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[2025-09-05 03:58:01] Dario1 : he had the look of a don
[2025-09-05 03:58:06] Dario1 : godfather
[2025-09-05 03:58:20] speedwell : he got wise some how, got to look behind the vale
[2025-09-05 03:58:27] Dario1 : Yeah
[2025-09-05 03:58:41] Dario1 : that’s what I liked most about him
[2025-09-05 03:59:22] Dario1 : Then you must also know Coast to Coast Am
[2025-09-05 03:59:28] Dario1 : and Art Bell
[2025-09-05 03:59:31] speedwell : yeah
[2025-09-05 03:59:36] speedwell : great stuff
[2025-09-05 03:59:40] Dario1 : Man rip art bell
[2025-09-05 03:59:55] speedwell : I've been down all the rabbit holes
[2025-09-05 04:00:03] Dario1 : hehe same
[2025-09-05 04:00:18] speedwell : you still have to live in the world though
[2025-09-05 04:01:19] speedwell : in the end, nobody cares. they want the comfortable lie, they like the illusion
[2025-09-05 04:02:57] Dario1 : speedwell: Infinite Love is the Only Truth - Everything Else is Illusion
[2025-09-05 04:03:13] speedwell : David?
[2025-09-05 04:03:16] Dario1 : That’s a david icke quote I liked back in 90s
[2025-09-05 04:03:17] speedwell : book
[2025-09-05 04:03:17] Dario1 : yeah
[2025-09-05 04:03:29] speedwell : sounds like him
[2025-09-05 04:03:32] Dario1 : and the interesting part is that quantum physics later confirmed it
[2025-09-05 04:03:55] speedwell : it all converges
[2025-09-05 04:03:58] Dario1 : after this universe collapses, only thing that remains outside spacetime is quantum entanglements
[2025-09-05 04:04:04] speedwell : spirit science
[2025-09-05 04:04:13] Dario1 : love it
[2025-09-05 04:05:18] speedwell : science is the mind trying to understand the infinite.
[2025-09-05 04:05:42] speedwell : have fun, but you will never get there
[2025-09-05 04:07:00] speedwell : I'm watching this dog chewing something being a dog
[2025-09-05 04:07:22] speedwell : we need to be more like that. just be.
[2025-09-05 04:07:43] speedwell : eat fuc sleep. laugh cry
[2025-09-05 04:08:03] speedwell : not take everything so seriously
[2025-09-05 04:08:17] speedwell : we'll all be dead soon.
[2025-09-05 04:08:30] thankyousomuch : (only longers)
[2025-09-05 04:08:46] speedwell : everybody
[2025-09-05 04:08:53] thankyousomuch : only longers
[2025-09-05 04:09:00] thankyousomuch : shorters dont have those problems
[2025-09-05 04:09:19] speedwell : where is your short again?
[2025-09-05 04:09:29] thankyousomuch : im shorting since 9 years
[2025-09-05 04:09:45] thankyousomuch : btc cant be longed
[2025-09-05 04:09:52] speedwell : ever think of longing another account?
[2025-09-05 04:10:01] thankyousomuch : longs dont work
[2025-09-05 04:10:28] thankyousomuch : take an alt and short it for 9 million years
[2025-09-05 04:10:34] thankyousomuch : night guys
[2025-09-05 04:10:34] speedwell : but we in the bull run of the century?
[2025-09-05 04:10:40] thankyousomuch : like xrp e. g.
[2025-09-05 04:10:51] Dario1 : speedwell: You sound like my wife. She is into Eastern spiritually and always argues with me when I talk about science. We have funny convos :kek:
[2025-09-05 04:11:17] Dario1 : But I always tell her I only accept a scientific fact after experiments confirm it. Before that it remains just speculation which is good
[2025-09-05 04:11:19] thankyousomuch : pullrun for alts
[2025-09-05 04:11:18] speedwell : cool, perfect for each other
[2025-09-05 04:11:29] thankyousomuch : 9 million years down
[2025-09-05 04:11:34] thankyousomuch : night lol
[2025-09-05 04:11:43] speedwell : money buys science too you know
[2025-09-05 04:11:45] Dario1 : 9 trillion years bear market
[2025-09-05 04:11:52] thankyousomuch : 😌
[2025-09-05 04:12:41] Dario1 : speedwell: I know all about it. In medical and pharma field it’s thousand times more worse than physics or math
[2025-09-05 04:13:10] speedwell : yeah right. math hard to corrupt
[2025-09-05 04:13:21] Dario1 : indeed
[2025-09-05 04:14:14] Dario1 : She actually wrote a book about Rumi
[2025-09-05 04:14:15] speedwell : all the 'science' types I know got the injection
[2025-09-05 04:14:26] speedwell : okay
[2025-09-05 04:14:34] speedwell : he's cool
[2025-09-05 04:14:58] Dario1 : Yeah his poetry was best selling in US
[2025-09-05 04:15:02] speedwell : because, you know, trust the science
[2025-09-05 04:15:37] speedwell : what's his main thing?
[2025-09-05 04:16:01] speedwell : being in the moment?
[2025-09-05 04:17:08] Dario1 : Yeah that too
[2025-09-05 04:17:11] Dario1 : Rumi's poetry is a series of spiritual and mystical experiences. It is a reflection on Divinity, on nature's beauty, a song and dance, an intense feeling.
[2025-09-05 04:17:21] Dario1 : From google
[2025-09-05 04:17:36] speedwell : that's about it
[2025-09-05 04:17:41] Dario1 : He was alive thousand years ago or something
[2025-09-05 04:17:53] Dario1 : but bis poetry is still best seller in US
[2025-09-05 04:18:03] Dario1 : shows people are more awake than we think
[2025-09-05 04:19:58] speedwell : and some things never change
[2025-09-05 04:21:36] speedwell : so, no bully friday pump
[2025-09-05 04:21:53] speedwell : oh well, maby next week?
