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[2025-08-28 03:02:24] Symphoenix : FMI = IMF (sorry)
[2025-08-28 03:06:02] Symphoenix : You know, the world as we know it today is about to change radically. Always remember that the Romans under Marcus Aurelius believed as strongly as we do that their world was indestructible.
[2025-08-28 03:06:35] Andy RSA : I think next month could be tricky, thinking about shorting
[2025-08-28 03:07:47] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated short on `SOLUSD`: Buy 20 Cont @ 207.54 ($463.63)
[2025-08-28 03:09:59] Symphoenix : Next time target : 03h13 UTC ! Perfect short signal !
[2025-08-28 03:11:52] Symphoenix : At this moment of the story, I really hope I'm wrong....
[2025-08-28 03:12:26] marsin123 : U are
[2025-08-28 03:15:26] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 1200 USD @ 111913.7
[2025-08-28 04:00:38] migozelaaa : 116k* this week
[2025-08-28 04:00:44] migozelaaa : 160k next month
[2025-08-28 04:07:37] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 20900 USD @ 112105 - No refunds :arthur:
[2025-08-28 04:09:02] migozelaaa : Imagíne 116k today
[2025-08-28 04:10:31] PeacenLuv : long 112125
[2025-08-28 04:10:34] marsin123 : migozelaaa: 116800 today cme gap will close
[2025-08-28 04:10:45] PeacenLuv : pumpittup lezgohh
[2025-08-28 04:21:57] 45th_blown_account : When BTC great again :pepe:
[2025-08-28 04:36:05] PeacenLuv : wow im pretty certain i nailed that long btc
[2025-08-28 04:36:57] PeacenLuv : entry 112175 stops 112101 frick me
[2025-08-28 04:38:02] PeacenLuv : um even though im gonna stay green i think the bext 6mobthscim gonna keep funding 250x long position no close complete position jus vukaround abov here
[2025-08-28 04:38:26] PeacenLuv : next*
[2025-08-28 04:38:44] PeacenLuv : 6 mths fund 250x longs
[2025-08-28 04:38:54] migozelaaa : 200 december
[2025-08-28 04:39:23] PeacenLuv : sui held first so its good to long yoo
[2025-08-28 04:39:32] PeacenLuv : too
[2025-08-28 04:40:02] PeacenLuv : must b coin management at the highest level
[2025-08-28 04:40:38] PeacenLuv : 😁im into sui . not a projekt like btc has been
[2025-08-28 04:43:01] PeacenLuv : i just sold sui n added profits to position and its werking i think i can keep doin btc too i dont need the profit
[2025-08-28 04:43:12] PeacenLuv : so ill long it
[2025-08-28 04:44:21] PeacenLuv : its really a kewl situation if i can do it til the cows come home
[2025-08-28 04:45:29] PeacenLuv : btc up n over 20milly yen per 1 . its land
[2025-08-28 04:45:50] PeacenLuv : prolly tokyo iz short land
[2025-08-28 04:46:40] PeacenLuv : really the basics if fresh water n air is there as well
[2025-08-28 04:47:05] PeacenLuv : shud hav a Gretta statue
[2025-08-28 04:47:25] PeacenLuv : 😁😁late teens
[2025-08-28 04:48:01] PeacenLuv : n bred
[2025-08-28 04:48:56] PeacenLuv : already
[2025-08-28 04:49:38] PeacenLuv : not labred
[2025-08-28 04:50:12] PeacenLuv : he must b a bot ai vuked up
[2025-08-28 04:51:23] PeacenLuv : so im green 180 percent here 250x umm hmm many many lts multiple units each fre willy
[2025-08-28 04:51:43] PeacenLuv : lots n units
[2025-08-28 04:51:44] migozelaaa : 116k today
[2025-08-28 04:52:26] PeacenLuv : now to find sum chik to date
[2025-08-28 04:52:45] PeacenLuv : its wifes permission i seek
[2025-08-28 04:53:37] PeacenLuv : 😁wow btc goin up still weird
[2025-08-28 05:02:07] PeacenLuv : 1 day ill try 100xing ripple agaim wen im stronger capital
[2025-08-28 05:03:02] PeacenLuv : this weekenedcme i knew the game would change in my favour i studied blockchain tech after my first buyin
[2025-08-28 05:06:08] PeacenLuv : i havent practice traded over 35yrs . im live real
[2025-08-28 05:06:57] PeacenLuv : maybe fx 20 plus years ago . very start of my fx history . no yon
[2025-08-28 05:07:07] PeacenLuv : yan
[2025-08-28 05:07:26] PeacenLuv : no gyna currency then
[2025-08-28 05:07:55] PeacenLuv : before chinese feds played
[2025-08-28 05:10:03] PeacenLuv : longstops up 113008 pumpittup btc
[2025-08-28 05:12:01] PeacenLuv : im short btc now
[2025-08-28 05:12:08] PeacenLuv : 😁😁
[2025-08-28 05:15:43] PeacenLuv : got lucky there
[2025-08-28 05:32:56] PeacenLuv : long entry 112891 longittup lezgohh
[2025-08-28 05:33:37] PeacenLuv : wow fast way to make munnee that barelybdipped n i pocketed change
[2025-08-28 05:48:42] WinstonChurchill : migozelaaa: 80k today
[2025-08-28 05:49:00] WinstonChurchill : we have reached the top
[2025-08-28 05:49:01] WinstonChurchill : its game over
[2025-08-28 05:49:11] WinstonChurchill : shortig season has started
[2025-08-28 05:49:34] WinstonChurchill : :downrocket: :downrocket: :downrocket: :downrocket: :downrocket: :downrocket: :downrocket: :downrocket:
[2025-08-28 05:49:37] WinstonChurchill : :downrocket: :downrocket: :downrocket: :downrocket: :downrocket: :downrocket: :downrocket: :downrocket: :downrocket: :downrocket: :downrocket: :downrocket: :downrocket: :downrocket: :downrocket: :downrocket: :downrocket: :downrocket:
[2025-08-28 05:49:43] WinstonChurchill : :downrocket: :downrocket: :downrocket: :downrocket: :downrocket: :downrocket: :downrocket: :downrocket: :downrocket: :downrocket: :downrocket: :downrocket:
