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[2015-12-05 03:34:31] messiaen8844 : :)
[2015-12-05 03:35:03] podizzler3k : not sure its gonna dip until 377
[2015-12-05 03:35:05] podizzler3k : but i will
[2015-12-05 03:35:17] cataquil : bitcoin on bbc now
[2015-12-05 03:35:18] messiaen8844 : don't sell before the targets
[2015-12-05 03:35:26] podizzler3k : on bbc wtf
[2015-12-05 03:35:28] messiaen8844 : hold weekly
[2015-12-05 03:35:44] podizzler3k : messiaen8844 cant i just sell a little bit :)
[2015-12-05 03:36:23] podizzler3k : oh bbc covering garza
[2015-12-05 03:36:25] podizzler3k : that bum
[2015-12-05 03:36:32] podizzler3k : not very good press there
[2015-12-05 03:38:04] zanza : 380 next stop
[2015-12-05 03:38:20] podizzler3k : ahah there he is
[2015-12-05 03:38:24] podizzler3k : good luck charm
[2015-12-05 03:38:25] zanza : podizzler3k: hey
[2015-12-05 03:38:53] podizzler3k : bitmex meetup party on the moon 2018
[2015-12-05 03:38:57] podizzler3k : not being figurative
[2015-12-05 03:38:59] podizzler3k : on the actual moon
[2015-12-05 03:39:27] podizzler3k : maybe we'll let rapidtrades come in teh cargo hold
[2015-12-05 03:39:28] zanza : lol
[2015-12-05 03:39:32] zanza : ill take Spacex
[2015-12-05 03:39:45] zanza : podizzler3k: lmao
[2015-12-05 03:40:22] podizzler3k : ok i'll race you in my refurbished apollo
[2015-12-05 03:43:50] micmix : lots of sells, are you guys taking profit already?
[2015-12-05 03:49:35] messiaen8844 : this is a series of cascading inverse head and shoulers
[2015-12-05 03:49:43] messiaen8844 : minor correction, dip buying then new explosion
[2015-12-05 03:50:39] messiaen8844 : stuff bubbles are made of )
[2015-12-05 03:50:48] micmix : in any case, thanks everyone for selling and bringing my bots close to neutral
[2015-12-05 03:51:34] zanza : micmix: np
[2015-12-05 03:51:53] cataquil : quicky 375 371...danke
[2015-12-05 03:51:59] messiaen8844 : thought all those bots that keep screwing us would make tons of money mic!
[2015-12-05 03:52:28] micmix : oh don't worry about the bots, they are making nice returns :-)
[2015-12-05 03:52:58] messiaen8844 : hit 50% fibo and rebounded, still going up
[2015-12-05 04:37:14] messiaen8844 : still more to climb
[2015-12-05 06:13:12] ethexio : Rekt. Oh well, need a break and catch up on sleep.
[2015-12-05 06:14:06] rapidtrades : close toe REKT-territory as well
[2015-12-05 06:47:46] podizzler3k : http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/kiss.gif
[2015-12-05 07:14:15] rapidtrades : bitmex traders: quick let's bid up prices before the fall
[2015-12-05 08:14:14] rapidtrades : micmix: bots REKTed?
[2015-12-05 08:15:02] micmix : nope, still positive on 24H even without any hedging
[2015-12-05 08:15:40] micmix : take a much quicker rise without much selling to get in trouble
[2015-12-05 08:15:48] micmix : * will take
[2015-12-05 08:16:23] rapidtrades : cool
[2015-12-05 08:20:38] stevelim : time to get out longs?
[2015-12-05 08:20:58] rapidtrades : yeah dump
[2015-12-05 08:21:01] micmix : BTW, top okc holder just reduced position by 10k contracts
[2015-12-05 08:21:08] rapidtrades : oh shit
[2015-12-05 08:21:22] micmix : he had a long most likely
[2015-12-05 08:21:31] rapidtrades : yah
[2015-12-05 08:21:45] stevelim : sold
[2015-12-05 08:22:01] rapidtrades : that wasn't my bid but tnx anyway
[2015-12-05 08:22:30] stevelim : my pleasure
[2015-12-05 08:22:47] rapidtrades : trying to get out of the freaking short
[2015-12-05 09:38:42] rapidtrades : LET'S GAMBOOOL
[2015-12-05 09:38:59] rapidtrades : YOLO
[2015-12-05 09:44:37] rapidtrades : bitfinex sentiment 80% long
[2015-12-05 09:44:45] rapidtrades : still 10% to go!
[2015-12-05 09:45:01] rapidtrades : we're not going down until every tool jumps on board
[2015-12-05 09:47:16] rapidtrades : so top 2 and 3 continue to increase while n1 is out...
[2015-12-05 09:47:24] rapidtrades : NOT BULLISH ENOUGH
[2015-12-05 10:10:29] rapidtrades : that's some nasty reversal on okc futures....let's see if it continu
[2015-12-05 10:14:10] messiaen8844 : still up, not selling point yet
[2015-12-05 10:16:02] rapidtrades : messiaen8844: no premium here? ppl don't believe this rally/
[2015-12-05 10:16:19] rapidtrades : or everyone long and needs to sell?