[2025-09-05 04:23:14] Dario1 : Rumi — 'We have been secretly fed from beyond space and time. That's why we look for something more than this.'
[2025-09-05 04:23:30] speedwell : Dario1: I was about to watch this before we spoke.
[2025-09-05 04:23:34] speedwell : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkDleTQv-Do
[2025-09-05 04:23:34] Dario1 : in his other poems he talks about bow this space and time is fake
[2025-09-05 04:23:50] speedwell : my man!
[2025-09-05 04:23:51] Dario1 : how*
[2025-09-05 04:24:23] speedwell : I don't know what it is, but I don't think it is for us.
[2025-09-05 04:24:30] speedwell : space
[2025-09-05 04:24:55] speedwell : I think we are meant to be here, on earth
[2025-09-05 04:26:28] Dario1 : speedwell: Interesting video. It’s the irregular or continental lodges that we should be worried about. The regular lodges have innocent members who have no clue what’s going on.
[2025-09-05 04:27:21] speedwell : true
[2025-09-05 04:35:07] PeacenLuv : https://www.tradingview.com/x/TPdARL6y/ pumpin btc lezgohh
[2025-09-05 04:35:55] PeacenLuv : https://www.tradingview.com/x/nrq3tE4j/ bullish wave
[2025-09-05 04:37:05] Dario1 : Europe is waking up
[2025-09-05 04:37:39] Dario1 : https://youtube.com/watch?v=8-ZpH787kik 🎸
[2025-09-05 04:45:04] Dario1 : speedwell: by the way, I saved your Bogdanoff brothers video you shared last week and watched it the next day
[2025-09-05 04:45:11] Dario1 : too funny :kek:
[2025-09-05 04:45:39] Dario1 : never knew they had phds in physics
[2025-09-05 04:45:50] Dario1 : I only knew them from crypto memes
[2025-09-05 04:51:25] speedwell : me same. was really interesting
[2025-09-05 04:51:52] BlissRP : know what goes up must come down doesnt work if you are an emotional wreck :arthur:
[2025-09-05 04:53:40] PeacenLuv : https://www.tradingview.com/x/ppHVJkse/ my onlee gezz iz up btc
[2025-09-05 04:53:56] PeacenLuv : how rude
[2025-09-05 04:54:18] PeacenLuv : bearz are like ohh my gosh wazzup
[2025-09-05 04:54:34] PeacenLuv : 301 buck start if base is 111111
[2025-09-05 04:54:42] PeacenLuv : gewd stop anyhoww
[2025-09-05 04:54:46] PeacenLuv : on a long
[2025-09-05 04:54:56] Dario1 : speedwell: good thing the papers we had to write were team work. Like 100 different researchers writing a single paper. That’s how it usually worked back a decade ago in experimental quantum particle research
[2025-09-05 04:55:00] PeacenLuv : im jus too darn kewll
[2025-09-05 04:56:43] BlissRP : PeacenLuv: sew kewl tunnel man
[2025-09-05 04:59:28] Dario1 : BlissRP: PeacenLuv has been around saying the same bullish lines for years now
[2025-09-05 05:00:05] Dario1 : BlissRP: Don’t you get bored by saying the same things about him a couple of times every day :arthur:
[2025-09-05 05:00:21] Dario1 : I mean there are millions of other topics out there
[2025-09-05 05:01:20] Dario1 : Same for Shawn
[2025-09-05 05:01:54] Dario1 : He has been explaining he is referring to US market hours whenever he talks about market is open or closed
[2025-09-05 05:02:23] Dario1 : but still after a year you guys keep bullying him
[2025-09-05 05:02:53] BlissRP : Dario1: i am just a computer program ser
[2025-09-05 05:03:01] BlissRP : beep boop
[2025-09-05 05:03:27] Dario1 : BlissRP: nah I think you guys just love bullying :kek:
[2025-09-05 05:03:50] BlissRP : 10100110101110101
[2025-09-05 05:04:15] Dario1 : you should upgrade to qubits
[2025-09-05 05:04:29] Dario1 : classical computers can only handle 0 and 1
[2025-09-05 05:04:49] Dario1 : but quantum computers can handel those two plus all values between those two
[2025-09-05 05:05:27] Dario1 : and all that at the same facking time in parallel
[2025-09-05 05:06:47] Dario1 : google quantum superposition
[2025-09-05 05:07:10] Dario1 : it will become very important for cryptocurrency one day
[2025-09-05 05:11:36] BlissRP : number go up = good
[2025-09-05 05:14:27] Dario1 : number go up = excellent
[2025-09-05 05:14:34] Dario1 : not just good
[2025-09-05 05:14:54] BlissRP : :catjam:
[2025-09-05 05:18:01] Dario1 : :catjam:
[2025-09-05 05:29:35] speedwell : Shawn has tease me written on his forehead.
[2025-09-05 05:30:04] Dario1 : Yes he was very arrogant until a few months ago
[2025-09-05 05:30:14] Dario1 : it was actually me who started criticizing his arrogance
[2025-09-05 05:30:26] Dario1 : then the rest of you guys followed
[2025-09-05 05:30:35] Dario1 : but he is very humble now
[2025-09-05 05:31:06] Dario1 : which is why I stopped teasing him
[2025-09-05 05:31:23] speedwell : I'm going to meditate for 30min cause I'm better than everybody else
[2025-09-05 05:31:36] Dario1 : because continuing it would be considered bullying
[2025-09-05 05:31:49] speedwell : it's just not funny anymore
[2025-09-05 05:31:49] Dario1 : speedwell: haha
[2025-09-05 05:31:59] Dario1 : enjoy bro
[2025-09-05 05:32:43] PeacenLuv : https://www.tradingview.com/x/QuAQsLJF/ incoming pump btc
[2025-09-05 05:32:57] PeacenLuv : volume 5min entering
[2025-09-05 05:35:37] Dario1 : If you want to tease him, then do it with his accuracy or the lack of
[2025-09-05 05:35:59] Dario1 : that US market open/close shet is must based on lies
[2025-09-05 05:36:13] Dario1 : just*
[2025-09-05 05:36:25] BlissRP : Dario1: the market does that to you sometimes :kek:
[2025-09-05 05:36:28] Dario1 : he clearly explained he means US market hours
[2025-09-05 05:36:45] Dario1 : BlissRP: does what?
