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[2024-02-09 15:40:26] CarlosM : can only try terrorist attack at kraken homebase or something
[2024-02-09 15:40:28] wassa_wassa_bitconee : then work hard to earn money.
[2024-02-09 15:40:52] jjhiijiji : ahah carlos thats legit advice there from the trollbox councellor,. just get a job bro
[2024-02-09 15:40:52] CarlosM : wassa_wassa_bitconee: it only takes 20 years of slaving to recover the loss, ur right
[2024-02-09 15:41:04] jjhiijiji : just wagecuck it
[2024-02-09 15:41:09] jjhiijiji : all the way to pensionhood
[2024-02-09 15:41:14] DumpSpecialist : 30k is so close now
[2024-02-09 15:41:32] CarlosM : jjhiijiji: that will be good to cover living expense, no way to save up a btc
[2024-02-09 15:41:36] laPanini : 52k is easier :rocket:
[2024-02-09 15:41:50] laPanini : so many bears :rocket:
[2024-02-09 15:42:02] laPanini : like clockwork it bounces, again and again :rocket:
[2024-02-09 15:42:03] jjhiijiji : CarlosM: yeah definitely i was being sarcastic. you either do another bitconnee scam or just become an alcoholic or go with noose idea
[2024-02-09 15:42:16] jjhiijiji : quite a few choices really
[2024-02-09 15:42:25] wassa_wassa_bitconee : CarlosM: chill bro. we are all gamblers in here. we get rekt but we rise up to get rekt again. LoL.
[2024-02-09 15:42:31] CarlosM : jjhiijiji: becomming alcoholic highest odds
[2024-02-09 15:42:56] CarlosM : wassa_wassa_bitconee: get rekt i can live with... getting ripped off without sane explanation not really
[2024-02-09 15:43:06] CarlosM : KRAKEN NOT WORTH TO BE CALLED AN EXCHANGE
[2024-02-09 15:43:40] CarlosM : go seek elsewhere if you still using them, they old and have no security standards, just grinding fees for doing nothing really
[2024-02-09 15:44:15] goldtaras : CarlosM: chill bro, im like 15 time recover from 10 usd to 1000 or more, and i allready learning trading, sonu can do it too for sure
[2024-02-09 15:44:24] jjhiijiji : carlos CHILL BRO DONT DO IT
[2024-02-09 15:44:41] jjhiijiji : too late hes done it
[2024-02-09 15:44:54] jjhiijiji : nice pep talk wassaa u really drove him off the edge
[2024-02-09 15:44:58] CarlosM : goldtaras: 1K nothing sir
[2024-02-09 15:45:04] migozelaaa : laPanini: 53k
[2024-02-09 15:45:09] migozelaaa : then 57k > 60k
[2024-02-09 15:45:18] goldtaras : Scale from 1k to 100k the same road
[2024-02-09 15:45:21] migozelaaa : next week
[2024-02-09 15:45:26] laPanini : migozelaaa: I have my chart sir.
[2024-02-09 15:45:30] migozelaaa : 100k in two month
[2024-02-09 15:46:04] CarlosM : goldtaras: i don't even have 1K anymore :(
[2024-02-09 15:47:06] al guul : fair price 70k :btc:
[2024-02-09 15:47:30] Vladimir.Putin : i think minor trend down still continue until us trader off ,,,, 6-10 hours
[2024-02-09 15:47:34] jjhiijiji : you could always go raw power moves find smeone with a usb ledger - stick and move
[2024-02-09 15:47:47] jjhiijiji : before you go to the bottle or noose
[2024-02-09 15:47:49] jjhiijiji : nothing to lose
[2024-02-09 15:47:52] jjhiijiji : true freedom
[2024-02-09 15:49:16] migozelaaa : long hereee again
[2024-02-09 15:51:05] jjhiijiji : raw power moves, casket and flower moves
[2024-02-09 15:51:33] Bitfrebbe : migozelaaa: you long here, I long 45k and also get roasted
[2024-02-09 15:56:48] migozelaaa : Bitfrebbe: good luck bro
[2024-02-09 15:58:38] jjhiijiji : i think correction hasnt ended but ive thought that every time so far and it just keeps pampin
[2024-02-09 16:04:06] FishyGuy : jjhiijiji: yooo, sorry, had a phone call when you wrote back. Drink, smoke and a chat with someone with half a clue about crypto irl? bruh where do I sign up lol
[2024-02-09 16:05:31] jjhiijiji : FishyGuy: no worries guy ;D
[2024-02-09 16:05:43] Werner : wernings
[2024-02-09 16:06:15] jjhiijiji : wern em werner, wern em!
[2024-02-09 16:07:45] al guul : they were issued multiple times
[2024-02-09 16:08:10] FishyGuy : A girl at work asked "So what is Bitcoin anyway?" and I was like lel, then another dude whose Facebook is all cryptobro charts etc etc... his answer was like basically it's a virtual money which is totally untraceable. Normies have no clue. The people with at least a bit of a clue don't even know wtf they're on about. I literally work to interact with people a bit instead of being a hermit all my life but sheesh, the convo can be dull af
[2024-02-09 16:08:17] wassa_wassa_bitconee : /position xbtusd I am about to short 47.3k ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: 5,000 USD @ 47026.9559 ```
[2024-02-09 16:09:33] laPanini : yes shorting more is good.
[2024-02-09 16:09:37] Hexagon : FishyGuy: totally untraceable 🤣
[2024-02-09 16:09:44] migozelaaa : wassa_wassa_bitconee: rekt
[2024-02-09 16:09:52] jjhiijiji : its the untraceable KYC mechanism that does that
[2024-02-09 16:09:56] migozelaaa : silly bears
[2024-02-09 16:09:57] wassa_wassa_bitconee : migozelaaa: rekt
[2024-02-09 16:10:13] FishyGuy : Hexagon: ikr?! and this a guy with trades and lines all over his charts, only thing on his facebook lol
[2024-02-09 16:10:18] jjhiijiji : once you sign up wo KYC ur off the grid
[2024-02-09 16:10:31] migozelaaa : 60k next week
[2024-02-09 16:11:04] jjhiijiji : no more correction just more pamp
[2024-02-09 16:11:05] jjhiijiji : seriously
[2024-02-09 16:11:18] FishyGuy : I didn't bother stepping in to correct him because fuk em', we all had the same chance as each other to learn about crypto
[2024-02-09 16:11:39] jjhiijiji : honestly i rarely even attempt to engage in a conversation about trading or crypto with people
[2024-02-09 16:11:41] migozelaaa : stupids bears no learn
[2024-02-09 16:11:44] jjhiijiji : outside trollbox
[2024-02-09 16:11:58] FishyGuy : Yeah jjhiijiji, it's literally not worth the hassle.