[2015-12-05 10:16:19] messiaen8844 : if you sell here, good luck trying to buy it back, any dip will be bought until spot 375
[2015-12-05 10:17:34] rapidtrades : wouldn't be surprised if I'm the only human selling here, not including the bots
[2015-12-05 10:18:49] messiaen8844 : selling point is at 2500, or waiting for take 2500 euphoria breakout
[2015-12-05 10:18:52] rapidtrades : messiaen8844: wait but we're already at 373/374
[2015-12-05 10:18:56] messiaen8844 : *fake
[2015-12-05 10:19:11] rapidtrades : did u mean 365
[2015-12-05 10:22:19] messiaen8844 : got lost in the CNY, probably a bit higher than 375, between 375/380
[2015-12-05 10:22:36] rapidtrades : all i know is every rally that went up in a straight line crashed back down
[2015-12-05 10:22:52] messiaen8844 : give me examples
[2015-12-05 10:22:53] rapidtrades : I wont be selling after settlement but not buying this move
[2015-12-05 10:23:06] rapidtrades : EVERY SINGLE ONE since 20 days ago
[2015-12-05 10:25:34] rapidtrades : the biggest retracement since 355 on futures is $5
[2015-12-05 10:26:02] rapidtrades : so basically $30 straight up
[2015-12-05 10:26:27] messiaen8844 : it will soon retrace, but then it may go $100 up next time, be prepared
[2015-12-05 10:27:05] rapidtrades : yeah not going short, it's close to my breakout, will switch long if we go higher
[2015-12-05 10:29:55] messiaen8844 : I'll watch out for 2060, if there's indication of some top
[2015-12-05 10:30:21] rapidtrades : this rally is super strange...$30 dollar swings every way....it would be weird to see it go much above $400
[2015-12-05 10:30:41] rapidtrades : the best moves come from a flat base
[2015-12-05 10:30:50] rapidtrades : where everyone's complacent
[2015-12-05 10:31:29] messiaen8844 : zoom out, you will see how after 2500/2600, next target only at 2900 CNY
[2015-12-05 10:31:55] rapidtrades : is that $504?
[2015-12-05 10:32:49] rapidtrades : I just don't like the way it moves....feels like it's just being pushed around by someone with more money then brains
[2015-12-05 10:32:49] messiaen8844 : +- $ 450
[2015-12-05 10:32:58] messiaen8844 : $500 is euphoria price, not real target
[2015-12-05 10:33:35] rapidtrades : $500>$300>$380>$350>$375
[2015-12-05 10:33:52] messiaen8844 : no comingback to $350
[2015-12-05 10:33:55] rapidtrades : feels like pumping
[2015-12-05 10:34:04] rapidtrades : no those are the previous swings
[2015-12-05 10:34:19] rapidtrades : feels like someone is pumping this like an altcoin
[2015-12-05 10:38:26] rapidtrades : we went down $5 now we're back up, retard mode engaged
[2015-12-05 10:40:01] habibi : its calles shaking in and out rapidtraders
[2015-12-05 10:40:38] rapidtrades : habibi: that's just it, $5 isn't going to shake anyone out
[2015-12-05 10:40:53] rapidtrades : it just means more and more ppl long...and when everyone's long...
[2015-12-05 10:41:24] habibi : rapidtrades: but its gonna to make many people open short position on bottom and long on top
[2015-12-05 10:42:57] rapidtrades : ok well my experiment failed...I need to go over my trades and see if there can be any improvement
[2015-12-05 10:43:34] habibi : and ur experiment was?
[2015-12-05 10:43:48] habibi : shorting bottoms?
[2015-12-05 10:44:00] rapidtrades : no....market making plus scalping..lost 0.15 btc since I started 20 days ago, cheap lesson imo
[2015-12-05 10:44:40] messiaen8844 : rapid, study longer time frames
[2015-12-05 10:44:44] messiaen8844 : daily and weekly
[2015-12-05 10:45:05] rapidtrades : I already trade longer, this was a test, don't worry
[2015-12-05 10:45:09] messiaen8844 : then those moves will make more sense
[2015-12-05 10:47:56] Tera2342 : Are there any other good chat rooms for trading Bitcoins and other cryptocurrencies and assets on IRC?
[2015-12-05 10:48:31] messiaen8844 : more uppage
[2015-12-05 10:49:32] messiaen8844 : look @ coindesk
[2015-12-05 10:50:51] rapidtrades : I got out $1 below here...looks like it's topping but with settlement in 1h who cares
[2015-12-05 10:51:13] messiaen8844 : more neckline testing
[2015-12-05 10:52:59] messiaen8844 : if it retraces, 2406 is my target for dip buying
[2015-12-05 10:53:57] messiaen8844 : but still expecting that last exhaustion spike
[2015-12-05 10:54:59] messiaen8844 : a few more dollars up
[2015-12-05 11:00:09] habibi : finex stronh
[2015-12-05 11:00:10] habibi : g
[2015-12-05 11:00:27] messiaen8844 : be careful now
[2015-12-05 11:08:52] messiaen8844 : http://www.coindesk.com/hands-on-with-visa-europes-bitcoin-remittance-app/
[2015-12-05 11:10:08] rapidtrades : wait a min...how do I move my BTC from trading to exchange wallet on finex
[2015-12-05 11:11:08] justinlooking : rapidtrades: got a direction for us?
