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[2024-11-18 17:19:12] Crypto_Cowboy_1982 : 🗾
[2024-11-18 17:20:07] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated short on `XBTUSDT`: Buy 0.0818 XBT @ 91866.4 ($7,516.04)
[2024-11-18 17:21:14] Joeyy132 : Crypto_Cowboy_1982: what price do you estimate the top then?
[2024-11-18 17:21:30] clarknova : volume
[2024-11-18 17:21:35] crypto_kenevel : 95 tonight
[2024-11-18 17:22:54] PeacenLuv : 😅phukeen lynch on wallztreet amerikantz
[2024-11-18 17:23:02] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated short on `XRPUSDT`: Buy 10 XRP @ 1.1516 ($11.51)
[2024-11-18 17:32:01] Getr!ch : Afther this dump i will be happy ,
[2024-11-18 17:32:47] bmagic : imagine solana performing better than my btc trade
[2024-11-18 17:32:52] bmagic : damn what has the world come to
[2024-11-18 17:33:14] tesst : Are you short on btc?
[2024-11-18 17:33:19] bmagic : yeah
[2024-11-18 17:33:41] tesst : Why
[2024-11-18 17:33:47] tesst : am I always stupid
[2024-11-18 17:33:48] bmagic : because its selling
[2024-11-18 17:33:54] Joeyy132 : You guys realise that if we go 95k we go 140k instantly right?
[2024-11-18 17:33:55] tesst : i do always the opposite
[2024-11-18 17:33:58] Joeyy132 : crazy
[2024-11-18 17:34:17] tesst : I shluld stop listening to my brain
[2024-11-18 17:34:29] bmagic : buying bitcoin is good
[2024-11-18 17:34:33] bmagic : leveraging bitcoin - meh
[2024-11-18 17:35:47] The_Reaper : ETF bimbo's should stop buying
[2024-11-18 17:35:53] The_Reaper : this shit is going to trumps HELLHOLE
[2024-11-18 17:41:56] marsin123 : Crypto_Cowboy_1982: it will tease $99,9k and go down this year make a correction let people believe we have to wait till next cycle for + $100k then in 2025 it'll reach somewhere near $200k
[2024-11-18 17:45:02] I Love BitMEX : Rekt
[2024-11-18 17:45:53] sniper : rekt
[2024-11-18 17:46:07] bmagic : /position xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: -16,000 USD @ 91649.7878 ```
[2024-11-18 17:46:09] bmagic : /position solusd ``` :bitmex: SOLUSD: -200 Cont @ 241.16 ```
[2024-11-18 17:46:12] bmagic : always surviving
[2024-11-18 17:46:15] bmagic : soon to be rekt
[2024-11-18 17:48:13] I Love BitMEX : 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 2,000,000,000 #USDT (2,001,341,750 USD) burned at Tether Treasury Details
[2024-11-18 17:48:19] I Love BitMEX : Guess who got rug pulled...
[2024-11-18 17:48:24] I Love BitMEX : **YOU**
[2024-11-18 17:48:25] DangerandPlay : /position xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: -43,400 USD @ 92199.9 ```
[2024-11-18 17:48:40] DangerandPlay : thinking of closing around here
[2024-11-18 17:48:56] DangerandPlay : let's see if 91 holds
[2024-11-18 17:49:24] bmagic : nah this is going to hell
[2024-11-18 17:49:27] bmagic : its just teasing us
[2024-11-18 17:49:36] bmagic : as soon as i go long it will dump
[2024-11-18 17:49:41] DangerandPlay : are you saying that becase it is, or because you want it to? :)
[2024-11-18 17:49:43] DangerandPlay : please go long
[2024-11-18 17:49:59] bmagic : no because the order book is scrammed full of fake orders
[2024-11-18 17:50:03] bmagic : its going to dump hard
[2024-11-18 17:50:03] Joeyy132 : I Love BitMEX: oh but sir, it’s not possible, I heard it’s 100% backed
[2024-11-18 17:50:13] Joeyy132 : does this mean they burned the real assets backing it too????
[2024-11-18 17:50:16] Joeyy132 : hahahahahhahahaha
[2024-11-18 17:50:22] Joeyy132 : what a load of SH1T
[2024-11-18 17:50:48] Joeyy132 : Tether is going to 0 this is facts if you don’t agree you’re thick as pig sh1t
[2024-11-18 17:50:51] Joeyy132 : dumb fucks
[2024-11-18 17:51:23] Joeyy132 : DangerandPlay: @bmagic hold shorts until 11k
[2024-11-18 17:51:30] Joeyy132 : if u don’t u will regret
[2024-11-18 17:52:03] Joeyy132 : marsin123: 99.9 some random nothing level
[2024-11-18 17:52:07] bmagic : haven't had to deal with this much bs volatility since the tether scandal
[2024-11-18 17:52:15] Joeyy132 : …..
[2024-11-18 17:52:23] Joeyy132 : tether scandal incoking
[2024-11-18 17:52:30] Joeyy132 : This time it ends
[2024-11-18 17:53:20] I Love BitMEX : Joeyy132: agree
[2024-11-18 17:53:34] I Love BitMEX : Joeyy132: I'm not even trading tether pairs anymore
[2024-11-18 17:53:39] I Love BitMEX : Only isdc pairs @Joeyy132
[2024-11-18 17:53:46] I Love BitMEX : Usdc
[2024-11-18 17:54:51] I Love BitMEX : The famous **bulls in an echo chamber** pattern appeared!
[2024-11-18 17:56:17] tesst : Can a wale just pump this btc to the moon please?
