This is a mirror of the original BitMEX trollbox archive that used to be online here.
BitMEX disabled their archive after the DDOS attack so I have decided to make my mirror publicly available.

Well now, a few days after I made this mirror available to the public, the original archive from BitMEX is online again.
But since it is still limited (neutered to the last few hundred messages) I will keep my FULL mirror alive.

You have access to more than 50 million trollbox posts. This is more than 7 gigabyte of data hosted on a $5 server so please be patient or consider a donation

<<  >>  English  中文  Русский  한국어  日本語  Español  Français 
[2024-05-10 17:45:48] rxr : eth is the biggest alt coin
[2024-05-10 17:45:52] rxr : so when SEC nukes ETH
[2024-05-10 17:45:55] rxr : it will crash entire alt market
[2024-05-10 17:46:00] Joeyy132 : jjhiijiji: fk u entered 63
[2024-05-10 17:46:02] ilPanino : Joeyy132: well it keeps coming in and cancel new orders all the time, but at this moment in time, its the total sum in orderbooks on the buy side that is the market cap.
[2024-05-10 17:46:04] Joeyy132 : seriosu
[2024-05-10 17:46:15] jjhiijiji : Joeyy132: man dont u remember the posi showed u this morning
[2024-05-10 17:46:17] jjhiijiji : before the crash
[2024-05-10 17:46:19] jjhiijiji : its still open
[2024-05-10 17:46:21] jjhiijiji : lol
[2024-05-10 17:46:37] Joeyy132 : jjhiijiji: I don’t remember exactly I was working not full attention
[2024-05-10 17:46:46] jjhiijiji : Joeyy132: big pos
[2024-05-10 17:47:00] Joeyy132 : Fk man we were at 63.4 I rmemeber that much
[2024-05-10 17:47:04] jjhiijiji : quite a big loss if i close
[2024-05-10 17:47:06] Joeyy132 : u didn’t even close a little at be?
[2024-05-10 17:47:19] jjhiijiji : no i fcked up
[2024-05-10 17:47:20] PeacenLuv : https://www.tradingview.com/x/h0OfWgeA/ btfd btc 12hr watch ao n vol fhukprice now
[2024-05-10 17:47:38] jjhiijiji : i just hedged and made around 1/3 of what i lost so far (or would have lost if i close now)
[2024-05-10 17:47:40] PeacenLuv : umm who fhukeen cares if the earth is flat anyhow wtf?
[2024-05-10 17:47:40] ilPanino : we actually had a discussion about letting positions going into red at the same time.
[2024-05-10 17:47:43] Joeyy132 : Fk
[2024-05-10 17:48:05] jjhiijiji : u wanna see how fcked up it is? ;p
[2024-05-10 17:48:12] jjhiijiji : /position btcusdt ``` :bitmex: XBTUSDT: 1 XBT @ 62978.176 ```
[2024-05-10 17:48:16] jjhiijiji : :kek:
[2024-05-10 17:48:19] Joeyy132 : naybe u can get out at 62? I feel like if it goes back to your entry again it’s probably going to pump higher. But might try 62 and die
[2024-05-10 17:48:20] contract details : 💀
[2024-05-10 17:48:34] Joeyy132 : jjhiijiji:
[2024-05-10 17:48:44] jjhiijiji : :(
[2024-05-10 17:48:46] Joeyy132 : A whole one lol
[2024-05-10 17:48:46] jjhiijiji : oh well
[2024-05-10 17:48:47] Joeyy132 : nicw
[2024-05-10 17:48:54] ilPanino : This market rarely gives 2 chances to get out in profit or small loss.
[2024-05-10 17:49:09] Joeyy132 : Should be safe if ur liq is below 50
[2024-05-10 17:49:18] Joeyy132 : proabklu 58 gonna bounce
[2024-05-10 17:49:18] jjhiijiji : yeah
[2024-05-10 17:49:22] ilPanino : if it gives 2 chances its gonna go so much higher.
[2024-05-10 17:49:32] jjhiijiji : i wont close it if we go back there for sure
[2024-05-10 17:49:33] Joeyy132 : ilPanino: true
[2024-05-10 17:50:31] jjhiijiji : just gonna let it ride
[2024-05-10 17:50:38] ilPanino : sometimes it is almost like market makers knows what they are doing.
[2024-05-10 17:50:58] ilPanino : lets see if my playroom for my SL is enough, they are coming for me now.
[2024-05-10 17:51:19] jjhiijiji : or i could close here like 2500 loss, but i already made 1k on this trade and aroound 600 from short hedges
[2024-05-10 17:51:25] jjhiijiji : so it i close now i dont actually lose that much
[2024-05-10 17:51:32] jjhiijiji : /pnl btcusdt ``` :bitmex: XBTUSDT: 905.28 USDT RPNL, -2,676.73 USDT UPNL ```
[2024-05-10 17:51:33] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 17700 USD @ 60222
[2024-05-10 17:51:37] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated long on `XBTUSDT`: Sell 0.0040 XBT @ 60225.4 ($240.87) - 🐳
[2024-05-10 17:51:54] jjhiijiji : if i close now i probably lose around 1k total
[2024-05-10 17:51:57] jjhiijiji : not too bad
[2024-05-10 17:52:22] Joeyy132 : ilPanino: they just let the orders build up. Then make the switch
[2024-05-10 17:52:45] ilPanino : Joeyy132: hahaha, yea im playing with fire here.
[2024-05-10 17:53:14] Joeyy132 : I like playing with fire
[2024-05-10 17:53:19] Joeyy132 : Always have
[2024-05-10 17:53:34] jjhiijiji : 100MA on daily shouldnt be nothing ;/ if this doesnt bounce ill be extremely dissappointed
[2024-05-10 17:53:50] PunkJunk : 🚀🚀🚀™️🚀🚀🚀™️🚀🚀🚀™️
[2024-05-10 17:53:57] ilPanino : i dont use the 100 ma.
