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[2015-12-04 07:39:19] micmix : those $5 movements are boring
[2015-12-04 07:43:06] rapidtrades : # unleash mayhem
[2015-12-04 07:43:11] rapidtrades : /
[2015-12-04 07:43:26] rapidtrades : ''unleash mayhem
[2015-12-04 07:43:29] ethexio : geezus, even secret unreleased Haasbot/Platform breaks on BitMEX. And doesn't use API Key/Secret. :(
[2015-12-04 07:45:18] rapidtrades : $2 discount....who wants to arbirage this away
[2015-12-04 07:48:11] micmix : ethexio: not sure what's so difficult for them. took me couple of hours to get the basics working
[2015-12-04 07:49:05] micmix : the API is very good and quite easy to work with
[2015-12-04 07:49:26] ethexio : API is extremely solid, and well laid out..
[2015-12-04 07:50:11] ethexio : Going to decompile BitMex.DLL and see wtf they did wrong
[2015-12-04 07:50:51] micmix : DLL? are they using C++ or C#/.NET?
[2015-12-04 07:51:01] ethexio : The only data it gets from BitMEX at all is my wallet balance.
[2015-12-04 07:51:03] ethexio : C#
[2015-12-04 07:51:36] micmix : they probably use buggy websocket implementation
[2015-12-04 07:51:54] TschavaTschigger : isn't it just easier to write your own bot? seems like a lot of hazzle to be dependent on 3rd party products that can fuck up all the time
[2015-12-04 07:51:58] ethexio : I don't think they're using websocket, seems REST
[2015-12-04 07:52:21] micmix : well then I'm lost, REST is super-easy in C#
[2015-12-04 07:52:35] ethexio : This new beta looks pretty rad, and has some super sweet features. Like really rad.
[2015-12-04 07:53:00] ethexio : Not really bots, but .. more.
[2015-12-04 07:53:11] TschavaTschigger : if they have rest only it's another big reason not to use them cause it limits your requests by a substantial amount
[2015-12-04 07:53:41] micmix : yeah, takes a lot of work to build full trading system from scratch
[2015-12-04 07:53:46] ethexio : yeah
[2015-12-04 07:54:28] ethexio : This is full trading platform. I guess I'll give it a whirl with OKC. But was really excited for BitMEX...
[2015-12-04 07:55:35] micmix : if you don't do MM or anything else that requires fast order submit/cancel, REST without websocket is fine
[2015-12-04 07:57:30] ethexio : Using websocket for OKC - but getting Exceptions..
[2015-12-04 07:58:24] TschavaTschigger : websocket on okc is pretty bitchy. got disconnected there randomly.
[2015-12-04 08:00:43] TschavaTschigger : solved this by tunneling through my ssh server which I put on same datacenter as okc
[2015-12-04 08:01:02] TschavaTschigger : they are hosting at Alicloud @ Hangzhou
[2015-12-04 08:01:59] TschavaTschigger : interestingly, some others connect directly without any problems, seems to be weird routing, dunno, not a network expert here
[2015-12-04 08:04:46] ethexio : TschavaTschigger: Good to know, thanks.
[2015-12-04 08:11:22] rapidtrades : micmix: do u hedge ur bot exposure on other exchanges
[2015-12-04 08:25:15] rapidtrades : closed longs...back to net sh
[2015-12-04 08:42:57] podizzler3k : i hope you didnt finish that sentence because your internet went down
[2015-12-04 08:42:57] laisee : TschavaTschigger> hows AliCloud?
[2015-12-04 08:43:07] podizzler3k : but it sounded past tense
[2015-12-04 08:43:48] laisee : "sh***t!!!!" was the full ending of sentence ...
[2015-12-04 08:43:54] TschavaTschigger : laisee: shitty
[2015-12-04 08:44:19] laisee : worse than Digital Ocean?
[2015-12-04 08:46:19] TschavaTschigger : dunno, but in comparison to amazon it sucks
[2015-12-04 08:46:32] laisee : K. Heroku > AWS > Digital Ocean IMHO. havent tried rackspace or alicloud so far.
[2015-12-04 08:47:08] TschavaTschigger : by nature, servers with 300ms lag are a pain in the ass
[2015-12-04 08:48:20] laisee : yep. for sure.
[2015-12-04 08:49:12] TschavaTschigger : what bugs me is that it sometimes jumps back to chinese when I am not logged in and visit their site, although they clearly have my cookies. makes zero sense to me.
[2015-12-04 08:50:17] laisee : timeout on their side due to GWC?
[2015-12-04 08:50:30] podizzler3k : come on finex get to movin
[2015-12-04 08:50:34] podizzler3k : obey your chinese overlords
[2015-12-04 08:51:45] laisee : settlement is over now, time to free Willy
[2015-12-04 08:52:20] podizzler3k : time to do it all over again
[2015-12-04 08:52:32] podizzler3k : i wonder what the net gain was since last week
[2015-12-04 08:54:00] podizzler3k : 361.87 last week
[2015-12-04 08:54:01] podizzler3k : lol
[2015-12-04 08:54:14] podizzler3k : after all that insanity we're right back where we started
[2015-12-04 08:54:16] TschavaTschigger : laisee: what's gwc?
[2015-12-04 08:54:32] laisee : great wall of china
[2015-12-04 08:54:58] TschavaTschigger : oh yeah
[2015-12-04 08:55:21] podizzler3k : the only difference is last week we didnt get to 361.87 until the last 30 minutes
[2015-12-04 08:57:29] podizzler3k : hmm nm
[2015-12-04 08:57:34] podizzler3k : i was thinking of the 24hr from the day before
[2015-12-04 08:57:40] laisee : pod> not everyone got the memo on weekly trading cycle.