[2015-12-05 11:11:29] messiaen8844 : judging by his history , he's probably shorting
[2015-12-05 11:15:30] rapidtrades : are the fees for margin trading and exchange trading the same on finex
[2015-12-05 11:17:52] mwalshe99 : settlement price is going to be pretty for the gulls
[2015-12-05 11:17:58] mwalshe99 : bulls
[2015-12-05 11:20:54] messiaen8844 : waiting for new contract to open
[2015-12-05 11:22:00] messiaen8844 : I would close before settlement
[2015-12-05 11:22:10] messiaen8844 : https://www.tradingview.com/x/32fwqA61/
[2015-12-05 11:23:07] gaoMex : 6458?
[2015-12-05 11:24:43] podizzle3k : messiaen8844: exhaustion spike or euphoria?
[2015-12-05 11:24:58] messiaen8844 : took partial profits, other part of position is open
[2015-12-05 11:25:05] habibi : 2500
[2015-12-05 11:25:24] messiaen8844 : probably exhaustion for me
[2015-12-05 11:36:45] podizzle3k : if i set a buy order for 24hr now will it fill on the new daily?
[2015-12-05 11:36:59] justinlooking : no
[2015-12-05 11:37:07] podizzle3k : justinlooking: thanks
[2015-12-05 11:37:09] justinlooking : unless you are registred mm and choose it to happen
[2015-12-05 11:40:27] messiaen8844 : next 20 minutes will be fun
[2015-12-05 11:40:35] justinlooking : hopefully
[2015-12-05 11:47:04] rapidtrades : fun as in HAHA or fun as in ''that was ridiculous''
[2015-12-05 11:47:53] messiaen8844 : fun as in "i'm glad I cashed out my overleveraged position at the top"
[2015-12-05 11:48:05] justinlooking : fun as in the "rapidicator strikes again" :)
[2015-12-05 11:48:12] habibi : fun as in "rapidtrades - best reverse indicator"
[2015-12-05 11:48:16] habibi : justinlooking: :D
[2015-12-05 11:48:58] rapidtrades : how does it strike again? i got out neat 374, so by ur dipshit logic we should be below that right
[2015-12-05 11:49:15] rapidtrades : learn to read stupids, its timestamped chat
[2015-12-05 11:49:43] justinlooking : dat aggression tho
[2015-12-05 11:50:11] justinlooking : just call a top so we can press on
[2015-12-05 11:50:59] messiaen8844 : sorry I'm bad with USD rapid, my heart is at CNY ;), 2500 the top for me
[2015-12-05 11:51:09] messiaen8844 : local top that is
[2015-12-05 12:04:01] justinlooking : my moon boots are still at the dry cleaners
[2015-12-05 12:04:57] habibi : new top
[2015-12-05 12:04:58] habibi : :)
[2015-12-05 12:05:27] messiaen8844 : euhpophoria
[2015-12-05 12:06:10] justinlooking : many obvious ,such direction
[2015-12-05 12:13:22] podizzler3k : ahhh
[2015-12-05 12:13:28] podizzler3k : need a break
[2015-12-05 12:13:39] podizzler3k : sitting in cash i hope it doesnt take off for 2600
[2015-12-05 12:13:44] messiaen8844 : if BIP 101 and HK doesn't screw us, parabolic soon
[2015-12-05 12:14:08] podizzle3k : seems parabolic already
[2015-12-05 12:14:11] laisee : expect a dip if HK doesnt produce a clear solution.
[2015-12-05 12:14:33] podizzler3k : dunno about that
[2015-12-05 12:14:45] podizzler3k : i dont think they are planning on a resolution
[2015-12-05 12:14:47] podizzler3k : just a meeting
[2015-12-05 12:14:50] messiaen8844 : people are taking profit here, no one will short this
[2015-12-05 12:14:53] podizzler3k : its 4 phases or something
[2015-12-05 12:15:27] laisee : well, no clear direction after all this time will not look good IMO
[2015-12-05 12:15:51] rapidtrades : if finex is the same price as here, its better to be long here right? cos of the way these futures trade?
[2015-12-05 12:15:54] messiaen8844 : as in bigger time frame shorts, the ones that forms those descending trends
[2015-12-05 12:16:07] messiaen8844 : buy dips and be happy
[2015-12-05 12:16:24] laisee : what messiaen8844 says++
[2015-12-05 12:16:39] rapidtrades : just answer the q ffs
[2015-12-05 12:22:55] messiaen8844 : never tried finex
[2015-12-05 12:24:05] sleger : no trollbox there, you wouldn't know what to do
[2015-12-05 12:25:00] sleger : oops sorry wasnt for you, misread the name sorry
[2015-12-05 12:25:51] podizzler3k : rapidtrades your question doesnt make sense
[2015-12-05 12:26:10] podizzler3k : if the price is going up, its better to be long at all exchanges
[2015-12-05 12:26:13] podizzler3k : not just here or there
[2015-12-05 12:26:21] sleger : of course it doesn't, everything he says lacks clarity and meaning
[2015-12-05 12:26:24] messiaen8844 : is the price is parabolic better to be on margin )
[2015-12-05 12:26:34] podizzler3k : they have 3x there
[2015-12-05 12:26:37] podizzler3k : i think
[2015-12-05 12:26:47] habibi : 3.33
[2015-12-05 12:26:52] habibi : or something close
[2015-12-05 12:27:08] laisee : can lend coins & USD there
[2015-12-05 12:28:28] rapidtrades : podizzler3k: it does make sense stupid...whether it goes up or down u make/lose same amount of BTC...but at $300 that btc is worth less so u don't lose as much here
[2015-12-05 12:29:08] rapidtrades : that partially why there's always a premium here
[2015-12-05 12:29:14] laisee : rapid> do you know difference between leverage of 3.33 vs 100X?