[2024-02-09 16:12:03] Bitfrebbe : 42k
[2024-02-09 16:12:12] migozelaaa : Bitfrebbe: yes sir 52k
[2024-02-09 16:12:16] wassa_wassa_bitconee : /position xbtusd my short is in. ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: -5,000 USD @ 47471.5 ```
[2024-02-09 16:12:17] Bitfrebbe : Fake pump
[2024-02-09 16:12:21] Bitfrebbe : migozelaaa: trapped
[2024-02-09 16:12:28] laPanini : fake pump with fake profits :rocket:
[2024-02-09 16:12:28] al guul : where is comae
[2024-02-09 16:12:52] FishyGuy : One guy was there for a month, doxxed himself all over. I know he has 30k ish in crypto (thinks he's loaded). Know where he lives. I have lots of wrenches.... <.<
[2024-02-09 16:13:04] FishyGuy : al guul: in the history books
[2024-02-09 16:14:24] migozelaaa : laPanini: lol
[2024-02-09 16:14:33] al guul : FishyGuy: the true degens always come back
[2024-02-09 16:15:22] migozelaaa : wassa_wassa_bitconee: haha brother, how can you try to short this on each red candle? you just lose money over and over again.
[2024-02-09 16:15:34] migozelaaa : Bitfrebbe: nooob
[2024-02-09 16:16:13] FishyGuy : al guul: I swear it's been like a year and a half or so
[2024-02-09 16:16:14] wassa_wassa_bitconee : migozelaaa: I am stupid pleb sir
[2024-02-09 16:16:24] FishyGuy : I guess there's no /seen command or sth like that
[2024-02-09 16:16:27] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated short on `SUIUSDT`: Buy 7000 SUI @ 1.703 ($11,925.20) - 🚀 🚀 🚀
[2024-02-09 16:16:31] jjhiijiji : were all stupid plebs on the inside
[2024-02-09 16:16:53] FishyGuy : Even more of us are on the outside too :P
[2024-02-09 16:16:53] jjhiijiji : even ronnie
[2024-02-09 16:16:54] migozelaaa : wassa_wassa_bitconee: i see
[2024-02-09 16:17:00] wassa_wassa_bitconee : /position xbtusd I have waited 2 hours for this short. Now finally, I am in. ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: -5,000 USD @ 47471.5 ```
[2024-02-09 16:17:02] migozelaaa : hongxia0: Corto $-680000 $40043.4071 -18.4952% ฿-2.6505
[2024-02-09 16:17:04] migozelaaa : ouch
[2024-02-09 16:17:31] wassa_wassa_bitconee : **1**
[2024-02-09 16:17:53] Bitfrebbe : migozelaaa: how can you not spot a top noob
[2024-02-09 16:18:11] wassa_wassa_bitconee : **1.** Press 1 if you are bulla **2.** Press 2 if you are bera **3.** Press 3 if you are stupid.
[2024-02-09 16:18:15] wassa_wassa_bitconee : 3
[2024-02-09 16:18:26] Bitfrebbe : If we go above 48k im noob, if we go below 46k you noob @migozelaaa
[2024-02-09 16:18:27] jjhiijiji : someone is gonna press 4 for sure
[2024-02-09 16:18:29] wassa_wassa_bitconee : 3
[2024-02-09 16:18:45] migozelaaa : wassa_wassa_bitconee: LOL
[2024-02-09 16:19:12] wassa_wassa_bitconee : Looks like we will dump at least 1000 dollars from here. Otherwise I have stop in place.
[2024-02-09 16:19:27] migozelaaa : Bitfrebbe: ok i liked
[2024-02-09 16:21:13] Bitfrebbe : migozelaaa: 😘
[2024-02-09 16:23:06] wassa_wassa_bitconee : /position xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: -5,000 USD @ 47471.5 ```
[2024-02-09 16:23:16] wassa_wassa_bitconee : 1000 dollars move all I want.
[2024-02-09 16:23:25] wassa_wassa_bitconee : Very calculated trade.
[2024-02-09 16:24:16] wassa_wassa_bitconee : https://www.tradingview.com/x/h82bZOVm/
[2024-02-09 16:25:38] LickMyBulls : wassa_wassa_bitconee: rekt
[2024-02-09 16:26:03] iamthetroll : nice lines and boxes
[2024-02-09 16:26:15] wassa_wassa_bitconee : LickMyBulls: I have stop in place sir.
[2024-02-09 16:26:18] migozelaaa : wassa_wassa_bitconee: rekt but you already know that, you come here to just go against the flow.
[2024-02-09 16:26:49] wassa_wassa_bitconee : migozelaaa: only dead go with the flow
[2024-02-09 16:26:57] fcarvas : There's still time to close your longs before doom
[2024-02-09 16:27:11] laPanini : what doom?
[2024-02-09 16:27:20] migozelaaa : wassa_wassa_bitconee: Why do you hate making money so much?
[2024-02-09 16:27:24] laPanini : like clockwork it bounces again and again sirs :rocket:
[2024-02-09 16:27:30] laPanini : no exceptions :rocket:
[2024-02-09 16:27:58] jjhiijiji : man migozella it might actually correct a bit dude i mean would you be surprised if we dip a K or 2 after pumping 5k?
[2024-02-09 16:27:59] fcarvas : laPanini: Perma bulls are about to get rekt hard
[2024-02-09 16:28:07] laPanini : lol, no.
[2024-02-09 16:28:16] wassa_wassa_bitconee : migozelaaa: I am stupid pleb sir.
