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[2017-05-01 09:32:24] KyllingLolsson : longbydefault: best thing u can ever do is to stay in the present moment
[2017-05-01 09:32:29] KyllingLolsson : thats all u ever have to do
[2017-05-01 09:32:32] KyllingLolsson : forever
[2017-05-01 09:32:59] KyllingLolsson : accept every feeling, even the worst ones
[2017-05-01 09:33:06] longbydefault : KyllingLolsson: so you would describe yourself as spiritual... that's great :D
[2017-05-01 09:33:10] KyllingLolsson : just stay with it as a friend
[2017-05-01 09:33:29] longbydefault : KyllingLolsson: thanks i will try to keep silent/still
[2017-05-01 09:33:39] KyllingLolsson : well, spiritual is a concept that can be misinterpreted but yes :P
[2017-05-01 09:33:45] 5bg : how will the gno liquation model change over. if polo sells first gno at 1 btc will index be used here straight away? will limits be kept at least for the first 10 mins?
[2017-05-01 09:34:22] KyllingLolsson : longbydefault: :)
[2017-05-01 09:34:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTM17`: sell 1500 @ 1390.9
[2017-05-01 09:34:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTM17`: sell 1576 @ 1388.0
[2017-05-01 09:34:32] KyllingLolsson : good to find another soulful person
[2017-05-01 09:34:37] BitMEX_John : 5bg: I will check with another member of the team, one moment
[2017-05-01 09:35:07] KyllingLolsson : wow june
[2017-05-01 09:35:44] longbydefault : anon is killing it with 10x short
[2017-05-01 09:36:05] aron : who?
[2017-05-01 09:36:11] aron : im not shorting
[2017-05-01 09:36:15] KyllingLolsson : damn
[2017-05-01 09:36:20] KyllingLolsson : u got out?
[2017-05-01 09:36:31] aron : ye :/
[2017-05-01 09:36:37] KyllingLolsson : fear...
[2017-05-01 09:36:45] KyllingLolsson : traders worst enemy
[2017-05-01 09:36:53] aron : i even expected it to crash :-/
[2017-05-01 09:37:01] KyllingLolsson : im also like u
[2017-05-01 09:37:20] aron : i should learn after watching the big short
[2017-05-01 09:37:22] KyllingLolsson : just go x1 and save up
[2017-05-01 09:37:25] aron : did u see the movie?
[2017-05-01 09:37:29] KyllingLolsson : noo :P
[2017-05-01 09:37:34] aron : what does going 1x do?
[2017-05-01 09:37:38] Zelo : best thing for my trading was to make a decision and then come back later in 3 hours XD
[2017-05-01 09:37:46] Ahhere : Zelo: this
[2017-05-01 09:37:57] KyllingLolsson : aron: just keep u safe
[2017-05-01 09:38:14] aron : but even 5x is safe
[2017-05-01 09:38:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTM17`: sell 11513 @ 1384.2
[2017-05-01 09:38:25] KyllingLolsson : yeah
[2017-05-01 09:38:36] KyllingLolsson : better to not win as much, as to lose
[2017-05-01 09:38:45] KyllingLolsson : gremmer
[2017-05-01 09:38:50] aron : kylling i expect the btc to be around 1800 by the end of the year
[2017-05-01 09:39:00] aron : should i just save till then?
[2017-05-01 09:39:06] aron : i mean buy at 1x
[2017-05-01 09:39:10] aron : at 1386
[2017-05-01 09:39:15] aron : wait till 1700
[2017-05-01 09:39:28] KyllingLolsson : u decide urself if u wanna short or long, but o low lev
[2017-05-01 09:39:46] KyllingLolsson : because, u trust the judgement in someone who might be wrong
[2017-05-01 09:40:02] aron : no i mean if im sure it will be around 1600+ by the end of the year
[2017-05-01 09:40:11] aron : i see no problem with going long
[2017-05-01 09:40:11] KyllingLolsson : i think it will crash
[2017-05-01 09:40:18] aron : i expect it to crash to 1000
[2017-05-01 09:40:20] aron : or 900
[2017-05-01 09:40:27] aron : but go back up to 1800
[2017-05-01 09:40:28] KyllingLolsson : if 900, then we in a bear market
[2017-05-01 09:40:34] aron : u nean 1800
[2017-05-01 09:40:38] KyllingLolsson : look at the GOX top
[2017-05-01 09:40:45] KyllingLolsson : patterns
[2017-05-01 09:40:47] KyllingLolsson : similar
[2017-05-01 09:40:56] KyllingLolsson : extreme volatility
[2017-05-01 09:41:02] KyllingLolsson : up and down
[2017-05-01 09:41:04] aron : kylling my point is do i care about the crash?
[2017-05-01 09:41:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 60439 @ 1373.0 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2017-05-01 09:41:07] REKT : :btc: :soon: :toilet:
[2017-05-01 09:41:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 100 @ 1373.2
[2017-05-01 09:41:12] Zelo : WOOOOW
[2017-05-01 09:41:14] KyllingLolsson : aron: i
[2017-05-01 09:41:19] KyllingLolsson : i'd gi short
[2017-05-01 09:41:34] KyllingLolsson : Zelo: thats othing!
