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[2025-09-20 22:19:17] Dario1 : years*
[2025-09-20 22:19:24] speedwell : Arthur is heavily invested in Hype so he would say that, no?
[2025-09-20 22:19:57] speedwell : Do you trust him?
[2025-09-20 22:20:17] Dario1 : he probably has invested but other than that there are good reasons for it anyway
[2025-09-20 22:20:51] BlissRP : speedwell: ser, those arent tea leaves you are reading
[2025-09-20 22:20:58] BlissRP : :kek:
[2025-09-20 22:21:03] Dario1 : speedwell: Arthur Hayes argues that fiat decline drives stablecoin saving, funneling into crypto speculation—and Hyperliquid is the exchange built for that wave.
[2025-09-20 22:21:15] Dario1 : https://www.coindesk.com/markets/2025/08/30/hyperliquid-s-hype-token-why-arthur-hayes-thinks-it-has-126x-upside-potential
[2025-09-20 22:22:14] speedwell : yeah I watched his interview
[2025-09-20 22:22:30] Dario1 : speedwell: Regarding trusting Arthur, I only followed his btc, eth and sol calls on x so far
[2025-09-20 22:22:35] Dario1 : and he was spot on
[2025-09-20 22:22:41] speedwell : I get this slimy end of cycle feel to it all
[2025-09-20 22:22:52] Dario1 : besides he knows this market more than any of us on tb
[2025-09-20 22:23:03] Dario1 : there is a reason he is a billionaire and we are not
[2025-09-20 22:23:13] Dario1 : not yet at least 😛
[2025-09-20 22:23:14] speedwell : all aboard the train to goblin town!
[2025-09-20 22:27:32] speedwell : BlissRP: cat
[2025-09-20 22:27:39] speedwell : ex wifes
[2025-09-20 22:31:03] Dario1 : BlissRP: You were constantly making fun of kroleg’s QRL long call since last year
[2025-09-20 22:31:08] Dario1 : meanwhile it pumped 300-400%
[2025-09-20 22:31:23] Dario1 : so you were wrong ser :kek:
[2025-09-20 22:32:59] speedwell : I would sell here QRL
[2025-09-20 22:33:33] Dario1 : I wouldn’t even consider buying it yet. market cap is too low for my liking
[2025-09-20 22:34:03] speedwell : I tried to but it all got too hard
[2025-09-20 22:34:05] Dario1 : it has potential but it’s too early
[2025-09-20 22:34:12] speedwell : best time
[2025-09-20 22:34:21] speedwell : chuck in a grand
[2025-09-20 22:34:39] Dario1 : that sounds good
[2025-09-20 22:34:57] Dario1 : buy and forget
[2025-09-20 22:35:01] speedwell : has a good story, groleg good story teller
[2025-09-20 22:35:06] Dario1 : look at it in a few years
[2025-09-20 22:35:15] speedwell : +1
[2025-09-20 22:35:23] speedwell : buy a house
[2025-09-20 22:35:48] Dario1 : I compared investing in btc vs real estate
[2025-09-20 22:35:55] speedwell : and
[2025-09-20 22:38:01] Dario1 : hodling btc for the last 3 years was 10x more profitable than buying real estate and renting it
[2025-09-20 22:38:12] Dario1 : I posted the calculations on tb
[2025-09-20 22:38:19] Dario1 : maybe I can find it
[2025-09-20 22:40:08] speedwell : the other thing is if you don't have loads of money you can't even get into real estate
[2025-09-20 22:40:32] Dario1 : [2025-07-10 22:43:02] Dario1 : Hodling BTC from 20K to 120K means 500% ROI in less than 3 years
[2025-09-20 22:40:48] Dario1 : [2025-07-10 22:43:16] Dario1 : This while rental property ROI would have been only 25% in 3 years [2025-07-10 22:43:25] Dario1 : plus 25% value increase [2025-07-10 22:43:28] Dario1 : so in total 50% [2025-07-10 22:43:50] Dario1 : btc hodling was 10 times more profitable 😁
[2025-09-20 22:40:50] speedwell : i was down and out in 2017. put 2k into btc and am now retired
[2025-09-20 22:41:02] Dario1 : speedwell: true that
[2025-09-20 22:41:17] Dario1 : nice congratz on that
[2025-09-20 22:42:02] speedwell : I got my mother to buy some for fun, she recently gave all the grand kids 15k
[2025-09-20 22:42:10] speedwell : bloody 6 of them
[2025-09-20 22:42:41] Dario1 : very generous of her
[2025-09-20 22:43:40] GoldFish79 : https://www.tradingview.com/x/XS3eRFSk/
[2025-09-20 22:45:54] Dario1 : GoldFish79: blueprint for profits +1
[2025-09-20 22:46:51] GoldFish79 : /orders xrpusd ``` :bitmex: XRPUSD: Buy 1 Cont @ 2.65 ```
[2025-09-20 22:47:00] GoldFish79 : :kek:
[2025-09-20 22:47:36] speedwell : why not 2?
[2025-09-20 22:48:12] GoldFish79 : could sring deeper
[2025-09-20 22:48:24] speedwell : ah
[2025-09-20 22:48:24] GoldFish79 : just a starting point for now
[2025-09-20 22:48:40] Dario1 : compounding is the key
[2025-09-20 22:48:46] weiron12 : 56btc qt 115860
[2025-09-20 22:48:46] GoldFish79 : scam dump from the garlic family will be catalyst
[2025-09-20 22:49:02] weiron12 : big wall
[2025-09-20 22:49:24] GoldFish79 : hack or some other fud for a fast wick:kek:
[2025-09-20 22:49:34] speedwell : SCAM!