[2024-11-18 17:56:38] bmagic : i actually have it in my TA that this is the top
[2024-11-18 17:56:48] bmagic : but its 1.5 years old
[2024-11-18 17:57:41] weiron12 : there are alot of sellwalls to 100k from here
[2024-11-18 17:57:52] weiron12 : not gonna pump there quickly
[2024-11-18 17:58:26] bmagic : https://www.tradingview.com/x/Q3m8psBb/
[2024-11-18 17:58:34] bmagic : this was my TA from Septe-mber.
[2024-11-18 17:59:13] bmagic : wyckoff distribution with an adjustment for a blue sky rally.
[2024-11-18 17:59:38] weiron12 : bmagic: down to 66k from here?
[2024-11-18 17:59:40] bmagic : could be heading back to 66k
[2024-11-18 17:59:50] bmagic : which makes sense
[2024-11-18 18:00:03] bmagic : 66k is the new 48k
[2024-11-18 18:00:32] bmagic : its old TA but so far its held true 100%
[2024-11-18 18:00:39] bmagic : even the projection
[2024-11-18 18:01:19] bmagic : as you can see the waves were estimate from September ebcause they're not perfectly placed.
[2024-11-18 18:01:33] bmagic : but its maintained formation
[2024-11-18 18:01:37] bmagic : even the gap formed at 78k
[2024-11-18 18:01:50] bmagic : the upthrust traget
[2024-11-18 18:01:53] bmagic : before final distribution
[2024-11-18 18:02:10] bmagic : for the interim 83k is the target
[2024-11-18 18:02:15] bmagic : see what happens there
[2024-11-18 18:02:31] bmagic : if it fills the 78k gap could be a monster rally to 114k
[2024-11-18 18:02:40] bmagic : or it could hold resistance below 84k
[2024-11-18 18:02:47] bmagic : and we'll see 66k
[2024-11-18 18:02:50] bmagic : probably lower.
[2024-11-18 18:03:19] bmagic : after reviewing my TA i removed my profit takes on this short
[2024-11-18 18:04:13] futuresfred : Nice, going to ride it all the way huh
[2024-11-18 18:05:11] bmagic : might as well
[2024-11-18 18:05:24] bmagic : my annual projections tend to be pretty accurate historically
[2024-11-18 18:05:39] bmagic : have called every major market crash since 2018
[2024-11-18 18:05:52] bmagic : not the time to doubt my analysis now
[2024-11-18 18:06:08] kroleg666 : as always, we're going to 42k, then bounce to 60k
[2024-11-18 18:06:12] kroleg666 : bulls wasting time
[2024-11-18 18:06:17] futuresfred : bmagic: yeah man absolutely
[2024-11-18 18:06:26] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated short on `GMTUSD`: Buy 4395 Cont @ 0.1743 ($7,002.44) - Bye Bye butterfly!
[2024-11-18 18:07:18] tesst : i go short, fuck it
[2024-11-18 18:07:49] bmagic : i think Michael Saylor is going to get liquidated
[2024-11-18 18:07:57] bmagic : then we'll see the next rally
[2024-11-18 18:08:05] bmagic : something stupid like that will happen
[2024-11-18 18:08:14] bmagic : shock and demoralise a lot of people
[2024-11-18 18:08:20] bmagic : then BlackRock will dig deep
[2024-11-18 18:08:44] bmagic : we're all just pawns to big institutions when its trading
[2024-11-18 18:08:50] PittyG : RonnieREKT: you just lost 7k on a spewi short??? :)
[2024-11-18 18:09:10] bmagic : ronnie's a bot
[2024-11-18 18:09:18] bmagic : liquidation news bot
[2024-11-18 18:10:34] PittyG : and who got liquidated? 😥
[2024-11-18 18:14:40] bmagic : you'll see a lot more of those shortly
[2024-11-18 18:14:43] bmagic : liquidated longs
[2024-11-18 18:14:54] futuresfred : bmagic: oh yas
[2024-11-18 18:21:22] clarknova : o/
[2024-11-18 18:21:42] doublecheese : Hello frens. Cheese is still holding, of course.
[2024-11-18 18:21:46] doublecheese : /position xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: 7,900 USD @ 65512.3392 ```
[2024-11-18 18:21:58] doublecheese : I didn't get a dip juicy enough to buy
[2024-11-18 18:21:59] I Love BitMEX : doublecheese: u gonna get rekt
[2024-11-18 18:22:03] clarknova : doublecheese: your cheese smells good
[2024-11-18 18:22:18] kroleg666 : they're still on it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaPNplVpsH0
[2024-11-18 18:22:37] I Love BitMEX : Imagine the smell at 50k bruv
[2024-11-18 18:22:37] clarknova : I Love BitMEX: toxic_mode / on
[2024-11-18 18:22:46] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 200 USD @ 91208.9 - Game over
[2024-11-18 18:22:47] I Love BitMEX : Time to shit yo pants
[2024-11-18 18:23:34] tesst : I long Bitch I loose money
[2024-11-18 18:23:42] tesst : i short btc I loose money too
[2024-11-18 18:23:49] tesst : is there something in between
[2024-11-18 18:23:57] I Love BitMEX : ANALYSIS: Bitcoin's volume dominance among the top 50 altcoins has fallen to 41%, the lowest level since 2022. This significant decline reflects the shifting dynamic in the cryptocurrency market. Subscribe to @the_antithesis
[2024-11-18 18:24:56] crypto_kenevel : It just means there are more alt coins in circulation soaking up liquidity