[2017-05-01 09:41:36] KyllingLolsson : /rrekt
[2017-05-01 09:41:55] KyllingLolsson : the biggest i ever saw was 1 mil dollar
[2017-05-01 09:42:14] aron : serves the whales right for playing with us
[2017-05-01 09:42:16] KyllingLolsson : if i remember correctly
[2017-05-01 09:42:28] Ahhere : Ouch that's a bad day
[2017-05-01 09:43:11] Ahhere : Even at 33x that's still 30k
[2017-05-01 09:43:46] Ahhere : At 3x 333k whoops
[2017-05-01 09:44:24] KyllingLolsson : damn
[2017-05-01 09:44:33] KyllingLolsson : if u aint rich, u cant lose that much :D
[2017-05-01 09:44:47] KyllingLolsson : better not get rich
[2017-05-01 09:45:01] stf28 : KyllingLolsson: wrong, 60000 contracts @ 33x it's 1.5xbt margin
[2017-05-01 09:45:17] stf28 : Ahhere:
[2017-05-01 09:45:30] KyllingLolsson : omg i LOVE carrot juice
[2017-05-01 09:46:02] Ahhere : stf28: no talking about the 1 million contract long rekt @KyllingLolsson saw
[2017-05-01 09:46:21] KyllingLolsson : /rrekt
[2017-05-01 09:46:22] stf28 : ah ok yeah it hurts more ^^
[2017-05-01 09:46:35] KyllingLolsson : damn where is the top score
[2017-05-01 09:46:38] KyllingLolsson : /rekt
[2017-05-01 09:46:44] stf28 : bot banned
[2017-05-01 09:46:48] KyllingLolsson : what!
[2017-05-01 09:46:50] KyllingLolsson : hahah
[2017-05-01 09:46:52] stf28 : for our pleasure :)
[2017-05-01 09:46:58] KyllingLolsson : well
[2017-05-01 09:47:19] stf28 : seriously, make your own bot or pay me i'll do whatever you need :D
[2017-05-01 09:47:38] Ahhere : Can we just break 1400 already ffs
[2017-05-01 09:47:53] brouk : Ahhere: have patience
[2017-05-01 09:48:09] longbydefault : worst recorded in rrekt is around 880k
[2017-05-01 09:48:36] shapeshifter : BitMEX_John: in the gno contract you say limits will be removed when gno is listed. Why now the limits are removed only after 6 hours? This is totally unfair given people have bought in based on the contract you published.
[2017-05-01 09:48:43] Ahhere : Yes but it is from the time farzads bot was born @longbydefault
[2017-05-01 09:48:45] KyllingLolsson : at 10x thats 64 btc
[2017-05-01 09:48:59] longbydefault : yep i don't have any data before the bot
[2017-05-01 09:49:01] shapeshifter : You don't change the rules of the game when the ball is running
[2017-05-01 09:49:23] 5bg : shapeshifter: where is that info?
[2017-05-01 09:49:33] shapeshifter : Announcement
[2017-05-01 09:49:40] shapeshifter : Total bs
[2017-05-01 09:49:47] shapeshifter : Unbelievable
[2017-05-01 09:49:56] KyllingLolsson : wat
[2017-05-01 09:50:06] shapeshifter : Look at the announcement
[2017-05-01 09:50:09] REKT : The biggest REKT ever was (drumroll):
[2017-05-01 09:50:14] REKT : 2016-06-12T12:00:08.259Z Posted to chat: Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 1844171 @ 645.49 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire:
[2017-05-01 09:50:18] shapeshifter : Limits removed 2nd may
[2017-05-01 09:50:25] KyllingLolsson : wow!
[2017-05-01 09:50:27] KyllingLolsson : dat rekt
[2017-05-01 09:50:31] longbydefault : wow... haha 1.8M
[2017-05-01 09:50:52] 5bg : oh not until tomorrow limits removed, time to short away
[2017-05-01 09:50:55] BitMEX_John : shapeshifter: the limits are removed after the index is chenged to Polo
[2017-05-01 09:51:12] BitMEX_John : shapeshifter: could you please clarify what you meant by 6 hours?
[2017-05-01 09:51:28] aron : what does limits removed mean?
[2017-05-01 09:51:34] shapeshifter : Gno are released at 5pm
[2017-05-01 09:51:53] shapeshifter : Will you remove the limits then?
[2017-05-01 09:52:02] BitMEX_John : aron: the risk limits will be removed from the gno futures contracts
[2017-05-01 09:52:05] shapeshifter : Or at 12
[2017-05-01 09:52:13] BitMEX_John : shapeshifter: no, they will be removed when the index changes
[2017-05-01 09:52:13] zqooN : is REKT bored? with the sudden announcements?
[2017-05-01 09:52:26] aron : this wont affect xbt right?
[2017-05-01 09:52:28] BitMEX_John : shapeshifter: 12:00 UTC May 2nd
[2017-05-01 09:52:36] BitMEX_John : aron: no effect on XBT :)
[2017-05-01 09:52:41] aron : thankx
[2017-05-01 09:52:55] shapeshifter : In the contract you state limits will be removed when gno is listed
[2017-05-01 09:53:02] shapeshifter : Which is 5pm
[2017-05-01 09:53:04] JermiRoss : @BitMEX_John So at what time polo is adding GNO..??
[2017-05-01 09:53:10] aron : unless people buy xbt to drown in the sorrow of losing gno limits
[2017-05-01 09:53:29] BitMEX_John : JermiRoss: I don't believe they have confirmed that yet
[2017-05-01 09:53:37] shapeshifter : Polo will list at 5pm
[2017-05-01 09:53:44] shapeshifter : Kraken the same
[2017-05-01 09:54:02] BitMEX_John : shapeshifter: where did you come across this information?
[2017-05-01 09:54:13] REKT : REKT didn't get enough liquidations today @Noobz
[2017-05-01 09:54:25] shapeshifter : Mex should do as well, instead using an arbitrary date and time 6 hours after release
[2017-05-01 09:54:40] zqooN : REKT: I'm sorry to hear that
[2017-05-01 09:54:48] shapeshifter : Kraken official statement, you can check
[2017-05-01 09:55:05] REKT : REKT thinks tomorrow will be better
[2017-05-01 09:55:07] BitMEX_John : shapeshifter: I will pass your feedback onto the team
[2017-05-01 09:55:19] shapeshifter : Actually users will be allowed to bid before the release
[2017-05-01 09:55:28] shapeshifter : Ask will follow after release
[2017-05-01 09:55:36] BitMEX_John : shapeshifter: in the time period between GNO listing and us removing our limits the price will move to wherever it is trading on Polo
[2017-05-01 09:55:37] zqooN : REKT: Gnosis will bring you a glorious day
[2017-05-01 09:55:48] REKT : REKT is ready!