[2024-05-10 17:54:17] blaster33 : that was so weak to the upside, i hoped to get my shorts filled up to 68k
[2024-05-10 17:54:43] jjhiijiji : ilPanino: is it the 200 on the 12h were just above then?
[2024-05-10 17:54:44] ilPanino : yeah i was also looking at the 67k zone for possible TP and then short.
[2024-05-10 17:55:13] ilPanino : jjhiijiji: yes it is
[2024-05-10 17:55:19] KeepItSimple : could bounce at 59k
[2024-05-10 17:55:20] KeepItSimple : https://www.tradingview.com/x/TwKKnUVm/
[2024-05-10 17:55:20] Joeyy132 : After this drop nothing is worth shorting. It’s up only once this drop is done. There is 0% chance we don’t hit 73k again
[2024-05-10 17:55:25] ilPanino : which would translate into 100 daily. :kek:
[2024-05-10 17:55:33] jjhiijiji : ah yeah
[2024-05-10 17:55:35] jjhiijiji : lol
[2024-05-10 17:55:52] jjhiijiji : so you do use the 100s ;)
[2024-05-10 17:56:01] blaster33 : ilPanino: ye i had shorts laddered between 65.5 and 68, atleast i got 1 filled :arthur:
[2024-05-10 17:56:07] PeacenLuv : you peeps see ronnees aktion?
[2024-05-10 17:56:07] PeacenLuv : shud be yurz
[2024-05-10 17:56:08] ilPanino : indirectly, but not for the timeframe i look at.
[2024-05-10 17:56:15] PeacenLuv : buy everyyy dipp
[2024-05-10 17:56:33] jjhiijiji : im seriously pondering to close my long but i feel ret4rded cause were right at the bottom of the bloody channel lol
[2024-05-10 17:56:49] jjhiijiji : all this fckin doom and bloom got be worried
[2024-05-10 17:56:54] jjhiijiji : gloom*
[2024-05-10 17:57:11] Joeyy132 : jjhiijiji: pray for another fake bounce here you will probably get one
[2024-05-10 17:57:11] PeacenLuv : i may trade ronnee indikator longz btc in future system ill adopt iut at least
[2024-05-10 17:57:26] PeacenLuv : hes on it
[2024-05-10 17:57:32] Joeyy132 : Back to 62k area
[2024-05-10 17:57:47] Joeyy132 : Then quickly to 58
[2024-05-10 17:58:01] PeacenLuv : btc 77k 88k
[2024-05-10 17:58:21] PeacenLuv : heyy its flyday usd feds cmon everyonez on base
[2024-05-10 17:58:42] Joeyy132 : After the blow off it’s gonna bearmarket next 10 years
[2024-05-10 17:59:04] PeacenLuv : munneez made to spend load btc like
[2024-05-10 17:59:17] jjhiijiji : a bounce here would be way too bullish for me to close at 62k
[2024-05-10 17:59:31] Joeyy132 : jjhiijiji: if it rejects at 62
[2024-05-10 17:59:48] Joeyy132 : You can get out then
[2024-05-10 17:59:54] jjhiijiji : if there a clear rejection ill consider it yeah
[2024-05-10 17:59:55] PeacenLuv : with bearz itz like sanity vs motives both in same boat not mine
[2024-05-10 18:00:07] jjhiijiji : but we might just drop from here
[2024-05-10 18:00:07] jjhiijiji : ;/
[2024-05-10 18:00:58] jjhiijiji : another option is closing like 1/3 of the pos and losing the 900 profit ive already realize
[2024-05-10 18:01:10] jjhiijiji : and maybe average out lower
[2024-05-10 18:01:42] jjhiijiji : its a bit sh!t here though cause wee literally at the fckin bottom that might hold
[2024-05-10 18:01:53] ilPanino : jjhiijiji: 618 of the pump is slightly below us...
[2024-05-10 18:02:07] jjhiijiji : ilPanino: yeah
[2024-05-10 18:02:15] ilPanino : 59940
[2024-05-10 18:02:26] jjhiijiji : so feels a bit silly to close here
[2024-05-10 18:02:32] ilPanino : but its a zone so its wide.
[2024-05-10 18:03:16] ilPanino : pretending to bounce from slightly above it is a bull trap in the lows.
[2024-05-10 18:03:58] ilPanino : i just closed my long, i cannot just sit here and slowly die, i need to make foods. :)
[2024-05-10 18:04:04] Joeyy132 : jjhiijiji: My guys telling me fake bounce here so I think you’re ok for now
[2024-05-10 18:04:04] ilPanino : now it can bounce in peace.
[2024-05-10 18:04:17] Joeyy132 : *guts
[2024-05-10 18:04:22] ilPanino : no panino to hunt anymore.
[2024-05-10 18:04:36] Joeyy132 : I just closed my shirt
[2024-05-10 18:04:54] ilPanino : good idea, hide those manboobs pls.
[2024-05-10 18:05:00] jjhiijiji : :ppp
[2024-05-10 18:05:06] Joeyy132 : ilPanino: what the fkkk
[2024-05-10 18:05:17] Joeyy132 : U got eyes on me?
[2024-05-10 18:05:24] jjhiijiji : well u did have ur shirt open
[2024-05-10 18:05:26] ilPanino : Joeyy132: :kek:
[2024-05-10 18:05:27] jjhiijiji : ;<
[2024-05-10 18:05:57] Joeyy132 : Siting in garrdem with ma pecs out innit
[2024-05-10 18:05:58] ilPanino : the difference a tiny letter in a word can do.
[2024-05-10 18:06:18] Joeyy132 : It’s nice and sunny in london
[2024-05-10 18:06:21] Joeyy132 : niracle
[2024-05-10 18:07:00] jjhiijiji : landan
[2024-05-10 18:07:01] ilPanino : see, seee, this is what happens when panino chickens out!
[2024-05-10 18:07:14] ilPanino : fomo in and chicken out never a good combo.
