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[2025-01-23 10:04:12] Joeyy132 : Benobi: neither
[2025-01-23 10:04:18] bnqxbt : but anyways, prepare for the worst, because even if we would go way down here with maximum manipulation, we will continue up eventually, avoiding getting hunted is the number one goal
[2025-01-23 10:04:29] Joeyy132 : rsi can be 90 for an extended period of time with price keep going up
[2025-01-23 10:04:37] bnqxbt : Benobi: lower the rsi the more likely a reversal is
[2025-01-23 10:04:39] ZtCedric : 88k next target
[2025-01-23 10:04:42] Joeyy132 : and rsi can be super low and price keep dropping
[2025-01-23 10:04:50] kroleg666 : who needs manipulation when qc will crack this trash without any effort
[2025-01-23 10:04:59] Joeyy132 : so rsi means fk all stand alone
[2025-01-23 10:05:08] bnqxbt : the higher the rsi, the more exhausted bulls are and a reversal is ikely
[2025-01-23 10:05:33] Joeyy132 : bnqxbt: during the run from 15k to 60k the rsi hardly reset at all
[2025-01-23 10:05:57] Joeyy132 : sttraught up only if u followed that rule you would have been expecting reversal every day
[2025-01-23 10:06:03] _fred bloggs : Depends on the timeframe
[2025-01-23 10:06:24] _fred bloggs : Maybe 1 month rsi not changed but 4hour or 1 day yes
[2025-01-23 10:06:29] Joeyy132 : of course but even the higher tf never went low
[2025-01-23 10:07:11] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated long on `ARBUSDT`: Sell 13.1000 ARB @ 0.6912 ($9.05)
[2025-01-23 10:07:22] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated long on `SHIBUSDT`: Sell 480000 SHIB @ 0.000019932 ($9.56)
[2025-01-23 10:09:25] Benobi : przmarket SPy is dumping a bit
[2025-01-23 10:10:17] Benobi : https://blockchainreporter.net/bitcoin-price/
[2025-01-23 10:10:54] Benobi : bnqxbt: I'm not really expecting a 80k -ish retrace, but at least a 90k-ish
[2025-01-23 10:11:58] bnqxbt : Benobi: so btc went down to 90k, and came up to 109k now it has to go back 100% of that swing?
[2025-01-23 10:12:29] bnqxbt : a natural consolidation would be to 0.5fib of the move up, that is at 96
[2025-01-23 10:12:48] bnqxbt : so is the 4h 200ma
[2025-01-23 10:12:56] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated short on `GOATUSDT`: Buy 2090 GOAT @ 0.32511 ($679.46)
[2025-01-23 10:13:04] bnqxbt : and also the breakout line from previous resistance
[2025-01-23 10:13:33] bnqxbt : doesn't HAVE TO go there, but it could and it's a high interest place for orders, longs
[2025-01-23 10:16:38] bnqxbt : I don't really care what happens between here and 140k, ... when 140k comes I'll do more TA, with the new data
[2025-01-23 10:17:11] bnqxbt : you can only chart weather 3 days in advance, but you can have a grasp of 2 weeks ahed, and have a macro guestimate for the coming months
[2025-01-23 10:18:38] bnqxbt : just becaue it rained for 1 week, doesnät mean it has to be sunny next week.
[2025-01-23 10:18:55] Benobi : yes
[2025-01-23 10:18:57] Benobi : sure
[2025-01-23 10:19:39] bnqxbt : all bull runs look different
[2025-01-23 10:20:01] Benobi : but why do you consider we went from 90 to 109 so we should not retrace ? I can say we wentup from 102 to 109, why do we retrace ? In my vision we went up from 67k two months ago to 102 k
[2025-01-23 10:20:09] bnqxbt : because every next move is based on market conditions, not how much they have moved up or down or sideways.
[2025-01-23 10:20:43] bnqxbt : Benobi: 2020 btc went from 10k to 45k
[2025-01-23 10:20:48] bnqxbt : without retrace more or less
[2025-01-23 10:20:50] Benobi : Well, everytime I zoom out on charts, I see that if you ignore the gaps by spiking pumps and dumps cryptos follows a trendly
[2025-01-23 10:21:17] bnqxbt : or arguably from 3.7k to 65k in one line
[2025-01-23 10:21:35] bnqxbt : looking at the magnitude of upside, compared to the "corrections"
[2025-01-23 10:21:41] Benobi : in june there was a retrace at 30k
[2025-01-23 10:22:37] Benobi : and one year later it fell back at 20k to take back it's natural course
[2025-01-23 10:23:12] bnqxbt : if you look at basic btc patterns and fractals, you can see what is possible https://www.tradingview.com/x/WCaeOteK/
[2025-01-23 10:23:18] Benobi : if I try to follos the trend line and curve I see us aroud somewhere like 80k
[2025-01-23 10:23:35] bnqxbt : the retraces are at points non-exsistant
[2025-01-23 10:24:10] bnqxbt : we are with most probability going for the upper line, and if that breaks a similar to the fractal is possible
[2025-01-23 10:24:33] bnqxbt : the upper res is at 130k
[2025-01-23 10:25:15] bnqxbt : megaphone bull flag if you like, with a breakout tp at roughly 220k
[2025-01-23 10:25:36] Benobi : I think I'm too much of an amateur and a groundthinker to understand what you're trying to explain to me. To me it sounds delusionnal that have such a high increase so quickly many people will invest massive money to reach that
[2025-01-23 10:25:56] Benobi : I mean it's ok to believe that on a small crypto where investing is ot much money to risk.
