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[2017-05-01 10:22:35] BitMEX_Arthur : Just so everyone is clear we will not be removing the limits before 2 May 12:00 UTC
[2017-05-01 10:22:43] biz : awe
[2017-05-01 10:22:43] rapidtrades : thanks
[2017-05-01 10:22:53] rapidtrades : what a stupid exchange
[2017-05-01 10:22:54] micmix : asks were put in place bc the limits wer announced, otherwise you wouldn't see any asks otherwise
[2017-05-01 10:23:07] shapeshifter : BitMEX_Arthur: well done, changing contract terms on the way
[2017-05-01 10:23:47] rapidtrades : enjoy dealing with 100s of complaints now...first u advertise GNO now u make it not trabable for humans
[2017-05-01 10:23:48] podizzle3k : shapeshifter: i dont think the contract said when the limits would be removed, simply that they would be removed
[2017-05-01 10:24:12] rapidtrades : luring ppl here again to get slaughtered by the market makers
[2017-05-01 10:24:22] shapeshifter : podizzle3k: no. It says clearly they will be removed once one gno is listed on a secondary exchange
[2017-05-01 10:24:26] shapeshifter : Go and read
[2017-05-01 10:24:33] podizzle3k : ok and that is still true
[2017-05-01 10:24:38] shapeshifter : Mm make money
[2017-05-01 10:24:54] shapeshifter : Prob exchange got a mm bot as well?
[2017-05-01 10:25:18] CBF : why would an exchange make sweets?
[2017-05-01 10:25:40] shapeshifter : Worried about covering liquidations, what the problem here?
[2017-05-01 10:26:13] rapidtrades : this exchange is not tradeable under whigh load, like we saw during multiple events like ETF
[2017-05-01 10:26:37] rapidtrades : this will be a disaster with everyone scrambling to exit/enter during the first few secs of every 2h period
[2017-05-01 10:26:43] rapidtrades : completely not fair decision
[2017-05-01 10:26:55] podizzle3k : as opposed to the books being cleared out
[2017-05-01 10:26:58] podizzle3k : not much better
[2017-05-01 10:27:23] shapeshifter : Then don't say you remove limits on launch
[2017-05-01 10:27:36] shapeshifter : Say before you keep limits for 6 hrs
[2017-05-01 10:27:47] shapeshifter : And people trade based on that
[2017-05-01 10:27:59] shapeshifter : YOU DON'T CHANGE RULES LAST MINUTE
[2017-05-01 10:28:21] shapeshifter : Totally fucked up
[2017-05-01 10:29:29] rapidtrades : well u can count my volume out, not gonna fight with bots to enter exit, im not a muppet
[2017-05-01 10:29:39] podizzle3k : haha
[2017-05-01 10:29:40] rapidtrades : once my trades ADL, im out
[2017-05-01 10:29:54] rapidtrades : have fun with ur stupid fake gno future
[2017-05-01 10:29:55] shapeshifter : They will not, you are limited
[2017-05-01 10:29:59] podizzle3k : shapeshifters bid is at .09 he just needs a bit more fud to fill
[2017-05-01 10:30:04] podizzle3k : so close
[2017-05-01 10:30:33] shapeshifter : Bitmex market maker bot has to make money somehow, right?
[2017-05-01 10:30:50] shapeshifter : podizzle3k: you're funny
[2017-05-01 10:30:59] Apocalyptic : shapeshifter: I don't think anyone is MMing GNO, there is no market to hedge afaik
[2017-05-01 10:31:22] shapeshifter : This request has gone privately by email to Bitmex before I came to the trollbox my friend
[2017-05-01 10:34:23] Farzad2 : /price
[2017-05-01 10:35:45] Farzad2 : /price
[2017-05-01 10:35:47] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1355.84 (0.00%) Bitfinex : 1453.90 (0.00%) OKCоin : 1316.00 (0.00%) itBit : 1350.00 (0.00%) Kraken : 1350.92 (0.00%) GDAX : 1400.12 (0.00%) SLQ : < 1 min```
[2017-05-01 10:36:04] Farzad2 : bot is back boyz :D
[2017-05-01 10:36:21] Farzad2 : /listmods
[2017-05-01 10:36:39] Farzad2 : /mod Farzad
[2017-05-01 10:38:01] Dynamix : fk the bots :)
[2017-05-01 10:38:26] Farzad2 : /joke
[2017-05-01 10:38:27] trollbot : ``` Whenever I get a stack of resumes, I throw half of them in the trash I sure don't want unlucky people on my team. Edit: thanks for the upvotes you guys!!```
[2017-05-01 10:39:05] mark121 : /sentiment
[2017-05-01 10:39:08] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 70.63 / 29.37 Daily : 45.97 / 54.03 Weekly : 47.17 / 52.83 Monthly : 46.36 / 53.64```
[2017-05-01 10:39:32] podizzle3k : we outnumber them 2:1
[2017-05-01 10:39:32] podizzle3k : !
[2017-05-01 10:39:39] podizzle3k : we must fight!
[2017-05-01 10:39:54] Farzad2 : 2K users, impressive
[2017-05-01 10:40:20] Farzad2 : /price
[2017-05-01 10:40:21] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1361.74 (0.00%) Bitfinex : 1452.00 (0.00%) OKCоin : 1316.00 (0.00%) itBit : 1350.00 (0.00%) Kraken : 1350.92 (0.00%) GDAX : 1400.32 (0.00%) SLQ : < 1 min```
[2017-05-01 10:40:40] Farzad2 : some exchnages have problem break 1350
[2017-05-01 10:40:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `FCTM17`: sell 81 @ 0.006280
[2017-05-01 10:42:35] thomaskikansha : we have like 9 sessions from GNO spot trading starts to 12UTC tomorrow
[2017-05-01 10:43:20] thomaskikansha : yet 2 hours is too long for a newly-traded coin
[2017-05-01 10:44:14] mdsmm : guys,
[2017-05-01 10:44:16] mdsmm : hey btw
[2017-05-01 10:44:40] mdsmm : what order do you guys always pick?