[2024-11-18 18:25:08] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated short on `ETHUSD`: Buy 23 Cont @ 3197.32 ($6,721.36) - Hehehe :arthur::arthur::arthur:
[2024-11-18 18:25:39] The_Reaper : where that fook is eth crawling under from
[2024-11-18 18:25:57] bmagic : price been suppressed for a long time since ETF
[2024-11-18 18:26:03] morexry : doublecheese: /position btxusdt love our entries
[2024-11-18 18:26:12] morexry : /position btcusdt ``` :bitmex: XBTUSDT: 0.013 XBT @ 61861.09 ```
[2024-11-18 18:26:14] DangerandPlay : /position xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: -43,400 USD @ 92199.9 ```
[2024-11-18 18:26:17] Vitaliksb!tch : Sol dead eth will always kill it
[2024-11-18 18:27:07] Vitaliksb!tch : Don't count eth out
[2024-11-18 18:27:50] kroleg666 : /rpnl xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: 0.0009 XBT RPNL ```
[2024-11-18 18:27:58] kroleg666 : soon 0.001btc
[2024-11-18 18:28:17] Vitaliksb!tch : Maybe after sol gets efts next year you'll will get rich till then keep holding the bag
[2024-11-18 18:28:54] kroleg666 : its last years of crypto tho
[2024-11-18 18:29:15] Test123123q : /position xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: -10,000 USD @ 91224.2292 ```
[2024-11-18 18:29:37] Withywindle : look at all these shorts
[2024-11-18 18:29:42] Withywindle : thanks in advanced for the fuel
[2024-11-18 18:29:50] Vitaliksb!tch : Ya agree @kroleg666 fukn institutions are in now
[2024-11-18 18:29:53] kroleg666 : look at these bulls longing ath
[2024-11-18 18:29:58] Withywindle : i can smell $169k
[2024-11-18 18:30:00] Withywindle : :rocket:
[2024-11-18 18:30:15] Crypto_Cowboy_1982 : Come on ETH, let's get going
[2024-11-18 18:30:18] Vitaliksb!tch : Withywindle: keep smelling
[2024-11-18 18:30:24] kroleg666 : Vitaliksb!tch: not just that
[2024-11-18 18:30:29] Withywindle : Crypto_Cowboy_1982: :rocket:
[2024-11-18 18:30:35] Vitaliksb!tch : Nose to close to ass I guess
[2024-11-18 18:30:38] kroleg666 : there's significant AI progress, there are quantum computers just around the corner
[2024-11-18 18:30:41] bmagic : doom
[2024-11-18 18:30:42] kroleg666 : technological singularity soon
[2024-11-18 18:30:48] Withywindle : Crypto_Cowboy_1982: position?
[2024-11-18 18:30:51] bmagic : 66k according to my TA
[2024-11-18 18:30:52] I Love BitMEX : I miss the old days
[2024-11-18 18:30:54] I Love BitMEX : When
[2024-11-18 18:30:54] bmagic : thats fkd hope not
[2024-11-18 18:30:59] I Love BitMEX : bmagic: stfu
[2024-11-18 18:31:02] kroleg666 : meanwhile btc running 15 year old PoW chain
[2024-11-18 18:31:02] I Love BitMEX : I miss the old days
[2024-11-18 18:31:04] I Love BitMEX : When
[2024-11-18 18:31:08] I Love BitMEX : Bitcoin was 1 dolla
[2024-11-18 18:31:08] kroleg666 : with barely any changes
[2024-11-18 18:31:10] bmagic : I Love BitMEX: you don't want to see me mad
[2024-11-18 18:31:12] I Love BitMEX : Those were the days
[2024-11-18 18:31:19] I Love BitMEX : bmagic: i wanted to say...
[2024-11-18 18:31:20] Vitaliksb!tch : kroleg666: nit from biw just hasn't been known to the publi544
[2024-11-18 18:31:20] I Love BitMEX : That
[2024-11-18 18:31:23] kroleg666 : with maybe 3 virgins coding it in their free time
[2024-11-18 18:31:24] I Love BitMEX : I miss those days
[2024-11-18 18:31:27] I Love BitMEX : When bitcoin
[2024-11-18 18:31:29] Vitaliksb!tch : Public
[2024-11-18 18:31:33] I Love BitMEX : Was 1 dolla
[2024-11-18 18:31:36] I Love BitMEX : Vitaliksb!tch: i
[2024-11-18 18:31:42] I Love BitMEX : Miss those days
[2024-11-18 18:31:45] I Love BitMEX : When bitcoin
[2024-11-18 18:31:47] I Love BitMEX : Was 1 dolla
[2024-11-18 18:31:53] kroleg666 : I Love BitMEX: it will be
[2024-11-18 18:31:54] kroleg666 : dw
[2024-11-18 18:32:05] I Love BitMEX : kroleg666: i opened the pivot cycle top chart
[2024-11-18 18:32:05] kroleg666 : imo before 2030
[2024-11-18 18:32:11] I Love BitMEX : And it points to 1 doar
[2024-11-18 18:32:16] I Love BitMEX : Dollar
[2024-11-18 18:32:30] kroleg666 : just long btc below $1, cant go wrong (don't use more than 1x lev tho because if it goes to 0 then everybody above 1x will be rekd)
[2024-11-18 18:32:38] Vitaliksb!tch : I Love BitMEX: don't we all
[2024-11-18 18:33:05] I Love BitMEX : Vitaliksb!tch: do you believe in dreams?
[2024-11-18 18:33:13] I Love BitMEX : Let's dream about bitcoin at 1 dollar
[2024-11-18 18:33:20] I Love BitMEX : If you like bitcoin here
[2024-11-18 18:33:22] Vitaliksb!tch : I Love BitMEX: probably here longer than u n still miss it
[2024-11-18 18:33:25] I Love BitMEX : You will gonna love it at 1 dollar
[2024-11-18 18:33:29] I Love BitMEX : Let's be bitcoiners!