[2015-12-05 12:29:31] j8 : rapidtrades: i have a great reference for you to read on that
[2015-12-05 12:29:32] podizzler3k : http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/leowtf.gif
[2015-12-05 12:29:45] rapidtrades : whatever...going to relax a bit, filled my longs
[2015-12-05 12:29:58] rapidtrades : may my curse be upon all of us gentlemen
[2015-12-05 12:30:03] justinlooking : abandon ship!
[2015-12-05 12:30:07] podizzler3k : oh no
[2015-12-05 12:30:14] podizzler3k : good thing im in cash
[2015-12-05 12:30:18] laisee : cursed by the worst, oh noes ...
[2015-12-05 12:30:26] sleger : time to short
[2015-12-05 12:30:31] habibi : rapidtrades: u need to read about dffrent futures contracts
[2015-12-05 12:30:33] habibi : and
[2015-12-05 12:30:41] habibi : margin trading
[2015-12-05 12:30:43] podizzler3k : relax is a good idea, for me too
[2015-12-05 12:30:48] laisee : &btc; is dead!
[2015-12-05 12:30:58] habibi : basically on the same moves u makes diffrent money on okcoin/here and finex
[2015-12-05 12:31:27] habibi : and same position*
[2015-12-05 12:31:38] messiaen8844 : depends if multiplier is dollars or USD
[2015-12-05 12:31:49] messiaen8844 : longing here FTW
[2015-12-05 12:31:56] habibi : usd or dollars ;p?
[2015-12-05 12:32:05] messiaen8844 : shit, BTC or USD
[2015-12-05 12:32:13] podizzler3k : its harder to make money shorting here is that right?
[2015-12-05 12:32:22] habibi : yep and depends if its quanto futures like here or okcoin
[2015-12-05 12:32:24] podizzler3k : someone posted a bunch of nerdy charts i was looking over
[2015-12-05 12:32:39] messiaen8844 : you make BTC, not USD
[2015-12-05 12:33:26] justinlooking : https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/3sl5e6/in_depth_bitmex_xbt_contract_analysis/
[2015-12-05 12:33:28] justinlooking : was it this?
[2015-12-05 12:33:53] messiaen8844 : basically hedge in fiat long in BTC
[2015-12-05 12:33:57] podizzle3k : saved
[2015-12-05 12:40:23] messiaen8844 : need more downage for the great show
[2015-12-05 12:45:14] laisee : a new crop of long bubble-traders in china is about to get harvested?
[2015-12-05 12:47:51] justinlooking : bullish here, until okc weekly gets to 375
[2015-12-05 12:49:54] justinlooking : s/until/unless
[2015-12-05 14:07:41] habibi : messiaen8844: good call
[2015-12-05 14:10:07] jung1 : nice pump
[2015-12-05 14:10:11] messiaen8844 : i am buying
[2015-12-05 14:10:31] habibi : i closed shorts
[2015-12-05 14:20:36] jung1 : someone have fun with that 350-390$
[2015-12-05 15:05:49] rapidtrades : CMON BIG MONEY CMON BIG MONEY
[2015-12-05 15:23:41] rapidtrades : just curious...is anyone bearish in this chat atm?
[2015-12-05 15:25:16] messiaen8844 : no
[2015-12-05 15:25:17] messiaen8844 : super bullish
[2015-12-05 15:25:54] rapidtrades : cool, nothing to worry about then
[2015-12-05 15:34:47] TschavaTschigger : Winnie Pooh is bearish
[2015-12-05 15:40:58] justinlooking : lol
[2015-12-05 15:41:53] justinlooking : Yogi, Paddington and Rupert too
[2015-12-05 16:01:18] TschavaTschigger : so much bearish.... i'm going short
[2015-12-05 16:01:43] rapidtrades : I don't trust this rally...long half my usual size
[2015-12-05 16:07:48] sleger : 5 contracts ?
[2015-12-05 16:09:00] rapidtrades : sleger: yeah that's how much I pay for ur mother
[2015-12-05 16:09:11] rapidtrades : don't do guys, sorry
[2015-12-05 16:21:36] sleger : really high class this kid
[2015-12-05 16:34:02] habibi : rapidtrades: don't arque with them! u are the boss here, dont forget! they dont have their own indicator, u do!
[2015-12-05 16:34:15] justinlooking : ^^
[2015-12-05 16:34:28] justinlooking : rapidtrades = prophet
[2015-12-05 16:34:48] justinlooking : or maybe "tehporP" more appropriate
[2015-12-05 16:37:35] laisee : "the prop"
[2015-12-05 17:04:40] podizzler3k : cool my buy orders hit
[2015-12-05 17:05:51] podizzler3k : just wish i put higher quantity now
[2015-12-05 17:08:48] podizzler3k : nice to leave with no open orders and come back to +115%
[2015-12-05 17:08:51] podizzler3k : :D
[2015-12-05 17:09:17] podizzler3k : now i just have to find a way to balance real life
[2015-12-05 17:10:59] justinlooking : skillz
[2015-12-05 17:11:14] sleger : podizzler3k: how can you leave with no open order and come back to a position ?