[2017-05-01 10:44:44] mdsmm : stop market etc
[2017-05-01 10:44:58] Tetsuo : most people order REKT
[2017-05-01 10:45:23] mdsmm : Tetsuo: haha, smart ass
[2017-05-01 10:45:51] mdsmm : because I don't have a lot of time the coming week :p actually i just want to move up my sell price every day (if it's in profit that is) to ensure my profitqs
[2017-05-01 10:46:22] Farzad2 : /rekt
[2017-05-01 10:46:22] trollbot : ``` No REKT highlights```
[2017-05-01 10:50:28] biz : GNO going to hit limit over and over till it catches up to spot price
[2017-05-01 10:51:02] rapidtrades : they know whats gonna happen
[2017-05-01 10:51:17] rapidtrades : dunno why they keep listing these things, its always a disaster
[2017-05-01 10:51:40] rapidtrades : if u can't commit to a fair and tradeable market then wait for launch, then list
[2017-05-01 10:51:49] rapidtrades : just cheap marketing stunt
[2017-05-01 10:52:07] Farzad2 : /price
[2017-05-01 10:52:11] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1357.07 (-0.34%) Bitfinex : 1453.00 (0.07%) OKCоin : 1317.01 (0.08%) itBit : 1355.00 (0.37%) Kraken : 1351.17 (0.02%) GDAX : 1398.71 (-0.11%) SLQ : 11 mins```
[2017-05-01 10:52:22] rapidtrades : they brought 2k ppl here so job well done i guess
[2017-05-01 10:52:23] Farzad2 : why is GDAX so high ?
[2017-05-01 10:52:51] mdsmm : chinese chat is insane
[2017-05-01 10:52:54] mdsmm : look at them rekts
[2017-05-01 10:54:36] Stilllight : What limit will it keep hitting
[2017-05-01 10:54:49] BitMEX_John : Stilllight: the risk limit
[2017-05-01 10:55:11] BitMEX_John : Stilllight: you can read more about it here https://www.bitmex.com/app/seriesGuide/GNO#Limit-Up--Down
[2017-05-01 10:55:14] Stilllight : will you be removing the limit
[2017-05-01 10:55:22] Stilllight : once gnosis launches on kraken / polo
[2017-05-01 10:55:33] BitMEX_John : Stilllight: once the index changes, at 12:00UTC May 2nd
[2017-05-01 10:55:51] BitMEX_John : Stilllight: details on that are here https://blog.bitmex.com/site_announcement/notice-regarding-gnosis-futures-contracts/
[2017-05-01 10:55:54] Farzad2 : BitMEX_John: Good job on putting the limit, this trash is already overpriced.
[2017-05-01 10:56:19] Farzad2 : will crash like hell soon
[2017-05-01 10:56:28] Farzad2 : just a hype coin
[2017-05-01 10:56:45] Farzad2 : a copy idea of Augur
[2017-05-01 10:57:16] Farzad2 : like how LTC was a copy of BTC and never suceeded
[2017-05-01 10:58:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHM17`: sell 29 @ 0.06124
[2017-05-01 11:00:12] rapidtrades : smone is long here and manipulating gdax to prop up his trade
[2017-05-01 11:00:18] rapidtrades : btce 1303
[2017-05-01 11:00:24] rapidtrades : all others 1350
[2017-05-01 11:00:31] rapidtrades : major scam going on right now
[2017-05-01 11:00:37] rapidtrades : I think we need limits
[2017-05-01 11:01:08] zqooN : lol
[2017-05-01 11:01:45] Stilllight : difficult to say gnosis is a copy of augur
[2017-05-01 11:02:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHM17`: sell 3 @ 0.06082
[2017-05-01 11:02:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHM17`: sell 30 @ 0.06099
[2017-05-01 11:02:04] Stilllight : Consensys is a big player and this is a very hyped ico
[2017-05-01 11:02:59] Farzad2 : /price
[2017-05-01 11:03:02] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1356.54 (-0.04%) Bitfinex : 1454.40 (0.10%) OKCоin : 1318.99 (0.15%) itBit : 1365.00 (0.74%) Kraken : 1355.06 (0.29%) GDAX : 1399.96 (0.09%) SLQ : 10 mins```
[2017-05-01 11:08:25] rapidtrades : he seems pretty desperate, buying $10 above index
[2017-05-01 11:09:07] rapidtrades : big rekts coming soon
[2017-05-01 11:10:55] Yakuza : test
[2017-05-01 11:12:02] zqooN : failed
[2017-05-01 11:14:47] alfaCharlie : rapid what can be the starting ask/bid on kraken ? any ideas
[2017-05-01 11:14:55] alfaCharlie : GNO
[2017-05-01 11:14:57] CBF : http://www.spacex.com/webcast mewn
[2017-05-01 11:15:00] brouk : rapidtrades: what if it is someone closing a hedge short?
[2017-05-01 11:15:43] alfaCharlie : CBF: awesome
[2017-05-01 11:16:04] rapidtrades : http://blog.kraken.com/post/160097978557/kraken-to-open-gnosis-gno-trading
[2017-05-01 11:16:19] rapidtrades : alfaCharlie: i think at least double whatever price we're trading at
[2017-05-01 11:16:32] rapidtrades : if we go by ZEC, it will be many times higher
[2017-05-01 11:17:15] alfaCharlie : k
[2017-05-01 11:17:25] rapidtrades : so kraken too will start trading shortly after tokens are released and we'll have both of them running by 18h UTC
[2017-05-01 11:17:40] rapidtrades : with enough tokens for sale
[2017-05-01 11:19:12] frog : rapidtrades: if price trades outside bitmex limit on exchange gno will basically be untradeable here?