[2024-05-10 18:07:33] Joeyy132 : ilPanino: never
[2024-05-10 18:07:48] jjhiijiji : if we pamp to 69k im giving joey 20 dollars
[2024-05-10 18:07:53] jjhiijiji : 😆😆😆
[2024-05-10 18:07:55] ilPanino : I am marking this in my calendar, i try to avoid these things to the maximum.
[2024-05-10 18:08:03] Joeyy132 : Lol we will but we are dumping now
[2024-05-10 18:08:07] ilPanino : I am a witness.
[2024-05-10 18:08:12] jjhiijiji : no no i mean if we pamp there before damp
[2024-05-10 18:08:31] Joeyy132 : after it rejects 61-62 or if it don’t get there 58 is a long time 73
[2024-05-10 18:08:49] Joeyy132 : 58to73
[2024-05-10 18:09:24] jjhiijiji : COME ON PAMP IT FOR ME LARRRY ILL LOVE YOU FOREVER
[2024-05-10 18:09:36] Joeyy132 : jjhiijiji: it will
[2024-05-10 18:09:42] jjhiijiji : ill tie joey up in a basement for you and you can have your way with him :( ill do anything
[2024-05-10 18:09:44] ilPanino : This is a good long scalp right here, but i wont take it because i chickened out on the previous one.
[2024-05-10 18:09:48] Joeyy132 : ig ur under 52k absolute worst scenario
[2024-05-10 18:09:51] Joeyy132 : ur good
[2024-05-10 18:10:03] jjhiijiji : the max i can lower my liq to is low 40s
[2024-05-10 18:10:11] Joeyy132 : Ur good
[2024-05-10 18:10:23] Joeyy132 : if it goes below 48 it’s toast
[2024-05-10 18:10:50] doublecheese : Joeyy132: nice store of value lol. Can't even break properly old ath.
[2024-05-10 18:10:50] jjhiijiji : come on baby fake pamp
[2024-05-10 18:10:52] jjhiijiji : FAKE PAMP DAMMIT
[2024-05-10 18:10:59] Joeyy132 : doublecheese: yup
[2024-05-10 18:11:04] doublecheese : Bitcoin is a joke at this point.
[2024-05-10 18:11:09] jjhiijiji : store of value? where?
[2024-05-10 18:11:10] Joeyy132 : uts not a store of value of course
[2024-05-10 18:11:13] jjhiijiji : bitcoin was never meant to be a store of value
[2024-05-10 18:11:20] jjhiijiji : anyone who said that is ret4rded
[2024-05-10 18:11:21] contract details : you guy store value in currencies?
[2024-05-10 18:11:25] doublecheese : A totally and completely failed experiment.
[2024-05-10 18:11:35] jjhiijiji : failed experiment with over a trillion market cap
[2024-05-10 18:11:35] jjhiijiji : nice
[2024-05-10 18:11:51] jjhiijiji : salty twats
[2024-05-10 18:12:18] doublecheese : jjhiijiji: @contract details so bitcoin is money again? Lmao. Totally makes sense to take hours to complete a transaction. Not to mention the transaction fees. Nice currency indeed.
[2024-05-10 18:12:25] Joeyy132 : It’s just a game to wash money back and forth trying to make more
[2024-05-10 18:12:25] jjhiijiji : doublecheese: who the fck said its money?
[2024-05-10 18:12:35] contract details : takes days to do a wire transfer :arthur:
[2024-05-10 18:12:39] jjhiijiji : doublecheese listen
[2024-05-10 18:12:45] jjhiijiji : just short it for us
[2024-05-10 18:12:46] jjhiijiji : please
[2024-05-10 18:12:50] jjhiijiji : right now
[2024-05-10 18:12:55] jjhiijiji : are you short?
[2024-05-10 18:13:02] doublecheese : jjhiijiji: not a store of value, not money, than what it is? A ponzi?.
[2024-05-10 18:13:03] Joeyy132 : doublecheese: don’t short
[2024-05-10 18:13:08] Joeyy132 : yet
[2024-05-10 18:13:15] jjhiijiji : shhh let him short so it can pamp dammit
[2024-05-10 18:13:19] doublecheese : jjhiijiji: out of position and will stay out of position.
[2024-05-10 18:13:41] ilPanino : doublecheese: But this is THE bottom you talked about yesterday, that you would buy from.
[2024-05-10 18:13:42] doublecheese : jjhiijiji: I am not stupid enough to short a bullmarket, sorry.
[2024-05-10 18:13:44] jjhiijiji : doublecheese on the fence again what a surprise
[2024-05-10 18:13:54] Joeyy132 : Look to short it a day or 2 after 73k
[2024-05-10 18:13:55] ilPanino : doublecheese: This is your entry to your own plan ffs.
[2024-05-10 18:14:07] Joeyy132 : and stay in that short forever
[2024-05-10 18:14:26] Joeyy132 : doublecheese: good thing it’s not a bullmarket
[2024-05-10 18:14:40] doublecheese : ilPanino: ema 100 may not hold based on this PA.
[2024-05-10 18:15:00] doublecheese : Besides, I am too risk averse right now after the losses of the last month.
[2024-05-10 18:15:02] ilPanino : doublecheese: You flip flop to much in your plans.
[2024-05-10 18:15:21] Joeyy132 : PA looks very ugly right jow
[2024-05-10 18:15:27] jjhiijiji : ugly as fck
[2024-05-10 18:15:29] ilPanino : yeah its ugly af.
[2024-05-10 18:15:30] jjhiijiji : just like before every pump
[2024-05-10 18:15:32] Joeyy132 : so it’s a “long the fake bounce” situation
[2024-05-10 18:15:43] doublecheese : contract details: lol Bitcoin has 7 transactions per seconds. It will never scale and never be adopted globally.
[2024-05-10 18:15:58] doublecheese : ilPanino: that is correct that I flip flop.
[2024-05-10 18:16:00] jjhiijiji : do you really think larry gives a sh!t
[2024-05-10 18:16:14] ilPanino : doublecheese: how can you write this and be "bullish"? Youre the biggest bear in here sir.
