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BitMEX disabled their archive after the DDOS attack so I have decided to make my mirror publicly available.

Well now, a few days after I made this mirror available to the public, the original archive from BitMEX is online again.
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[2017-05-01 19:42:08] Gr33d : 0.025 is bottom imo
[2017-05-01 19:42:20] Nutella : bottom for what
[2017-05-01 19:42:31] Gr33d : GNO
[2017-05-01 19:42:31] Actualiteit : Nutella: btc
[2017-05-01 19:42:34] Gr33d : lol
[2017-05-01 19:42:36] Nutella : NO THIS IS THE BOTTOM
[2017-05-01 19:42:41] Ugly_Old_Goat : I think they are thrown in trash and not flushed
[2017-05-01 19:42:55] Gr33d : Nutella: No bro, only 0.5% on exchanges so far...
[2017-05-01 19:42:59] lcj : sell btc！ now
[2017-05-01 19:43:00] Gr33d : More to come.
[2017-05-01 19:43:10] Ugly_Old_Goat : I have two beautiful ladies that change me
[2017-05-01 19:43:21] Nutella : Gr33d: its all on kraken, thats where it was deposited
[2017-05-01 19:43:31] thomaskikansha : 0.6 ETH worths .032 btc
[2017-05-01 19:43:33] Trade : 0.02 was ICO price roughly?
[2017-05-01 19:43:40] Nutella : most ppl that wanted to sell did already
[2017-05-01 19:43:50] Ugly_Old_Goat : Well, actually only one but sometimes I get luckuy and get changed at shift change
[2017-05-01 19:43:51] Ahhere : Nutella: so what is your advice on gno
[2017-05-01 19:44:09] rapidgains : 0.0237
[2017-05-01 19:44:09] Nutella : buy on kraken where its cheap
[2017-05-01 19:44:14] Ugly_Old_Goat : The both claim the ooze makes my thighs soft
[2017-05-01 19:44:15] Gr33d : Nutella: Panic sells brah
[2017-05-01 19:44:44] Actualiteit : Ugly_Old_Goat: This will be my endgame in life
[2017-05-01 19:44:47] Actualiteit : thank you
[2017-05-01 19:45:40] Ugly_Old_Goat : Actually its not and end game its more like and end blow out
[2017-05-01 19:45:51] Actualiteit : lol
[2017-05-01 19:46:30] thomaskikansha : gno got dumped so hard
[2017-05-01 19:46:57] Gr33d : Nutella: brah
[2017-05-01 19:47:02] Ugly_Old_Goat : Lookd like lots of new buyers don't mind paying short
[2017-05-01 19:47:10] Gr33d : Nutella: A single large holder could wipe out kraken books.
[2017-05-01 19:47:24] Nutella : so? its not on leverage
[2017-05-01 19:47:32] Nutella : let him, i have low bids
[2017-05-01 19:47:43] Nutella : I would love that
[2017-05-01 19:48:07] Ugly_Old_Goat : I will get paid and hopefully be able to sell more perp higher
[2017-05-01 19:48:35] Nutella : bitmex lost lot of business with this limits nonsense
[2017-05-01 19:48:43] Nutella : to kraken, polo etc
[2017-05-01 19:49:00] Ugly_Old_Goat : Nutella: Not so, the volume in Gno is nothing
[2017-05-01 19:49:24] Ugly_Old_Goat : Its silly trade anything but btc here
[2017-05-01 19:49:32] Ugly_Old_Goat : Other markets too thing
[2017-05-01 19:49:33] Gr33d : wot
[2017-05-01 19:50:01] rugu : Ugly_Old_Goat: true but %change in btc isn't much on a daily basis compared to the other alts
[2017-05-01 19:50:03] Ugly_Old_Goat : Even June btc gets thin with extreme skips
[2017-05-01 19:50:26] Ugly_Old_Goat : rugu: Plenty for me
[2017-05-01 19:50:36] lrs13 : Nutella: You can short/long gnosis on kraken??
[2017-05-01 19:51:13] Nutella : well u can't short gno on kraken, so u figure it out
[2017-05-01 19:52:35] rugu : whats the API limit on this?
[2017-05-01 19:53:01] Nutella : looks stable at 0.04 now
[2017-05-01 19:53:03] Nutella : where is polo
[2017-05-01 19:53:34] thomaskikansha : .036
[2017-05-01 19:53:55] rugu : @bitmex what is the api request limit?
[2017-05-01 19:54:02] Poo : Ugly_Old_Goat: you are very wise
[2017-05-01 19:54:07] Nutella : 7 mins
[2017-05-01 19:54:15] Nutella : get ready to play bitmex game
[2017-05-01 19:54:26] Nutella : who has the fast fingers
[2017-05-01 19:54:48] Godson_Mansa : Nutella: how do check the time ?
[2017-05-01 19:55:09] zqooN : at least there are no rekts waiting in line atm
[2017-05-01 19:55:21] zqooN : Godson_Mansa: he looks at a clock
[2017-05-01 19:55:38] Poo : /sentiment
[2017-05-01 19:55:41] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 51.24 / 48.77 Daily : 40.24 / 59.77 Weekly : 45.83 / 54.17 Monthly : 45.83 / 54.17```
[2017-05-01 19:55:42] Trade : lol @ Gno trading
[2017-05-01 19:55:42] Ugly_Old_Goat : pay day in 3 minutes, big one coming in 8 hours, the next one should be big also
[2017-05-01 19:55:43] Nutella : yes I have clock, am rich
[2017-05-01 19:55:55] Godson_Mansa : lol which clock ? when was the last limit ? @zqooN
[2017-05-01 19:56:05] KAHIR : you guys ready for the new margin calls
[2017-05-01 19:56:15] BitMoney : 4 Minutes..
[2017-05-01 19:56:16] zqooN : every two hours
[2017-05-01 19:56:26] Nutella : kraken and polo around 0.04 now guys
[2017-05-01 19:56:27] Trade : they should add a clock, lol
[2017-05-01 19:56:27] Godson_Mansa : zqooN: what time was the last one ?