[2024-02-09 16:28:19] laPanini : green button = profit
[2024-02-09 16:28:38] The Emerging Bull : /position xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: -13,000 USD @ 47650.5878 ```
[2024-02-09 16:29:17] fcarvas : The Emerging Bull: Good entry, you'll get paid
[2024-02-09 16:29:20] wassa_wassa_bitconee : The Emerging Bull: noice
[2024-02-09 16:29:27] jjhiijiji : or not
[2024-02-09 16:29:28] jjhiijiji : well see
[2024-02-09 16:29:39] wassa_wassa_bitconee : /position xbtusd I just shorted this second pump. ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: -5,000 USD @ 47471.5 ```
[2024-02-09 16:29:44] The Emerging Bull : Thanks, we will see
[2024-02-09 16:30:02] laPanini : i see future rekt beras in chat :rocket:
[2024-02-09 16:30:34] the_dode : supply crunch 50k incoming
[2024-02-09 16:30:37] Vladimir.Putin : trend is always longer than you think.... better wait us trader off for swing long again
[2024-02-09 16:30:47] migozelaaa : The Emerging Bull: rekt but thanks for your money
[2024-02-09 16:30:59] The Emerging Bull : migozelaaa: no probs
[2024-02-09 16:34:40] jjhiijiji : gobble gobble
[2024-02-09 16:34:43] jjhiijiji : nom nom nom
[2024-02-09 16:36:03] fcarvas : migozelaaa: Close your long while you're still in profit mate
[2024-02-09 16:36:41] migozelaaa : fcarvas: Haha I'm not stupid enough to do something like that.
[2024-02-09 16:36:54] fcarvas : migozelaaa: What's your liq price
[2024-02-09 16:37:27] migozelaaa : fcarvas: I have a stop on profit, what does the liq matter?
[2024-02-09 16:38:03] Ringox75 : https://www.boredpanda.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/crypto-crash-memes-62ab216d0c107-png__700.jpg
[2024-02-09 16:39:02] BTCcheers : https://www.tradingview.com/x/THvoEIuQ/ bukkish 15min btc ez sleazy moinee hunnee
[2024-02-09 16:39:22] Ringox75 : migozelaaa: alwsyas use stop :)
[2024-02-09 16:39:34] jjhiijiji : Ringox75: i love this old guy meme background. his eyes really show the pain in his soul
[2024-02-09 16:41:00] Vladimir.Putin : what is the best meme to hold for long term after dump happend
[2024-02-09 16:41:13] migozelaaa : Ringox75: I only put it on for security but it never activates
[2024-02-09 16:41:43] the_dode : 46k is impossible today, look at daily chart. It will either close above breakout straight away or at least make a double top on daily close around 47k
[2024-02-09 16:41:44] Ringox75 : migozelaaa: better safe than sorry :)
[2024-02-09 16:42:33] Ringox75 : the_dode: of course 46 is NOT impossible, it can easy swing 1k in a herartbeat
[2024-02-09 16:42:47] shtarkel : wassa_wassa_bitconee: you sure shorting now?
[2024-02-09 16:42:55] jjhiijiji : 46k far from impossible lel
[2024-02-09 16:43:05] jjhiijiji : 1k is like a blip here after all that pump
[2024-02-09 16:43:22] the_dode : you are not seeing the bigger picture, but w/e
[2024-02-09 16:43:36] jjhiijiji : i see what ur saying, cause there is a line here
[2024-02-09 16:43:53] jjhiijiji : but if you dont think we can drop 1k reguardless i think u dont see the bigger picture not ringo
[2024-02-09 16:43:54] Ringox75 : it went from 47.7 to 46.7 in 30 mins
[2024-02-09 16:44:13] the_dode : I think 46k def possible, but not anymore today
[2024-02-09 16:44:23] jjhiijiji : i see
[2024-02-09 16:44:37] jjhiijiji : i dont get that maybe ur right but i dont understand
[2024-02-09 16:44:53] Ringox75 : we still got Korea wakng up in 3 hours - sometimes weird stuff happens after that
[2024-02-09 16:45:05] Ringox75 : never say never
[2024-02-09 16:45:32] jjhiijiji : i wish i could knoow for certain it 'cant drop 1k for 'x' amount of time' that would be quite useful lel
[2024-02-09 16:45:47] migozelaaa : 50k
[2024-02-09 16:45:49] jjhiijiji : boys got some secret info that we dont
[2024-02-09 16:45:58] migozelaaa : 50k
[2024-02-09 16:46:13] Ringox75 : jjhiijiji: if so i wouldtn be chatting here in a trollbox hehe
[2024-02-09 16:46:30] jjhiijiji : is larry ur buddy by any chance is he telling you whats going on over the phone? he promised not to dump? @the_dode
[2024-02-09 16:46:31] wassa_wassa_bitconee : /position xbtusd I am about to close my short. right now I am shhiting bricks. This ponzi ain't dumping. ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: -5,000 USD @ 47471.5 ```
[2024-02-09 16:46:58] LickMyBulls : wassa_wassa_bitconee: flip long brother. Join us.
[2024-02-09 16:47:01] jjhiijiji : just casually call blackrock CEO, 'bro you dump[ing today? yes? cool thanks'
[2024-02-09 16:47:20] Vladimir.Putin : :btc: ⤵️
[2024-02-09 16:47:20] wassa_wassa_bitconee : LickMyBulls: naaah, I have stop loss order in place. So I am chill with this short.
[2024-02-09 16:47:31] wassa_wassa_bitconee : LoL. Now we are going down.
[2024-02-09 16:50:53] wassa_wassa_bitconee : if we don't dump in next 10 minutes then I will put my stop and breakeven and go to sleep.
[2024-02-09 16:51:29] fcarvas : wassa_wassa_bitconee: Short is the right place to be now. Plebs longing the top
[2024-02-09 16:52:15] shtarkel : We are in overbought territory
[2024-02-09 16:53:11] wassa_wassa_bitconee : fcarvas: I think we will clear out the liquidity above 49k before real dump but I am expecting a smaller dump from here. then 49k+ then ultra dump. But longing here certainly very risky.