[2025-01-23 10:26:20] bnqxbt : it might sound absurd, if you think we have moved too much already without retrace, but it's not a matter of emotion or opinion. if it can happen, there is not much anyone can do about it. just like watching trump coin surpass most traded companies mcap
[2025-01-23 10:26:58] bnqxbt : Benobi: obviously btc is heavy
[2025-01-23 10:27:11] bnqxbt : but the market factors, and what causes a price to move are the same
[2025-01-23 10:27:23] bnqxbt : more money in btc, than small shetcoins, so it evens out
[2025-01-23 10:27:42] bnqxbt : if the conditions are met... nothing stopping it
[2025-01-23 10:28:09] Benobi : I have the feeling that you approach this with a mathematical poit of view
[2025-01-23 10:28:23] bnqxbt : the weekly and monthly dmi are getting very low, so I am cautious with guessing 200k this march... but... anything can happen
[2025-01-23 10:28:56] bnqxbt : bulls are exhausted on the macro, a retrace IS coming, but... doesn't have to be here, because on the smaller frames we still have space
[2025-01-23 10:28:57] Benobi : but the people investing money are not bots. they can end up in jail or worst for the big players if they do shit. Look at people mocing germany for having sold at 50k. So emotions DO get involved in the investment path
[2025-01-23 10:29:39] bnqxbt : retail and social value is zero in btc, it's only algo trading...
[2025-01-23 10:29:54] HuskySquared : idk
[2025-01-23 10:29:56] HuskySquared : social value is there
[2025-01-23 10:29:56] bnqxbt : if anyhting, mostly exit or entry volume
[2025-01-23 10:30:02] HuskySquared : ever told a girl at a party u own big batches btc?
[2025-01-23 10:30:10] HuskySquared : they like you because they have definite proof that u can eat ass
[2025-01-23 10:30:15] bnqxbt : haha
[2025-01-23 10:30:38] bnqxbt : girls don't genrally know anything about crypto
[2025-01-23 10:30:50] Benobi : well, I still think you are ignoring some basic humans leverage involved in fear and greed.
[2025-01-23 10:30:52] bnqxbt : have followed up with asking them first, how much one btc is worth
[2025-01-23 10:30:57] Benobi : Yes. and that IS a big point.
[2025-01-23 10:31:18] bnqxbt : Benobi: like I said, we small humans with limited funds, are just volume at best
[2025-01-23 10:31:21] bnqxbt : we have no say
[2025-01-23 10:31:31] Benobi : how long do you think a Whale's girl is going to not panic with him having o much potential money but not taking it to buy their house ?
[2025-01-23 10:31:37] Benobi : yesss
[2025-01-23 10:31:58] Benobi : but the guys moving big money also got humans feeling. It's ot their money but they can suffer consequences
[2025-01-23 10:32:20] bnqxbt : whales are now mstr, exchanges, musk, oligarchs like musk, not some small time 100btc dude
[2025-01-23 10:32:24] Benobi : it seems to Saylor is scrutinized
[2025-01-23 10:32:30] Benobi : yes
[2025-01-23 10:32:30] bnqxbt : even 100 btc is nothing
[2025-01-23 10:32:35] bnqxbt : 1000btc
[2025-01-23 10:32:38] bnqxbt : *
[2025-01-23 10:32:41] Benobi : but Musk is human, Saylor too
[2025-01-23 10:32:47] HuskySquared : ehhh
[2025-01-23 10:32:59] Benobi : Saylor at least
[2025-01-23 10:33:03] HuskySquared : :D
[2025-01-23 10:33:13] bnqxbt : musk doesn't even whipe his own ass, he has zero motoric skills, he has no brain, he preys on other to make him rich...
[2025-01-23 10:33:13] HuskySquared : pretty sure the Muskbot glitched out recently
[2025-01-23 10:33:21] HuskySquared : bnqxbt: nah thats dumb
[2025-01-23 10:33:30] HuskySquared : dont be sad just because you disagree with his politics, hes a smart dude
[2025-01-23 10:33:31] kroleg666 : Mush is obviously alien
[2025-01-23 10:33:33] kroleg666 : Musk*
[2025-01-23 10:33:41] bnqxbt : he is not smart... he is arrogant
[2025-01-23 10:33:48] bnqxbt : and really bad at sciense
[2025-01-23 10:33:53] kroleg666 : > [12:33] bnqxbt: musk doesn't even whipe his own ass, he has zero motoric skills, he has no brain, he preys on other to make him rich...
[2025-01-23 10:33:55] Benobi : hey Kroleg, maybe he could help us getting qucker i QC
[2025-01-23 10:33:56] kroleg666 : thats how capitalism works
[2025-01-23 10:33:59] bnqxbt : science
[2025-01-23 10:34:05] Benobi : OR WORSE, maybe he's here to PREVENT us achieving QC
[2025-01-23 10:34:05] HuskySquared : bnqxbt: eh
[2025-01-23 10:34:11] kroleg666 : Benobi: Musk will buy QRL once QC get close enough
[2025-01-23 10:34:11] kroleg666 : dw
[2025-01-23 10:34:14] HuskySquared : its always fun <2m net worth people say 1b+ person are dumb because they are smart
[2025-01-23 10:34:15] HuskySquared : smh
[2025-01-23 10:34:16] kroleg666 : maybe he's already buying secretly
[2025-01-23 10:34:25] kroleg666 : QRL will be new DOGE+ETH+BTC combined
[2025-01-23 10:34:26] HuskySquared : today societty has weird entitlement syndrome of thinking they are smart
[2025-01-23 10:34:33] HuskySquared : even though they are not
[2025-01-23 10:34:40] bnqxbt : he didn't become rich, he was born rich
[2025-01-23 10:35:10] bnqxbt : difference, he bought technology that made him richer, he is nothing but a broken child
[2025-01-23 10:35:21] bnqxbt : now he bought politics
[2025-01-23 10:35:35] HuskySquared : what do you have to show for in life in comparison
[2025-01-23 10:35:41] HuskySquared : genuinely curious
[2025-01-23 10:36:04] HuskySquared : i think you snowflakes make clowns out of yourselves by downtalking people that achieved infinitely more in their tenure in life tbh
[2025-01-23 10:36:23] HuskySquared : people can agree with politics all they want, but this standard run-of-the-mill 'rich guy bad' is stupid af
[2025-01-23 10:36:31] HuskySquared : loser mentality
[2025-01-23 10:36:39] Benobi : Well
[2025-01-23 10:36:41] kroleg666 : HuskySquared: there is a theory that many rich ppl got successful because they have small dicks so they were motivated to achieve something else
[2025-01-23 10:36:46] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated long on `MELANIAUSDT`: Sell 200 MELANIA @ 2.816 ($563.20)
[2025-01-23 10:36:46] kroleg666 : well im not rich
[2025-01-23 10:36:52] Benobi : I'll argue there that it's all about what you look for in life.