[2024-05-10 18:16:22] jjhiijiji : larry doesnt ggive 2 sh!ts about transaction speeds all he cares about is making money off bitcoin trading
[2024-05-10 18:16:26] Joeyy132 : doublecheese: bitcoin is just a money laundering tool and a game to play with price that all use it for what it is
[2024-05-10 18:16:43] doublecheese : ilPanino: lol just because something is a ponzi doesn't mean it will go down LOL.
[2024-05-10 18:17:02] jjhiijiji : doublecheese looking at transaction speeds and store of value bs as if its still 2017
[2024-05-10 18:17:08] ilPanino : doublecheese: but you are so negative that you inner belief tells you it will go lower.
[2024-05-10 18:17:09] Joeyy132 : Because it’s the best ponzi ever
[2024-05-10 18:17:10] "it will be........" : .
[2024-05-10 18:17:21] ilPanino : doublecheese: You refuse to follow your own plans.
[2024-05-10 18:17:21] Joeyy132 : "it will be........": I love u
[2024-05-10 18:17:28] "it will be........" : Bitcoin is a tool and so is Britcoin
[2024-05-10 18:17:34] jjhiijiji : true
[2024-05-10 18:17:35] Joeyy132 : "it will be........": lol
[2024-05-10 18:17:41] Joeyy132 : where did that come from
[2024-05-10 18:17:41] ilPanino : "it will be........": lol
[2024-05-10 18:17:48] doublecheese : jjhiijiji: you know, those problems still aren't solved after 7 years. So yeah nothing changed since 2017.
[2024-05-10 18:17:52] "it will be........" : Joeyy132: Lol 🙏🏽❤️
[2024-05-10 18:17:57] jjhiijiji : doublecheese: you know whats changed since 2017
[2024-05-10 18:18:02] Vladimir.Putin : look bottom? div 4h
[2024-05-10 18:18:02] jjhiijiji : the price is like 10x higher or more
[2024-05-10 18:18:10] jjhiijiji : even if it wasnt solved
[2024-05-10 18:18:12] jjhiijiji : what does that tell you
[2024-05-10 18:18:19] jjhiijiji : nooen gives 2 fckin sh!tys abt transaction speed
[2024-05-10 18:18:22] jjhiijiji : it can still go up and down
[2024-05-10 18:18:23] doublecheese : jjhiijiji: only price. No utility. No technology. Nothing else, only price.
[2024-05-10 18:18:28] jjhiijiji : dude
[2024-05-10 18:18:30] jjhiijiji : JUST SHORT IT THEN
[2024-05-10 18:18:33] ilPanino : Gimme a higher high on 5 minute and I will be longing the retest, again. Just to prove a point.
[2024-05-10 18:18:35] jjhiijiji : u fckin twat jesus\
[2024-05-10 18:18:46] jjhiijiji : if ur so fckin negative what are u doing fckin waiting fgor a long
[2024-05-10 18:18:50] jjhiijiji : SHORT IT TO THE GROUND
[2024-05-10 18:19:08] doublecheese : jjhiijiji: Again, just because something is a scam doesn't mean price will go down. I am looking for a long.
[2024-05-10 18:19:13] jjhiijiji : exactly
[2024-05-10 18:19:15] jjhiijiji : whats wqhat im saying
[2024-05-10 18:19:20] jjhiijiji : nooen gives a sh1t abt the stuff ur talking abt
[2024-05-10 18:19:24] jjhiijiji : utility, transaction speed
[2024-05-10 18:19:28] jjhiijiji : everyone just wants to speculate
[2024-05-10 18:19:30] jjhiijiji : make money
[2024-05-10 18:19:33] jjhiijiji : and some using it for dodgy sh!t
[2024-05-10 18:19:34] jjhiijiji : thats it
[2024-05-10 18:19:40] jjhiijiji : dont fuss over the other stuff
[2024-05-10 18:19:43] jjhiijiji : its irrelevant
[2024-05-10 18:19:50] Vladimir.Putin : go long usd
[2024-05-10 18:19:54] ilPanino : If you think price will go down, you short it. if you think price will go up, you long it.
[2024-05-10 18:19:59] ilPanino : Its not rocket science. :)
[2024-05-10 18:20:15] jjhiijiji : please doublecheese just fckin short it so we can pump ffs
[2024-05-10 18:20:20] jjhiijiji : its all up to you\
[2024-05-10 18:20:47] doublecheese : jjhiijiji: I appreciate at least someone says it, only thing people care about is FIAT price. Even the hodlers.
[2024-05-10 18:21:15] Vladimir.Putin : is this potential bart pattern ? long time no see bart pattern
[2024-05-10 18:21:15] doublecheese : jjhiijiji: won't short, won't long until I figure this out. Looking for a long tho.
[2024-05-10 18:21:27] jjhiijiji : doublecheese: ur looking for a long right at the bottom of a massive channel
[2024-05-10 18:21:28] ilPanino : Nah i dont care about price at all, i care about movement, direction of where price will move and %.
[2024-05-10 18:21:28] jjhiijiji : ?
[2024-05-10 18:21:35] KeepItSimple : doublecheese: then buy spot
[2024-05-10 18:22:16] Joeyy132 : This is about to go to 0
[2024-05-10 18:22:32] Joeyy132 : 😭
[2024-05-10 18:22:35] ilPanino : bears are really trying to slow grind this further down.
[2024-05-10 18:23:14] KeepItSimple : so there are two scenarios
[2024-05-10 18:23:16] ilPanino : 30 min stoch is flat, rsi signals oversold for the last 4 hours, what more confluences do you need @doublecheese
[2024-05-10 18:23:31] KeepItSimple : 1 its a hype cycle and will go down
[2024-05-10 18:23:51] KeepItSimple : 2. its just warming up and will moon
[2024-05-10 18:23:54] ilPanino : 618 is right below us as well lower timeframes printing bull divs while hovering above it.
[2024-05-10 18:24:10] KeepItSimple : *2
[2024-05-10 18:24:22] doublecheese : ilPanino: so you're longing this?
