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<< >> English 中文 Русский 한국어 日本語 Español Français [2024-02-07 11:54:35] caex : BAM BAM BAM 40K lalal [2024-02-07 11:54:42] Fuun : wait. [2024-02-07 11:54:42] MrBritcoin : https://youtu.be/koTVfm31QUY?si=G1PvtJb7b2cpNpgG [2024-02-07 11:54:46] Fuun : :joy: [2024-02-07 11:54:50] caex : 😝 [2024-02-07 11:54:50] Fuun : :joy: [2024-02-07 11:55:11] Fuun : okay, u can move on, younglings. [2024-02-07 11:55:26] Fuun : just go deeper into each other, its cute. [2024-02-07 11:56:03] caex : some news from the crypto world [2024-02-07 11:57:06] MrBritcoin : been waiting for this to happen for years [2024-02-07 11:57:09] MrBritcoin : Indonesian Presidential Candidates Team Up With Saakuru Labs To Entice Voters With Blockchain Tech [2024-02-07 11:57:32] MrBritcoin : on the chain would be nice [2024-02-07 11:57:48] bnq : most gov wont like that, can't scam as easily [2024-02-07 11:58:03] MrBritcoin : bnq: exactly [2024-02-07 11:58:13] bnq : especially the US [2024-02-07 11:58:30] MrBritcoin : can go through it an check every vote [2024-02-07 11:58:36] bnq : not that voting has any effect on any decisions usa makes [2024-02-07 11:59:00] MrBritcoin : well i think thats a game changer [2024-02-07 11:59:08] MrBritcoin : for elections [2024-02-07 11:59:27] bnq : yes, wont changes the candidates tho, or the business that run the candidates [2024-02-07 11:59:42] MrBritcoin : no rigged no tampering if it dont line up it gets rejected vote [2024-02-07 12:00:03] MrBritcoin : awesome move [2024-02-07 12:00:40] MrBritcoin : an we as people should push hard for it to be the case in every country [2024-02-07 12:00:46] bnq : biden did this, trump did that, it's just a tv show, nothing to do with the politics run in the back [2024-02-07 12:01:23] jjhiijiji : are there any barbarians here that have not upgraded their as$ wiping routine to include wet wipes? [2024-02-07 12:02:10] jjhiijiji : good good i see you are all cultured civilized degens. [2024-02-07 12:02:36] bnq : the disconnect happens when, peopel think they vote for a government that cares about the people, when the governments first and only goal is to control the people [2024-02-07 12:03:57] MrBritcoin : bnq: they should govern the systern not the people [2024-02-07 12:04:10] bnq : system is the people [2024-02-07 12:04:41] bnq : it's all about made up boundaries, rules and countries, and bla bla, nothing is real [2024-02-07 12:04:44] MrBritcoin : we know they want full on control but we must not let them box every body up [2024-02-07 12:05:43] MrBritcoin : freedom is essential for growth [2024-02-07 12:05:59] bluemaster : https://twitter.com/naiivememe/status/1755169534934389202 [2024-02-07 12:06:48] bluemaster : I Am so old I remember when we had computers and keyboards [2024-02-07 12:06:48] thesecretsimplykj : so we basically forever stay here? around 43K? ok. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FvxZ2DuXsAI4FXP.jpg [2024-02-07 12:07:15] caex : The 2018 cryptocurrency crash (also known as the Bitcoin crash and the Great crypto crash) was the sell-off of most cryptocurrencies starting in January 2018. After an unprecedented boom in 2017, the price of Bitcoin fell by about 65% from 6 January to 6 February 2018. [2024-02-07 12:07:27] caex : ppl waiting😄 [2024-02-07 12:08:01] bnq : caex: just a normal bear market [2024-02-07 12:08:15] bnq : return to the mean [2024-02-07 12:08:29] bnq : only idiots, thaugth it was a crash [2024-02-07 12:08:34] MrBritcoin : caex: i wouldnt follow the past here things are now very different [2024-02-07 12:10:00] jjhiijiji : thesecretsimplykj: its over we ranging here forever. it was fun while it lasted [2024-02-07 12:10:20] bnq : bull market is just starting, (bull market started in 2022 when it bottomed out ) price boom is about to start, 200k is the next midterm high, then 500k. [2024-02-07 12:10:51] bnq : 70k is just a top, and wont be respected [2024-02-07 12:11:01] thesecretsimplykj : jjhiijiji: yeah, gonna close my accounts soon, was nice to meet ya guys. :pepe: [2024-02-07 12:11:40] bnq : 25-26 is going to be 1m [2024-02-07 12:11:50] jjhiijiji : MrBritcoin: ppl dont realize how much crypto fundamentals have changed from its early days to now. what its value is based on, its legal status, huge mining ops, where most volume comes from etc. its all a very different picture to how it was in its early days [2024-02-07 12:12:06] bnq : play the long game, and win big, or hustle and lose by fatigue [2024-02-07 12:12:31] jjhiijiji : you cant see btc patterns in 2017 and think they will somehow tell you whats going to happen today [2024-02-07 12:12:56] thesecretsimplykj : past performance is not indicativie of future results [2024-02-07 12:13:58] MrBritcoin : jjhiijiji: only 21million btc about [2024-02-07 12:14:14] jjhiijiji : anyway its sideways forever now we just go sideways pay fees till ur position dissappears and we all go home [2024-02-07 12:14:18] MrBritcoin : not much left kicking about [2024-02-07 12:14:22] bnq : thesecretsimplykj: you must have a hard time reading charts, it means, you just guess the color of the candle next [2024-02-07 12:14:40] Atlemos : This is crazy! where is Schmico?? [2024-02-07 12:14:44] jjhiijiji : thesecretsimplykj: dont listen to the