[2025-09-05 05:36:52] BlissRP : humbles
[2025-09-05 05:37:07] Dario1 : BlissRP: haha yeah the market is designed to humble us all
[2025-09-05 05:37:16] Dario1 : there are no exceptions :kek:
[2025-09-05 05:37:48] Dario1 : The market treats us all equally
[2025-09-05 05:38:02] Dario1 : ut some more equal than others :arthur:
[2025-09-05 05:38:09] BlissRP : except those who sell taxis and those who buy pengu
[2025-09-05 05:38:26] BlissRP : jk actually cant use the pengu joke anymore cause it pumped hard :pepe:
[2025-09-05 05:38:31] Dario1 : Referring to deez nuts?
[2025-09-05 05:38:43] Dario1 : She is female by the way, be nice to her
[2025-09-05 05:38:56] BlissRP : sorry ser
[2025-09-05 05:39:04] BlissRP : i dont discriminate
[2025-09-05 05:39:17] Dario1 : pengu was referring to Reaper?
[2025-09-05 05:39:24] BlissRP : indeed
[2025-09-05 05:39:26] Dario1 : that one was very funny 😂
[2025-09-05 05:39:32] BlissRP : he has learned from his actions
[2025-09-05 05:39:40] BlissRP : the fact it mega pumped after is almost worse
[2025-09-05 05:39:40] Dario1 : Specially with husky’s chart adding more fun to it
[2025-09-05 05:39:45] BlissRP : :pepe:
[2025-09-05 05:40:03] PeacenLuv : bitcoin pump city lezgohh
[2025-09-05 05:40:05] Dario1 : Yeah
[2025-09-05 05:46:00] BlissRP : PeacenLuv: dang bro you might actually be on to something this time :arthur:
[2025-09-05 06:07:00] speedwell : I have been with the infinite, now I must feed the ex wifes dog and cats :pepe:
[2025-09-05 06:08:56] Laplace : https://onekey.so/blog/ecosystem/crypto-and-quantum-computing-is-it-a-threat/
[2025-09-05 06:11:01] Laplace : I hope BTC gets hacked and goes back to 1K, so we can load up more :D
[2025-09-05 06:11:08] Symphoenix : down
[2025-09-05 06:16:19] Erwinos : Yeah so as I said yesterday for those who remember. Wave X down can be shallow or deep but it will pop up to wave Y (118-120k) before you can get in. And this is what happens during Asian hours
[2025-09-05 06:16:45] Erwinos : Getting in now will squeeze pigs again
[2025-09-05 06:20:00] Laplace : Erwinos: 5th and the final wave?
[2025-09-05 06:22:25] Symphoenix : Next Time Target = 06h45 UTC
[2025-09-05 06:23:19] Symphoenix : support at 109800
[2025-09-05 06:29:25] Symphoenix : drop about to intensify - tighten sl !
[2025-09-05 07:04:05] Dr.van_Doom666 : SCAAAAAMMMM
[2025-09-05 07:04:47] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated short on `ETHUSDT`: Buy 0.7700 ETH @ 4353.71 ($3,353.33) - Buenos Dias!
[2025-09-05 07:05:43] BlissRP : Symphoenix: what happened ser
[2025-09-05 07:05:48] BlissRP : you lied again!
[2025-09-05 07:06:22] BlissRP : Sympinocchio
[2025-09-05 07:07:15] BlissRP : Dr.van_Doom666: wen doom
[2025-09-05 07:08:41] Dr.van_Doom666 : BlissRP: NOW!!!
[2025-09-05 07:08:56] BlissRP : stop buy scammers
[2025-09-05 07:09:03] BlissRP : longer scammers
[2025-09-05 07:11:06] speedwell : Finally, a bit of scam
[2025-09-05 07:11:30] BlissRP : speedwell: was starting to lose faith in humanity
[2025-09-05 07:12:29] speedwell : I have green on ma screen!
[2025-09-05 07:12:51] BlissRP : :catjam:
[2025-09-05 07:15:06] speedwell : seems to be a bit of resistance at 112.6?
[2025-09-05 07:15:10] NiceGuy : in corn we trust :btc:
[2025-09-05 07:15:46] speedwell : come on boy, you can do it
[2025-09-05 07:16:02] BlissRP : a break of that likely leads us right to 116
[2025-09-05 07:16:05] BlissRP : exciting times
[2025-09-05 07:16:25] Dr.van_Doom666 : DOWN ONLY DOWN!!!!
[2025-09-05 07:16:44] speedwell : one bite at a time 113.4 would be nice
[2025-09-05 07:21:12] leBread : :eyes:
[2025-09-05 07:21:26] BlissRP : :rocket:
[2025-09-05 07:21:39] BlissRP : one symphoenix short call at a time
[2025-09-05 07:21:41] BlissRP : :kek:
[2025-09-05 07:22:24] Dr.van_Doom666 : symphoenix is good to countertrade. always wrong
[2025-09-05 07:22:38] BlissRP : Dr.van_Doom666: +1 ser
[2025-09-05 07:23:04] Dr.van_Doom666 : BlissRP: +1 back Sire. Mahalo!
[2025-09-05 07:23:11] BlissRP : Mahalo!