[2025-08-28 05:58:10] PeacenLuv : pumpittup btc lezgohh long entree 112842
[2025-08-28 06:13:17] PeacenLuv : https://www.tradingview.com/x/tgHY7VyF/ therez 3hr im out again
[2025-08-28 06:13:55] PeacenLuv : https://www.tradingview.com/x/XCkfkHLB/ long sui
[2025-08-28 06:14:12] migozelaaa : WinstonChurchill: lol
[2025-08-28 06:17:38] PeacenLuv : https://www.tradingview.com/x/EsRqgA8t/ ive followed sui maybe 8mths this pretty cheap now
[2025-08-28 06:17:57] PeacenLuv : i keep longing it not xrp
[2025-08-28 06:18:50] Senior. Professor. : BitMEX_Hans: I love you, ser. My sword and my heart are forever yours, ser. Without you, ser, I am but a shadow of a man, ser. Swear fealty to me, ser, and together we shall conquer brunch, ser. mahalo! :Arthur:
[2025-08-28 06:18:51] PeacenLuv : 3dayv sui https://www.tradingview.com/x/z6g6Srzl/
[2025-08-28 06:20:25] PeacenLuv : https://www.tradingview.com/x/k6U2ergX/ btc 15min lil lofty
[2025-08-28 06:20:28] 45th_blown_account : summer nothingness , the void :pepe:
[2025-08-28 06:20:50] PeacenLuv : longing 112933
[2025-08-28 06:20:55] PeacenLuv : 😁
[2025-08-28 06:21:40] PeacenLuv : and lower
[2025-08-28 06:24:05] Crypto_Cowboy_1982 : Can't see anything really keeping this from another ATH in September
[2025-08-28 06:26:58] PeacenLuv : https://www.tradingview.com/x/cMXPJ9Mg/ pumpittup btc im fully loaded longs again lezgohh
[2025-08-28 06:27:33] PeacenLuv : https://www.tradingview.com/x/HeHZ7HFn/ beauty 15min gunna rip btc berrazzz azz
[2025-08-28 06:30:00] PeacenLuv : 3hr tunnel abov 114823
[2025-08-28 06:30:18] PeacenLuv : well through that target
[2025-08-28 06:30:31] BitMEX_Hans : Senior. Professor.: hey buddy!
[2025-08-28 06:31:04] Senior. Professor. : BitMEX_Hans: Good Morning, ser. Aloha! :doge: :catjam: :alpaca:
[2025-08-28 06:32:05] leBread : nice, this is what I wanted to see, still a bit weak, but better than goblin town. :pepe:
[2025-08-28 06:32:16] BitMEX_Hans : Senior. Professor.: Aloha! how are you? It's been some time
[2025-08-28 06:32:54] PeacenLuv : https://www.tradingview.com/x/pyTJbgU8/ gewd 3hr view btc
[2025-08-28 06:34:31] BitMEX_Hans : PeacenLuv: also knocking on some trendlines.. could be a good day if we break up
[2025-08-28 06:34:35] Senior. Professor. : BitMEX_Hans: Aloha, noble ser! Long have I wandered the lonely roads awaiting your return. At last, fate smiles upon me again, ser The Bitcoin price, noble ser, has humbled me more than any dragon could. I dare not check it again, ser. :catjam:
[2025-08-28 06:34:58] BitMEX_Hans : Senior. Professor.: :pepe:
[2025-08-28 06:35:55] Senior. Professor. : BitMEX_Hans: That’s exactly the face I make every time I check Bitcoin too :P Do not mock me with your amphibian visage, ser, for my suffering is real, ser. :doge:
[2025-08-28 06:36:09] leBread : i would not dare look at a dragon either. scary.
[2025-08-28 06:37:36] Senior. Professor. : leBread: :D
[2025-08-28 06:38:23] leBread : dragons look like big lizards, and we all know lizard come in circular space ships and eat mice, but really wants to eat humans.
[2025-08-28 06:39:23] leBread : like i said, scary stuff.
[2025-08-28 06:40:12] Senior. Professor. : leBread: At last, you know the truth, ser. The lizards care not for mice, only for the tender crunch of human ambition, ser. :arthur:
[2025-08-28 06:40:48] leBread : Senior. Professor.: not all knows the truth, once known its impossible to forget.
[2025-08-28 06:43:28] Senior. Professor. : leBread: “A grave truth indeed, ser. Once the veil is lifted, there is no return to blissful ignorance, ser. Every rustle in the bushes, every gecko upon the wall, every circular shadow in the sky — all whisper the same tale, ser. The lizards are watching… and worse, they are judging my fashion choices. :doge:
[2025-08-28 06:44:20] leBread : Senior. Professor.: :doge: happy to have you back ser.
[2025-08-28 06:45:25] Senior. Professor. : leBread: And I, ser, am honored beyond measure to stand once more at your side, ser. Long have I wandered the wastelands of silence, my only companions the whispers of lizards and the fading echoes of memes, ser. Yet now, reunited, I feel the strength of a thousand knights return to my weary bones, ser. Truly, ser, no quest is too perilous, no dragon too fearsome, so long as we ride together once more, ser. mahalo :arthur:
[2025-08-28 06:53:34] Erwinos : 1 mil 24k long still running. I will sell half at 120k the weekend. All as I predicted since this week
[2025-08-28 06:54:53] Erwinos : Of course the numbers today n tmmrw should be in line with the 120 target
[2025-08-28 06:55:17] RomanW93 : Erwinos: you still have a long from 24k?
[2025-08-28 06:55:39] Erwinos : WinstonChurchill: just feeling for bs today or what?
[2025-08-28 07:00:12] bmagic : /position xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: 30,000 USD @ 111361.0548 ```
[2025-08-28 07:05:51] Erwinos : RomanW93: no 1 million and 24k
[2025-08-28 07:07:17] Erwinos : Maybe i will take 50k profit and call it a day
[2025-08-28 07:07:32] Erwinos : Will see how today will go
[2025-08-28 07:08:24] speedwell : Weekly candle.