astrology folks [2024-02-07 12:15:00] bnq : just wait for the drop, and then we pump, chill ppl... learn something [2024-02-07 12:15:04] Atlemos : doom [2024-02-07 12:15:05] laPanini : I believe that planets to exist. [2024-02-07 12:15:12] laPanini : do* [2024-02-07 12:15:13] jjhiijiji : thats astronomy mr lapanini [2024-02-07 12:15:21] jjhiijiji : check online astronomy vs astrology [2024-02-07 12:15:37] laPanini : astrology is that where they research star signs and stuff? [2024-02-07 12:15:56] thesecretsimplykj : bnq: I actually dont have a hard time reading charts, I actually have the same targets. You actually just guessed shit about me while I was not discrediting you. [2024-02-07 12:15:56] jjhiijiji : astronomy is a very real science. astrology is a pseudoscience based on supersticion [2024-02-07 12:16:35] bnq : well, you stated that the past is not a base for predictions [2024-02-07 12:16:48] bnq : or what did you mean by that [2024-02-07 12:17:43] bnq : ofc it's not a cope everything in the past and paste infront [2024-02-07 12:17:45] Atlemos : Wave counting and astrology is not aloud in Binance casino [2024-02-07 12:17:45] jjhiijiji : laPanini: and im not actually talking about astrology, bitcoin has nothing to do with astrology. its a joke that it is technical 'astrology' instead of technical analysis implying its similar to astrology, a lot of unempirical speculation about how to predict the future [2024-02-07 12:17:48] bnq : copy* [2024-02-07 12:17:50] Atlemos : door in 5 [2024-02-07 12:18:07] laPanini : jjhiijiji: i have heard that people actually long when its full moon sir. [2024-02-07 12:18:13] thesecretsimplykj : I stated that the past is not indicative for future results. Which is the literal number one rule you learn in institutional analysis. You can analyse the past and make guesses but there is no guarantee the past will repeat itself the same way. [2024-02-07 12:18:34] thesecretsimplykj : as by your target 1M btc 25/26 the past would not repeat itself and the pattern wopuld change [2024-02-07 12:18:36] jjhiijiji : laPanini: i long crescent moons when venus is at 47 degrees from its tip sir [2024-02-07 12:18:52] thesecretsimplykj : you clearly contradict yourself [2024-02-07 12:18:54] laPanini : jjhiijiji: sounds like a solid strategy, does it work sometimes? :pepe: [2024-02-07 12:19:03] jjhiijiji : laPanini: 50 - 50 [2024-02-07 12:19:06] jjhiijiji : pretty decent [2024-02-07 12:19:08] bnq : I don't understand how the "past" can be even represented as a subject, as it's what part of the past, or is there a repeating pattern, has the performance of the underlying value changed, or not, etc. it can't be a rule [2024-02-07 12:19:10] jjhiijiji : so it must be true [2024-02-07 12:19:12] laPanini : sounds like gambling to me though. [2024-02-07 12:19:17] laPanini : :pepe: [2024-02-07 12:19:22] jjhiijiji : nah , trust me. GUARANTEED [2024-02-07 12:19:29] jjhiijiji : lel [2024-02-07 12:19:38] bnq : it sounds cool, but actually tells nothing [2024-02-07 12:19:38] jjhiijiji : i sounded like the astrology peeps for a sec see [2024-02-07 12:20:02] bnq : thesecretsimplykj: what pattern would change for 25/26 [2024-02-07 12:20:07] bnq : which part [2024-02-07 12:20:12] bnq : btc 21m cap? [2024-02-07 12:20:21] bnq : inflow vs outflow, regulation? [2024-02-07 12:20:29] thesecretsimplykj : I am going to eat :) have a great day guys [2024-02-07 12:20:30] Joeyy132 : MrBritcoin: u muted me? [2024-02-07 12:20:31] bnq : exchange availability... [2024-02-07 12:20:42] jjhiijiji : thesecretsimplykj: enjoy [2024-02-07 12:20:46] thesecretsimplykj : jjhiijiji: <3 [2024-02-07 12:20:52] bnq : if none of the above, then it will repeat [2024-02-07 12:22:23] jjhiijiji : bnq: but market environment is changing. globally policies of central bank have shifts and things happen [2024-02-07 12:22:28] jjhiijiji : fundamentals change [2024-02-07 12:23:51] jjhiijiji : maybe there are some things with cycles in nature, with not nearly as many variables however, like seasons and moving around the sun. when it comes to the economy and bitcoin, there are so many variables and changes going on with policy shifts and how it moves with the larger overall market, that you cant just use a chart to predict bitcoin with such patterns [2024-02-07 12:26:29] jjhiijiji : you need to understand, even pros and policy makers in the fed and huge central banks try to shift policy accordingly with how they BELIEVE will affect the market, however even THEY are uncertain and know it is often unpredictable. let alone you, on trollbox, being able to predict the future with MUCH less data than them [2024-02-07 12:29:49] laPanini : well said. [2024-02-07 12:29:55] LickMyBulls : Screw all bs TA and drawing lines. Just pick a colour, red or green, push leverage to x100 and all in. Job done. [2024-02-07 12:30:35] jjhiijiji : thats why its so funny when people like joey make these oh so certain calls. people at the top with professional analysts with access to HUGE amounts of data and proper knowledge to analyse it, make guesses about 'probabilities' about how something might play out, but we have joey and others here who somehow thing they know more and can predict the market with certainty which is HILARIOUS. [2024-02-07 12:31:17] Joeyy132 : I’m 100x