[2017-05-01 11:19:22] rapidtrades : yes pretty much
[2017-05-01 11:19:29] Stilllight : well
[2017-05-01 11:19:34] Stilllight : it will be first come first served
[2017-05-01 11:19:38] rapidtrades : bots will get their shit filled in 1-2 secs every 2h window
[2017-05-01 11:19:46] frog : yeah
[2017-05-01 11:19:52] rapidtrades : rest fight over scraps if any is left
[2017-05-01 11:19:59] rapidtrades : it will be a joke
[2017-05-01 11:20:13] alfaCharlie : CBF: GNO launch will be similar kind of experience ;p great webcast, enjoyed it
[2017-05-01 11:20:15] mdsmm : do you use a bot? @rapidtrades
[2017-05-01 11:20:18] rapidtrades : they could at least disable the API to give everyone a fair shot
[2017-05-01 11:20:22] rapidtrades : mdsmm: no
[2017-05-01 11:21:11] frog : they should widen the limits, they can still have limit but just make wider maybe .15 to 2.5
[2017-05-01 11:21:33] frog : avoid any .01 bs
[2017-05-01 11:23:42] frog : maybe 2.5 a little high
[2017-05-01 11:28:00] Gabriel8 : Bitmex can't change the rules. What said is said, people have invested accordingly. 12:00 UCT May 2nd. If they change it will be many lawsuits from everyone who invested and lost (for whatever reason).
[2017-05-01 11:28:07] alfaCharlie : 5 hours 10 minutes remaining for kraken launch
[2017-05-01 11:31:08] frog : Gabriel8: sucks but true
[2017-05-01 11:31:24] CBF : ooo lawsuit mention already
[2017-05-01 11:32:30] Gabriel8 : No gain for bitmex to change, only possibility to create internal issues.
[2017-05-01 11:32:54] Tetsuo : BitMEX_Scam:!
[2017-05-01 11:36:30] rapidtrades : Gabriel8: shut up idiot, rules just got changed
[2017-05-01 11:36:53] rapidtrades : there are no rules unles u plan to sue anyway which u wont like 90% of crypto ppl
[2017-05-01 11:37:01] rapidtrades : so f*Ck u
[2017-05-01 11:37:56] CBF : 2 rules in crypto 1 admin say is final, 2 we reserverve the right to change rule 1
[2017-05-01 11:38:28] zqooN : 3 get Rekt
[2017-05-01 11:38:53] rapidtrades : before today they said gno will be marked to kraken on the day of launch now RULES CHANGED
[2017-05-01 11:39:02] rapidtrades : so which rule changed first? @Gabriel8
[2017-05-01 11:40:09] rapidtrades : anyway no point in arguing with these ppl, just trade whereever GNO is free to trade like polo or kraken
[2017-05-01 11:40:42] rapidtrades : or fight with bots for 2 secs every 2hrs and see how u do
[2017-05-01 11:41:33] Tetsuo : can i transfer my GNO from here to KRAKEN?
[2017-05-01 11:42:02] frog : they have given the advance notice, but i understand that saying limits will be removed once listed creates the impression that we will not be trading with limits in place after it has been listed.
[2017-05-01 11:42:13] frog : also only specifies listed not actual trading.
[2017-05-01 11:43:21] rapidtrades : well it is what it is
[2017-05-01 11:43:33] rapidtrades : if u want to trade the swings in gno, this is not the place
[2017-05-01 11:43:47] frog : they could have done it better
[2017-05-01 11:43:56] rapidtrades : im depositing to polo, wont be taking new trades here after my inevitable ADL
[2017-05-01 11:44:19] rapidtrades : it will be fastest bot wins, not trading anymore
[2017-05-01 11:44:45] frog : i think a lot of people will be ADL'd
[2017-05-01 11:45:12] zqooN : last time i fingered myself in before the bots, pure luck
[2017-05-01 11:46:09] ross : Xmr dump
[2017-05-01 11:46:25] frog : can you set stops outside the limit?
[2017-05-01 11:46:47] frog : should be as fast as bots
[2017-05-01 11:48:19] zqooN : frog: I'm not sure you can
[2017-05-01 11:48:40] frog : with trigger the order will only placed when trigger hit ie .01 above or below limit then order placed
[2017-05-01 11:48:43] rapidtrades : i would be very careful with trading GNO here from now onward, given the limits and my prvious ZEC experience
[2017-05-01 11:49:12] rapidtrades : they bailed out shorts back then and they could try to do it again so, trade at ur own risk
[2017-05-01 11:49:14] rapidtrades : brb
[2017-05-01 11:52:25] wurstgelee : shorting GNO here and now is wrong.
[2017-05-01 11:52:30] podizzle3k : rapidtrades i think this is where you http://i.imgur.com/zmbrt.gif
[2017-05-01 11:52:34] wurstgelee : thats all
[2017-05-01 11:52:50] wurstgelee : podizzle3k: ha
[2017-05-01 11:53:15] biz : ETC/BTC close to ATH
[2017-05-01 11:53:34] biz : 0.00638 ETC/BTC is the ATH and 0.00536 now
[2017-05-01 11:55:02] podizzle3k : [07:45] zqooN: last time i fingered myself in before the bots, pure luck
[2017-05-01 11:55:03] podizzle3k : gross
[2017-05-01 11:59:20] zqooN : podizzle3k: nothing a wet tissue couldn't handle
[2017-05-01 12:00:43] podizzle3k : yeah ihad no problem etting in before the bots either actually
[2017-05-01 12:01:11] ross : In b4 1400
[2017-05-01 12:05:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMRM17`: sell 11 @ 0.018456
[2017-05-01 12:06:34] aron : does bitmex use bitfinex?
[2017-05-01 12:07:38] podizzle3k : aron: it uses gdax(coinbase) & bitstamp
[2017-05-01 12:08:02] frog : rapidtrades: GL
[2017-05-01 12:08:07] thomaskikansha : 2k user count :o
[2017-05-01 12:08:26] mdsmm : when are they going to lis? in 5h?