[2015-12-05 17:13:05] TschavaTschigger : stop limit
[2015-12-05 17:13:06] podizzler3k : skillz
[2015-12-05 17:13:36] sleger : TschavaTschigger: that would be an open order, just not a limit order
[2015-12-05 17:13:40] podizzler3k : yeah i guess technically its an order but you know what i mean
[2015-12-05 17:14:15] TschavaTschigger : yepp we do
[2015-12-05 17:16:34] podizzler3k : 2lol just placed an order to sell 382 contracts at $2500
[2015-12-05 17:16:38] podizzler3k : derp
[2015-12-05 18:21:00] podizzler3k : anyone here on twitter?
[2015-12-05 18:39:04] podizzler3k : !feature request PNL % in order calculator
[2015-12-05 19:08:38] zanza : 400 yet? yawn
[2015-12-05 19:31:16] messiaen8844 : still consolidating sideways
[2015-12-05 21:28:50] TschavaTschigger : anybody else experiencing okcoin websocket issues?
[2015-12-05 21:36:00] podizzler3k : ewwww
[2015-12-05 21:55:00] justinlooking : pm me TschavaTschigger
[2015-12-05 22:33:09] justinlooking : 5 1/2 hours to break the range
[2015-12-05 22:35:25] habibi : liq?
[2015-12-05 22:37:49] justinlooking : yup https://www.bitmex.com/api/v1/order/liquidations
[2015-12-05 22:38:38] justinlooking : zanza: 400 :)
[2015-12-05 22:39:05] SnackyCoins : DPE on 24h
[2015-12-05 22:39:40] SnackyCoins : aaaand it's gone
[2015-12-05 22:40:22] sleger : 390
[2015-12-05 22:40:24] laisee : UP is the movie playing today
[2015-12-05 22:41:25] habibi : another liq
[2015-12-05 22:41:29] habibi : 45k contracts
[2015-12-05 22:41:31] habibi : ayy
[2015-12-05 22:43:59] justinlooking : wtf going on
[2015-12-05 22:44:24] habibi : two liq already
[2015-12-05 22:44:27] habibi : shorters
[2015-12-05 22:44:31] justinlooking : longs???
[2015-12-05 22:44:55] justinlooking : only 1 long liq on 7d left
[2015-12-05 22:45:33] justinlooking : i have nfi what happened there
[2015-12-05 22:46:01] habibi : two shorts got closed
[2015-12-05 22:46:05] habibi : not longs :p
[2015-12-05 22:46:22] justinlooking : yeh but then two longs got fucked too
[2015-12-05 22:46:50] habibi : how longs get fucked on this pump?
[2015-12-05 22:49:20] zanza : broke 385 previous high
[2015-12-05 22:49:23] zanza : next stop 420
[2015-12-05 22:49:35] habibi : would be great
[2015-12-05 22:49:49] habibi : but lets watch current show
[2015-12-05 22:50:37] justinlooking : BitMEX_Sam anyway to see closed liquidations?
[2015-12-05 22:56:48] SnackyCoins : nom nom nom
[2015-12-05 22:57:02] rapidtrades : zanza: well well, if it isn't ms. $400 himself
[2015-12-05 22:57:05] SnackyCoins : whoevers ask wall: <3
[2015-12-05 22:57:10] SnackyCoins : hearts to you
[2015-12-05 22:57:27] zanza : highest since nov 4
[2015-12-05 23:00:35] podizzler3k : 2900 soon?
[2015-12-05 23:00:48] micmix : okc futures over $400
[2015-12-05 23:01:11] podizzler3k : weekly?
[2015-12-05 23:01:23] podizzler3k : 399 here
[2015-12-05 23:01:25] rapidtrades : yea
[2015-12-05 23:01:52] micmix : but still not a lot of contracts
[2015-12-05 23:03:59] rapidtrades : let us rejoice fellas...on this holiest of days the Lord said: There will be a rally, and it will be BIG''
[2015-12-05 23:04:24] zanza : wow
[2015-12-05 23:04:29] zanza : you are right @micmix
[2015-12-05 23:04:38] cekseh : That was a nice half hour of trading
[2015-12-05 23:04:46] habibi : matrix error
[2015-12-05 23:05:13] cekseh : Now I can call off work till next weekend
[2015-12-05 23:05:55] micmix : weeklies shot up to $405 on okc, 2-3k of contracts got liquidated
[2015-12-05 23:06:39] micmix : correction 5-6k
[2015-12-05 23:06:51] rapidtrades : correction 220k
[2015-12-05 23:07:04] rapidtrades : j/k
[2015-12-05 23:07:11] sleger : still not funny
[2015-12-05 23:07:26] zanza : micmix: rofl
[2015-12-05 23:08:38] rapidtrades : sleger: hello sir? what are u doing on this fine evening? sucking dicks as usual?
[2015-12-05 23:09:28] micmix : I'm out for dinner, don't break $400 without me :-)
[2015-12-05 23:09:38] rapidtrades : too late...
[2015-12-05 23:09:42] justinlooking : no promises ;)
[2015-12-05 23:09:49] rapidtrades : this rally waits for no man
[2015-12-05 23:10:18] micmix : I'm sure it can wait couple hours :-)
[2015-12-05 23:10:33] rapidtrades : it can't trust me
[2015-12-05 23:15:36] sleger : rapidtrades: why can you not contain yourself, and talk like an educated human being, and stop throwing insults that you dont even understand, homophobe !
