankyousomuch : hahahahahahahahaha :arthur: hirre