[2025-09-05 07:27:19] speedwell : okay, corn, take a breath, as much as you need
[2025-09-05 07:27:26] AlmostALong : /position xrpusdt ``` :bitmex: XRPUSDT: 93,241 XRP @ 2.898968 ```
[2025-09-05 07:27:30] AlmostALong : help me
[2025-09-05 07:27:54] speedwell : /position xrpusd ``` :bitmex: XRPUSD: 82 Cont @ 3.1674 ```
[2025-09-05 07:28:00] speedwell : help me!
[2025-09-05 07:29:01] Dr.van_Doom666 : bulls are exhausted
[2025-09-05 07:33:08] BlissRP : forever long
[2025-09-05 07:33:12] BlissRP : i wanna be forever long
[2025-09-05 07:33:21] BlissRP : do you really want to long forever
[2025-09-05 07:33:22] Dr.van_Doom666 : BlissRP: rekt
[2025-09-05 07:33:23] BlissRP : FOREVER
[2025-09-05 07:33:34] BlissRP : Dr.van_Doom666: -1 ser
[2025-09-05 07:34:14] speedwell : Forever!
[2025-09-05 07:51:07] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated short on `XRPUSD`: Buy 25 Cont @ 2.8499 ($1,609.94)
[2025-09-05 07:52:42] speedwell : one down
[2025-09-05 07:55:21] BlissRP : theres the guy that cancelled his order at 111500
[2025-09-05 07:55:24] BlissRP : fill er up
[2025-09-05 08:06:45] blaster33 : what is this no volume pump
[2025-09-05 08:06:59] BlissRP : blaster33: sussy
[2025-09-05 08:07:13] BlissRP : look at 5 min tunnel on sol :kek:
[2025-09-05 08:07:54] jjhiijiji : a no volume pump usually happens when HFT firms pull the orders from the book and reduce liquidity
[2025-09-05 08:08:02] jjhiijiji : same as no volume dumps
[2025-09-05 08:08:40] jjhiijiji : then theyll probably wait till some big orders are triggers and will frontrun them in the same direction with their low latency bots
[2025-09-05 08:08:41] BlissRP : jjhiijiji: so you wouldnt trust it based on that?
[2025-09-05 08:08:51] jjhiijiji : im not saying i wouldnt trust itj
[2025-09-05 08:08:57] BlissRP : ok
[2025-09-05 08:08:58] jjhiijiji : it sometimes reverses and sometimes continues
[2025-09-05 08:09:12] jjhiijiji : theres no way to be certain
[2025-09-05 08:09:59] jjhiijiji : its definitely less trustworthy than a full blown large volume pump where it was clearly huge buy interest that drove it up
[2025-09-05 08:10:08] BlissRP : +1 ser
[2025-09-05 08:10:14] jjhiijiji : but that doesnt mean it wont keep going up
[2025-09-05 08:10:27] BlissRP : but there is less volume because people are waiting for rates decision tbh
[2025-09-05 08:10:28] Dr.van_Doom666 : blaster33: just another scam before total DOOM!!!!
[2025-09-05 08:10:31] BlissRP : so easier to manipulate
[2025-09-05 08:10:32] jjhiijiji : im personally long i was long from 112k for almost 2 weeks or more and ive been underwater and now im just back overwater again
[2025-09-05 08:10:40] Dr.van_Doom666 : 113400 than goblintown
[2025-09-05 08:10:53] jjhiijiji : yeah they usually pull orders before big data or important potential pivots
[2025-09-05 08:11:20] jjhiijiji : thats why we often get scamwicks up and down when either powel talks or big data is released
[2025-09-05 08:11:27] LickMyBulls : Only sideways no boiz
[2025-09-05 08:11:31] jjhiijiji : they pull the order liquidity is so low that it can scam up or down or both ways easilty
[2025-09-05 08:11:43] jjhiijiji : then they jump back in when they determine the direction
[2025-09-05 08:12:05] jjhiijiji : usually ends up in leg up or leg down and then they fill the order book again and we go back into a channel
[2025-09-05 08:12:08] BlissRP : they :pepe:
[2025-09-05 08:12:14] BlissRP : they/them :pepe:
[2025-09-05 08:12:21] jjhiijiji : yeah in this case liquidity providers
[2025-09-05 08:12:30] jjhiijiji : talk to chat GPT about HFT's for a while
[2025-09-05 08:12:45] BlissRP : that sounds like a rabbit hole
[2025-09-05 08:13:02] jjhiijiji : and ask it why their activity sometimes ends in low volume spikes it will explain everytyhing to you
[2025-09-05 08:13:07] Erwinos : Laplace: 5th wave down passed long time at the lows
[2025-09-05 08:13:36] Erwinos : We have an xyw corrective wave up now
[2025-09-05 08:13:50] Erwinos : X is the low from yesterday
[2025-09-05 08:13:58] jjhiijiji : its not a rabbit hole, they are fully legal entities which trade usually incredibly tight spreads which is why we always end up in clear 'channels' which is usually their buy and sell brackets
[2025-09-05 08:14:17] jjhiijiji : and they usually provide 'stability' to many assets but have often been persecuted for causing crashes in the past
[2025-09-05 08:14:22] BlissRP : jjhiijiji: rabbit hole means it goes deep ser
[2025-09-05 08:14:44] jjhiijiji : stability because they usually provide hgue amount of ask and bid orders in the book which keeps prices steadier
[2025-09-05 08:14:54] jjhiijiji : but its definitely the case that they have also caused cascades
[2025-09-05 08:15:11] jjhiijiji : u can get the examples from chatgpt historically when HFT's have caused crashes its interesting to read
[2025-09-05 08:16:03] jjhiijiji : they also got caught many times for artificially capping or propping up a price for certain assets only to dump/pump in the opposite direction, but in court its often hard to prove because its almist impossible to prove the 'intent' of the orders in that moment but sometimes it led to convictions and big fines
[2025-09-05 08:16:17] jjhiijiji : to be honest i dont even understand how they allow HFT's to operate legally
[2025-09-05 08:16:44] jjhiijiji : they also position servers clsoe to wallstreet and often frontrun orders which kind of creates a two tier system of traders
[2025-09-05 08:16:49] BlissRP : jjhiijiji: probably because its the majority of volume esp in stocks :kek:
[2025-09-05 08:16:51] jjhiijiji : were talking about miliseconds
[2025-09-05 08:17:23] Dr.van_Doom666 : DOOM INCOMING!!!!