[2024-11-18 18:33:43] kroleg666 : just don't long more than 1x lev there
[2024-11-18 18:33:49] kroleg666 : if it reaches $1 it can wick to $0
[2024-11-18 18:33:54] I Love BitMEX : Ye
[2024-11-18 18:33:54] kroleg666 : and everybody above 1x will be rekd
[2024-11-18 18:33:59] kroleg666 : better be 0.99x
[2024-11-18 18:34:00] kroleg666 : just in case
[2024-11-18 18:34:14] Vitaliksb!tch : Lol dyk .
[2024-11-18 18:34:16] kroleg666 : then maybe bounce to $50
[2024-11-18 18:34:20] Vitaliksb!tch : Lol fun .m
[2024-11-18 18:34:22] kroleg666 : and you get 5000% profits
[2024-11-18 18:34:32] Vitaliksb!tch : Fuk dat we go 250x
[2024-11-18 18:34:35] kroleg666 : but imo best way is to short from here
[2024-11-18 18:34:40] I Love BitMEX : You know why another reason for btc to go 1 dollar?
[2024-11-18 18:34:45] I Love BitMEX : To see the real value of alts
[2024-11-18 18:34:49] I Love BitMEX : For example
[2024-11-18 18:34:52] I Love BitMEX : If btc 1 dolla
[2024-11-18 18:34:54] kroleg666 : maybe to flip with BCH also
[2024-11-18 18:34:55] kroleg666 : or Doge
[2024-11-18 18:34:58] I Love BitMEX : Eth price what?
[2024-11-18 18:35:02] I Love BitMEX : Understand my point?
[2024-11-18 18:35:12] kroleg666 : all alts will die then probably
[2024-11-18 18:35:15] kroleg666 : except for Doge
[2024-11-18 18:35:17] kroleg666 : Doge stronk
[2024-11-18 18:35:19] I Love BitMEX : If btc will go to 1 dolla hypothetically what will the price of alts be
[2024-11-18 18:35:24] kroleg666 : 0
[2024-11-18 18:35:29] kroleg666 : all gone and delisted
[2024-11-18 18:35:31] I Love BitMEX : I don't think so
[2024-11-18 18:35:39] I Love BitMEX : Because these should actually decouple from btc
[2024-11-18 18:35:45] kroleg666 : only some will survive
[2024-11-18 18:35:47] kroleg666 : mostly Doge
[2024-11-18 18:35:53] I Love BitMEX : This coupling of everything with bitcoin is what brought trouble in the first place
[2024-11-18 18:39:16] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 2100 USD @ 90813.8
[2024-11-18 18:39:29] vitalk's kitty : Bitches
[2024-11-18 18:39:37] vitalk's kitty : /since ``` :bitmex: vitalk&#39;s kitty has been on BitMEX since Apr 24, 2019. ```
[2024-11-18 18:40:08] Vitaliksb!tch : Please fuk off @vitalk's kitty
[2024-11-18 18:40:18] FishyGuy : /since ``` :bitmex: FishyGuy has been on BitMEX since Jul 6, 2018. ```
[2024-11-18 18:40:31] vitalk's kitty : Admin look at this cake
[2024-11-18 18:41:00] Vitaliksb!tch : vitalk's kitty: cake this my new acc n see here /since now suk
[2024-11-18 18:41:13] Vitaliksb!tch : /since ``` :bitmex: Vitaliksb!tch has been on BitMEX since Feb 24, 2019. ```
[2024-11-18 18:41:53] Vitaliksb!tch : Now suk
[2024-11-18 18:42:55] Vitaliksb!tch : And u vanish typical puss
[2024-11-18 18:42:59] I Love BitMEX : Vitaliksb!tch: march 2018 here
[2024-11-18 18:43:13] Vitaliksb!tch : Bro 2917 Feb
[2024-11-18 18:43:28] Vitaliksb!tch : 2017 Feb
[2024-11-18 18:43:44] bmagic : November 2024 is unprecedented
[2024-11-18 18:43:47] Crazydodger : /since ``` :bitmex: Crazydodger has been on BitMEX since May 19, 2022. ```
[2024-11-18 18:43:48] Vitaliksb!tch : Sorry this cake heating ke up
[2024-11-18 18:44:22] Crazydodger : lol my other account is from 2017
[2024-11-18 18:45:05] vitalk's kitty : Keep sucking dicks you'll be cool
[2024-11-18 18:45:19] I Love BitMEX : **cz just rug pulled Paolo ardoino**
[2024-11-18 18:45:22] 666getoboy : u guys are very dramatic
[2024-11-18 18:45:39] Vitaliksb!tch : No need your mum does me so always cool
[2024-11-18 18:46:17] Vitaliksb!tch : Puss show your po big mouth
[2024-11-18 18:46:28] bmagic : /orders xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: Buy 10,500 USD @ 86750 ```
[2024-11-18 18:46:30] bmagic : /orders solusd ``` :bitmex: SOLUSD: Buy 150 Cont @ 228 ```
[2024-11-18 18:46:36] bmagic : enjoy
[2024-11-18 18:46:38] I Love BitMEX : bmagic: sir
[2024-11-18 18:46:44] bmagic : i'll be re-shorting the bounce
[2024-11-18 18:46:50] I Love BitMEX : bmagic: u are a scalper huh?