gambler [2024-02-07 12:31:24] jjhiijiji : yes, there is data in charts, yes you can use it to speculate and help time your entries and exits, but if you really believe you can predict the future with drawing diagonal liens and diamonds on a chart ur gravely mistaken [2024-02-07 12:31:24] Joeyy132 : i know nothing about trading [2024-02-07 12:31:27] Joeyy132 : 😆 [2024-02-07 12:31:57] Joeyy132 : /position xbtusdt SMD ``` :bitmex: XBTUSDT: 0.51 XBT @ 42555.631 ``` [2024-02-07 12:32:48] Joeyy132 : thesecretsimplykj: jjhiijiji knows fuck all talks nothing but shit and doesn’t pay his debts bro [2024-02-07 12:32:52] jjhiijiji : so for gods sake, stop pretending u can know the future, start being more reasonable and humble in ur predictions and analysis like some barbarian supersticious buffoons, and u will be a bit less likely to burn all ur account [2024-02-07 12:32:53] Joeyy132 : not worth the oxygen [2024-02-07 12:34:00] LickMyBulls : jjhiijiji: well said brother [2024-02-07 12:34:02] jjhiijiji : joey doesnt like me cause i speak the truth [2024-02-07 12:34:21] LickMyBulls : jjhiijiji: joey and britcoin both the same. So sure of themslves. [2024-02-07 12:34:22] jjhiijiji : he is defensive cause im destroying his illusion [2024-02-07 12:35:27] MrBritcoin : jjhiijiji: remember the days when millions was traded on bitmex an other exchanges ask your self why its not there no more [2024-02-07 12:35:29] jjhiijiji : LickMyBulls: yeah but britcoin doesnt seem like a bad guy he seems nice and with good intentions seems like a sweet person but i do find the charting a bit funny [2024-02-07 12:35:46] MrBritcoin : people have bagged it an stashed it [2024-02-07 12:36:46] jjhiijiji : LickMyBulls: but yeah exactly, you can always be certain that the certain ones dont know enough to know they cant be certain [2024-02-07 12:37:06] jjhiijiji : bnq also i think disreguards all the backgrounds real fundamentals and thinks it all comes down to patterns and sh!t [2024-02-07 12:37:14] LickMyBulls : Ypu can kever be certain especially in crypto which js hyper volatile [2024-02-07 12:37:31] LickMyBulls : Fuking tb on the phone is shit lulz. [2024-02-07 12:38:01] jjhiijiji : when you know you cant be certain you can apply proper risk management. i wont lie, i dont do this much on bitmex cause this is where i literally degen gamble with money i really dont mind losing. but for anyone seeriously trying to make a living out of this, they NEED to do that [2024-02-07 12:38:14] Dario2 : The Dunning–Kruger effect comes into mind :) [2024-02-07 12:39:18] bmagic : m00n incoming [2024-02-07 12:39:31] jjhiijiji : yeee baby lets go [2024-02-07 12:39:35] "it will be........" : Dunning Kruger is 100% the case for guys who are too sure of themselves here [2024-02-07 12:39:36] bmagic : closed my short [2024-02-07 12:39:38] jjhiijiji : wen fckin moooon [2024-02-07 12:39:47] Dario2 : "it will be........": exactly [2024-02-07 12:40:05] MrBritcoin : bmagic: welcome aboard [2024-02-07 12:40:27] MrBritcoin : /position xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: 500,000 USD @ 43079.6802 ``` [2024-02-07 12:40:31] jjhiijiji : im long but i really feel like im gonna blow my position today hahah [2024-02-07 12:40:37] psn : "it will be........": doubt is also dangerous, you are chopped to death, only useful doubt is low leverage [2024-02-07 12:41:09] jjhiijiji : psn: nerves of steel are useful in trading [2024-02-07 12:41:42] jjhiijiji : if ur getting chopped up then u might need to rethink stoploss strategy or how you go into a trade [2024-02-07 12:42:11] fcarvas : Are we finally breaking this fake 43.3k wall this time [2024-02-07 12:42:29] jjhiijiji : break it bebi [2024-02-07 12:42:34] MrBritcoin : jjhiijiji: iv built that trade from 200 bucks well under so thats where im @right now [2024-02-07 12:43:05] MrBritcoin : chad or chump lol [2024-02-07 12:43:15] Getr!ch : Traphouse welkom to my traphouse [2024-02-07 12:43:21] jjhiijiji : MrBritcoin: were in a similar trade but im playing with a lot less margin than u are. but i think im gonna get stopped out today tbh [2024-02-07 12:43:24] jjhiijiji : /position xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: 18,000 USD @ 42905 ``` [2024-02-07 12:44:00] jjhiijiji : i could just close it now and saec myself but fck it im just gonna let it run and whatever happens (this is NOT financial advice, im literally taking a gamble) [2024-02-07 12:44:36] hehe MOON : Not hard to make money in a bull market [2024-02-07 12:44:37] psn : jjhiijiji: strong belief is usefull in that sense, a trader said: “have stong opinions loosy held” meaning be confident but also be open to changeing your view if data accumulates against it, but not day trading short term info [2024-02-07 12:44:49] hehe MOON : BUY EVERY WEAK ASS DUMP, EZ [2024-02-07 12:45:08] Atlemos : hehe MOON: 😲 [2024-02-07 12:45:13] jjhiijiji : psn: yes strong belief in lets say what you decided. but not strong belief that you can KNOW what is happen. it is ur strong belief that you CANT know 100% what happens that lets u do proper risk management [2024-02-07 12:45:24] MrBritcoin : jjhiijiji: over ten thousand in the trade [2024-02-07 12:45:28] MrBritcoin : usd [2024-02-07 12:45:43] psn : jjhiijiji: sure [2024-02-07 12:47:13] MrBritcoin : so one shot