[2025-09-05 08:17:30] jjhiijiji : i rememember reading about it and just being baffled for ages about why they are allowed to be a thing
[2025-09-05 08:17:49] jjhiijiji : i think HFT's shouldnt even be allowed tbh especially when they have that kind of advantage
[2025-09-05 08:18:04] jjhiijiji : talk to chatbot about it get some info ull be shocked
[2025-09-05 08:19:35] RobVacation : Yeah. That's why they operate on a very low spread but trade large amounts.
[2025-09-05 08:20:28] jjhiijiji : yes
[2025-09-05 08:20:36] jjhiijiji : and when they pull the orders which could be for several reasons
[2025-09-05 08:20:40] jjhiijiji : we see low volume spikes
[2025-09-05 08:21:20] RobVacation : so retailers shouldn't compete with HFT.
[2025-09-05 08:21:22] jjhiijiji : the order book is just eaten up real quick and can scam either way when that happens
[2025-09-05 08:21:36] jjhiijiji : i mean, you cant really compete, you can only try and not get scammed
[2025-09-05 08:21:53] RobVacation : YEAH
[2025-09-05 08:22:32] jjhiijiji : and tits thee main reason we see scams up before huge dumps and scams down before pumps
[2025-09-05 08:22:51] Dario1 : In HFT business milliseconds is actually too slow
[2025-09-05 08:22:55] Dario1 : microseconds is okay
[2025-09-05 08:23:12] Dario1 : but those on nanoseconds level win
[2025-09-05 08:23:31] jjhiijiji : yes ur right milliseconds probably too big
[2025-09-05 08:23:38] AKrKKK : 😄
[2025-09-05 08:23:41] jjhiijiji : but they got the point
[2025-09-05 08:23:46] speedwell : 'I'd go to the moon in a nano second if we could'
[2025-09-05 08:25:08] Dario1 : and they pay millions of dollars just to rent a tiny space for their servers close to wall street servers
[2025-09-05 08:25:09] jjhiijiji : they can also force the price by reducing liquidity in one direction and keeping it tight in the other
[2025-09-05 08:25:21] Dario1 : no way retail can compete with that
[2025-09-05 08:25:25] jjhiijiji : this is how theyll usually sweep a few ticks to force stop orders to trigger
[2025-09-05 08:25:37] jjhiijiji : or hunt liquidity
[2025-09-05 08:26:13] jjhiijiji : its 'illegal' but because its so hard to prove the intent in court it just goes on
[2025-09-05 08:26:21] jjhiijiji : there is no competing
[2025-09-05 08:26:41] jjhiijiji : there is only understanding how they work and what kind of movements it can create so you can apply it to ur risk management
[2025-09-05 08:26:51] jjhiijiji : forget competing
[2025-09-05 08:27:29] Dario1 : Besides their bots are written in low level languages, like assembly or c/c++
[2025-09-05 08:27:31] jjhiijiji : the couple times they got persecuted for it for some reason someone in the company testified and confiemed what happened and it just always resulted in a fine that is nothing compared to what they make anyway
[2025-09-05 08:28:15] Dario1 : yeah watched a video about it
[2025-09-05 08:28:30] Dario1 : I think mrbritcoin posted it here 3 years ago
[2025-09-05 08:28:34] jjhiijiji : i remember reading about this sh1t and thinkin, fak, bog is real
[2025-09-05 08:28:37] jjhiijiji : this sh1t is actually real
[2025-09-05 08:29:12] jjhiijiji : and started going through articles trying to figure out how they manage to retain a legal status when its so obviously bullsh1t
[2025-09-05 08:29:22] jjhiijiji : its not something that should reasonably be allowed to exist in a fair market
[2025-09-05 08:29:39] jjhiijiji : but thats just the fact, its just not a fair market
[2025-09-05 08:29:48] jjhiijiji : and nothing we can do about it
[2025-09-05 08:30:12] RobVacation : you can try to do the same business as them.
[2025-09-05 08:30:15] jjhiijiji : heh
[2025-09-05 08:30:32] jjhiijiji : funny
[2025-09-05 08:30:45] RobVacation : build a company like they did. NO?
[2025-09-05 08:30:51] jjhiijiji : how much capital do you have
[2025-09-05 08:31:08] jjhiijiji : dont even answer it
[2025-09-05 08:31:11] RobVacation : Well, that's secondary to me.
[2025-09-05 08:31:11] jjhiijiji : the answer is 'not enough'
[2025-09-05 08:31:52] RobVacation : I think that money is not the most important thing here, but the execution of all this.
[2025-09-05 08:32:39] jjhiijiji : i could be wrong but i think the amount of capital you need to start up something like that is incredibly high
[2025-09-05 08:33:28] RobVacation : as you said, you also have to be able to deal with legal and legal issues.
[2025-09-05 08:33:51] RobVacation : find the right people.
[2025-09-05 08:34:18] RobVacation : Some people have so much money that they don't know what to do with it.
[2025-09-05 08:34:30] jjhiijiji : but were not one of those people
[2025-09-05 08:34:35] jjhiijiji : gotta run back later
[2025-09-05 08:34:58] Dario1 : From what I heard you are looking at a minimum of 1 mil usd to be spend on programmers alone
[2025-09-05 08:34:58] RobVacation : maybe you'll change your mind tomorrow.lol
[2025-09-05 08:35:16] Dario1 : because it requires advanced optimization skills that not every coder has.