[2025-09-20 22:49:40] GoldFish79 : plz
[2025-09-20 22:49:53] Dario1 : Be aware of orderbook spoofing :arthur:
[2025-09-20 22:49:59] speedwell : gassy knoll
[2025-09-20 22:50:07] Dario1 : 117500 or so should be possible
[2025-09-20 22:50:21] speedwell : on a Sunday?
[2025-09-20 22:50:28] weiron12 : monday is dump day
[2025-09-20 22:50:33] Dario1 : no, might take a while
[2025-09-20 22:53:17] GoldFish79 : 3 weekly soldiers could be in play on the weekly chart , i predicted daily marabuzos over the weekend with a cme gap up on open because santa rally already started , hows that for a meme **117973.7**
[2025-09-20 22:53:42] GoldFish79 : then 120894.7-124615.4
[2025-09-20 22:54:06] Dario1 : marabuzo sounds sexy
[2025-09-20 22:54:37] contract details : :pepe:
[2025-09-20 22:54:38] contract details : :pepe:
[2025-09-20 22:54:48] Dario1 : :me:
[2025-09-20 22:55:14] contract details : a wagie only lives on shabbat
[2025-09-20 22:55:15] contract details : shalom
[2025-09-20 22:56:01] Dario1 : looking at charts on shabbat is like watching paint dry :arthur:
[2025-09-20 22:56:40] contract details : at least paint changes
[2025-09-20 22:57:00] Dario1 : hehe
[2025-09-20 22:59:46] GoldFish79 : if my plan prints it will be fun day sunday :kek:
[2025-09-20 23:01:37] Dario1 : :kek:
[2025-09-20 23:01:45] Dario1 : reminded me of Comae
[2025-09-20 23:01:50] Dario1 : hey hey hey
[2025-09-20 23:01:59] Dario1 : well well well
[2025-09-20 23:02:32] Dario1 : that’s how he started his tb convos
[2025-09-20 23:03:49] contract details : wasa wasa wasaaa
[2025-09-20 23:03:52] Dario1 : and he came up with that famous funday sunday
[2025-09-20 23:04:12] contract details : i remember when btc would move
[2025-09-20 23:04:18] contract details : remember when 3x could get you liquidated_
[2025-09-20 23:05:15] Dario1 : It all changed after ETF’s approval
[2025-09-20 23:05:25] Dario1 : and as predicted
[2025-09-20 23:05:49] Dario1 : thanks to institutional bots
[2025-09-20 23:06:08] contract details : :pepe:
[2025-09-20 23:06:16] contract details : it's ok all we have to do is 30x long sol or bnb right
[2025-09-20 23:06:28] contract details : no insticun tions to stop it during the weekend right :pepe:
[2025-09-20 23:06:32] Dario1 : :pepe:
[2025-09-20 23:08:08] BlissRP : Dario1: :kek:
[2025-09-20 23:08:17] BlissRP : contract details: LONGEET
[2025-09-20 23:08:23] BlissRP : dont ask questions just longeet
[2025-09-20 23:08:55] thankyousomuch : 80k
[2025-09-20 23:09:28] thankyousomuch : minimum wage
[2025-09-20 23:10:47] contract details : Dario1: rip
[2025-09-20 23:11:36] contract details : BlissRP: nah i pressed the button at 156 or something and then 200 if i make it i wont have any reason to stay chronically online
[2025-09-20 23:12:57] PeacenLuv : 😄😄😄
[2025-09-20 23:28:45] beetle7 : is it ever gonna pump ffs
[2025-09-20 23:28:51] beetle7 : fuck this
[2025-09-20 23:29:19] beetle7 : fuck btc
[2025-09-20 23:29:22] beetle7 : fuck doge
[2025-09-20 23:29:27] beetle7 : fuck eth
[2025-09-20 23:29:57] PeacenLuv : buyin dips btc
[2025-09-20 23:31:19] PeacenLuv : 😄
[2025-09-20 23:34:42] PeacenLuv : 😄
[2025-09-20 23:35:10] PeacenLuv : 😄
[2025-09-20 23:35:21] PeacenLuv : 😄
[2025-09-20 23:35:39] PeacenLuv : 😄
[2025-09-20 23:35:59] PeacenLuv : 😄
[2025-09-20 23:36:33] GoldFish79 : earz
[2025-09-20 23:39:21] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated long on `XRPUSDT`: Sell 17 XRP @ 2.9705 ($50.53)
[2025-09-20 23:40:38] PeacenLuv : 😄
[2025-09-20 23:41:17] PeacenLuv : lezgohh pump btc sorry emojeez
[2025-09-20 23:41:53] PeacenLuv : long entry 115670
[2025-09-20 23:42:36] PeacenLuv : off a 5min
[2025-09-20 23:43:21] Dario1 : Pepe: Thank you sexy frog 🐸
[2025-09-20 23:43:39] Dario1 : had to take care of something anyway
[2025-09-20 23:45:24] PeacenLuv : 😄😄
[2025-09-20 23:52:45] PeacenLuv : 😄
[2025-09-20 23:52:57] thankyousomuch : :pepeb: @PeacenLuv
[2025-09-20 23:53:12] thankyousomuch : long and didnt sleep since 4 years
[2025-09-20 23:53:14] PeacenLuv : 😄
[2025-09-20 23:53:48] PeacenLuv : 😄
[2025-09-20 23:54:07] PeacenLuv : 😄
[2025-09-20 23:54:50] PeacenLuv : 😙😄
[2025-09-20 23:55:23] PeacenLuv : 😄
[2025-09-20 23:56:15] Dr.van_Doom666 : DOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!
