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[2024-02-20 07:20:20] Fuun : always the same, when u feel useless.
[2024-02-20 07:20:36] Fuun : sad, cute and funny. :joy:
[2024-02-20 07:24:19] Liquordated : hit, 48850 next target
[2024-02-20 07:24:29] Liquordated : 51400 hit
[2024-02-20 07:42:36] TImothee : lol
[2024-02-20 07:43:19] TImothee : um
[2024-02-20 07:47:55] TImothee : g
[2024-02-20 08:11:50] ahmx : Tail wagging dog guys, no spot volume so futures liquidations will determine volume and thereby price <3
[2024-02-20 08:24:51] skiradot : Sell Sell Sell this scam! 😂
[2024-02-20 08:48:27] jjhiijiji : Shawn-Williams: 42k in 6 hours? ;p
[2024-02-20 08:49:00] jjhiijiji : where do you guys get these countdowns from
[2024-02-20 08:49:24] jjhiijiji : '38k on thursday' 42k in 5 hours and 45 minsd' '42 in 2 days'
[2024-02-20 08:49:26] jjhiijiji : i find it hilarious
[2024-02-20 09:04:44] laPanini : 100k in 60 seconds sir!
[2024-02-20 09:05:22] RippleX : yellowpig: @NOOM :doge:
[2024-02-20 09:05:24] laPanini : People still underestimating the power of the bounce.
[2024-02-20 09:05:28] RippleX : laPanini: :doge:
[2024-02-20 09:05:37] RippleX : ahmx: :doge:
[2024-02-20 09:05:39] laPanini : People just aint bullish enough.
[2024-02-20 09:05:47] RippleX : Senior. Professor.: :doge:
[2024-02-20 09:05:57] laPanini : Not being bullish enough will be expensive.
[2024-02-20 09:06:07] laPanini : RippleX: :doge:
[2024-02-20 09:06:22] laPanini : because, up we go :rocket:
[2024-02-20 09:07:27] bluemaster : Life is so good with Bitmex ,admin how can i buy some present for Arthur ?
[2024-02-20 09:08:27] laPanini : Just write "Arthur" on the box, the post office will route it properly, there is only one :arthur:
[2024-02-20 09:08:31] bluemaster : /position xbth24 ``` :bitmex: XBTH24: 205,200 USD @ 46917.7391 ```
[2024-02-20 09:08:34] bluemaster : /position xbtm24 ``` :bitmex: XBTM24: 255,300 USD @ 46232.2988 ```
[2024-02-20 09:08:37] bluemaster : /position xbteur ``` :bitmex: XBTEUR: 222,000 EUR @ 36965.0237 ```
[2024-02-20 09:08:41] bluemaster : /rpnl xbth24 ``` :bitmex: XBTH24: 0.8837 XBT RPNL ```
[2024-02-20 09:08:45] bluemaster : /rpnl xbtm24 ``` :bitmex: XBTM24: 0.9614 XBT RPNL ```
[2024-02-20 09:08:48] bluemaster : /rpnl xbteur ``` :bitmex: XBTEUR: 2.5057 XBT RPNL ```
[2024-02-20 09:10:04] bluemaster : SteveS: how to donate for your " go fund me for food relief"
[2024-02-20 09:11:55] bluemaster : https://www.tradingview.com/x/oxAgBJWl/
[2024-02-20 09:12:23] Senior. Professor. : RippleX: :doge: back, ser
[2024-02-20 09:12:34] RippleX : Senior. Professor.: 😘🌘
[2024-02-20 09:12:53] Senior. Professor. : RippleX: love you, ser. 💚
[2024-02-20 09:13:49] bmagic : 60k by Friday
[2024-02-20 09:14:09] RippleX : bmagic: :doge: 🌘
[2024-02-20 09:14:13] laPanini : bmagic: +1337 sir !
[2024-02-20 09:14:47] bluemaster : Senior. Professor.: you remember this one 😜 https://www.ac.com.au/upload/Kk3zmD9.png
[2024-02-20 09:18:32] rxr : come on
[2024-02-20 09:18:32] rxr : 50k
[2024-02-20 09:18:34] rxr : then 58
[2024-02-20 09:18:48] fcarvas : Why this ponzi doesn't pump
[2024-02-20 09:19:14] rxr : price is controlled by few big players
[2024-02-20 09:19:25] bluemaster : fcarvas: USA not open yet , rest is just Asians and Euro scam
[2024-02-20 09:19:50] rxr : same in stocks, elon said stock price moves based on 4-5 major stockpickers
[2024-02-20 09:20:01] bluemaster : brokeass
[2024-02-20 09:20:32] rxr : btc price hasnt moved in a week
[2024-02-20 09:20:51] rxr : BOOOOORRRRRING
[2024-02-20 09:22:11] bluemaster : rxr: small moves ,people over leverage and bingo 10 % move happen and wipe off 90%% of degens ....
[2024-02-20 09:22:37] bmagic : Moon
[2024-02-20 09:23:22] bluemaster : can not wait to sell to beras 56 --57k this week
[2024-02-20 09:23:53] bluemaster : https://ac.com.au/upload/advance--get--weekly.JPG
[2024-02-20 09:24:54] jjhiijiji : laPanini: morning gramps! havnt sat down properly yet been trying to adjust my position cause my upper back been hurting
[2024-02-20 09:25:14] jjhiijiji : moving around some furniture and position of screens ;p
[2024-02-20 09:25:55] laPanini : jjhiijiji: at least you have an upper back, be happy. :)
[2024-02-20 09:26:28] BitMEX_Mugu : Have a safe trading everyone 👋
[2024-02-20 09:27:28] Dr.LongBear : BitMEX_Mugu: :doge:
[2024-02-20 09:27:56] laPanini : BitMEX_Mugu: :rocket::rocket::rocket::rocket:
[2024-02-20 09:28:24] doublecheese : We go down likely. But I won't close my long. Adding margin if we go to 40k which is Dangerous zone for me
[2024-02-20 09:29:26] laPanini : It makes no sense at all, if we are likely to go down, why having a long open? If you dont rekt, you will lock your funds for an uncertain amount of time while waiting indefinitly for price to come back.
[2024-02-20 09:30:24] doublecheese : laPanini: because I want it to be so. I don't wanna miss out in case we don't go down, and I don't care about funds locked as I am in for long term
[2024-02-20 09:30:34] bmagic : Because bias has no conviction or risk management
[2024-02-20 09:31:04] doublecheese : laPanini: I want to like hodl, but on margin. I do need a very low liq price tho
[2024-02-20 09:31:09] laPanini : doublecheese: Just doesnt make sense, sometimes missing out is part of the game.
[2024-02-20 09:31:13] bmagic : 40k from here is 20% more bitcoin
[2024-02-20 09:32:07] laPanini : I can only speak for myself, but I rather have a stop in place at a 5% loss, and then re-enter lower. Those 5% is easier to make back than 100%.
[2024-02-20 09:32:48] doublecheese : laPanini: if we do go up, I know I am gonna FOMO, but at a higher price, doing even more damage
[2024-02-20 09:33:09] laPanini : Never FOMO, thats a bad practice.
[2024-02-20 09:33:16] doublecheese : laPanini: makes sense but you are not guaranteed you can reenter lower
[2024-02-20 09:33:38] laPanini : One thing I have learnt over the years is, there is ALWAYS the next opportunity.
[2024-02-20 09:34:28] laPanini : I might talk a lot of crap in this chat, but that statement is true.
[2024-02-20 09:34:56] bmagic : Always rekt
[2024-02-20 09:34:59] Liquordated : laPanini: exactly, don't force the trade
[2024-02-20 09:35:17] Vladimir.Putin : botton in ?
[2024-02-20 09:35:29] laPanini : the botton is pushed.
[2024-02-20 09:36:09] Vladimir.Putin : :rocket:
[2024-02-20 09:36:20] bmagic : Time to go 69x leverage long
[2024-02-20 09:36:31] bmagic : Get paid and rekt same time
[2024-02-20 09:37:09] laPanini : 69, the magical number dreaming about 420.
[2024-02-20 09:38:05] Vladimir.Putin : 69x guaranted win
[2024-02-20 09:38:50] Vladimir.Putin : ferrari accept doge , is that true?
[2024-02-20 09:39:19] doublecheese : laPanini: we are in Uncharted territory with such a pre halving run and etf and shit. Better stay in a long in times like this. If It dumps I push margin into it and make the position bigger
[2024-02-20 09:39:51] doublecheese : laPanini: long term I should be ok
[2024-02-20 09:40:14] doublecheese : laPanini: I could even add margin beforehand so my liq price goes very very low
[2024-02-20 09:40:46] laPanini : There is nothing uncharted about this territory at all, the chart is being written in real time, 24/7. There is so much data available that tells a story siry.
[2024-02-20 09:41:04] doublecheese : laPanini: so you're bearish too?
[2024-02-20 09:41:09] bmagic : 69x long
[2024-02-20 09:41:19] bmagic : Get rich or get rekt. Both is a reality
[2024-02-20 09:41:31] laPanini : Not at all. I just know I wont enter a long here if I didnt already have one open.
[2024-02-20 09:41:41] bmagic : Become part of the problem and the solution
[2024-02-20 09:42:10] laPanini : My long from 39.7 will either get stopped out, or it will grow into mega profits.
[2024-02-20 09:42:34] laPanini : I have a hedge short open just in case that happens. No stress trading is the best.
[2024-02-20 09:42:52] RippleX : Wrong way. Xrp 😄
[2024-02-20 09:43:08] Senior. Professor. : bluemaster: Come on, ser. too old already ... You sell your labor for a living and you must be proud of it. Staves is thinking from anglo-caste system, ser.
[2024-02-20 09:43:34] laPanini : So in a way I have already locked in profits between 39.7 and 52.6.
[2024-02-20 09:43:56] laPanini : One of these positions will get stopped out and grow.
[2024-02-20 09:46:01] bluemaster : Senior. Professor.: poor @SteveS his wife run away with bigger di..k
[2024-02-20 09:46:13] jjhiijiji : laPanini: were in a very similar position
[2024-02-20 09:46:16] Senior. Professor. : bluemaster: :arthur:
[2024-02-20 09:47:04] laPanini : jjhiijiji: I like to do this when market is deciding direction, that way i dont have to close a very good position because of uncertainty. :)
[2024-02-20 09:47:19] laPanini : Just wait it out.
[2024-02-20 09:47:29] jjhiijiji : also locked in profits from lower (42k not 39 like you) and opened short hedge at 51400 but keeping long open, wouldnt open one if i wasnt already in
[2024-02-20 09:47:36] bluemaster : did anyone remember how looks red monthly candle 😧
[2024-02-20 09:47:41] jjhiijiji : its a very comfortable position to be in
[2024-02-20 09:47:46] jjhiijiji : you dont mind whichever way it goes
[2024-02-20 09:47:55] jjhiijiji : but up definitely prefered ;d
[2024-02-20 09:48:06] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated long on `BCHUSD`: Sell 46 Cont @ 265.9 ($631.11)
[2024-02-20 09:48:06] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated long on `ETHUSD`: Sell 1 Cont @ 2885 ($148.85)
[2024-02-20 09:48:16] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated long on `LTCUSD`: Sell 6 Cont @ 69.91 ($43.28)
[2024-02-20 09:48:22] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated long on `LINKUSDT`: Sell 11 LINK @ 19.263 ($211.84)
[2024-02-20 09:48:29] laPanini : jjhiijiji: My main goal is to avoid making losses, or keep the losses to a minimum.
[2024-02-20 09:49:30] RippleX : Wtf 🤬
[2024-02-20 09:49:53] Dr.LongBear : we are going 33.8
[2024-02-20 09:51:02] VEGETA-WP : No we are not bro
[2024-02-20 09:51:15] Dr.LongBear : we need to liq most bullas
[2024-02-20 09:51:18] Dr.LongBear : so we can go up
[2024-02-20 09:51:34] RobVacation : laPanini: I'm more of a fan of assets allocation as hedging
[2024-02-20 09:51:38] Vladimir.Putin : pump it to 57k :doge:
[2024-02-20 09:52:14] RippleX : RobVacation: :doge:
[2024-02-20 09:52:29] laPanini : RobVacation: I see that more as a compliment rather than a hedge though since assets might perform differently.
[2024-02-20 09:52:33] RobVacation : or forward on agriculture products
[2024-02-20 09:52:48] laPanini : or asset class.
[2024-02-20 09:53:03] RobVacation : laPanini: yeah u doing future heding
[2024-02-20 09:53:11] laPanini : Yeah i have land too, and real estate, and metals.
[2024-02-20 09:53:12] RobVacation : contracts
[2024-02-20 09:53:50] jjhiijiji : just cause we have properties though doesnt mean u dont need to or shouldnt hedge within ur btc strategy
[2024-02-20 09:53:53] laPanini : Almost no stocks though, because we are in uncertain times, waiting for an opportunity to get in on the right ones.
[2024-02-20 09:53:57] RobVacation : laPanini: good, very good
[2024-02-20 09:54:07] jjhiijiji : for me thats all irrelevant
[2024-02-20 09:54:26] RobVacation : hedging is not for free.
[2024-02-20 09:54:48] jjhiijiji : im trying to minimize losses with my btc trades without considering my property or any other assets im holding outside crypto
[2024-02-20 09:55:03] laPanini : hedging my style is not free, however the losses will be within the unrealized profits, which to me is money i never had to begin with.
[2024-02-20 09:55:19] jjhiijiji : it makes losses smaller, and gains a little smaller too
[2024-02-20 09:55:36] RobVacation : yeah
[2024-02-20 09:55:45] jjhiijiji : u sacrtifice some of ur gains for some extra security thats it
[2024-02-20 09:55:52] jjhiijiji : reguardless of other assets ur holding
[2024-02-20 09:56:22] laPanini : Live to trade an other day. Rekt it all and you might never come back or it will require some real effort.
[2024-02-20 09:56:38] laPanini : Been there, done that.
[2024-02-20 09:57:08] laPanini : One of the hardest things to learn is to accept to take a loss if youre wrong.
[2024-02-20 09:57:28] jjhiijiji : that burned me many times in the past
[2024-02-20 09:57:46] RobVacation : bluemaster:a monthly, not red on horizon
[2024-02-20 09:57:47] Vladimir.Putin : AI and Gamefi make big gain at weekend, what next , meme coin , L1 ?
[2024-02-20 09:58:17] jjhiijiji : dont wanna lose that bit , u leave it, gets worse, then u just say eh fck it ive already lost so much its either gna liq or go back up 'not gonna close that huge loss'
[2024-02-20 09:59:08] doublecheese : jjhiijiji: that's exactly what's gonna happen to me if we dump. However, it's not gonna be liq as I Will be adding margin indefinitely
[2024-02-20 09:59:29] doublecheese : Of course, It requires patience to close in profit
[2024-02-20 09:59:52] laPanini : doublecheese: it is the adding margin part that will cause your position to liquidate in the end as the liquidation price crawls closer and closer.
[2024-02-20 10:00:13] doublecheese : laPanini: no, I mean I will add funds to lower liq price
[2024-02-20 10:00:47] doublecheese : If it gets dangerous
[2024-02-20 10:00:53] jjhiijiji : yeah not addint to pos, adding margin without changing position reduces ur liq
[2024-02-20 10:00:56] laPanini : doublecheese: An other way to read that is: "I will keep giving funds to the market for no reason at all, because I cannot accept losses"
[2024-02-20 10:01:07] jjhiijiji : but yeah u might just end up increasing ur losses
[2024-02-20 10:01:30] laPanini : It is a dangerous game to keep adding and adding, it can cause the martingale effect.
[2024-02-20 10:02:31] doublecheese : laPanini: since I am sure we will come back up, it has 2 benefits: lowers my liq price on the way down, and gives me more collateral to enlarge my position on the way back up :)
[2024-02-20 10:02:41] "it will be........" : stuff is cool.
[2024-02-20 10:02:42] laPanini : Anyhow, if it works, keep doing it. I keep doing what I do that works for me. I just want everyone to profit, but i know its impossible since 95% of the players lose.
[2024-02-20 10:03:08] RobVacation : never adding to a losing position. That's my motto.
[2024-02-20 10:03:13] doublecheese : laPanini: I'll tell you in some months if it works lol
[2024-02-20 10:04:45] laPanini : I know i prefer to keep my money liquid at all times, to be able to snipe the best possible position, sometimes it might take a few tries, but once you get it, the profit overweighs those previous losses by a multitude.
[2024-02-20 10:06:19] RobVacation : what will be the price if corn reaches half the market capitalization of gold?
[2024-02-20 10:06:45] bluemaster : anyone who go long here and have liquidation price over 30k is over leveraged , same for beras if they cannot stand 69k ....
[2024-02-20 10:07:34] doublecheese : bluemaster: 29k liq, still don't feel safe. I may add margin beforehand just to sleep well at nights lol
[2024-02-20 10:07:47] RobVacation : x10 is not safe.
[2024-02-20 10:08:21] bluemaster : RobVacation: I shit my self on 1 x
[2024-02-20 10:08:33] RobVacation : yeah me too
[2024-02-20 10:08:53] RobVacation : 😄
[2024-02-20 10:11:00] RobVacation : I have a strategy for x10 but this is an entry strategy of once twice a year
[2024-02-20 10:11:00] Vladimir.Putin : :btc: to the moon with doge :rocket:
[2024-02-20 10:11:43] bluemaster : Vladimir.Putin: 15 millions off doge printed each day ,,,and you will be rich 😜
[2024-02-20 10:12:12] Vladimir.Putin : haha im not long term holder just for daily trade
[2024-02-20 10:12:32] fcarvas : bluemaster: Doge $1 next big alt season
[2024-02-20 10:12:44] RippleX : Vladimir.Putin: /position dogeusdt
[2024-02-20 10:12:45] bluemaster : Vladimir.Putin: you must be trying to help Elon Musk pay some bills
[2024-02-20 10:12:54] laPanini : Exciting times sirs.
[2024-02-20 10:13:02] RippleX : /position dogeusdt ``` :bitmex: DOGEUSDT: 4,000 DOGE @ 0.0856233 ```
[2024-02-20 10:13:06] RippleX : Vladimir.Putin:
[2024-02-20 10:13:20] Vladimir.Putin : RippleX: wew
[2024-02-20 10:13:31] bmagic : /position xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: 40,000 USD @ 51769.2128 ```
[2024-02-20 10:13:46] RippleX : bmagic: :doge:
[2024-02-20 10:14:02] bluemaster : so CZ trading from home detention in USA 😛 https://bitcoinwisdom.io/markets/binance/bnbusdt
[2024-02-20 10:14:15] Vladimir.Putin : RippleX: Ferrari is now accepting $DOGE.
[2024-02-20 10:14:56] RippleX : Vladimir.Putin: :Doge: :Doge: **I like BMW**
[2024-02-20 10:15:13] RobVacation : Vladimir.Putin: when is a special operation over. I wanna go all in?
[2024-02-20 10:15:36] Vladimir.Putin : RobVacation: i dont know just read on twitter
[2024-02-20 10:15:54] RobVacation : 😩
[2024-02-20 10:16:07] RippleX : Looool
[2024-02-20 10:16:14] Vladimir.Putin : LoL :doge:
[2024-02-20 10:17:00] RippleX : Vladimir.Putin: follow me :Doge: https://x.com/xrp_x_/status/1759540052466835600?s=46&t=jfjzMbzSTEvjmwZqLsVFsQ
[2024-02-20 10:17:20] Vladimir.Putin : RippleX: hahaha
[2024-02-20 10:17:53] RippleX : :doge:
[2024-02-20 10:18:47] Vladimir.Putin : must break 52k and hold, to lock short term bullish
[2024-02-20 10:19:13] RippleX : Vladimir.Putin: xrp going back up 👀
[2024-02-20 10:19:50] Vladimir.Putin : RippleX: i gambling on xrp, but in option strike price 0.575 expired 24 feb.
[2024-02-20 10:20:21] RippleX : Vladimir.Putin: Bro risky af option trading
[2024-02-20 10:20:40] Vladimir.Putin : ya just split my little profit on it,
[2024-02-20 10:21:17] Vladimir.Putin : only 0.5% of asset
[2024-02-20 10:30:12] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 1300 USD @ 52028
[2024-02-20 10:30:31] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 4000 USD @ 52036.5
[2024-02-20 10:30:37] Atlemos : Start of new week confirmed, sepa is in!
[2024-02-20 10:31:02] thesecretsimplykj : ^
[2024-02-20 10:31:14] bluemaster : https://cryptoslate.com/bitwise-bitcoin-etf-garners-approval-from-a-major-30-billion-investment-advisor-network/
[2024-02-20 10:32:21] thesecretsimplykj : bluemaster: beautiful
[2024-02-20 10:33:33] RippleX : 🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀
[2024-02-20 10:34:06] bluemaster : people have PTSD frofm FTX,Alameda,Celsius,3 Arrow Capital ,CZ and rest of scam ....this time new players are here
[2024-02-20 10:35:15] bluemaster : are you ready for show guys https://cryptoslate.com/insights/approximately-1-billion-in-liquidations-positioned-above-52400/
[2024-02-20 10:35:25] Eluus : Hi!
[2024-02-20 10:35:59] Eluus : bluemaster: I managed to close and then re-open the long at a lower price over the weekend
[2024-02-20 10:36:41] Eluus : In the meantime I've realized how much higher the price of BTCUSD on Bitmex
[2024-02-20 10:36:42] bluemaster : Eluus: excellent mate , I don;t want risk my seat to the moon
[2024-02-20 10:36:45] Atlemos : This is crazy! Where is Schmico??
[2024-02-20 10:37:13] Eluus : Schmico doesn't come here anymore =[
[2024-02-20 10:37:29] Eluus : bluemaster: We're paying way to much for funding here
[2024-02-20 10:37:33] Eluus : too*
[2024-02-20 10:38:08] bluemaster : Eluus: I agree , that is reason I split little bit perp little bit futures
[2024-02-20 10:38:14] bluemaster : /position xbth24 ``` :bitmex: XBTH24: 205,200 USD @ 46917.7391 ```
[2024-02-20 10:38:16] bluemaster : /position xbtm24 ``` :bitmex: XBTM24: 255,300 USD @ 46232.2988 ```
[2024-02-20 10:38:17] Eluus : this is a good place to short and horrible place to long
[2024-02-20 10:38:20] bluemaster : /position xbteur ``` :bitmex: XBTEUR: 222,000 EUR @ 36965.0237 ```
[2024-02-20 10:39:30] Eluus : bluemaster: but have you compared futures prices with other exchanges?
[2024-02-20 10:39:40] Eluus : maybe their prices are higher as well
[2024-02-20 10:40:20] bluemaster : Eluus: yes I am on BItfinex and few options on Deribit
[2024-02-20 10:40:26] Shawn-Williams : /position xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: 300,000 USD @ 51814.8139 ```
[2024-02-20 10:40:34] bluemaster : Kraken for Spot
[2024-02-20 10:40:42] VEGETA-WP : Time for moon friends
[2024-02-20 10:41:11] Eluus : I see
[2024-02-20 10:41:45] Eluus : after I closed and re-opened my position partially it looks funny
[2024-02-20 10:41:51] Eluus : /position xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: 400,000 USD @ 51624.094 ```
[2024-02-20 10:42:00] Eluus : /rpnl xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: 3.6502 XBT RPNL ```
[2024-02-20 10:42:05] Eluus : /pnl xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: 3.6502 XBT RPNL, -0.0660 XBT UPNL ```
[2024-02-20 10:42:09] Atlemos : Eluus: 👌
[2024-02-20 10:42:33] Eluus : entry price 51624 but someone has 3.6502 rpnl :p
[2024-02-20 10:43:18] bluemaster : Eluus: same for my xbteur
[2024-02-20 10:43:23] bluemaster : /position xbteur ``` :bitmex: XBTEUR: 222,000 EUR @ 36965.0237 ```
[2024-02-20 10:43:27] bluemaster : /rpnl xbteur ``` :bitmex: XBTEUR: 2.5057 XBT RPNL ```
[2024-02-20 10:43:50] bluemaster : original open at 26k
[2024-02-20 10:44:12] bluemaster : /rpnl xbth24 ``` :bitmex: XBTH24: 0.8837 XBT RPNL ```
[2024-02-20 10:44:15] bluemaster : /rpnl xbtm24 ``` :bitmex: XBTM24: 0.9614 XBT RPNL ```
[2024-02-20 10:44:27] Eluus : This new "instant profit realiastion" feature doesn't make any sense at all
[2024-02-20 10:44:40] Shawn-Williams : I think funding will eat up lot of profits if we hold it for long
[2024-02-20 10:44:45] Eluus : Why make it on by default I don't understand?
[2024-02-20 10:44:55] bluemaster : Eluus: it is perfect if you know how to use it
[2024-02-20 10:44:56] Eluus : They've ruined Bitmex a lot
[2024-02-20 10:45:20] Eluus : I want to be able to see how much I've been paying for funding
[2024-02-20 10:45:35] Eluus : this feature makes it a lot harder
[2024-02-20 10:45:43] bluemaster : Eluus: they just trying to confuse you and suck you in , just turn it off if you don;t like it
[2024-02-20 10:45:49] Eluus : and since I have only 1 position here it has no use to me
[2024-02-20 10:46:18] bluemaster : Eluus: Instant PnL Realisation turn offf
[2024-02-20 10:46:40] Eluus : bluemaster: it doesn't make sense after it has already realised some profits
[2024-02-20 10:47:06] Eluus : for some reason Bitmex also has high fees
[2024-02-20 10:47:22] bluemaster : Eluus: where we going 31k or 51k same shit ,don;t worry about it
[2024-02-20 10:47:23] Eluus : overall it's not nearly as good as it was before
[2024-02-20 10:48:38] bluemaster : Eluus: I just wish Bitmex adjust my entry price when they profit is released
[2024-02-20 10:49:41] Eluus : bluemaster: it used to do that too!
[2024-02-20 10:50:09] bluemaster : Eluus: ask admin
[2024-02-20 10:50:23] Eluus : I mean before when you partially closed the position at a better price, it adjusted your entry price accordingly
[2024-02-20 10:52:39] Eluus : now it doesn't any make sense at all, how does my position have 3.65 btc profit with an entry of 51624 😂😂
[2024-02-20 10:52:51] bluemaster : Eluus: problem was I had to close position to take profits now doing it automatic just like deribit
[2024-02-20 10:53:28] Eluus : I see how it can be useful
[2024-02-20 10:53:56] bluemaster : https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitcoin-coinbase-holdings-lowest-2015
[2024-02-20 10:53:59] Eluus : I am not against it, just don't understand why make it default
[2024-02-20 10:54:14] Eluus : because it's too late after it had already realised profit
[2024-02-20 10:54:31] fiyah : Reduces liquidation chance in case of opposite postions
[2024-02-20 10:54:38] bluemaster : Eluus: now my liquidation goes lower and lower
[2024-02-20 10:54:40] Eluus : fiyah: not always
[2024-02-20 10:55:14] fiyah : unrealised can't be used as margin
[2024-02-20 10:56:55] megaman : /position xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: 500,000 USD @ 43537.6993 ```
[2024-02-20 10:58:09] Shawn-Williams : I don't know how people are keeping hold for that long in this market. it is constantly eating your profits in every 4 hours. During this time I have done trade of 300k 13 times.
[2024-02-20 10:58:22] Shawn-Williams : complete freedom and money available on every position
[2024-02-20 10:58:42] Eluus : fiyah: check the scenario 2 here how it can also work against you:
[2024-02-20 10:58:45] Eluus : https://blog.bitmex.com/pnl-realisation-cross-margining/
[2024-02-20 11:00:32] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 4500 USD @ 52139
[2024-02-20 11:01:42] laPanini : wen short? lol?
[2024-02-20 11:01:46] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 21000 USD @ 52177.5
[2024-02-20 11:01:56] laPanini : up we go
[2024-02-20 11:02:42] bluemaster : Shawn-Williams: when you trade with 20 % of Open Interest you can not move fast like that
[2024-02-20 11:03:21] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated short on `XBTUSDT`: Buy 0.0940 XBT @ 52247.6 ($4,910.43)
[2024-02-20 11:03:34] Shawn-Williams : yeap may be. ButI feel that in s pecualtive commodity like crypto if you hold long for 5-10k volatility
[2024-02-20 11:03:46] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 3100 USD @ 52279
[2024-02-20 11:03:51] Shawn-Williams : then even after waiting for 1-2 months if a blow come then profit goes to zero
[2024-02-20 11:04:18] bluemaster : Shawn-Williams: bitcoin is least speculative but people don;t get it yet
[2024-02-20 11:04:23] fcarvas : Send it
[2024-02-20 11:04:54] bluemaster : most safef asset to trade in the world
[2024-02-20 11:04:55] Shawn-Williams : bluemaster: well, but there are ways. And you are justify it the way you want obviously
[2024-02-20 11:05:13] bluemaster : Shawn-Williams: I been like you in 202
[2024-02-20 11:05:18] bluemaster : 20112
[2024-02-20 11:05:28] bluemaster : 2012 fucken keyboard
[2024-02-20 11:05:35] Dr.LongBear : :doge::catjam::doge::catjam::doge::catjam::doge::catjam:
[2024-02-20 11:05:45] Dr.LongBear : SEND IT
[2024-02-20 11:05:46] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 4400 USD @ 52315
[2024-02-20 11:05:50] Dr.LongBear : /position xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: 100 USD @ 16465 ```
[2024-02-20 11:05:55] Dr.LongBear : /pnl xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: -0.0001 XBT RPNL, 0.0042 XBT UPNL ```
[2024-02-20 11:06:10] Eluus : Dr.LongBear: this is the way
[2024-02-20 11:06:17] Dr.LongBear : Eluus: LONG IS THE WAY
[2024-02-20 11:06:24] Shawn-Williams : bluemaster: yeah i was like you in 2017 and lost here on bitmex in same account around 25+14 total 40 btc
[2024-02-20 11:06:41] Eluus : <-- never lost
[2024-02-20 11:06:45] Eluus : /since ``` :bitmex: Eluus has been on BitMEX since Aug 2, 2016. ```
[2024-02-20 11:06:50] Shawn-Williams : so after adopting this and multiple exhcanges
[2024-02-20 11:06:51] owl : guys, is it gonna acutally go? let us all join in and manifest this.
[2024-02-20 11:06:53] Eluus : /rpnl xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: 3.6502 XBT RPNL ```
[2024-02-20 11:06:54] Shawn-Williams : now doing better
[2024-02-20 11:06:57] Shawn-Williams : /since ``` :bitmex: Shawn-Williams has been on BitMEX since Jul 17, 2017. ```
[2024-02-20 11:07:06] owl : /position xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: 3,800,000 USD @ 47126.4639 ```
[2024-02-20 11:07:14] Eluus : owl: wow lol
[2024-02-20 11:07:15] owl : /since ``` :bitmex: owl has been on BitMEX since Aug 30, 2017. ```
[2024-02-20 11:07:31] Eluus : owl: show us rpnl
[2024-02-20 11:08:25] owl : /rpnl xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: 13.9476 XBT RPNL ```
[2024-02-20 11:08:32] Eluus : nice
[2024-02-20 11:08:59] Eluus : how much is it going to be at 250k?
[2024-02-20 11:09:52] owl : bro mans, i said this earlier, i need to do a quick tally, i know it sounds like hocus pocus palm reading shiz that your boho gf tried to try on you. but i need you to check your 2d4d ratio. please post results in the chat.
[2024-02-20 11:10:13] owl : "Second-to-fourth digit ratio predicts success among high-frequency financial traders"
[2024-02-20 11:10:17] owl : please, this is for science
[2024-02-20 11:10:34] Eluus : at 250k it will be 65.4348 @owl
[2024-02-20 11:10:57] owl : Eluus: it doesnt matter, do the finger thing
[2024-02-20 11:11:24] Eluus : owl: what's the finger thing?
[2024-02-20 11:11:43] owl : Eluus: 2d4d ratio, what is everyones
[2024-02-20 11:12:17] RippleX : 🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🦕🦕🦕🌘
[2024-02-20 11:12:26] owl : is it lower or higher
[2024-02-20 11:13:05] Dr.LongBear : RippleX: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyoxTAuOiUk
[2024-02-20 11:13:40] Eluus : mine is 7.3:7.3 = 1 @owl
[2024-02-20 11:14:04] Eluus : what does that mean?
[2024-02-20 11:15:17] RobVacation : https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.0810907106#:~:text=We%20found%20that%202D%3A4D,testosterone%20and%20in%20market%20volatility.
[2024-02-20 11:15:18] skiradot : Why this can't get down then? 😁
[2024-02-20 11:15:21] thesecretsimplykj : bears waited 5 days for a dump on ,ow volume hahaha and today volume roles in and there is not a single sell
[2024-02-20 11:15:57] RippleX : Dr.LongBear: :doge:
[2024-02-20 11:16:17] Eluus : wait it's more like 7:7.5 = 0.933
[2024-02-20 11:18:40] bluemaster : Shawn-Williams: I lost nothing on that dump ,but was dead inside ,lucky my age I use very little margin
[2024-02-20 11:19:01] Shawn-Williams : I have closed 200k in btc and opened the short of 60k
[2024-02-20 11:19:05] Shawn-Williams : both are in profit now
[2024-02-20 11:19:37] Shawn-Williams : bluemaster: Yes, i appreciate your ways but everyone have there ways
[2024-02-20 11:19:44] Shawn-Williams : Active and passive traders
[2024-02-20 11:19:49] bluemaster : Shawn-Williams: I agree
[2024-02-20 11:20:18] bluemaster : Shawn-Williams: I am shit trader and I know that
[2024-02-20 11:20:23] Shawn-Williams : but in bitcoin speculation, if you do not stay active then better hodl. But if you specualte in rangebound movements, then it can be really risk
[2024-02-20 11:22:18] Eluus : with all due respect, especially now that the ETF is in, Bitcoin market cap is so small, 1 wealthy buyer can move the markets, I don't understand how TA can work at all
[2024-02-20 11:22:43] thesecretsimplykj : Eluus: tell that the guys that draw lines on the chart
[2024-02-20 11:22:53] bluemaster : owl: well done mate ,congratulation nice to see some real traders
[2024-02-20 11:23:24] Eluus : back in 2010 before the FED started QE I used to predict crude oil price to the CENT, then with QE my method stopped working
[2024-02-20 11:23:54] RippleX : 🚀🚀🚀🚀🌘
[2024-02-20 11:24:11] owl : bluemaster: i just want to make enough btc so that my wife will love me for who i am
[2024-02-20 11:24:21] thesecretsimplykj : owl: :arthur:
[2024-02-20 11:24:28] Eluus : the ETFs who are buying do not even look at the past chart or price
[2024-02-20 11:24:45] RippleX : owl: :doge: 😄🩷
[2024-02-20 11:25:10] bluemaster : owl: how many wife's you have :pepe:
[2024-02-20 11:26:16] thesecretsimplykj : :pepe:
[2024-02-20 11:26:23] bluemaster : owl: I got fish and chips to my wife tonight and she is happy ..
[2024-02-20 11:26:51] thesecretsimplykj : bluemaster: that is such a beautiful thing to read 😍
[2024-02-20 11:27:11] thesecretsimplykj : If my next pepe is a rare one we teleport to 100K in 5 Minute Candle
[2024-02-20 11:27:14] thesecretsimplykj : :pepe:
[2024-02-20 11:27:17] thesecretsimplykj : :(((
[2024-02-20 11:29:52] RippleX : 🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀
[2024-02-20 11:30:05] rxr : when +20% day
[2024-02-20 11:30:50] thesecretsimplykj : tbh prolly this week
[2024-02-20 11:33:09] RippleX : :doge:
[2024-02-20 11:33:45] bluemaster : Eluus: I think you adn me trading like old commodity style traders ,this new kids are different
[2024-02-20 11:34:25] Eluus : I used to trade commodities very actively
[2024-02-20 11:34:41] bluemaster : Eluus: I can see that
[2024-02-20 11:34:53] Eluus : I just can't find a method to predict the price of bitcoin
[2024-02-20 11:34:58] RippleX : bluemaster: :doge:
[2024-02-20 11:35:10] Eluus : and it's so easy to profit trading bitcoin long term
[2024-02-20 11:35:33] Eluus : why bother really? just open a long at the lows and try to time the peak
[2024-02-20 11:37:00] bluemaster : Eluus: no one was able to do that with FTX,CZ,Celsius,3 arrow capital ,Barry and rest of scam artist ,I hope now will be different game https://www.ac.com.au/upload/turd.jpg
[2024-02-20 11:37:41] Eluus : last bull market when bitmex was in trouble my money was at ftx lol
[2024-02-20 11:37:53] Eluus : I got out in time
[2024-02-20 11:38:52] bluemaster : Eluus: I lost only on Mt Gox and looks I will get little bit back https://ac.com.au/upload/mtgox.jpg
[2024-02-20 11:39:39] Eluus : but since I'm low leverage and keep withdrawing funds as I profit I risked very little, only part pf my profits towards the end
[2024-02-20 11:40:12] Eluus : bluemaster: I told people to get out of mtgox
[2024-02-20 11:40:37] bluemaster : Eluus: we been burned and have PTSD I don;t want risk my btc just like you
[2024-02-20 11:40:38] Eluus : and luckily didnt have time to to arbitrage trading
[2024-02-20 11:40:55] RippleX : 🚀🚀🚀🚀
[2024-02-20 11:41:50] RobVacation : on right hand i got lower but on left hand higher,lol
[2024-02-20 11:42:44] RippleX : RobVacation: were we going next :doge:
[2024-02-20 11:42:50] Eluus : if i wasn't out of the city without any means to trade I'd have done arb on mtgox for sure
[2024-02-20 11:42:53] thesecretsimplykj : RobVacation: never touch keyboard with the bad hand and you are good :arthur:
[2024-02-20 11:43:23] Eluus : also got 1/3 of my funds blocked on bitfinex
[2024-02-20 11:44:14] Eluus : out of fear I bought bitcoins with the 2/3 of the funds straight away and then iwth the rest of it when finex finally paid
[2024-02-20 11:44:22] Eluus : and kept those bitcoins
[2024-02-20 11:44:27] Eluus : so I'm pretty lucky
[2024-02-20 11:44:59] owl : this thing needs to absolutely go north in like 5mins or I will lose my shiz. i am talking, punch a hole in the wall, scare the neighbors screaming at the top of my lungs, throw the pc out the window type shiz. LFG
[2024-02-20 11:45:17] Eluus : if finex hadn't got hacked i'd have kept doing arb
[2024-02-20 11:45:25] owl : countdown , lets manifest destiny boys
[2024-02-20 11:45:32] thesecretsimplykj : owl: there is an easy method to verify that sir
[2024-02-20 11:45:33] RobVacation : RippleX: north in long term.
[2024-02-20 11:45:50] RobVacation : thesecretsimplykj: haha
[2024-02-20 11:45:59] thesecretsimplykj : owl: ask pepe emoji - there are rare ones occasionally
[2024-02-20 11:46:02] bluemaster : Eluus: have you notice you have few guys HODL gang from 2012 --2013 here (on one hand you can count how many ) rest give up ...gone
[2024-02-20 11:46:03] thesecretsimplykj : :pepe:
[2024-02-20 11:46:08] thesecretsimplykj : ^^ normal one
[2024-02-20 11:46:15] RippleX : RobVacation: 🚀🚀🚀🚀🌘
[2024-02-20 11:46:20] owl : thesecretsimplykj: dude bro, how do you do it?
[2024-02-20 11:46:23] Eluus : bluemaster: yeah
[2024-02-20 11:46:25] thesecretsimplykj : If my next pepe is a rare one -> btc to blow up in next 5 minutes.
[2024-02-20 11:46:28] thesecretsimplykj : :pepe:
[2024-02-20 11:46:35] thesecretsimplykj : sad .. takes longer thatn 5 minutes
[2024-02-20 11:46:40] thesecretsimplykj : owl: :pepe :
[2024-02-20 11:46:48] thesecretsimplykj : owl: wiht out the space after the e
[2024-02-20 11:46:55] owl : :pepe:
[2024-02-20 11:46:58] owl : shiz
[2024-02-20 11:47:05] thesecretsimplykj : :(((
[2024-02-20 11:47:09] owl : we still have time
[2024-02-20 11:59:18] blaster33 : there is like 3000 BTC wall on bitfinex spot, we are probably going for it
[2024-02-20 11:59:50] RippleX : :doge:
[2024-02-20 12:00:54] Dr.LongBear : ***NO LIMIT PUMP***
[2024-02-20 12:01:29] RippleX : Dr.LongBear: look at my doge
[2024-02-20 12:01:48] Dr.LongBear : RippleX: I don't see it amigo
[2024-02-20 12:01:53] Dr.LongBear : U need to enable streaming
[2024-02-20 12:02:10] RippleX : 😋😄
[2024-02-20 12:03:06] RippleX : Dr.LongBear: k look now
[2024-02-20 12:03:18] bluemaster : https://twitter.com/Boomstick44/status/1759905292924658054
[2024-02-20 12:03:45] clarknova : bluemaster: XD
[2024-02-20 12:04:00] RippleX : bluemaster: :doge:
[2024-02-20 12:04:05] clarknova : bluemaster: apparently yes
[2024-02-20 12:04:05] Dr.LongBear : RippleX: nice, always on time
[2024-02-20 12:04:20] Dr.LongBear : we need copy trading so I can copy all your good positions lol
[2024-02-20 12:04:50] RippleX : Dr.LongBear: :doge: 😘
[2024-02-20 12:05:13] Dr.LongBear : did u hear of BitMEX_Mugu ? @RippleX he is a great admin maybe he'll dev the copy trading stuff, depend on the administration decision ;)
[2024-02-20 12:05:22] Dr.LongBear : otherwise I will myself code some copy trading bot lol
[2024-02-20 12:06:00] RippleX : Dr.LongBear: :doge:
[2024-02-20 12:07:19] RippleX : I don’t think it will work well
[2024-02-20 12:07:29] Dr.LongBear : why ?
[2024-02-20 12:07:45] RippleX : ppl get reckt blame others 😂😭😭😭
[2024-02-20 12:08:05] Dr.LongBear : I just want to open same position when you or ahmx open cross on alts lol
[2024-02-20 12:08:24] Dr.LongBear : lol people have to understand the risks of crypto trading
[2024-02-20 12:08:34] Dr.LongBear : it's highly speculative
[2024-02-20 12:08:47] RippleX : Dr.LongBear: u. Can see our trades now u can just manually copy 😄
[2024-02-20 12:09:01] RippleX : Don’t need a robot
[2024-02-20 12:09:05] Dr.LongBear : RippleX: I will if I were all the time on my computer
[2024-02-20 12:09:11] Dr.LongBear : humans have to sleep
[2024-02-20 12:09:24] RippleX : Dr.LongBear: fats :doge:
[2024-02-20 12:10:57] RippleX : Dr.LongBear: BTC 📈📉📈📉
[2024-02-20 12:11:06] VEGETA-WP : 53k incoming
[2024-02-20 12:11:35] RippleX : Let’s go 🌘🦕
[2024-02-20 12:11:46] bluemaster : Kids . This isn't a one month or one year bet. This is the bet of a lifetime.
[2024-02-20 12:12:13] RippleX : I’m all in xrp
[2024-02-20 12:12:20] RippleX : I can’t buy anymore
[2024-02-20 12:12:27] Eluus : Here we go, funding going crazy high again
[2024-02-20 12:12:49] RippleX : Eluus: what does that mean up or down
[2024-02-20 12:13:00] Eluus : for longs i mean it's bad
[2024-02-20 12:13:08] Eluus : if you're short you're rekt anyway so..
[2024-02-20 12:13:14] thesecretsimplykj : :arthur:
[2024-02-20 12:13:23] RippleX : Eluus: I’m long at
[2024-02-20 12:13:43] RippleX : long AF :doge:
[2024-02-20 12:13:47] Eluus : me too
[2024-02-20 12:14:06] Eluus : we're paying shorts a crazy amount
[2024-02-20 12:14:13] Eluus : who are getting/will get REKT anyway
[2024-02-20 12:14:39] thesecretsimplykj : its basically paying insurance fund of bitmex then :arthur:
[2024-02-20 12:14:52] RippleX : Eluus: I Never look at funding 😭😂😭
[2024-02-20 12:15:45] Eluus : if you don't hold as long as I do then it's not a big deal
[2024-02-20 12:16:25] Eluus : but I've so far have paid 0.5 btc to funding, on any other exchange I would've paid 0.3 so far at max
[2024-02-20 12:16:30] RippleX : Eluus: no I don’t I always close my long after a big bump max 8h
[2024-02-20 12:17:39] Eluus : Maybe I should start shorting here and longing an equal amount on another exchange just to profit from the funding
[2024-02-20 12:18:12] Eluus : Market makers should be doing this, where are they?
[2024-02-20 12:18:26] Eluus : they are not here because the fees are so fking high....
[2024-02-20 12:18:58] RippleX : Eluus: u think thay gona dump it ?
[2024-02-20 12:19:21] RippleX : Volume looks low
[2024-02-20 12:19:27] fiyah : Short the swap, longer the futures, as the high funding pushes the future premium up when you settle the postions you should be up
[2024-02-20 12:20:32] Eluus : RippleX: I don't think so. I think the ETFs are still net buyers. Futures exchanges are irrelevant atm. Spot is moving the price
[2024-02-20 12:20:47] RippleX : **Boooom**
[2024-02-20 12:20:52] RippleX : :doge:
[2024-02-20 12:21:24] RippleX : **Lesss Go**:doge:
[2024-02-20 12:21:25] doublecheese : Hello frens stock market crashing and crypto pamping? Lol
[2024-02-20 12:21:47] RippleX : doublecheese: realy 😭😂🚀🚀🌘
[2024-02-20 12:22:13] Eluus : doublecheese: Bitcoin is pumping forever now
[2024-02-20 12:22:17] doublecheese : I didn't get to eth but I kept btc long open, glad I did. Didn't want to overleverage
[2024-02-20 12:22:22] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated short on `XBTUSDT`: Buy 0.1600 XBT @ 52403.2 ($8,381.60)
[2024-02-20 12:22:24] Eluus : doublecheese: and Hello!
[2024-02-20 12:23:00] doublecheese : Eluus: starting to think so too, never seen bitcoin like this but I am in this space only since 2019
[2024-02-20 12:27:54] Kruithofb : Why is the orderbook so much higher then the mark price
[2024-02-20 12:30:49] RippleX : Eluus: https://x.com/xrp_x_/status/1759917066235285900?s=46&t=jfjzMbzSTEvjmwZqLsVFsQ
[2024-02-20 12:31:34] RippleX : looks like BTC mite dump wen market opens 👀
[2024-02-20 12:31:48] Eluus : Kruithofb: it's a problem here, basically because of high fees, lack of market makers
[2024-02-20 12:32:48] Eluus : RippleX: I'd be surprised
[2024-02-20 12:33:29] RippleX : Eluus: USA Is a blood both
[2024-02-20 12:35:01] RippleX : Eluus: eth stong. BTC week
[2024-02-20 12:35:56] doublecheese : RippleX: so tempted to buy eth but I would overleverage if I did :( I guess I'll just hold it spot
[2024-02-20 12:36:06] doublecheese : To long I mean
[2024-02-20 12:36:16] Eluus : RippleX: Vitalik can only pump so much
[2024-02-20 12:36:39] doublecheese : Eluus: etf is coming for eth tho
[2024-02-20 12:36:46] doublecheese : Too*
[2024-02-20 12:37:08] RippleX : doublecheese: wait for massage crash just chill. Now :doge:😘
[2024-02-20 12:37:52] doublecheese : RippleX: yeah I don't like buying tops even if local
[2024-02-20 12:37:58] Eluus : doublecheese: ETF is impossible for ETH
[2024-02-20 12:38:07] doublecheese : Eluus: why?
[2024-02-20 12:38:15] Eluus : 1. it's centralized
[2024-02-20 12:38:41] Eluus : 2. It's PoS, ETF would have to stake and govern
[2024-02-20 12:38:45] Eluus : 2*
[2024-02-20 12:40:24] doublecheese : Eluus: didn't think it was centralized, and I don't see how PoS poses a problem, but well I'm not too informed. Just heard rumors about eth etf in May so :D
[2024-02-20 12:40:59] Eluus : doublecheese: It's also 70% premined. It's basically a security
[2024-02-20 12:47:07] doublecheese : Eluus: still think eth is better than Bitcoin for many aspects tho. But yeah Bitcoin is the true store of value
[2024-02-20 12:49:35] Eluus : doublecheese: in what aspect Eth is better?
[2024-02-20 12:50:03] doublecheese : Eluus: smart contracts
[2024-02-20 12:50:07] doublecheese : Basically
[2024-02-20 12:50:54] Eluus : doublecheese: what's the use of smart contracts? It's also already doable on Bitcoin and much sleeker
[2024-02-20 12:51:12] RippleX : I need sleep cya 2moro :doge: :doge:
[2024-02-20 12:51:43] Eluus : doublecheese: without actually running/storing the code on the blockchain
[2024-02-20 12:51:52] Eluus : RippleX: cya
[2024-02-20 12:51:53] doublecheese : Eluus: that's just wrong. There's no real smart contract functionality on Bitcoin, that ordinals shits is Just exploiting a bug and needs to go away
[2024-02-20 12:52:13] Eluus : doublecheese: yeah agreed, I'm not talking about ordinals though
[2024-02-20 12:52:46] bluemaster : Eluus: don;t waste time , let them learn hard way ... this stage I don;t talk to anyone about bitcoin anymore
[2024-02-20 12:53:43] doublecheese : bluemaster: what's the matter dude? We're just sharing point of views, I am open to discussion, no Need to be harsh