[2015-12-04 08:58:58] podizzler3k : 347-384 range for last week any predictions on this weeks range?
[2015-12-04 08:59:06] podizzler3k : i got 111-7400
[2015-12-04 08:59:11] podizzler3k : gonna be a wild one
[2015-12-04 08:59:57] podizzler3k : who would have thought that satoshi would put up a 2M btc sellwall at 7400
[2015-12-04 09:00:00] podizzler3k : what a cockblock
[2015-12-04 09:00:22] podizzler3k : dumped us all the way down to $11
[2015-12-04 09:00:30] podizzler3k : notice how i refer to the future in the past tense
[2015-12-04 09:01:43] ethexio : Haas is using ws for BitMEX, i was incorrect earlier.
[2015-12-04 09:02:05] TschavaTschigger : would have been surprise if they hadnt
[2015-12-04 09:02:52] ethexio : Yeah.
[2015-12-04 09:04:14] ethexio : Nevermind.. WebClient for a bunch of operations
[2015-12-04 09:05:18] ethexio : But they have classes called Positions and SocketPositions
[2015-12-04 09:05:24] ethexio : So maybe fallback..?
[2015-12-04 09:05:28] TschavaTschigger : the thing is, why would you waste your requests on orderbook/orders/position when you can get them for free AND with lower latency
[2015-12-04 09:05:30] TschavaTschigger : makes 0 sense
[2015-12-04 09:06:34] ethexio : agreed.
[2015-12-04 09:07:37] ethexio : Still investigating. Maybe I can fix.
[2015-12-04 09:09:17] ethexio : Account BMX pointing to BitMEX has been connected. Trading driver is activated. 12/4/2015 1:08:12 AM|Fatal|WebSocket.processException|WebSocketSharp.WebSocketException: The header part of a frame cannot be read from the data source. at WebSocketSharp.WebSocketFrame.<>c__DisplayClass7.<ReadAsync>b__6(Byte[] header) at WebSocketSharp.Ext.<>c__DisplayClass6.<ReadBytesAsync>b__5(IAsyncResult ar)
[2015-12-04 09:09:29] ethexio : oh shoot, sorry about dump
[2015-12-04 09:12:18] TschavaTschigger : well, can't help you, dunno anything about sharp or this lib
[2015-12-04 09:21:16] ethexio : Just venting :)
[2015-12-04 09:22:29] ethexio : /me fires up Wireshark
[2015-12-04 09:22:41] rapidtrades : sup felas?
[2015-12-04 09:22:53] rapidtrades : long or short today fellas
[2015-12-04 09:23:01] micmix : ethexio: they don't handle disconnect exceptions properly, stupid :-(
[2015-12-04 09:23:39] ethexio : Seems so. Lot's of uncaught exceptions also.
[2015-12-04 09:24:48] micmix : websocketsharp is buggy in any case, we gave up on it and just use MS built-in websocket classes
[2015-12-04 09:25:07] micmix : lower level and more work but 100% reliable
[2015-12-04 09:26:11] micmix : I still prefer node.js for something like that, my BitMEX gateway is 100% node.js
[2015-12-04 09:31:29] micmix : rapidtrades: my lucky coin says go flat
[2015-12-04 09:38:20] ethexio : API Adress: https://www.bitmex.com:80
[2015-12-04 09:38:24] ethexio : wut
[2015-12-04 09:38:38] TschavaTschigger : lmao
[2015-12-04 09:38:59] ethexio : *flips table*
[2015-12-04 09:40:12] rapidtrades : micmix: that's some useless coin right
[2015-12-04 09:40:43] micmix : well when you toss it and it stands on the edge you have to get out of the market and run away :-)
[2015-12-04 09:41:14] rapidtrades : micmix: how do u manage ur risk if prices m
[2015-12-04 09:41:58] rapidtrades : move...wtf is wrong with this cha
[2015-12-04 09:42:01] ethexio : Hmm, maybe I'll setup a proxy..
[2015-12-04 09:42:05] rapidtrades : *t
[2015-12-04 09:43:28] micmix : hedging for big positions and actively reducing positions if the market moves quickly in the wrong direction
[2015-12-04 09:43:54] rapidtrades : hedging with?
[2015-12-04 09:45:21] micmix : cross-exchange hedging, usually using the most liquid market to hedge
[2015-12-04 09:46:12] rapidtrades : so china?
[2015-12-04 09:46:14] micmix : but we are just testing here on BitMEX with small sizes, not worth worrying about
[2015-12-04 09:47:05] micmix : mostly China, depends on the positions of all MMs on different markets
[2015-12-04 09:47:25] rapidtrades : god dam....who's ''W
[2015-12-04 09:47:38] rapidtrades : WE
[2015-12-04 09:48:33] TschavaTschigger : haha I have been asking myself that for weeks whenever he says that word
[2015-12-04 09:48:39] micmix : no idea :-)
[2015-12-04 09:48:55] rapidtrades : Goldman? is tha
[2015-12-04 09:49:06] rapidtrades : ffs...die chat d
[2015-12-04 09:49:09] TschavaTschigger : but obviously means splitting profits ;)
[2015-12-04 09:49:31] rapidtrades : wth...the last two letters are cut out
[2015-12-04 09:49:53] micmix : happened to me couple of times, try reloading the page
[2015-12-04 09:49:56] rapidtrades : srsly have they changed the code? its super slow now
[2015-12-04 09:50:11] rapidtrades : gay aids
[2015-12-04 09:50:16] rapidtrades : looks ok now
[2015-12-04 09:50:25] micmix : I guess I have to stop using 'we'
[2015-12-04 09:50:28] rapidtrades : flipper likes dildos
[2015-12-04 09:50:32] laisee : added checks for bad language and moral turpitude
[2015-12-04 09:50:46] rapidtrades : whta's turpitude
[2015-12-04 09:50:57] laisee : if you have to ask ...