[2025-09-20 23:56:30] PeacenLuv : 😄
[2025-09-20 23:57:10] PeacenLuv : bringon more funding btc longs
[2025-09-21 00:02:05] Dario1 : guys if you spend more than an hour per day on tb
[2025-09-21 00:02:18] Dario1 : then there is something wrong in your life
[2025-09-21 00:02:30] Dario1 : looking at today’s archive
[2025-09-21 00:03:16] Dario1 : there were two people spamming the for 20 hours or so :kek:
[2025-09-21 00:03:29] contract details : :pepe:
[2025-09-21 00:03:42] contract details : life itself is wrong
[2025-09-21 00:03:53] contract details : life only never starts to end
[2025-09-21 00:03:58] Dario1 : depends on the interpretation
[2025-09-21 00:10:36] Dario1 : contract details: https://youtube.com/shorts/ViIU0U4SgmI
[2025-09-21 00:10:47] Dario1 : just for the laugh
[2025-09-21 00:11:18] Dr.van_Doom666 : We only live twice!
[2025-09-21 00:11:31] Dario1 : he was a philosophy professor at univ before
[2025-09-21 00:11:47] Dario1 : I remember you posted a video of him before
[2025-09-21 00:11:59] Dario1 : so you know him already :arthur:
[2025-09-21 00:12:24] Mr. JB : I have a consideration. We've just missed the top trend of this channel hence I think we will hit it @ around 117800. In the other hand I believe we'll go 110k on Monday. Just closed short and opened small long.
[2025-09-21 00:12:25] Mr. JB : https://www.tradingview.com/x/ayk0GR6l/
[2025-09-21 00:12:29] Mr. JB : /position xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: 200 USD @ 115699.2 ```
[2025-09-21 00:19:14] Dario1 : Mr. JB: +1
[2025-09-21 00:23:52] thankyousomuch : :pepe:🍟
[2025-09-21 00:24:58] contract details : Dario1: We are like a single neuron activated once in a trillion epochs during the training of the universe's neural net with random starting values :pepe: 🍟
[2025-09-21 00:25:00] contract details : :pepeb:
[2025-09-21 00:25:17] GoldFish79 : /position xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: 5,000 USD @ 115661.8 ```
[2025-09-21 00:27:10] Dario1 : contract details: That reminded me of a philosophical concept called eternal recurrence
[2025-09-21 00:27:50] Dario1 : Nietzsche discussed it in one of his books, don’t remember which
[2025-09-21 00:28:30] Dario1 : Nietzsche, Eternal Recurrence, and the Horror of Existence
[2025-09-21 00:28:41] Dario1 : https://scholarcommons.scu.edu/phi/55/#:~:text=Abstract,will%20be%20exactly%20the%20same.
[2025-09-21 00:31:06] Dario1 : So the Eternal Recurrence says universe is destroyed and recreated over and over again
[2025-09-21 00:34:19] Dario1 : enough about that
[2025-09-21 00:34:22] contract details : The only horror in existence is knowing 1 life is not enough to do anything. I need a cyborg body whnat is elon waiting for
[2025-09-21 00:34:42] GoldFish79 : the squeeze will be brutal
[2025-09-21 00:34:47] Dario1 : contract details: couldn’t agree more on that
[2025-09-21 00:34:47] contract details : do you think AI will figure out how the universe works I think AI will be useless compare to the power of biology
[2025-09-21 00:34:59] contract details : the ai squeeze?
[2025-09-21 00:35:18] GoldFish79 : the everting squeeze
[2025-09-21 00:35:23] Dario1 : I have talked about living in infinite number of parallel worlds simultaneously before
[2025-09-21 00:36:00] Dario1 : that’s if the many-worlds interpretation of quantum mechanics is correct
[2025-09-21 00:36:22] contract details : does it really matter if all the possible paths have been traced and walked if you are constrained to this one
[2025-09-21 00:36:49] contract details : this is what happens when btc doesnt move for weeks
[2025-09-21 00:37:02] contract details : people quote nietzsche on tb
[2025-09-21 00:39:24] Dario1 : contract details: [2024-04-20 23:57:37] Dario2 : ninnk: So if mwl is indeed correct as results of recent quantum experiments suggest, then there is a parallel universe simulation for all the possible choices you have every time you make a decision. This way, after you exit all the universes, you can look back and compare how each different choice could have changed your life/destiny. But if there are no parallel simulations, then you will never know how your life would have looked like if you had made the other decision. So you will learn nothing from it. So one could say the purpose of it all is to learn… by the way, one of the reasons quantum computers are so fast in certain algorithms, is because they go through all possibilities simultaneously in parallel using the same mwl
[2025-09-21 00:41:30] thankyousomuch : hirung
[2025-09-21 00:41:35] Dario1 : but enough about that
[2025-09-21 00:41:36] thankyousomuch : hiring
[2025-09-21 00:44:35] GoldFish79 : ruh ooh
[2025-09-21 00:46:59] Benobi : why would there be another "choices" ? Everythig in the world does it's "best" already. I mean a rock fall because of many many scientifics laws and consequences dating back to the big bang or even earlier. And so goes on for everything. Everything in the universe obeys laws and is the result of past consequences. I see no reason why a bird would fly differently because there wouldn't be a different wind or a different tree there. And beware about the atomic thing saying a particle is both here and not here : what scientists mean by that is that they can't OBSERVE and know for sure in what stats is the particle. Because they alter it by obersving it. But it doesn't mean they're really in both states and could switch.