[2025-01-23 10:36:57] Benobi : and what you consider worthy.
[2025-01-23 10:36:58] HuskySquared : Benobi: cope
[2025-01-23 10:37:03] bnqxbt : like saying bolt is really smart and a role model because he runs fast, so musk is an awesome person because he has a lot of money he stole from poor people
[2025-01-23 10:37:04] HuskySquared : that's all this here is
[2025-01-23 10:37:11] bnqxbt : because of rigged system
[2025-01-23 10:37:24] HuskySquared : bnqxbt: rigged system because of your failure to success in it?
[2025-01-23 10:37:30] bnqxbt : once you become x rich, wealth comes easy
[2025-01-23 10:37:33] kroleg666 : HuskySquared: rich guys are very bad for humanity, because they just hoard wealth or waste it for personal pleasure, while science is suffocating
[2025-01-23 10:37:34] HuskySquared : lmao
[2025-01-23 10:37:38] kroleg666 : capitalism is dead end
[2025-01-23 10:37:53] bnqxbt : HuskySquared: maybe I don't strive to be the richest person and see other poor
[2025-01-23 10:37:55] HuskySquared : smells like circus in here
[2025-01-23 10:37:56] kroleg666 : imagine if Musk used all that wealth for something useful
[2025-01-23 10:38:01] kroleg666 : well ok at least he has SpaceX
[2025-01-23 10:38:05] kroleg666 : saylor tho? NOTHING
[2025-01-23 10:38:08] kroleg666 : NO USE TO HUMANITY
[2025-01-23 10:38:10] kroleg666 : PARASITE
[2025-01-23 10:38:15] HuskySquared : and you have use to humanity kroleg?
[2025-01-23 10:38:24] kroleg666 : at least I don't steal from humanity
[2025-01-23 10:38:29] HuskySquared : because u suck too much to do it
[2025-01-23 10:38:30] HuskySquared : man
[2025-01-23 10:38:33] kroleg666 : and if I'll become rich I'll do something useful
[2025-01-23 10:38:34] kroleg666 : with it
[2025-01-23 10:38:36] HuskySquared : OFC
[2025-01-23 10:38:38] HuskySquared : hahahaa
[2025-01-23 10:38:46] HuskySquared : talk is easy
[2025-01-23 10:38:58] kroleg666 : what's so hard about investing those billions into science
[2025-01-23 10:39:01] kroleg666 : or space exploration
[2025-01-23 10:39:03] HuskySquared : maybe you try to be good at something and become rich to be in a position to make a decision like it
[2025-01-23 10:39:04] kroleg666 : or cure for cancer
[2025-01-23 10:39:05] kroleg666 : etc
[2025-01-23 10:39:10] HuskySquared : yea what's so hard about it
[2025-01-23 10:39:12] HuskySquared : i dont see you doing it?
[2025-01-23 10:39:13] kroleg666 : they invest only BREADCRUMBS to appear good in mass media
[2025-01-23 10:39:19] kroleg666 : meanwhile just sitting on piles of gold
[2025-01-23 10:39:27] kroleg666 : and hoarding everything else, not letting it be used for anything
[2025-01-23 10:39:44] kroleg666 : HuskySquared: its not hard for those already having billions
[2025-01-23 10:39:48] kroleg666 : but they don't want to
[2025-01-23 10:39:53] kroleg666 : they rather just sit on pile of gold
[2025-01-23 10:39:53] kroleg666 : forever
[2025-01-23 10:39:58] kroleg666 : while humanity is stagnating
[2025-01-23 10:40:00] HuskySquared : and you know this because of all the billionares that you talk to?
[2025-01-23 10:40:12] HuskySquared : do you have any idea how money works? how change works?
[2025-01-23 10:40:29] kroleg666 : when I see things like 'Elon Musk's worth is 9999999999999$' it means he has that much wealth just sitting around doing nothing useful
[2025-01-23 10:40:31] kroleg666 : at best its investments
[2025-01-23 10:40:35] Benobi : Well I've met several very wealthy people
[2025-01-23 10:40:42] HuskySquared : no it means that's the medias narrative of how much his stakes in his companies are valued
[2025-01-23 10:40:45] HuskySquared : he doesnt have this in cash you idiot
[2025-01-23 10:40:49] kroleg666 : > do you have any idea how money works?
[2025-01-23 10:40:50] HuskySquared : nor could he easily get it
[2025-01-23 10:40:52] kroleg666 : I know that capitalism doesnt work
[2025-01-23 10:40:56] kroleg666 : it will doom us all
[2025-01-23 10:40:58] HuskySquared : then u are dumb af
[2025-01-23 10:41:10] kroleg666 : infinite concentration of wealth while it cant do anything useful
[2025-01-23 10:41:22] HuskySquared : like i said u dont understand how capital works
[2025-01-23 10:41:24] Benobi : people who owns castles and such because I organize events in castle. None of them were happy people. Almost. They were greediest, more distrustful and more worried and stressed than people with nothing
[2025-01-23 10:41:28] kroleg666 : capital works for creation of capital
[2025-01-23 10:41:33] kroleg666 : it doesn't help to advance humanity
[2025-01-23 10:41:35] Benobi : boys while we talk btc is falling.