[2015-12-04 09:51:31] rapidtrades : .....yeah I have to ask
[2015-12-04 09:51:58] laisee : it's where you ask, What Would FloopFllop Do?
[2015-12-04 09:52:10] rapidtrades : take it up the ash?
[2015-12-04 09:52:22] rapidtrades : so that's not really applicable is it?
[2015-12-04 09:54:21] laisee : not quite, but you're on the right track
[2015-12-04 09:55:16] rapidtrades : looks like it...finally in the green after half a month trading here
[2015-12-04 09:56:07] rapidtrades : lot of wasted time though
[2015-12-04 09:56:20] rapidtrades : hopefully it was worth it :)
[2015-12-04 09:57:13] laisee : congrats ;-/
[2015-12-04 09:58:36] rapidtrades : tnx :)
[2015-12-04 10:00:11] rapidtrades : that runway loss from $330 to $360 FUCKED ME OVER
[2015-12-04 11:25:23] rapidtrades : down we go b1tches
[2015-12-04 11:35:04] ethexio : Whee
[2015-12-04 11:39:47] rapidtrades : GUYS PANIC
[2015-12-04 11:42:27] ethexio : OK
[2015-12-04 11:59:45] habibi : wtf?
[2015-12-04 12:00:58] sleger : yeah it's called settlement, happens everyday, terrible stuff...
[2015-12-04 12:01:03] habibi : nvm ;p one minute delated settlemetn
[2015-12-04 12:04:51] rapidtrades : no premium today fellas?
[2015-12-04 12:12:47] habibi : 3k buy wall okc
[2015-12-04 12:12:59] habibi : and its gone
[2015-12-04 12:17:35] rapidtrades : fill ma bids mill ma bids gentlemens
[2015-12-04 12:18:56] habibi : 8.4 k wall
[2015-12-04 12:19:12] habibi : looks like final sell off before dump
[2015-12-04 12:19:13] rapidtrades : where
[2015-12-04 12:19:16] habibi : okcoing
[2015-12-04 12:22:43] rapidtrades : weekly already bid up to premium
[2015-12-04 12:59:32] jung1 : pump and dump coins are obsolette
[2015-12-04 12:59:42] jung1 : now you can make site
[2015-12-04 12:59:51] jung1 : and croudfunging http://www.coinfox.info/news/3926-kuna-announces-pre-christmas-crowdsale-of-the-first-ukrainian-bitcoin-exchange
[2015-12-04 13:02:17] ethexio : First Ukrainian Exchange...
[2015-12-04 13:03:17] ethexio : Seems legit, have a ref?
[2015-12-04 13:11:53] rapidtrades : are we buying or selling
[2015-12-04 13:13:34] habibi : This will allow for fees as low as 1% - this is joke :D?
[2015-12-04 13:13:59] rapidtrades : meh same as coinbase
[2015-12-04 13:14:27] rapidtrades : oh wait it's an exchange
[2015-12-04 13:17:50] rapidtrades : there's that premium we all know and lvoe <3
[2015-12-04 13:18:48] podizzle3k : wouldnt be a day without rapidtrades bringing up his lack of understanding sentiment
[2015-12-04 13:19:41] podizzle3k : lets see how far up these maker bots want to go
[2015-12-04 13:19:46] sleger : or anything else useless for that matter. You'd think at least a few of this comments would have some hint of proof of intelligence, right... but no.
[2015-12-04 13:21:07] rapidtrades : sleger: and it wouldn't be a day with u acting like total shithead
[2015-12-04 13:21:48] sleger : stop insulting people, you are not 12 anymore
[2015-12-04 13:22:07] rapidtrades : ''You'd think at least a few of this comments would have some hint of proof of intelligence''
[2015-12-04 13:22:18] rapidtrades : sleger: projecting much? asshole
[2015-12-04 13:22:56] sleger : no need to insult people, be curteous
[2015-12-04 13:23:10] sleger : *courteous
[2015-12-04 13:24:49] podizzle3k : this is what happens when you get angsty emo guy in the same room as old salty guy
[2015-12-04 13:24:57] podizzle3k : and then theres me, precious and charming in all ways
[2015-12-04 13:25:15] podizzle3k : wuahhaha
[2015-12-04 13:25:25] rapidtrades : podizzle3k: hey u started this
[2015-12-04 13:25:52] podizzle3k : #trollstigator
[2015-12-04 13:26:26] podizzle3k : ok now time to wait for a move
[2015-12-04 13:26:35] podizzle3k : up or down make your move china
[2015-12-04 13:27:46] podizzle3k : omg that huobi wall
[2015-12-04 13:28:31] podizzle3k : its getting eaten up wow
[2015-12-04 13:29:09] podizzle3k : lol wtf
[2015-12-04 13:30:06] podizzle3k : this is insanity
[2015-12-04 13:30:24] rapidtrades : I see no volume on futures
[2015-12-04 13:33:08] podizzle3k : look at this http://i.imgur.com/kqWkAEZ.jpg
[2015-12-04 13:33:12] podizzle3k : seems legit
[2015-12-04 13:34:40] laisee : whyever not?