[2024-11-18 18:46:54] vitalk's kitty : I already won😆😆😆😆
[2024-11-18 18:46:58] bmagic : on this account yeah
[2024-11-18 18:47:17] bmagic : can't trust me on this account
[2024-11-18 18:47:26] bmagic : i'll REKT you and ME
[2024-11-18 18:47:45] Vitaliksb!tch : bmagic: 🤣
[2024-11-18 18:48:11] bmagic : my true target is 66k according to my annual TA
[2024-11-18 18:48:26] bmagic : but plenty of corn to farm if we bounce
[2024-11-18 18:48:29] Vitaliksb!tch : bmagic: 67k n everyone's rich
[2024-11-18 18:48:47] bmagic : nope - too many noobs and their grandmas buying 90k
[2024-11-18 18:48:57] bmagic : they will panic sell at 67k
[2024-11-18 18:49:09] bmagic : so we'll probably see 52k temporarily
[2024-11-18 18:49:13] Vitaliksb!tch : We got trump don't be sad anything possible
[2024-11-18 18:49:18] bmagic : then 114k
[2024-11-18 18:49:25] Vitaliksb!tch : 53k il go crazy
[2024-11-18 18:49:27] bmagic : anyway im a degen
[2024-11-18 18:49:29] bmagic : lets go!
[2024-11-18 18:49:38] bmagic : buy the dip sub 77k
[2024-11-18 18:49:53] bmagic : https://www.tradingview.com/x/xFKqHiSO/
[2024-11-18 18:50:02] Vitaliksb!tch : bmagic: totally good idea
[2024-11-18 18:50:06] Test123123q : Str8 to 44k
[2024-11-18 18:50:06] Getr!ch : Rpnl/ xbtusd
[2024-11-18 18:50:35] Vitaliksb!tch : Guys b selling they wives n kids soon
[2024-11-18 18:50:36] Getr!ch : /rpnl xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: 0.0035 XBT RPNL ```
[2024-11-18 18:50:59] Getr!ch : /upnl xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: 0.0024 XBT UPNL ```
[2024-11-18 18:51:42] bmagic : was disappointed with this scam pump to 92500
[2024-11-18 18:51:58] bmagic : 100% reversed already
[2024-11-18 18:52:04] bmagic : now doom
[2024-11-18 18:53:52] vitalk's kitty : U n your mama wana suk? 0.002 btc
[2024-11-18 18:53:57] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated long on `PEPEUSDT`: Sell 10000000 PEPE @ 0.000020325 ($203.35)
[2024-11-18 18:53:57] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated long on `PEPEUSD`: Sell 780 Cont @ 0.00002034 ($14,303.42) - when moon?
[2024-11-18 18:54:10] 666getoboy : PEPE MAXIS RUINED
[2024-11-18 18:54:25] Vitaliksb!tch : :pepe: :pepe: :pepe:
[2024-11-18 18:54:42] Test123123q : /position xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: -10,000 USD @ 91224.2292 ```
[2024-11-18 18:55:34] Getr!ch : /orders xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: Buy 12,000 USD @ 87999 ```
[2024-11-18 19:02:59] I Love BitMEX : Rekt
[2024-11-18 19:07:03] Joeyy132 : Rekt
[2024-11-18 19:07:43] I Love BitMEX : Joeyy132: hold my hand
[2024-11-18 19:08:02] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated long on `CATUSDT`: Sell 100000 CAT @ 0.000052122 ($5.21)
[2024-11-18 19:08:03] I Love BitMEX : Joeyy132: now jump
[2024-11-18 19:08:32] clarknova : Gimme 86 🙏
[2024-11-18 19:08:56] Schmico666 : DOOM!!!!!!!!!!!
[2024-11-18 19:11:06] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated long on `DOTUSD`: Sell 1890 Cont @ 5.822 ($9,899.52) - ouch..
[2024-11-18 19:11:11] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1000 USD @ 90129.8
[2024-11-18 19:11:21] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated long on `SOLUSDT`: Sell 3 SOL @ 236.33 ($709.34)
[2024-11-18 19:11:32] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated long on `XRPUSD`: Sell 440 Cont @ 1.0885 ($8,629.08) - Make trading great again
[2024-11-18 19:12:11] SteveS. : 85600 is where most big long liquidations sit
[2024-11-18 19:12:36] SteveS. : So that's the bear short term target
[2024-11-18 19:15:21] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated long on `FLOKIUSDT`: Sell 20257000 FLOKI @ 0.00024333 ($4,931.97) - Don't quit your day job
[2024-11-18 19:15:36] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated long on `SOLUSDT`: Sell 7.5000 SOL @ 235.59 ($1,767.78)
[2024-11-18 19:16:04] FishyGuy : ah crap, back under 3000% up again
[2024-11-18 19:16:18] Joeyy132 : never above 90k
[2024-11-18 19:16:19] Joeyy132 : ever again
[2024-11-18 19:16:23] Joeyy132 : never ever
[2024-11-18 19:16:26] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated long on `SUIUSD`: Sell 500 Cont @ 3.66 ($1,647.15)
[2024-11-18 19:16:31] Joeyy132 : will forever go down now
[2024-11-18 19:16:32] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated long on `ETHUSD`: Sell 8 Cont @ 3125.85 ($2,250.72) - Exodia OBLITERATE!