[2025-01-23 10:41:50] HuskySquared : you guys being long makes me worry about my position because the intelligence level is very low in here
[2025-01-23 10:41:55] HuskySquared : wtf
[2025-01-23 10:42:05] kroleg666 : HuskySquared: if Zerg invaded Earth in 2050 do you think we will have any chance? HELL NO, we will be busy stealing money from each other and spending on luxury cars and iphones
[2025-01-23 10:42:12] kroleg666 : Zerg is example of efficient lifeform
[2025-01-23 10:42:18] kroleg666 : no bitcoin, no bullshit
[2025-01-23 10:42:20] HuskySquared : kroleg666: bro not even the protoss had chance vs zerg
[2025-01-23 10:42:21] kroleg666 : only what is required to advance
[2025-01-23 10:42:28] HuskySquared : wtf
[2025-01-23 10:42:45] kroleg666 : protoss would laugh their asses off if they saw what we're doing
[2025-01-23 10:42:54] kroleg666 : even tho they can't laugh
[2025-01-23 10:42:56] kroleg666 : but they'll learn
[2025-01-23 10:43:02] Benobi : X )
[2025-01-23 10:43:03] kroleg666 : its that ridiculous
[2025-01-23 10:43:32] kroleg666 : HuskySquared: tell me how much percentage of Earth wealth was spent on space defences in last century
[2025-01-23 10:43:43] kroleg666 : is it at least 1%? KEEP DREAMING
[2025-01-23 10:43:44] kroleg666 : its fucking 0
[2025-01-23 10:44:00] HuskySquared : do you know why that is though?
[2025-01-23 10:44:01] kroleg666 : they bullshit us with 'aliens dont exist' bullshit so that nobody would suspect
[2025-01-23 10:44:07] kroleg666 : because its not profitable
[2025-01-23 10:44:08] HuskySquared : thats not due to the billionares my friend
[2025-01-23 10:44:11] kroleg666 : capitalism is only about doing what is profitable
[2025-01-23 10:44:13] HuskySquared : thats due to your elected politicans
[2025-01-23 10:44:19] HuskySquared : :)
[2025-01-23 10:44:23] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated long on `XBTUSDT`: Sell 0.3948 XBT @ 101316.5 ($39,985.71)
[2025-01-23 10:44:23] kroleg666 : politicians are elected by their capitals
[2025-01-23 10:44:28] kroleg666 : again, money does everything
[2025-01-23 10:44:33] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 15000 USD @ 101267.4
[2025-01-23 10:44:37] kroleg666 : money promotes the most greedy mfs who only want to make more money
[2025-01-23 10:45:23] kroleg666 : who even needs Zerg, random asteroid will wipe us out
[2025-01-23 10:45:38] kroleg666 : because space exploration and spreading to at least one other planet/star IS NOT PROFITABLE
[2025-01-23 10:45:40] kroleg666 : so nobody does it
[2025-01-23 10:45:43] bnqxbt : the problem with super rich people is, the fact they can change the rules by paying. so anyone playing by the rules they played while succeeding to become rich, has now diminished greatly. and the openings are getting fewer and fewer. it's in their best interest to not think about anyone else. same like a 30yo in the 70s saying to someone 30yo in 2025 that , why don't you just buy a house. and pay it off.
[2025-01-23 10:45:53] kroleg666 : in capitalism all power belongs to those who won't use this power for good of humanity
[2025-01-23 10:46:00] bnqxbt : there is a nuance and it's not a tiny one
[2025-01-23 10:46:31] kroleg666 : bnqxbt: our best hope is China taking over and turning humanity into efficient hivemind using telepathy via 5G and Neuralink
[2025-01-23 10:46:37] kroleg666 : then humanity will continue progress
[2025-01-23 10:46:38] bnqxbt : when the game rules keep changing, you can't win
[2025-01-23 10:46:40] kroleg666 : now its at dead end
[2025-01-23 10:47:02] kroleg666 : Earth is just waiting to be crushed by anyone or anything from outside
[2025-01-23 10:47:04] kroleg666 : no fucks given
[2025-01-23 10:47:06] bnqxbt : trying to survive in a game of poker, with low stack, try it and you'll understnd
[2025-01-23 10:47:14] HuskySquared : bnqxbt: i come from $0 and worked my ass off to get to $100m+, you guys have no idea what you talk about
[2025-01-23 10:47:29] kroleg666 : worked on 8/5 job for sure
[2025-01-23 10:47:31] kroleg666 : yeah totally
[2025-01-23 10:47:32] HuskySquared : stop blaming people for making the best they can out of the world we live in
[2025-01-23 10:47:50] bnqxbt : when you start bribing people I will judge you
[2025-01-23 10:47:56] kroleg666 : in capitalism the only way to get decent money is by tricking others or getting lucky
[2025-01-23 10:48:02] kroleg666 : honest work gives scraps\
[2025-01-23 10:48:04] HuskySquared : kroleg666: fucking stupid man lmao
[2025-01-23 10:48:04] bnqxbt : not for you making 100m
[2025-01-23 10:48:12] kroleg666 : so no wonder fewer and fewer want to do honest work
[2025-01-23 10:48:14] bnqxbt : that is great
[2025-01-23 10:48:21] HuskySquared : bnqxbt: just look at kroleg though
[2025-01-23 10:48:25] HuskySquared : its impossible for him even to comprehend that yes
[2025-01-23 10:48:27] bnqxbt : I can't he is muted
[2025-01-23 10:48:30] HuskySquared : ah
[2025-01-23 10:48:35] HuskySquared : fair point, let me mute him too
[2025-01-23 10:48:35] bnqxbt : I didn't know you talked with him
[2025-01-23 10:48:39] kroleg666 : truth is too painful for many here
[2025-01-23 10:48:46] HuskySquared : bnqxbt: this explains this now
[2025-01-23 10:48:50] HuskySquared : there is a lot of kroleg text here
[2025-01-23 10:48:50] kroleg666 : imagine being scared of truth that much
[2025-01-23 10:49:00] bnqxbt : yeah, I was getting a little confused mid way
[2025-01-23 10:49:02] HuskySquared : i thought u saw it too
[2025-01-23 10:49:03] HuskySquared : :arthur:
[2025-01-23 10:49:22] bnqxbt : :arthur: tb moments
[2025-01-23 10:49:32] kroleg666 : HuskySquared: I despise ideas of capitalism and only trying to get enough money to free up some time by not having to work, thats it
[2025-01-23 10:49:36] kroleg666 : fuck being rich
[2025-01-23 10:49:41] HuskySquared : somehow the mute button isnt working wtf
[2025-01-23 10:49:58] pencilsol : HuskySquared: refresh
[2025-01-23 10:50:00] pencilsol : it will work
[2025-01-23 10:50:03] kroleg666 : lol have fun ignoring the truth
[2025-01-23 10:50:04] HuskySquared : [10:49] kroleg666: MutedHuskySquared: I despise ideas of capitalism and only trying to get enough money to free up some time by not having to work, thats it gently caress being rich
[2025-01-23 10:50:06] bnqxbt : HuskySquared: it's the most inconsistent broken code I've ever witnessed.