[2024-05-10 18:24:29] jjhiijiji : this is either the bottom or the beginning of dump v2
[2024-05-10 18:24:30] ilPanino : longing here and a SL at 60050, tada.
[2024-05-10 18:24:38] jjhiijiji : its more likely that we are at the bottom
[2024-05-10 18:24:48] jjhiijiji : because trend is more likely to continue than break
[2024-05-10 18:24:50] jjhiijiji : always
[2024-05-10 18:25:00] jjhiijiji : if it does break its fucked though
[2024-05-10 18:25:03] contract details : oh but when it breaks... :pepe:
[2024-05-10 18:25:07] ilPanino : doublecheese: a possible bottom long is suppose to feel terrible terrible terrible.
[2024-05-10 18:25:20] ilPanino : and if my SL is hot, fine, so be it.
[2024-05-10 18:25:24] ilPanino : hit*
[2024-05-10 18:26:08] doublecheese : ilPanino: it's been a month I am hitting SL. I am tired of it :)
[2024-05-10 18:26:09] ilPanino : now I wrote my plan in text, if course they will hunt me again. :pepe:
[2024-05-10 18:26:32] ilPanino : doublecheese: then those trades was just not ment to be, but i also know you have been alot in green and refdused to take profits.
[2024-05-10 18:27:29] ilPanino : IF this is now a true downtrend, expect lower highs and take profit at those, do NOT expect the highs to be broken.
[2024-05-10 18:27:36] doublecheese : ilPanino: yeah that is true. But this happened because of choppiness, not easy to take profits during chops.
[2024-05-10 18:27:49] ilPanino : There has been no choppiness at all.
[2024-05-10 18:28:20] jjhiijiji : sh!t boys
[2024-05-10 18:28:23] jjhiijiji : dump coming
[2024-05-10 18:28:30] ilPanino : It has pumped into resistance, tried to break it failed.
[2024-05-10 18:28:36] jjhiijiji : get ready
[2024-05-10 18:28:39] ilPanino : nothing choppy about it.
[2024-05-10 18:29:53] jjhiijiji : fck if i close my long now i dont get my free pizza cause im probably off the leader board :(
[2024-05-10 18:30:11] jjhiijiji : i think ill just keep it open
[2024-05-10 18:30:22] ilPanino : jjhiijiji: they will deliver the pizza to your house? from seychelles? It will be cold on arrival sir.
[2024-05-10 18:30:33] jjhiijiji : ilPanino: it says pizza for 10 people
[2024-05-10 18:30:38] jjhiijiji : wherever you are
[2024-05-10 18:30:44] ilPanino : thats one big cold pizza sir.
[2024-05-10 18:30:51] jjhiijiji : ahahah
[2024-05-10 18:30:56] jjhiijiji : i actually like cold pizza
[2024-05-10 18:31:01] jjhiijiji : i usually eat it right out of the fridge
[2024-05-10 18:31:03] jjhiijiji : smth nice about it
[2024-05-10 18:31:05] ilPanino : yeah me to. :)
[2024-05-10 18:31:27] ilPanino : But i want to eat the first pieces warm tho, and chill the leftovers.
[2024-05-10 18:31:32] jjhiijiji : yeah same
[2024-05-10 18:31:35] jjhiijiji : when it just comes hot is nice
[2024-05-10 18:31:42] jjhiijiji : and then leftovers cold i dont heat up cause i like it
[2024-05-10 18:31:47] contract details : true monsters :pepe:
[2024-05-10 18:31:56] contract details : pizza out of the fridge 😭
[2024-05-10 18:32:12] ilPanino : It would be very hard for bitmex to deliver me pizza, there is no one to deliver here lol.
[2024-05-10 18:32:13] jjhiijiji : only true G's eat pizza out of the fridge
[2024-05-10 18:32:16] Vladimir.Putin : Bart please come
[2024-05-10 18:32:34] jjhiijiji : come on bart save putin
[2024-05-10 18:33:04] doublecheese : ilPanino: next time I open I wanna go allin long, but I may have to wait some months. I am looking to catch the next leg up, can't win during corrections.
[2024-05-10 18:33:05] ilPanino : contract details: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9dAHrWzQP8 nom nom nom sir
[2024-05-10 18:33:31] jjhiijiji : wait some months lel
[2024-05-10 18:33:34] bluemaster : Buenos Dias Muchachos 😁
[2024-05-10 18:33:38] jjhiijiji : were gna be 120k and doublecheese gna be saying
[2024-05-10 18:33:42] jjhiijiji : 'im thinking of longing now'
[2024-05-10 18:33:49] jjhiijiji : but im gonna wait till im sure dump is over
[2024-05-10 18:33:57] jjhiijiji : :kek:
[2024-05-10 18:34:01] ilPanino : doublecheese: never ever go all in long sir.
[2024-05-10 18:34:09] doublecheese : jjhiijiji: Don't worry we are not going 120k tomorrow.
[2024-05-10 18:34:14] jjhiijiji : doublecheese: you said months
[2024-05-10 18:34:19] ilPanino : I will strongly advice against going all in.
[2024-05-10 18:34:41] jjhiijiji : COME ON BABY FAKE PAMP
[2024-05-10 18:34:43] jjhiijiji : PRIZ
[2024-05-10 18:35:03] jjhiijiji : ilPanino: i still got that 100x long open ;p
[2024-05-10 18:35:12] jjhiijiji : /position btcusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: 15,000 USD @ 60469 ```
[2024-05-10 18:35:15] doublecheese : jjhiijiji: you think we'll break ath this month?
[2024-05-10 18:35:21] jjhiijiji : doublecheese: no
[2024-05-10 18:35:26] jjhiijiji : doublecheese: months though...
[2024-05-10 18:35:26] ilPanino : jjhiijiji: you reentered?