[2015-12-04 13:38:16] podizzle3k : sure of course people are placing single $1.5M btc orders
[2015-12-04 13:38:44] laisee : ;-)
[2015-12-04 13:39:03] habibi : i guess its the same guy who put 8.6 k sell wall before
[2015-12-04 13:39:11] habibi : buy from himself coz he can
[2015-12-04 13:39:17] habibi : i mean buy wall*
[2015-12-04 13:41:32] podizzle3k : looks like i made a good call dumping 7d at 360.0
[2015-12-04 13:41:37] podizzle3k : settled at 359.6
[2015-12-04 13:41:46] podizzle3k : saved some loot
[2015-12-04 13:42:07] podizzle3k : unless the taker fees were more than that
[2015-12-04 13:42:51] podizzle3k : send in that suicide orc from the two towers to take out this huobi wall
[2015-12-04 13:45:36] podizzle3k : there we go https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBiA8qaLxbI
[2015-12-04 13:45:37] podizzle3k : success
[2015-12-04 13:49:00] podizzle3k : up we go
[2015-12-04 13:49:41] podizzle3k : market make my day
[2015-12-04 13:50:05] rapidtrades : choo choo!
[2015-12-04 13:50:30] rapidtrades : don't get left at the station boys!
[2015-12-04 13:50:54] podizzle3k : haha the person that bought that wall is now dumping it 3cny later
[2015-12-04 13:50:59] podizzle3k : massive profits
[2015-12-04 13:51:09] podizzle3k : cant blame him really
[2015-12-04 13:51:35] rapidtrades : $0.5 bucksies
[2015-12-04 13:51:43] podizzle3k : 3cny * 8000
[2015-12-04 13:51:49] podizzle3k : a little more than that
[2015-12-04 13:51:55] rapidtrades : $4000 bucksies
[2015-12-04 13:52:18] podizzle3k : if you have 2 million dollars is it even worth it for $4000?
[2015-12-04 13:52:25] podizzle3k : seems like $4000 would be chump change
[2015-12-04 13:52:44] rapidtrades : do that 100 times and ur talking real money
[2015-12-04 13:52:58] podizzle3k : probably all automated anywya
[2015-12-04 13:53:04] podizzle3k : just sit back and watch the $4000 roll in
[2015-12-04 13:53:08] rapidtrades : SHUT UP
[2015-12-04 13:53:17] podizzle3k : ...
[2015-12-04 13:53:19] rapidtrades : DON'T KILL THE DREAM
[2015-12-04 13:53:26] podizzle3k : o_o
[2015-12-04 13:53:55] podizzle3k : gonna do some real work bbl
[2015-12-04 13:57:06] rapidtrades : today looks like a tough day for the bulls....0 premium
[2015-12-04 13:57:24] rapidtrades : $2.5 on weekly tho
[2015-12-04 14:22:24] podizzle3k : premium doesnt mean shit except what people expect
[2015-12-04 14:22:32] podizzle3k : in fact 0 premium is better for bulls
[2015-12-04 14:22:45] podizzle3k : means less downward pressure and cheap prices
[2015-12-04 14:28:39] rapidtrades : smone seems upset
[2015-12-04 14:29:31] rapidtrades : so ppl expect more down...that's not a problem for the bulls...like at all
[2015-12-04 14:30:23] podizzle3k : its not a problem at all
[2015-12-04 14:30:32] podizzle3k : ppl expecting more down means theyre already locked into a short position
[2015-12-04 14:30:37] podizzle3k : and it creates upward pressure
[2015-12-04 14:30:39] podizzle3k : you'll learn
[2015-12-04 14:30:52] rapidtrades : I'll learn?
[2015-12-04 14:31:00] podizzle3k : keep at it tiger
[2015-12-04 14:33:00] podizzle3k : this volume at okcoin is absolutely ridiculous. approaching all time highs and the price isnt even moving
[2015-12-04 14:33:30] rapidtrades : volume means shit
[2015-12-04 14:33:41] rapidtrades : it just shows ppl are trading, doesn't say which way
[2015-12-04 14:36:10] habibi : guys ffs its furgazi
[2015-12-04 14:36:47] habibi : fugazi* :D
[2015-12-04 14:36:48] habibi : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEJza1-4zRk
[2015-12-04 14:41:17] podizzle3k : thats why i said is fugazi
[2015-12-04 14:41:24] podizzle3k : the volume just literally turned off
[2015-12-04 14:41:30] podizzle3k : went from 100 to 0 in an instant
[2015-12-04 14:43:30] podizzle3k : 30,000 to 800 actually for each 5 minute candle
[2015-12-04 14:43:34] podizzle3k : #seemslegit
[2015-12-04 14:46:31] habibi : look now
[2015-12-04 14:46:33] habibi : much lower volumen
[2015-12-04 14:46:36] habibi : and pump ?
[2015-12-04 14:49:16] laisee : quelle surpise
[2015-12-04 14:49:41] wurstgelee : looks legit and organic
[2015-12-04 14:55:13] Swedishnut : off to 375 ? wished it would have been yesterday. got smoked last night on the trip to 2286. had been hedged to 2291...