[2025-08-28 07:08:46] Erwinos : Most logical is a lower top maybe 122k than fall back in september to 100k and from there the real melt up to 137k till the crash happen and short it
[2025-08-28 07:09:05] Erwinos : Sounds like bitcoin
[2025-08-28 07:09:43] Erwinos : From here to 137 is not very likely so I sell at 120k the weekend than part 122k and close position
[2025-08-28 07:16:04] gemeo2 : G'day. I also think this'll head towards 100k area then new Aths by year end. Targets 140 to 170 for the big short at end of bullrun
[2025-08-28 07:23:59] punk as beach : mahalo fags
[2025-08-28 07:30:17] bmagic : /position xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: 6,000 USD @ 111361.0548 ```
[2025-08-28 07:30:43] bmagic : /position xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: 500 USD @ 111361.0548 ```
[2025-08-28 07:41:32] BlissRP : gemeo2: +1
[2025-08-28 07:42:21] contract details : nothing changed just sell 200k :pepe:
[2025-08-28 07:43:25] Erwinos : Ok so for those who just gamble i made some cals and a plan
[2025-08-28 07:44:21] Erwinos : 1. Weekend, max early next week we will reach a lower high. Like 119-122 range. The 786 of this move is 120.7
[2025-08-28 07:44:34] contract details : MISTER PRESIDENT
[2025-08-28 07:44:48] ssssssffv : 233
[2025-08-28 07:44:49] contract details : BEAR WITNESS TO MY DEGENERACY
[2025-08-28 07:45:09] Erwinos : 2. Next fomo euphoria maybe we even reach close to the top whatever as long as we stay under the previous daily support it all dsnt matter
[2025-08-28 07:46:20] Erwinos : 2. We retrace back to the 50 retrace of the 74-124k move and that a low 99k potentially golden pocket at 61.8 thats a low 90k
[2025-08-28 07:46:19] leBread : fruit loops is not actually made from fruits.
[2025-08-28 07:46:44] contract details : leBread: it's made of 0s and 1s duh, great program
[2025-08-28 07:47:08] leBread : contract details: indeed, it gives more energy than it takes.
[2025-08-28 07:48:43] Erwinos : From that retrace to golden pocket a top between 170 and a low 210k is possible
[2025-08-28 07:50:00] Erwinos : So yeah my main message sell on time if you are long already and look what will happen the weekend if we are around my predicted numbers you know what to do
[2025-08-28 07:54:28] leBread : Sometimes it is a good thing to just roam and see what others think, there are free profits into knowing majority is always wrong.
[2025-08-28 07:54:50] leBread : Do not lean into mainstream nonsense, be the 1%.
[2025-08-28 07:59:42] 26541 : afff
[2025-08-28 08:00:27] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated short on `SOLUSD`: Buy 638 Cont @ 214.43 ($15,483.08) - Wallet's feeling lighter, huh?
[2025-08-28 08:08:10] speedwell : ready?
[2025-08-28 08:09:41] gsje7itpu : 3463rhtt
[2025-08-28 08:12:54] leBread : speedwell: was born ready ! gimme my profits ser !
[2025-08-28 08:13:38] speedwell : leBread: It's feeling pumpy don't you think?
[2025-08-28 08:13:50] bluemaster : https://www.tradingview.com/x/F8U2CpJ3/
[2025-08-28 08:14:33] leBread : speedwell: Slightly, its hanging under the white squiggly line on the 1 hour... I want it to pass the purple one for max pump potentials, until then, lets see if we can even move to the purple one.
[2025-08-28 08:15:34] speedwell : it's on top of my purple one 200/1hr
[2025-08-28 08:18:44] bluemaster : :btc:
[2025-08-28 08:19:20] fesfwqfwf : ☺️
[2025-08-28 08:34:59] sgsgeghgjhshfshg : awgwge
[2025-08-28 08:46:08] outdoob : :)
[2025-08-28 08:51:15] leBread : Time to take out some top longers? Yes indeed.
[2025-08-28 08:56:54] leBread : as Dr Van Doom would have said: DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!
[2025-08-28 08:59:19] marsin123 : /position solusdt ``` :bitmex: SOLUSDT: 5 SOL @ 188.71264 ```
[2025-08-28 08:59:30] marsin123 : /pnl solusdt ``` :bitmex: SOLUSDT: 364.10 USDT RPNL, 126.83 USDT UPNL ```
[2025-08-28 09:00:14] marsin123 : /pnl ltcusdt ``` :bitmex: LTCUSDT: 15.54 USDT RPNL, 65.02 USDT UPNL ```
[2025-08-28 09:00:40] marsin123 : /pnl xrpusdt ``` :bitmex: XRPUSDT: 47.04 USDT RPNL, 27.29 USDT UPNL ```
[2025-08-28 09:01:27] marsin123 : /pnl crvusdt ``` :bitmex: CRVUSDT: -0.08 USDT RPNL, 30.33 USDT UPNL ```
[2025-08-28 09:01:53] marsin123 : Printin moneyzzz
[2025-08-28 09:14:05] leBread : When max euphoria, max DOOM will take place. :arthur:
[2025-08-28 09:14:23] leBread : Look at the red candles growing...
[2025-08-28 09:14:30] bmagic : /position xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: 500 USD @ 111361.0548 ```
[2025-08-28 09:14:37] bmagic : /position solusd ``` :bitmex: SOLUSD: -500 Cont @ 213.29 ```
[2025-08-28 09:15:48] leBread : if eyes are used, they can see things.
[2025-08-28 09:25:25] Erwinos : leBread: nope usdt is resetting against usd
[2025-08-28 09:25:41] Erwinos : leBread: yea but at prev daily
[2025-08-28 09:26:02] leBread : dollar resetting against dollar :arthur:
[2025-08-28 09:26:59] leBread : The things I hear every day amazes me sometimes.
[2025-08-28 09:27:09] Erwinos : Cme only 3k to grow..
[2025-08-28 09:27:47] Erwinos : leBread: leverage against spot bro
[2025-08-28 09:28:05] Erwinos : That means bullish
[2025-08-28 09:28:35] leBread : I know how to read a chart, but thanks for your opinion.