[2017-05-01 09:56:12] shapeshifter : How is it possible if I have an artificial limit at 25%
[2017-05-01 09:56:15] BitMEX_John : shapeshifter: this gives a more ordered way for people to exit their positions if they have to
[2017-05-01 09:56:24] Tetsuo : BitMEX_John: ZEC didn´t really follow Polo price for some weeks after it was listed there
[2017-05-01 09:56:32] BitMEX_John : shapeshifter: it will move in two hour chunks
[2017-05-01 09:56:51] shapeshifter : If price goes up 100% I can only sell to 25% up
[2017-05-01 09:57:07] shapeshifter : Ye in two hours everything can happen
[2017-05-01 09:57:15] shapeshifter : Look at zcash
[2017-05-01 09:57:17] zqooN : REKT: you should hand out these to all your willing followers
[2017-05-01 09:57:19] zqooN : https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/40/f9/b6/40f9b658b9b46160ce8b8dd415bdb106.jpg
[2017-05-01 09:57:37] BitMEX_John : shapeshifter: I understand your concern, I will pass your feedback onto the team and we will see how things go
[2017-05-01 09:57:53] shapeshifter : This is the second time people on here gets screwed by artificial limit you have put on
[2017-05-01 09:58:20] shapeshifter : I don't need you to pass concerns, I need you to remove the limits when gno is released
[2017-05-01 09:58:34] shapeshifter : AS PER YOUR CONTRACT
[2017-05-01 09:58:35] BitMEX_John : shapeshifter: I understand but if we had no limit people would argue the other way, that we have screwed them by not having limits
[2017-05-01 09:58:55] shapeshifter : You said in the contract you were removing them
[2017-05-01 09:59:19] BitMEX_John : shapeshifter: we are removing them, I am sorry if the contract led you to believe it would be immediate
[2017-05-01 09:59:22] shapeshifter : Now you change rule last minute
[2017-05-01 09:59:40] Farzad2 : /price
[2017-05-01 09:59:46] shapeshifter : You say limits are removed when first exchange list them
[2017-05-01 09:59:50] Farzad2 : wut ?
[2017-05-01 09:59:55] Farzad2 : /price
[2017-05-01 10:00:00] Farzad2 : :(
[2017-05-01 10:00:06] zqooN : Farzad2: today no price
[2017-05-01 10:00:07] BitMEX_John : shapeshifter: Poloniex still hasn't confirmed the exact time trading on GNO will go live, we chose the date and time we did to give people as much prior warning as possible
[2017-05-01 10:00:10] shapeshifter : Now artificial limits will contain any spike up
[2017-05-01 10:00:20] Farzad2 : who banned me
[2017-05-01 10:00:23] shapeshifter : Kraken has confirmed
[2017-05-01 10:00:44] shapeshifter : And you say in the contract after first exchange lists them
[2017-05-01 10:00:52] shapeshifter : People buy based on contracts
[2017-05-01 10:01:06] shapeshifter : Not based on you changing rules last minute
[2017-05-01 10:01:23] BitMEX_John : shapeshifter: as per the contract it says "Advance notice will be given."
[2017-05-01 10:01:34] shapeshifter : And read before that
[2017-05-01 10:02:14] zqooN : Farzad2: don't think you'rebanned
[2017-05-01 10:02:28] zqooN : bot crashed
[2017-05-01 10:02:34] BitMEX_John : shapeshifter: as I said before I'm sorry if we led you to believe it would happen immediately
[2017-05-01 10:02:35] Farzad2 : zqooN: I'm kidding, the server that was hosting the bot is expired
[2017-05-01 10:02:42] zqooN : lol ok
[2017-05-01 10:02:53] shapeshifter : LIMITS UP AND DOWN WILL BE REMOVED ONCE A GNO GETS LISTED ON A SECONDARY MARKET EXCHANGE
[2017-05-01 10:03:08] rapidtrades : This is wrong, with 25% limits there is NO WAY price will follow polo during launch
[2017-05-01 10:03:09] shapeshifter : You wrote this in your contract
[2017-05-01 10:03:22] rapidtrades : pretty much any coin launch has exprienced higher vol
[2017-05-01 10:03:29] shapeshifter : You need to deliver on what you promise
[2017-05-01 10:03:40] Farzad2 : dont worry guys, Gnosis is trash anyway
[2017-05-01 10:03:45] Farzad2 : will crash so hard soon
[2017-05-01 10:03:50] shapeshifter : Already screwed up with zcash
[2017-05-01 10:03:52] Farzad2 : a big scam
[2017-05-01 10:04:23] rapidtrades : right and LTC isn't scam? bought 2x on insider trading and keeps going up with empty blocks
[2017-05-01 10:04:26] shapeshifter : Worried about covering liquidation with your own money cause the engine is not good enough?
[2017-05-01 10:04:30] rapidtrades : get lost farzad its all a scam
[2017-05-01 10:04:52] shapeshifter : Then if that's not the case remove the limits fairly as per your contract
[2017-05-01 10:05:00] rapidtrades : only question is when ur coin will explode, not if
[2017-05-01 10:05:05] shapeshifter : This is so shady if you dont
[2017-05-01 10:05:39] Farzad2 : LTC will crash as well
[2017-05-01 10:06:09] shapeshifter : I really hope you fix this before release
[2017-05-01 10:06:11] rapidtrades : this gives very unfair advantage to bots, after launch GNO will not be trabeable here for regular folks
[2017-05-01 10:06:34] rapidtrades : all orders will get executed within 1-2 after limits reset
[2017-05-01 10:06:37] shapeshifter : I won't trust having money on an exchange where rules change last minute
[2017-05-01 10:06:44] rapidtrades : ppl could get locked out for hours
[2017-05-01 10:06:47] shapeshifter : After you have money in the game
[2017-05-01 10:07:06] rapidtrades : I meant 1-2 seconds after limits reset
[2017-05-01 10:07:48] aron : why do i have a realised PNL in my XBTM17?