[2024-05-10 18:35:28] jjhiijiji : plural
[2024-05-10 18:35:35] jjhiijiji : ilPanino: no this is a different pos
[2024-05-10 18:35:39] jjhiijiji : ilPanino: on btcusd
[2024-05-10 18:35:43] ilPanino : oh, im confused. :)
[2024-05-10 18:35:43] jjhiijiji : the big one is btcusdt
[2024-05-10 18:35:48] ilPanino : ahhh i see.
[2024-05-10 18:36:02] jjhiijiji : i thought i might as well go double ret4rd
[2024-05-10 18:36:08] jjhiijiji : since im being ret4rded already
[2024-05-10 18:36:20] ilPanino : I wanna make me a banana, tuna, curry, pineapple and peanut pizza.
[2024-05-10 18:36:28] jjhiijiji : jeeeeeeeeeesus
[2024-05-10 18:36:42] jjhiijiji : thats very.. artistic of you
[2024-05-10 18:36:54] doublecheese : Another option is opening a low lev long and increase it over time. This way I won't feel fomo.
[2024-05-10 18:36:56] ilPanino : jjhiijiji: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiVl2Kk7WuY it is a thing, very yummy
[2024-05-10 18:37:01] doublecheese : Long term strategy.
[2024-05-10 18:37:19] jjhiijiji : doublecheese: im 90% sure that in 2025 - 2026 you will see a megapamp like never before not only in btc but markets generally
[2024-05-10 18:37:34] jjhiijiji : fed is already lowering QT
[2024-05-10 18:37:42] jjhiijiji : QE delayed cause of all the sh!t and inflation
[2024-05-10 18:37:43] jjhiijiji : but its coming
[2024-05-10 18:37:47] jjhiijiji : and when it comes
[2024-05-10 18:37:50] jjhiijiji : and printer goes brrrrrrr
[2024-05-10 18:37:51] doublecheese : jjhiijiji: I agree about this, but only 2024-2025, don't think 2026.
[2024-05-10 18:37:55] jjhiijiji : your gonna see a mega pamp
[2024-05-10 18:37:57] ilPanino : Our central bank cut rates this week with -0.25%
[2024-05-10 18:38:09] jjhiijiji : all over the world are cutting rates now slowly
[2024-05-10 18:38:11] jjhiijiji : except US
[2024-05-10 18:38:14] jjhiijiji : which they will eventually
[2024-05-10 18:38:17] jjhiijiji : were at 5.25% rates now
[2024-05-10 18:38:21] jjhiijiji : IMAGINE WHEN WERE AT FCKIN 2% or lowerr
[2024-05-10 18:38:25] jjhiijiji : thats going to be mega pamp
[2024-05-10 18:38:42] jjhiijiji : btc will probably be over 120k by then
[2024-05-10 18:38:46] ilPanino : We have 3,75% here.
[2024-05-10 18:38:55] jjhiijiji : i meant US is at 5.25
[2024-05-10 18:39:04] jjhiijiji : imagine a few years ago we were at 0.2% and less
[2024-05-10 18:39:06] jjhiijiji : ;///
[2024-05-10 18:39:16] jjhiijiji : what the actual fck
[2024-05-10 18:39:34] jjhiijiji : bank was basically saying - here take some free money
[2024-05-10 18:39:37] ilPanino : During 2 years we had -0.25% and during a period of those years we hit -0.5%
[2024-05-10 18:39:57] ilPanino : it was super cheap to borrow money, and those people are now paying the price.
[2024-05-10 18:40:01] jjhiijiji : insane
[2024-05-10 18:40:14] jjhiijiji : well not the ones that took fixed interest long term loans
[2024-05-10 18:40:23] jjhiijiji : in US majority of loans are long term fixed interest
[2024-05-10 18:40:34] jjhiijiji : only people paying are the ones that didnt get proper deals
[2024-05-10 18:40:45] ilPanino : no, they got buttfrucked for real, i had an old friend that locked his rates for 12 years at 7%...
[2024-05-10 18:40:52] jjhiijiji : LOL
[2024-05-10 18:40:58] ilPanino : he got out of the deal last year.
[2024-05-10 18:41:15] jjhiijiji : but dude why i dont get it
[2024-05-10 18:41:24] jjhiijiji : why didnt he refinance his lown with a new one using a lower rate
[2024-05-10 18:41:29] jjhiijiji : rates were so low a few years ago
[2024-05-10 18:41:32] ilPanino : They want to "know how much to pay" month to month.
[2024-05-10 18:41:43] jjhiijiji : loan*
[2024-05-10 18:41:52] jjhiijiji : if u get trapped in a bad loan
[2024-05-10 18:41:58] jjhiijiji : and rates go down
[2024-05-10 18:42:06] jjhiijiji : u can refinance using a new loan to pay off the old one and pay the new rate ;/
[2024-05-10 18:42:07] ilPanino : jjhiijiji: In sweden you have to pay the difference of the rates if you cut them early, which means the bank would have gotten its money anyway.
[2024-05-10 18:42:08] jjhiijiji : this is common practise
[2024-05-10 18:42:15] jjhiijiji : oh whaaaat
[2024-05-10 18:42:16] jjhiijiji : dude
[2024-05-10 18:42:19] jjhiijiji : he cut a really bad deal
[2024-05-10 18:42:21] ilPanino : At least when it comes to mortgages.
[2024-05-10 18:42:22] jjhiijiji : they literally scammed him
[2024-05-10 18:42:37] jjhiijiji : pooor guy but seriously
[2024-05-10 18:42:40] jjhiijiji : he made a bad deal ;/
[2024-05-10 18:43:00] ilPanino : I have not had a loan for the last pffs, hmm, dont remember, almost 10 years. Not everyone is that lucky.
[2024-05-10 18:43:19] jjhiijiji : i try to avoid them also as much as possible
[2024-05-10 18:43:29] jjhiijiji : since i paid off my mortgages i never got another one again
[2024-05-10 18:43:36] jjhiijiji : and will try keep it that way
[2024-05-10 18:43:40] ilPanino : Good call, you live cheap then.