[2025-09-21 00:48:37] PeacenLuv : buy the dips btc
[2025-09-21 00:48:55] Benobi : anyhow, as seducing are multiverse theories, it doesn't make sense to me. our decisons are chemcial results of ... everything. If we do act one way it's because of many many environemental pressures. And those results from physical laws that have been applied since beginning of time to everything. So I don't think we could have done differently a thing that happened.
[2025-09-21 00:49:11] PeacenLuv : long eentry 115626 longittup lezgohh fully bully bitcoin
[2025-09-21 00:49:17] Benobi : I don't think a rock could have fallen in a different way or places that it landed to.
[2025-09-21 00:49:24] Benobi : why would it ?
[2025-09-21 00:49:33] PeacenLuv : 😄
[2025-09-21 00:50:12] PeacenLuv : 😄
[2025-09-21 00:50:36] PeacenLuv : 😄
[2025-09-21 00:51:29] PeacenLuv : 😄
[2025-09-21 00:51:34] Dario1 : Benobi: the wind stays the same, the laws stay the same, but the bird decides to fly to west instead of east. How will that decision change his destiny?
[2025-09-21 00:52:17] Dario1 : or decides to fly to south
[2025-09-21 00:52:21] Dario1 : etc…
[2025-09-21 00:53:41] speedwell : We have strict rules here, you can only talk about bottoms and boob formations and what you would do with one.
[2025-09-21 00:53:56] contract details : :kek:
[2025-09-21 00:54:24] speedwell : I would long eet
[2025-09-21 00:54:25] Dario1 : yep that’s why I already said enough about that twice :kek:
[2025-09-21 00:57:55] speedwell : If it was raining titties and you looked up, you would catch a dick. This is a universal law. No matter which way the wind blows.
[2025-09-21 00:58:15] speedwell : Don't look up!
[2025-09-21 00:58:48] contract details : universal law you buy and wait and buy buuy buy the lower it goes
[2025-09-21 00:58:57] contract details : just dont blow up :Arthur:
[2025-09-21 00:59:14] speedwell : all the way to the gay wall.
[2025-09-21 00:59:36] PeacenLuv : 😄😄
[2025-09-21 01:00:30] PeacenLuv : 😄
[2025-09-21 01:02:16] Dario1 : Benobi: [2025-01-15 12:35:44] Dario1 : Symphoenix: This is actually the Many-worlds interpretation of quantum mechanics vs the Copenhagen interpretation. In Copenhagen, the act of observing collapses the wave function and forces it into a single state, in Many-Worlds interpretation, there are no wave function collapses, instead there is a parallel world for every possible outcome of quantum measurement. This interpretation is getting more validity with recent experiment results.
[2025-09-21 01:04:21] speedwell : NDE people cay this too. Some of them
[2025-09-21 01:04:22] BlissRP : have you guys heard the myth about temporals
[2025-09-21 01:04:29] BlissRP : if you study them you become highly regarded
[2025-09-21 01:05:12] speedwell : r£tarded?
[2025-09-21 01:05:27] BlissRP : no no i would never insinuate such a thing
[2025-09-21 01:05:36] BlissRP : humble regards
[2025-09-21 01:05:44] PeacenLuv : 😄😄
[2025-09-21 01:06:19] Dario1 : To relate this to trading: quantum physics has applications in trading :arthur:
[2025-09-21 01:06:30] Dario1 : https://www.daytrading.com/quantum-finance
[2025-09-21 01:06:41] Dario1 : “ However, due to the probabilistic nature of both quantum mechanics and financial markets, quantum principles can also have applications in finance, investing, and trading.”
[2025-09-21 01:06:51] Dario1 : but that’s institutional level
[2025-09-21 01:07:02] speedwell : Dario1: this flys against the law of conservation. That's an invinite amount of worlds
[2025-09-21 01:07:10] Dario1 : not for us on tb
[2025-09-21 01:07:30] PeacenLuv : no gay schitt plewz and dont argue
[2025-09-21 01:07:53] PeacenLuv : no pepez no gay stuff
[2025-09-21 01:08:12] PeacenLuv : keep them both in closet
[2025-09-21 01:08:12] speedwell : It's only gay if you don't charge
[2025-09-21 01:08:26] PeacenLuv : gay pepe pony club
[2025-09-21 01:08:37] Dario1 : speedwell: I run multiple parallel simulations on my computer every day. It’s called multithreading or concurrency. This is on classic computers
[2025-09-21 01:08:43] PeacenLuv : speedwell: yuk
[2025-09-21 01:09:06] BlissRP : someone make peacenluv type /unmute BlissRP :doge:
[2025-09-21 01:09:09] Dario1 : on quantum computers we will be able to run infinite number of parallel simulations without a problem
[2025-09-21 01:09:12] BlissRP : or ur gay btc
[2025-09-21 01:09:13] PeacenLuv : Dario1: i heard monte carlo in bj simulations
[2025-09-21 01:09:47] PeacenLuv : ill revisit cuz of u u shud b muted you n myr clarknova
[2025-09-21 01:09:56] speedwell : Dario1: Every decision of every being since the beging of time is in it's own world?
[2025-09-21 01:10:16] speedwell : nah, don't buy it
[2025-09-21 01:10:34] Dario1 : I couldn’t believe it either
[2025-09-21 01:10:45] Dario1 : but that’s what math suggests
[2025-09-21 01:10:49] speedwell : how do you even define a decision?
[2025-09-21 01:11:04] Dario1 : speedwell: let’s say you can long and short btc
[2025-09-21 01:11:07] PeacenLuv : i didnt know the fbi job was open until after patel cash got it i wudda done it ffzakez
[2025-09-21 01:11:15] Dario1 : so two options there
[2025-09-21 01:11:23] speedwell : I'd be in a thounsand world just pulling off.