[2017-05-01 12:08:38] frog : yeah
[2017-05-01 12:08:58] frog : evryone watching GNO
[2017-05-01 12:10:19] podizzle3k : gonna be good
[2017-05-01 12:10:55] podizzle3k : top two accounts have 50% of bought tokens
[2017-05-01 12:11:01] podizzle3k : and then the devs have the rest
[2017-05-01 12:11:15] kradiav : such a scam lal
[2017-05-01 12:11:41] podizzle3k : so its safe to assume kraken and polo have most the coins
[2017-05-01 12:11:45] podizzle3k : plebs got about 200k
[2017-05-01 12:12:10] podizzle3k : they will be happy tho i imagine if the exchanges decide to play some games
[2017-05-01 12:13:54] podizzle3k : 10x ico seems likely with the manipulation and big name players involved
[2017-05-01 12:15:55] rugu : question is whats the lowes price that GNO will start with
[2017-05-01 12:16:00] rugu : and which lucky guy gers to buy it
[2017-05-01 12:16:23] podizzle3k : rugu: kraken is opening the buy books first before the sell books
[2017-05-01 12:16:31] podizzle3k : so its gonna start super high
[2017-05-01 12:16:34] rugu : aw
[2017-05-01 12:16:35] podizzle3k : like outrageously high
[2017-05-01 12:16:43] rugu : whats bitmex rules about the upper cap?
[2017-05-01 12:16:47] podizzle3k : but im sure it will dump fast back to something reasonable
[2017-05-01 12:16:58] rugu : zcash took 2 weeks to become "reasonable"
[2017-05-01 12:21:50] kradiav : zcash didn't have an ICO, so dynamics are different
[2017-05-01 12:21:53] rapidgains : zcash mining structure created unsustainable expectations
[2017-05-01 12:21:56] Wings : It's getting slammed, zcash had a much lower supply at the beginning
[2017-05-01 12:22:33] rapidgains : besides the devs personal coins, the entire sold supply will be available
[2017-05-01 12:22:35] Wings : There are loads of people who will have the gnosis in their wallets from Kraken
[2017-05-01 12:23:08] rapidgains : i hope it gets capped for the first day
[2017-05-01 12:23:13] rapidgains : make a nice floor
[2017-05-01 12:24:00] Wings : Completely irrational ICO, I won't be trading it here though, far too much opportunity to manipulate
[2017-05-01 12:32:36] sleger : how long before gno lists on polo ?
[2017-05-01 12:32:40] loomdart : hello bitmex
[2017-05-01 12:32:50] BitMEX_John : sleger: they haven't announced an exact time as far as I know
[2017-05-01 12:32:58] BitMEX_John : loomdart: hey loomdart :)
[2017-05-01 12:33:05] loomdart : hey bitmex john
[2017-05-01 12:33:07] sleger : BitMEX_John: thank you
[2017-05-01 12:33:09] loomdart : cheers for answering my query earlier btw
[2017-05-01 12:33:22] rugu : sleger: 4 hrs 30-45min
[2017-05-01 12:33:40] sleger : rugu: they will announce it on twitter ?
[2017-05-01 12:34:12] wurstgelee : kraken will release the tokens @ 17:09:something utc iirc?
[2017-05-01 12:34:34] rugu : sleger: i guess, someone here had posted a link (cant find it) with a countdown
[2017-05-01 12:34:36] wurstgelee : polo will probably be ready by then i assume
[2017-05-01 12:34:39] loomdart : hey bitmex john can I get a cool bitmex logo next to my name
[2017-05-01 12:35:10] wurstgelee : oh look, all the pump indicators showing up
[2017-05-01 12:35:29] BitMEX_John : loomdart: haha maybe one day if you come work for us
[2017-05-01 12:35:31] sleger : rugu: its probably just a countdown to a week post ico
[2017-05-01 12:35:43] frog : gno tokens are being released directly to kraken accounts so should be trading there shortly after release, kraken will have buy side of order book up and running a few hours before
[2017-05-01 12:35:49] loomdart : no one can afford me ;)
[2017-05-01 12:35:54] wurstgelee : sleger: kraken's 17:09 utc is official
[2017-05-01 12:36:14] sleger : thanks
[2017-05-01 12:36:23] wurstgelee : i cba to search the link but it was some kraken url
[2017-05-01 12:37:30] sleger : its in my mailbox "Kraken is pleased to announce that trading for Gnosis (GNO) tokens will launch shortly after GNO tokens are released to ICO auction buyers on Monday May 1, 17:09:49 UTC. "
[2017-05-01 12:37:51] wurstgelee : thanks for confirmation of my blurry memories
[2017-05-01 12:38:10] rugu : so thats like 4hrs 30min from now
[2017-05-01 12:38:17] wurstgelee : yep
[2017-05-01 12:38:36] orly : BitMEX_John: would you consider implementing drag-to-scroll for the coin tab bar?
[2017-05-01 12:38:58] rapidgains : maybe a favorites feature
[2017-05-01 12:38:59] BitMEX_John : orly: that's a really good idea, I will pass it onto the team
[2017-05-01 12:39:16] biz : i want drag and drop to reorder the market tabs ourself
[2017-05-01 12:39:21] podizzle3k : biz: yeah
[2017-05-01 12:39:24] podizzle3k : im down with that
[2017-05-01 12:39:26] rugu : rules for gnosis trading here?
[2017-05-01 12:39:38] loomdart : rugu: only market sell
[2017-05-01 12:39:38] BitMEX_John : biz: okay, I will pass that on too
[2017-05-01 12:39:40] biz : rugu: check the announcements
[2017-05-01 12:39:44] podizzle3k : or just multi rows of tabs
[2017-05-01 12:39:50] podizzle3k : lets do all the features!