[2017-05-01 10:07:49] shapeshifter : Limits will be there for 2 hrs
[2017-05-01 10:08:04] aron : i thought futures didnt have that
[2017-05-01 10:08:31] Sultan Pepper : aron: m/t fees
[2017-05-01 10:08:35] BitMEX_John : aron: when you enter the position you pay a fee
[2017-05-01 10:09:16] aron : oh ok
[2017-05-01 10:09:58] shapeshifter : BitMEX_John: will we have reply why you changed the contract terms on GNO then?
[2017-05-01 10:10:03] rapidtrades : these 2k ppl came mainly for GNO and now they will have to sit and watch bots ake their money
[2017-05-01 10:10:08] rapidtrades : not cool
[2017-05-01 10:10:09] shapeshifter : Few hours before release?
[2017-05-01 10:10:48] BitMEX_John : shapeshifter: as I said before I have passed your feedback onto the team, I am sorry you are not happy with the way we have handled this
[2017-05-01 10:11:08] BitMEX_John : rapidtrades: I understand, I will pass on your feedback too
[2017-05-01 10:11:27] shapeshifter : BitMEX_John: and what's the reply instead passing feedback but not having a reply back?
[2017-05-01 10:12:03] rapidtrades : BitMEX_John: thanks john
[2017-05-01 10:12:21] shapeshifter : BitMEX_John: when you change contract terms you should have a reason for this. Can we know which one is it?
[2017-05-01 10:13:00] shapeshifter : BitMEX_John: ppl will be happy when gnosis shoots up on the line and we are stuck at 25% limit.
[2017-05-01 10:13:13] BitMEX_John : shapeshifter: respectfully, we are going in circles here, the contract specifies that once GNO is listed on a spot exchange we will remove the risk limits and advance notice will be given
[2017-05-01 10:13:47] BitMEX_John : shapeshifter: it is my understanding that we did not intend to imply that we would remove them immediately, hence why the contract mentions advanced notice
[2017-05-01 10:14:03] rapidtrades : if u commit to listing a futures BEFORE its on exchanges then you have to be okay with the volatility during launch....25% will not be enough, 25% is not enough for cryptos like ETH and LTC lately
[2017-05-01 10:14:09] shapeshifter : BitMEX_John: no read your contract. You say you remove limits once one gnosis is listed. And the advance is given for that
[2017-05-01 10:14:30] shapeshifter : Read the contract
[2017-05-01 10:14:57] shapeshifter : What is the problem to remove them on launch time then?
[2017-05-01 10:15:15] BitMEX_John : shapeshifter: I understand hoe you have interpreted it like that, so I can pass this onto the team can you please show me where Kraken has announced the exact time it will list?
[2017-05-01 10:15:26] rapidtrades : or you can disable the GNO API to put everyone on the same playing field? @BitMEX_John
[2017-05-01 10:15:29] BitMEX_John : how*
[2017-05-01 10:15:33] rapidtrades : until u remove the limits?
[2017-05-01 10:15:41] shapeshifter : I will forward you the email
[2017-05-01 10:15:50] BitMEX_John : shapeshifter: john@bitmex.com
[2017-05-01 10:15:51] zqooN : BitMEX_John: http://blog.kraken.com/post/160097978557/kraken-to-open-gnosis-gno-trading
[2017-05-01 10:16:13] shapeshifter : Launch time is announced officially by gnosis team too
[2017-05-01 10:16:17] podizzle3k : the problem with that is that polo has not commited to that time
[2017-05-01 10:16:28] podizzle3k : and bitmex is using polo as leader
[2017-05-01 10:17:22] podizzle3k : maybe they have i dont recall seing a specif time tho
[2017-05-01 10:17:45] shapeshifter : Exactly 17.01 utc time, it's in that blog
[2017-05-01 10:18:10] shapeshifter : So you have official information now to remove the limits at that time?
[2017-05-01 10:19:04] BitMEX_John : podizzle3k: they haven't issued a specific time yet
[2017-05-01 10:19:18] shapeshifter : They don't say polo in the contract
[2017-05-01 10:19:38] shapeshifter : It says 17.01 more specific than that?