[2025-09-21 01:11:54] Dario1 : Yep and yet our future primitive quantum computers can handle it
[2025-09-21 01:12:07] PeacenLuv : u cant both long n short btc in the long run vuk u guyz are werz than gay ladeez
[2025-09-21 01:12:13] Dario1 : that’s according to noble prize winning physicists
[2025-09-21 01:12:31] PeacenLuv : Dario1: vuk charlee noble
[2025-09-21 01:12:39] speedwell : a bit of a circle jerk going on there
[2025-09-21 01:12:50] Dario1 : tb knows beter
[2025-09-21 01:12:57] Dario1 : never doubt it :kek:
[2025-09-21 01:13:00] speedwell : Dario1: Have you seen Sabrina's post
[2025-09-21 01:13:16] Dario1 : speedwell: no, which one?
[2025-09-21 01:13:22] PeacenLuv : zirkl jerkz are gay not anything to do with crypto dont argue
[2025-09-21 01:14:39] Dario1 : BlissRP: I have had my disagreements on temporal time targets with Sympho
[2025-09-21 01:14:40] speedwell : Dario1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZO5u3V6LJuM&t=316s
[2025-09-21 01:14:46] speedwell : this one
[2025-09-21 01:15:29] Dario1 : speedwell: oh I know her. She also has a phd in physics
[2025-09-21 01:15:36] PeacenLuv : i got 0314 u peepz ever sleep i can see we have a prollem
[2025-09-21 01:15:59] Dario1 : yeah have seen this video before
[2025-09-21 01:16:10] speedwell : and says alot of it is BS and no gains since the 50's
[2025-09-21 01:16:19] PeacenLuv : ohh nohhh smart chix
[2025-09-21 01:16:42] Dario1 : well without the same quantum physics, your computer or phone wouldn’t work
[2025-09-21 01:17:07] Dario1 : and that theory contained a lot of bs according to ignorant people
[2025-09-21 01:17:59] Dario1 : but as time went on, it become the most successful human theory ever
[2025-09-21 01:18:11] Dario1 : even Einstein didn’t like it
[2025-09-21 01:18:26] Dario1 : but all experiments proved him wrong :arthur:
[2025-09-21 01:19:00] Benobi : My point is that the bird is not really deciding to fly south or west. Hes just a very complex rock but he obeys to chemical reactions linked to instincts. When he "decide" to go south its his...best and only choice since he made it. Why would he have made another decision when he made this one ? He made that decision because everything in the universe led it to make it.
[2025-09-21 01:19:05] speedwell : My life got better as soon as I realised I'm always wrong.
[2025-09-21 01:19:41] Benobi : Otherwise where do you draw a line between the rock, the tree, the moth, the virus, the bird or the human ?
[2025-09-21 01:19:46] speedwell : Benobi: Are there now two birds?
[2025-09-21 01:20:18] Benobi : Why ?
[2025-09-21 01:21:03] Benobi : If it's because of grammar typos i wont correct them it's 3 am in France x)
[2025-09-21 01:21:12] speedwell : You know, a new world is created at every decision point. Science brh
[2025-09-21 01:21:17] Dario1 : Benobi: how so you explain the results of wheeler’s delayed choice experiment or the double slit experiment for example?
[2025-09-21 01:21:52] Dario1 : Are you even familiar with these two experiments?
[2025-09-21 01:22:46] Dario1 : If you were, then you wouldn’t have said the above :arthur:
[2025-09-21 01:26:37] speedwell : We are dealing with subtle stuff. Photons for gods sake
[2025-09-21 01:26:53] speedwell : there is so much room for bs
[2025-09-21 01:26:58] Benobi : Im not sure, o dont think so but by checling quickly it does sound like the thought experiment i was refering to earlier. First of all they are "thought" experiment and its very imk important in quantum physics to make a distinction between the thought theories and concrete application. My humble compréhension is that in the experiment with the photon, its wrong to say they are always tangible because we cant grasp them or observe them but they actually are. We just cant determine their state. Is it not ? Im clearly not as informed as you hence why i ask questions
[2025-09-21 01:27:17] Benobi : Ive been mostly been reading Pratchett
[2025-09-21 01:28:31] Dario1 : Benobi: Not a thought experiment by the way. First year physics students have to perform the double slit experiment
[2025-09-21 01:28:38] Dario1 : this is basic stuff
[2025-09-21 01:28:40] speedwell : This price action hey?
[2025-09-21 01:28:47] thankyousomuch : 📉 :Arthur: Har har harrrr
[2025-09-21 01:28:55] Dario1 : you don’t even know the basics, let alone advanced ones :arthur:
[2025-09-21 01:29:33] speedwell : Have you seen my photon?
[2025-09-21 01:29:48] thankyousomuch : universe could be round
[2025-09-21 01:30:51] speedwell : The one waving?
[2025-09-21 01:31:05] speedwell : No, not that particular one
[2025-09-21 01:31:16] Dario1 : you are talking about the particle-wave duality?
[2025-09-21 01:31:33] speedwell : Just having some fun
[2025-09-21 01:32:41] thankyousomuch : if universe is round, physics is wrong lol
[2025-09-21 01:32:50] Dario1 : thankyousomuch: lol
[2025-09-21 01:32:50] thankyousomuch : :arthur:
[2025-09-21 01:32:54] speedwell : Physics has hit a wall, short it
[2025-09-21 01:33:17] Dario1 : There were people on tb who actually though earth was flat
[2025-09-21 01:34:08] Dario1 : had a convo with one of them here years ago
[2025-09-21 01:34:14] Dario1 : it was so funny :kek:
[2025-09-21 01:34:32] speedwell : Dario1: How does the atmosphere hold to the earth in a vacuum?