[2025-08-28 09:29:39] leBread : We are right below what I call bullish territory, so yes, the move is bullish. But we ain't out of the woods yet.
[2025-08-28 09:30:29] leBread : That does not invalidate that it will go back down a bit to rekt a few refreshed bulls thats late into the game.
[2025-08-28 09:30:59] leBread : Since we are still in objectively speaking, in bearish territory still.
[2025-08-28 09:33:48] marsin123 : Bearish territory 🤷🤦🙅 bullish territory will be at ath's?
[2025-08-28 09:34:28] marsin123 : Long your longs before it's too late again you smart azs
[2025-08-28 09:35:01] leBread : I have my checkpoints that I have used for the last decades that is working very well for me how evaluate whats what. What works for me, might not work for you if you dont know how to apply it.
[2025-08-28 09:36:01] leBread : This current move has potential into becoming a real bullish mode, and the probabilities are high. But it is not yet bullish, its just a bearish retrace so far.
[2025-08-28 09:36:41] leBread : Always keep both scenarios in mind at all times saves you from supporting Arthurs next ferrari.
[2025-08-28 09:37:27] leBread : Working with probabilities is _not_ an exact science based on facts.
[2025-08-28 09:39:43] leBread : So yes, right now we are retesting the breakdown from an important support, and the next move will decide if there will be a bearish continuation or a bullish markup phase next.
[2025-08-28 09:43:13] Erwinos : Yes agreed. 112.3 is possible before 115
[2025-08-28 09:44:34] leBread : I would say 110k but hey, whatever happens happens. Just be ready.
[2025-08-28 09:46:06] BTChandicap : when drop?
[2025-08-28 09:52:31] AlmostALong : soon because Erwinos is long
[2025-08-28 09:52:46] AlmostALong : /position xrpusdt ``` :bitmex: XRPUSDT: 110,241 XRP @ 2.912747 ```
[2025-08-28 09:52:51] AlmostALong : It is almost a long
[2025-08-28 10:05:23] contract details : The sun rises in New York and btc goes down
[2025-08-28 10:05:27] contract details : :arthur:
[2025-08-28 10:08:48] marsin123 : AlmostALong: yu crazy boiii
[2025-08-28 10:21:48] AlmostALong : marsin123: why
[2025-08-28 10:37:31] Erwinos : leBread: 110? Hmm yeah but after a retest of prev daily
[2025-08-28 10:37:44] Erwinos : 110 now is a bit too far outlook
[2025-08-28 10:38:09] Erwinos : AlmostALong: i am already long the whole backtest
[2025-08-28 10:38:24] Erwinos : And I will be short as soon we hit resistance
[2025-08-28 10:38:54] Erwinos : Thats how pro’s play on every bear or bull div not like pigs
[2025-08-28 10:39:46] Erwinos : Please share your shorts here below 120k i love to track them
[2025-08-28 10:50:53] Erwinos : At 2.30 pm and 3 pm many things can happen mostly tmmrw
[2025-08-28 10:53:15] leBread : patience
[2025-08-28 10:56:54] leBread : doesnt matter anyway, stops in profit, cannot stress every $1 move.
[2025-08-28 11:02:59] Erwinos : leBread: you long r short?
[2025-08-28 11:03:14] Erwinos : From where we go back to 110?
[2025-08-28 11:05:37] Benobi : I we go down there, it looks like it should go back to 111600
[2025-08-28 11:06:33] Benobi : and if it does so, it looks more bearish continuation than bullish to my noobish eyes
[2025-08-28 11:07:33] Benobi : or then it jumps back to 115k, but that sounds much optimistic
[2025-08-28 11:08:37] Benobi : I heard several times here about hopium of a FOMO. The thing is that you don't FOMO when you're already Fearing. And nothing in the economic or geopolitical context is very hyping, reassuring or enthusiastic so far I'd say nowadays
[2025-08-28 11:08:55] Benobi : FOMO woks when you can afford losses
[2025-08-28 11:15:39] bluemaster : where is everyone gone ?
[2025-08-28 11:18:41] bluemaster : https://ac.com.au/upload/sp/hopium.jpg
[2025-08-28 11:19:41] bluemaster : :btc:
[2025-08-28 11:19:52] bluemaster : /liq xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: 72742.7 ```
[2025-08-28 11:19:55] contract details : deaded
[2025-08-28 11:19:57] bluemaster : /liq xbtu25 ``` :bitmex: XBTU25: 1000000 ```
[2025-08-28 11:20:15] contract details : who pops that's a bi too much lev you sure your pacemaker can handle it
[2025-08-28 11:20:17] bluemaster : /liq xbth26 ``` :bitmex: XBTH26: 64843.5 ```
[2025-08-28 11:20:21] leBread : Erwinos: i do not have any pos open, i am waiting for an entry, i might just be sidelined the whole run, which is OK.
[2025-08-28 11:20:22] bluemaster : /liq xbtz25 ``` :bitmex: XBTZ25: 62943 ```
[2025-08-28 11:35:31] PeacenLuv : pumpittup btc lezhohh
[2025-08-28 11:36:10] d877kl : PeacenLuv: not yet
[2025-08-28 11:36:18] marsin123 : leBread: u know the cme gap is going to get hit sooner or later
[2025-08-28 11:37:26] gsehgesheh : ehaehh
[2025-08-28 11:42:01] PeacenLuv : long entry 112893 lezgohh pump
[2025-08-28 11:46:43] blaster33 : 114k possible first and then armageddon :arthur:
[2025-08-28 11:46:44] d877kl : PeacenLuv: long entry 112901
[2025-08-28 11:48:35] leBread : marsin123: can't wait for the cme gap at 9.6k to get hit ser.
[2025-08-28 11:49:23] d877kl : lezzgo pumpit
[2025-08-28 12:11:32] Dr.van_Doom666 : DOOM!!!!
[2025-08-28 12:16:05] 45th_blown_account : never again moon :pepe:
[2025-08-28 12:20:45] afagsarh : hsrd
[2025-08-28 12:31:58] d877kl : did it start?