[2024-11-18 19:16:33] FishyGuy : except in like 1 min but yeah
[2024-11-18 19:16:39] FishyGuy : oh nvm, done
[2024-11-18 19:16:48] Joeyy132 : Lol
[2024-11-18 19:16:51] FishyGuy : :P
[2024-11-18 19:17:02] futuresfred : bmagic: How ya looking now mate
[2024-11-18 19:17:10] bmagic : lol thats a yughio card Exodia
[2024-11-18 19:17:16] bmagic : /position xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: -15,000 USD @ 91574.253 ```
[2024-11-18 19:17:19] bmagic : /position solusd ``` :bitmex: SOLUSD: -200 Cont @ 240.8 ```
[2024-11-18 19:17:25] Joeyy132 : Lol
[2024-11-18 19:17:30] bmagic : a fragment of my former self
[2024-11-18 19:17:32] Joeyy132 : sub 90k shirters get rekt
[2024-11-18 19:17:39] Joeyy132 : red means red
[2024-11-18 19:18:04] bmagic : trying to write some code to read and extract my bank statements last 7 years
[2024-11-18 19:18:06] Getr!ch : I heard. Shhh dont tell. That there a fucking big dump inc
[2024-11-18 19:18:16] Getr!ch : Dont tell the troll box i said that
[2024-11-18 19:18:21] futuresfred : bmagic: GPT it brother
[2024-11-18 19:18:22] Getr!ch : 🎈🪡🪤
[2024-11-18 19:18:30] bmagic : GPT isn't working
[2024-11-18 19:18:35] bmagic : comes up with a blank
[2024-11-18 19:18:39] bmagic : so i need to write pyhton
[2024-11-18 19:19:01] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated long on `PNUTUSDT`: Sell 900 PNUT @ 1.54328 ($1,388.94)
[2024-11-18 19:19:24] Getr!ch : Wan e see the shorters from this point fall off .. .
[2024-11-18 19:19:31] Getr!ch : Y for yes . N for no
[2024-11-18 19:19:32] SteveS. : $6000 dump, easy
[2024-11-18 19:21:44] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated long on `PNUTUSDT`: Sell 90 PNUT @ 1.53255 ($138.62)
[2024-11-18 19:21:55] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated long on `PNUTUSDT`: Sell 90 PNUT @ 1.53041 ($138.43)
[2024-11-18 19:22:05] bmagic : when big whale dump
[2024-11-18 19:22:13] bmagic : when anti-moon
[2024-11-18 19:22:16] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated long on `PNUTUSDT`: Sell 90 PNUT @ 1.52299 ($138.45)
[2024-11-18 19:22:24] bmagic : come on splish splash
[2024-11-18 19:23:04] Gandalf the Grey : Haraaaam
[2024-11-18 19:23:12] futuresfred : bmagic: oh fair enough dude
[2024-11-18 19:23:27] futuresfred : bmagic: whats your first downside target if I may ask, 88?
[2024-11-18 19:23:52] kroleg666 : 60k won't hold
[2024-11-18 19:23:54] kroleg666 : next stop 42k
[2024-11-18 19:24:58] bmagic : futuresfred: 86750
[2024-11-18 19:24:58] kroleg666 : look at daily
[2024-11-18 19:25:04] kroleg666 : double top right rejection
[2024-11-18 19:25:09] kroleg666 : megacrash
[2024-11-18 19:25:14] kroleg666 : with*
[2024-11-18 19:26:01] futuresfred : bmagic: ⭐
[2024-11-18 19:26:07] MrBritcoin : 82k lets go
[2024-11-18 19:26:21] MrBritcoin : :ME::ME::ME::ME:
[2024-11-18 19:26:24] Dario1 : :downrocket:
[2024-11-18 19:27:01] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated long on `PNUTUSDT`: Sell 80 PNUT @ 1.53232 ($123.89)
[2024-11-18 19:27:57] MrBritcoin : https://www.tradingview.com/x/p1Z49R78/
[2024-11-18 19:34:56] luckii : Wen moon
[2024-11-18 19:36:31] futuresfred : MrBritcoin: Lets get it
[2024-11-18 19:38:11] Getr!ch : We r goin back boys. Shhhh is a secret
[2024-11-18 19:38:25] futuresfred : get your big ass down btc
[2024-11-18 19:38:37] Getr!ch : 93 k
[2024-11-18 19:39:32] Getr!ch : Beautifull revearsel
[2024-11-18 19:40:15] marsin123 : Getr!ch: nice
[2024-11-18 19:40:48] Getr!ch : Who i? No. Btc is nice @marsin123
[2024-11-18 19:40:53] Getr!ch : 🪤
[2024-11-18 19:44:46] marsin123 : Nice calling the reversal thats going to happen ↩️
[2024-11-18 19:46:39] Beezee : what you lot saying? who's longing the thing who's shorting it?
[2024-11-18 19:47:21] futuresfred : Im short right now but getting my arse beat
[2024-11-18 19:47:41] futuresfred : went in a little hard there
[2024-11-18 19:47:43] futuresfred : but we move
[2024-11-18 19:47:44] kroleg666 : 200x short
[2024-11-18 19:47:58] futuresfred : kroleg666: sitting pretty?