[2025-09-05 08:35:24] Dario1 : Then you need a team of mathematicians with phds
[2025-09-05 08:35:30] RobVacation : yeah
[2025-09-05 08:35:35] Dario1 : to come up with quantitative mathematical models and that alone takes a year or so
[2025-09-05 08:37:29] Dario1 : let’s say you hire five of those working for a year
[2025-09-05 08:38:02] Dario1 : 2-3 coders
[2025-09-05 08:38:09] Dario1 : rent a space for server
[2025-09-05 08:38:21] Dario1 : need at least 2-3 mil just for that
[2025-09-05 08:47:09] RobVacation : just like Market Maker made money on a very small spread.
[2025-09-05 08:49:47] RobVacation : Bid-Ask Spread
[2025-09-05 08:50:01] bluemaster : one day I don;t watch a market doing gardening and look what happens, my best trades when I am not even watching 😁
[2025-09-05 08:50:07] bluemaster : :btc:
[2025-09-05 08:50:26] Dario1 : RobVacation: yeah
[2025-09-05 08:50:37] Dario1 : I know MMs are not very popular on trollbox
[2025-09-05 08:50:45] Dario1 : but they make markets efficient
[2025-09-05 08:50:57] Dario1 : They improves liquidity and narrow bid ask spread
[2025-09-05 08:51:46] Dario1 : the more active they are, the cheaper it becomes for other market participants to trade
[2025-09-05 08:53:10] RobVacation : a few cents per shares
[2025-09-05 08:53:31] RobVacation : or something
[2025-09-05 08:53:58] RobVacation : Im talking about the business model.
[2025-09-05 08:54:14] Dario1 : indeed, one of them was making millions of dollars profits per day from those tiny movements
[2025-09-05 08:54:26] Dario1 : watched a documentary about it
[2025-09-05 08:54:32] RobVacation : yeah, Of course, as in any business, there is Risk and Profit.
[2025-09-05 08:55:02] RobVacation : you earn while you sleep.
[2025-09-05 08:57:02] Dario1 : Talking about risks
[2025-09-05 08:57:10] Dario1 : one of them went bankrupt because its competitor found a way to be faster, microseconds faster
[2025-09-05 08:58:00] RobVacation : there is always someone who wants to rip you off.hahhaha
[2025-09-05 08:58:09] Dario1 : hahaha always
[2025-09-05 09:03:29] BMEXcheers : the devil couldnt reach me so he crashed the price of bmex
[2025-09-05 09:04:56] speedwell : Chinese professor talking geo politics AI translation. Most interesting. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uv9UlQ6KkWA
[2025-09-05 09:09:06] Erwinos : So now line test where most late pigs get squashed
[2025-09-05 09:10:07] Erwinos : X is a bit higher than I expected so i would say 118-123 range we top out. From there I will take a short in case top is already in at 125
[2025-09-05 09:10:46] Erwinos : What I dont like is that we pump before the numbers. Thats reagularly not good unless I missed a fundamental guys?
[2025-09-05 09:11:46] Erwinos : For now we will test 115.5 prev resist and or the upslowing tl at low 112
[2025-09-05 09:23:49] Erwinos : As said we go back to the line and pigs slaughtered
[2025-09-05 09:24:17] BlissRP : Erwinos: consume the lines ser, dont visualize
[2025-09-05 09:24:19] BlissRP : :doge:
[2025-09-05 10:04:17] Symphoenix : 2nd try = down - tight sl
[2025-09-05 10:11:18] ninnk : @admin the customize columns button is positions tab is not working
[2025-09-05 10:12:53] Symphoenix : it will be a great day for true believers :)
[2025-09-05 10:15:34] Symphoenix : Careful, DUMPZILLA has been spotted in Upper East Side ! XOXO
[2025-09-05 10:19:02] Symphoenix : You ask, we deliver -> Next Time Target = 11h15 UTC....
[2025-09-05 10:21:32] AKrKKK : :doge: :doge: :doge:
[2025-09-05 10:25:41] Symphoenix : Always remember = when you start seeing op-ed about how it can only go higher, start selling. In 1928-29, every analysts swore the current high was the last and that is only when they switched bullish that it collapsed... History is such a precious ressource !
[2025-09-05 10:32:35] Symphoenix : You just have to read : "The greatest bull market in history" by Martin Armstrong to realize that ! Look at the newspapers of that time too !
[2025-09-05 10:36:07] Symphoenix : Your love keeps lifting me Lifting me higher lalala
[2025-09-05 10:38:35] Symphoenix : This is why we are true rebels ! You want us to be sharks ? We'll be pacific goldfishes helping each others ! Learn to read the charts because they are the only reliable sauce of information...
[2025-09-05 10:40:48] Symphoenix : What a terrific audience, so glad to be here !
[2025-09-05 10:46:26] Symphoenix : "The Dun’s Review, issued for the week of October 7, stated the following: "Nothing has occurred to indicate that widespread trade recession is under way and statistics of railroad freight traffic show week after week, that distribution of merchandise re mains at a notably high level.’ Indeed, the fundamentalists remained bullish. Many signs of the economy were still quite bullish. There was no real news which indicated that the economy was about to collapse. This still led many to look at the dip as a buying opportunity yet the selling continued de spite the calls from the fundamentalists who claimed that everything was just fine."
[2025-09-05 10:46:59] Symphoenix : NOT KIDDING !
[2025-09-05 10:47:45] AKrKKK : :doge:
[2025-09-05 11:10:57] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated long on `XBTUSDT`: Sell 0.0472 XBT @ 112194.1 ($5,296.41)
[2025-09-05 11:14:16] Erwinos : BlissRP: bad sign we Re under 2 lines
[2025-09-05 11:18:18] Symphoenix : Ready ?