[2017-05-01 19:56:42] zqooN : 117 min ago
[2017-05-01 19:56:48] thomaskikansha : Nutella: better r/r now?
[2017-05-01 19:57:13] Trade : it'll go limit down to 0.045942 ?
[2017-05-01 19:57:34] Nutella : yes, probably
[2017-05-01 19:57:42] Nutella : sell here buy on kraken if u can
[2017-05-01 19:57:54] Nutella : altho i suppose only bots will be able to
[2017-05-01 19:59:33] Nutella : 30 secs
[2017-05-01 19:59:36] rugu : how much more time
[2017-05-01 19:59:38] rugu : sure 30sec?
[2017-05-01 19:59:55] Nutella : 5 secs
[2017-05-01 20:00:00] Trade : Kaaaaaa.......
[2017-05-01 20:00:05] KAHIR : kek
[2017-05-01 20:00:08] REKT : Liquidated long on `GNOM17`: sell 20 @ 0.057628
[2017-05-01 20:00:08] REKT : Liquidated long on `GNOM17`: sell 3 @ 0.048183
[2017-05-01 20:00:08] REKT : Liquidated long on `GNOM17`: sell 4 @ 0.054423
[2017-05-01 20:00:08] REKT : Liquidated long on `GNOM17`: sell 10 @ 0.056001
[2017-05-01 20:00:08] REKT : Liquidated long on `GNOM17`: sell 3 @ 0.057711
[2017-05-01 20:00:08] REKT : Liquidated long on `GNOM17`: sell 179 @ 0.058030
[2017-05-01 20:00:08] REKT : Liquidated long on `GNOM17`: sell 116 @ 0.057095
[2017-05-01 20:00:08] REKT : Liquidated long on `GNOM17`: sell 4 @ 0.050189
[2017-05-01 20:00:11] Trade : Boom
[2017-05-01 20:00:22] Nutella : thanks bitmex
[2017-05-01 20:00:22] MikeHunt : poor gnomes
[2017-05-01 20:00:27] Nutella : what a stupid exchange
[2017-05-01 20:00:31] Actualiteit : gnomes be fallin
[2017-05-01 20:00:31] lrs13 : rekt
[2017-05-01 20:00:40] cg : wow
[2017-05-01 20:00:45] MikeHunt : 7hrs = money time
[2017-05-01 20:00:52] Farzad2 : HAHA
[2017-05-01 20:00:52] Farzad2 : hahaha
[2017-05-01 20:00:55] zqooN : lol bottom filled with rekts
[2017-05-01 20:01:05] Ugly_Old_Goat : Whoa, nice paydays coming to perp
[2017-05-01 20:01:08] Farzad2 : where is rapidtrades ?
[2017-05-01 20:01:17] MikeHunt : Farzad2: rektTrades?
[2017-05-01 20:01:26] Farzad2 : where is sledger ?
[2017-05-01 20:01:38] Farzad2 : they bought this scam coin
[2017-05-01 20:01:38] Farzad2 : LOL
[2017-05-01 20:01:47] Farzad2 : GET REKT NOOBS
[2017-05-01 20:02:17] aron : dump of btc coming soon?
[2017-05-01 20:02:33] Farzad2 : definitely in next 8 hours
[2017-05-01 20:02:38] aron : :)
[2017-05-01 20:02:41] Farzad2 : funding rate is so high
[2017-05-01 20:02:43] Ugly_Old_Goat : Each btc just got paid 2 next round 3. Thank you for your support
[2017-05-01 20:03:09] Ugly_Old_Goat : That is almost 3000 per year. Not a bad return
[2017-05-01 20:03:18] aron : farzad i bought btc 4 hours ago but i still did not get it
[2017-05-01 20:03:20] Trade : Polo says 1 more round of Limit Down action for poor Gnomes
[2017-05-01 20:03:40] Farzad2 : aron: bought ? u had to sell it !
[2017-05-01 20:03:55] aron : farzad not on this site
[2017-05-01 20:03:57] Farzad2 : Gnosis scam ! LOL
[2017-05-01 20:03:57] Nutella : anyone manged to beat the bots and sell?
[2017-05-01 20:04:04] aron : i mean i bought the btc
[2017-05-01 20:04:16] aron : the currency
[2017-05-01 20:04:20] aron : not derivaties
[2017-05-01 20:04:43] aron : why is it not confirmed yet?
[2017-05-01 20:04:59] aron : also farzad2 why should i have sold it when its going up up uo
[2017-05-01 20:05:08] Gr33d : Nutella: Could of if I had any spare bitcoin left, already sold at 0.07-0.09
[2017-05-01 20:05:22] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTM17`: buy 1000 @ 1462.5
[2017-05-01 20:06:33] Farzad2 : $12 premium on XBTUSD
[2017-05-01 20:06:38] Farzad2 : thanks for yyour money boys
[2017-05-01 20:06:43] hmmmYea : turbo turbo
[2017-05-01 20:07:36] cg : lol
[2017-05-01 20:07:48] cg : less than 4000 coins on finex until $6000
[2017-05-01 20:07:58] cg : in the order book
[2017-05-01 20:08:06] Farzad2 : just show me sledger
[2017-05-01 20:08:09] Farzad2 : that idiot
[2017-05-01 20:08:20] Farzad2 : who was advertising for Gnosis
[2017-05-01 20:08:22] Nutella : @sleger hi idiot
[2017-05-01 20:08:28] Nutella : he needs u
[2017-05-01 20:08:43] biz : 17,300 BTC short on Bitfinex right now
[2017-05-01 20:08:43] Farzad2 : and he says he is smart ! lol
[2017-05-01 20:09:07] Nutella : he's not
[2017-05-01 20:09:17] Nutella : he doesn't even own car
[2017-05-01 20:09:17] Tommy : The premium on LTCM17 is worrying.