[2017-05-01 10:19:44] zqooN : _Kraken is pleased to announce that trading for Gnosis (GNO) tokens will launch shortly after GNO tokens are **released** to ICO auction buyers on **Monday May 1, 17:09:49 UTC**. Order books will be enabled sometime **in the few hours before tokens are released** and traders can start placing buy orders at that time_
[2017-05-01 10:19:48] BitMEX_John : shapeshifter: no, we have made our announcement on when we will remove the risk limits and traders are preparing for that now so we will not change it
[2017-05-01 10:19:50] shapeshifter : It even says bids will be allowed before
[2017-05-01 10:20:03] BitMEX_John : shapeshifter: I was referring to Poloniex
[2017-05-01 10:20:28] shapeshifter : On the contract it does not say polo, it says the first one
[2017-05-01 10:20:36] micmix : BitMEX_John: don't remove the limits before announced time, you don't want first 0.0001 GNO trade liquidate all MMs here
[2017-05-01 10:20:42] shapeshifter : And polo will list to right of the bat too
[2017-05-01 10:21:09] rapidtrades : micmix: f*Ck off
[2017-05-01 10:21:17] podizzle3k : actually the notice says the time from listing to circuits being removed will be used to determine the most liquid exchange
[2017-05-01 10:21:22] podizzle3k : so thats probably the reason
[2017-05-01 10:21:31] shapeshifter : So people should lose money because artificial limits while polo and kraken have none?? @micmix
[2017-05-01 10:21:41] rapidtrades : remove listing, don't mark to polo until its launched over there
[2017-05-01 10:21:42] CBF : wots a circuit
[2017-05-01 10:21:47] BitMEX_John : shapeshifter: you have misinterpreted our intention in the contract, as I said before we intended to give advance notice. We have given advance notice now and we will be sticking to the date and time we have planned
[2017-05-01 10:21:51] rapidtrades : remove limits*
[2017-05-01 10:21:52] micmix : shapeshifter: yes, otherwise you wouldn't be able to long at all
[2017-05-01 10:22:04] podizzle3k : shapeshifter why do you think you are gonna lose money
[2017-05-01 10:22:09] rapidtrades : if MM have faith in their short, they can place asks like we place bids
[2017-05-01 10:22:12] BitMEX_John : shapeshifter: we will however be taking your feedback into consideration for similar events, we will make it clearer next time we list a contract like this one
[2017-05-01 10:22:19] shapeshifter : Q @BitMEX_John shady as fuck
[2017-05-01 10:22:24] rapidtrades : let the market decide based on last price like now
[2017-05-01 10:22:35] shapeshifter : I'll pull my money out
[2017-05-01 10:22:35] BitMEX_Arthur : Just so everyone is clear we will not be removing the limits before 2 May 12:00 UTC
[2017-05-01 10:22:43] biz : awe
[2017-05-01 10:22:43] rapidtrades : thanks
[2017-05-01 10:22:53] rapidtrades : what a stupid exchange
[2017-05-01 10:22:54] micmix : asks were put in place bc the limits wer announced, otherwise you wouldn't see any asks otherwise
[2017-05-01 10:23:07] shapeshifter : BitMEX_Arthur: well done, changing contract terms on the way
[2017-05-01 10:23:47] rapidtrades : enjoy dealing with 100s of complaints now...first u advertise GNO now u make it not trabable for humans
[2017-05-01 10:23:48] podizzle3k : shapeshifter: i dont think the contract said when the limits would be removed, simply that they would be removed
[2017-05-01 10:24:12] rapidtrades : luring ppl here again to get slaughtered by the market makers
[2017-05-01 10:24:22] shapeshifter : podizzle3k: no. It says clearly they will be removed once one gno is listed on a secondary exchange
[2017-05-01 10:24:26] shapeshifter : Go and read
[2017-05-01 10:24:33] podizzle3k : ok and that is still true
[2017-05-01 10:24:38] shapeshifter : Mm make money
[2017-05-01 10:24:54] shapeshifter : Prob exchange got a mm bot as well?
[2017-05-01 10:25:18] CBF : why would an exchange make sweets?
[2017-05-01 10:25:40] shapeshifter : Worried about covering liquidations, what the problem here?
[2017-05-01 10:26:13] rapidtrades : this exchange is not tradeable under whigh load, like we saw during multiple events like ETF
[2017-05-01 10:26:37] rapidtrades : this will be a disaster with everyone scrambling to exit/enter during the first few secs of every 2h period
[2017-05-01 10:26:43] rapidtrades : completely not fair decision
[2017-05-01 10:26:55] podizzle3k : as opposed to the books being cleared out
[2017-05-01 10:26:58] podizzle3k : not much better
[2017-05-01 10:27:23] shapeshifter : Then don't say you remove limits on launch
[2017-05-01 10:27:36] shapeshifter : Say before you keep limits for 6 hrs
[2017-05-01 10:27:47] shapeshifter : And people trade based on that
[2017-05-01 10:27:59] shapeshifter : YOU DON'T CHANGE RULES LAST MINUTE
[2017-05-01 10:28:21] shapeshifter : Totally fucked up
[2017-05-01 10:29:29] rapidtrades : well u can count my volume out, not gonna fight with bots to enter exit, im not a muppet
[2017-05-01 10:29:39] podizzle3k : haha
[2017-05-01 10:29:40] rapidtrades : once my trades ADL, im out
[2017-05-01 10:29:54] rapidtrades : have fun with ur stupid fake gno future
[2017-05-01 10:29:55] shapeshifter : They will not, you are limited
[2017-05-01 10:29:59] podizzle3k : shapeshifters bid is at .09 he just needs a bit more fud to fill
[2017-05-01 10:30:04] podizzle3k : so close
[2017-05-01 10:30:33] shapeshifter : Bitmex market maker bot has to make money somehow, right?
[2017-05-01 10:30:50] shapeshifter : podizzle3k: you're funny
[2017-05-01 10:30:59] Apocalyptic : shapeshifter: I don't think anyone is MMing GNO, there is no market to hedge afaik
[2017-05-01 10:31:22] shapeshifter : This request has gone privately by email to Bitmex before I came to the trollbox my friend
[2017-05-01 10:34:23] Farzad2 : /price
[2017-05-01 10:35:45] Farzad2 : /price
[2017-05-01 10:35:47] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1355.84 (0.00%) Bitfinex : 1453.90 (0.00%) OKCоin : 1316.00 (0.00%) itBit : 1350.00 (0.00%) Kraken : 1350.92 (0.00%) GDAX : 1400.12 (0.00%) SLQ : < 1 min```
[2017-05-01 10:36:04] Farzad2 : bot is back boyz :D
[2017-05-01 10:36:21] Farzad2 : /listmods
[2017-05-01 10:36:39] Farzad2 : /mod Farzad
[2017-05-01 10:38:01] Dynamix : fk the bots :)
[2017-05-01 10:38:26] Farzad2 : /joke
[2017-05-01 10:38:27] trollbot : ``` Whenever I get a stack of resumes, I throw half of them in the trash I sure don't want unlucky people on my team. Edit: thanks for the upvotes you guys!!```
[2017-05-01 10:39:05] mark121 : /sentiment
[2017-05-01 10:39:08] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 70.63 / 29.37 Daily : 45.97 / 54.03 Weekly : 47.17 / 52.83 Monthly : 46.36 / 53.64```
[2017-05-01 10:39:32] podizzle3k : we outnumber them 2:1
[2017-05-01 10:39:32] podizzle3k : !