[2024-02-09 16:53:16] fcarvas : shtarkel: .0786 herem overbought, only one direction to go
[2024-02-09 16:53:16] iamthetroll : we are always in overbought territory
[2024-02-09 16:53:37] fcarvas : wassa_wassa_bitconee: I don't think you'll get to 49k
[2024-02-09 16:54:23] wassa_wassa_bitconee : fcarvas: maybe not today, maybe in few days. Let's see how it goes.
[2024-02-09 16:55:15] wassa_wassa_bitconee : no dump in next 5 minutes I go to bed.
[2024-02-09 16:55:16] FishyGuy : maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but soon, and for the rest of your life..
[2024-02-09 16:55:28] fcarvas : wassa_wassa_bitconee: Imo higher low, dump bellow 38.5 to reset the market before moon misson
[2024-02-09 16:56:39] migozelaaa : fcarvas: @wassa_wassa_bitconee They can be best friends and have in common that they like to lose money.
[2024-02-09 16:57:20] wassa_wassa_bitconee : migozelaaa: yeah bro. both are stupid.
[2024-02-09 17:01:09] wassa_wassa_bitconee : fook you pussies. stupid beartards not even able to dump below 47k anymore. I am done with it. Going to bed with stop at breakeven. fook you stupid bitches.
[2024-02-09 17:01:13] wassa_wassa_bitconee : /position xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: -5,000 USD @ 47471.5 ```
[2024-02-09 17:02:36] The_Reaper : wassa_wassa_bitconee: lewks like we bout to dump
[2024-02-09 17:02:59] wassa_wassa_bitconee : we fooking bounced 4 times at 47200. which is not even support. What a shame beras.
[2024-02-09 17:03:25] laPanini : bouncing like clockwork, again and again sir.
[2024-02-09 17:03:30] wassa_wassa_bitconee : The_Reaper: Yeah, it looks like dumpy to me since 43k.
[2024-02-09 17:03:38] wassa_wassa_bitconee : lol
[2024-02-09 17:04:00] laPanini : we must be looking at different charts
[2024-02-09 17:04:51] wassa_wassa_bitconee : at least fooking do 46950 so that I can take some profits.
[2024-02-09 17:05:19] wassa_wassa_bitconee : Just look at these stupid motherfookerz buying the absolute yearly top with full fooking confidence.
[2024-02-09 17:05:52] laPanini : what can I say, plebs love to buy expensive corn.
[2024-02-09 17:06:22] Hexagon : mmm expensive corn
[2024-02-09 17:06:54] laPanini : never underestimate people need to buy expensive corn, price will just continue up to satisfy their needs.
[2024-02-09 17:07:14] laPanini : thats why green button is your friend, and longing "tops" is the best strategy atm.
[2024-02-09 17:07:36] wassa_wassa_bitconee : stupid smelly pussies beratards.
[2024-02-09 17:07:43] wassa_wassa_bitconee : waste
[2024-02-09 17:08:26] migozelaaa : wassa_wassa_bitconee: rekt
[2024-02-09 17:08:27] Vladimir.Putin : why bitmex not list ICP and SUI
[2024-02-09 17:08:30] Vladimir.Putin : IMX
[2024-02-09 17:08:45] laPanini : I agree, there is an insane amount of longs open right now, truly insane, but price will continue up. Thats just how it is, no exceptions will be made.
[2024-02-09 17:09:28] laPanini : Why? Because people are waiting to buy higher. Simply put.
[2024-02-09 17:09:56] The_Reaper : Longs are waiting to get liqqed lower
[2024-02-09 17:09:58] The_Reaper : u mean
[2024-02-09 17:10:15] laPanini : Once the averege pleb is pressing green button, then maybe, just maybe, we see a small retrace to scare them of, then repeat.
[2024-02-09 17:10:19] Joeyy132 : Yeah lots of people waiting to buy higher
[2024-02-09 17:10:24] Joeyy132 : fk loads
[2024-02-09 17:11:04] Joeyy132 : Forced to buy higher
[2024-02-09 17:11:17] laPanini : Its odd though, because at supermarkets i always look or ask for the best price, but in crypto, it is the highest price that sells.
[2024-02-09 17:11:45] laPanini : Its like flipping reality upside down. Took a while to realize, but thats just how it is.
[2024-02-09 17:12:23] laPanini : Just look at the line waiting to buy at 52k lol.
[2024-02-09 17:13:04] laPanini : Bull markets truly is the sellers market, if there is no sellers price go up.
[2024-02-09 17:14:25] The_Reaper : its just coinbase
[2024-02-09 17:17:50] the_dode : there was a lot of profit taking after ETF approvals but at the same time new market participants started sucking up all the supply, so now old participants/hard btc believers who cashed out too much are starting fomo buying
[2024-02-09 17:20:47] Dessos : >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlSWkhvtC8k https://www.tradingview.com/x/CP9PRWxF/
[2024-02-09 17:24:33] iamthetroll : bitcoin really is the honey badger that don't give a fuck
[2024-02-09 17:26:06] marsin123 : /pnl ethusdh24 ``` :bitmex: ETHUSDH24: 0.0446 XBT RPNL, 0.1286 XBT UPNL ```
[2024-02-09 17:26:09] marsin123 : Juicy
[2024-02-09 17:26:09] iamthetroll : 48K coming in 3...2...1
[2024-02-09 17:26:39] The_Reaper : we entering extreme greed on the index
[2024-02-09 17:26:43] The_Reaper : u know what that means
[2024-02-09 17:27:16] laPanini : means maximum pumpage!
[2024-02-09 17:27:26] The_Reaper : nah
[2024-02-09 17:27:33] The_Reaper : u should be greedy when others are in fear
[2024-02-09 17:27:47] The_Reaper : and in fear when others are greedy (in this case extrame greedy)
[2024-02-09 17:27:55] the_dode : be greedy when others are greedy
[2024-02-09 17:27:57] al guul : fkin hell
[2024-02-09 17:27:57] laPanini : fear and greed index is a meme anyway.
[2024-02-09 17:28:06] The_Reaper : its not a meme ;)
[2024-02-09 17:28:19] laPanini : I only trade based on anthills.