[2017-05-01 20:09:19] Farzad2 : I dont think he can ever come online on chat
[2017-05-01 20:09:39] Farzad2 : his official name is "sledger the idiot"
[2017-05-01 20:09:45] Tommy : I really think longs should have enough margin to cover the difference of futures price to spot price.
[2017-05-01 20:09:58] Tommy : Otherwise they can just buy it as high as possible.
[2017-05-01 20:10:15] Nutella : good point
[2017-05-01 20:10:30] Nutella : but this is gambling house so not gonna happen
[2017-05-01 20:10:31] micmix : yesterday GNO longers were screaming for limits to be removed right away
[2017-05-01 20:10:35] aron : biz what do u mean by that
[2017-05-01 20:10:39] aron : biz 17k short
[2017-05-01 20:10:47] aron : price is 1400
[2017-05-01 20:10:59] aron : are u saying ure 17k short on 1467?
[2017-05-01 20:11:05] Farzad2 : micmix: yeah ! I wish bitmex had removed the limits
[2017-05-01 20:11:12] Farzad2 : so they can become more rekt ! lol
[2017-05-01 20:11:16] micmix : works both ways
[2017-05-01 20:11:16] Nutella : micmix: bitmex already lost the gno businesss to kraken
[2017-05-01 20:11:20] biz : traders on bitfinex borrowed 17,000 BTC to short
[2017-05-01 20:11:21] Farzad2 : fucking scam coin
[2017-05-01 20:11:24] Tommy : Even it's a casino, there is a systematic risk to the casino if this premium is not fixed.
[2017-05-01 20:11:34] biz : aron: so they have to buy 17,000 BTC to pay them back
[2017-05-01 20:12:07] Nutella : if u can sell at 0.045942 and buy on kraken at 0.04 u make $$$ and get to move away from the stupid limits
[2017-05-01 20:12:18] Tommy : Even I long LTC at 0.01225 at 20x, there is no way I can cover the 15% premium using my 5% margin.
[2017-05-01 20:12:22] Nutella : not easy with 79 gno waiting but possible
[2017-05-01 20:12:25] Tommy : This is not fair to all parties.
[2017-05-01 20:13:02] micmix : the only solution is to reduce leverage but it's not going to happen
[2017-05-01 20:13:29] Nutella : leverage is dangerously high here
[2017-05-01 20:13:51] Nutella : we are prolly some screw up from some grand bailin like finex
[2017-05-01 20:14:05] Tommy : This is not about reducing leverage, but that the premium/discount should be taken into consideration when calculating margin.
[2017-05-01 20:14:12] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTM17`: sell 7650 @ 1456.4
[2017-05-01 20:14:32] micmix : Tommy: premium/discount is a function of leverage
[2017-05-01 20:14:42] Nutella : and time
[2017-05-01 20:14:57] micmix : yes, and time component on futures
[2017-05-01 20:15:16] Nutella : no way gno will stay this low, not even 2x ICO
[2017-05-01 20:15:35] REKT : Liquidated short on `GNOM17`: buy 1 @ 0.057427
[2017-05-01 20:15:35] REKT : Liquidated short on `GNOM17`: buy 1 @ 0.057427
[2017-05-01 20:15:36] Nutella : we're in pump country, everything goes up eventually
[2017-05-01 20:15:39] Farzad : GNO @ 0.38 at poloniex
[2017-05-01 20:15:40] Farzad : LOL
[2017-05-01 20:16:04] sleger : Nutella: how is GNO going ?
[2017-05-01 20:16:08] sleger : making $$$
[2017-05-01 20:16:13] sleger : you rich boy !
[2017-05-01 20:16:18] Tommy : The futures won't work if longs don't have to pay for the premium they create.
[2017-05-01 20:16:46] Farzad : sleger: I announced you "idiot slger" afetr you vouched for this scam coin ! lol
[2017-05-01 20:16:48] Nutella : sleger: farzad talked shit about ur person
[2017-05-01 20:17:02] Farzad : who is smart now ?
[2017-05-01 20:17:16] Nutella : @sleger tell him
[2017-05-01 20:17:20] Nutella : or are u chicken
[2017-05-01 20:17:37] Farzad : haha, he was longin Gnosis @0.1 BTC !
[2017-05-01 20:17:39] Farzad : LOL
[2017-05-01 20:17:42] sleger : Farzad: you must not read english well
[2017-05-01 20:17:50] sleger : i keep making fun of rapid for going long
[2017-05-01 20:18:11] sleger : but anyways, i was talking to my food @Nutella
[2017-05-01 20:18:20] sleger : how is pnl food ?
[2017-05-01 20:18:42] Farzad : sleger: we have chat logs. we can go through it
[2017-05-01 20:18:47] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 2222 @ 1433.9
[2017-05-01 20:18:59] Nutella : Farzad: he lies a lot
[2017-05-01 20:19:10] gnome : GNO moving up on polo
[2017-05-01 20:19:11] gnome : 0.0409
[2017-05-01 20:19:15] Tommy : Effectively the longs are free riders when their margin can't even cover the premium.
[2017-05-01 20:19:17] Farzad : Nutella: +1 I love you now
[2017-05-01 20:19:23] Farzad : /mod Nutella
[2017-05-01 20:19:23] trollbot : ``` Nutella has been moded```
[2017-05-01 20:19:28] Actualiteit : lol
[2017-05-01 20:19:31] sleger : Farzad: sure
[2017-05-01 20:19:33] sleger : 2017-05-01 17:18:25] sleger : nobody wants to buy that scam on kraken, orderbook bids are almost inexistent
[2017-05-01 20:19:34] Nutella : /ban sleger
[2017-05-01 20:19:34] trollbot : ``` sleger has been banned```
[2017-05-01 20:19:39] Tommy : The leverage is infinity if they can't even cover the premium.