[2017-05-01 10:39:39] podizzle3k : we must fight!
[2017-05-01 10:39:54] Farzad2 : 2K users, impressive
[2017-05-01 10:40:20] Farzad2 : /price
[2017-05-01 10:40:21] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1361.74 (0.00%) Bitfinex : 1452.00 (0.00%) OKCоin : 1316.00 (0.00%) itBit : 1350.00 (0.00%) Kraken : 1350.92 (0.00%) GDAX : 1400.32 (0.00%) SLQ : < 1 min```
[2017-05-01 10:40:40] Farzad2 : some exchnages have problem break 1350
[2017-05-01 10:40:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `FCTM17`: sell 81 @ 0.006280
[2017-05-01 10:42:35] thomaskikansha : we have like 9 sessions from GNO spot trading starts to 12UTC tomorrow
[2017-05-01 10:43:20] thomaskikansha : yet 2 hours is too long for a newly-traded coin
[2017-05-01 10:44:14] mdsmm : guys,
[2017-05-01 10:44:16] mdsmm : hey btw
[2017-05-01 10:44:40] mdsmm : what order do you guys always pick?
[2017-05-01 10:44:44] mdsmm : stop market etc
[2017-05-01 10:44:58] Tetsuo : most people order REKT
[2017-05-01 10:45:23] mdsmm : Tetsuo: haha, smart ass
[2017-05-01 10:45:51] mdsmm : because I don't have a lot of time the coming week :p actually i just want to move up my sell price every day (if it's in profit that is) to ensure my profitqs
[2017-05-01 10:46:22] Farzad2 : /rekt
[2017-05-01 10:46:22] trollbot : ``` No REKT highlights```
[2017-05-01 10:50:28] biz : GNO going to hit limit over and over till it catches up to spot price
[2017-05-01 10:51:02] rapidtrades : they know whats gonna happen
[2017-05-01 10:51:17] rapidtrades : dunno why they keep listing these things, its always a disaster
[2017-05-01 10:51:40] rapidtrades : if u can't commit to a fair and tradeable market then wait for launch, then list
[2017-05-01 10:51:49] rapidtrades : just cheap marketing stunt
[2017-05-01 10:52:07] Farzad2 : /price
[2017-05-01 10:52:11] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1357.07 (-0.34%) Bitfinex : 1453.00 (0.07%) OKCоin : 1317.01 (0.08%) itBit : 1355.00 (0.37%) Kraken : 1351.17 (0.02%) GDAX : 1398.71 (-0.11%) SLQ : 11 mins```
[2017-05-01 10:52:22] rapidtrades : they brought 2k ppl here so job well done i guess
[2017-05-01 10:52:23] Farzad2 : why is GDAX so high ?
[2017-05-01 10:52:51] mdsmm : chinese chat is insane
[2017-05-01 10:52:54] mdsmm : look at them rekts
[2017-05-01 10:54:36] Stilllight : What limit will it keep hitting
[2017-05-01 10:54:49] BitMEX_John : Stilllight: the risk limit
[2017-05-01 10:55:11] BitMEX_John : Stilllight: you can read more about it here https://www.bitmex.com/app/seriesGuide/GNO#Limit-Up--Down
[2017-05-01 10:55:14] Stilllight : will you be removing the limit
[2017-05-01 10:55:22] Stilllight : once gnosis launches on kraken / polo
[2017-05-01 10:55:33] BitMEX_John : Stilllight: once the index changes, at 12:00UTC May 2nd
[2017-05-01 10:55:51] BitMEX_John : Stilllight: details on that are here https://blog.bitmex.com/site_announcement/notice-regarding-gnosis-futures-contracts/
[2017-05-01 10:55:54] Farzad2 : BitMEX_John: Good job on putting the limit, this trash is already overpriced.
[2017-05-01 10:56:19] Farzad2 : will crash like hell soon
[2017-05-01 10:56:28] Farzad2 : just a hype coin
[2017-05-01 10:56:45] Farzad2 : a copy idea of Augur
[2017-05-01 10:57:16] Farzad2 : like how LTC was a copy of BTC and never suceeded
[2017-05-01 10:58:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHM17`: sell 29 @ 0.06124
[2017-05-01 11:00:12] rapidtrades : smone is long here and manipulating gdax to prop up his trade
[2017-05-01 11:00:18] rapidtrades : btce 1303
[2017-05-01 11:00:24] rapidtrades : all others 1350
[2017-05-01 11:00:31] rapidtrades : major scam going on right now
[2017-05-01 11:00:37] rapidtrades : I think we need limits
[2017-05-01 11:01:08] zqooN : lol
[2017-05-01 11:01:45] Stilllight : difficult to say gnosis is a copy of augur
[2017-05-01 11:02:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHM17`: sell 3 @ 0.06082
[2017-05-01 11:02:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHM17`: sell 30 @ 0.06099
[2017-05-01 11:02:04] Stilllight : Consensys is a big player and this is a very hyped ico
[2017-05-01 11:02:59] Farzad2 : /price
[2017-05-01 11:03:02] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1356.54 (-0.04%) Bitfinex : 1454.40 (0.10%) OKCоin : 1318.99 (0.15%) itBit : 1365.00 (0.74%) Kraken : 1355.06 (0.29%) GDAX : 1399.96 (0.09%) SLQ : 10 mins```
[2017-05-01 11:08:25] rapidtrades : he seems pretty desperate, buying $10 above index
[2017-05-01 11:09:07] rapidtrades : big rekts coming soon
[2017-05-01 11:10:55] Yakuza : test
[2017-05-01 11:12:02] zqooN : failed
[2017-05-01 11:14:47] alfaCharlie : rapid what can be the starting ask/bid on kraken ? any ideas
[2017-05-01 11:14:55] alfaCharlie : GNO
[2017-05-01 11:14:57] CBF : http://www.spacex.com/webcast mewn
[2017-05-01 11:15:00] brouk : rapidtrades: what if it is someone closing a hedge short?