[2025-09-21 01:34:57] thankyousomuch : flat price huh
[2025-09-21 01:34:59] Dario1 : speedwell: we are blessed that our planet has a magnetic field
[2025-09-21 01:35:16] Dario1 : without it, earth would end up like mars
[2025-09-21 01:35:35] Dario1 : losing its atmosphere slowly
[2025-09-21 01:35:52] speedwell : vacuums are very very strong
[2025-09-21 01:36:18] speedwell : I put one on my willy once
[2025-09-21 01:38:32] Dario1 : speedwell: wait till you hear about quantum vacuum state
[2025-09-21 01:39:28] Dario1 : and vacuum decay
[2025-09-21 01:39:34] speedwell : Chat gpt said it was the magic of gravity, whatever that is.
[2025-09-21 01:39:58] Dario1 : I explained this to thankyousomuch years ago
[2025-09-21 01:40:20] Dario1 : basically once we are capable of concentrating a very powerful laser
[2025-09-21 01:40:25] Dario1 : onto a very tiny space
[2025-09-21 01:40:40] Dario1 : we can destroy the whole universe
[2025-09-21 01:40:54] speedwell : Science!
[2025-09-21 01:40:57] Dario1 : and the destruction will expand at the speed of light
[2025-09-21 01:41:06] PeacenLuv : 😄
[2025-09-21 01:41:17] Dario1 : could also happen with high energy particles naturally
[2025-09-21 01:41:23] speedwell : Do you realise how silly it all sounds?
[2025-09-21 01:41:27] PeacenLuv : 😄
[2025-09-21 01:41:54] Dario1 : and one such destruction could also be coming to us, but since it’s moving at light speed, we can never detect it anyway
[2025-09-21 01:42:12] Dario1 : speedwell: that’s what noble prize winning scientist say
[2025-09-21 01:42:35] PeacenLuv : 😄😄
[2025-09-21 01:42:47] speedwell : That's why nobody listens to them. They are smart dumb
[2025-09-21 01:42:58] speedwell : couldn't make toast.
[2025-09-21 01:43:02] Dario1 : Yet they invented your computer
[2025-09-21 01:43:10] speedwell : no they didn't
[2025-09-21 01:43:16] Dario1 : alright
[2025-09-21 01:43:51] speedwell : many many small decisions made the computer
[2025-09-21 01:44:11] speedwell : from all walks of life
[2025-09-21 01:44:33] speedwell : from mistakes too
[2025-09-21 01:44:43] speedwell : accidents
[2025-09-21 01:44:54] speedwell : nature observation
[2025-09-21 01:45:06] Dario1 : again, without the same quantum theory, your computer wouldn’t work
[2025-09-21 01:45:42] speedwell : what came first, the event or the theory?
[2025-09-21 01:46:07] Dario1 : the strange results of experiments came first
[2025-09-21 01:46:07] speedwell : we make fire, then explain it right?
[2025-09-21 01:46:27] Dario1 : and our inability to explain the results with our old classical theories
[2025-09-21 01:46:42] speedwell : you put horse before cart
[2025-09-21 01:46:55] Dario1 : then more and more experiments were performed, then a pattern becase apparent
[2025-09-21 01:47:10] speedwell : and then models
[2025-09-21 01:47:15] Dario1 : based on that pattern, quantum theory was formulated
[2025-09-21 01:47:28] speedwell : right, but still wrong
[2025-09-21 01:47:44] Dario1 : What’s wrong?
[2025-09-21 01:47:46] speedwell : power to predict
[2025-09-21 01:47:59] speedwell : science is always wrong
[2025-09-21 01:48:05] speedwell : just a good guess
[2025-09-21 01:48:25] Dario1 : then you don’t know anything about science on univ level
[2025-09-21 01:48:37] Dario1 : otherwise you wouldn’t have said this
[2025-09-21 01:48:43] speedwell : science just names things
[2025-09-21 01:48:59] speedwell : and as soon as you name something you are wrong
[2025-09-21 01:49:15] Dario1 : you are typing on a computer invented by science, the same for internet
[2025-09-21 01:49:30] Dario1 : what have you invented yourself? :arthur:
[2025-09-21 01:49:44] PeacenLuv : 😄
[2025-09-21 01:49:57] speedwell : I'm typing on technology. which is not science. 3 chilldren
[2025-09-21 01:50:28] Dario1 : tech wouldn’t work without the science behind
[2025-09-21 01:50:38] Dario1 : what is this primitive discussion I am having
[2025-09-21 01:50:40] Dario1 : LMAO
[2025-09-21 01:50:50] speedwell : like water falling?
[2025-09-21 01:51:12] speedwell : like lightening?
[2025-09-21 01:51:29] speedwell : you think everything is science
[2025-09-21 01:51:35] Dario1 : science can explain both
[2025-09-21 01:51:38] PeacenLuv : 😄
[2025-09-21 01:51:41] Dario1 : what’s your point?