[2017-05-01 20:19:50] sleger : Nutella: i dont use the bot idiot
[2017-05-01 20:20:00] Nutella : Farzad: tnx
[2017-05-01 20:20:03] sleger : Farzad: see you just modded someone who abused its privilege
[2017-05-01 20:20:05] Farzad : Nutella: yw
[2017-05-01 20:20:08] sleger : to settle a private loss
[2017-05-01 20:20:11] sleger : are you proud ?
[2017-05-01 20:20:18] BitMEX_Greg : Farzad: @Nutella @sleger Guys you have been warned before about this. If you continue you will all be banned for 24 hours
[2017-05-01 20:20:21] Farzad : sleger: and what was the private loss ?
[2017-05-01 20:20:22] Clock : I dont even.... 0.042 btc for GNO lol
[2017-05-01 20:20:39] biz : so cheap still
[2017-05-01 20:20:49] sleger : BitMEX_Greg: he did again what he was told to not do
[2017-05-01 20:21:00] Clock : biz: gno?
[2017-05-01 20:21:26] gnome : gno still moving up on polo, 0.0422
[2017-05-01 20:21:27] biz : @Clock yeah
[2017-05-01 20:21:43] gnome : watch that 0.058899 sell wall creep up
[2017-05-01 20:21:46] biz : shorts gonna get trapped on here
[2017-05-01 20:22:41] Farzad : sleger: I moded Nutella, I never told her to ban you. it is not my problem that you are rude to everyone here and they hate you.
[2017-05-01 20:22:59] sleger : Farzad: maybe but you saw it so you should react
[2017-05-01 20:23:07] sleger : since i didnt abuse the "bot"
[2017-05-01 20:23:09] mdsmm : cheer up guys
[2017-05-01 20:23:28] sleger : Farzad: and Nutella is the one everyone hates to be honest, look around
[2017-05-01 20:24:02] Farzad : sleger: she is the only girl here ! I dont think anyone hates her :p
[2017-05-01 20:24:16] sleger : and you believe that.... no wonder
[2017-05-01 20:24:30] hmmmYea : this trollbox is gender neutral
[2017-05-01 20:24:37] MikeHunt : lol
[2017-05-01 20:24:49] lrs13 : Did u just assume my gender?
[2017-05-01 20:24:54] Farzad : Nutella, can you confirm you are a grill ? :D
[2017-05-01 20:25:13] sleger : its a food idiot
[2017-05-01 20:25:31] zqooN : hmmmYea: No it's not gender neutral,,,. rekt is a mother-in-law. Always pointing out the negative
[2017-05-01 20:25:33] Farzad : a delicious chocolate :p
[2017-05-01 20:25:47] micmix : in Russian Nutella is 'she'
[2017-05-01 20:25:58] hmmmYea : zqooN: thats just because you are an unworthy mate
[2017-05-01 20:25:59] MikeHunt : I sexually Identify as an Attack Helicopter. If you can’t accept me you’re a heliphobe and need to check your vehicle privilege.
[2017-05-01 20:26:27] hmmmYea : oh no.... mike really loves the attack helicopter joke
[2017-05-01 20:26:31] zqooN : hmmmYea: yup rekt doesn't like me as i don't bring much coins to her
[2017-05-01 20:26:31] hmmmYea : sorry to all in advance
[2017-05-01 20:26:45] Gr33d : back down we go GNO
[2017-05-01 20:26:51] BitMEX_Greg : @Farzad, @Nutella we have warned you guys about abuse of the bot. As we have mentioned previously we *allow* it to run because we believe it does provide a valuable service to the traders, however we don't want see abuse of this. Please unban sleger and @sleger please don't bring it up again and troll these guys
[2017-05-01 20:26:53] MikeHunt : hmmmYea: one day helliphobia will be a criminal offence
[2017-05-01 20:27:07] MikeHunt : and i shall be respected
[2017-05-01 20:27:48] hmmmYea : lol.... give people even the smallest amount of power over a stranger, they abuse it
[2017-05-01 20:28:04] sleger : they also have an IQ test for traffic cops
[2017-05-01 20:28:09] sleger : if its too high you cant become one
[2017-05-01 20:28:31] MikeHunt : i thought they applied that to all cops?
[2017-05-01 20:28:55] sleger : no officers dont have that
[2017-05-01 20:29:12] Farzad : BitMEX_Greg: I am sorry, I am providing this service for free to you guys and I keep the right to manage it as I see fit. if you want to ban it, go ahead. I do not even use it myself. you can see that I only trade by my bots here.
[2017-05-01 20:29:13] MikeHunt : i heard in US they do
[2017-05-01 20:29:19] zqooN : just be smart and play stupid
[2017-05-01 20:29:44] MikeHunt : Farzad: "there is no justice here, only the hammer" - bitmexSam
[2017-05-01 20:30:08] BitMEX_Greg : Farzad: We expect that if you are running it here then you take responsibility of those you are providing mods of it.
[2017-05-01 20:31:07] sleger : BitMEX_Greg: it's ok, i am fine to stay banned, i dont use it, and it just shows his integrity.
[2017-05-01 20:31:25] sleger : you just have to get very low to become like that, SAD
[2017-05-01 20:32:21] Zelo : hey guys bitcoin
[2017-05-01 20:32:21] Zelo : and stuff
[2017-05-01 20:32:25] Sultan Pepper : At least he removed re-rekt
[2017-05-01 20:33:12] Farzad : sleger: they are only nice to you because you have a large balance here ;)
[2017-05-01 20:33:31] sleger : No its because you abuse it
[2017-05-01 20:33:37] sleger : to settle personal vendettas
[2017-05-01 20:34:10] Biggiesmalls : Hi just wondering if it is possible to loan out bitcoin on this site
[2017-05-01 20:34:15] Farzad : You said yourself that I am a very nice person and you are not. I have no personal vendettas
[2017-05-01 20:34:30] Farzad : anyway lets end it.