[2024-05-10 18:43:40] jjhiijiji : BUT
[2024-05-10 18:43:50] jjhiijiji : well
[2024-05-10 18:43:56] ilPanino : and can afford improvements of your house
[2024-05-10 18:43:56] jjhiijiji : not cheap but we have good income thats why
[2024-05-10 18:44:11] jjhiijiji : we have a few houses that were renting out in london (those are the mortgages that got paid off)
[2024-05-10 18:44:32] jjhiijiji : i got downpayments when the prices were lower (more than 50% lower than today) and the rates were relly low
[2024-05-10 18:44:39] jjhiijiji : now theyre paid off
[2024-05-10 18:44:40] ilPanino : Thats the reason why i can invest in all these off grid solutions, because i just dont have debt.
[2024-05-10 18:44:55] jjhiijiji : if loans become cheap again but i doubt they wil
[2024-05-10 18:44:57] jjhiijiji : like under 1%
[2024-05-10 18:45:11] jjhiijiji : i will take out a fckload of loans and pile them into stocks amd commodities and bonds
[2024-05-10 18:45:27] jjhiijiji : but now its just ret4rded to take out a loan
[2024-05-10 18:45:30] jjhiijiji : if u dont have to
[2024-05-10 18:46:00] jjhiijiji : on the other hand u have bonds at like 4.8%
[2024-05-10 18:46:10] jjhiijiji : so if u have enough to put into bonds
[2024-05-10 18:46:14] ilPanino : Just try to save some money, even with inflation, it piles up rather quick and once you invest, there will be no repayment.
[2024-05-10 18:46:26] jjhiijiji : that might be good
[2024-05-10 18:46:45] jjhiijiji : i never sit on cash
[2024-05-10 18:46:52] ilPanino : Having a pile of cash ready to go when opportunity hits, is never a bad idea.
[2024-05-10 18:46:57] jjhiijiji : if i save enough i just get another downpayment for a property
[2024-05-10 18:47:04] jjhiijiji : cash just devalues too much over time
[2024-05-10 18:47:12] jjhiijiji : u just lose money for no reason
[2024-05-10 18:47:37] ilPanino : True, but the investment you make will give that loss back plus more if you play it correctly.
[2024-05-10 18:47:46] jjhiijiji : yeah that doesnt count as cash
[2024-05-10 18:47:53] jjhiijiji : if u put it into an asset
[2024-05-10 18:47:54] jjhiijiji : with return
[2024-05-10 18:48:00] jjhiijiji : oh
[2024-05-10 18:48:01] jjhiijiji : u mean to sit on it
[2024-05-10 18:48:03] jjhiijiji : till the right moment
[2024-05-10 18:48:06] ilPanino : yeah exactly.
[2024-05-10 18:48:17] jjhiijiji : i see what ur saying yeah
[2024-05-10 18:48:22] jjhiijiji : i guess its good to keep a bit
[2024-05-10 18:48:27] jjhiijiji : but i wouldnt keep a lot personally
[2024-05-10 18:48:34] ilPanino : I try to always sit on a pile of cash just in case of anything, and let the rest of the money work.
[2024-05-10 18:48:45] jjhiijiji : i feel safer if its sitting in property
[2024-05-10 18:49:01] jjhiijiji : but yeah i see ur point small part of it in cash isnt a bad idea
[2024-05-10 18:49:10] jjhiijiji : not most of it though for sure
[2024-05-10 18:49:18] ilPanino : True, but once you need that money it will take time to liquidate the property to invest and by then the opportunty might be lost.
[2024-05-10 18:49:30] jjhiijiji : yeah
[2024-05-10 18:49:53] jjhiijiji : always a downside to everything
[2024-05-10 18:50:09] ilPanino : So why not play all sides, you cannot lose.
[2024-05-10 18:50:18] jjhiijiji : yeah for sure i agree to keep SOME lets say in cash
[2024-05-10 18:50:23] jjhiijiji : i just disagree with keeping a lot of it
[2024-05-10 18:50:25] jjhiijiji : % wise lets say
[2024-05-10 18:50:42] jjhiijiji : most of my holdings in property, some in stocks, some commodities, small part cash and some crypto
[2024-05-10 18:50:45] ilPanino : I might or might not sit on ~15% of my total in cash.
[2024-05-10 18:50:55] jjhiijiji : aah thats a really good amount yeah
[2024-05-10 18:51:13] jjhiijiji : i was thinking like ur holding most of it in cash thats why i was saying
[2024-05-10 18:51:33] ilPanino : oh no, i just have a pile ready to go if opportunites present themselves.
[2024-05-10 18:51:36] doublecheese : Lol if I had a pile of cash I wouldn't be margin trading right now.
[2024-05-10 18:51:37] jjhiijiji : yeah good idea
[2024-05-10 18:51:53] jjhiijiji : what would you be doing
[2024-05-10 18:51:58] jjhiijiji : ?
[2024-05-10 18:52:21] doublecheese : jjhiijiji: Investing in other markets and buying spot crypto (mainly btc).
[2024-05-10 18:52:34] jjhiijiji : doublecheese: a really good one is just straight up investing in major index
[2024-05-10 18:52:35] jjhiijiji : like nasdaq
[2024-05-10 18:52:46] jjhiijiji : really safe over the long term
[2024-05-10 18:52:51] ilPanino : I own a lot of forest, land and some real estate - for long term, i own gold, platinum and silver, just in case of anything, i have a little bit of stocks and some crypto.
[2024-05-10 18:52:51] doublecheese : But not trading probably, or only playing with tiny fraction of capital.