[2015-12-04 15:01:17] messiaen8844 : good reversal pattern
[2015-12-04 15:02:43] messiaen8844 : inverse head and shoulders after touching support on trend line
[2015-12-04 15:03:30] messiaen8844 : if > 2400, then giant reversal happens
[2015-12-04 15:04:03] messiaen8844 : will be interesting to how this plays out
[2015-12-04 15:04:50] messiaen8844 : resistances on the reversal points, should be easy to play that if it becomes bullish
[2015-12-04 15:07:42] podizzle3k : whoa wtf happened
[2015-12-04 15:08:35] podizzle3k : i should leave the computer more often
[2015-12-04 15:08:45] messiaen8844 : the ultimate bears x bull fight here
[2015-12-04 15:09:38] podizzle3k : messiaen where you see the support resistance
[2015-12-04 15:10:57] messiaen8844 : now it will pull back to neckline +/- 2350, that must stay as support if the reversal is to happen
[2015-12-04 15:11:02] messiaen8844 : first resistance 2400, then 2500
[2015-12-04 15:11:42] wurstgelee : Julian Wu was wrong again
[2015-12-04 15:11:48] messiaen8844 : tremendous upside for a cheap stop
[2015-12-04 15:11:49] podizzle3k : haha i quit watchingi those
[2015-12-04 15:11:59] podizzle3k : he was wrong the first two i watched
[2015-12-04 15:12:04] podizzle3k : i mean it seems logical at the time
[2015-12-04 15:12:15] wurstgelee : hes almost always wrong the last 2 weeks
[2015-12-04 15:12:18] podizzle3k : lol
[2015-12-04 15:12:22] messiaen8844 : finex hasn't broke yet it seems
[2015-12-04 15:12:29] wurstgelee : i dont watch them, i just read the headline
[2015-12-04 15:12:29] wurstgelee : ;)
[2015-12-04 15:12:48] wurstgelee : today he wants u to short to 330 ;)
[2015-12-04 15:12:54] podizzle3k : well you just need to be right more often than wrong
[2015-12-04 15:13:02] messiaen8844 : >365 is a sure buy IMHO
[2015-12-04 15:13:03] wurstgelee : hes wrong more often
[2015-12-04 15:13:04] podizzle3k : not even really you just need to cut the losses quick
[2015-12-04 15:13:07] thehawthorne : day isn't over yet
[2015-12-04 15:13:24] messiaen8844 : who is julian wu?
[2015-12-04 15:13:25] podizzle3k : a wild bear appears
[2015-12-04 15:13:44] podizzle3k : messiaen8844: he posts TA on bitmex's twitter account
[2015-12-04 15:13:49] wurstgelee : messiaen8844: https://blog.bitmex.com/?lang=en_us
[2015-12-04 15:13:51] wurstgelee : that guy ;)
[2015-12-04 15:14:02] messiaen8844 : that's my scenario, but it's safer to wait until it plays out
[2015-12-04 15:15:09] messiaen8844 : good entry here
[2015-12-04 15:15:18] podizzle3k : messiaen8844: 2350 i thought
[2015-12-04 15:16:15] podizzle3k : uh oh volume turned off again
[2015-12-04 15:16:18] podizzle3k : must be rebooting
[2015-12-04 15:17:37] messiaen8844 : people are waiting to see which side they take
[2015-12-04 15:22:13] podizzle3k : maker fees ftw
[2015-12-04 15:29:14] podizzle3k : no more $20 fes for me
[2015-12-04 15:29:17] podizzle3k : fees
[2015-12-04 15:40:22] podizzle3k : ballin out of control on these -.025% fees
[2015-12-04 16:00:10] podizzler3k_ : 2350 gone
[2015-12-04 16:06:48] habibi : its gone
[2015-12-04 16:06:49] habibi : its back
[2015-12-04 16:06:50] habibi : its gone
[2015-12-04 16:06:52] habibi : its back...
[2015-12-04 16:48:00] zanza : 400 today
[2015-12-04 16:49:05] TschavaTschigger : zanza: hard to get to 400 if price doesn't move
[2015-12-04 16:49:31] messiaen8844 : it's a contested range because it is also a strong top
[2015-12-04 16:49:59] messiaen8844 : of a bigger triangle
[2015-12-04 16:50:51] messiaen8844 : if it breaks it will just explode, very violently
[2015-12-04 17:03:17] rapidtrades : u guys again getting excited about $3 moves?
[2015-12-04 17:06:53] rapidtrades : premium :)
[2015-12-04 17:15:29] messiaen8844 : what $3 moves?
[2015-12-04 17:16:23] rapidtrades : we moved $3 and ur already losing ur minds
[2015-12-04 17:16:47] rapidtrades : where are we going next $375? $400?
[2015-12-04 17:16:55] rapidtrades : we're going nowhere....relax
[2015-12-04 17:23:31] messiaen8844 : it will move somewhere, pretty significantly
[2015-12-04 17:24:12] messiaen8844 : one could even try a straddle here maybe
[2015-12-04 17:42:03] podizzler3k_ : lol zanza out of nowhere with teh 400 prediction
[2015-12-04 17:43:06] podizzler3k_ : it could go up down or sideways, but i guarantee one thing, the chart will move to the right at a consistant 60 seconds per minute
[2015-12-04 17:44:01] podizzler3k_ : https://cryptowat.ch/okcoin/btccny/5min so pretty with heiken ashi candles and delek theme
[2015-12-04 17:44:32] podizzler3k_ : that chart on a giant OLED screen
[2015-12-04 17:44:54] podizzler3k_ : chartgasm
[2015-12-04 17:48:10] justinlooking : hullo errybody
[2015-12-04 17:56:50] TschavaTschigger : hullo
[2015-12-04 18:00:17] BitMEX_Sam : Morning
[2015-12-04 18:07:47] podizzler3k_ : you guys think usa interest rate hike will give bitcoin a pump?