[2017-05-01 12:40:01] BitMEX_John : The tab bar has grown recently, we probably should make it work a bit better
[2017-05-01 12:40:09] BitMEX_John : So I'll pass on your ideas
[2017-05-01 12:40:13] podizzle3k : the little arrows are rough sometimes they disappear on my machine
[2017-05-01 12:42:20] biz : podizzle3k: same. then i gotta resize my browser to get the arrows to come back
[2017-05-01 12:42:24] loomdart : I want a keyboard shortcut
[2017-05-01 12:42:30] loomdart : that market buys more gno
[2017-05-01 12:43:34] rapidgains : You may need an 'all in market order' option for convenience
[2017-05-01 12:44:24] rugu : ^^
[2017-05-01 12:44:25] Farzad : BitMEX_John: hey john, there is someone spamming the system by hundreds of 1 orders
[2017-05-01 12:44:39] podizzle3k : thats what groupin gis for
[2017-05-01 12:44:42] Farzad : 1 contract orders *
[2017-05-01 12:44:47] BitMEX_John : Farzad: which contract?
[2017-05-01 12:45:04] Farzad : XBTUSD
[2017-05-01 12:45:20] Farzad : sometimes when u look at recent trades
[2017-05-01 12:45:24] abbey : REKT get ready
[2017-05-01 12:45:29] Farzad : there are hundreds of 1 contract orders
[2017-05-01 12:45:45] BitMEX_John : Farzad: I see, that's okay, as long as they do not hit their rate limits
[2017-05-01 12:46:13] BitMEX_John : Farzad: our system will automatically block them if they are spamming
[2017-05-01 12:46:18] Farzad : BitMEX_John: why not put a higher minimum limit ?
[2017-05-01 12:46:21] thomaskikansha : predicted funding at cap
[2017-05-01 12:46:34] BitMEX_John : Farzad: a higher minimum limit?
[2017-05-01 12:46:35] rugu : 1%
[2017-05-01 12:46:43] Farzad : yes, on contract size
[2017-05-01 12:46:54] Farzad : for example minimum 10 contracts
[2017-05-01 12:47:05] BitMEX_John : Farzad: why would we do that?
[2017-05-01 12:47:27] rugu : a lot of people won;t be able to afford the coin
[2017-05-01 12:47:49] Farzad : BitMEX_John: the same reason you consider less than 10 contracts spam while sending order limits ?
[2017-05-01 12:47:58] stf28 : why does it bother you?
[2017-05-01 12:48:22] thomaskikansha : swap premium jumped lately?
[2017-05-01 12:48:32] Farzad : stf28: because it fills the recent trades
[2017-05-01 12:48:50] rugu : a lot of these can also be mm bots
[2017-05-01 12:48:59] stf28 : you still have chart to see price variation
[2017-05-01 12:49:25] stf28 : you were talking about orders not trades btw
[2017-05-01 12:49:30] sleger : BitMEX_John: the jump in users is due to GNO or something else ?
[2017-05-01 12:49:32] Farzad : rugu: it is a badly written bot or someone spamming
[2017-05-01 12:49:50] rugu : nonetheless, why stop them from trading?
[2017-05-01 12:49:57] Farzad : he send 100, 1 contract orders, instead of one 100 contract order
[2017-05-01 12:50:01] BitMEX_John : sleger: not sure why personally, I would guess gno hype
[2017-05-01 12:50:16] biz : sleger: GNO open # of contracts have not gone up much
[2017-05-01 12:50:28] thomaskikansha : sleger: it was like 1K some days before?
[2017-05-01 12:50:40] sleger : biz: yes but could be lurking users waiting for go live, we had the same with ZEC
[2017-05-01 12:50:47] thomaskikansha : I remember eth during etf decision we again had 2K
[2017-05-01 12:50:48] sleger : thomaskikansha: yes
[2017-05-01 12:50:58] thomaskikansha : btc*
[2017-05-01 12:51:05] rapidtrades : ofc its gno hype
[2017-05-01 12:51:05] biz : sucks the rate limit is going to be hit over and over if demand is huge
[2017-05-01 12:51:23] rapidtrades : it will be impossible to trade with 2k AND limits
[2017-05-01 12:51:50] rugu : announcement says, limits will be removed
[2017-05-01 12:51:57] rapidtrades : is polo trading engine more stable then kraken?
[2017-05-01 12:51:57] biz : in 23 hours
[2017-05-01 12:52:04] Farzad : BitMEX_John: so is it OK if I spam your order book with 100, 1 contract trades ?
[2017-05-01 12:52:10] thomaskikansha : will be on tomorrow @rugu
[2017-05-01 12:52:12] stf28 : Farzad: if he sends 100 orders he will hit api rate limit fast
[2017-05-01 12:53:03] BitMEX_John : Farzad: if it is within the rate limits it is okay to my understanding https://www.bitmex.com/app/restAPI#Rate-Limits
[2017-05-01 12:53:43] podizzle3k : some people opening up gno shorts today
[2017-05-01 12:53:53] rugu : they going to get rekt
[2017-05-01 12:53:55] rugu : tomorrow
[2017-05-01 12:54:02] podizzle3k : they will make for good sacrificial lambs
[2017-05-01 12:54:12] podizzle3k : tomorrow? the pump should start right after the initial dump
[2017-05-01 12:54:15] rugu : some guy shorted at 5btc
[2017-05-01 12:54:17] rapidtrades : so gno first on kraken then polo? or what
[2017-05-01 12:54:17] thomaskikansha : podizzle3k: can be someone who bought the ico
[2017-05-01 12:54:44] podizzle3k : rapidtrades: appears that way but polo could open quickly therafter
[2017-05-01 12:54:52] podizzle3k : kraken is opening at the exact time the coins are released frmo ico
[2017-05-01 12:55:03] rapidtrades : well guess i gotta move money there too
[2017-05-01 12:55:15] rugu : rapidtrades: market buy?