[2025-01-23 10:50:07] HuskySquared : :arthur:
[2025-01-23 10:50:20] bnqxbt : somehow it still runs...
[2025-01-23 10:50:44] pencilsol : bnqxbt: how are u feelin about today btw?
[2025-01-23 10:50:44] bnqxbt : but, ... and people get unmuted at times, and then in another tab they are visible and other not
[2025-01-23 10:51:02] pencilsol : more downwards trend or we gonna wick up?
[2025-01-23 10:51:02] HuskySquared : bnqxbt: nah but so i think one shouldn't just downplay achievements by some of those actors
[2025-01-23 10:51:07] HuskySquared : like people can agree/disagree with musk all they want
[2025-01-23 10:51:12] HuskySquared : and say he was rich or had money before
[2025-01-23 10:51:14] HuskySquared : but end of the day
[2025-01-23 10:51:15] bnqxbt : pencilsol: pretty much like yesterday, slow grind... this is really being absorbed and held here
[2025-01-23 10:51:22] HuskySquared : he was still driving force behind many things
[2025-01-23 10:51:30] HuskySquared : and that deserves some credit because a lot of other people did not do that
[2025-01-23 10:51:30] pencilsol : bnqxbt: Gotcha, thanks for insight
[2025-01-23 10:51:32] kroleg666 : Mush is the exception, he funds SpaceX and Neuralink
[2025-01-23 10:51:35] kroleg666 : Musk*
[2025-01-23 10:51:39] kroleg666 : these are useful for humanity
[2025-01-23 10:51:42] HuskySquared : and a lot of other people could have too
[2025-01-23 10:51:44] kroleg666 : all other 99% billionaires are pure parasites
[2025-01-23 10:52:14] bnqxbt : HuskySquared: I mean, yes props for musk for the run. same bezos, gates... but nobody should ever be able to reach 1B, it breaks the game
[2025-01-23 10:52:25] kroleg666 : HuskySquared: if every rich mf was like Elon Musk then capitalism would work
[2025-01-23 10:52:31] kroleg666 : thats how it was described on paper
[2025-01-23 10:52:35] HuskySquared : bnqxbt: i dont think its so much about not reaching 1B
[2025-01-23 10:52:38] bnqxbt : he is almost at 1T
[2025-01-23 10:52:41] HuskySquared : we do not have a perfect society/government/money system
[2025-01-23 10:52:43] kroleg666 : in reality 99% of them are greedy parasites that care only about themselves
[2025-01-23 10:52:47] HuskySquared : capitalism is the best one we have so far
[2025-01-23 10:52:52] kroleg666 : for now
[2025-01-23 10:52:52] HuskySquared : with the technology we have
[2025-01-23 10:52:55] bnqxbt : what you can do with that money is too much
[2025-01-23 10:52:55] HuskySquared : over time this changes
[2025-01-23 10:53:04] bnqxbt : no point in playing agame where someone has 1T
[2025-01-23 10:53:08] HuskySquared : as technology advances new governance models will happen
[2025-01-23 10:53:17] HuskySquared : but shouldnt blame the player, blame the game
[2025-01-23 10:53:19] kroleg666 : again, 5G and Neuralink advancements will allow for telepathic hivemind where entire humanity will become a single organism, then money and personal gains will lose meaning
[2025-01-23 10:53:23] kroleg666 : and we will work together finally
[2025-01-23 10:53:29] kroleg666 : but only China coul;d make it true
[2025-01-23 10:53:30] Benobi : +
[2025-01-23 10:53:30] Benobi : 99+9999+
[2025-01-23 10:53:30] Benobi : +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
[2025-01-23 10:53:33] HuskySquared : but it is less a political issue than it is a technological issue
[2025-01-23 10:53:33] Benobi : +9+6
[2025-01-23 10:53:33] kroleg666 : the west is doomed
[2025-01-23 10:53:34] Benobi : 6
[2025-01-23 10:53:40] pencilsol : Benobi: you good bro?
[2025-01-23 10:53:45] HuskySquared : democratic systems have failed already too
[2025-01-23 10:53:58] bnqxbt : musk and trump are very a like
[2025-01-23 10:54:02] HuskySquared : we just dont have any better model for today state of human intelligence
[2025-01-23 10:54:02] kroleg666 : HuskySquared: the west (mostly US and EU) will use technology for more consumption and profits
[2025-01-23 10:54:08] kroleg666 : China will use it for progress
[2025-01-23 10:54:19] HuskySquared : its the one that arguably led to the most prosperity for the longest amount of time thus far
[2025-01-23 10:54:21] bnqxbt : trump a failed entrepeneur, but a showman and pr stunt. musk is both but also succeeded in business...