[2015-12-04 18:08:12] podizzler3k_ : honestly i think all the times we attributed 'real news' to bitcoin price fluctuations it was probably bs
[2015-12-04 18:08:47] podizzler3k_ : i guess there was a few like: silk road, mt gox, china restrictions
[2015-12-04 18:08:56] podizzler3k_ : what i mean is un-bitcoin related news
[2015-12-04 18:09:28] podizzler3k_ : like when people thought that cyprus was hiking the price
[2015-12-04 18:09:34] podizzler3k_ : not sure i buy that
[2015-12-04 18:11:21] messiaen8844 : news are worthless IMO, all psychological patterns and reactions are in price
[2015-12-04 18:11:39] BitMEX_Sam : Agreed that following the news has been continuously unreliable this year
[2015-12-04 18:12:38] messiaen8844 : overall sentiment seems better than the news to find tops
[2015-12-04 18:12:42] messiaen8844 : or bottoms
[2015-12-04 18:13:49] podizzler3k_ : there really has never been a stock market crash or interest rate hike during bitcoins life
[2015-12-04 18:13:49] podizzler3k_ : but its not like people in greece and brazil are buying it up
[2015-12-04 18:26:57] podizzler3k_ : im doing a little research and the only commodity that went up in 2008 was cocoa
[2015-12-04 18:26:58] podizzler3k_ : up 31%
[2015-12-04 18:28:07] podizzler3k_ : people need that chocolate in a recession
[2015-12-04 18:29:35] podizzler3k_ : note to self: if doomsday scenario starts playing out, buy up all the chocolate
[2015-12-04 18:30:50] rapidtrades : no trades in 36 mins
[2015-12-04 18:32:10] podizzler3k_ : #makerproblems
[2015-12-04 18:32:25] rapidtrades : true dat
[2015-12-04 18:32:45] podizzler3k_ : all my trades today have been makers
[2015-12-04 18:32:49] podizzler3k_ : stackin fees
[2015-12-04 18:32:54] rapidtrades : :)
[2015-12-04 18:33:15] podizzler3k_ : fuckin paid $20 to dump my 7d before settlement
[2015-12-04 18:33:27] podizzler3k_ : not sure it was even worth it
[2015-12-04 18:34:32] rapidtrades : how close to settlement was it
[2015-12-04 18:35:32] rapidtrades : settlement only ducks 0.05 pct btw
[2015-12-04 18:35:38] podizzler3k_ : it was definitely worth it
[2015-12-04 18:35:49] podizzler3k_ : .05pct as opposed to .075?
[2015-12-04 18:35:54] rapidtrades : ya
[2015-12-04 18:36:00] podizzler3k_ : oh ok yeah definitely worth it
[2015-12-04 18:36:42] podizzler3k_ : wow another reason to try to get someone to buy your contracts before settlement
[2015-12-04 18:36:45] podizzler3k_ : settlement fees
[2015-12-04 18:36:49] podizzler3k_ : mind blown
[2015-12-04 18:38:55] rapidtrades : some sucker
[2015-12-04 18:41:01] rapidtrades : and after ull be like : IT WAS A SOCIAL EXPERIMENT BRO
[2015-12-04 18:50:13] rapidtrades : hopefully the market will calm down a bit going into the weekend and alls
[2015-12-04 18:51:03] messiaen8844 : not likely
[2015-12-04 18:51:22] rapidtrades : or alternatively, likely
[2015-12-04 18:52:28] rapidtrades : daily chart looks very top heavy
[2015-12-04 18:52:37] rapidtrades : like it's about to rollover
[2015-12-04 18:55:36] podizzler3k_ : nope
[2015-12-04 18:57:35] rapidtrades : podizzler3k_: yep
[2015-12-04 18:58:02] podizzler3k_ : okcoin futures guys that were dumping the last few days actually added some contracts today
[2015-12-04 18:58:18] podizzler3k_ : if youre cashing out you dont add more contracts
[2015-12-04 18:58:38] habibi : settlement was yesterday
[2015-12-04 18:58:40] rapidtrades : added shorts
[2015-12-04 18:58:45] habibi : today*
[2015-12-04 18:58:47] rapidtrades : it was today stupid
[2015-12-04 18:59:12] podizzler3k_ : well it was after settlement thats all that matters
[2015-12-04 18:59:15] podizzler3k_ : in the last 8 hours
[2015-12-04 18:59:30] rapidtrades : meh who cares
[2015-12-04 18:59:46] rapidtrades : i constantly see them getting margin called
[2015-12-04 19:00:09] podizzler3k_ : it could be that they added shorts true, but not likely unless they are hedging a long
[2015-12-04 19:00:17] podizzler3k_ : because when they were dumping the price was going down
[2015-12-04 19:00:30] podizzler3k_ : and the price went up this morning, as they added contracts
[2015-12-04 19:00:36] rapidtrades : again who cares
[2015-12-04 19:00:44] podizzler3k_ : people who are looking to profit?
[2015-12-04 19:01:01] rapidtrades : so they added contrats, just means they can't anymore right
[2015-12-04 19:01:09] habibi : so basically first move after settlement is for making oposite contracts
[2015-12-04 19:01:10] rapidtrades : that's what u said about premium b1tch
[2015-12-04 19:01:13] podizzler3k_ : oh they have the funds
[2015-12-04 19:01:31] podizzler3k_ : #1 is at 6k last wednesday when the dumping started he was at 10k
[2015-12-04 19:01:34] podizzler3k_ : now he started adding again
[2015-12-04 19:01:38] podizzler3k_ : very bullish
[2015-12-04 19:01:45] rapidtrades : ...alright then
[2015-12-04 19:01:55] habibi : maybe adding new shorts?