[2025-08-28 12:32:10] Erwinos : Expect vol. Numbers are in
[2025-08-28 12:32:20] Erwinos : Looks like less unemployment claims
[2025-08-28 12:33:35] Erwinos : Higher GDP so heat eco rate cuts ok
[2025-08-28 12:33:50] Erwinos : This will pump more at NY o
[2025-08-28 12:35:04] Erwinos : Now tmmrw we have pce so that will confirm a pump till 119-120
[2025-08-28 12:35:13] Erwinos : And than a sep low
[2025-08-28 12:35:15] d877kl : look it started, look it ended
[2025-08-28 12:36:20] contract details : it never ends to start
[2025-08-28 12:36:23] contract details : but it always starts to end
[2025-08-28 12:39:35] d877kl : second try?
[2025-08-28 12:40:29] RomanW93 : Erwinos: everybody expecting sep to be a bad month
[2025-08-28 12:40:55] d877kl : RomanW93: i think it going to be great
[2025-08-28 12:41:13] speedwell : Everybody expected August be green
[2025-08-28 12:41:22] RomanW93 : d877kl: its probably going to be the greatest month ever
[2025-08-28 12:41:32] d877kl : RomanW93: thats what im saying
[2025-08-28 12:41:37] RomanW93 : speedwell: august is normally flat right?
[2025-08-28 12:41:58] speedwell : up on the 4yr cycle
[2025-08-28 12:42:21] d877kl : this might be my first pull im in on the lowest price possible lol
[2025-08-28 12:42:37] d877kl : got in at 112800
[2025-08-28 12:43:13] RomanW93 : i am still underwater
[2025-08-28 12:43:46] d877kl : and im out good trade
[2025-08-28 12:43:52] speedwell : NY starting the work day
[2025-08-28 12:47:06] boxxx : feeels bad when this shit dumps?
[2025-08-28 12:58:30] Pilot : Sidelined
[2025-08-28 13:08:38] d877kl : pullrun still on?
[2025-08-28 13:19:36] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated short on `SOLUSD`: Buy 5261 Cont @ 214.78 ($127,943.80) - Bonjour!
[2025-08-28 13:21:27] d877kl : still erects
[2025-08-28 13:21:47] d877kl : its cumming guys
[2025-08-28 13:21:51] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 30000 USD @ 113435.8 - all the 🩳 will be REKT!
[2025-08-28 13:23:02] thankyousomuch : 😄 @d877kl pullrun is coming
[2025-08-28 13:23:44] migozelaaa : 116k today
[2025-08-28 13:24:09] d877kl : migozelaaa: u think so?
[2025-08-28 13:25:50] thankyousomuch : no alt season
[2025-08-28 13:25:53] thankyousomuch : no new ath
[2025-08-28 13:25:58] thankyousomuch : no muh
[2025-08-28 13:26:02] thankyousomuch : only minimum wage
[2025-08-28 13:26:39] thankyousomuch : 100x short till end of year
[2025-08-28 13:26:50] blaster33 : /orders xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: Buy 100,000 USD @ 94154.3 ```
[2025-08-28 13:27:01] marsin123 : blaster33: niceeee
[2025-08-28 13:27:02] thankyousomuch : blaster33: rekt
[2025-08-28 13:27:19] marsin123 : thankyousomuch: show your rekt pos
[2025-08-28 13:27:31] marsin123 : /position ethu25 ``` :bitmex: ETHU25: 119 ETH @ 0.024548 ```
[2025-08-28 13:27:43] thankyousomuch : Mc Donalds on every timeframe
[2025-08-28 13:27:49] thankyousomuch : yearly chart bearish
[2025-08-28 13:28:12] d877kl : im all in either i bet a bag from this next pump or i eat ramen u
[2025-08-28 13:28:23] blaster33 : /position xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: -100,000 USD @ 117802.2807 ```
[2025-08-28 13:28:34] d877kl : /position xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: 10,900 USD @ 113131.1 ```
[2025-08-28 13:28:57] d877kl : blaster33: i feel like puppy now lol
[2025-08-28 13:29:38] thankyousomuch : btc will never go up again
[2025-08-28 13:29:52] blaster33 : im just a bigger puppy but still a puppy lol
[2025-08-28 13:30:16] thankyousomuch : back to 80k
[2025-08-28 13:30:32] ninnk : lmao spx at ath
[2025-08-28 13:30:36] ninnk : what could go wrong :arthur:
[2025-08-28 13:31:15] Jobby : I longed from 113000
[2025-08-28 13:31:32] Jobby : Looks like we are breaking through
[2025-08-28 13:31:43] thankyousomuch : Jobby: i short btc since 9 years
[2025-08-28 13:32:16] Jobby : of course with high leverage so if it goes below 112000 I am liquidated
[2025-08-28 13:32:54] thankyousomuch : i start the day with 100x short
[2025-08-28 13:32:59] thankyousomuch : and end the day with 100x short
[2025-08-28 13:33:21] Gandalf the Grey : Are we rich yet
[2025-08-28 13:34:43] contract details : no
[2025-08-28 13:35:28] thankyousomuch : btc doesnt look healthy
[2025-08-28 13:36:04] thankyousomuch : 80k
[2025-08-28 13:36:10] thankyousomuch : night guys lol
[2025-08-28 13:37:57] Jobby : Extrem good support here so very low risk
[2025-08-28 13:39:18] d877kl : Jobby: low risk for long?
[2025-08-28 13:39:39] Traczii : @admin can you guys at xpl
[2025-08-28 13:41:53] thankyousomuch : Pullrun guys, pullrun 📉
[2025-08-28 13:42:37] d877kl : thankyousomuch: i woudn be too sure
[2025-08-28 13:43:28] thankyousomuch : d877kl: 100 % propability 100x short
[2025-08-28 13:43:43] thankyousomuch : 1 % propability 1 x long
[2025-08-28 13:45:20] contract details : this is what spaniards call a nigge rs picnic
[2025-08-28 13:45:22] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated short on `LINKUSDT`: Buy 40 LINK @ 24.783 ($991.43)
[2025-08-28 13:48:39] thankyousomuch : 364 days a year 100x short
[2025-08-28 13:48:46] thankyousomuch : 1 day 1 x long
[2025-08-28 13:49:14] thankyousomuch : cant oyu see the run :pepeb: 📉
[2025-08-28 13:50:21] Erwinos : Fake or real 112.3 test or not do we believe the upside ? Pigs here slaughtered again
[2025-08-28 13:50:50] Erwinos : Jobby: sorry you longed 113k
[2025-08-28 13:52:14] leBread : Patience and common sense is all that is needed.