[2024-05-10 18:52:58] jjhiijiji : doublecheese: this is what im doing
[2024-05-10 18:53:00] contract details : everything is so high right now... it feels like investing into anything is throwing money until doom 50% index drops :pepe:
[2024-05-10 18:53:00] jjhiijiji : using a small fraction
[2024-05-10 18:53:05] jjhiijiji : to try and make a lot with it
[2024-05-10 18:53:09] jjhiijiji : and the rest sits somewhere safe
[2024-05-10 18:53:17] jjhiijiji : so i dont feel like a degen risking my familys wellbeing
[2024-05-10 18:53:28] ilPanino : oh you asked mr cheese. :)
[2024-05-10 18:53:30] jjhiijiji : i have a small amount that i can degen with, without being an idiot
[2024-05-10 18:53:44] jjhiijiji : ilPanino: it sounds like ur doing similar to me
[2024-05-10 18:53:46] jjhiijiji : but i dont have the forest
[2024-05-10 18:53:48] jjhiijiji : i would like to though
[2024-05-10 18:53:53] doublecheese : jjhiijiji: yep if I had money I would be doing that definitely. Spx also good.
[2024-05-10 18:53:56] jjhiijiji : ive always dreamed of having a big plot somewhere remote
[2024-05-10 18:54:05] jjhiijiji : maybe canada or smth
[2024-05-10 18:54:08] jjhiijiji : u can get HUUUUUGE plots
[2024-05-10 18:54:10] jjhiijiji : middle of nowhere
[2024-05-10 18:54:11] contract details : jjhiijiji: i'll sell you one with a granite house too :pepe:
[2024-05-10 18:54:12] ilPanino : crypto is the only one I actively trades, because its so volatile.
[2024-05-10 18:54:27] jjhiijiji : my cousin can go hunting in his own plot cause its so massive and it only cost him a fraction of one house in london
[2024-05-10 18:54:32] jjhiijiji : (in canada)
[2024-05-10 18:54:44] doublecheese : ilPanino: well you could be trading anything really, just with more leverage, you would get similar %.
[2024-05-10 18:54:46] jjhiijiji : contract details: in spain?
[2024-05-10 18:55:05] contract details : yes, lost in the middle of galicia so you enjoy the rain just like in london
[2024-05-10 18:55:08] ilPanino : doublecheese: why would I do that if I dont find it fun? :)
[2024-05-10 18:55:38] doublecheese : ilPanino: Idk but any market can give you high returns when using high lev.
[2024-05-10 18:55:48] jjhiijiji : contract details: why are you selling it? and how much u selling it for?
[2024-05-10 18:56:17] ilPanino : doublecheese: using high lev would not increase my position size, since it increases the risk significantly.
[2024-05-10 18:56:40] contract details : it's just sitting there, abandoned. No idea about how much honestly. It was more as a joke but :pepe:
[2024-05-10 18:56:54] contract details : Haven't been there in years
[2024-05-10 18:56:56] ilPanino : doublecheese: High lev just means a higher loan, and loans has to be repaid.
[2024-05-10 18:57:12] doublecheese : ilPanino: getting a 1% increase in forex or stocks with high lev is the same as getting 1% move low lev in crypto.
[2024-05-10 18:57:43] ilPanino : doublecheese: What is your point exactly?
[2024-05-10 18:58:15] doublecheese : ilPanino: that anything could be traded, in crypto you can make insane amounts with high lev but also lose all very quickly.
[2024-05-10 18:58:38] jjhiijiji : contract details: if i was gonna buy an isolated plot id go to some country with huge land where its dead cheap and with good game to hunt
[2024-05-10 18:58:40] jjhiijiji : like canada probably
[2024-05-10 18:58:42] ilPanino : Buying milk at the supermarket, adding 10% on top when selling is the same thing as 10x as well.
[2024-05-10 18:59:05] jjhiijiji : in spain there is not much game to hunt except birds and small game like rabbits right?
[2024-05-10 18:59:36] contract details : I don´t hunt but deer and boar are common game here
[2024-05-10 18:59:45] jjhiijiji : ah nice
[2024-05-10 18:59:56] scraps : long time no mex for me, but i'm back
[2024-05-10 18:59:58] contract details : In fact it´s infested with boars, they just roam around my house freely lol
[2024-05-10 19:00:02] jjhiijiji : sheeeeeeeyt
[2024-05-10 19:00:06] jjhiijiji : fckin eat some!
[2024-05-10 19:00:14] contract details : you hear them oink oink at night :kek:
[2024-05-10 19:00:21] scraps : anyone seen steve S around lately?
[2024-05-10 19:00:24] jjhiijiji : nice
[2024-05-10 19:00:37] jjhiijiji : im sure uf u slow cook that sh!t for like 8 hours wrapped in tinfoil
[2024-05-10 19:00:40] jjhiijiji : should be fckin DELICIOUS
[2024-05-10 19:01:04] contract details : boar cheeks are delocious when cooked right yes
[2024-05-10 19:01:04] jjhiijiji : panini probably has a better idea though
[2024-05-10 19:01:24] contract details : other parts not so much :pepe:
[2024-05-10 19:01:37] jjhiijiji : yeah it must be tough thats why i said slow cook it
[2024-05-10 19:01:39] jjhiijiji : make it really tender
[2024-05-10 19:01:44] jjhiijiji : have u evert tried
[2024-05-10 19:01:54] jjhiijiji : like 8 hours slow cook with some water splashed into the tinfoil wrapped
[2024-05-10 19:02:06] jjhiijiji : we go it with lamb and fck me its good
[2024-05-10 19:02:11] jjhiijiji : we do it*
[2024-05-10 19:02:19] contract details : i usually put them in the pressurized cooker and then just finish them in a dutch oven for an hour
[2024-05-10 19:02:39] jjhiijiji : aaah u know what ur doing my man
[2024-05-10 19:02:51] jjhiijiji : lel my 100x long worked
[2024-05-10 19:02:56] jjhiijiji : /position btcusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: 15,000 USD @ 60469 ```
[2024-05-10 19:03:16] jjhiijiji : tell me i got the bottom please
[2024-05-10 19:03:27] jjhiijiji : i want one of joeys fake pamps
[2024-05-10 19:03:51] contract details : also boar chorizo is 🔥
[2024-05-10 19:06:06] ilPanino : doublecheese: see, this could have been a nice long scalp. It might not go higher than this, but profit is profit.