in life im taking it [2024-02-07 12:47:25] MrBritcoin : by the balls [2024-02-07 12:47:48] jjhiijiji : psn: be certain in the sense that u shud try and not let emotion make u deviate from the plan [2024-02-07 12:48:02] jjhiijiji : psn: but definitely not be certain that ur trade will 100% go ur way lol in that case why even use stoploss [2024-02-07 12:48:08] MrBritcoin : https://youtu.be/B_3TlrZLpQ0?si=oFR7M9mZkDeI4xwd [2024-02-07 12:48:22] psn : jjhiijiji: Unshort or long now? [2024-02-07 12:48:51] bmagic : why is there traders risking 2.6 million on 30x leverage in Radix guild [2024-02-07 12:48:52] jjhiijiji : psn: im long but dont listen to me, im literally just a bit bored and want to gamble a little on high lev. [2024-02-07 12:48:57] psn : Why do i have a soldier in my handle [2024-02-07 12:49:32] jjhiijiji : probably ur account is a few years old [2024-02-07 12:49:32] psn : jjhiijiji: i think this is a clear long, but yes it can easily dump, anything is possible [2024-02-07 12:49:34] jjhiijiji : like a veteran [2024-02-07 12:49:52] jjhiijiji : psn: exactly :) good man [2024-02-07 12:50:08] psn : jjhiijiji: i am a veteran? [2024-02-07 12:50:14] jjhiijiji : type /since [2024-02-07 12:50:17] jjhiijiji : /since ``` :bitmex: jjhiijiji has been on BitMEX since Mar 2, 2018. ``` [2024-02-07 12:50:19] bmagic : psn: no - all in long - no chance of failure [2024-02-07 12:50:31] bmagic : just moon [2024-02-07 12:50:44] psn : /since ``` :bitmex: psn has been on BitMEX since Jan 30, 2018. ``` [2024-02-07 12:51:02] psn : jjhiijiji: ahah one month earlier [2024-02-07 12:51:02] jjhiijiji : i think if ur account is before a certain date (maybe admins can correct if im wrong) it shows that soldier veteran icon [2024-02-07 12:51:20] jjhiijiji : back in an hour [2024-02-07 12:51:36] ribben : /since ``` :bitmex: ribben has been on BitMEX since Jul 12, 2017. ``` [2024-02-07 12:51:47] Getr!ch : It time [2024-02-07 12:51:50] Getr!ch : Get readdy [2024-02-07 12:51:57] MrBritcoin : /since ``` :bitmex: MrBritcoin has been on BitMEX since May 15, 2019. ``` [2024-02-07 12:51:57] psn : ribben: where is you ww1 soldier? [2024-02-07 12:52:12] ribben : hehe [2024-02-07 12:52:18] MrBritcoin : im sure i was hear before aswel you know [2024-02-07 12:52:19] ribben : naaa... [2024-02-07 12:53:05] ribben : psn: from 1982... so naa... [2024-02-07 12:53:26] MrBritcoin : i was i was here 2018 [2024-02-07 12:53:42] MrBritcoin : september time [2024-02-07 12:53:58] migozelaaa : imagine 47k from here [2024-02-07 12:54:01] ribben : MrBritcoin: back then when there was huge buy or sell there was lag... alot of lag... [2024-02-07 12:54:16] ribben : MrBritcoin: so nice that not and issue anymore... [2024-02-07 12:54:22] psn : ribben: you were here in the end of crazy 2017 bull market [2024-02-07 12:54:31] MrBritcoin : ribben: lol yea the system ovload was nuts [2024-02-07 12:54:31] ribben : psn: yes [2024-02-07 12:54:51] ribben : psn: one day i lot 2 btc becuse of lag.. and stoplose didnt hit... [2024-02-07 12:55:13] MrBritcoin : ribben: it has happened but noty nearly as much [2024-02-07 12:55:22] gemeo2 : :btc: kept me up late and up early, muffa fakka, so today is pay back day :btc: [2024-02-07 12:55:41] MrBritcoin : :btc: [2024-02-07 12:55:59] gemeo2 : Fakk the ziggyzaggy shet less go, losin patience [2024-02-07 12:56:22] Ringox75 : /since ``` :bitmex: Ringox75 has been on BitMEX since Apr 16, 2018. ``` [2024-02-07 12:56:37] psn : ribben: lol i lost 1 btc in a minute because bought with one extra 0, was 80% leveraged and panic closer a few minutes later, unfurtunatley it moved against me, ahh the stupidity [2024-02-07 12:57:23] ribben : psn: was also crazy times back then... huge move up and down... not this sidehay sh.i.t [2024-02-07 12:57:38] gemeo2 : psn: thought that was impossible ... [2024-02-07 12:57:52] Joeyy132 : psn: yeah on my first week here I lost 4 btc getting to know the mechanics of placing orders [2024-02-07 12:57:57] migozelaaa : 47k from here [2024-02-07 12:57:59] Joeyy132 : 2016 times [2024-02-07 12:58:02] psn : @ribben much crazier [2024-02-07 12:58:29] psn : gemeo2: what? [2024-02-07 12:58:41] ribben : ? [2024-02-07 12:58:48] Gjergj : psn: we all have been there. I once marketed $200k Ripple position on here thinking it was $20k. Apparently I triggered a lot of liqs and stops and I was 0.3 BTC in profit(I thought holy fk, got greedy didn't close) only to get rekt a few secs later. Bots pushed the price up again and I was under water. Panic closed it and took 0.5 BTC loss lmfao [2024-02-07 12:59:13] "it will be........" : the PA is never going back to how it was then pre-KYC [2024-02-07 12:59:16] gemeo2 : psn: an order to buy above current price returns an error [2024-02-07 12:59:34] psn : Gjergj: yeah very similar to my experience [2024-02-07 12:59:47] "it will be........" : back then you could daytrade this, nowadays much more difficult [2024-02-07 13:00:06] Gjergj : There are many stories and that are a lot worse too. [2024-02-07 13:00:07] psn : gemeo2: no i mistaken the quantity, ordered 10x what i wanted [2024-02-07 13:00:17] gemeo2 : psn: ok I get it, dumb as [2024-02-07 13:00:46] gemeo2 : psn: think we all lost fortunes on here with typos [2024-02-07 13:00:53] Gjergj : you mean [2024-02-07 13:00:56] Gjergj : with