[2024-11-18 19:48:02] kroleg666 : yeah
[2024-11-18 19:48:05] kroleg666 : im confident
[2024-11-18 19:48:08] futuresfred : kroleg666: how do you even get 200x haha
[2024-11-18 19:48:29] futuresfred : kroleg666: good man
[2024-11-18 19:48:34] futuresfred : time for some wine
[2024-11-18 19:48:35] kroleg666 : jk about 200x
[2024-11-18 19:48:37] kroleg666 : but yea
[2024-11-18 19:48:49] kroleg666 : only thin air until 42k
[2024-11-18 19:48:58] kroleg666 : ponzi about to crash hard
[2024-11-18 19:49:01] kroleg666 : i don't know when tho
[2024-11-18 19:49:16] kroleg666 : last weeks its just scam pa
[2024-11-18 19:49:19] kroleg666 : and fomo
[2024-11-18 19:50:07] futuresfred : kroleg666: yeah I agree dude
[2024-11-18 19:50:17] futuresfred : I didnt get the best entry but will hold out
[2024-11-18 19:50:28] futuresfred : I would like to see us drop back down for another low now
[2024-11-18 19:50:37] futuresfred : but if It pops higher I'm going to reposition
[2024-11-18 19:50:50] kroleg666 : you have god entry compared to mine hahaha
[2024-11-18 19:50:59] kroleg666 : i'm basically short-hodler
[2024-11-18 19:51:00] kroleg666 : at this point
[2024-11-18 19:51:06] gemeo2 : Going to 85k
[2024-11-18 19:51:09] kroleg666 : funding is nice tho
[2024-11-18 19:51:20] kroleg666 : funding = free money no risk
[2024-11-18 19:51:54] futuresfred : kroleg666: hahah yeah thats a good point on the funding, I'm over leveraged like a boob though so we shall see
[2024-11-18 19:56:15] Ovid5 : 93k boys and girls
[2024-11-18 19:58:05] The_Reaper : no comprende
[2024-11-18 19:58:12] The_Reaper : up had its chance
[2024-11-18 19:58:24] The_Reaper : even ballstreet bois couldn't pump it
[2024-11-18 19:59:00] futuresfred : The_Reaper: my point exactly so why the fuck is it green right now lol
[2024-11-18 19:59:29] The_Reaper : its green because these suckahs still believe in the 4hr triangle breakout
[2024-11-18 19:59:30] The_Reaper : lmfao
[2024-11-18 19:59:34] The_Reaper : just got rejected again
[2024-11-18 19:59:48] The_Reaper : let them bang their heads for a while
[2024-11-18 19:59:56] The_Reaper : we will empty their wallets soon enough
[2024-11-18 20:00:09] Getr!ch : marsin123: u saw me thatbi saw that this bitccc wouldve flip
[2024-11-18 20:02:09] Ovid5 : come with the first liquidations
[2024-11-18 20:02:39] futuresfred : The_Reaper: its probably going to climb to like 91300 now after I've shut most of this short and then crumble ffs haha
[2024-11-18 20:11:55] Ogwost : Poor beartards couldn't hold below 90 again 😥
[2024-11-18 20:12:19] Yourholyhireless : bullrun has ended cause bullrun has started
[2024-11-18 20:12:30] Ogwost : Dw the next support at 92 is coming
[2024-11-18 20:13:34] clarknova : zzzz
[2024-11-18 20:16:39] futuresfred : The_Reaper: 👀👀
[2024-11-18 20:21:15] I Love BitMEX : Rekt
[2024-11-18 20:21:45] Shawn-Williams : We are about to cross 93500 in sometime
[2024-11-18 20:21:47] Shawn-Williams : get ready
[2024-11-18 20:21:48] Getr!ch : Look at this is this the end lfd 90 k ?
[2024-11-18 20:22:41] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 7000 USD @ 91458
[2024-11-18 20:22:41] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated short on `XBTUSDT`: Buy 0.4500 XBT @ 91415.8 ($41,145.34)
[2024-11-18 20:24:06] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 144500 USD @ 91797.3 - Buenos Dias!
[2024-11-18 20:24:26] chujev : crazy intraday PA
[2024-11-18 20:24:29] kroleg666 : lol scam
[2024-11-18 20:24:32] futuresfred : lol
[2024-11-18 20:24:37] futuresfred : absolutely ridiculous
[2024-11-18 20:24:44] Shawn-Williams : 93500+ get ready
[2024-11-18 20:24:44] kroleg666 : /orders xbtusd time to add ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: Sell 1,000 USD @ 103952.5 XBTUSD: Sell 1,000 USD @ 108488.8 XBTUSD: Sell 1,000 USD @ 96246.6 XBTUSD: Buy 500 USD @ 5050.5 XBTUSD: Buy 500 USD @ 1001 ```
[2024-11-18 20:24:49] I Love BitMEX : BREAKING NEWS: Donald Trump is set to meet privately with Coinbase CEO Brian Armstrong to discuss appointments, according to the Wall Street Journal. Source | Subscribe to @the_antithesis
[2024-11-18 20:25:00] futuresfred : kroleg666: I guess so
[2024-11-18 20:25:02] RomanW93 : kroleg666: proper swingtrader
[2024-11-18 20:25:03] Simio_Short : ANIMAL BRUTALITY...... :O
[2024-11-18 20:25:08] speedwell : Zoom zoom a zoom a zoom zoom
[2024-11-18 20:25:31] blaster33 : DONALD TRUMP’S SOCIAL MEDIA COMPANY IS IN ADVANCED TALKS TO BUY BAKKT, A CRYPTOCURRENCY TRADING VENUE OWNED BY INTERCONTINENTAL EXCHANGE- FT - RTRS
[2024-11-18 20:25:34] blaster33 : :arthur:
[2024-11-18 20:25:47] I Love BitMEX : Trump bought the dip
[2024-11-18 20:25:58] kroleg666 : trump doesnt even know what bitcoin is
[2024-11-18 20:26:01] Ogwost : Shawn-Williams: hi legend. Hope you are winning this 💪
[2024-11-18 20:26:04] The_Reaper : BAKKT, we heard that story before
[2024-11-18 20:26:05] kroleg666 : it's all pre-election hype
[2024-11-18 20:26:08] The_Reaper : never got off the ground
[2024-11-18 20:26:12] I Love BitMEX : 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀
[2024-11-18 20:26:21] Shawn-Williams : Ogwost: yo
[2024-11-18 20:26:25] The_Reaper : reject here and off with ya
[2024-11-18 20:26:27] RomanW93 : kroleg666: you know the election is already over right?