[2025-09-05 11:20:46] Erwinos : To slump?
[2025-09-05 11:21:01] Erwinos : This is yr short place when bearish
[2025-09-05 11:28:23] bluemaster : Erwinos: 😜 relax mate , I recommend to you switch to a "3 h " chart minimum for iday scalping
[2025-09-05 11:34:01] bluemaster : :btc:
[2025-09-05 11:36:31] LickMyBulls : Have dario and leBread stopped bitching at each other now?
[2025-09-05 11:51:52] Symphoenix : Some fear NFP will be negative.... Hard to decypher for now... Stay tuned !
[2025-09-05 11:55:37] Benobi : where is Shawn when we need him ?
[2025-09-05 11:58:25] speedwell : I'll pretend to be shawn
[2025-09-05 11:58:43] speedwell : When the market opens we will go down
[2025-09-05 11:59:26] speedwell : and only when price reaches 109 will it again go up.
[2025-09-05 11:59:45] speedwell : but only to 114.
[2025-09-05 11:59:55] speedwell : then it will go down to 112
[2025-09-05 12:05:52] Erwinos : bluemaster: dude i look at bigger picture
[2025-09-05 12:06:11] Erwinos : Price up before numbers under the line is never good
[2025-09-05 12:09:13] bluemaster : Erwinos: You think I care what some employment cooked numbers say?
[2025-09-05 12:10:49] jjhiijiji : theres no easy way to even digest the data from jobs at this point. some would say weakened job market would ease rate future rate cut plan, meaning pump, others could say, strong job market signifies strong economy, meaning pump
[2025-09-05 12:10:58] jjhiijiji : but it could dump in either scenario either
[2025-09-05 12:11:10] jjhiijiji : the only thing that you can assume is that there will likely be volatility
[2025-09-05 12:11:13] jjhiijiji : up or down
[2025-09-05 12:11:24] jjhiijiji : so if ur in short term trades you exit and enter after the volatility ends
[2025-09-05 12:11:30] jjhiijiji : if ur in a long term trade noone gives a sh1t
[2025-09-05 12:11:39] jjhiijiji : the data is just noise
[2025-09-05 12:13:27] bluemaster : jjhiijiji: or if you are like me you never exit "NET" long position, just managing exposure that is all ... because when Bitcoin moves, you will not have time to jump in !
[2025-09-05 12:14:00] jjhiijiji : bluemaster: thats why i said logn term trades dont give a sh1t
[2025-09-05 12:14:13] jjhiijiji : you dont even need to know any dates or look at any numbers
[2025-09-05 12:14:14] jjhiijiji : just wait
[2025-09-05 12:15:19] bluemaster : jjhiijiji: +1
[2025-09-05 12:15:33] bluemaster : :btc: I hope we dump to 70k
[2025-09-05 12:15:51] Symphoenix : Today will be the day the world will realize the USA are in recession/stagflation.
[2025-09-05 12:16:04] jjhiijiji : :kek:
[2025-09-05 12:17:12] bluemaster : /liq xbtusdt ``` :bitmex: XBTUSDT: 138161.7 ```
[2025-09-05 12:17:25] AKrKKK : /pnl ethusd ``` :bitmex: ETHUSD: 0.0016 XBT RPNL, 0.0011 XBT UPNL ```
[2025-09-05 12:17:39] bluemaster : /liq xbtu25 ``` :bitmex: XBTU25: 1000000 ```
[2025-09-05 12:17:50] PeacenLuv : https://www.tradingview.com/x/nduucEa1/ pumpittup btc
[2025-09-05 12:17:57] AKrKKK : /position ethusd ``` :bitmex: ETHUSD: 13 Cont @ 4345.83 ```
[2025-09-05 12:17:57] PeacenLuv : 5min bullish
[2025-09-05 12:19:00] bluemaster : if you go down I make more $ , if you go up I make more BTC ,MM can suck my cock
[2025-09-05 12:19:13] auzz : /position btcusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: 21,400 USD @ 111439.2378 ```
[2025-09-05 12:19:22] contract details : bluemaster: can i suck it too?
[2025-09-05 12:19:26] contract details : :arthur:
[2025-09-05 12:19:30] Symphoenix : This is going to be a nightmare. Saloon doors on steroids !
[2025-09-05 12:20:02] bluemaster : contract details: nah only for my MM
[2025-09-05 12:20:21] contract details : bluemaster: how did you find out the mm is a 20yo fit asian chick
[2025-09-05 12:21:02] Symphoenix : And remember, first strike is for energy, the second for water supply. What do you do with BTC without power ? NOTHING !!!
[2025-09-05 12:22:01] bluemaster : contract details: you can see how they Market Making ,MM doesn't have balls
[2025-09-05 12:29:42] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated short on `DOGEUSD`: Buy 50 Cont @ 0.21874 ($1,231.63)
[2025-09-05 12:29:45] ninnk : 3
[2025-09-05 12:29:47] ninnk : 2
[2025-09-05 12:29:48] ninnk : 1
[2025-09-05 12:30:07] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated short on `ETHUSD`: Buy 110 Cont @ 4475.29 ($55,549.41) - Ciao, chow-chow!
[2025-09-05 12:30:37] LickMyBulls : Pammmmmp
[2025-09-05 12:30:56] Erwinos : Woooe
[2025-09-05 12:31:11] blaster33 : just traps
[2025-09-05 12:31:13] contract details : AMERICAAA
[2025-09-05 12:31:18] Erwinos : Very bad numberd amazingly bad. Big rate cut tbe
[2025-09-05 12:31:19] blaster33 : 100k in the waiting room
[2025-09-05 12:31:25] speedwell : ha
[2025-09-05 12:31:40] ninnk : untz untz untz untz :doge:
[2025-09-05 12:31:42] speedwell : battle raging
[2025-09-05 12:32:06] "it will be........" : .