[2017-05-01 12:55:16] Farzad : stf28: he can spam 300 orders every 5 minutes. to only open a 300 contract size.
[2017-05-01 12:55:18] podizzle3k : dont bother you need to be tier 1 to trade
[2017-05-01 12:55:23] podizzle3k : unless youre already verified
[2017-05-01 12:55:25] podizzle3k : it takes 48 hours
[2017-05-01 12:55:30] Farzad : making recent trades box unusable
[2017-05-01 12:55:40] rapidtrades : am tier 1
[2017-05-01 12:55:52] podizzle3k : rapidtrades: yeah its possible u can scoop up some cheap ones
[2017-05-01 12:56:00] rugu : wait
[2017-05-01 12:56:08] rugu : why do you need to be tier 1 to trade?
[2017-05-01 12:56:15] rapidtrades : on polo im tier 0 lol guess it doesnt matter?
[2017-05-01 12:56:23] podizzle3k : rugu: new rules at kraken
[2017-05-01 12:56:30] podizzle3k : probably trying to avoid their banks bailing on them
[2017-05-01 12:56:40] Farzad : funding rate at max limit for next funding session :D
[2017-05-01 12:56:41] stf28 : Farzad: bots aren't all big players like you, and if you're so big why bother about this?
[2017-05-01 12:57:00] stf28 : aren't you the guy who makes the trollbox spam bot?
[2017-05-01 12:57:22] rapidtrades : GNO API needs to be cut off until 2h limits are removed
[2017-05-01 12:57:35] sleger : there is only <1/8 of data points for next session, calm down about talking max funding yet
[2017-05-01 12:57:37] rapidtrades : ur just sacrificing users to bots if u dont do this
[2017-05-01 12:57:39] Farzad : stf28: I am not that big, but I dont like spammers.
[2017-05-01 12:57:42] thomaskikansha : Farzad: $8 premium on swap
[2017-05-01 12:57:53] Farzad : thomaskikansha: yeah
[2017-05-01 12:58:06] rugu : rapidtrades: the 2 hr limit is still there? So caps will keep increasing but slowly right?
[2017-05-01 12:58:17] thomaskikansha : someone's optimistic on btc
[2017-05-01 12:58:39] Farzad : thomaskikansha: too optimistic :D
[2017-05-01 12:58:44] sleger : 100$ between btce and coinbase
[2017-05-01 12:58:47] stf28 : these are hft techniques... not spam, if you look at trades at major exchanges including forex these small orders try to give signals to trigger orders
[2017-05-01 12:58:49] Farzad : /mod Farzad2
[2017-05-01 12:58:50] trollbot : ``` Farzad2 has been moded```
[2017-05-01 12:58:58] stf28 : lol
[2017-05-01 12:59:05] thomaskikansha : Farzad: havent seen .375% for a while
[2017-05-01 12:59:20] Farzad : thomaskikansha: yes, it has been a while
[2017-05-01 12:59:30] sleger : there is no small order in major forex exchange, the min size is 1m
[2017-05-01 12:59:37] stf28 : i like seeing small orders, it gives some life to the exchange during flat sessions
[2017-05-01 13:00:02] Farzad : stf28: what is hft ?
[2017-05-01 13:00:05] hitme1 : an order is an order. love how people talk about "spam & fake" small positions
[2017-05-01 13:00:12] thomaskikansha : high frequency trading
[2017-05-01 13:00:12] stf28 : and it challenges badly written bots who uses orderQty / leavesQty the wrong way
[2017-05-01 13:01:17] Farzad : BitMex already considers limit orders less than 10 contracts spam
[2017-05-01 13:01:21] thomaskikansha : wonder when will Kraken opens for inputting bids for gno
[2017-05-01 13:01:42] Aegis : ZEC is going to 0.085
[2017-05-01 13:02:42] rapidtrades : /price
[2017-05-01 13:02:44] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1361.50 (0.37%) Bitfinex : 1462.00 (0.52%) OKCоin : 1316.04 (-0.22%) itBit : 1386.53 (1.58%) Kraken : 1361.50 (0.48%) GDAX : 1407.50 (0.54%) SLQ : 1 hour, 59 mins```
[2017-05-01 13:03:03] Farzad : why is GDAX so high ? anyone knows ?
[2017-05-01 13:03:08] Hektor : how many times to wiithdrawal ?
[2017-05-01 13:03:25] sleger : almost 24 hours
[2017-05-01 13:03:27] biz : 1 a day
[2017-05-01 13:03:40] Hektor : so slow
[2017-05-01 13:04:09] Farzad : GDAX getting close to bitfinex ! lol
[2017-05-01 13:04:18] BitMEX_John : Hektor: did you have a withdrawal included in the last batch?
[2017-05-01 13:05:43] Hektor : We send all withdrawals by hand from offline multisig wallets; the next batch will go out at 13:00 UTC (12 minutes). @BitMEX_John
[2017-05-01 13:05:45] needmoneyquick : how does does a withdrawl take if you submitted it on time today?
[2017-05-01 13:06:03] abbey : feels like btc will leave this station behind very soon
[2017-05-01 13:06:29] BitMEX_John : needmoneyquick: they are currently being processed @Hektor
[2017-05-01 13:07:20] biz : why is the withdraw miner fee 0.003
[2017-05-01 13:07:24] biz : that is $4
[2017-05-01 13:07:55] BitMEX_John : biz: because we use multi-sig wallets the transaction size is larger than an average transaction
[2017-05-01 13:07:58] Hektor : ah ok @BitMEX_John I've been waiting more than an hour
[2017-05-01 13:08:07] emcor : kraken down https://www.kraken.com
[2017-05-01 13:08:20] BitMEX_John : biz: the fee per byte rate is reasonable, we are working to get it lower though
[2017-05-01 13:08:25] biz : BitMEX_John: ah okay. only 3,000 unconfirmed transactions though
[2017-05-01 13:08:33] biz : should be included pretty quick
[2017-05-01 13:08:35] biz : in a block
[2017-05-01 13:08:40] sleger : ETH is now 1/3 of BTC
[2017-05-01 13:08:54] BitMEX_John : Hektor: I see, the cutoff was 8 minutes ago we are processing now
[2017-05-01 13:09:05] Wings : Knocking at that number 1 spot
[2017-05-01 13:09:29] sleger : looks like withdrawal fee is a bit high for the network these days, 4$ fee !