[2025-08-28 13:52:38] Erwinos : leBread: you shorted correct? 110 tp?
[2025-08-28 13:53:05] leBread : why should I short? Just because we are in bearish territory, does not make me bearish.
[2025-08-28 13:53:21] Pilot : /liq xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: 94462.7 ```
[2025-08-28 13:53:35] leBread : I do not flip flop my sentiment. Thats the worst thing you can do.
[2025-08-28 13:54:25] leBread : Like I said earlier, I am on the sidelines waiting for a long entry. If I miss the entry, it is OK. I have not changed any sentiment nor plan since then.
[2025-08-28 13:54:56] d877kl : leBread: whats your buy limit?
[2025-08-28 13:55:56] leBread : d877kl: Currently? I have no orders in the book.
[2025-08-28 13:57:32] leBread : Sometimes it the best thing to do, is just to take a step back and analyse. There is always time to get into a profitable trade.
[2025-08-28 13:57:53] Jobby : Erwinos: still confident it will profit me
[2025-08-28 13:58:42] Jobby : You can’t have the perfect entry. Just added to my position at 112600
[2025-08-28 13:59:49] contract details : these niggers scared me
[2025-08-28 13:59:50] contract details : but fear not
[2025-08-28 13:59:52] contract details : it will only moon
[2025-08-28 14:01:01] speedwell : link!!!!!
[2025-08-28 14:04:14] Jobby : Erwinos: already back at 113000
[2025-08-28 14:04:23] Jobby : Like I said
[2025-08-28 14:04:37] Jobby : support is very strong here
[2025-08-28 14:05:23] Jobby : 0% chance it will go below 112000
[2025-08-28 14:05:53] Pilot : /position xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: 500,000 USD @ 113111.9356 ```
[2025-08-28 14:06:07] Pilot : take a breath
[2025-08-28 14:06:19] Pilot : put stops in and low lev and walk away
[2025-08-28 14:07:33] thankyousomuch : air out, ended
[2025-08-28 14:08:56] thankyousomuch : longing top is good for 100x short
[2025-08-28 14:09:25] Pilot : https://youtu.be/DstWZY_eUOc
[2025-08-28 14:11:33] Pilot : will be in menorca later speak after the flight
[2025-08-28 14:11:42] Pilot : peace ✌️
[2025-08-28 14:13:24] Jobby : Pilot: already in profit again
[2025-08-28 14:13:34] Pilot : /position xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: 1,000,000 USD @ 113134.97 ```
[2025-08-28 14:13:41] marsin123 : Market is super strong guys
[2025-08-28 14:13:48] marsin123 : And it will only get stronger
[2025-08-28 14:14:04] marsin123 : At least 10 trillion mcap before years end
[2025-08-28 14:19:07] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 3000 USD @ 112908.1
[2025-08-28 14:23:03] marsin123 : Who knows how to reveal the candles on the chart after you hide it?
[2025-08-28 14:23:27] marsin123 : Can't seem to click on it after hiding it😅
[2025-08-28 14:25:41] leBread : yes thats why we are going down, because its so strong and getting stronger :kek:
[2025-08-28 14:25:54] leBread : Makes complete sense actually.
[2025-08-28 14:26:35] thankyousomuch : top is in 100x short
[2025-08-28 14:26:51] leBread : thankyousomuch: +500 toilets ser
[2025-08-28 14:27:01] thankyousomuch : marsin123: xrp 1 cent end of bullrun
[2025-08-28 14:27:06] thankyousomuch : eth 3 cent
[2025-08-28 14:27:09] thankyousomuch : btc 5 cent
[2025-08-28 14:27:19] leBread : 1 cent? thats too high, maybe 0.000001 cents
[2025-08-28 14:28:53] thankyousomuch : then bear market after
[2025-08-28 14:29:23] RobVacation : Mayday Mayday The pilot catapults.
[2025-08-28 14:29:26] thankyousomuch : öongers are non existent
[2025-08-28 14:30:41] RobVacation : when 97k?
[2025-08-28 14:30:47] "it will be........" : .
[2025-08-28 14:31:08] RobVacation : only serious answers please.
[2025-08-28 14:31:28] RobVacation : "it will be........":
[2025-08-28 14:31:51] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 200 USD @ 112632.8 - enjoy the poor house, genius
[2025-08-28 14:32:03] "it will be........" : RobVacation: facts
[2025-08-28 14:32:22] thankyousomuch : bullrun has started :downrocket:
[2025-08-28 14:32:29] RobVacation : facts is fact no doubt.
[2025-08-28 14:33:19] "it will be........" : what will be.