[2024-02-09 17:28:28] wassa_wassa_bitconee : lol closed my short at break even.
[2024-02-09 17:28:30] laPanini : The more ants the more pump.
[2024-02-09 17:28:40] Vladimir.Putin : its not make new high yet
[2024-02-09 17:29:01] Vladimir.Putin : see other than btc, lower
[2024-02-09 17:29:11] The_Reaper : the index will update in 6hrs
[2024-02-09 17:29:17] The_Reaper : we went from 66 to 72
[2024-02-09 17:29:22] The_Reaper : 75 is extrame greed
[2024-02-09 17:29:23] Punaniman : wassa_wassa_bitconee: 21k next
[2024-02-09 17:29:31] The_Reaper : we are already in extreme greed
[2024-02-09 17:29:33] The_Reaper : basically
[2024-02-09 17:29:43] wassa_wassa_bitconee : Punaniman: 49k next
[2024-02-09 17:29:46] Vladimir.Putin : where u see the index @The_Reaper
[2024-02-09 17:30:09] The_Reaper : Vladimir.Putin: https://alternative.me/crypto/fear-and-greed-index/
[2024-02-09 17:30:14] Vladimir.Putin : ok thx
[2024-02-09 17:30:28] migozelaaa : Bitfrebbe: 48k soon sir
[2024-02-09 17:30:41] migozelaaa : where are you
[2024-02-09 17:30:44] Bitfrebbe : migozelaaa: 👍
[2024-02-09 17:30:58] laPanini : look at what kind of data that makes up that index and you see its just a meme.
[2024-02-09 17:31:44] The_Reaper : look at the times it entered extreme greed and see what happened to the price ;)
[2024-02-09 17:32:20] laPanini : it maximum pumped sir, and then dropped a tiny bit.
[2024-02-09 17:32:37] laPanini : so we are entering a period of maximum pumpage, followed by a 10% drop.
[2024-02-09 17:33:04] laPanini : a 10% drop will push that index back into extreme fear.
[2024-02-09 17:33:08] laPanini : in a heartbeat.
[2024-02-09 17:33:26] CryptoCole : The_Reaper: it can get much greedier, this is nothing lol.
[2024-02-09 17:33:32] laPanini : Sorry, what im trying to say is that I dont use it for my narrative at all.
[2024-02-09 17:33:49] The_Reaper : CryptoCole: jumping from 66 to 72 is insane, and that was before this pumped another 2k
[2024-02-09 17:33:56] The_Reaper : can u imagine at wha tnmbr it is now?
[2024-02-09 17:34:05] CryptoCole : i mean it can sit 90+ for weeeeks
[2024-02-09 17:34:16] CryptoCole : so again this is nothing, jump on tha train
[2024-02-09 17:34:17] laPanini : my point exactly.
[2024-02-09 17:34:24] Ringox75 : “Something to consider before you FOMO into BTC at this level. There is ~$175M in BTC ask liquidity (aka resistance) stacked between here and $50k, and only ~$50M in bid support down to $43k,” part of his own X post read.
[2024-02-09 17:34:35] The_Reaper : hasn't been at 90 since feb 21
[2024-02-09 17:36:12] The_Reaper : Whale Alert @whale_alert · 18s 🚨 🚨 🚨 🚨 32,646 #ETH (81,590,545 USD) transferred from unknown wallet to Coinbase Institutional
[2024-02-09 17:36:22] The_Reaper : noice
[2024-02-09 17:36:54] Darth Maul : The_Reaper: someone's not greedy
[2024-02-09 17:37:09] The_Reaper : some1 is fearfull when others are greedy
[2024-02-09 17:37:46] Vladimir.Putin : ETH 2440 here we come
[2024-02-09 17:38:07] fcarvas : Who+s ready for a dump
[2024-02-09 17:38:28] Vladimir.Putin : its just correction i think
[2024-02-09 17:38:33] laPanini : seems like everyone except the market is ready for a dump.
[2024-02-09 17:38:42] laPanini : why we go higher.
[2024-02-09 17:38:53] the_dode : he's just selling ETH to buy SOL :D
[2024-02-09 17:38:55] laPanini : like clockwork it keeps bouncing, again and again and again.
[2024-02-09 17:39:04] Vladimir.Putin : becasue everyone buy more than sell
[2024-02-09 17:39:35] The_Reaper : the_dode: why would u sell ETH to buy a coin with a broken chain?
[2024-02-09 17:39:48] the_dode : because it pumps harder
[2024-02-09 17:39:49] Vladimir.Putin : again , again , 15 feb , trap in the hole 50k-52k
[2024-02-09 17:39:59] The_Reaper : that crapshet SOL blockchain keeps freezing up
[2024-02-09 17:40:41] the_dode : by now i have already noticed that you keep arguing with poor mans logic
[2024-02-09 17:40:58] The_Reaper : the_dode: this is a trollbox :arthur:
[2024-02-09 17:41:10] The_Reaper : And i'm the verified biggest troll
[2024-02-09 17:41:43] The_Reaper : but serieusly
[2024-02-09 17:41:50] migozelaaa : 60k next week
[2024-02-09 17:41:51] The_Reaper : ETH will be far more superior to SOL after the fork
[2024-02-09 17:42:12] The_Reaper : and then, we will see conversions from SOL > ETH
[2024-02-09 17:42:12] Vladimir.Putin : is it SOL just a MEME ?
[2024-02-09 17:42:49] The_Reaper : the memecoins on sol are just a meme
[2024-02-09 17:42:54] The_Reaper : :elon:
[2024-02-09 17:43:02] Vladimir.Putin : now i just see XRP also make meme token so much
[2024-02-09 17:43:08] the_dode : the one thing you got right is SOL > ETH (sol bigger than eth)
[2024-02-09 17:43:16] The_Reaper : haha
[2024-02-09 17:43:39] Vladimir.Putin : Bigger MEME ....