typos without typos [2024-02-07 13:01:00] Gjergj : :kek: [2024-02-07 13:01:43] gemeo2 : PA is totally corrupted, corrections bigger than pumps for example [2024-02-07 13:02:16] Gjergj : bring back 2019 PA [2024-02-07 13:02:19] Gjergj : and 2020 [2024-02-07 13:02:21] Gjergj : crazy times [2024-02-07 13:02:27] gemeo2 : Retrace back to start and then moonshot ... wtf? [2024-02-07 13:02:49] psn : I also closed a big long in 2018 @ 3300 one hour before it statted pumping after helding it for a few days, it was the absolute bottom 😂 [2024-02-07 13:03:12] Gjergj : psn: i bought the 2019 bottom [2024-02-07 13:03:17] MrBritcoin : gemeo2: chiill out my little moon pie its fun [2024-02-07 13:03:30] Gjergj : only to get liqd later that summer [2024-02-07 13:03:35] gemeo2 : psn: it triggered by you and others closing, a setup [2024-02-07 13:03:36] Gjergj : :arthur: [2024-02-07 13:03:51] psn : I wonder what is the oldest position here on bitmex right now [2024-02-07 13:03:59] MrBritcoin : /position xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: 500,000 USD @ 43079.6802 ``` [2024-02-07 13:04:00] Gjergj : psn: bearmace [2024-02-07 13:04:04] Gjergj : still holding his 10k short [2024-02-07 13:04:05] Gjergj : lmfao [2024-02-07 13:04:14] Gjergj : guy got conviction [2024-02-07 13:04:14] gemeo2 : MrBritcoin: it is unpredictable, there is no safeish stop loss at the mo [2024-02-07 13:04:17] Gjergj : gotta give him that :arthur: [2024-02-07 13:04:28] psn : Gjergj: he maced himself [2024-02-07 13:04:34] Gjergj : lol [2024-02-07 13:04:40] Gjergj : thats what bears do [2024-02-07 13:04:49] MrBritcoin : gemeo2: up only [2024-02-07 13:04:53] gemeo2 : MrBritcoin: you getting very brave these days, is that a good thing or you getting reckless...? [2024-02-07 13:05:05] MrBritcoin : got smart [2024-02-07 13:05:32] MrBritcoin : gemeo2: an for many years iv just been playing [2024-02-07 13:05:35] MrBritcoin : not today [2024-02-07 13:05:36] psn : This setup looks like a pre pump [2024-02-07 13:05:45] gemeo2 : MrBritcoin: I also think shorts had their chance, I should know. Yet watch out cos retrace didn't tag the 0.382, fell short [2024-02-07 13:06:06] MrBritcoin : gemeo2: 45k to 47 k [2024-02-07 13:06:16] MrBritcoin : it going there fact [2024-02-07 13:06:18] gemeo2 : MrBritcoin: am often tempted to degen long but just not today [2024-02-07 13:07:22] MrBritcoin : gemeo2: iv plenty of margin an im comphy with it id not of slept with that open if i was not confident with move [2024-02-07 13:08:02] psn : MrBritcoin: you went to sleep with a 500k open position? [2024-02-07 13:08:10] psn : do you have stops? [2024-02-07 13:08:20] gemeo2 : MrBritcoin: extra margin up here is a mistake, cut losses.if you wrong [2024-02-07 13:08:24] bmagic : 500k on 1x leverage [2024-02-07 13:08:40] psn : You are loaded 😂 [2024-02-07 13:08:46] bmagic : don't you fkn know who you're talking to [2024-02-07 13:09:00] bmagic : MrBritcoin is actually Mr Bitcoin in disguise [2024-02-07 13:09:00] migozelaaa : bmagic: when short? [2024-02-07 13:09:01] gemeo2 : Sleeping with this that position and this PA iz lunacy [2024-02-07 13:09:11] bmagic : migozelaaa: i'm hoping after 50k [2024-02-07 13:09:19] MrBritcoin : gemeo2: brake out an ascending broadening wedge [2024-02-07 13:09:37] migozelaaa : bmagic: So now we agree on something. [2024-02-07 13:09:48] gemeo2 : MrBritcoin: man that is so kekki itz not true [2024-02-07 13:09:50] MrBritcoin : gemeo2: many folks are lost as to the play [2024-02-07 13:09:53] bmagic : what's there to disagree [2024-02-07 13:10:00] bmagic : the setup is 39k [2024-02-07 13:10:07] bmagic : the price action is infinite [2024-02-07 13:10:14] gemeo2 : MrBritcoin: watch out you not the new HUSKY, trade safu [2024-02-07 13:10:34] bmagic : Husky isn't a trader [2024-02-07 13:10:43] MrBritcoin : gemeo2: ok then provide input as to why not an id like to see your charts proving other wise please [2024-02-07 13:10:49] gemeo2 : MrBritcoin: algo gets a stiffy when it sees a position like that [2024-02-07 13:11:21] bmagic : he's a business man with deep pockets and good times ahead [2024-02-07 13:11:34] bmagic : degenerate gambler / lucky sonofabish [2024-02-07 13:11:38] MrBritcoin : gemeo2: confirmed https://prnt.sc/wkkPy5ntHXao [2024-02-07 13:11:47] bmagic : mufasa's papa [2024-02-07 13:12:01] gemeo2 : MrBritcoin: i can only say it's consolidated and RSI is low [2024-02-07 13:12:28] gemeo2 : UP is just a likely outcome [2024-02-07 13:12:30] MrBritcoin : gemeo2: well best get to work to tell me other wise then baba [2024-02-07 13:12:55] bmagic : gemeo2: extended periods of sideways action give RSI false positives - known fact - i don't disagree its up this time though. [2024-02-07 13:13:06] bmagic : just has nothing to do with RSI [2024-02-07 13:13:10] migozelaaa : 47k from here guys [2024-02-07 13:13:17] migozelaaa : then 60k [2024-02-07 13:13:30] jjhiijiji : migo u been saying that for days bro is this the day [2024-02-07 13:13:36] psn : migozelaaa: 🤞 [2024-02-07 13:13:42] jjhiijiji : i really hope so [2024-02-07 13:13:52] bmagic : i hope all the traders underwater are saved in a massive green wick [2024-02-07 13:14:02] bmagic : i see some traders 15k losses [2024-02-07 13:14:11] MrBritcoin : jjhiijiji: but hes right no rush on trying to