[2025-08-28 14:33:23] PeacenLuv : https://www.tradingview.com/x/ytjwFon4/ buyin dips long entry 112715
[2025-08-28 14:33:41] PeacenLuv : https://www.tradingview.com/x/LdBC2qbd/ pumpittup lezgohh
[2025-08-28 14:34:04] PeacenLuv : chek that volume
[2025-08-28 14:34:40] PeacenLuv : the mkt meets abov here is volume
[2025-08-28 14:34:52] Pilot : https://youtu.be/XGJEJrWT1qE
[2025-08-28 14:34:59] Pilot : :arthur:
[2025-08-28 14:36:18] PeacenLuv : longstops up 112666
[2025-08-28 14:38:11] PeacenLuv : https://www.tradingview.com/x/x3A0ADjo/ pumpittup fully bully 3hr btc
[2025-08-28 14:38:17] thankyousomuch : look bullrun has started
[2025-08-28 14:38:20] thankyousomuch : look bullrun has ended
[2025-08-28 14:39:20] ninnk : bullran :pepe:
[2025-08-28 14:40:45] PeacenLuv : https://www.tradingview.com/x/POJ0N16l/ 6hr uptrending strengthened tunnel support fully bullish go green up big win express
[2025-08-28 14:42:07] Erwinos : thankyousomuch: thank you
[2025-08-28 14:42:32] Erwinos : Wanna see some short liqs. Today we need to sustain 113.5
[2025-08-28 14:42:54] Pilot : Erwinos: I think 116k tomorrow perhaps if this holds today
[2025-08-28 14:43:05] Pilot : Then bleed weekend into next new monthly :)
[2025-08-28 14:43:09] Erwinos : Jobby: it will if you get over 113.5 today
[2025-08-28 14:43:15] Pilot : Wick down to paint a monthly wick and then up and up and up
[2025-08-28 14:43:25] PeacenLuv : btc up dont argue lol😁😁
[2025-08-28 14:43:41] Erwinos : Jobby: i am with you bro. I have 9 btc on an averaged long
[2025-08-28 14:45:09] PeacenLuv : longstops up 112888
[2025-08-28 14:45:37] PeacenLuv : 9bux arry buck up @Erwinos
[2025-08-28 14:45:41] PeacenLuv : 😁
[2025-08-28 14:46:57] Mr. Axelrod : /position ethusdt ``` :bitmex: ETHUSDT: -2 ETH @ 4625.79 ```
[2025-08-28 14:46:58] Pilot : Erwinos: Same lol
[2025-08-28 14:47:17] Pilot : /position xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: 1,000,000 USD @ 113134.97 ```
[2025-08-28 14:48:19] Mr. Axelrod : Pilot: wow , this is massive
[2025-08-28 14:50:27] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated short on `LTCUSDT`: Buy 20 LTC @ 114.26 ($2,285.66) - 🚀 🚀 🚀
[2025-08-28 14:52:20] gemeo2 : I wouldn't fall in love with a long around here. Lower prices are imminent
[2025-08-28 14:52:38] gemeo2 : Could go 120 though
[2025-08-28 14:53:03] gemeo2 : My cock is massive
[2025-08-28 14:53:22] gemeo2 : :pepe:
[2025-08-28 14:54:32] Gandalf the Grey : calling cap
[2025-08-28 14:55:28] ninnk : Gandalf the Grey: hello sir how are you can you pls post ur me i need it for my collection
[2025-08-28 14:57:07] Jobby : Perfect, nice long
[2025-08-28 14:57:13] MeteorShower : /position xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: 20,000 USD @ 112848.9855 ```
[2025-08-28 14:57:41] Jobby : alway feels so good to be right when I enter a high leverage trade
[2025-08-28 14:57:45] Gandalf the Grey : ninnk: uh oh
[2025-08-28 14:58:10] MeteorShower : Jobby: hahahahaha yeah the opposite gets you liquidated
[2025-08-28 15:00:35] Pilot : my liq level is in here above in chat
[2025-08-28 15:01:10] Jobby : MeteorShower: yes
[2025-08-28 15:01:22] Jobby : but now it’s unlikely
[2025-08-28 15:01:25] Pilot : 94462.7
[2025-08-28 15:01:44] Jobby : because my liquidation is at 112013
[2025-08-28 15:02:06] Pilot : Jobby: do /liq
[2025-08-28 15:02:07] Jobby : And support is really good between 112500-113000
[2025-08-28 15:02:24] Pilot : Yeah support is fine here
[2025-08-28 15:06:23] RomanW93 : Pilot: proper degen hahaha
[2025-08-28 15:08:50] Pilot : RomanW93: lol
[2025-08-28 15:08:58] gemeo2 : I see some degen shet in TB. PA is not showing real opportunity
[2025-08-28 15:09:28] gemeo2 : Patience is everything in trading
[2025-08-28 15:09:42] marsin123 : /pnl ltcusdt ``` :bitmex: LTCUSDT: 32.93 USDT RPNL, 127.85 USDT UPNL ```
[2025-08-28 15:09:45] gemeo2 : My balls are big
[2025-08-28 15:10:01] gemeo2 : My slong is small
[2025-08-28 15:10:15] gemeo2 : /position xbtusdt ``` :bitmex: XBTUSDT: 0.04 XBT @ 113269.3 ```
[2025-08-28 15:10:20] gemeo2 : Kek
[2025-08-28 15:10:28] MeteorShower : gemeo2: you sure they noy just swollen?
[2025-08-28 15:10:28] Pilot : https://youtu.be/eNR4BIjQzlQ
[2025-08-28 15:10:34] gemeo2 : I just buyin alt these days
[2025-08-28 15:10:58] marsin123 : gemeo2: good job
[2025-08-28 15:11:08] marsin123 : Imagine u bought cro at 0.08
[2025-08-28 15:11:19] gemeo2 : MeteorShower: fack had a m8 with that condition, no fkin.joke his balls swelled bigger than tennis balls
[2025-08-28 15:11:28] MeteorShower : i bought at 0.0231
[2025-08-28 15:12:23] gemeo2 : Really i know fack all bout alts but I know they're cheap n gonna rip higher
[2025-08-28 15:12:25] MeteorShower : and back then they did crazy cro aidrops a node was like 10k cro
[2025-08-28 15:12:32] gemeo2 : 100%
[2025-08-28 15:13:04] MeteorShower : gemeo2: ever seen the guy in india who can sit on his ballz cuz they so big ?
[2025-08-28 15:14:55] gemeo2 : MeteorShower: ooof iz no laughing, most likely a hernia, poor fukka
[2025-08-28 15:15:16] gemeo2 : Never been there but seems to be hell on earth
[2025-08-28 15:15:30] gemeo2 : India that is
[2025-08-28 15:15:53] Pilot : https://youtu.be/lwl7hYZ0phE
[2025-08-28 15:17:13] MeteorShower : gemeo2: imagine draging 2 ballz 2 feet in diameter all day
[2025-08-28 15:17:23] Jobby : gemeo2: for trading you have other exchange. Bitmex is for gambling
[2025-08-28 15:17:42] Pilot : Use CME for trading
[2025-08-28 15:18:13] Jobby : I’m selling at 113500
[2025-08-28 15:18:30] gemeo2 : Pilot: what da fook I was just watching?