[2024-02-09 17:43:43] the_dode : anyway idc i hold them both
[2024-02-09 17:43:59] Vladimir.Putin : me to i plan to long king of meme also
[2024-02-09 17:44:14] Vladimir.Putin : just for this cycle
[2024-02-09 17:44:31] The_Reaper : 33684 is a nmbr on btc to remember
[2024-02-09 17:45:04] The_Reaper : that will most likely be the tp for the halving dump
[2024-02-09 17:45:15] The_Reaper : prehalving*
[2024-02-09 17:45:24] Vladimir.Putin : if btc repeat cycle on covid time, its can be lower to 18-22k
[2024-02-09 17:46:20] CryptoCole : this thing is not going lower. it is only moon now.
[2024-02-09 17:46:34] Vladimir.Putin : ya until 15 feb
[2024-02-09 17:46:34] al guul : forever pumpa
[2024-02-09 17:47:31] Vladimir.Putin : there is a history = perfect overbought always make huge correction (OB at all time frame)
[2024-02-09 17:50:04] migozelaaa : 80k in two month
[2024-02-09 17:54:06] migozelaaa : wake up ronnie
[2024-02-09 17:55:32] bmagic : Wow 47k nice
[2024-02-09 17:56:26] laPanini : expected
[2024-02-09 17:58:24] The_Reaper : lez get ready to close this LH
[2024-02-09 17:58:31] The_Reaper : and continue ze dump
[2024-02-09 17:58:47] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated long on `ZETAUSDT`: Sell 240 ZETA @ 1.355 ($325.20)
[2024-02-09 17:59:07] laPanini : dump is canceled indefinitly.
[2024-02-09 17:59:21] laPanini : up we go
[2024-02-09 17:59:24] laPanini : :rocket::rocket:
[2024-02-09 17:59:50] The_Reaper : triple top d34d
[2024-02-09 18:00:19] laPanini : its just a normal triangle waiting to break to the upside, nothing to see here.
[2024-02-09 18:00:38] laPanini : off we go :rocket:
[2024-02-09 18:00:54] Hexagon : bears are getting smart, but not smart enough for this bulltard :catjam:
[2024-02-09 18:01:02] jjhiijiji : holy dingus
[2024-02-09 18:01:05] jjhiijiji : its gonna blow
[2024-02-09 18:01:09] laPanini : easy!
[2024-02-09 18:01:49] jjhiijiji : aaaaaaaaaaaand its gone
[2024-02-09 18:01:52] jjhiijiji : or not
[2024-02-09 18:02:01] al guul : soon mr fiddy says hii
[2024-02-09 18:02:26] The_Reaper : lmao
[2024-02-09 18:02:35] The_Reaper : stophunt
[2024-02-09 18:02:37] The_Reaper : nicely executed
[2024-02-09 18:03:42] laPanini : stop hunt that continues up :rocket:
[2024-02-09 18:04:12] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 800 USD @ 47829 - 🐳
[2024-02-09 18:04:17] laPanini : i call it bear trap :rocket:
[2024-02-09 18:04:26] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated short on `XBTUSDT`: Buy 0.2000 XBT @ 47829.3 ($9,568.58)
[2024-02-09 18:04:47] clarknova : oh my
[2024-02-09 18:06:33] fcarvas : When nuke
[2024-02-09 18:09:25] laPanini : thank you shorters for making this pump possible :rocket:
[2024-02-09 18:09:31] arathorn6 : Green Lambo candle
[2024-02-09 18:09:35] laPanini : as a thank you, have a cookie :cookie:
[2024-02-09 18:10:21] arathorn6 : 100x safe
[2024-02-09 18:11:40] arathorn6 : Sold my dog and went 100x
[2024-02-09 18:11:58] jjhiijiji : remember u can sell 1 of ur kidneys also
[2024-02-09 18:11:59] jjhiijiji : u dont need both
[2024-02-09 18:12:43] Tony1 : SteveS has been VERY quiet the last week or so
[2024-02-09 18:12:54] al guul : rekt
[2024-02-09 18:13:27] The_Reaper : Steves is mega rekt
[2024-02-09 18:13:48] Tony1 : No just a K U NT
[2024-02-09 18:13:51] The_Reaper : he gambled the entire south african governments bitcoins
[2024-02-09 18:13:52] jjhiijiji : steve was calling s horts waaaaaaay down
[2024-02-09 18:14:04] jjhiijiji : havnt seen him since
[2024-02-09 18:15:30] arathorn6 : Never short a rocket
[2024-02-09 18:16:35] arathorn6 : ATH today
[2024-02-09 18:18:02] wassa_wassa_bitconee : 49k is next liquidity
[2024-02-09 18:18:24] jjhiijiji : my penis is next liquidity
[2024-02-09 18:18:37] arathorn6 : When Lambo
[2024-02-09 18:18:55] doublecheese : This pump is insane
[2024-02-09 18:18:56] jjhiijiji : man u still havnt got ur lambo?