[2017-05-01 13:09:48] Hektor : BitMEX_John ok ok thanks
[2017-05-01 13:10:06] sleger : Wings: then prove it and show your name
[2017-05-01 13:10:10] biz : emcor: must be down to add GNO
[2017-05-01 13:10:44] frog : biz: lol
[2017-05-01 13:11:51] frog : getting cloudflare host error
[2017-05-01 13:12:23] Ahhere : Why does nobody show their name on leaderboard
[2017-05-01 13:12:33] rapidtrades : @bitmex why don't u look into how ppl are using ur 100/1 leverage to manipulate global bitcoin prices?
[2017-05-01 13:13:11] rapidgains : lol
[2017-05-01 13:13:16] sleger : @bitmex why dont you do his laundry too ?
[2017-05-01 13:13:34] men : shorting ETC
[2017-05-01 13:13:37] men : anyone?
[2017-05-01 13:14:11] podizzle3k : has anyone ever seen a coin that is getting listed on polo, trex, and kraken all in the same day
[2017-05-01 13:14:13] podizzle3k : this gonna be bonkers
[2017-05-01 13:14:34] podizzle3k : within the limits of bonkers i should say ;)
[2017-05-01 13:14:39] men : GNO will go to 1 btc xD
[2017-05-01 13:15:18] men : for sure
[2017-05-01 13:15:26] rapidgains : etc looks to have the best spread of any altcoin here
[2017-05-01 13:15:27] men : polo and kraken hold 45 % of all the token
[2017-05-01 13:15:38] rapidgains : oh nice eth improved too
[2017-05-01 13:15:43] rapidtrades : who cares how high it goes if u can't trade it
[2017-05-01 13:15:56] sleger : wow withdrawal size 2203 (bytes)
[2017-05-01 13:15:59] rapidtrades : and trust me, u wont be able to with these limits
[2017-05-01 13:16:24] Hektor : i'm in about 24 hours ......
[2017-05-01 13:16:34] rapidtrades : kraken will open redic high, all shorts here will get margin called, longs ADLEd
[2017-05-01 13:16:41] men : rapidtrades: 17 pm utc u can trade on polo and kraken
[2017-05-01 13:16:44] rapidtrades : then bots will buy and ride their profis into the sunset
[2017-05-01 13:16:48] rapidtrades : the scam is complete
[2017-05-01 13:17:29] rugu : rapidtrades: why will longs get ADLed
[2017-05-01 13:17:34] men : rapidtrades: is there a price limit for GNO here on bitmex?
[2017-05-01 13:18:40] men : look REP
[2017-05-01 13:18:43] BitMEX_John : men: we have risk limits applied at the moment https://www.bitmex.com/app/seriesGuide/GNO#Limit-Up--Down
[2017-05-01 13:19:05] BitMEX_John : men: they will be removed at 12:00 UTC May 2nd when the index changes to Poloniex
[2017-05-01 13:20:04] thomaskikansha : rugu: if profited longs dont take the liquidations they may be ADLed
[2017-05-01 13:20:10] baxterman : so if the price goes crazy today, we will all get auto leveraged out of our positions super early?
[2017-05-01 13:20:25] rapidtrades : *when and yes u will
[2017-05-01 13:20:52] rugu : thomaskikansha: wait im confused, I can get liquidated if I don't cash in my profit?
[2017-05-01 13:21:06] rapidtrades : its free money but if u trade here u will miss 90% of the action cos of the limits
[2017-05-01 13:21:13] baxterman : why wait a full day before removing the limits? I thought they get removed once other exchanges officially list?
[2017-05-01 13:21:31] rapidtrades : why? cos that's the bitmex way
[2017-05-01 13:21:33] podizzle3k : baxterman i think its to determine which exchange to use as a index
[2017-05-01 13:21:38] men : BitMEX_John: thanks very much john :D
[2017-05-01 13:21:41] podizzle3k : its possible kraken would be illiquid
[2017-05-01 13:21:44] rapidtrades : they prolly do this launches for promo reasons
[2017-05-01 13:21:46] brouk : rugu: not liquidated but forced to take some profit
[2017-05-01 13:21:56] rapidtrades : to get new ppl in here
[2017-05-01 13:22:05] BitMEX_John : rugu: you can read about how ADL works here https://www.bitmex.com/app/autoDeleveraging
[2017-05-01 13:22:18] rapidtrades : obviously the goal here isn't to offer a tradeable market in gno
[2017-05-01 13:22:40] podizzle3k : rugu basically what happens is you are cashed out automatically. you get the best possible price though
[2017-05-01 13:22:50] podizzle3k : read about it for the more technical explanation
[2017-05-01 13:23:22] Wings : sleger: I was talking about ETH Vs BTC
[2017-05-01 13:27:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: sell 70 @ 0.005452
[2017-05-01 13:27:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: sell 500 @ 0.005451
[2017-05-01 13:27:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: sell 4460 @ 0.005438
[2017-05-01 13:27:53] rapidtrades : al of this ETH buying is on leverage
[2017-05-01 13:28:00] rapidtrades : that's why BTC is rising too
[2017-05-01 13:28:21] rapidtrades : first they buy BTC then use that to leverage 3/1 or more in ETH/BTC
[2017-05-01 13:28:33] thomaskikansha : finex is ready
[2017-05-01 13:28:38] sleger : you can use eth to leverage eth long dummy
[2017-05-01 13:28:41] rapidgains : be nice if the GNO polo index was used sooner, but have the weight scaled in for the first 24 hours or so
[2017-05-01 13:29:16] rapidtrades : its pointless, once bitmex makes a decision, its done
[2017-05-01 13:29:22] rapidtrades : no matter how stupid
[2017-05-01 13:29:41] podizzle3k : rapidtirades anyone ever call you that
[2017-05-01 13:29:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: sell 58 @ 0.005310
[2017-05-01 13:30:03] blaat : whut, someone over leveraged?