[2025-08-28 15:18:42] gemeo2 : Jobby: we like gamblin Ser
[2025-08-28 15:18:42] Pilot : gemeo2: haha someone said cro and i guess thats a coin
[2025-08-28 15:18:54] Pilot : but that guy was called cro and used to stream and get shitfaced
[2025-08-28 15:19:06] Pilot : then left the whole scene because he made tons in finance and probably crypto
[2025-08-28 15:19:14] Pilot : he was a full degen loony
[2025-08-28 15:19:17] MeteorShower : Jobby: 113700 is better
[2025-08-28 15:19:24] gemeo2 : Pilot: someone said he began the stream by shittin his pants
[2025-08-28 15:19:33] Pilot : yes
[2025-08-28 15:19:48] Pilot : this man, they say..:
[2025-08-28 15:19:51] Pilot : was me
[2025-08-28 15:20:01] Pilot : 😱
[2025-08-28 15:20:02] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated long on `ETHUSDT`: Sell 4.5000 ETH @ 4541.43 ($20,440.03) - your crypto dreams just got rekt
[2025-08-28 15:20:06] gemeo2 : Jobby: never sell just move up your stop loss
[2025-08-28 15:20:12] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 100 USD @ 112885.6 - should’ve stuck to Monopoly money
[2025-08-28 15:21:52] leBread : it just keeps rejecting from the white squiggly, lol.
[2025-08-28 15:21:59] leBread : expected.
[2025-08-28 15:22:49] PeacenLuv : long entry 112774 longittup lezgohh bitcoin
[2025-08-28 15:24:29] blaster33 : enough correction, time to go back down :arthur:
[2025-08-28 15:24:43] clarknova : :)
[2025-08-28 15:27:10] gemeo2 : It'll go back up, patience
[2025-08-28 15:27:26] gemeo2 : But it won't go so far
[2025-08-28 15:27:42] gemeo2 : Iz weak as a kitten
[2025-08-28 15:27:43] clarknova : Wild guess : 111.9 --> 114.2
[2025-08-28 15:27:46] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated long on `XBTUSDT`: Sell 0.0038 XBT @ 112476 ($427.44) - Game over
[2025-08-28 15:28:50] gemeo2 : MM needs more bulltards for liquidation
[2025-08-28 15:30:04] DMC2 : blaster33: 😓
[2025-08-28 15:32:52] gemeo2 : Am buying more doge shetcon today. Target 1$
[2025-08-28 15:34:18] LickMyBulls : Crypto is so ded :Arthur:
[2025-08-28 15:34:20] DMC2 : gemeo2: trust Elon
[2025-08-28 15:38:41] leBread : the deadest it is indeed
[2025-08-28 15:39:54] BMEXcheers : its over for cryptocels
[2025-08-28 15:39:59] BMEXcheers : buy bmex
[2025-08-28 15:40:14] Pilot : https://youtu.be/qz6oCNLcx4Y
[2025-08-28 15:40:16] BMEXcheers : these sites will be jam packed once people learn of shorting on high lev
[2025-08-28 15:40:18] Pilot : down to earth
[2025-08-28 15:40:32] BMEXcheers : every man and his dog will want bmex
[2025-08-28 15:40:41] BMEXcheers : peak bear market will be the top of bmex
[2025-08-28 15:40:54] BMEXcheers : but that peak wont come until a good 3-4 years have passed
[2025-08-28 15:40:57] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated long on `SOLUSDT`: Sell 0.8000 SOL @ 211.6 ($169.31)
[2025-08-28 15:45:57] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated long on `ETHUSDT`: Sell 0.3800 ETH @ 4509.32 ($1,713.91)
[2025-08-28 15:47:53] PeacenLuv : 😴lol dont feed the btc berraz
[2025-08-28 15:47:56] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated long on `XBTUSDT`: Sell 0.0198 XBT @ 112477.6 ($2,227.35)
[2025-08-28 15:47:56] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated long on `ETHUSDT`: Sell 3.2500 ETH @ 4506.22 ($14,648.40) - No refunds :arthur:
[2025-08-28 15:48:18] PeacenLuv : long entry 112557 rounded up
[2025-08-28 15:48:55] PeacenLuv : KINGKONG DINGDONG BTC UP GO GREEN NORTH TIGHT UP CHEAP
[2025-08-28 15:49:03] PeacenLuv : 😁
[2025-08-28 15:49:37] PeacenLuv : keep funding btc longs its hood advice
[2025-08-28 15:49:58] MeteorShower : i think its time to mute @PeacenLuv ... the retardation is top tier
[2025-08-28 15:50:40] Pilot : hood advice
[2025-08-28 15:50:51] PeacenLuv : buy las vegas real estate usa 10x
[2025-08-28 15:51:16] PeacenLuv : follow the munnee nancy grace gogettem
[2025-08-28 15:51:40] PeacenLuv : 😁😁i feel like shes my sister
[2025-08-28 15:55:04] leBread : MeteorShower: +9000 sir
[2025-08-28 15:55:29] leBread : rektnluv is extremely annoying, bigger fool cannot be found.
[2025-08-28 15:55:54] leBread : It must be a bot, no one can be that degenerated.
[2025-08-28 15:56:40] MeteorShower : he on practice account and keeps throwing random numbers ... who ever made that bot should be executed
[2025-08-28 15:57:04] Pilot : https://youtu.be/xt2UuSKwYmQ
[2025-08-28 15:57:10] Pilot : PeacenLuv: do /pos
[2025-08-28 15:57:23] Pilot : /position xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: 1,000,000 USD @ 113134.97 ```
[2025-08-28 15:57:42] leBread : not only that, he keeps posting tradingview charts with zero updates, ~400 charts a day or maybe even more.
[2025-08-28 15:57:55] Pilot : tunnel snakes rule
[2025-08-28 15:57:57] Pilot : lol
[2025-08-28 15:57:58] leBread : I muted him a few days ago (again) because for some reason mute stopped working for a few days.
[2025-08-28 15:58:10] MeteorShower : leBread: lmao
[2025-08-28 15:58:25] leBread : Its only way to make trollbox readable again.
[2025-08-28 15:58:46] MeteorShower : whatever he post is so fucking cluttered it give headaches