[2024-02-09 18:19:03] doublecheese : Never seen anything like this
[2024-02-09 18:19:18] doublecheese : /position xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: 1,800 USD @ 43799.9045 ```
[2024-02-09 18:19:21] laPanini : it happens every four years or so, its not like its rare. :)
[2024-02-09 18:19:22] doublecheese : Never closing
[2024-02-09 18:19:26] doublecheese : Only adding
[2024-02-09 18:19:35] doublecheese : UP ONLY
[2024-02-09 18:19:51] wassa_wassa_bitconee : laPanini: lol 😂
[2024-02-09 18:20:09] Eluus : doublecheese: you must be new here =]
[2024-02-09 18:20:42] jjhiijiji : man alts are gonna be flying next week
[2024-02-09 18:20:42] FishyGuy : nah man maccies have had the doublecheese going for a good while now
[2024-02-09 18:20:51] al guul : pump dammit :btc:
[2024-02-09 18:20:52] doublecheese : Eluus: no I am not lol. Got REKT previous bullrun. Came back now hoping not to make same mistakes
[2024-02-09 18:21:01] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated short on `ETHUSDT`: Buy 0.0800 ETH @ 2511.31 ($200.98)
[2024-02-09 18:21:07] Eluus : /since ``` :bitmex: Eluus has been on BitMEX since Aug 2, 2016. ```
[2024-02-09 18:21:07] Vladimir.Putin : this btc 10k movement in a weak so easy :btc:
[2024-02-09 18:21:11] Eluus : this is my newest account
[2024-02-09 18:21:22] al guul : hehe
[2024-02-09 18:21:22] Eluus : Pump hasn't even started yet
[2024-02-09 18:21:27] al guul : /since ``` :bitmex: al guul has been on BitMEX since Apr 22, 2017. ```
[2024-02-09 18:21:29] Eluus : this is nothing
[2024-02-09 18:21:40] FishyGuy : yeah, there have been more regarded pump moments
[2024-02-09 18:21:52] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 8800 USD @ 47944
[2024-02-09 18:22:00] Eluus : the hype will be insane this time
[2024-02-09 18:22:00] wassa_wassa_bitconee : /position xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: 6,000 USD @ 47574 ```
[2024-02-09 18:22:01] LickMyBulls : Its still going up. Just luke my stiff penis
[2024-02-09 18:22:01] FishyGuy : still a good couple of days for bulls tho
[2024-02-09 18:22:01] clarknova : Entering the danger zone
[2024-02-09 18:22:11] Eluus : /position xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: 400,000 USD @ 34466.9514 ```
[2024-02-09 18:22:13] al guul : hot dang
[2024-02-09 18:22:21] clarknova : Eluus: nice :)
[2024-02-09 18:22:22] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 300 USD @ 47945.5 - 😂
[2024-02-09 18:22:27] jjhiijiji : goddamn thats a juicy fckin pos
[2024-02-09 18:22:28] Eluus : clarknova: thx
[2024-02-09 18:22:32] jjhiijiji : grats Eluus
[2024-02-09 18:22:40] GoldFish79 : *Pew...*
[2024-02-09 18:22:42] migozelaaa : Eluus: nice
[2024-02-09 18:22:47] Eluus : thx guise!
[2024-02-09 18:22:53] wassa_wassa_bitconee : Beratards are fooked now
[2024-02-09 18:22:54] clarknova : Eluus: what lev ?
[2024-02-09 18:23:00] Eluus : I wish everyone great profits
[2024-02-09 18:23:06] doublecheese : Eluus: insane sir.
[2024-02-09 18:23:06] Eluus : clarknova: very little
[2024-02-09 18:23:09] FishyGuy : hah, gj Eluus
[2024-02-09 18:23:15] clarknova : Eluus: It is the way
[2024-02-09 18:23:17] al guul : wassa_wassa_bitconee: hows the new team wassa
[2024-02-09 18:23:20] Eluus : for sure
[2024-02-09 18:23:23] wassa_wassa_bitconee : Last leg up is always biggest fastest and hardest
[2024-02-09 18:23:25] jjhiijiji : thats definitelythe best way
[2024-02-09 18:23:29] doublecheese : Eluus: I can't have great profits because I am poor and scared to increase lev. But thanks
[2024-02-09 18:23:39] wassa_wassa_bitconee : al guul: profitable sir
[2024-02-09 18:23:49] migozelaaa : wassa_wassa_bitconee: short here again ?
[2024-02-09 18:23:57] Eluus : doublecheese: just don't increase leverage, keep stacking. you'll make it
[2024-02-09 18:24:03] wassa_wassa_bitconee : migozelaaa: not until 49k
[2024-02-09 18:24:12] migozelaaa : wassa_wassa_bitconee: lol
[2024-02-09 18:24:21] migozelaaa : /position xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: 90,000 USD @ 42525.3238 ```
[2024-02-09 18:24:27] LickMyBulls : Wassa wassa js long? Time to short browrther
[2024-02-09 18:24:37] wassa_wassa_bitconee : /position xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: 6,000 USD @ 47574 ```
[2024-02-09 18:24:40] Hexagon : /position xbtusd any top longers ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: 27,900 USD @ 47225.9478 ```
[2024-02-09 18:24:42] migozelaaa : Eluus: target ?
[2024-02-09 18:24:49] LickMyBulls : 🚀
[2024-02-09 18:24:51] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated short on `XBTUSDT`: Buy 1 XBT @ 48017.3 ($48,033.71) - Bonjour!
[2024-02-09 18:24:58] clarknova : oh boy
[2024-02-09 18:24:59] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 111700 USD @ 48107 - No refunds :arthur:
[2024-02-09 18:24:59] Vladimir.Putin : 48k !!
[2024-02-09 18:25:04] chujev : 🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀
[2024-02-09 18:25:13] doublecheese : Eluus: thank you, hope so! Actually I am 1.2x now but wanna increase it gradually to 5-10x. Not more tho
[2024-02-09 18:25:16] al guul : mi models are breking
[2024-02-09 18:25:26] doublecheese : That is my planned lev for the bullrun
[2024-02-09 18:25:35] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 382400 USD @ 48167.5 - Ciao!
[2024-02-09 18:25:35] ninnk : 👀👀👀👀👀
[2024-02-09 18:25:37] Hexagon : signal is: pamp
[2024-02-09 18:25:39] Vladimir.Putin : 49k ???
[2024-02-09 18:26:01] LickMyBulls : /position xbtusd @Hexagon yes my dude ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: 15,000 USD @ 47200.5362 ```
[2024-02-09 18:26:10] doublecheese : /pnl xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: 0.0037 XBT RPNL, -0.0000 XBT UPNL ```
[2024-02-09 18:26:13] Hexagon : LickMyBulls: :catjam:
[2024-02-09 18:26:28] LickMyBulls : Hexagon: :catjam: it is the degen way
[2024-02-09 18:27:07] LickMyBulls : Might take a wee bit of profit but stops break even so its a no risk top long
[2024-02-09 18:27:36] magicaltux : lol we gonna retire so hard
[2024-02-09 18:27:46] LickMyBulls : magicaltux: :kek:
[2024-02-09 18:27:48] Eluus : migozelaaa: thinking about it the target the time
[2024-02-09 18:27:49] Hexagon : took good profits today and we still pump, bless the corn.
[2024-02-09 18:27:51] Eluus : all the time*
[2024-02-09 18:28:31] wassa_wassa_bitconee : /position xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: 1,000 USD @ 47574 ```
[2024-02-09 18:28:31] jjhiijiji : bless the corn.