[2015-12-04 19:02:10] podizzler3k_ : habibi yep if he's hedging
[2015-12-04 19:02:24] podizzler3k_ : okcoin allows you to have longs and shorts open
[2015-12-04 19:02:55] rapidtrades : ppl are perpetually bullish and keep getting slaughtered, don't see how any of that info is useful
[2015-12-04 19:03:13] podizzler3k_ : getting slaughtered really? because ive been cleaning up since september going long
[2015-12-04 19:03:34] rapidtrades : we've been down since November 4th
[2015-12-04 19:03:45] podizzler3k_ : did i say since november 4th?
[2015-12-04 19:03:47] rapidtrades : 1 month
[2015-12-04 19:03:48] podizzler3k_ : i said since september
[2015-12-04 19:04:06] rapidtrades : that ship has sailed buddy
[2015-12-04 19:04:32] podizzler3k_ : what ship is that? the one that its been going perpetually up since september and i can draw a perfect trendline straight up since then?
[2015-12-04 19:04:38] podizzler3k_ : i think its still sailing right along
[2015-12-04 19:05:13] podizzler3k_ : your bias is gonna burn your ass if you dont get it in check
[2015-12-04 19:05:26] podizzler3k_ : if this was 2014 i'd be saying youre 100% right the trend was down for the entire year
[2015-12-04 19:05:32] rapidtrades : my bias? we're going down...im going with the chart
[2015-12-04 19:05:36] podizzler3k_ : or until september of this year actually
[2015-12-04 19:08:05] rapidtrades : this guy just bought a 1mil house in Hawaii but his wife is ugly
[2015-12-04 19:08:17] rapidtrades : talk about gettting ur priorities wron
[2015-12-04 19:08:26] rapidtrades : wrong*
[2015-12-04 19:08:44] podizzler3k_ : haha
[2015-12-04 19:08:53] podizzler3k_ : im sure he could get a hot wife if he wanted
[2015-12-04 19:08:56] podizzler3k_ : theyre not hard to buy
[2015-12-04 19:09:29] rapidtrades : she looked ethnic, maybe he's into that
[2015-12-04 19:10:30] podizzler3k_ : whats the name
[2015-12-04 19:10:35] rapidtrades : can i set alerts here?
[2015-12-04 19:10:48] rapidtrades : Hawaii life...it's a TV show
[2015-12-04 19:11:24] rapidtrades : some randoms buying houses
[2015-12-04 19:11:31] podizzler3k_ : ok i will say this if btc goes to $450 then its definitely going up
[2015-12-04 19:11:46] podizzler3k_ : there will be no denying it at that point
[2015-12-04 19:11:53] podizzler3k_ : and if zanza is right that could be by sunday
[2015-12-04 19:12:12] podizzler3k_ : and if it hits $300 then i will admit i was wrong
[2015-12-04 19:12:40] podizzler3k_ : i know thats not saying much but those are the numbers where things get undeniable imo
[2015-12-04 19:47:36] podizzler3k_ : (zanza): 400 today
[2015-12-04 19:47:38] podizzler3k_ : never forget
[2015-12-04 19:47:51] podizzler3k_ : how do you just come into chat drop that bomb and then leave
[2015-12-04 20:01:43] podizzler3k_ : 927btc at 364 on finex? that shit about to get GOBBLED UP
[2015-12-04 20:01:47] podizzler3k_ : (by me)
[2015-12-04 20:03:05] TschavaTschigger : nah don't think so... think we will end up at 320 by the end of the day to be honest
[2015-12-04 20:03:09] TschavaTschigger : (by me)
[2015-12-04 20:05:05] podizzler3k_ : lol damn you werent playin around
[2015-12-04 20:05:19] podizzler3k_ : thanks for the cheap coins
[2015-12-04 20:05:22] podizzler3k_ : *backs up the truck*
[2015-12-04 20:13:34] zanza : TschavaTschigger: 320, or 1320 ?
[2015-12-04 20:13:41] zanza : you weren't clear
[2015-12-04 20:20:35] TschavaTschigger : meant 320 at first, but changed my mind.. 1320 here we come
[2015-12-04 20:22:51] zanza : ok coo
[2015-12-04 20:23:01] zanza : /blink MOON
[2015-12-04 20:28:18] justinlooking : how much chip would a wood chip chip....
[2015-12-04 20:40:29] messiaen8844 : lots fo CHIP$$$
[2015-12-04 21:13:24] rapidtrades : I think i need to buy a tablet or smth...
[2015-12-04 21:13:33] rapidtrades : not enough screen
[2015-12-04 21:14:34] messiaen8844 : trading is best with 2 or 3 monitors
[2015-12-04 21:14:40] rapidtrades : u know if u get 2 cheap Chinese tablets u can create a makeshift workstation...rly cheap and portable
[2015-12-04 21:15:09] rapidtrades : messiaen8844: I travel a lot, that wouldn't work for me
[2015-12-04 21:19:27] rapidtrades : that move missed my tp by bit
[2015-12-04 21:19:49] messiaen8844 : I have a 12" tablet I use sometimes, not really for trading but it might help you
[2015-12-04 21:24:26] rapidtrades : what a stupid reversal
[2015-12-04 21:26:05] justinlooking : long or short rapid?
[2015-12-04 21:29:59] TschavaTschigger : justinlooking: looking at the orderbook , he was probably the one shorting 25 minutes ago
[2015-12-04 21:32:07] BitMEX_Sam : Try one of those portable monitors, I think Lenovo and Asus sell them
[2015-12-04 21:32:15] BitMEX_Sam : I used to work with one until I got a laptop with a larger screen
[2015-12-04 21:33:48] rapidtrades : $300?