[2017-05-01 20:34:36] hitme1 : Biggiesmalls: yes, short swaps
[2017-05-01 20:34:39] sleger : ever heard of second degree ? lol
[2017-05-01 20:34:43] hitme1 : same thing as lending tbh
[2017-05-01 20:35:02] Sultan Pepper : KILL THE BOT. EAT ITS HEAD.
[2017-05-01 20:35:04] Biggiesmalls : hitme1: how can I check the rates?
[2017-05-01 20:35:12] Farzad : please sell guys, I am short :D
[2017-05-01 20:35:30] Farzad : Biggiesmalls: rate of what ?
[2017-05-01 20:35:42] Clock : how much did one GNO cost during ICO?
[2017-05-01 20:35:45] Biggiesmalls : The current loan rates
[2017-05-01 20:36:38] MikeHunt : 0.375 in 15hrs
[2017-05-01 20:36:42] MikeHunt : aint seen that in a while
[2017-05-01 20:36:45] hitme1 : Biggiesmalls: https://www.bitmex.com/app/fundingHistory
[2017-05-01 20:37:02] hitme1 : Biggiesmalls: current rate mentioned here https://www.bitmex.com/app/contract/XBTUSD
[2017-05-01 20:37:26] hitme1 : longs pay shorts
[2017-05-01 20:37:38] thomaskikansha : gno bouncy
[2017-05-01 20:38:52] Biggiesmalls : hitme1: thx, so I assume the risk of slippage.. you can easily lose money by loaning BTC?
[2017-05-01 20:38:53] Trade : hitme1: yes, next 2 rounds highest fundings I can recall
[2017-05-01 20:39:30] Farzad2 : 0.335% in 7 hours
[2017-05-01 20:40:11] Farzad2 : thats a lot
[2017-05-01 20:40:17] Trade : then 0.375 again in 15h lol
[2017-05-01 20:40:26] hitme1 : Biggiesmalls: plus, it can go negative. make sure you understand the contract. good idea to read the guide or practice with small position till you get the hang of it
[2017-05-01 20:40:30] Farzad2 : Trade: it will decrease over time
[2017-05-01 20:40:39] Trade : true
[2017-05-01 20:40:49] Farzad2 : it adjusts itself over next 7 hours
[2017-05-01 20:41:19] dorsens : BitMEX_Greg: "Premium Index (P) = (Max(0, Impact Bid Price - Mark Price) - Max(0, Mark Price - Impact Ask Price)) / Spot Price + Fair Basis used in Mark Price" - could you tell me what exactly is "Fair Basis"? Is it the Funding Basis defined as "Funding Basis = Funding Rate * (Time Until Funding / Funding Interval)" ?
[2017-05-01 20:41:36] Biggiesmalls : hitme1: thanks, looks like it might be a bit too risky for my taste... I was hoping to get a few hundred coins into play
[2017-05-01 20:41:57] Trade : use futures if you want to avoid funding?
[2017-05-01 20:42:00] BitMEX_Greg : dorsens: https://www.bitmex.com/app/fairPriceMarking#Fair-Price-Derivation
[2017-05-01 20:42:13] Biggiesmalls : have a read through the guide anyway thanks very much for your help
[2017-05-01 20:42:33] Trade : pay the futures fee, then no funding
[2017-05-01 20:42:56] hitme1 : Biggiesmalls: maybe risky if you don't understand the rules i suppose. i suggest trading a week or 2 eith small amounts. ask the trollbox for help if u need it to understand things like premium or funding rate effects
[2017-05-01 20:43:35] Trade : funding is normally much lower than this
[2017-05-01 20:43:36] Biggiesmalls : hitme1: are you guys based in Hong Kong?
[2017-05-01 20:43:46] Trade : /sentiment
[2017-05-01 20:43:49] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 35.42 / 64.58 Daily : 40.11 / 59.89 Weekly : 45.66 / 54.35 Monthly : 45.72 / 54.28```
[2017-05-01 20:43:52] hitme1 : thailand
[2017-05-01 20:43:56] hitme1 : im a brit, in TH
[2017-05-01 20:43:58] Clock : so we could fly to 2000 if we climb to 1600 right?
[2017-05-01 20:44:18] ross : Clock: could fly back down to 1000 before 2000
[2017-05-01 20:44:18] Trade : without any pullbacks? ;)
[2017-05-01 20:44:27] Biggiesmalls : Nice, we are moving to Bangkok next year
[2017-05-01 20:44:30] dorsens : BitMEX_Greg: but here "Fair Basis" is defined using "Time to Expiry", but the perpetual doesn't have time expiry? Or is the "Fair Basis" from futures used as a variable in calculating the Premium Index for the perpetual?
[2017-05-01 20:45:17] hitme1 : Biggiesmalls: i basically live here 80% of the year. cant think of anywhere better
[2017-05-01 20:45:46] Biggiesmalls : BitMEX_Greg: are you based in Hong Kong greg? Pretty cool site only just learnt about it. Complicated though.
[2017-05-01 20:46:33] Biggiesmalls : hitme1: we just got an apartment on Soi 11. Fantastic place for my kids, Thai people really go out of their way for kids
[2017-05-01 20:47:47] hitme1 : soi 11 was where i stayed when i first came. good choice
[2017-05-01 20:47:55] dorsens : BitMEX_Greg: there's an inconsistency: this page: https://www.bitmex.com/app/swapsGuide defines "Premium Index (P) = (Max(0, Impact Bid Price - Mark Price) - Max(0, Mark Price - Impact Ask Price)) / Spot Price + Fair Basis used in Mark Price", while this page https://www.bitmex.com/app/swapsGuideExamples says "Premium Index (P) = (Max(0, Impact Bid Price - Mark Price) - Max(0, Mark Price - Impact Ask Price)) / Spot Price", so it's missing the "Fair Basis used in Mark Price" factor
[2017-05-01 20:48:15] Biggiesmalls : hitme1: cool!
[2017-05-01 20:48:25] dorsens : so which is the actual formula used for Premium Index?