move market when it is ready it will do the do [2024-02-07 13:14:18] bmagic : unrealised losses* [2024-02-07 13:14:51] bmagic : i actually think Ethereum is leading this rally [2024-02-07 13:15:03] BigLokka : I received an email for the marginPlus program but it gives 404 https://www.bitmex.com/app/marginPlus [2024-02-07 13:15:05] bmagic : Bitcoin can go sideways [2024-02-07 13:15:24] bmagic : BigLokka: thats because they sent it to you by mistake and locked you out of heaven [2024-02-07 13:15:31] bmagic : mine works perfectly. [2024-02-07 13:15:43] MrBritcoin : bmagic: eth is following btc a week or two behind thats all [2024-02-07 13:16:00] MrBritcoin : eth has no etf btc does [2024-02-07 13:16:31] MrBritcoin : hence why i say your best in btc as its going to move more as to eth will [2024-02-07 13:17:44] MrBritcoin : eth is just barely hold on to btc as btc pumps eth arm gets stretches further away [2024-02-07 13:17:59] jjhiijiji : we should get more volatility in an hour or so [2024-02-07 13:18:31] MrBritcoin : we just had a huge chop will be pamp for sure [2024-02-07 13:18:48] jjhiijiji : huge chop? [2024-02-07 13:19:06] jjhiijiji : wait u mean on the 5 min chart 'huge' chop? ;p [2024-02-07 13:19:12] Joeyy132 : Ez to have full conviction when you got Joey guaranteeing shit for u [2024-02-07 13:19:27] bmagic : Joeyy132: i always counter trade the Joey [2024-02-07 13:19:33] bmagic : so far massive losses [2024-02-07 13:19:36] Getr!ch : I see longers in my traphouse [2024-02-07 13:19:37] Joeyy132 : Oh dear u must be rent then [2024-02-07 13:19:39] "it will be........" : hahaha, funny fkers [2024-02-07 13:19:46] Joeyy132 : "it will be........": 😜 [2024-02-07 13:19:47] Getr!ch : Catch them like a mouse [2024-02-07 13:19:50] Getr!ch : With cheese [2024-02-07 13:19:55] Joeyy132 : I never counter it will be [2024-02-07 13:19:58] Joeyy132 : . [2024-02-07 13:20:03] MrBritcoin : jjhiijiji: there was a chop https://www.tradingview.com/x/njhRQfTd/ [2024-02-07 13:20:15] "it will be........" : Joeyy132: wise decision bro [2024-02-07 13:20:19] jjhiijiji : MrBritcoin: ah i remember that it was on FOMC day [2024-02-07 13:20:26] jjhiijiji : was here with u guys [2024-02-07 13:20:35] jjhiijiji : bnq was shouting long cause of his magic charts and it dumped [2024-02-07 13:20:36] Getr!ch : 41.5 [2024-02-07 13:20:44] Joeyy132 : "it will be........": you are one of my ultimate signals. I shall divulge no further [2024-02-07 13:20:56] Joeyy132 : Please never change haha [2024-02-07 13:21:28] MrBritcoin : jjhiijiji: every time i see a chop like that reminds me of a rocket sir [2024-02-07 13:21:43] "it will be........" : Joeyy132: lmfao glad to be of service [2024-02-07 13:22:00] MrBritcoin : 🚀🚀🚀 [2024-02-07 13:22:10] MrBritcoin : 😏 [2024-02-07 13:22:42] MrBritcoin : https://prnt.sc/Y7gAaEXrLWx5 [2024-02-07 13:24:17] MrBritcoin : :PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE: [2024-02-07 13:24:26] MrBritcoin : :PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE: [2024-02-07 13:24:32] MrBritcoin : :PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE: [2024-02-07 13:24:37] MrBritcoin : :PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE: [2024-02-07 13:24:41] MrBritcoin : :PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE: [2024-02-07 13:24:44] MrBritcoin : :PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE: [2024-02-07 13:24:48] MrBritcoin : :PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE: [2024-02-07 13:24:54] MrBritcoin : :PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE: [2024-02-07 13:24:58] MrBritcoin : :PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE: [2024-02-07 13:25:01] MrBritcoin : :PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE: [2024-02-07 13:25:08] MrBritcoin : :PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE: [2024-02-07 13:25:11] MrBritcoin : :PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE: [2024-02-07 13:25:16] MrBritcoin : :PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE: [2024-02-07 13:25:20] MrBritcoin : :PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE: [2024-02-07 13:25:24] MrBritcoin : :PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE: [2024-02-07 13:25:29] MrBritcoin : :PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE: [2024-02-07 13:25:33] MrBritcoin : :PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE: [2024-02-07 13:25:37] MrBritcoin : :PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE::PEPE: [2024-02-07 13:25:43] MrBritcoin : pepe power [2024-02-07 13:26:08] Hexagon : :catjam: [2024-02-07 13:27:18] thesecretsimplykj : just got invited to margin+ [2024-02-07 13:27:19] MrBritcoin : Hexagon: i always forget the cat hows it done sir dance cat ? [2024-02-07 13:27:20] thesecretsimplykj : lmao [2024-02-07 13:27:37] Hexagon : the cat be jammin' [2024-02-07 13:27:56] Hexagon : catjam [2024-02-07 13:28:09] MrBritcoin : thesecretsimplykj: yea an me ill look in to for sure at some point iv not gone two deep in to it [2024-02-07 13:28:30] MrBritcoin : but worth a read [2024-02-07 13:28:47] thesecretsimplykj : yeah just read about it, but Im not sure yet [2024-02-07 13:29:35] MrBritcoin : thesecretsimplykj: my thinking is there is never a free lunch sir [2024-02-07 13:30:18] fiyah : When moon? https://www.tradingview.com/x/E1t67EaQ/ [2024-02-07 13:30:34] thesecretsimplykj : MrBritcoin: exactly my thought, it will be restricted to some extend and I dont like that at all [2024-02-07 13:30:35] thesecretsimplykj : You’re in margin call for more than 12 hours; Your Minimum Balance ever drops below 110% of the collateral value. [2024-02-07 13:30:40] MrBritcoin : but still i need to read it they need to do a video about it on youtube explaining what its all about really if folks can see an understand it like me then may be there jump in [2024-02-07 13:30:55] thesecretsimplykj : fun part is, they use Joe as an example [2024-02-07 13:30:59] thesecretsimplykj : our joeyy [2024-02-07 13:30:59] thesecretsimplykj : Let’s say Joe applies for a Margin+ of 10,000 Tether (USDT). [2024-02-07 13:33:07] MrBritcoin : see if i can watch a video 3 times it sits in the mind an helps me get a feel for it first before i get to deep in to it the realising im being put in to a trap or some thing i no nothing about [2024-02-07 13:34:29] MrBritcoin : it could be beneficial im not sure iv not even looked at it just skimmed it [2024-02-07 13:34:51] Hexagon : I applied a small amount [2024-02-07 13:35:11] Suella : I did an oopsie [2024-02-07 13:35:15] MrBritcoin : Hexagon: so what is the score as your testing the water [2024-02-07 13:35:31] Suella : Got wet now I need plan b [2024-02-07 13:35:33] Hexagon : MrBritcoin: takes a few days [2024-02-07 13:35:41] kroleg666 : any Evergrande bulls? [2024-02-07 13:35:47] Suella : Hexagon: hexagon vagina [2024-02-07 13:35:51] MrBritcoin : to what @Hexagon [2024-02-07 13:36:25] Hexagon : MrBritcoin: to receive the amount you apply for [2024-02-07 13:36:53] MrBritcoin : Hexagon: so they give you funds an whats the deal with that [2024-02-07 13:37:10] MrBritcoin : in simple terms [2024-02-07 13:37:56] MrBritcoin : they charge you for borrowing it out of your bag what rate how long foe [2024-02-07 13:38:00] Hexagon : MrBritcoin: get funds, keep adv above 50k each month avoid fees, trade, win? [2024-02-07 13:38:03] bmagic : it would be cheaper and less risky to get a loan from the bank [2024-02-07 13:38:08] bmagic : sadly [2024-02-07 13:38:32] laPanini : i guess its like a bonus that you can only use to trade with, you keep the profits. [2024-02-07 13:38:45] bmagic : no such thing as a bonus that increases your risk [2024-02-07 13:39:41] laPanini : well, it stated they give you x for free to use in margin+, i refuse to belive they give it to me and then i can just withdraw it. :) [2024-02-07 13:40:13] laPanini : didnt really say I had to put in any of my own margin to risk it. [2024-02-07 13:41:54] laPanini : a lunch always tastes better when its free. [2024-02-07 13:42:17] laPanini : i didnt really understand the catch if there was one, or it was terribly communicated. [2024-02-07 13:42:27] MrBritcoin : hehe mini ABW https://www.tradingview.com/x/51XQl4gD/ [2024-02-07 13:42:49] MrBritcoin : like my big boi [2024-02-07 13:43:12] MrBritcoin : https://www.tradingview.com/x/kgaPyNeD/ [2024-02-07 13:43:44] MrBritcoin : when the pattern shows it happens many times [2024-02-07 13:43:56] MrBritcoin : all over the place [2024-02-07 13:44:07] MrBritcoin : pewpew pew pew [2024-02-07 13:44:35] ribben : hey you guys... where do we see that bitmex give us for limet orders fee ? [2024-02-07 13:44:40] MrBritcoin : by iv got house work todo [2024-02-07 13:45:12] Joeyy132 : ribben: In filled orders [2024-02-07 13:45:18] BTCcheers : pampeet btc [2024-02-07 13:45:19] Joeyy132 : you can see the fee for every order [2024-02-07 13:45:20] MrBritcoin : https://youtu.be/WUl9NPPMx8s?si=x0cXwdNtSYX3rzhP [2024-02-07 13:45:28] Joeyy132 : see “fills” tab @ribben [2024-02-07 13:47:05] jjhiijiji : ribben: i think to get guaranteed maker rebate you need to also tick Post-Only under the green button [2024-02-07 13:47:29] ribben : thanks guys [2024-02-07 13:47:31] jjhiijiji : are we finally pamping [2024-02-07 13:47:36] fiyah : breakout? [2024-02-07 13:48:11] jjhiijiji : volatility often starts coming in roughly half an hour before US market open ive noticed [2024-02-07 13:48:25] kroleg666 : any Evergrande HK.3333 bulls? [2024-02-07 13:48:34] migozelaaa : 47k from here [2024-02-07 13:48:35] jjhiijiji : hopefully we see some good movement soon [2024-02-07 13:48:43] migozelaaa : then 60k [2024-02-07 13:49:33] MrBritcoin : https://prnt.sc/NwMG9rMLAWGJ [2024-02-07 13:49:42] MrBritcoin : e flexin [2024-02-07 13:49:50] MrBritcoin : me [2024-02-07 13:50:55] MrBritcoin : https://youtu.be/zi5Xo_8juAY?si=7g5_uXGVm_GYPykD [2024-02-07 13:52:18] bmagic : I have some movement in my pants [2024-02-07 13:52:48] jjhiijiji : i also felt a tingle [2024-02-07 13:52:54] bmagic : :rocket: :snake: [2024-02-07 13:53:04] MrBritcoin : bmagic: pump the blood to brain sir better usages [2024-02-07 13:53:24] bmagic : Who needs a brain when you are long as fuck [2024-02-07 13:53:39] MrBritcoin : that is some wicked A.I graphics [2024-02-07 13:53:55] MrBritcoin : in that video [2024-02-07 13:54:09] jjhiijiji : if we top out in this area again im gonna get pissed [2024-02-07 13:54:20] jjhiijiji : (which is probably most likely scenario lol) [2024-02-07 13:54:36] MrBritcoin : needs to hold here [2024-02-07 13:54:51] MrBritcoin : we bounce here