[2025-09-21 01:51:53] PeacenLuv : 😄😄
[2025-09-21 01:52:10] Dario1 : I don’t think everything is science. That’s a wrong impression
[2025-09-21 01:52:44] speedwell : that 'science' has become an all consuming religion that all must bow down to. And I think in general it can serve me and fuc off
[2025-09-21 01:53:51] Dario1 : speedwell: you clearly don’t know anything about scientific method
[2025-09-21 01:54:17] speedwell : I do. but that's all it is. it is not 'the truth'
[2025-09-21 01:54:27] Dario1 : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_method
[2025-09-21 01:54:36] speedwell : science says so you must believe
[2025-09-21 01:55:12] Dario1 : Verifiable experiment results determine what theory is right or wrong
[2025-09-21 01:55:13] speedwell : it's a guess, an approximation
[2025-09-21 01:55:25] Dario1 : as soon as one such results contradicts an existing theory
[2025-09-21 01:55:33] Dario1 : it’s replaced immediately
[2025-09-21 01:55:37] Dario1 : unlike religion
[2025-09-21 01:55:48] Dario1 : where no claim can be verified
[2025-09-21 01:56:13] speedwell : I'm sorry, you fail to see the flaws, the lies, the money, the control
[2025-09-21 01:56:32] Dario1 : I see the lies and money’s influence more than you do
[2025-09-21 01:57:28] speedwell : yet you talk like it's infallible
[2025-09-21 01:58:09] Dario1 : but experiment results that have been verified over and over again can’t be disregarded because of those things
[2025-09-21 01:58:15] PeacenLuv : 😄😄
[2025-09-21 01:58:24] speedwell : by who?
[2025-09-21 01:58:27] speedwell : when?
[2025-09-21 01:58:34] Dario1 : Take me for example
[2025-09-21 01:58:36] speedwell : whith what
[2025-09-21 01:58:52] Dario1 : I have performed those two quantum physics experiments myself
[2025-09-21 01:59:00] Dario1 : spent days on it
[2025-09-21 01:59:03] PeacenLuv : 😄
[2025-09-21 01:59:04] Dario1 : in a team
[2025-09-21 01:59:26] speedwell : I have dropped something many times
[2025-09-21 01:59:32] Dario1 : some of those experiments have been performed and verified by thousands and thousands of other scientists
[2025-09-21 01:59:50] speedwell : so?
[2025-09-21 02:00:16] speedwell : I'm going to drop something right now, am I a scientist?
[2025-09-21 02:00:32] speedwell : oh look it feel to the ground
[2025-09-21 02:00:41] speedwell : Gravity!
[2025-09-21 02:00:58] Dario1 : depends on what measurement you perform and what you do with those data
[2025-09-21 02:01:04] speedwell : there. I just discovered grvity with science!
[2025-09-21 02:01:21] Dario1 : that’s the first step in scientific method
[2025-09-21 02:02:08] Dario1 : then you and others perform the same experiment
[2025-09-21 02:02:22] Dario1 : then one guy says hey guys look I noticed a pattern in data
[2025-09-21 02:02:33] speedwell : second is to question it. you still haven't discovered anything
[2025-09-21 02:03:01] Dario1 : you have discovered a pattern
[2025-09-21 02:03:41] Dario1 : then you come up with a formula for that pattern
[2025-09-21 02:03:59] PeacenLuv : 😄long entry 115566 pumpittup lezgohh btc
[2025-09-21 02:04:09] speedwell : still don't know what it is, just name and describe
[2025-09-21 02:04:23] speedwell : well done
[2025-09-21 02:04:50] Dario1 : with that formula you can at least predict what will happen next time you do the experiment differently
[2025-09-21 02:05:15] Dario1 : once you master how that physical phenomenon works, you van apply it
[2025-09-21 02:05:20] speedwell : sure, my ball of destruction will go this far
[2025-09-21 02:05:25] Dario1 : to make computers for example
[2025-09-21 02:05:39] Dario1 : It can explain how basic things work
[2025-09-21 02:05:55] Dario1 : but since this universe is so complex, more research is required
[2025-09-21 02:06:05] speedwell : it can predict control and name
[2025-09-21 02:06:38] Dario1 : that’s a good first step
[2025-09-21 02:06:39] speedwell : still don't know
[2025-09-21 02:06:48] speedwell : just a guess
[2025-09-21 02:06:52] Dario1 : yes that’s why they are still researching
[2025-09-21 02:07:06] Dario1 : if they didn’t research, you wouldn’t have your computer
[2025-09-21 02:07:15] speedwell : 'they'
[2025-09-21 02:07:29] speedwell : in the 'science religion'?
[2025-09-21 02:07:39] Dario1 : science never claimed to know everything by the way
[2025-09-21 02:07:46] Dario1 : not sure why you think like that
[2025-09-21 02:08:26] speedwell : science is a name of a method. that's all. there is no they
[2025-09-21 02:08:48] Dario1 : in science, unlike religion, as soon as you can contradict a theory with verifiable experiment results, that theory gets disregarded
[2025-09-21 02:09:06] speedwell : but an enclave has been formed. not true
[2025-09-21 02:09:23] speedwell : like the video I shared
[2025-09-21 02:09:32] speedwell : it's a club
[2025-09-21 02:09:33] Dario1 : that’s how science always corrects and improves itself. Religion doesn’t
[2025-09-21 02:09:42] speedwell : they protects its funding
[2025-09-21 02:09:56] Dario1 : speedwell: judge a tree by its fruits
[2025-09-21 02:09:57] speedwell : funding funding funding
[2025-09-21 02:10:17] Dario1 : speedwell: invent something better than scientific have done, then we will talk
[2025-09-21 02:10:31] speedwell : think climate change is bs? no funding for you sunny boy
[2025-09-21 02:11:12] Dario1 : that’s the influence of politics on science
[2025-09-21 02:11:17] speedwell : question virology, you've just been struck from the register, science!