[2017-05-01 20:48:35] BitMEX_Greg : dorsens: Thanks will come back to you on this. The fair basis is not the futures basis. I think some pages may have been redone recently, need to check
[2017-05-01 20:48:49] BitMEX_Greg : Biggiesmalls: I am in the US, most of the rest of the team is in HK tho
[2017-05-01 20:48:50] dorsens : alright
[2017-05-01 20:49:36] Biggiesmalls : I can't believe how crazy loans are at the moment in crypto land... I have about 350 out at 0.9% on Polo. I'm hoping they don't close their position for the rest of their lives
[2017-05-01 20:49:45] Biggiesmalls : ?
[2017-05-01 20:49:57] dorsens : Biggiesmalls: 0.9% daily?
[2017-05-01 20:50:01] hitme1 : dumb money!
[2017-05-01 20:50:02] Biggiesmalls : Yes
[2017-05-01 20:50:16] REKT : Liquidated short on `GNOM17`: buy 28 @ 0.060163
[2017-05-01 20:50:31] aron : youre getiting 1% everyday for loaning polo?
[2017-05-01 20:50:46] Biggiesmalls : But don't look right now because you'll see. 0.018. a huge amount of money came flooding in
[2017-05-01 20:50:56] lrs13 : Ummm.. does kraken do margin on GNO?
[2017-05-01 20:50:58] Biggiesmalls : Yes that's right I'm getting 1% per day at least until they close
[2017-05-01 20:51:14] aron : how do i loan my polo?
[2017-05-01 20:51:18] aron : i only have btc
[2017-05-01 20:51:32] hitme1 : only thing thats makes me uncomfortable about polo is their relationship with bitfinex (via tether)
[2017-05-01 20:51:33] Biggiesmalls : Just click on the lending tab
[2017-05-01 20:51:44] aron : i dont see a lending tab here
[2017-05-01 20:51:59] hitme1 : what happens if bitfinex defaults on USDT
[2017-05-01 20:52:05] Biggiesmalls : Is at the top on the right next to margin
[2017-05-01 20:52:18] Biggiesmalls : I don't think that can happen
[2017-05-01 20:52:26] aron : are u talking about this site?
[2017-05-01 20:52:30] Biggiesmalls : It's Much Ado About Nothing
[2017-05-01 20:52:54] Biggiesmalls : No I was talking about Polo
[2017-05-01 20:53:07] aron : which site?
[2017-05-01 20:53:14] Biggiesmalls : But don't bother because the great rates have disappeared for now
[2017-05-01 20:53:19] Biggiesmalls : Poloniex
[2017-05-01 20:53:44] aron : any other idea for me to get 1% return per week?
[2017-05-01 20:53:58] Gr33d : dafuq, who bought my GNO @ 60? Jesus...
[2017-05-01 20:54:08] aron : maybe 0.5% return per week?
[2017-05-01 20:54:35] Biggiesmalls : aron: yes you can definitely get that... At the moment it is 0.17 per day
[2017-05-01 20:54:46] aron : how do i get that?
[2017-05-01 20:54:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHM17`: sell 49 @ 0.05655
[2017-05-01 20:54:55] Trade : www.poloniex.com
[2017-05-01 20:55:14] aron : but what if they steal my btc?
[2017-05-01 20:55:18] Biggiesmalls : aron: just go to that website and click on the lending tab... Good luck..
[2017-05-01 20:55:22] aron : i mean its lending right?
[2017-05-01 20:55:22] Trade : ayuda
[2017-05-01 20:55:27] aron : what if they dont pay back?
[2017-05-01 20:55:31] Biggiesmalls : That's a risk you have to take with every exchange
[2017-05-01 20:55:52] Biggiesmalls : They are very conservative with their margin trading so it's not a risk
[2017-05-01 20:56:06] Biggiesmalls : 2.5x.
[2017-05-01 20:56:29] hitme1 : aron: the exchange might go bust, but the "borrower" cant run away. they platform just allows them to use leverage and processes it for you
[2017-05-01 20:56:43] hitme1 : if that makes sense
[2017-05-01 20:56:44] sleger : only 6 lines of rapidtrades in the chat archive, it's the end !!
[2017-05-01 20:56:58] aron : hitme1 lets say im the borrower and i borrow money
[2017-05-01 20:57:02] aron : why should i pay it back?
[2017-05-01 20:57:44] aron : or am i not allowed to take my loan away from the site?
[2017-05-01 20:57:57] sleger : there is no loans here
[2017-05-01 20:57:59] hitme1 : you "borrow" when you use leverage. you can take a bigger position than you have, cant actually withdraw it
[2017-05-01 20:58:10] Labowski : /price
[2017-05-01 20:58:12] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1414.35 (0.45%) Bitfinex : 1545.80 (1.56%) OKCоin : 1360.01 (0.30%) itBit : 1438.75 (0.53%) Kraken : 1415.00 (1.14%) GDAX : 1457.64 (0.92%) SLQ : 1 hour, 44 mins```
[2017-05-01 21:00:49] Biggiesmalls : aron: if you want to make money without breaking your head... Just do absolutely nothing and sit on your Bitcoin. Sooner or later the Alts will crash again. BTC will squeeze them when it hits 1500 and fresh round of media/fomo. Then go shopping when there are huge selloffs.
[2017-05-01 21:01:41] Biggiesmalls : All of the big Alts lost 50-70% during the last run-up.
[2017-05-01 21:01:52] hitme1 : Biggiesmalls: +1 someone gets it
[2017-05-01 21:06:43] abbey : Biggiesmalls: word
[2017-05-01 21:07:49] Ugly_Old_Goat : Funding is paying shorts apprximately $9 per day or $3285 per year
[2017-05-01 21:08:06] sleger : you cant extrapolate 2 points....