[2017-05-01 11:15:43] alfaCharlie : CBF: awesome
[2017-05-01 11:16:04] rapidtrades : http://blog.kraken.com/post/160097978557/kraken-to-open-gnosis-gno-trading
[2017-05-01 11:16:19] rapidtrades : alfaCharlie: i think at least double whatever price we're trading at
[2017-05-01 11:16:32] rapidtrades : if we go by ZEC, it will be many times higher
[2017-05-01 11:17:15] alfaCharlie : k
[2017-05-01 11:17:25] rapidtrades : so kraken too will start trading shortly after tokens are released and we'll have both of them running by 18h UTC
[2017-05-01 11:17:40] rapidtrades : with enough tokens for sale
[2017-05-01 11:19:12] frog : rapidtrades: if price trades outside bitmex limit on exchange gno will basically be untradeable here?
[2017-05-01 11:19:22] rapidtrades : yes pretty much
[2017-05-01 11:19:29] Stilllight : well
[2017-05-01 11:19:34] Stilllight : it will be first come first served
[2017-05-01 11:19:38] rapidtrades : bots will get their shit filled in 1-2 secs every 2h window
[2017-05-01 11:19:46] frog : yeah
[2017-05-01 11:19:52] rapidtrades : rest fight over scraps if any is left
[2017-05-01 11:19:59] rapidtrades : it will be a joke
[2017-05-01 11:20:13] alfaCharlie : CBF: GNO launch will be similar kind of experience ;p great webcast, enjoyed it
[2017-05-01 11:20:15] mdsmm : do you use a bot? @rapidtrades
[2017-05-01 11:20:18] rapidtrades : they could at least disable the API to give everyone a fair shot
[2017-05-01 11:20:22] rapidtrades : mdsmm: no
[2017-05-01 11:21:11] frog : they should widen the limits, they can still have limit but just make wider maybe .15 to 2.5
[2017-05-01 11:21:33] frog : avoid any .01 bs
[2017-05-01 11:23:42] frog : maybe 2.5 a little high
[2017-05-01 11:28:00] Gabriel8 : Bitmex can't change the rules. What said is said, people have invested accordingly. 12:00 UCT May 2nd. If they change it will be many lawsuits from everyone who invested and lost (for whatever reason).
[2017-05-01 11:28:07] alfaCharlie : 5 hours 10 minutes remaining for kraken launch
[2017-05-01 11:31:08] frog : Gabriel8: sucks but true
[2017-05-01 11:31:24] CBF : ooo lawsuit mention already
[2017-05-01 11:32:30] Gabriel8 : No gain for bitmex to change, only possibility to create internal issues.
[2017-05-01 11:32:54] Tetsuo : BitMEX_Scam:!
[2017-05-01 11:36:30] rapidtrades : Gabriel8: shut up idiot, rules just got changed
[2017-05-01 11:36:53] rapidtrades : there are no rules unles u plan to sue anyway which u wont like 90% of crypto ppl
[2017-05-01 11:37:01] rapidtrades : so f*Ck u
[2017-05-01 11:37:56] CBF : 2 rules in crypto 1 admin say is final, 2 we reserverve the right to change rule 1
[2017-05-01 11:38:28] zqooN : 3 get Rekt
[2017-05-01 11:38:53] rapidtrades : before today they said gno will be marked to kraken on the day of launch now RULES CHANGED
[2017-05-01 11:39:02] rapidtrades : so which rule changed first? @Gabriel8
[2017-05-01 11:40:09] rapidtrades : anyway no point in arguing with these ppl, just trade whereever GNO is free to trade like polo or kraken
[2017-05-01 11:40:42] rapidtrades : or fight with bots for 2 secs every 2hrs and see how u do
[2017-05-01 11:41:33] Tetsuo : can i transfer my GNO from here to KRAKEN?
[2017-05-01 11:42:02] frog : they have given the advance notice, but i understand that saying limits will be removed once listed creates the impression that we will not be trading with limits in place after it has been listed.
[2017-05-01 11:42:13] frog : also only specifies listed not actual trading.
[2017-05-01 11:43:21] rapidtrades : well it is what it is
[2017-05-01 11:43:33] rapidtrades : if u want to trade the swings in gno, this is not the place
[2017-05-01 11:43:47] frog : they could have done it better
[2017-05-01 11:43:56] rapidtrades : im depositing to polo, wont be taking new trades here after my inevitable ADL
[2017-05-01 11:44:19] rapidtrades : it will be fastest bot wins, not trading anymore
[2017-05-01 11:44:45] frog : i think a lot of people will be ADL'd
[2017-05-01 11:45:12] zqooN : last time i fingered myself in before the bots, pure luck
[2017-05-01 11:46:09] ross : Xmr dump
[2017-05-01 11:46:25] frog : can you set stops outside the limit?
[2017-05-01 11:46:47] frog : should be as fast as bots
[2017-05-01 11:48:19] zqooN : frog: I'm not sure you can
[2017-05-01 11:48:40] frog : with trigger the order will only placed when trigger hit ie .01 above or below limit then order placed
[2017-05-01 11:48:43] rapidtrades : i would be very careful with trading GNO here from now onward, given the limits and my prvious ZEC experience
[2017-05-01 11:49:12] rapidtrades : they bailed out shorts back then and they could try to do it again so, trade at ur own risk
[2017-05-01 11:49:14] rapidtrades : brb
[2017-05-01 11:52:25] wurstgelee : shorting GNO here and now is wrong.