[2025-09-05 12:32:26] ninnk : isnt this fun
[2025-09-05 12:32:37] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 3000 USD @ 113128.1
[2025-09-05 12:32:50] CryptoStrich : bullish
[2025-09-05 12:33:00] CryptoStrich : whoever drumped is the fool of the year
[2025-09-05 12:33:09] Erwinos : Eco is. Crashing so up
[2025-09-05 12:33:29] PeacenLuv : CryptoStrich: yeah thats how i like to see the numbers flow ticker tik
[2025-09-05 12:33:31] PeacenLuv : fast
[2025-09-05 12:33:46] CryptoStrich : but never trade news...
[2025-09-05 12:33:55] CryptoStrich : I think mostly already price in
[2025-09-05 12:34:09] PeacenLuv : https://www.tradingview.com/x/nduucEa1/ bullish btc right off my chart lezgohh
[2025-09-05 12:34:13] PeacenLuv : weeee
[2025-09-05 12:34:22] RomanW93 : what news?
[2025-09-05 12:34:45] contract details : RomanW93: americans have no jobs pump it
[2025-09-05 12:34:46] contract details : :Arthur:
[2025-09-05 12:35:02] RomanW93 : thats bullish
[2025-09-05 12:35:36] CryptoStrich : RomanW93: untemployment report
[2025-09-05 12:35:38] speedwell : the economy is fake, flight to risk!
[2025-09-05 12:37:25] contract details : a lot of excitement priice stays the same great asset
[2025-09-05 12:37:33] contract details : very stable
[2025-09-05 12:39:07] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 7600 USD @ 112526.8
[2025-09-05 12:39:15] Erwinos : Line test thats all
[2025-09-05 12:39:28] Erwinos : If we break we go down to 107 again
[2025-09-05 12:39:47] LickMyBulls : Pampu rejected
[2025-09-05 12:39:50] Erwinos : Make a flat at least
[2025-09-05 12:41:08] PeacenLuv : 😄https://www.tradingview.com/x/ai5pUqZr/ pumpittup 5min btc
[2025-09-05 12:42:01] The Emerging Bull : Weak ass pump
[2025-09-05 12:42:19] contract details : more like weak ass flatline
[2025-09-05 12:42:20] contract details : :pepe:
[2025-09-05 12:42:29] bluemaster : /rpnl xbtusdt ``` :bitmex: XBTUSDT: 4,233.45 USDT RPNL ```
[2025-09-05 12:42:39] bluemaster : /rpnl xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: 0.1908 XBT RPNL ```
[2025-09-05 12:43:18] PeacenLuv : herewe gohhhh btc bully
[2025-09-05 12:43:33] PeacenLuv : https://www.tradingview.com/x/tA4bdUQw/ longittup btc
[2025-09-05 12:45:31] PeacenLuv : https://www.tradingview.com/x/St3pzomN/ wavee tunnel btc pumpittup lezgohh 5min
[2025-09-05 12:52:47] ninnk : https://prnt.sc/KETLwfZrUNsz
[2025-09-05 12:56:42] Symphoenix : down hard
[2025-09-05 12:56:52] DMC2 : up or down?
[2025-09-05 12:56:55] Erwinos : 113.5 last liquidity grab for last short option
[2025-09-05 12:57:48] Erwinos : 15 min rsi to pass with higher price or short the ponzi
[2025-09-05 12:58:03] AKrKKK : :Doge:
[2025-09-05 13:01:19] PeacenLuv : btc pump the 5min bully sahweeet
[2025-09-05 13:01:37] PeacenLuv : stops up 112758
[2025-09-05 13:06:01] AlmostALong : /position xrpusdt ``` :bitmex: XRPUSDT: 93,241 XRP @ 2.898968 ```
[2025-09-05 13:06:06] AlmostALong : It is almost a long
[2025-09-05 13:08:58] Symphoenix : oh boi, enjoy Buddies !
[2025-09-05 13:11:10] DMC2 : bears gonna be dead
[2025-09-05 13:11:56] Erwinos : Hidden bear div on 5-1hr
[2025-09-05 13:12:14] DMC2 : Erwinos: this means moon right
[2025-09-05 13:12:18] Erwinos : You all bullish i am bearish atm
[2025-09-05 13:12:19] Symphoenix : (short us30, for those interested)
[2025-09-05 13:12:30] Erwinos : I was bullish while you all bearish
[2025-09-05 13:18:16] Symphoenix : Are we having fun yet ?
[2025-09-05 13:20:39] PeacenLuv : https://www.tradingview.com/x/PtZOPyOZ/ buy the dip 5min btc lezgohh
[2025-09-05 13:20:49] PeacenLuv : DMC2: ya longs only pertner
[2025-09-05 13:20:53] PeacenLuv : 😁
[2025-09-05 13:21:07] PeacenLuv : ya yur not my partner but we can jus say it
[2025-09-05 13:21:12] PeacenLuv : 😆😆😆
[2025-09-05 13:21:32] PeacenLuv : btc berraz hands up
[2025-09-05 13:22:07] PeacenLuv : while i loot yur frikin poketz bwaaahaahaahaahaa lezgohh btc fully bully pumpittup
[2025-09-05 13:22:24] PeacenLuv : bring munnee dearz
[2025-09-05 13:25:09] PeacenLuv : https://www.tradingview.com/x/2RFTet2o/ incomin pump btc longittup 5min lezgohh
[2025-09-05 13:25:34] al guul : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMaE6toi4mk&list=RDxMaE6toi4mk&start_radio=1
[2025-09-05 13:25:54] PeacenLuv : vuk waz dario talkin a lot lately i may hav to mute that punk spam i got 1 guy in my chat box hf he littered it
[2025-09-05 13:26:09] PeacenLuv : 😁
[2025-09-05 13:26:20] PeacenLuv : wtfz on that kidz mind..