[2015-12-05 23:17:12] rapidtrades : sleger: hey, I never insulted gays buddy. If you think sucking dicks is bad, that's all on you sir. Calling the cattle black over here!
[2015-12-05 23:17:27] SnackyCoins : man
[2015-12-05 23:17:29] rapidtrades : so much projection
[2015-12-05 23:17:33] SnackyCoins : i hate to validate rapidtrades on anything
[2015-12-05 23:17:34] podizzler3k : contracts only $5 using 20x not that big a deal
[2015-12-05 23:17:37] SnackyCoins : but he fucking got you there lol
[2015-12-05 23:18:26] rapidtrades : SnackyCoins: thank u sir :)
[2015-12-05 23:18:31] podizzler3k : wow
[2015-12-05 23:18:33] sleger : when someone throws to someone they dont know "sucking dicks as usual?" it is clearly intended as an insult
[2015-12-05 23:19:18] sleger : so yes you're homophone and keep insulting people because you can't defend your lack of understanding of futures, leverage, etc... otherwise
[2015-12-05 23:20:01] rapidtrades : whatever...let's not get into that we have more important things to look at right now
[2015-12-05 23:20:13] TschavaTschigger : guess this will be a new 24 turnover record for bitmex
[2015-12-05 23:20:21] podizzler3k : oh sht new highs
[2015-12-05 23:31:49] rapidtrades : that's a really weird looking top on okcoin spot
[2015-12-05 23:31:58] rapidtrades : completely flat
[2015-12-05 23:32:24] rapidtrades : $392
[2015-12-05 23:34:24] cataquil : nice ! some good weekend price action...worth it to get into btc trading
[2015-12-05 23:37:38] podizzler3k : haha yeah you could say that this is some decent action
[2015-12-05 23:39:43] rapidtrades : nothing to do now but sit on ur hands
[2015-12-05 23:40:57] rapidtrades : if ur long :)
[2015-12-05 23:44:04] TschavaTschigger : 40 buys in a row ... or 50?
[2015-12-05 23:44:35] cataquil : I scalp short sometimes but when I go long I tend to hold it longer
[2015-12-05 23:45:20] rapidtrades : TschavaTschigger: not seeing that? refresh
[2015-12-05 23:46:23] TschavaTschigger : rapidtrades: 50 'B's in a row
[2015-12-05 23:46:33] rapidtrades : nope
[2015-12-05 23:46:43] laisee : right hand side on trades list
[2015-12-05 23:47:20] rapidtrades : ah ok...there were like 20 until now
[2015-12-05 23:48:29] rapidtrades : can I hold opposing positions on finex?
[2015-12-05 23:48:37] rapidtrades : on margin trading?
[2015-12-05 23:49:28] sleger : why couldnt you, at 16 you're a big boy, do whatever you want
[2015-12-05 23:50:59] podizzler3k : fite
[2015-12-05 23:51:18] laisee : rapid> can. but why?
[2015-12-05 23:51:50] sleger : laisee: he is trying to understand cash fut arb, been asking questions for weeks, still doesnt get it
[2015-12-05 23:53:48] laisee : sleger> probably so. i don't think liquidity makes that trade workable on s/term basis.
[2015-12-05 23:56:05] SnackyCoins : rapidtrades: you can't hold multiple positions on bitfinex
[2015-12-05 23:56:23] SnackyCoins : not on the same market anyway
[2015-12-05 23:56:47] rapidtrades : ok tnx
[2015-12-05 23:57:36] SnackyCoins : but if you wanted to like hedge out half you could just sell half instead, and buy it back when you would close your short, mathematically it is the same pnl
[2015-12-05 23:58:14] sleger : addition 101
[2015-12-05 23:58:24] rapidtrades : so if I'm long 1 then go short 2, the system will net me as long 1? @SnackyCoins
[2015-12-05 23:58:40] SnackyCoins : if you were long 1 and short 2 you'd be short 1
[2015-12-05 23:58:50] rapidtrades : right
[2015-12-05 23:58:55] justinlooking : wtf "calling the cattle black" !!!!
[2015-12-05 23:59:51] sleger : "rapidtrades: so if I'm long 1 then go short 2, the system will net me as long 1? " => keeping for posterity
[2015-12-06 00:00:16] sleger : even funnier since i just posted "addition 101" right before
[2015-12-06 00:00:27] rapidtrades : SnackyCoins: it would be simpler to manage if have two open but I guess this saves me some margin fees. tnx
[2015-12-06 00:00:44] justinlooking : THE CATTLE!
[2015-12-06 00:01:06] laisee : thnk of the poor cows!
[2015-12-06 00:01:25] sleger : "margin fees" : is that a new thing ?