[2025-01-23 10:54:23] HuskySquared : until we figure out better way
[2025-01-23 10:54:31] kroleg666 : HuskySquared: as I said, telepathic hivemind
[2025-01-23 10:54:39] HuskySquared : is he a failed entrepeneur? like it depends how we define that no
[2025-01-23 10:54:45] HuskySquared : nothing wrong with failing
[2025-01-23 10:54:53] HuskySquared : but i think people too easily downplay achievements
[2025-01-23 10:55:03] HuskySquared : just because it helps the narrative against it
[2025-01-23 10:55:12] HuskySquared : i see smart people fail all the time
[2025-01-23 10:55:22] HuskySquared : i see successful people fail all the time
[2025-01-23 10:55:26] kroleg666 : imagine muting the opponent and then reply
[2025-01-23 10:55:31] kroleg666 : such a pussy
[2025-01-23 10:55:35] bnqxbt : HuskySquared: well... like if you rob a bank and don't get caught, maybe you are somone great?
[2025-01-23 10:55:47] bnqxbt : it depends how we see it I guess
[2025-01-23 10:55:54] HuskySquared : i think the comparison is lagging
[2025-01-23 10:56:04] HuskySquared : it isn't that black/white
[2025-01-23 10:56:21] bnqxbt : well he went bancrupt, and took deutche bank with him, and sold his name tm, because he couldn't pay the debt...
[2025-01-23 10:56:27] HuskySquared : if you do big business and navigate financial systems to do big business
[2025-01-23 10:56:34] bnqxbt : so he is a trainwreck
[2025-01-23 10:56:38] HuskySquared : is it really you fucking up, or the bank fucking up due to lack of diligence/etc?
[2025-01-23 10:56:49] HuskySquared : is it the system failing maybe due to lack of checks for those participants?
[2025-01-23 10:56:50] bnqxbt : the memecoin is just him
[2025-01-23 10:56:55] bnqxbt : what he does
[2025-01-23 10:56:56] HuskySquared : there is many ways you can look at it
[2025-01-23 10:57:17] HuskySquared : if deutsche got so exposed to him that he took them down with him (which, he didnt... deutsche is around)
[2025-01-23 10:57:21] bnqxbt : many would advice him to not do it... like build buildings and not pay the contractors
[2025-01-23 10:57:23] HuskySquared : then its arguably a failure in deutsche
[2025-01-23 10:57:30] HuskySquared : yea but i mean
[2025-01-23 10:57:39] HuskySquared : how do people imagine those things actually get built you know?
[2025-01-23 10:57:44] HuskySquared : how do people float this amount of cash?
[2025-01-23 10:57:46] HuskySquared : there is always risk
[2025-01-23 10:57:55] HuskySquared : its how those models work
[2025-01-23 10:58:03] HuskySquared : if you work big numbers like that it gets all a bit less black/whitye
[2025-01-23 10:58:13] bnqxbt : and as long as he gets away from every criminal thing, he might be seen as unstoppable and great.. but I think... he could probably kill someone and still blamed the glare of a sun, and win
[2025-01-23 10:58:15] HuskySquared : its not just about profitability, also cash flows, etc
[2025-01-23 10:58:27] HuskySquared : a lot of things can happen
[2025-01-23 10:58:31] HuskySquared : in all industries
[2025-01-23 10:58:46] HuskySquared : i know this because i do work in industries where i float huge amounts of cash
[2025-01-23 10:58:53] HuskySquared : its a risk thing
[2025-01-23 10:58:55] bnqxbt : trump at this point has such a safety net under him, wealth never seen before
[2025-01-23 10:59:14] bnqxbt : they can rewrite history,
[2025-01-23 10:59:23] bnqxbt : just go and say, there was never a ww2
[2025-01-23 10:59:26] bnqxbt : and then it would be so
[2025-01-23 10:59:28] HuskySquared : eh
[2025-01-23 10:59:33] bnqxbt : with time ofc
[2025-01-23 10:59:44] HuskySquared : i dont think that's the big danger
[2025-01-23 10:59:47] HuskySquared : its a symptom
[2025-01-23 10:59:51] bnqxbt : no but it's the scope
[2025-01-23 10:59:53] HuskySquared : the symptom is due to people unhappy
[2025-01-23 10:59:59] HuskySquared : why are people unhappy? because democratic systems fail
[2025-01-23 11:00:04] HuskySquared : which in turn leads to bad policies
[2025-01-23 11:00:06] bnqxbt : there is a reson why hitler germany happened
[2025-01-23 11:00:10] HuskySquared : which in turn leads to poverty and suffering
[2025-01-23 11:00:18] HuskySquared : democratic systems fail in capitalism long term always
[2025-01-23 11:00:21] HuskySquared : you know why?
[2025-01-23 11:00:26] bnqxbt : put the people in the bin, shuffle it, and give them only one solution
[2025-01-23 11:00:50] bnqxbt : and with money, and greed, things like that happen, napoleon
[2025-01-23 11:01:09] bnqxbt : we just repeat the same song... different color
[2025-01-23 11:01:11] HuskySquared : the issue is political class in developed western countries is too connected from reality
[2025-01-23 11:01:16] HuskySquared : disconnected*
[2025-01-23 11:01:26] HuskySquared : and too much focussed on ideology
[2025-01-23 11:01:30] HuskySquared : not feasibility
[2025-01-23 11:01:35] HuskySquared : this is why things go to shit
[2025-01-23 11:01:46] HuskySquared : but its inevitable this way in the current mix of economic and governance system
[2025-01-23 11:01:47] bnqxbt : HuskySquared: just watching the tiktok hearing... seriously, those people are congress people
[2025-01-23 11:01:50] HuskySquared : if you look at long time frame
[2025-01-23 11:02:00] HuskySquared : bnqxbt: tiktok hearing was dumb af
[2025-01-23 11:02:12] HuskySquared : all just braindead people
[2025-01-23 11:02:15] bnqxbt : dumb doesn't even make a dent on how stupid it was
[2025-01-23 11:02:19] HuskySquared : yup
[2025-01-23 11:02:28] bnqxbt : ...