[2017-05-01 21:08:18] Biggiesmalls : People have such short term memory in this space. It wasn't long ago that BTC flexed and suddenly all of the Alts were shitcoins
[2017-05-01 21:08:20] Ugly_Old_Goat : Better to own June than perp
[2017-05-01 21:08:49] sleger : if btc goes up yes
[2017-05-01 21:08:51] sleger : otherwise no
[2017-05-01 21:08:57] Biggiesmalls : You could buy Factom, ETH, XMR, REP 4 pennies on the dollar
[2017-05-01 21:09:08] thomaskikansha : still some hope for gno longers?
[2017-05-01 21:09:15] Ugly_Old_Goat : If btc sneezes alts will collapse
[2017-05-01 21:09:31] Biggiesmalls : Of course it will go up... It's the only thing that's ever reliably happened in this space
[2017-05-01 21:09:41] micmix : shorts were paid less than 2% in total funding since Jan. 1
[2017-05-01 21:09:42] sleger : really ?
[2017-05-01 21:09:46] sleger : Biggiesmalls:
[2017-05-01 21:10:07] sleger : 1000 to 100 ?
[2017-05-01 21:10:49] sleger : micmix: "we calculated the average difference between the Bitfinex daily USD and Bitcoin lending rates for a 12 month period ending 31 March 2017 to arrive at the positive 0.03% rate."
[2017-05-01 21:10:50] Ugly_Old_Goat : micmix: yup it was an anomally,. Mardket just now getting normal carryiing
[2017-05-01 21:11:04] Biggiesmalls : Zoom out. If all we ever did was buy bitcoin and hold it, at any point in history, we would be making money
[2017-05-01 21:11:22] sleger : ^ thats true of ATH
[2017-05-01 21:11:30] sleger : for anything
[2017-05-01 21:11:37] sleger : even tulipes at their highest
[2017-05-01 21:11:37] Biggiesmalls : But instead we are all greedy gutses which is why we trade on shitcoins!
[2017-05-01 21:11:39] wtaler : Is it possible to report bugs somehow? Just open a ticket I suppose?
[2017-05-01 21:12:09] micmix : sleger: yes, last year was much better funding wise
[2017-05-01 21:12:45] Ugly_Old_Goat : Remember went to 120 premium in January before we collapsed. So we could go much higher before it happens again
[2017-05-01 21:13:13] micmix : Ugly_Old_Goat: yes, just a small 3 month anomaly. like backwardation that should disappear in 2-3 days as you were saying in Jan
[2017-05-01 21:13:17] Ugly_Old_Goat : FOMOS have nothing but high risk and bad options now
[2017-05-01 21:14:12] Ugly_Old_Goat : Yup, and I made a forune beying Merch futures and did the same with June bot at 900 and still long
[2017-05-01 21:14:45] Ugly_Old_Goat : Just starting to sell Perp against June but it can go much wider if market continues up
[2017-05-01 21:15:27] micmix : Ugly_Old_Goat: lol, you were saying your liq price was $950 and that we will never go below $1100. just lies and more lies as always
[2017-05-01 21:15:39] Ugly_Old_Goat : All I know is the June is widening over Perp and my short perps are getting paid 9 per day
[2017-05-01 21:16:21] Ugly_Old_Goat : micmix: Sorry but I bot June from 915 to 888 check your price history
[2017-05-01 21:16:47] Ugly_Old_Goat : micmix: Those that no me know I do not mislead here
[2017-05-01 21:17:35] zanza : I"m so glad I didn't short at 1240 last week
[2017-05-01 21:17:41] zanza : I was going to do a big shor
[2017-05-01 21:17:41] Ugly_Old_Goat : I am long 120 btc now but was long 170 coming into today
[2017-05-01 21:18:05] zanza : https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/68muot/17k_bitfinex_contracts_short_starting_at_1600_if/
[2017-05-01 21:18:27] Ugly_Old_Goat : I have no idea if we are stipping here, at 1500 or 15000, all I know is stay long btc
[2017-05-01 21:18:36] j8 : yeah a bitfinex short squeeze will be fun to watch
[2017-05-01 21:19:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 25000 @ 1444.2
[2017-05-01 21:19:29] abbey : let's go
[2017-05-01 21:19:43] sleger : j8: hey can you do the magic unban please
[2017-05-01 21:19:44] Nutella : the GNO is slowly climbing back
[2017-05-01 21:19:45] Ugly_Old_Goat : zanza: Wow, I am bullish but not that bullish
[2017-05-01 21:19:51] j8 : /unban sleger
[2017-05-01 21:20:09] Nutella : /ban j8
[2017-05-01 21:20:10] trollbot : ``` j8 has been banned```
[2017-05-01 21:20:15] Ugly_Old_Goat : Again, I have take some very nice profits today and do not envy those stuck in FOMO land
[2017-05-01 21:20:22] j8 : guess i'm not a mod anymore
[2017-05-01 21:20:35] Nutella : no ur not
[2017-05-01 21:20:38] sleger : wow, it has gotten very low around here
[2017-05-01 21:20:44] sleger : only idiots are mods anymore
[2017-05-01 21:20:46] Actualiteit : COME AT ME BRUH
[2017-05-01 21:20:52] MikeHunt : need a modbot, then no more emotional bans
[2017-05-01 21:20:53] Actualiteit : fuckin caps
[2017-05-01 21:20:56] sleger : and long GNO :D lol
[2017-05-01 21:21:19] gnome : gno will reach 0.1 btc again. just wait
[2017-05-01 21:21:20] zqooN : MikeHunt: and an ignore feature
[2017-05-01 21:21:38] Nutella : will GNO be the hard currency crypto needs?
[2017-05-01 21:21:46] gnome : gno > eth
[2017-05-01 21:21:46] hitme1 : ive almost made back the balance of my last rekt a few months ago :)
[2017-05-01 21:21:47] sleger : no
[2017-05-01 21:21:48] Nutella : its the only token without inflation now
[2017-05-01 21:21:49] sleger : gNO
[2017-05-01 21:21:53] Gr33d : Nutella: Lol nah
[2017-05-01 21:22:03] Nutella : yah
[2017-05-01 21:22:04] Gr33d : GNO found its top
[2017-05-01 21:22:12] Rizky : REP>GNO?