[2024-11-18 20:26:35] kroleg666 : RomanW93: technically yes
[2024-11-18 20:26:38] kroleg666 : he's still scamming tho
[2024-11-18 20:26:39] Simio_Short : ETH TO MOOOON
[2024-11-18 20:27:09] kroleg666 : lower high so far
[2024-11-18 20:27:12] kroleg666 : weak bulls
[2024-11-18 20:27:27] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated short on `XBTUSDT`: Buy 0.3000 XBT @ 91872.2 ($27,572.33)
[2024-11-18 20:27:29] RomanW93 : the arabs are buying
[2024-11-18 20:27:44] bluemaster : silly kids
[2024-11-18 20:27:51] bluemaster : /pnl xbth25 ``` :bitmex: XBTH25: 0.1457 XBT RPNL, 1.3568 XBT UPNL ```
[2024-11-18 20:27:51] 666getoboy : I LOVE YOU MR TRUMP
[2024-11-18 20:27:53] 666getoboy : I LOVE YOU
[2024-11-18 20:27:54] bluemaster : /pnl xbtm25 ``` :bitmex: XBTM25: 0.0178 XBT RPNL, 1.1437 XBT UPNL ```
[2024-11-18 20:27:59] bluemaster : /pnl xbtz24 ``` :bitmex: XBTZ24: 1.2602 XBT RPNL, 0.0137 XBT UPNL ```
[2024-11-18 20:28:35] clarknova : C'mon ! Where is my scam dump ?*
[2024-11-18 20:28:41] kroleg666 : /rpnl xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: 0.0010 XBT RPNL ```
[2024-11-18 20:29:11] kroleg666 : clarknova: I guess they need more cow fuel
[2024-11-18 20:29:14] Crypto_Cowboy_1982 : ETH, this time, come on
[2024-11-18 20:29:16] clarknova : We need to get rid of all this parasitic overleveraged late longs
[2024-11-18 20:29:32] MobiDick : eject or reject?
[2024-11-18 20:29:38] The_Reaper : reject
[2024-11-18 20:29:39] The_Reaper : again
[2024-11-18 20:29:39] Ogwost : clarknova: still lots of bottom shorts to get rid of
[2024-11-18 20:29:41] kroleg666 : ejaculate
[2024-11-18 20:29:45] bluemaster : clarknova: kids are shorting ,scared to buy not longs mate
[2024-11-18 20:29:54] Ogwost : bluemaster: this
[2024-11-18 20:29:55] kroleg666 : 92k dead
[2024-11-18 20:29:56] kroleg666 : its over
[2024-11-18 20:30:02] kroleg666 : straight to abyss
[2024-11-18 20:30:06] The_Reaper : MS bought the top once again
[2024-11-18 20:30:09] The_Reaper : what a dumb idiot
[2024-11-18 20:30:10] clarknova : bluemaster: who's stupid enough to short this ??
[2024-11-18 20:30:11] kroleg666 : yeah haha
[2024-11-18 20:30:26] kroleg666 : clarknova: they play you like toys
[2024-11-18 20:30:28] kroleg666 : don't you see
[2024-11-18 20:30:30] The_Reaper : all this buying is just Saylor
[2024-11-18 20:30:32] The_Reaper : the idiot
[2024-11-18 20:30:33] kroleg666 : now ppl longing top
[2024-11-18 20:30:37] The_Reaper : on his way to liquidation
[2024-11-18 20:30:50] kroleg666 : saylor thinks he's stronger than whole market
[2024-11-18 20:31:02] clarknova : The_Reaper: well he's a very rich and lucky idiot then
[2024-11-18 20:31:03] I Love BitMEX : ANALYSIS: $SUI is outperforming $SOL. $SUI's Total Value Locked (TVL) has skyrocketed to $1.6B. Interestingly, $SUI is rising while Bitcoin's dominance is increasing, making its potential for growth even more impressive. Source | Subscribe to @the_antithesis
[2024-11-18 20:31:13] I Love BitMEX : ANALYSIS: $SUI is outperforming $SOL. $SUI's Total Value Locked (TVL) has skyrocketed to $1.6B. Interestingly, $SUI is rising while Bitcoin's dominance is increasing, making its potential for growth even more impressive. Source | Subscribe to @the_antithesis
[2024-11-18 20:31:27] Crypto_Cowboy_1982 : every time I log on, so much dump talk when we are literally entering parabolic phase
[2024-11-18 20:31:33] Simio_Short : they say trump grabbed her by the pussy :)
[2024-11-18 20:31:37] Simio_Short : :O
[2024-11-18 20:31:45] Simio_Short : :kek:
[2024-11-18 20:31:58] Simio_Short : puzzy
[2024-11-18 20:31:58] kroleg666 : the only thing that is impressive is how many idiots are longing ath
[2024-11-18 20:32:01] The_Reaper : this is fake triangle breakout bullocks
[2024-11-18 20:32:02] The_Reaper : dump it
[2024-11-18 20:32:04] Crypto_Cowboy_1982 : good action this to attract shorters
[2024-11-18 20:32:12] kroleg666 : ppl learned nothing from 2017
[2024-11-18 20:32:45] bluemaster : Exchanges are insolvent all value in shitcoins ,that is only reason they trying to pump shitcoins kids !
[2024-11-18 20:32:47] 666getoboy : Crypto_Cowboy_1982: IS THIS PARABOLA IN THE ROOM WITH US RIGHT NOW SIR?
[2024-11-18 20:33:13] I Love BitMEX : SUI NEW ATH INCOMING
[2024-11-18 20:33:20] I Love BitMEX : 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀
[2024-11-18 20:33:32] Crypto_Cowboy_1982 : 666getoboy: erm 66k to 92k in 3 weeks?
[2024-11-18 20:33:36] bluemaster : no bitcoin left for retails anymore now governments jumping in
[2024-11-18 20:33:51] 666getoboy : Crypto_Cowboy_1982: yes and then stuck at 90 for a week
[2024-11-18 20:33:57] 666getoboy : parabolas get stronger, they dont get flat