[2025-01-23 11:02:30] HuskySquared : its like the anti china people its so ridiculous
[2025-01-23 11:02:37] HuskySquared : i am in china for a long long time now
[2025-01-23 11:02:45] bnqxbt : I love the one comment I saw
[2025-01-23 11:02:51] HuskySquared : people just have no idea what they are talking about
[2025-01-23 11:03:00] HuskySquared : to a point where
[2025-01-23 11:03:02] Luke Short : Winnie the Pooh
[2025-01-23 11:03:04] HuskySquared : its either stupidity or malice
[2025-01-23 11:03:08] bnqxbt : "we are not leaving this hearing until someone is Chinese"
[2025-01-23 11:03:12] HuskySquared : lmao
[2025-01-23 11:03:22] Luke Short : just checkin, sry
[2025-01-23 11:04:35] bnqxbt : HuskySquared: I mean, those congress people are very high up in determening what happens and ripples out to the world
[2025-01-23 11:04:40] Z75 : Who here from Palestine? 💙
[2025-01-23 11:04:50] HuskySquared : Z75: kroleg is palestine
[2025-01-23 11:04:57] HuskySquared : you can chat wit hhim
[2025-01-23 11:05:08] HuskySquared : bnqxbt: yea its quite disturbing tbh
[2025-01-23 11:05:17] HuskySquared : its why i think
[2025-01-23 11:05:24] HuskySquared : sure billionare tech people are not best case either
[2025-01-23 11:05:25] HuskySquared : but yes
[2025-01-23 11:05:31] HuskySquared : they are infinitely better than the congress people
[2025-01-23 11:05:32] HuskySquared : lmao
[2025-01-23 11:05:40] HuskySquared : 10 out of 10 times
[2025-01-23 11:06:02] bnqxbt : HuskySquared: how long until a neuralink is mandatory in the us
[2025-01-23 11:06:08] bnqxbt : haha
[2025-01-23 11:06:11] HuskySquared : lol
[2025-01-23 11:06:30] bnqxbt : owning a tesla will get you -20% tax cut
[2025-01-23 11:06:42] bnqxbt : singularity here we come
[2025-01-23 11:07:25] AntiSteveS : palastine would look nice as a glass ornament in the east...
[2025-01-23 11:08:41] bnqxbt : HuskySquared: if history teaches anything, I think musks days are counted... anything that goes that high, must come down
[2025-01-23 11:08:52] clarknova : Lol doge. Thanks Nazi-Elon XD
[2025-01-23 11:09:16] bnqxbt : clarknova: what is is with doge?
[2025-01-23 11:09:24] bnqxbt : it's not pumping=?
[2025-01-23 11:09:32] clarknova : bnqxbt: doge is elon's puppy
[2025-01-23 11:10:32] clarknova : bnqxbt: I'm still confident it will pump like crazy when Elon will announce payments through X.
[2025-01-23 11:11:07] bnqxbt : everyone will have left x by then
[2025-01-23 11:11:24] bnqxbt : except the 1 trillion bots
[2025-01-23 11:13:02] bnqxbt : every post with 1million likes are probably 1-10% real people
[2025-01-23 11:13:11] clarknova : bnqxbt: not gonna happen
[2025-01-23 11:13:19] bnqxbt : it's already happening
[2025-01-23 11:13:29] bnqxbt : people starting to see it's only ai bots everywhere
[2025-01-23 11:13:30] clarknova : bnqxbt: yeah like 10 times before
[2025-01-23 11:13:51] clarknova : bnqxbt: there is nothing like X
[2025-01-23 11:14:02] bnqxbt : there was nothing like myspace
[2025-01-23 11:14:13] bnqxbt : it came down within a year
[2025-01-23 11:14:32] bnqxbt : new is always better, right
[2025-01-23 11:14:44] clarknova : bnqxbt: Let see :)
[2025-01-23 11:14:58] bnqxbt : clarknova: you use x?
[2025-01-23 11:15:06] clarknova : bnqxbt: Of course
[2025-01-23 11:16:20] clarknova : bnqxbt: https://x.com/Kanthan2030/status/1882101414929084424
[2025-01-23 11:16:29] clarknova : bnqxbt: incoming 1B new users
[2025-01-23 11:16:56] pencilsol : 1billion... of bots?
[2025-01-23 11:17:07] clarknova : pencilsol: kind of
[2025-01-23 11:17:12] bnqxbt : soon there will be 170B and 5B new incoming...
[2025-01-23 11:17:12] clarknova : pencilsol: chineses
[2025-01-23 11:17:24] pencilsol : china is infamous for the tiktok bot infestation. have you seen the botting farm they made for tiktok lmao
[2025-01-23 11:17:29] pencilsol : it's crazy af
[2025-01-23 11:17:43] clarknova : pencilsol: I know :) bots and trolls
[2025-01-23 11:17:52] pencilsol : thousands of phones connected in a grid, all connected to LLM model, designed to chat and increase engagement
[2025-01-23 11:17:54] pencilsol : damn
[2025-01-23 11:18:05] bnqxbt : the west is supposed to hate the chinese, because they try to do what the us is doing
[2025-01-23 11:18:15] clarknova : bnqxbt: true
[2025-01-23 11:18:46] bnqxbt : and yesh, let's just randomly yell communism somewhere
[2025-01-23 11:19:03] bnqxbt : even tho china is very bad... for their people...
[2025-01-23 11:19:21] bnqxbt : anything outside the borders of the US is communism, or satanism
[2025-01-23 11:21:28] Dessos : >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVLJiKLzyko https://www.tradingview.com/x/p9P84CwL/
[2025-01-23 11:25:29] clarknova : The world is getting funnier every day
[2025-01-23 11:35:22] bnqxbt : this is as weird as yesterday, rsi still pointing down... but let's see if we get a nice break above 102800
[2025-01-23 11:40:06] HuskySquared : clarknova: dude
[2025-01-23 11:40:09] HuskySquared : is the shanghai thing for real?
[2025-01-23 11:40:16] bluemaster : imagine trying to trade Bitcoin with RSI for last 13 years 😜,some people just don;t get it !
[2025-01-23 11:40:54] RobVacation : :pepe:
[2025-01-23 11:41:10] RobVacation : :me:
[2025-01-23 11:41:30] RobVacation : sad indeed
[2025-01-23 11:41:39] Symphoenix : 12h47 UTC will be memorable !