[2015-12-06 00:01:50] SnackyCoins : yes they had to change the name
[2015-12-06 00:01:57] SnackyCoins : cause CFTC hates the word swaps
[2015-12-06 00:02:17] TschavaTschigger : good night guys, have fun with the rally
[2015-12-06 00:02:17] laisee : swaps wasnt best name anyway
[2015-12-06 00:02:36] justinlooking : ffs i needed those
[2015-12-06 00:02:57] sleger : SnackyCoins: that is funding cost
[2015-12-06 00:04:18] sleger : I think he meant "margin requirement" or just "margin" and not "margin fees", but who knows what goes on in that head
[2015-12-06 00:04:38] justinlooking : night night TschavaTschigger
[2015-12-06 00:04:50] rapidtrades : testing $392 again gents
[2015-12-06 00:12:48] zanza : /blink MOON
[2015-12-06 00:12:52] rapidtrades : BOOOM...next stop $400
[2015-12-06 00:12:58] zanza : rapidtrades: BOOOOM
[2015-12-06 00:14:18] justinlooking : take a bow son
[2015-12-06 00:30:08] zanza : no shorts avail on 24H
[2015-12-06 00:30:08] zanza : lol
[2015-12-06 00:31:00] rapidtrades : stamp and btce lagging badly
[2015-12-06 00:31:10] rapidtrades : guess its the weekend
[2015-12-06 00:31:22] zanza : china leading
[2015-12-06 00:31:39] rapidtrades : stamp bringing down our index...
[2015-12-06 00:32:05] sleger : finex bringing up your index
[2015-12-06 00:32:36] rapidtrades : china $13 premium...yep going nuts over there again
[2015-12-06 00:32:49] justinlooking : 2608 lol
[2015-12-06 00:32:55] thehawthorne : 12
[2015-12-06 00:32:59] rapidtrades : huobi at $15
[2015-12-06 00:34:17] justinlooking : hngggghhhhh
[2015-12-06 00:35:43] habibi : weeklys only 4 premiium here
[2015-12-06 00:35:56] habibi : ah nvm
[2015-12-06 00:36:33] rapidtrades : not much premium on okc too, only $5-$8 above index
[2015-12-06 00:56:43] rapidtrades : any idea why okc is down to 12% in the index and stamp up to 25%? weren't these values flipped week ago
[2015-12-06 00:57:35] habibi : which index?
[2015-12-06 00:57:45] rapidtrades : tradeblock
[2015-12-06 00:58:19] habibi : probally of high premium
[2015-12-06 00:58:32] habibi : but still sucks, okc/hobi are leaders of price
[2015-12-06 00:59:20] rapidtrades : yeah I think coinbase is up too while finex is down as well
[2015-12-06 01:00:04] rapidtrades : not a best choice imo, this dynamic weighting index
[2015-12-06 01:01:01] micmix : I'm back, thanks for not breaking $400 :-)
[2015-12-06 01:01:39] rapidtrades : we hit $399 on finex
[2015-12-06 01:02:17] rapidtrades : this is some nasty reversal lol
[2015-12-06 01:02:19] podizzler3k : hard to blame stamp and btce and finex for lagging with the ridiculous volume at china
[2015-12-06 01:02:52] podizzler3k : not even close to my buy orders yet
[2015-12-06 01:02:54] sleger : where is the "rapidtrades: BOOOM...next stop $400" ?
[2015-12-06 01:03:05] micmix : yep, I see $399, was nice of you to hold off the rally
[2015-12-06 01:04:48] podizzler3k : As the price at a particular exchange diverges from the rest of the data points, its influence on the index consequently decreases.
[2015-12-06 01:04:56] podizzler3k : rapidtrades ^
[2015-12-06 01:05:24] messiaen8844 : lololollooloololololololololololololololo
[2015-12-06 01:05:28] messiaen8844 : just came come to h
[2015-12-06 01:05:34] podizzler3k : wow
[2015-12-06 01:05:39] podizzler3k : u ok breh
[2015-12-06 01:05:47] podizzler3k : just came to HNNNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGG
[2015-12-06 01:05:58] rapidtrades : it's already hard to hedge/arbitrage with multiple exchanges included...with that twist it's even harder
[2015-12-06 01:06:07] rapidtrades : re: tradeblock
[2015-12-06 01:06:16] messiaen8844 : 450% here, cool... too bad I wasn't half as overleveraged as yesterd
[2015-12-06 01:06:16] messiaen8844 : 450% here, cool... too bad I wasn't half as overleveraged as yesterd
[2015-12-06 01:06:23] podizzler3k : hedging and arbitrage between cny and usd virtuallyimpossible
[2015-12-06 01:06:25] podizzler3k : not with this action
[2015-12-06 01:06:29] micmix : yes, tradeblock index reduced China weight during the last rally as well bc China was leading
[2015-12-06 01:06:47] podizzler3k : messiaen8844 yeah its easy to be greedy harder to stay disciplined
[2015-12-06 01:07:04] rapidtrades : podizzler3k: no I meant on the tradeblock...they don't use CNY
[2015-12-06 01:07:06] messiaen8844 : this is th kind of movement to be gree
[2015-12-06 01:07:42] podizzler3k : well i think you mean hedge then not arbitrage
[2015-12-06 01:07:50] podizzler3k : because if you want to arbitrage at okcoin you have to use cny
[2015-12-06 01:07:59] podizzler3k : and there is no exchange at tradeblock
[2015-12-06 01:08:06] messiaen8844 : too tired to remember my previous analysis here, no top yet
[2015-12-06 01:08:06] rapidtrades : ffs...