[2025-09-21 02:11:48] speedwell : but that's the cloke they ware
[2025-09-21 02:12:34] Dario1 : Someone once asked Einstein what he was doing
[2025-09-21 02:12:40] speedwell : power and control uses 'science' to further its agendes
[2025-09-21 02:12:51] Dario1 : he replied: If I knew what I was doing, it wouldn’t be called research
[2025-09-21 02:13:01] Dario1 : or so something along those lines
[2025-09-21 02:13:15] Dario1 : imagine there were no funding to discover electron for example
[2025-09-21 02:13:45] speedwell : I'm all for mucking around with thigs, but don't tell me what is and what isn't because of science
[2025-09-21 02:13:46] Dario1 : we would still be living in stone age :arthur:
[2025-09-21 02:14:18] Dario1 : actually, a politician once asked they guy who discovered electron. He asked him what can we do with it?
[2025-09-21 02:14:21] speedwell : life is a mystery and always will be
[2025-09-21 02:14:30] PeacenLuv : 😄 @Dario1 btfd 5min btc bottomedchere
[2025-09-21 02:14:45] Dario1 : scientists replied: I have no clue, but I am sure one day you will find a way to tax it :kek:
[2025-09-21 02:15:11] Dario1 : a few decades later, almost nothing in our modern world would work without that
[2025-09-21 02:15:23] Dario1 : so what do you suggest?
[2025-09-21 02:15:33] Dario1 : we should stop funding research?
[2025-09-21 02:15:34] PeacenLuv : stops up 115583 last stop for new longerz
[2025-09-21 02:15:39] Dario1 : because it’s all bs?
[2025-09-21 02:15:48] speedwell : we have defiantly gone electric. I'm an electrician.
[2025-09-21 02:16:01] Dario1 : thought you were a musician
[2025-09-21 02:16:05] Dario1 : that’s nice
[2025-09-21 02:16:07] speedwell : white man magic
[2025-09-21 02:16:13] PeacenLuv : elektronz are gayy
[2025-09-21 02:16:13] speedwell : both
[2025-09-21 02:16:14] Dario1 : haha
[2025-09-21 02:16:29] speedwell : I'm many things
[2025-09-21 02:16:42] Dario1 : same and that’s how it should be
[2025-09-21 02:17:21] speedwell : PeacenLuv: somebody got to fill the holes
[2025-09-21 02:17:53] speedwell : this pa sucz
[2025-09-21 02:18:03] speedwell : I'm off to the garden
[2025-09-21 02:18:13] Dario1 : speedwell: actually science encourages you to muck around. Without it, no progress would have been made
[2025-09-21 02:18:22] speedwell : pagan stuff. you wouldn't understand
[2025-09-21 02:18:25] Dario1 : the crazier the idea or speculation, the better
[2025-09-21 02:19:04] speedwell : out of the box. candle makers would not have invented the electric light
[2025-09-21 02:19:17] Dario1 : earth being a sphere was one day a very crazy idea as well
[2025-09-21 02:19:29] Dario1 : they burned scientists for it :arthur:
[2025-09-21 02:19:33] speedwell : might be wrong
[2025-09-21 02:19:53] speedwell : we could exist on an infinite plane
[2025-09-21 02:20:48] Dario1 : many math professors committed suicide after research this infinity concept their whole life
[2025-09-21 02:20:55] speedwell : or be a cell in the body of Christ
[2025-09-21 02:21:05] Dario1 : BBC had a documentary about this two decades ago
[2025-09-21 02:21:11] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated long on `XBTU25`: Sell 900 USD @ 115601.5 - should’ve stuck to Monopoly money
[2025-09-21 02:21:22] Dario1 : researching*
[2025-09-21 02:21:29] PeacenLuv : 😄
[2025-09-21 02:22:11] speedwell : check out bnb
[2025-09-21 02:22:29] Mdx400 : down she blows
[2025-09-21 02:22:54] Dario1 : 1078
[2025-09-21 02:23:30] speedwell : some deals gone down
[2025-09-21 02:23:41] speedwell : though vol is dropping
[2025-09-21 02:23:45] PeacenLuv : 😄
[2025-09-21 02:24:34] PeacenLuv : funny how the btc berrazz alwayz gettin vukkedcinazz now
[2025-09-21 02:25:05] PeacenLuv : 😄
[2025-09-21 02:25:18] PeacenLuv : 😄
[2025-09-21 02:26:04] Dario1 : deals? referring to that Franklin Templeton one?
[2025-09-21 02:27:23] PeacenLuv : 😄😄
[2025-09-21 02:28:12] PeacenLuv : 😄
[2025-09-21 02:28:25] PeacenLuv : 😄😄
[2025-09-21 02:34:47] speedwell : Dario1: I guess?
[2025-09-21 02:34:56] speedwell : nothing else is moving
[2025-09-21 02:39:15] PeacenLuv : 😄
[2025-09-21 02:39:19] PeacenLuv : 😄
[2025-09-21 02:39:21] Dario1 : speedwell: It is quite possible
[2025-09-21 02:39:24] PeacenLuv : 😄
[2025-09-21 02:39:29] PeacenLuv : 😄
[2025-09-21 02:39:30] Dario1 : but could also be MM’s shenanigans :arthur:
[2025-09-21 02:40:01] PeacenLuv : 😄
[2025-09-21 02:40:47] PeacenLuv : 😄
[2025-09-21 02:40:48] speedwell : see if it holds. i have some on spot ive had for ages
[2025-09-21 02:41:24] speedwell : was thiking of swapping into gold
[2025-09-21 02:42:07] PeacenLuv : 😕😄
[2025-09-21 02:42:12] PeacenLuv : 😄