[2025-01-23 11:41:48] kchaitanya : Symphoenix: :doge:
[2025-01-23 11:44:46] RobVacation : these bots on bitmex oversold N overbought should be called semi-automatic.
[2025-01-23 11:46:02] bluemaster : RobVacation: I love this dumb bots
[2025-01-23 11:46:27] RobVacation : yeah rsi bots.lol @bluemaster
[2025-01-23 11:47:03] Benobi : Symphoeix don't come at last minute please X')
[2025-01-23 11:47:08] RobVacation : when alladin access?
[2025-01-23 11:47:20] bluemaster : kids you don;t need massive position and high leverage to make nice profit.
[2025-01-23 11:47:26] bluemaster : /position xbth25 ``` :bitmex: XBTH25: 20,100 USD @ 103657.0197 ```
[2025-01-23 11:47:28] Benobi : Ah, it's in one hour my bad
[2025-01-23 11:47:30] bluemaster : /pnl xbth25 ``` :bitmex: XBTH25: 1.6216 XBT RPNL, 0.0006 XBT UPNL ```
[2025-01-23 11:47:38] bluemaster : /position xbtm25 ``` :bitmex: XBTM25: 65,600 USD @ 105805.5506 ```
[2025-01-23 11:47:43] bluemaster : /pnl xbtm25 ``` :bitmex: XBTM25: 1.1807 XBT RPNL, 0.0047 XBT UPNL ```
[2025-01-23 11:47:49] bluemaster : /position xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: 60,100 USD @ 102044.9814 ```
[2025-01-23 11:47:59] bluemaster : you just need patience
[2025-01-23 11:48:11] Benobi : could you please bluemaster how works the "25" stuff ?
[2025-01-23 11:48:19] Benobi : does it works like any other perpetual
[2025-01-23 11:49:47] bluemaster : Benobi: simple no fees to hold for 8 months and you can jump out any time
[2025-01-23 11:50:51] Benobi : so you are entenring and leaving like any othe rasset. And you try to predict where the prce will be in... a month, an hour ?
[2025-01-23 11:51:17] bluemaster : perpetual 0.0100 % fees every 8 hours = 10.95 % per year fee
[2025-01-23 11:51:46] bluemaster : when I was young we had to learn Mathematics
[2025-01-23 11:51:46] Benobi : yeah well I'm mostly bear so I almost never pay fees, but anyway
[2025-01-23 11:52:09] kchaitanya : blue hates berass @Benobi
[2025-01-23 11:52:24] Benobi : I'm not a bear globally
[2025-01-23 11:52:35] kchaitanya : Benobi: :doge:
[2025-01-23 11:52:38] bluemaster : kchaitanya: naah ,I love beras they feeding me
[2025-01-23 11:52:51] kchaitanya : bluemaster: hahahaha :pepe:
[2025-01-23 11:52:53] Benobi : I'm sure bullish on cryptos, but I believe in an healthier progression.
[2025-01-23 11:53:05] Benobi : which implies retracement so I expect one to happen.
[2025-01-23 11:53:11] bluemaster : BTC Performance 5 Day 1.66% 1 Month 6.83% 3 Month 49.50% YTD 9.16% 1 Year 156.44%
[2025-01-23 11:53:25] bluemaster : and beras think they don;t pay fees 😁
[2025-01-23 11:53:39] bluemaster : https://www.marketwatch.com/investing/cryptocurrency/btcusd
[2025-01-23 11:53:48] kchaitanya : bluemaster: beras dont pay fee rather prefer to get liq'd
[2025-01-23 11:54:18] bluemaster : and miss life changing profits but who need that anyway
[2025-01-23 11:54:33] kchaitanya : bluemaster: :arthur:
[2025-01-23 11:54:44] Benobi : well the two times I got rekt I was long.
[2025-01-23 11:55:06] kchaitanya : Benobi: that could only be because you were over leveraged
[2025-01-23 11:55:08] Benobi : big sudden fall, like what happen around Xmas this year
[2025-01-23 11:55:33] kchaitanya : Benobi: i was also long durin g that time but i didnt get liq'd
[2025-01-23 11:55:36] Benobi : well we wet 109k to 93k
[2025-01-23 11:55:41] kchaitanya : never use high leverage
[2025-01-23 11:56:09] kchaitanya : Benobi: isnt that very common for BTC or any other token for a massive fall?
[2025-01-23 11:56:17] Benobi : Yes sure, but on daily trading you don't expect a fall of 15k in two days
[2025-01-23 11:56:18] kchaitanya : this is what kids need to learn first
[2025-01-23 11:56:25] Benobi : yes, FALLS
[2025-01-23 11:56:33] Benobi : not massive sudden Pumps
[2025-01-23 11:56:46] Benobi : hence why I stay on a bear guard stance ;)
[2025-01-23 11:56:50] kchaitanya : Benobi: well when you expected the unexpected you will never fail
[2025-01-23 11:56:59] bluemaster : Benobi: no one single Bearish trader is profitable and survived this last 13 years and they been much more experienced and capitalized form anyone here
[2025-01-23 11:57:05] Benobi : now I don't use more than x3 leverage
[2025-01-23 11:57:41] kchaitanya : bluemaster: blue @Benobi has actually fallen in trap of some clowns on TB and he picked up financial advice as a result got liq'd
[2025-01-23 11:57:54] kchaitanya : Benobi: thats it my friend
[2025-01-23 11:58:10] Benobi : Well the thing is when you're a bear you always got some time to reduce risk, to see the pump being going and hope for a retrace at some point if you're patient enough. for bulls, somethig unexpected and you won't always recover.
[2025-01-23 11:58:14] Benobi : even being patient.
[2025-01-23 11:58:17] bluemaster : Benobi: I shit my self on x 0.5
[2025-01-23 11:58:30] Benobi : Well, that's true Kchaitanya but It's not about my case
[2025-01-23 11:58:35] Benobi : I try to understand it.