its game on [2024-02-07 13:56:30] MrBritcoin : bears going hungery today [2024-02-07 13:56:57] MrBritcoin : no fish in the river today [2024-02-07 13:57:12] kroleg666 : /position dogeusd lets go ``` :bitmex: DOGEUSD: 10 Cont @ 0.0787 ``` [2024-02-07 13:57:49] MrBritcoin : https://youtu.be/1ZxGtvpp49M?si=_MJkPAqZyb-oHH1o [2024-02-07 13:57:55] bmagic : /position ethusd ``` :bitmex: ETHUSD: 30 Cont @ 2357.75 ``` [2024-02-07 13:57:57] bmagic : /position xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: 2,500 USD @ 43110.5095 ``` [2024-02-07 13:58:27] MrBritcoin : /position xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: 500,000 USD @ 43079.6802 ``` [2024-02-07 13:59:06] migozelaaa : /position xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: 90,000 USD @ 42525.3238 ``` [2024-02-07 13:59:26] fiyah : Looking a little Apollo 13 [2024-02-07 14:00:40] MrBritcoin : fiyah: no sir clean take off [2024-02-07 14:00:58] fiyah : /position xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: 8,000 USD @ 42918.0865 ``` [2024-02-07 14:01:02] Crypto_Cowboy_1982 : 💥💥🚀✨💫 [2024-02-07 14:01:08] fiyah : /position xbtm24 ``` :bitmex: XBTM24: 14,000 USD @ 44067.4232 ``` [2024-02-07 14:01:39] fcarvas : Are pamping is this is another fake out [2024-02-07 14:01:48] LickMyBulls : Fukin pammp you boring cunts [2024-02-07 14:02:03] bmagic : lol i was like this shit ain't moving [2024-02-07 14:02:03] LickMyBulls : fcarvas: fake out number 42 [2024-02-07 14:02:08] bmagic : then realised i was looking at the daily candle [2024-02-07 14:02:37] bmagic : this is a clean long in my opinion [2024-02-07 14:03:02] bmagic : after a dirty sideways action [2024-02-07 14:03:04] bmagic : a clean long [2024-02-07 14:03:08] bmagic : always a big ass clean long [2024-02-07 14:03:25] MrBritcoin : bmagic: im with you all the way sir good chice i think myself [2024-02-07 14:03:49] fiyah : get ready to run the stops [2024-02-07 14:03:59] LickMyBulls : Ass to mouth [2024-02-07 14:04:26] LickMyBulls : 43.2keks rick solid resistance [2024-02-07 14:04:51] LickMyBulls : And rock solid [2024-02-07 14:04:55] laPanini : teh unbreakable invisible wall in the middle of nowhere. lol. [2024-02-07 14:05:44] fcarvas : LickMyBulls: titanium resistance omg [2024-02-07 14:06:00] migozelaaa : 44 today [2024-02-07 14:06:09] LickMyBulls : Rejected again 📉 [2024-02-07 14:06:13] fiyah : No volume yet [2024-02-07 14:06:27] MrBritcoin : man the video i posted has some trippy images in on a 65 inch screen its amazing 4k an all that would be way better in them new apple glasses [2024-02-07 14:06:39] MrBritcoin : i might get some for trading [2024-02-07 14:07:25] LickMyBulls : Only so many times it can get rejected before it dumps.... [2024-02-07 14:08:11] 7x7 : lets go 45K⬆️ [2024-02-07 14:08:53] migozelaaa : 7x7: 47k [2024-02-07 14:08:58] MrBritcoin : 47k https://prnt.sc/YbJYWZpIRBp9 [2024-02-07 14:10:12] MrBritcoin : got things to do now i must depart folks bye for now [2024-02-07 14:10:35] migozelaaa : MrBritcoin: bye sir [2024-02-07 14:11:18] Crypto_Cowboy_1982 : it's time [2024-02-07 14:11:24] Crypto_Cowboy_1982 : 💥💥🚀✨💫 [2024-02-07 14:11:51] LickMyBulls : Crypto_Cowboy_1982: not yet brother but soon hopefully... [2024-02-07 14:12:59] Hexagon : We’re are my bulls? :catjam: [2024-02-07 14:13:32] Crypto_Cowboy_1982 : at the rodeo [2024-02-07 14:14:51] fcarvas : Bulls out of money to pump this scam [2024-02-07 14:15:26] migozelaaa : LickMyBulls: lol dildo coming [2024-02-07 14:15:29] migozelaaa : 47k [2024-02-07 14:15:44] rxr : UP ONLY [2024-02-07 14:16:19] Crypto_Cowboy_1982 : fcarvas: hand over your cash [2024-02-07 14:16:24] Crypto_Cowboy_1982 : fund the pump [2024-02-07 14:16:53] fiyah : Someone sacrifice their long for the good of the rest of us. [2024-02-07 14:17:28] Pappa : Topped ouuttt! [2024-02-07 14:18:02] bmagic : Pappa: no such thing as a top [2024-02-07 14:18:14] bmagic : sky is limitless [2024-02-07 14:18:31] jjhiijiji : again topping out here [2024-02-07 14:18:35] jjhiijiji : come oooooon [2024-02-07 14:18:50] Pappa : No such thing as no such thing @bmagic [2024-02-07 14:18:54] Joeyy132 : Rejected again [2024-02-07 14:18:58] Joeyy132 : short it hard [2024-02-07 14:19:05] Crypto_Cowboy_1982 : sille beras [2024-02-07 14:19:27] Pappa : Dw walll street opens soon. Theyll take it to where it should be [2024-02-07 14:19:56] jjhiijiji : not AGAIN [2024-02-07 14:19:59] jjhiijiji : COME OOOON [2024-02-07 14:20:06] laPanini : lael, dw sirs. [2024-02-07 14:20:07] Crypto_Cowboy_1982 : jjhiijiji: patience [2024-02-07 14:20:19] laPanini : :rocket: today [2024-02-07 14:20:28] jjhiijiji : patience? whats that? ;< is it edible? [2024-02-07 14:20:39] laPanini : yes, you can eat it, digest it and poo it out. [2024-02-07 14:20:41] thesecretsimplykj : https://u.today/arthur-hayes-makes-epic-bitcoin-btc-price-prediction-1-million [2024-02-07 14:20:49] LickMyBulls : 43.2kek rock solid again. Not going to break it without 38keks first [2024-02-07 14:21:07] thesecretsimplykj : :arthur: Arthur "The Fucking" Hayes man [2024-02-07 14:21:16] laPanini : like clockwork it will bounce, again and again :rocket: [2024-02-07 14:21:29] jjhiijiji : fffsssssssss [2024-02-07 14:21:43] laPanini : so many frustrated bears shorting the new bottom and it just doesnt go down :rocket: