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[2024-02-19 18:06:03] heybit2 : id like this to be fake and dump here
[2024-02-19 18:06:12] GRILL__THE_BERA71 : heybit2: need more fuel
[2024-02-19 18:06:17] GRILL__THE_BERA71 : to go up
[2024-02-19 18:06:22] Joeyy132 : 55555 was QUANTUM LONG. Don’t forget 😆😆
[2024-02-19 18:06:35] Joeyy132 : heybit2: it’s deffo fake
[2024-02-19 18:06:47] Joeyy132 : just gotta keep an eye on it
[2024-02-19 18:06:56] Joeyy132 : tomorrow or wednesday is the top for this week
[2024-02-19 18:07:19] Crypto_Cowboy_1982 : calm down guys
[2024-02-19 18:07:20] heybit2 : dump it then lol
[2024-02-19 18:07:21] Crypto_Cowboy_1982 : up only
[2024-02-19 18:07:25] Joeyy132 : Lots of big boys waiting to get out at 55555 lol
[2024-02-19 18:07:32] Crypto_Cowboy_1982 : /pnl xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: 2.4628 XBT RPNL, 0.0450 XBT UPNL ```
[2024-02-19 18:07:35] Joeyy132 : Underwater for a few years
[2024-02-19 18:07:38] Crypto_Cowboy_1982 : /pnl ethusd ``` :bitmex: ETHUSD: 0.2876 XBT RPNL, 0.0072 XBT UPNL ```
[2024-02-19 18:07:38] Joeyy132 : degens
[2024-02-19 18:07:43] Full Planche : Crypto_Cowboy_1982: cheers
[2024-02-19 18:07:43] Joeyy132 : Crypto_Cowboy_1982: nh wp
[2024-02-19 18:08:01] GRILL__THE_BERA71 : smel some kursk
[2024-02-19 18:08:04] Joeyy132 : Crypto_Cowboy_1982: u need exit liquidity we get it
[2024-02-19 18:08:20] Joeyy132 : 🤪
[2024-02-19 18:08:20] Crypto_Cowboy_1982 : i need more entries
[2024-02-19 18:08:25] heybit2 : Joeyy132: lol
[2024-02-19 18:08:28] Crypto_Cowboy_1982 : running on empty
[2024-02-19 18:08:42] Joeyy132 : Lol don’t rekt yourself naye that’s nice profit there. Shame to long the top even more
[2024-02-19 18:08:43] Crypto_Cowboy_1982 : saturday was a nice entry in the 50s
[2024-02-19 18:09:01] Crypto_Cowboy_1982 : don't have anything open really :(
[2024-02-19 18:09:02] Joeyy132 : Crypto_Cowboy_1982: oh yes becuase weekends are known for theirs great entries ……
[2024-02-19 18:09:03] heybit2 : good job
[2024-02-19 18:09:18] Joeyy132 : Weekend was 1 whale dumping
[2024-02-19 18:09:21] Joeyy132 : i wonder what he knows
[2024-02-19 18:09:22] Crypto_Cowboy_1982 : Joeyy132: sweet from 50,600 to 52,000
[2024-02-19 18:09:35] Joeyy132 : Crypto_Cowboy_1982: will be very short lived
[2024-02-19 18:09:48] Crypto_Cowboy_1982 : Joeyy132: true
[2024-02-19 18:09:56] Crypto_Cowboy_1982 : until US$1bn ETF buys tomorrow
[2024-02-19 18:10:02] Crypto_Cowboy_1982 : the game has changed
[2024-02-19 18:10:06] Joeyy132 : Financial crisis in March according to :arthur:
[2024-02-19 18:10:07] Crypto_Cowboy_1982 : adapt
[2024-02-19 18:10:09] Joeyy132 : hehehe
[2024-02-19 18:10:26] Joeyy132 : Covid dump 2020 march
[2024-02-19 18:10:28] Joeyy132 : lfg
[2024-02-19 18:10:32] Crypto_Cowboy_1982 : or just hand over your crypto to this cowboy
[2024-02-19 18:10:40] Crypto_Cowboy_1982 : either way, i'm easy
[2024-02-19 18:10:40] thesecretsimplykj : ^
[2024-02-19 18:10:47] Joeyy132 : Yes arthur is a top scammer so I’ll take it with a pinch of salt
[2024-02-19 18:10:51] Crypto_Cowboy_1982 : thanks for the profits
[2024-02-19 18:11:11] Joeyy132 : But what he said makes a lot of sense
[2024-02-19 18:11:17] Joeyy132 : markets are illogical tho
[2024-02-19 18:11:18] Joeyy132 : hmmmm
[2024-02-19 18:11:40] Joeyy132 : All I know is everyone buying here will rekt if they don’t get out soon
[2024-02-19 18:11:59] Joeyy132 : Bluemaster will end up poor af because he never sells
[2024-02-19 18:12:01] Joeyy132 : crazy guy
[2024-02-19 18:12:20] Full Planche : Joeyy132: he takes profits quite often actually
[2024-02-19 18:12:41] Joeyy132 : Full Planche: he takes profits on trades but never sells the profit for fiat
[2024-02-19 18:12:47] Joeyy132 : so not really taking profits lol
[2024-02-19 18:12:50] Joeyy132 : just staking sats
[2024-02-19 18:12:56] Joeyy132 : which will end up worthless
[2024-02-19 18:13:08] Full Planche : Sats will end up worthless?
[2024-02-19 18:13:11] Crypto_Cowboy_1982 : who in their right mind sells sats for fiat?!
[2024-02-19 18:13:12] Joeyy132 : stacking sats
[2024-02-19 18:13:15] Crypto_Cowboy_1982 : lol
[2024-02-19 18:13:16] Joeyy132 : yes
[2024-02-19 18:13:20] Crypto_Cowboy_1982 : stack and stack more
[2024-02-19 18:13:30] Full Planche : Joeyy132: based on what?
[2024-02-19 18:13:34] Joeyy132 : satoshis will end up worthless when btc goes back to 0
[2024-02-19 18:13:39] Crypto_Cowboy_1982 : Joeyy132: all credibility lost
[2024-02-19 18:13:40] Joeyy132 : eventually it will
[2024-02-19 18:13:41] Crypto_Cowboy_1982 : sorry
[2024-02-19 18:13:45] Joeyy132 : so he needs to sell at some point
[2024-02-19 18:13:56] Full Planche : Crypto_Cowboy_1982: xD
[2024-02-19 18:13:56] Joeyy132 : Crypto_Cowboy_1982: you think number go up forever?
[2024-02-19 18:14:06] Joeyy132 : Of course it will go to 0
[2024-02-19 18:14:11] Joeyy132 : maybe it takes 10 years but it will
[2024-02-19 18:14:12] Crypto_Cowboy_1982 : it certainly won't go to zero
[2024-02-19 18:14:17] heybit2 : maybe 1.3 per btc not zero man
[2024-02-19 18:14:19] Joeyy132 : 0.00001 obv nothing goes to true 0
[2024-02-19 18:14:33] Crypto_Cowboy_1982 : heybit2: 1.3 million
[2024-02-19 18:14:34] heybit2 : then adoption start
[2024-02-19 18:14:41] Joeyy132 : But 1 dolla is as good as 0
[2024-02-19 18:14:42] heybit2 : 1k
[2024-02-19 18:14:52] Crypto_Cowboy_1982 : 1 million
[2024-02-19 18:14:53] Joeyy132 : I know nothing goes to 0
[2024-02-19 18:15:00] Crypto_Cowboy_1982 : urgh, trollbox
[2024-02-19 18:15:17] Joeyy132 : Crypto_Cowboy_1982: cmon man you know it will go to shit when the next big thing comes along
[2024-02-19 18:15:28] Full Planche : Just trade the trend. Its been up since 2023
[2024-02-19 18:15:38] Joeyy132 : i Honetsly beleive within 10 years crypto won’t even be a thing lol
[2024-02-19 18:15:51] Joeyy132 : i got nothing agaisnt it and used to be a bulliever. Now I’m just realsitic
[2024-02-19 18:16:09] Joeyy132 : There will be another fad to floor your fiat into
[2024-02-19 18:16:15] Joeyy132 : flood
[2024-02-19 18:16:22] Joeyy132 : Another craze
[2024-02-19 18:16:28] Joeyy132 : maybe tulips come back into fashion
[2024-02-19 18:16:30] Joeyy132 : you never know
[2024-02-19 18:16:42] Joeyy132 : 1 btc = 1 tulip
[2024-02-19 18:16:53] Joeyy132 : 1btc =1 fidget spinner maybe
[2024-02-19 18:17:26] thesecretsimplykj : crypto about to become the 12th sector of economy, thats what we will see - another asset class
[2024-02-19 18:17:31] Joeyy132 : The only reason to buy btc is to sell it for more lol
[2024-02-19 18:17:40] Joeyy132 : So great
[2024-02-19 18:17:44] Bot42 : Joeyy132: ponzi stuff
[2024-02-19 18:17:48] thesecretsimplykj : blockchain and stuff are understoof by few
[2024-02-19 18:17:50] Joeyy132 : Literally
[2024-02-19 18:17:59] Full Planche : Joeyy132: yeah but stocks same thing, commodities same thing
[2024-02-19 18:18:00] Bot42 : Joeyy132: you can embrace the ponzi
[2024-02-19 18:18:05] Full Planche : You dont buy it to sell lower
[2024-02-19 18:18:05] Joeyy132 : thesecretsimplykj: I get blockchain but that brings no value to btc
[2024-02-19 18:18:21] Joeyy132 : Full Planche: not entirely the same
[2024-02-19 18:18:25] thesecretsimplykj : Full Planche: yep exactly
[2024-02-19 18:18:41] thesecretsimplykj : Joeyy132: it is the same because we exchange it
[2024-02-19 18:18:41] Joeyy132 : Ponzi has been embraced already worldwide
[2024-02-19 18:18:41] Bot42 : Full Planche: investing in a stock isnt just speculation, you are funding a business
[2024-02-19 18:18:48] Joeyy132 : We have reached the end of the line
[2024-02-19 18:19:08] Full Planche : Bot42: its still speculating. Ofc there is nothing backing btc, but what is your fiat backed by?
[2024-02-19 18:19:22] Full Planche : Fake promises and scammy governments
[2024-02-19 18:19:22] Joeyy132 : Full Planche: fiat is backed by the army of that country
[2024-02-19 18:19:25] thesecretsimplykj : I mean its pointless to discuss that, we see on the next ath how people think of that
[2024-02-19 18:19:38] Joeyy132 : Other than that nothi no backs fiat
[2024-02-19 18:19:49] Full Planche : I would trust a protocol more than a government
[2024-02-19 18:19:53] Full Planche : But hey thats me
[2024-02-19 18:19:54] Joeyy132 : thesecretsimplykj: there won’t be another ath
[2024-02-19 18:19:57] heybit2 : most liquidity is only derivatives. only bit found hold the actual stocks often
[2024-02-19 18:20:03] Joeyy132 : the 69,420 meme is solid
[2024-02-19 18:20:03] heybit2 : is mostly*
[2024-02-19 18:20:05] Joeyy132 : solid
[2024-02-19 18:20:13] Joeyy132 : meme tops are a thing
[2024-02-19 18:20:16] Bot42 : Joeyy132: solid meme
[2024-02-19 18:20:17] Crypto_Cowboy_1982 : ok guys, all very interesting
[2024-02-19 18:20:19] Crypto_Cowboy_1982 : but
[2024-02-19 18:20:27] Crypto_Cowboy_1982 : the important question
[2024-02-19 18:20:28] thesecretsimplykj : Joeyy132: :(
[2024-02-19 18:20:31] Crypto_Cowboy_1982 : when moon?
[2024-02-19 18:20:37] Joeyy132 : It’s like the final fuck you to all btc “investors” a 69420 top
[2024-02-19 18:20:40] Joeyy132 : cmon
[2024-02-19 18:20:44] Joeyy132 : will go down in history for sure
[2024-02-19 18:20:46] Crypto_Cowboy_1982 : when the big green snake?
[2024-02-19 18:20:48] thesecretsimplykj : its called trollbox for a reason haha just funny ;)
[2024-02-19 18:20:59] Joeyy132 : thesecretsimplykj: 69420 will never break
[2024-02-19 18:21:15] Joeyy132 : Crypto_Cowboy_1982: u mean when noom
[2024-02-19 18:21:18] Crypto_Cowboy_1982 : 69 will LITERALLY break this year
[2024-02-19 18:21:22] thesecretsimplykj : yep we got some years to come to time the tops ;)
[2024-02-19 18:21:26] Crypto_Cowboy_1982 : probably pre halving
[2024-02-19 18:21:33] GoldFish79 : *Furrrtardz...*......
[2024-02-19 18:21:38] Joeyy132 : I hope u are right but I doubt it extremely
[2024-02-19 18:21:38] GoldFish79 : 💦 :me: 💦
[2024-02-19 18:21:39] doublecheese : I am so tempted to buy eth but I don't want to close my long on btc too. :( if I open both I am gonna overleverage
[2024-02-19 18:21:45] heybit2 : damp here you moon boys
[2024-02-19 18:21:48] heybit2 : :D
[2024-02-19 18:21:49] Joeyy132 : Crypto_Cowboy_1982: I hope ur right but don’t rely on hope
[2024-02-19 18:21:52] Joeyy132 : meme too stronk
[2024-02-19 18:21:58] Crypto_Cowboy_1982 : hopium mate
[2024-02-19 18:21:59] thesecretsimplykj : there is no hope needed
[2024-02-19 18:22:03] Crypto_Cowboy_1982 : smoke it good
[2024-02-19 18:22:03] heybit2 : lol
[2024-02-19 18:22:09] Joeyy132 : I don’t smoke hopium
[2024-02-19 18:22:09] thesecretsimplykj : every on chain data ever extraced from btc is pointing to that
[2024-02-19 18:22:10] Joeyy132 : i tp
[2024-02-19 18:22:13] Crypto_Cowboy_1982 : for big green snake riding a rocket
[2024-02-19 18:22:23] heybit2 : it s all over
[2024-02-19 18:22:24] Joeyy132 : thesecretsimplykj: on chain data is manipulation too
[2024-02-19 18:22:31] Joeyy132 : Very easy to manipulate
[2024-02-19 18:22:40] thesecretsimplykj : Joeyy132: there is no manipulation in here :)
[2024-02-19 18:22:47] Joeyy132 : thesecretsimplykj: 😆😜
[2024-02-19 18:22:59] heybit2 : my last famous words were said
[2024-02-19 18:23:23] BTCcheers : https://www.tradingview.com/x/cXKPVTmC/ btc starting to clone my trendz bully lezgoo juz buyeet
[2024-02-19 18:23:30] Joeyy132 : Just make sure you short and enjoy the incoming capitulation
[2024-02-19 18:23:36] Joeyy132 : capitualtion is painful when ur not short
[2024-02-19 18:23:52] Full Planche : Joeyy132: shorting against a trend since 2023 is painful
[2024-02-19 18:24:07] Joeyy132 : Full Planche: yes but trend is bending
[2024-02-19 18:24:13] Full Planche : Ive seen you screaming 7k all year
[2024-02-19 18:24:21] Joeyy132 : And it’s a bull trend in a bearmarket lol
[2024-02-19 18:24:45] Joeyy132 : Full Planche: no bro u swing trade u must have missed when I longed 42.5
[2024-02-19 18:24:51] thesecretsimplykj : Joeyy132: in a 12 year bullmarket
[2024-02-19 18:25:03] thesecretsimplykj : :arthur:
[2024-02-19 18:25:08] Joeyy132 : thesecretsimplykj: true lol even more reason to be cautious
[2024-02-19 18:25:16] Joeyy132 : Longin here is suicide
[2024-02-19 18:25:27] Joeyy132 : Proper moronic stuff
[2024-02-19 18:25:53] Joeyy132 : Full Planche: my call is 11k btw
[2024-02-19 18:26:02] heybit2 : 12k
[2024-02-19 18:26:03] thesecretsimplykj : time to wake up, brothers and sisters - some here sound like someone who cant explain a certain topic and manipulation and that stuff with half knowledge is the answer
[2024-02-19 18:26:05] Joeyy132 : Never said 7 not even ince
[2024-02-19 18:26:09] thesecretsimplykj : <3
[2024-02-19 18:26:13] Full Planche : That i agree on. Longing on lev around these levels without risk management is suicide@Joeyy132
[2024-02-19 18:26:14] Joeyy132 : heybit2: plz don’t fron run me
[2024-02-19 18:26:21] heybit2 : lol i ll move the market
[2024-02-19 18:26:47] jjhiijiji : remember joeys retard4d 11k call
[2024-02-19 18:26:52] jjhiijiji : when are at new ATH
[2024-02-19 18:27:00] thesecretsimplykj : better embrace the true facts the market shows and trade accordingly - make money and we all fine instead of crystallballing highs or lows
[2024-02-19 18:27:06] Full Planche : There were plenty of entry points to be had, now just tp and chill
[2024-02-19 18:27:16] Joeyy132 : thesecretsimplykj: 11k is coming look 2W and minthly
[2024-02-19 18:27:40] Joeyy132 : Join bottoms ignore fake 15k bottom until it’s confirmed
[2024-02-19 18:27:55] Joeyy132 : whwre does line go?
[2024-02-19 18:28:08] Joeyy132 : last bottom was 3.6k
[2024-02-19 18:28:11] thesecretsimplykj : where in the world do I see 11k on monthly
[2024-02-19 18:28:22] thesecretsimplykj : except for drawing lines that are useless
[2024-02-19 18:28:25] Joeyy132 : Just draw trendline joining bottoms
[2024-02-19 18:28:33] heybit2 : this week will shadow like a rocket
[2024-02-19 18:28:34] Joeyy132 : they are not useless you know this
[2024-02-19 18:28:44] Joeyy132 : all my lines keep getting revisited
[2024-02-19 18:28:49] Joeyy132 : so they clearly work
[2024-02-19 18:29:11] Joeyy132 : I draw a line starting months ago and it gets hit months later. All the time
[2024-02-19 18:29:22] thesecretsimplykj : the market does not show an 80% retrace from here currently
[2024-02-19 18:29:26] thesecretsimplykj : why would I speculate on that
[2024-02-19 18:29:32] Joeyy132 : Even my smaller tf lines act like magnets
[2024-02-19 18:29:40] Joeyy132 : thesecretsimplykj: because it does
[2024-02-19 18:30:07] Joeyy132 : Add me on telegram I show u my chart
[2024-02-19 18:30:36] heybit2 : bulls are delusional
[2024-02-19 18:30:45] thesecretsimplykj : Joeyy132: no it does not
[2024-02-19 18:31:08] thesecretsimplykj : Joeyy132: I can draw a line pointing the two 68K tops
[2024-02-19 18:31:14] thesecretsimplykj : and hint at 100K
[2024-02-19 18:31:16] Joeyy132 : thesecretsimplykj: just set chart to 2W zoom all the way out and trendline the bottoms
[2024-02-19 18:31:19] thesecretsimplykj : does that mean we will do it now
[2024-02-19 18:31:21] Joeyy132 : its really simple
[2024-02-19 18:31:35] thesecretsimplykj : thats not ta
[2024-02-19 18:31:39] thesecretsimplykj : thats lines drawing :D
[2024-02-19 18:31:58] Joeyy132 : thesecretsimplykj: yes but if you know how to draw your lines correctly then they work
[2024-02-19 18:32:00] Joeyy132 : all the time
[2024-02-19 18:32:12] thesecretsimplykj : nop they just show confluence points
[2024-02-19 18:32:21] thesecretsimplykj : one cant be sure they held be tagged or anything else
[2024-02-19 18:32:38] Joeyy132 : Mine act like magnets. Many don’t draw valid lines
[2024-02-19 18:33:01] thesecretsimplykj : sir even the strongestz lines get broken if there are enough buys/sells
[2024-02-19 18:33:03] thesecretsimplykj : just math
[2024-02-19 18:33:13] Joeyy132 : thesecretsimplykj: And then get revisited yes
[2024-02-19 18:33:28] Joeyy132 : 11k is coming
[2024-02-19 18:33:36] Joeyy132 : can go as low as 8 even lower on a wick
[2024-02-19 18:33:51] thesecretsimplykj : if the levele before 11k lets say 18K holds
[2024-02-19 18:33:56] thesecretsimplykj : 11k doesnt get visited
[2024-02-19 18:33:58] Full Planche : Joeyy132: i wish you are right. Then i can load the boat
[2024-02-19 18:34:04] Joeyy132 : Full Planche: I am right
[2024-02-19 18:34:04] thesecretsimplykj : on this time you cant be sure 11k is visited
[2024-02-19 18:34:07] Joeyy132 : cant say when tho
[2024-02-19 18:34:13] Full Planche : But takes a big meltdown,black swan event
[2024-02-19 18:34:14] thesecretsimplykj : its as easy as that :D
[2024-02-19 18:34:20] Joeyy132 : it can go 11k as late as end of 2025
[2024-02-19 18:34:23] Joeyy132 : by my chart
[2024-02-19 18:34:25] Full Planche : Joeyy132: so far ur not
[2024-02-19 18:34:50] Joeyy132 : Any time between now and end of 2025
[2024-02-19 18:35:14] Joeyy132 : After 2025 yeah it can’t go so low unless it’s all over. P
[2024-02-19 18:35:52] thesecretsimplykj : lets say we dump when the market decides to - we visit 18K and it holds and we use ath. You will just readjust your line to fit it :D
[2024-02-19 18:35:54] Joeyy132 : Full Planche: it really doesn’t even take a black swan. This whole run up from 15k is on little volume
[2024-02-19 18:35:54] thesecretsimplykj : thats not ta
[2024-02-19 18:35:58] thesecretsimplykj : thats drawing lines
[2024-02-19 18:36:24] Joeyy132 : thesecretsimplykj: no lol there are points of interest in the past that can’t just be ignored and readjusted
[2024-02-19 18:36:35] thesecretsimplykj : :(
[2024-02-19 18:36:42] Full Planche : Joeyy132: look at the volumes of the btc etfs, they are in the top 10 volume group of all etfs
[2024-02-19 18:36:46] Full Planche : Thats nonsense bro
[2024-02-19 18:36:52] Joeyy132 : But that’s not bitcoin
[2024-02-19 18:36:57] Joeyy132 : an etf is fake bitcoin
[2024-02-19 18:37:29] thesecretsimplykj : Joeyy132: @Full Planche did an actual analysis with that
[2024-02-19 18:37:34] Full Planche : Go read the prospectus
[2024-02-19 18:37:36] thesecretsimplykj : not drawing lines :)
[2024-02-19 18:37:52] thesecretsimplykj : that is very well influencing btc as this is the underlying asset of the etf
[2024-02-19 18:38:01] thesecretsimplykj : or do etf buys of msci not influence ´the underlying assets
[2024-02-19 18:38:04] Joeyy132 : Since they clamped down a little bit on wash trading and sbf got kicked away
[2024-02-19 18:38:07] Joeyy132 : all the volume is gone
[2024-02-19 18:38:08] jjhiijiji : dude you are trying to reason with someone about fundamentals who thinks the market is all about 'lines'
[2024-02-19 18:38:21] Joeyy132 : And what little we still have is mostly wash trades still
[2024-02-19 18:39:07] Full Planche : Joeyy132: back that up with actual data, the washtrading
[2024-02-19 18:39:14] thesecretsimplykj : ^
[2024-02-19 18:39:46] LickMyBulls : He can't he's talking nonsense again.
[2024-02-19 18:40:30] BTCcheers : https://www.tradingview.com/x/TxLbY236/ btc who let the dawgz out
[2024-02-19 18:40:57] Joeyy132 : Excahnges are just putting fake trades that never even happen in their centralised system to give the illusion of people trading this shit. Hardly anyone really does. U can find data of wash trading on google
[2024-02-19 18:41:03] thesecretsimplykj : its like people saying gbtc sells, we go down and then we pump to 52K because demand > supply on chain
[2024-02-19 18:41:12] jjhiijiji : all he dous is spout sh!t this guiy
[2024-02-19 18:41:32] thesecretsimplykj : Joeyy132: what bro please, give me the data for that man
[2024-02-19 18:41:38] heybit2 : fastenn seatbelt
[2024-02-19 18:41:42] thesecretsimplykj : you cant believe yourself
[2024-02-19 18:41:47] Joeyy132 : The high volume spikes are where there is a some real trades happening
[2024-02-19 18:42:12] Joeyy132 : all Low volume is all fake. 90% of transaction are wash trades
[2024-02-19 18:42:13] Full Planche : Watch what happened with traditional etfs like qqq or spy, when stocks were added. Also how those etfs influence prices of the underlying assets
[2024-02-19 18:42:38] thesecretsimplykj : where can I see hints to those short trades
[2024-02-19 18:42:43] thesecretsimplykj : I sincerely wanna know
[2024-02-19 18:42:53] thesecretsimplykj : cause I cant see evidence, maybe I dont know something here
[2024-02-19 18:42:56] thesecretsimplykj : :)
[2024-02-19 18:43:04] thesecretsimplykj : wash*
[2024-02-19 18:43:18] Joeyy132 : They run it up on low volume fake 0.001 trades so that retail and other traders put orders to buy at “support” so they have liquidity to dump it
[2024-02-19 18:43:35] Full Planche : Joeyy132: at low volume exchanges and poop coins yes, but no way its above 10% on btc
[2024-02-19 18:43:49] Full Planche : More in the few percentage
[2024-02-19 18:43:52] Joeyy132 : Nobody is really buying it’s easy to make price go up when nobody is selling lol
[2024-02-19 18:43:57] thesecretsimplykj : you sound like a fanatic that repeats his stuff to itself man
[2024-02-19 18:44:12] Joeyy132 : until they sell and then it’s one red candle cancels out 10 days of “organic growth “ lol
[2024-02-19 18:44:31] Joeyy132 : Everything above 30k in this run is fake and we will be back there in no time
[2024-02-19 18:44:42] Joeyy132 : thesecretsimplykj: nah man it’s just truth
[2024-02-19 18:44:43] thesecretsimplykj : we wont see 30Ks ever again
[2024-02-19 18:44:46] Joeyy132 : thesecretsimplykj: lol
[2024-02-19 18:44:49] Joeyy132 : troll
[2024-02-19 18:45:07] thesecretsimplykj : thats most probably the thruth on the current date
[2024-02-19 18:45:11] Joeyy132 : I won’t even screenshot that to throw back at ya when we get there coz I know ur joking
[2024-02-19 18:45:33] Crypto_Cowboy_1982 : Joeyy132: deluded
[2024-02-19 18:45:53] jjhiijiji : Crypto_Cowboy_1982: extremely
[2024-02-19 18:45:56] thesecretsimplykj : I kinda hope Im wrong with the 38.6K spring and two months reaccumulation that happenend in dec/jan my friend
[2024-02-19 18:45:58] heybit2 : down on the ground
[2024-02-19 18:45:58] Joeyy132 : Crypto_Cowboy_1982: no bro
[2024-02-19 18:45:59] Full Planche : If traditional markets stay elevated where they are, hard to see btc falling more than 20-30%
[2024-02-19 18:46:03] Crypto_Cowboy_1982 : hope you didn't miss out on all the cheap corn
[2024-02-19 18:46:04] thesecretsimplykj : else its a low chance we visit 30Ks again
[2024-02-19 18:46:09] Crypto_Cowboy_1982 : because those days are behind us
[2024-02-19 18:46:11] thesecretsimplykj : thats what data and research suggests
[2024-02-19 18:46:44] Joeyy132 : Crypto_Cowboy_1982: I started buying at 800usd . Deffo don’t miss the cheap corn lol
[2024-02-19 18:47:02] thesecretsimplykj : 20% drop from 0.618 fib (49K) to 38.6K was a healthy 22 % drop we are in new leg phase
[2024-02-19 18:47:19] thesecretsimplykj : 50-52K like I said will be the LPSY, if we finish this there is no hiding for bears
[2024-02-19 18:47:21] heybit2 : satoshi came back yesterday calling
[2024-02-19 18:47:33] Joeyy132 : Full Planche: Akos there’s a financial crisis in March according to arthur so bear that in mind short term
[2024-02-19 18:47:40] heybit2 : he said he is dumping cause he hates all corporation
[2024-02-19 18:47:55] Full Planche : Joeyy132: would love to see that. Yet i dont care about predictions
[2024-02-19 18:47:58] thesecretsimplykj : Joeyy132: https://insights.glassnode.com/the-week-onchain-week-07-2024/ here if you want data combined in a 6 minute read, real analysis
[2024-02-19 18:48:04] heybit2 : guy satoshi called
[2024-02-19 18:48:15] Full Planche : All these fortune tellers are more wrong than right
[2024-02-19 18:48:18] heybit2 : he said he wat to dump you are werned
[2024-02-19 18:48:36] Joeyy132 : Crypto_Cowboy_1982: cheap @thesecretsimplykj ty for link have saved it to read later
[2024-02-19 18:49:10] Joeyy132 : If u guys been here since 2016 you should know how the game goes
[2024-02-19 18:49:13] Joeyy132 : nothing changed
[2024-02-19 18:49:39] thesecretsimplykj : 2016 was east > west - today we have by far west > east
[2024-02-19 18:49:41] Joeyy132 : I miss the cheap Bitconnect days
[2024-02-19 18:49:43] heybit2 : thesecretsimplykj: thx nice
[2024-02-19 18:49:54] Joeyy132 : thesecretsimplykj: I don’t know what that means
[2024-02-19 18:50:06] thesecretsimplykj : that means that west is controlling btc fully since 2023
[2024-02-19 18:50:42] thesecretsimplykj : thats why the bottom is flat after sbf got flushed and we dont do a pre bullmarket sharp rally into dumpage, we steadily increased for one year with continuous 20% dumps on the way
[2024-02-19 18:51:26] thesecretsimplykj : literally everything changed since 2016 in this market and this is what people will bitterly pay if they dont recognize this cycle
[2024-02-19 18:53:12] thesecretsimplykj : 2021 a double top with the second top being higher - never happened. people need to think twice if they call for sure pre halving dump
[2024-02-19 18:54:03] Joeyy132 : thesecretsimplykj: you make some good obvservation
[2024-02-19 18:54:27] Joeyy132 : i think this cycle is deiffernt because it’s the last one before it all goes to sh1t lol
[2024-02-19 18:54:30] Joeyy132 : just a hunch
[2024-02-19 18:54:41] Joeyy132 : So they need maximum exit liquidty
[2024-02-19 18:54:52] Joeyy132 : Very valid points you make
[2024-02-19 18:57:18] thesecretsimplykj : yeah I dont allow myself to do predictions at the future as a trader. It may all go to shit after next ath but here the data suggests different outcomes
[2024-02-19 18:57:21] thesecretsimplykj : <3
[2024-02-19 18:57:33] thesecretsimplykj : we all in this together boys and girls
[2024-02-19 18:58:44] thesecretsimplykj : dont forget in these years blackrock teammeetings the narrative of "pre halving dumps 100% before ath" amongst btc traders was the entrance joke to discuss future investments haha
[2024-02-19 19:06:58] GRILL__THE_BERA71 : ups fake bounec canceled
[2024-02-19 19:07:11] GRILL__THE_BERA71 : nukezi
[2024-02-19 19:07:42] Eluus : I will move my funds out of Bitmex asap
[2024-02-19 19:07:51] Eluus : This exchange is horrible to long
[2024-02-19 19:08:07] Eluus : funding always so expensive
[2024-02-19 19:08:35] Eluus : I've paid half a bitcoin for funding already ffs
[2024-02-19 19:08:56] Eluus : other exchanges have 0.01, here it is 0.0377
[2024-02-19 19:09:02] jjhiijiji : how big is ur pos?
[2024-02-19 19:09:05] jjhiijiji : ;p
[2024-02-19 19:09:06] jjhiijiji : goddamn
[2024-02-19 19:09:12] Eluus : 400000 contracts
[2024-02-19 19:09:13] Shawn-Williams : Bot movement has stopped and players entered in market. Its a big boy movement and he is brining it down.
[2024-02-19 19:09:28] fcarvas : Market flush is coming
[2024-02-19 19:09:35] Eluus : also the order book is empty here
[2024-02-19 19:09:56] GRILL__THE_BERA71 : beras staring to wror
[2024-02-19 19:09:59] GRILL__THE_BERA71 : good
[2024-02-19 19:10:08] GRILL__THE_BERA71 : more to grill
[2024-02-19 19:12:00] jjhiijiji : ive complained about fees in the past too especially for alts
[2024-02-19 19:12:02] Bubblemania : thesecretsimplykj: well, thinking of next ATH is guaranteed is an assumption based on past performance. I am cautious with such assumptions once it invalidated one of its other past behaviour - closed below former ATH which never happened before.
[2024-02-19 19:12:03] Shawn-Williams : well if it goes up or down or sideways, money is always made on every move. No bull and no bear, just trader
[2024-02-19 19:12:21] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 5500 USD @ 51789.5
[2024-02-19 19:12:28] LickMyBulls : Funding on alts is a joke here.
[2024-02-19 19:12:50] jjhiijiji : even on btc at this moment 0.377% come on
[2024-02-19 19:12:56] jjhiijiji : 0.03*
[2024-02-19 19:13:55] The Emerging Bull : /position xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: -25,000 USD @ 52429.0373 ```
[2024-02-19 19:14:11] Kruithofb : /position ethusdt ``` :bitmex: ETHUSDT: -0.2 ETH @ 2950 ```
[2024-02-19 19:14:17] Kruithofb : Small lol
[2024-02-19 19:14:37] Kruithofb : The Emerging Bull: took profits on the dump?
[2024-02-19 19:15:18] The Emerging Bull : Yes closed 10k already. Adding at 52.6 as expect a dump this week.
[2024-02-19 19:15:39] The Emerging Bull : Could dump from here or could go to 53.9
[2024-02-19 19:15:51] thesecretsimplykj : Bubblemania: did I say guaranteed. I cant remember in that whole convo we had. You are obviously right, its the same view as its guaranteed we pre halving dump :) I would say here above 0.618 retracement of the whole bear cycle and being very near to the top coming from a reaccumulation the probability of doing ath or going to 11K is clearly in favour of the bullish cases.
[2024-02-19 19:16:41] thesecretsimplykj : I normally dont use the word guaranteed ever lol
[2024-02-19 19:16:53] thesecretsimplykj : that sounds like my counter part in that convo haha
[2024-02-19 19:18:25] Kruithofb : The Emerging Bull: i also think around 535 the top
[2024-02-19 19:19:07] The Emerging Bull : yes, me too. Adding there if we get there ut decent chance we topped for a bit as well.
[2024-02-19 19:19:49] Kruithofb : Ether max 3050-3100
[2024-02-19 19:20:03] thesecretsimplykj : and btc invalidated one of its old behaviours :P like I said with the 68K top (Double Top - never happened like that). Prehalving Bullrun never was steady like this. Always about some weeks/months hardcore and then hard rejected at 0.618 into pre halving dump.
[2024-02-19 19:20:54] thesecretsimplykj : I 100% eye on 53.4K from here into dump to 44-45K Range into ath. but thats what the market need to show with data and stuff.
[2024-02-19 19:22:38] thesecretsimplykj : that would at least be the absolute swing traders dream
[2024-02-19 19:23:53] jjhiijiji : thesecretsimplykj: +1 on ur general take on things
[2024-02-19 19:24:09] thesecretsimplykj : but we can go ath from consolidation here - thats not invalidated until dump under 48.4K. Initially on 42K Range the signs showed 50-52K range for LPSY (Last Point of Supply) and then over 55K.
[2024-02-19 19:24:12] thesecretsimplykj : still intact
[2024-02-19 19:24:17] thesecretsimplykj : jjhiijiji: <3#
[2024-02-19 19:24:20] thesecretsimplykj : <3
[2024-02-19 19:25:32] thesecretsimplykj : basically thats the whole play book what I write here lmao
[2024-02-19 19:26:24] RobVacation : the observation gives you the best tips of all.
[2024-02-19 19:26:49] rxr : bitcoin already ATH in japanese yen
[2024-02-19 19:26:51] rxr : time for USD
[2024-02-19 19:27:07] rxr : governments only know how to devalue their currency
[2024-02-19 19:27:09] rxr : so bitcoin can only go up
[2024-02-19 19:27:13] rxr : simple
[2024-02-19 19:27:45] rxr : buy all dips
[2024-02-19 19:28:02] jjhiijiji : Bubblemania: i believe that saying it 'has to dump to x levels because it happened past cycle' is definitely assuming based on past performance which you really need to be cautious with, but talking about a new ATH is not about that. preditcting new ATH is mroe about market conditions and that fact that huge money is pouring in making it more probably to pump rather than dump
[2024-02-19 19:28:15] heybit2 : you were wernered
[2024-02-19 19:28:17] jjhiijiji : more probable*
[2024-02-19 19:30:07] doublecheese : I am tempted to open an eth long but funding is something crazy for a long time trader like me
[2024-02-19 19:30:32] thesecretsimplykj : jjhiijiji: yep exactly I see it like that aswell, I may said guaranteed at this point but Bubblemania is right. In a 2D world both is assumption on past performance.
[2024-02-19 19:30:39] RobVacation : and unquenchable thirst for information and knowledge
[2024-02-19 19:30:48] doublecheese : /position xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: 2,500 USD @ 52405 ```
[2024-02-19 19:30:51] doublecheese : Longed the top lol
[2024-02-19 19:31:10] jjhiijiji : thesecretsimplykj: lets say there were no historical charts and u didnt have access to historical data whatsoever or knew the price
[2024-02-19 19:31:11] doublecheese : Had to close and reenter because I thought formula didn't scale
[2024-02-19 19:31:14] jjhiijiji : given todays market conditions
[2024-02-19 19:31:15] thesecretsimplykj : RobVacation: actually the craziest, best advice I ever read here. Put your thinking of being the Top G aside and learn the fuck.
[2024-02-19 19:31:23] jjhiijiji : its probably going up not crashing down
[2024-02-19 19:31:32] jjhiijiji : past performance completely aside
[2024-02-19 19:31:42] RobVacation : thesecretsimplykj: haha
[2024-02-19 19:31:43] jjhiijiji : there are good reasons for more upside, but not too many for a collapse
[2024-02-19 19:31:49] thesecretsimplykj : jjhiijiji: yep exactly :)
[2024-02-19 19:32:52] BTCcheers : https://www.tradingview.com/x/w1aI0ZQo/ btfd btc lezgoo
[2024-02-19 19:33:12] doublecheese : Tempted so tempted to long eth. Gotta keep my greed and FOMO in check. I already have exposure spot to eth
[2024-02-19 19:33:14] thesecretsimplykj : RobVacation: markets are swallowing huge ego's until they are nothing and quit or actually start to learn stuff. btc margin trading is like a magnet for uninformed guys coming here thinking they are john wick in trading. Thats kinda the beatuy of it <3
[2024-02-19 19:33:59] RobVacation : yep min ego dont be a mucho with the market
[2024-02-19 19:34:45] RobVacation : and watch a blind spots
[2024-02-19 19:34:53] jjhiijiji : nothing is guaranteed
[2024-02-19 19:35:02] jjhiijiji : thats where u can usually spot the ones who know a bit and the ones that dont
[2024-02-19 19:35:10] RobVacation : watch out for*
[2024-02-19 19:35:17] jjhiijiji : the ones that have no idea usually the ones that guarantee you sh!t constantly\
[2024-02-19 19:36:21] thesecretsimplykj : jjhiijiji: yep true
[2024-02-19 19:36:35] Nullmaster : A new bullrun has started
[2024-02-19 19:36:43] RobVacation : u know u need learn all the way
[2024-02-19 19:37:07] RobVacation : memory, expierence, imprtant
[2024-02-19 19:37:25] thesecretsimplykj : markets are swallowing huge ego's until they are nothing and start to reason their lack of knowledge with biblical shit, quit or actually start to learn stuff."
[2024-02-19 19:37:30] thesecretsimplykj : thats how it should be
[2024-02-19 19:37:48] thesecretsimplykj : 3-Way outcome haha
[2024-02-19 19:37:48] Bubblemania : Nothing, absolutly nothing is guaranteed. In the year 2020 I saw market panic selling 6k and fomo buying 40k, the same year
[2024-02-19 19:39:21] doublecheese : Bubblemania: I understand fomo buying but no clue why people would panic sell, unless they are on margin. Bitcoin Always come back
[2024-02-19 19:39:54] thesecretsimplykj : doublecheese: even on 100x there is not need to panic if I have risk management and know what Im doing
[2024-02-19 19:39:56] BTCcheers : bullish 5min charts say absolutely gauranteed up btc
[2024-02-19 19:40:02] BTCcheers : https://www.tradingview.com/x/Ow9rDg4Y/
[2024-02-19 19:40:16] thesecretsimplykj : funnily enough - leverage is a way of decreasing risk initially
[2024-02-19 19:40:20] GRILL__THE_BERA71 : BTCcheers: 😆
[2024-02-19 19:40:40] thesecretsimplykj : but not in the hands of someone with no clue - it turns to casino slider
[2024-02-19 19:40:53] doublecheese : thesecretsimplykj: lmao I am 1.35x currently and scared as fuk. However I don't use stop losses and am on cross
[2024-02-19 19:41:18] thesecretsimplykj : doublecheese: probably your whole capital right?
[2024-02-19 19:42:34] migozelaaa : Poor bears
[2024-02-19 19:42:37] migozelaaa : No learn
[2024-02-19 19:42:59] doublecheese : thesecretsimplykj: nope. Half of my capital of margined btc, the other half longed elsewere. Then there's spot alts but no worries about them because no liq price
[2024-02-19 19:43:34] doublecheese : Elsewhere*
[2024-02-19 19:43:41] thesecretsimplykj : I'd rather like do a btc trade on 5X with 20% of my capital adn free the rest 80% of the capital for other trades and have the same risk. this is exactly like the real estate market works where banks give you money aka leverage.
[2024-02-19 19:44:03] BTCcheers : https://www.tradingview.com/x/dfzYlK1r/ 5min horizontals btfd lezgoooo ez monee longz btc
[2024-02-19 19:44:41] thesecretsimplykj : doublecheese: half of oyur margined btc, that means you are roughly 0.68x leverage on your whole "margin trading capital"
[2024-02-19 19:44:42] doublecheese : thesecretsimplykj: which other trades though? When It pumps btc It pumps everything. It's not like you can short something and long something else. So what's the point?
[2024-02-19 19:45:14] Vladimir.Putin : :rocket:
[2024-02-19 19:45:38] doublecheese : thesecretsimplykj: nope. 1.35x here, 2x elsewhere
[2024-02-19 19:45:39] thesecretsimplykj : doublecheese: other trades can be the same asset but like lower or higher :D and suddenly you create a profit cascade, risk free of your managed capital (coutious here you need to really understand that)
[2024-02-19 19:45:50] Vladimir.Putin : low cap coin this week make more money that laverage trade
[2024-02-19 19:46:06] Atlemos : Ripple stays a little stronger atm
[2024-02-19 19:46:41] thesecretsimplykj : doublecheese: and you can actually short btc and long ripple and then long btc future and have 3 trades here
[2024-02-19 19:46:46] thesecretsimplykj : just an examle
[2024-02-19 19:46:50] thesecretsimplykj : p
[2024-02-19 19:47:14] Vladimir.Putin : in Doge :Doge: we trust
[2024-02-19 19:47:59] doublecheese : thesecretsimplykj: I never understood this. If you both long and short you are not guaranteed you Will be able to close both in profit. Also even more unlikely in trending markets
[2024-02-19 19:48:32] thesecretsimplykj : doublecheese: the shlong can be utilized in different ways
[2024-02-19 19:48:46] thesecretsimplykj : lets say funding rate here is positive
[2024-02-19 19:48:51] thesecretsimplykj : 0.0377
[2024-02-19 19:48:56] thesecretsimplykj : I want to milk that
[2024-02-19 19:49:19] BTCcheers : https://www.tradingview.com/x/CFRXMIPz/ 15min bullish btc bottomed longitt
[2024-02-19 19:49:20] thesecretsimplykj : I go same size perps short and futures long.
[2024-02-19 19:49:42] thesecretsimplykj : and I can milk the funding
[2024-02-19 19:49:57] thesecretsimplykj : or some people build a long at like 43K BTC and then shorted here
[2024-02-19 19:50:22] doublecheese : thesecretsimplykj: isn't there a premium and a fee for closing/opening positions? It can't be that Easy lol
[2024-02-19 19:51:18] thesecretsimplykj : doublecheese: Limit Orders even have small fees if you dont stack BMEX here to reduce them
[2024-02-19 19:51:24] thesecretsimplykj : as you "make" the market
[2024-02-19 19:51:38] Vladimir.Putin : focus trade, forget funding ... only care about funding if become to high
[2024-02-19 19:51:39] thesecretsimplykj : market orders have insane fees thats right, one should not do that
[2024-02-19 19:51:53] jjhiijiji : thesecretsimplykj: i did that . started long from 42k, closed big amount of it, added to it massivelyh which raised my entry price but became a risk free big long, and entered a hedged short from 51500
[2024-02-19 19:51:55] doublecheese : thesecretsimplykj: oh that's why I get rekt everytime market opening/closing
[2024-02-19 19:51:59] jjhiijiji : so now im also hedged
[2024-02-19 19:52:07] thesecretsimplykj : doublecheese: yep probably :D
[2024-02-19 19:52:49] jjhiijiji : short hedge is on 1x just collecting funding and maintaining dollar value
[2024-02-19 19:52:50] thesecretsimplykj : you have on like 1 million dollar positions 0.0010 btc fees limit ordering without stacking a single bmex token here ;)
[2024-02-19 19:52:56] doublecheese : jjhiijiji: if it keeps pumping you stop making profits tho
[2024-02-19 19:53:17] thesecretsimplykj : jjhiijiji: exactly, thats actually trading
[2024-02-19 19:53:19] jjhiijiji : doublecheese: no i dont because my long is 44k and risk free and ive already made the profits im happy with since i closed most of my initial pos
[2024-02-19 19:53:23] thesecretsimplykj : not gambling
[2024-02-19 19:53:37] Vladimir.Putin : Doge :rocket: :doge:
[2024-02-19 19:54:30] Vladimir.Putin : AMM give more money rather than future funding
[2024-02-19 19:54:34] jjhiijiji : so now if it goes down, i keep all my profits i closed, if it goess up more thats great but i dont care if it doesnt and if it drops back down ive managed to make profit in both directions. if it goes up i make a little bit less than i would have without the short, but if it goes down i end up having longed a local top and u make money on the way down too @doublecheese
[2024-02-19 19:54:38] Vladimir.Putin : Automated market maker
[2024-02-19 19:55:03] doublecheese : You sirs are clearly good traders. I'll never be able to do that lol
[2024-02-19 19:55:34] doublecheese : I'm just a permabull but at least I stopped overleveraging
[2024-02-19 19:55:46] jjhiijiji : hedgging just minimizes risk for potentially less gains if it keeps going up
[2024-02-19 19:55:54] jjhiijiji : its an added layer to risk management
[2024-02-19 19:56:09] thesecretsimplykj : doublecheese: trading is learning as fuck mate - as @RobVacation very well said. the observation gives you the best tips of all. (be a trader here and invest your time and do stuff) and first and foremost unquenchable thirst for information and knowledge
[2024-02-19 19:56:22] jjhiijiji : also a 1x shorr maintains ur dollar value so ur not really losing anything in that sense
[2024-02-19 19:56:35] jjhiijiji : just gaining dollar value of funding u gained
[2024-02-19 19:56:47] jjhiijiji : 1xshort on xbtusd is basically like being in the dollar plus funding
[2024-02-19 19:57:33] thesecretsimplykj : ^
[2024-02-19 19:57:49] doublecheese : jjhiijiji: 1x long is not though? I am 1.35x long and my collateral appreciates and plus I have xbt returns
[2024-02-19 19:57:55] jjhiijiji : doublecheese: no, its not
[2024-02-19 19:58:11] thesecretsimplykj : thats why you sometimes see people have 3 million dollar shorts and they price is increasing. they simply dont trade and are dollar value - there is no rekt. you need to think big the higher your stack gets
[2024-02-19 19:58:14] jjhiijiji : doublecheese: as in, a 1x long is not lke holding dollar at all
[2024-02-19 19:58:33] jjhiijiji : doublecheese: if price moves against u on 1x long, not only your losing btc, but its value is ALSO dropping
[2024-02-19 19:58:45] Vladimir.Putin : only long on ethusd and only short on xbtusd, that how the formula work better. :doge:
[2024-02-19 19:58:46] jjhiijiji : with a 1x short, u are losing some btc but BTC is worth more
[2024-02-19 19:59:18] jjhiijiji : example : u longed 1 BTC at 10k USD price. if price goes to 20k u lose half ur btc and are left with 0.5 btc
[2024-02-19 19:59:22] jjhiijiji : but 0.5 btc at price of 20k...
[2024-02-19 19:59:25] jjhiijiji : is still 10k usd
[2024-02-19 19:59:46] doublecheese : Vladimir.Putin: here Is the guy Who explained to me Better formula for ethusd @jjhiijiji @thesecretsimplykj
[2024-02-19 20:00:12] jjhiijiji : if u long 1x, and it goes down, ur left with less bitcoin at lower value so doesnt work that way ;/
[2024-02-19 20:00:28] doublecheese : I was talking about this earlier today
[2024-02-19 20:00:35] Vladimir.Putin : doublecheese: its about iiquidation, with 1x, short xbtusd no liquidation, long ethusd no liquidation
[2024-02-19 20:00:38] migozelaaa : No more short
[2024-02-19 20:00:48] migozelaaa : 54k coming
[2024-02-19 20:01:09] Vladimir.Putin : if u long btc even with 1x laverage 50% down = REKT
[2024-02-19 20:01:25] jjhiijiji : yeh u cant liq with 1x short
[2024-02-19 20:01:26] doublecheese : Vladimir.Putin: however if funding erodes your position your liq price gonna increase
[2024-02-19 20:01:39] jjhiijiji : and ur usually gaining funding ... not losing
[2024-02-19 20:01:54] jjhiijiji : shorts get paid every time there is funding unless funding rate is negative, which is very rare
[2024-02-19 20:02:00] jjhiijiji : rare in a bull market at least
[2024-02-19 20:02:15] Vladimir.Putin : doublecheese: yap, but i start to forget about funding, will think about that just if funding to high (not to take trade)
[2024-02-19 20:02:55] doublecheese : Vladimir.Putin: funding on eth was Crazy today (0.09%)
[2024-02-19 20:03:28] doublecheese : jjhiijiji: you can't be liq with short but you May not even be able to close it at break even
[2024-02-19 20:03:48] jjhiijiji : doublecheese: dude you didnt understand that you maintain dollar value i explained it higher up