[2017-05-01 11:52:30] podizzle3k : rapidtrades i think this is where you http://i.imgur.com/zmbrt.gif
[2017-05-01 11:52:34] wurstgelee : thats all
[2017-05-01 11:52:50] wurstgelee : podizzle3k: ha
[2017-05-01 11:53:15] biz : ETC/BTC close to ATH
[2017-05-01 11:53:34] biz : 0.00638 ETC/BTC is the ATH and 0.00536 now
[2017-05-01 11:55:02] podizzle3k : [07:45] zqooN: last time i fingered myself in before the bots, pure luck
[2017-05-01 11:55:03] podizzle3k : gross
[2017-05-01 11:59:20] zqooN : podizzle3k: nothing a wet tissue couldn't handle
[2017-05-01 12:00:43] podizzle3k : yeah ihad no problem etting in before the bots either actually
[2017-05-01 12:01:11] ross : In b4 1400
[2017-05-01 12:05:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMRM17`: sell 11 @ 0.018456
[2017-05-01 12:06:34] aron : does bitmex use bitfinex?
[2017-05-01 12:07:38] podizzle3k : aron: it uses gdax(coinbase) & bitstamp
[2017-05-01 12:08:02] frog : rapidtrades: GL
[2017-05-01 12:08:07] thomaskikansha : 2k user count :o
[2017-05-01 12:08:26] mdsmm : when are they going to lis? in 5h?
[2017-05-01 12:08:38] frog : yeah
[2017-05-01 12:08:58] frog : evryone watching GNO
[2017-05-01 12:10:19] podizzle3k : gonna be good
[2017-05-01 12:10:55] podizzle3k : top two accounts have 50% of bought tokens
[2017-05-01 12:11:01] podizzle3k : and then the devs have the rest
[2017-05-01 12:11:15] kradiav : such a scam lal
[2017-05-01 12:11:41] podizzle3k : so its safe to assume kraken and polo have most the coins
[2017-05-01 12:11:45] podizzle3k : plebs got about 200k
[2017-05-01 12:12:10] podizzle3k : they will be happy tho i imagine if the exchanges decide to play some games
[2017-05-01 12:13:54] podizzle3k : 10x ico seems likely with the manipulation and big name players involved
[2017-05-01 12:15:55] rugu : question is whats the lowes price that GNO will start with
[2017-05-01 12:16:00] rugu : and which lucky guy gers to buy it
[2017-05-01 12:16:23] podizzle3k : rugu: kraken is opening the buy books first before the sell books
[2017-05-01 12:16:31] podizzle3k : so its gonna start super high
[2017-05-01 12:16:34] rugu : aw
[2017-05-01 12:16:35] podizzle3k : like outrageously high
[2017-05-01 12:16:43] rugu : whats bitmex rules about the upper cap?
[2017-05-01 12:16:47] podizzle3k : but im sure it will dump fast back to something reasonable
[2017-05-01 12:16:58] rugu : zcash took 2 weeks to become "reasonable"
[2017-05-01 12:21:50] kradiav : zcash didn't have an ICO, so dynamics are different
[2017-05-01 12:21:53] rapidgains : zcash mining structure created unsustainable expectations
[2017-05-01 12:21:56] Wings : It's getting slammed, zcash had a much lower supply at the beginning
[2017-05-01 12:22:33] rapidgains : besides the devs personal coins, the entire sold supply will be available
[2017-05-01 12:22:35] Wings : There are loads of people who will have the gnosis in their wallets from Kraken
[2017-05-01 12:23:08] rapidgains : i hope it gets capped for the first day
[2017-05-01 12:23:13] rapidgains : make a nice floor
[2017-05-01 12:24:00] Wings : Completely irrational ICO, I won't be trading it here though, far too much opportunity to manipulate
[2017-05-01 12:32:36] sleger : how long before gno lists on polo ?
[2017-05-01 12:32:40] loomdart : hello bitmex
[2017-05-01 12:32:50] BitMEX_John : sleger: they haven't announced an exact time as far as I know
[2017-05-01 12:32:58] BitMEX_John : loomdart: hey loomdart :)
[2017-05-01 12:33:05] loomdart : hey bitmex john
[2017-05-01 12:33:07] sleger : BitMEX_John: thank you
[2017-05-01 12:33:09] loomdart : cheers for answering my query earlier btw
[2017-05-01 12:33:22] rugu : sleger: 4 hrs 30-45min
[2017-05-01 12:33:40] sleger : rugu: they will announce it on twitter ?
[2017-05-01 12:34:12] wurstgelee : kraken will release the tokens @ 17:09:something utc iirc?
[2017-05-01 12:34:34] rugu : sleger: i guess, someone here had posted a link (cant find it) with a countdown
[2017-05-01 12:34:36] wurstgelee : polo will probably be ready by then i assume
[2017-05-01 12:34:39] loomdart : hey bitmex john can I get a cool bitmex logo next to my name
[2017-05-01 12:35:10] wurstgelee : oh look, all the pump indicators showing up
[2017-05-01 12:35:29] BitMEX_John : loomdart: haha maybe one day if you come work for us
[2017-05-01 12:35:31] sleger : rugu: its probably just a countdown to a week post ico
[2017-05-01 12:35:43] frog : gno tokens are being released directly to kraken accounts so should be trading there shortly after release, kraken will have buy side of order book up and running a few hours before
[2017-05-01 12:35:49] loomdart : no one can afford me ;)
[2017-05-01 12:35:54] wurstgelee : sleger: kraken's 17:09 utc is official
[2017-05-01 12:36:14] sleger : thanks
[2017-05-01 12:36:23] wurstgelee : i cba to search the link but it was some kraken url
[2017-05-01 12:37:30] sleger : its in my mailbox "Kraken is pleased to announce that trading for Gnosis (GNO) tokens will launch shortly after GNO tokens are released to ICO auction buyers on Monday May 1, 17:09:49 UTC. "
[2017-05-01 12:37:51] wurstgelee : thanks for confirmation of my blurry memories
[2017-05-01 12:38:10] rugu : so thats like 4hrs 30min from now
[2017-05-01 12:38:17] wurstgelee : yep
[2017-05-01 12:38:36] orly : BitMEX_John: would you consider implementing drag-to-scroll for the coin tab bar?
[2017-05-01 12:38:58] rapidgains : maybe a favorites feature