[2017-05-01 13:30:05] rapidtrades : make alternative arrangements is all u can do now, move some money to polo/krkane etc
[2017-05-01 13:30:29] podizzle3k : rapidtirades haha im pretty happy about that if i came up with it
[2017-05-01 13:32:49] blaat : eth starting to continue it's magic :)
[2017-05-01 13:33:32] rapidtrades : @sleger ok then ppl using BTC to buy ETH
[2017-05-01 13:33:42] rapidtrades : in any case, it will crash soon
[2017-05-01 13:33:45] rapidtrades : both of them
[2017-05-01 13:34:16] atlanta : Of course a correction will take place for ETH, question is when.
[2017-05-01 13:34:19] rapidtrades : buy BTC with fiat > buy ETH with BTC > fomo > lose all ur monies
[2017-05-01 13:34:50] wurstgelee : i didnt follow through, whats the tldr list of the top 3 stupid things rapidtrades said today?
[2017-05-01 13:34:54] sleger : atlanta: probably from 150 back to 100$
[2017-05-01 13:35:06] rapidtrades : yeah right
[2017-05-01 13:35:14] rapidtrades : newsflash, cryptos don't correct 33%
[2017-05-01 13:35:17] sleger : wurstgelee: sorry we only do top 40 here in the UK
[2017-05-01 13:35:21] rapidtrades : they correct 80-90% of ur lucky
[2017-05-01 13:35:28] rapidtrades : that's only for the top dogs like BTC
[2017-05-01 13:35:39] rapidtrades : LTC lost over 95% and most alts
[2017-05-01 13:35:56] rapidtrades : ppl here have a short memory
[2017-05-01 13:36:08] wurstgelee : sleger: lol
[2017-05-01 13:36:09] rugu : zcash corrected 10,0000%
[2017-05-01 13:36:10] sleger : no coin was being adopted like eth though
[2017-05-01 13:36:45] rapidtrades : this time is different, got it
[2017-05-01 13:36:51] hmmmYea : omg gnosis isnt a coin that could be worth $4T if everyone starts using it.
[2017-05-01 13:37:07] wurstgelee : rapidtrades: http://coinmarketcap.com/charts/
[2017-05-01 13:37:08] hmmmYea : its a simple business that pays a relatively simple dividend
[2017-05-01 13:37:10] wurstgelee : top chart
[2017-05-01 13:37:13] wurstgelee : times change
[2017-05-01 13:37:25] sleger : hmmmYea: right now its words on a paper
[2017-05-01 13:37:26] rapidtrades : hmmmYea: they made a big mistake calling it token not coin
[2017-05-01 13:37:38] atlanta : ETH about to take off again
[2017-05-01 13:37:43] sleger : another one that runs on eth network ....
[2017-05-01 13:37:44] hmmmYea : sleger: yes. a pre-alpha business
[2017-05-01 13:38:05] rapidtrades : gnosis coin, used to power an innovative new prediction market
[2017-05-01 13:38:07] sleger : shark tank to GNO : I will offer you 10k for 95% of your business because i feel bad for you
[2017-05-01 13:38:14] hmmmYea : but its not like humans dont have the capacity to evaluate what its worth like in the case of a coin that is money-like
[2017-05-01 13:38:14] rapidtrades : see how much better it sounds
[2017-05-01 13:38:42] rapidtrades : sleger: god i hope u short and don't chicken out
[2017-05-01 13:38:49] rapidtrades : u will be blown away
[2017-05-01 13:39:00] rapidtrades : litecoined if u will
[2017-05-01 13:39:04] hmmmYea : rapidtrades: so much talk... i dont even think you bought any futures
[2017-05-01 13:39:20] CBF : wots wiv all this gno spam
[2017-05-01 13:39:21] sleger : he probably bought 2 or 3
[2017-05-01 13:39:22] hmmmYea : i think you just bot on the token sale and are pumping it so you can flip out in 5 hours
[2017-05-01 13:39:28] CBF : im gonna open a ticket
[2017-05-01 13:39:40] rapidtrades : hmmmYea: think what u want
[2017-05-01 13:39:42] sleger : i dont think he got into the ico, it did require to own eth and some wallet knowledge
[2017-05-01 13:39:45] rapidtrades : like i give a shit
[2017-05-01 13:39:47] hmmmYea : rapidtrades: i always do
[2017-05-01 13:39:56] hmmmYea : sleger: lol
[2017-05-01 13:40:35] hmmmYea : sleger: i was on the offer when he was pumping the crap out of it the other day... i didnt sell a single future
[2017-05-01 13:40:55] sleger : oh im sure he bought 2 or 3 and now is just pumping
[2017-05-01 13:41:07] rapidtrades : are u talking about me pumping?
[2017-05-01 13:41:14] sleger : i wouldnt stay short now though, or at least with very limited margin
[2017-05-01 13:41:19] atlanta : Gnosis is the scam of the year. I mean the dutch auction style is just crazy
[2017-05-01 13:41:23] rapidtrades : are u two retra.ded? show me one line wherer i was serious that GNO is a god investment
[2017-05-01 13:41:24] sleger : yes you only talk here to pump your book
[2017-05-01 13:41:29] rapidtrades : ONE F LINE
[2017-05-01 13:41:36] sleger : read the archive