[2024-02-09 18:29:20] LickMyBulls : Still laughing @MrBritcoin opening a 500k position then closing on 44keks before we pammmmmped :kek:
[2024-02-09 18:29:37] jjhiijiji : crazy bast4rd
[2024-02-09 18:29:37] magicaltux : imagine shorting
[2024-02-09 18:29:39] jjhiijiji : and not a word since eh
[2024-02-09 18:29:42] jjhiijiji : hes just gone
[2024-02-09 18:29:45] jjhiijiji : i think actually he spoke once
[2024-02-09 18:29:50] jjhiijiji : and then dissappeared
[2024-02-09 18:29:56] Vladimir.Putin : hahaha
[2024-02-09 18:30:07] SkyMora : /position xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: 8,000 USD @ 41250.2114 ```
[2024-02-09 18:30:10] jjhiijiji : britcoin where aaaare youuuu
[2024-02-09 18:30:16] Vladimir.Putin : damn ETH not fly yet
[2024-02-09 18:30:37] jjhiijiji : alts should pump masssively in next days / week
[2024-02-09 18:30:44] LickMyBulls : I love troll box when we pump. So much friendlier than when its bera in here
[2024-02-09 18:30:53] clarknova : jjhiijiji: He's in profit of ฿1.1391
[2024-02-09 18:30:55] SkyMora : massive wall
[2024-02-09 18:30:56] jjhiijiji : bears want the world to be destroyed thats why
[2024-02-09 18:31:19] jjhiijiji : they get rich off suffering
[2024-02-09 18:31:41] jjhiijiji : clarknova: you mean overall or is there a new open long
[2024-02-09 18:31:47] MrBritcoin : LickMyBulls: 🖕🏼
[2024-02-09 18:31:51] jjhiijiji : there he is !!!
[2024-02-09 18:32:03] jjhiijiji : man ppl were looking for u
[2024-02-09 18:32:18] jjhiijiji : did you open a new long?
[2024-02-09 18:32:24] wassa_wassa_bitconee : /pnl xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: 0.0011 XBT RPNL, -0.0001 XBT UPNL ```
[2024-02-09 18:32:34] wassa_wassa_bitconee : /position xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: 2,000 USD @ 47822.2 ```
[2024-02-09 18:32:59] clarknova : jjhiijiji: :)
[2024-02-09 18:33:05] wassa_wassa_bitconee : Stop at break even took profit at 48050
[2024-02-09 18:33:11] tdmarty : /pnl xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: 0.0538 XBT RPNL, 0.0501 XBT UPNL ```
[2024-02-09 18:33:19] jjhiijiji : MrBritcoin: did u open new long dude? last time i remember u were shorting 44k and u dissappeared
[2024-02-09 18:33:27] MrBritcoin : LickMyBulls: look out big shot
[2024-02-09 18:33:38] wassa_wassa_bitconee : jjhiijiji: I got rekt
[2024-02-09 18:34:07] MrBritcoin : jjhiijiji: im good just in stelth mode
[2024-02-09 18:34:19] jjhiijiji : you in a new pos? or u dont wanna share?
[2024-02-09 18:34:26] ninnk : "be fearful when others are greedy" guys what the shit is going on??
[2024-02-09 18:34:27] jjhiijiji : @MrBticoin
[2024-02-09 18:34:30] laPanini : youre way to yellow to be stealth. :)
[2024-02-09 18:34:47] wassa_wassa_bitconee : MrBritcoin: any position bro ?
[2024-02-09 18:34:58] MrBritcoin : https://prnt.sc/2lYkn41IwnWx
[2024-02-09 18:35:19] ayooo : is it too late for a long?
[2024-02-09 18:35:48] joli_ : DINEROOOOOOO
[2024-02-09 18:36:24] MrBritcoin : joli_: 😏
[2024-02-09 18:36:33] Sveinb : No effin way 1 btc is worth 50000 usd, this is onsane
[2024-02-09 18:36:38] jjhiijiji : ayooo: depends who ur asking
[2024-02-09 18:36:59] ayooo : jjhiijiji: I'm asking you :v
[2024-02-09 18:37:13] LickMyBulls : Sveinb: 50keks will be cheap is 6 months time. Load up while you can
[2024-02-09 18:37:26] FishyGuy : Sveinb: give it a few years and 50k will be nothing
[2024-02-09 18:37:31] jjhiijiji : ayooo: i opened long a few k down from here so i feel quite safe, im not sure if i would open a long here now personally but i have no idea if pump will continue
[2024-02-09 18:37:40] jjhiijiji : weve already pumped so much in a couple days
[2024-02-09 18:37:55] jjhiijiji : eventually i beleive it will go up. this moment though i dont know
[2024-02-09 18:37:58] Ringox75 : jjhiijiji: Long is very fine here as well
[2024-02-09 18:38:00] fcarvas : The nuke will be massive
[2024-02-09 18:38:11] LickMyBulls : fcarvas: are you short dude?
[2024-02-09 18:38:15] MrBritcoin : wassa_wassa_bitconee: im not going to say what im doing from now on bud i say to much in this box an im trying to make up for getting icked off the leader board so watch this space m8
[2024-02-09 18:38:33] jjhiijiji : Ringox75: maybe on really low lev? personal opinion i wud be afraid to open right at the top of current run
[2024-02-09 18:38:49] jjhiijiji : in retrospect it could be a great place to logn, who knows
[2024-02-09 18:38:51] Ringox75 : jjhiijiji: you could do 20 or less
[2024-02-09 18:39:05] jjhiijiji : i dno man really
[2024-02-09 18:39:10] jjhiijiji : 20 seems like waaaay too much for me
[2024-02-09 18:39:23] jjhiijiji : 20x gets u burtned with a 5% move
[2024-02-09 18:39:27] LickMyBulls : Weekends degens are gojng to puch this up to 52k
[2024-02-09 18:39:29] jjhiijiji : 5% is like nothing after a huge pump like this
[2024-02-09 18:39:31] wassa_wassa_bitconee : MrBritcoin: ohhh, what happened bro ? Everything alright ? Got rekt or missed the move ?
[2024-02-09 18:39:38] jjhiijiji : it could dump 5% in seconds or minutes and still be bullish