[2015-12-06 01:08:28] podizzler3k : messiaen8844 you said 2900 next stop
[2015-12-06 01:08:33] rapidtrades : i'm talking about tradeblock, that's the index used for settlement here
[2015-12-06 01:08:38] messiaen8844 : yep, weekly targ
[2015-12-06 01:10:47] rapidtrades : noone is short here, he had no liqs
[2015-12-06 01:10:55] rapidtrades : just mm bots
[2015-12-06 01:11:38] habibi : risk is high in shorting, possible earnings ? only if total reversal
[2015-12-06 01:11:52] rapidtrades : yea
[2015-12-06 01:12:31] sleger : i'm short
[2015-12-06 01:13:32] micmix : generally most regular traders are long here. sleger is not a regular trader :-)
[2015-12-06 01:13:37] podizzler3k : yep especially with quanto futures as opposed to inverse
[2015-12-06 01:13:50] micmix : here I mean on BitMEX 24H
[2015-12-06 01:14:28] micmix : you can see that by checking buy/sell volume
[2015-12-06 01:14:30] habibi : finex
[2015-12-06 01:14:32] rapidtrades : bitcoin network slow?
[2015-12-06 01:14:34] habibi : honors to u!
[2015-12-06 01:14:52] rapidtrades : micmix: where's that? u mean the Bs and Ss?
[2015-12-06 01:15:33] micmix : yep, but you have to write a script to graph the data if you want longer-term view
[2015-12-06 01:15:34] sleger : micmix: the only thing that says is that hitters are buyers and makers are mostly sellers, but that would be expected anyways in an uptrend market
[2015-12-06 01:16:19] justinlooking : sleger / micmix / podizzler3k: is there a way to see filled liquidations? coz i swear something strange happened earlier
[2015-12-06 01:16:22] micmix : sleger: yes, that's what I'm saying, takers are mostly longing. it's much more balanced on finex
[2015-12-06 01:16:53] podizzler3k : here?
[2015-12-06 01:16:57] justinlooking : yeh
[2015-12-06 01:17:01] podizzler3k : i dont think so
[2015-12-06 01:17:04] rapidtrades : network slow? anyone sent money around recently>?
[2015-12-06 01:17:13] podizzler3k : when isnt btc slow
[2015-12-06 01:17:37] sleger : justinlooking: i dont think you can, only open orders
[2015-12-06 01:18:14] justinlooking : ok thanks for reply. we should ask sam for /orders/rekt :P
[2015-12-06 01:20:41] messiaen8844 : rapid NOW I hope you are longing lol
[2015-12-06 01:26:03] podizzler3k : scaling bitconi livestream https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCql9h_eXmusjt-f3k8qLwPQ/live
[2015-12-06 01:26:06] podizzler3k : oh the excitement
[2015-12-06 01:26:23] micmix : IDK, doesn't look like the network is backed up: https://tradeblock.com/bitcoin/ @rapidtrades
[2015-12-06 01:27:45] rapidtrades : idk took me 25 instead of 10mins
[2015-12-06 01:28:03] rapidtrades : 1conf
[2015-12-06 01:32:21] podizzler3k : you think every block comes in 10 minute?
[2015-12-06 01:32:25] podizzler3k : sometimes it takes an hour
[2015-12-06 01:32:47] micmix : well took 45 min for block 386917, so yeah
[2015-12-06 01:33:31] micmix : 48 minutes
[2015-12-06 01:36:02] micmix : PayPal is definitely faster :-)
[2015-12-06 01:39:19] messiaen8844 : reasonable top for now I think
[2015-12-06 01:42:06] messiaen8844 : let's see how it doubles up retesting
[2015-12-06 01:43:07] messiaen8844 : i mean, how it reacts to touching 400 again
[2015-12-06 01:43:07] messiaen8844 : i mean, how it reacts to touching 400 again
[2015-12-06 01:45:26] messiaen8844 : looking at volume on fine
[2015-12-06 01:46:05] justinlooking : surely it can't have another leg up yet...
[2015-12-06 01:46:08] messiaen8844 : not much, price is going by HODL, makes sense because it's hard to find strong resistances
[2015-12-06 02:44:23] zanza : 400 yet?
[2015-12-06 02:44:25] zanza : wa afk
[2015-12-06 02:44:51] SnackyCoins : we hit it
[2015-12-06 03:20:15] Devasive : what is the index price on here?
[2015-12-06 03:20:41] Devasive : on bitfinex the margin is sold at the last price. not sure what bitmex means by index price
[2015-12-06 03:22:54] BitMEX_Wally : Devasive: Our futures are settled based on the TradeBlock XBX Index
[2015-12-06 03:22:59] habibi : https://tradeblock.com/markets/index
[2015-12-06 03:25:00] Devasive : ok thanks
[2015-12-06 04:09:13] habibi : people waking up
[2015-12-06 04:09:21] habibi : and buying all up coins without thinking :D
[2015-12-06 04:15:45] zanza : this is like Nov 4 highs
[2015-12-06 04:16:21] zanza : think it could break to 500 again ?
[2015-12-06 04:21:31] micmix : IMHO if China wants to buy up some more it's going to be 4-6pm China time
[2015-12-06 04:22:27] micmix : we will know in 5 hours or so
[2015-12-06 04:24:12] podizzler3k : micmix i was just thinking the same thing
[2015-12-06 04:24:31] podizzler3k : free'd up some cash for a dump in the next 3 hours
[2015-12-06 04:24:44] habibi : sometimes some action happens at 5-7 am europe time as well
[2015-12-06 04:24:45] habibi : then 11
[2015-12-06 04:25:03] podizzler3k : it really is cyclical with the volume lately
[2015-12-06 04:25:06] habibi : then sometimes later but 14+ imho
[2015-12-06 04:25:10] habibi : 2 pm*