[2017-05-01 21:22:24] Gr33d : Doge>GNO
[2017-05-01 21:22:24] sleger : empty > gno
[2017-05-01 21:23:03] thomaskikansha : good to see some support here
[2017-05-01 21:23:09] hitme1 : i hope ETH finally dies after this.
[2017-05-01 21:23:12] Nutella : flushing out shorts again will be fun
[2017-05-01 21:23:27] CrazySteve : /sentiment
[2017-05-01 21:23:29] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 35.23 / 64.77 Daily : 40.38 / 59.62 Weekly : 45.62 / 54.38 Monthly : 45.72 / 54.28```
[2017-05-01 21:23:33] Biggiesmalls : GNO and REP are both rubbish projects in my opinion. Ostensibly building gambling websites with no compliance layer. If they ever take off they will be crushed.
[2017-05-01 21:23:36] sleger : i just hope longs bought enough to get rekt soon
[2017-05-01 21:24:12] Ugly_Old_Goat : sleger: Only new longs will get rkt
[2017-05-01 21:24:32] hitme1 : Biggiesmalls: and MELON - fund management platform lol
[2017-05-01 21:24:46] hitme1 : lots of dubious projects IMO
[2017-05-01 21:24:49] Ugly_Old_Goat : If we break I will offer support, if we go up great!
[2017-05-01 21:25:19] Nutella : are u on team gno now? @Ugly_Old_Goat
[2017-05-01 21:25:36] Ugly_Old_Goat : Nutella: Never
[2017-05-01 21:25:37] sleger : team rapid lol
[2017-05-01 21:27:11] Ugly_Old_Goat : sleger: kiner team?
[2017-05-01 21:27:15] MikeHunt : sledger bearish = doom approaches
[2017-05-01 21:27:23] Ugly_Old_Goat : Kinder Team?
[2017-05-01 21:27:53] sleger : MikeHunt: bearish on what ?
[2017-05-01 21:28:04] Ugly_Old_Goat : I am a seller on a pop up and a buyer on a pop down, Which will it be?
[2017-05-01 21:28:21] MikeHunt : sleger: gno?
[2017-05-01 21:29:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XRPM17`: sell 1000 @ 0.00003688
[2017-05-01 21:31:14] Nutella : buyers taking over orderbook @kraken
[2017-05-01 21:31:29] Gr33d : Nutella: LoooL
[2017-05-01 21:31:37] Actualiteit : Nutella: u a gnome?
[2017-05-01 21:31:39] aandy : YOLO FOMO LONG 100X
[2017-05-01 21:33:21] Ugly_Old_Goat : JunePerp spread at 26
[2017-05-01 21:33:54] Ugly_Old_Goat : Still a better buy than perp with current funding
[2017-05-01 21:36:23] Trade : True. Going to need to pay attention to Futures and spreads from now on @Ugly_Old_Goat
[2017-05-01 21:36:49] Trade : bit less liquid than swaps tho eh?
[2017-05-01 21:36:50] Ugly_Old_Goat : Trade: Very important
[2017-05-01 21:37:13] Nutella : /price
[2017-05-01 21:37:14] Ugly_Old_Goat : Trade: Quite a bit
[2017-05-01 21:37:15] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1416.98 (0.19%) Bitfinex : 1559.00 (0.85%) OKCоin : 1377.10 (1.26%) itBit : 1447.69 (0.62%) Kraken : 1412.10 (-0.20%) GDAX : 1465.05 (0.51%) SLQ : 39 mins```
[2017-05-01 21:37:32] Nutella : finex blowing up?
[2017-05-01 21:37:39] Ugly_Old_Goat : I hold core in June futures and trade swap
[2017-05-01 21:37:49] Trade : people talking about short squeeze coming on BFX
[2017-05-01 21:37:56] biz : finex always blowing up. market buying to get the fuck off that exchange
[2017-05-01 21:37:57] podizzle3k : nutella word is there are shorts due to be liquidated at $1600 on finex that would blow through $100s in the asks
[2017-05-01 21:38:06] podizzle3k : so $1600 straight to $2000 is possible
[2017-05-01 21:38:19] Ugly_Old_Goat : I trade futures too but must be played with more extreme swings
[2017-05-01 21:38:22] Trade : Will I regret closing my long at 1448? lol
[2017-05-01 21:38:30] j8 : the $1600 part is made up though
[2017-05-01 21:38:35] Actualiteit : Trade: mmmmmaybe
[2017-05-01 21:39:04] podizzle3k : just be patient u know the money will flow into alts over time
[2017-05-01 21:39:06] Ugly_Old_Goat : And rather than sell June I prefer selling swap
[2017-05-01 21:39:25] Ugly_Old_Goat : Just be Jack be nimble
[2017-05-01 21:39:46] Ugly_Old_Goat : Jack be nimbe, jack be quick . . . and burnt a hole in his pants
[2017-05-01 21:40:38] sleger : podizzle3k: and you put any value to nutella word because .... ?
[2017-05-01 21:41:01] Nutella : gno=future pump
[2017-05-01 21:41:27] sleger : yes it will pump
[2017-05-01 21:41:32] sleger : from 0.001 to 0.002 :D
[2017-05-01 21:41:51] Nutella : wont go down below ICO
[2017-05-01 21:41:59] Gr33d : Solid 100bitcoin support for GNO at kraken.... 90% down from current price
[2017-05-01 21:42:05] Trade : well u have to say, everyone's had plenty of chances to take their profits this rally
[2017-05-01 21:42:22] hitme1 : let it ride
[2017-05-01 21:42:29] Ugly_Old_Goat : 1450 in swap almost!
[2017-05-01 21:43:02] immackay : what in the holy name of jesus christ our saviour is bitcoin doing today