[2015-12-04 21:36:41] TschavaTschigger : BitMEX_Sam: hey sam is it possible that once subscribing to an orderbook, we get a snapshot at first? meaning from level 0 on. I mean yeah, I could just use a rest call for that but then I would have to implement that too
[2015-12-04 21:36:55] BitMEX_Sam : TschavaTschigger: See the `pushSymbol` command
[2015-12-04 21:37:38] BitMEX_Sam : Generally you want your program to be able to handle `partial` type
[2015-12-04 21:37:44] BitMEX_Sam : https://www.bitmex.com/app/wsAPI#symbol-images
[2015-12-04 21:38:25] BitMEX_Sam : Implementing `partial` is simple; just something like `if (data.action === 'partial) store[data.table] = data.data`
[2015-12-04 21:48:12] rapidtrades : yeah just implement partial stupid
[2015-12-04 21:48:24] rapidtrades : TschavaTschigger:
[2015-12-04 21:52:39] sleger : stop insulting people you who has never proven once ounce of intelligence
[2015-12-04 21:56:07] TschavaTschigger : BitMEX_Sam: completely missed the <code>getSymbol</code> command. actually funny that I could successfully avoid that for so long :D
[2015-12-04 22:00:14] messiaen8844 : pst
[2015-12-04 22:00:42] messiaen8844 : just a bit more
[2015-12-04 22:01:20] messiaen8844 : no breakup yet
[2015-12-04 22:12:15] rapidtrades : fell the pain shorties
[2015-12-04 23:30:06] micmix : BitMEX_Sam: any ETA on bulk order placement or order amend?
[2015-12-04 23:46:27] BitMEX_Sam : micmix: Not yet.
[2015-12-04 23:47:30] micmix : ok, not going to worry about that until 2016 :-)
[2015-12-04 23:48:15] podizzle3k : whys it ssay expire in 12 hours?
[2015-12-04 23:48:36] podizzle3k : was this a 36 hour xbt24?
[2015-12-04 23:48:50] BitMEX_Sam : podizzle3k: It always expires at 12 UTC
[2015-12-04 23:49:01] BitMEX_Sam : Hasn't changed.
[2015-12-04 23:49:23] podizzle3k : wow nm i lost track of time
[2015-12-04 23:49:24] podizzle3k : lol
[2015-12-05 00:09:12] podizzler3k : okcoin futures holders adding more contrats. setting up for a monster weekend
[2015-12-05 00:10:02] zanza : price jump to 380's
[2015-12-05 00:11:15] podizzler3k : whoa whoa dont think we forgot about your prediction of '400 today'
[2015-12-05 00:11:20] podizzler3k : youre not getting away with 380 now
[2015-12-05 00:12:39] zanza : :x
[2015-12-05 00:16:02] micmix : okc open contracts still way down from the peak
[2015-12-05 00:16:43] podizzler3k : yep thats my point
[2015-12-05 00:21:43] micmix : top holders added just 4k contracts since yesterday, it's very little. I guess they are expecting choppy market and waiting for a breakout.
[2015-12-05 00:29:26] podizzler3k : they dont seem like the type of people that like to wait
[2015-12-05 00:30:45] podizzler3k : its hard to believe there would be enough fiat coming in to cover the new btc being created daily
[2015-12-05 00:30:55] podizzler3k : its like 10M usd a day or something
[2015-12-05 00:34:04] sleger : podizzler3k: can you do maths ?
[2015-12-05 00:34:14] podizzler3k : 1.7M
[2015-12-05 00:34:19] podizzler3k : hows that
[2015-12-05 00:34:23] sleger : better
[2015-12-05 00:34:39] sleger : but not there yet
[2015-12-05 00:34:49] sleger : what's your calculation, I will correct you ?
[2015-12-05 00:38:16] podizzler3k : 1.4M final answer
[2015-12-05 00:39:21] sleger : ok i would have preferred 1.3 but i will let i slide this time
[2015-12-05 00:39:46] sleger : indeed, maintaining a blockchain is not cheap...
[2015-12-05 00:40:12] podizzler3k : well it fluctuates
[2015-12-05 00:40:17] podizzler3k : but the average may be 1.3
[2015-12-05 00:40:31] podizzler3k : and i wouldnt say maintaining a blockchain is not cheap
[2015-12-05 00:40:35] podizzler3k : theres plenty that are cheap
[2015-12-05 00:40:56] sleger : No the average is exactly one block every 10 min, and the current price is 363-363
[2015-12-05 00:41:37] podizzler3k : the amount mined per day definitely fluctuates
[2015-12-05 00:42:20] sleger : yes but difficulty adjusts to get one block every 10min on average
[2015-12-05 00:50:36] podizzler3k : historically the last 4 quarters before halving periods have been 9% fast
[2015-12-05 00:51:28] podizzler3k : so we're probably more like one block every 9 minutes
[2015-12-05 00:51:29] podizzler3k : atm
[2015-12-05 00:52:32] habibi : https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty
[2015-12-05 00:52:41] habibi : 1 block: 9.3 minutes
[2015-12-05 00:54:23] podizzler3k : :D
[2015-12-05 00:55:01] podizzler3k : should have bougth that dip
[2015-12-05 00:55:05] podizzler3k : was too busy doing mad maths
[2015-12-05 00:55:20] podizzler3k : its hard being a genius
[2015-12-05 00:55:34] podizzler3k : constantly numbers floating around in my head. like 1, and 3.... for instance