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[2017-05-01 08:26:10] aron : they charge too much fees
[2017-05-01 08:26:13] aron : 10-20%
[2017-05-01 08:26:58] aron : why is btc suddenly going up? normally it fluctuates between 1000 to 1200
[2017-05-01 08:27:02] shery : local bitcoin have too much feeses
[2017-05-01 08:27:47] aron : there has been literally no good news for btc
[2017-05-01 08:28:04] Ahhere : aron: cos it's a trustless decentralised form of internet money with a limited supply mainly.
[2017-05-01 08:28:16] aron : i guess
[2017-05-01 08:28:31] shery : aron: This pump seems a fakeout , would be down soon
[2017-05-01 08:28:37] aron : maybe cause of Trump's spending?
[2017-05-01 08:28:45] Ahhere : Sheryl knows
[2017-05-01 08:28:51] aron : shery what do u mean a fakeout?
[2017-05-01 08:29:00] aron : someone is buying it to increase its price?
[2017-05-01 08:29:35] Ahhere : Means it's only pretending to go up before it crashes
[2017-05-01 08:29:39] shery : aron: yeah, will dump Big soon hopefully
[2017-05-01 08:30:03] aron : ahhere my point was that it cant pretend to go up
[2017-05-01 08:30:14] Ahhere : Bitcoin tricky
[2017-05-01 08:30:17] aron : cause either someone is buying it for the purpose of a big dump
[2017-05-01 08:30:21] shery : aron: It could if whales want it do so
[2017-05-01 08:30:24] aron : "bitcoin tricky" lol
[2017-05-01 08:30:51] aron : or it could jump to 2000
[2017-05-01 08:30:58] aron : by the end of the year
[2017-05-01 08:31:36] shery : aron: Dont know whats the logic behind new year pump
[2017-05-01 08:32:48] aron : drunk spending
[2017-05-01 08:33:07] aron : it just means by the end of the year
[2017-05-01 08:33:28] aron : not saying it will be 1300 at december 30 and suddenly 2000 by 31
[2017-05-01 08:33:31] Ahhere : Few hundred million volume yesterday not including local bitcoins not really easy to do whale fakeouts
[2017-05-01 08:34:20] Ahhere : Aths everywhere it's up time news will report on ath prices for king btc then your mom buys some
[2017-05-01 08:35:40] zqooN : doubt my mom will
[2017-05-01 08:36:33] Ahhere : zqooN: she ETH fan?
[2017-05-01 08:36:41] zqooN : she dead
[2017-05-01 08:36:46] shery : Ahhere: watch out something like new year dump soon 1200-800 that was
[2017-05-01 08:38:04] Ahhere : zqooN: u sure she doesn't have a wallet tucked away somewhere
[2017-05-01 08:38:28] KyllingLolsson : shery: ?
[2017-05-01 08:38:32] zqooN : sadly yes I'm sure
[2017-05-01 08:38:34] KyllingLolsson : TYPO
[2017-05-01 08:38:40] KyllingLolsson : chinese new year?
[2017-05-01 08:38:55] Ahhere : shery: yeah maybe bottom of channel is a bit higher now.
[2017-05-01 08:39:10] shery : KyllingLolsson: yeah
[2017-05-01 08:39:40] KyllingLolsson : shery: why wud it dump?
[2017-05-01 08:40:03] Ahhere : KyllingLolsson: whas poppn guy u long still?
[2017-05-01 08:40:41] shery : KyllingLolsson: This pump and price doesnt make any sense would be down back soon
[2017-05-01 08:40:44] KyllingLolsson : Ahhere: not anymore... i honestly dont know anything ryt now
[2017-05-01 08:40:59] KyllingLolsson : shery: thats what i want to believe
[2017-05-01 08:41:08] KyllingLolsson : but.. getting insecure
[2017-05-01 08:41:15] Ahhere : Same lol gonna take a break and hodl I think
[2017-05-01 08:41:52] Ahhere : Keep my winnings in doge obviously.
[2017-05-01 08:42:03] aron : why in doge
[2017-05-01 08:44:09] Ahhere : Jk doge is a joke @aron how is your trading going you've been here a few months now
[2017-05-01 08:44:15] KyllingLolsson : Ahhere: whats up with u?
[2017-05-01 08:44:31] Ahhere : KyllingLolsson: ps4 and baby Einstein ftw
[2017-05-01 08:44:43] KyllingLolsson : noice :)
[2017-05-01 08:44:48] Ahhere : Gf hungover in bed
[2017-05-01 08:44:59] KyllingLolsson : thinking abt either playing MGS or reading national geographic
[2017-05-01 08:45:15] Ahhere : Classy dad lol
[2017-05-01 08:45:22] KyllingLolsson : :D
[2017-05-01 08:45:30] Ahhere : Natgeo obviously
[2017-05-01 08:45:31] KyllingLolsson : kid sleeping wit mom
[2017-05-01 08:45:42] KyllingLolsson : some alone time for an hourt
[2017-05-01 08:46:18] Ahhere : Alone time ftw. I remember when I got doom and couldn't play it with my kid around couldn't wait for 8pm
[2017-05-01 08:46:46] KyllingLolsson : :D
[2017-05-01 08:47:12] KyllingLolsson : i really see foward to the day my kid gets "sick" and wanna stay home from school and play video games instead
[2017-05-01 08:47:39] KyllingLolsson : i would say "its not good to lie!" and turn on the tv
[2017-05-01 08:47:51] Ahhere : My older guy is nearly 5 he's playing racing games pretty well
[2017-05-01 08:48:14] KyllingLolsson : gold!
[2017-05-01 08:48:17] Ahhere : Looking forward to street fighter 2 tournaments with my two dudes when they older
[2017-05-01 08:48:43] KyllingLolsson : !!!!
[2017-05-01 08:48:45] KyllingLolsson : tekken
[2017-05-01 08:48:50] KyllingLolsson : wow
[2017-05-01 08:49:12] Ahhere : And mortal combat when they like 15
[2017-05-01 08:49:21] KyllingLolsson : ahhhh
[2017-05-01 08:49:23] Ahhere : Rip their heads off quality family time
[2017-05-01 08:49:30] KyllingLolsson : hahaha ofc
[2017-05-01 08:49:58] veritas : /sentiment
[2017-05-01 08:50:19] micmix : Ahhere: you would want to start mortal kombat when they are 7-8 if you want them to be really good later
[2017-05-01 08:50:33] aron : Ahhere its not going too well
[2017-05-01 08:50:40] aron : i shorted around 1300
[2017-05-01 08:50:52] aron : hoping to see some sweet crash
[2017-05-01 08:50:58] Ahhere : micmix: just disable the death moves?
[2017-05-01 08:50:59] aron : with some sweet cash
[2017-05-01 08:51:20] KyllingLolsson : aron: hope so too
[2017-05-01 08:51:32] aron : i have mixed feelings
[2017-05-01 08:51:37] brouk : aron: do not short the bull market, unless you want to learn the hard way
[2017-05-01 08:51:37] micmix : Ahhere: yeah, enable when they are 9-10 or so
[2017-05-01 08:51:38] aron : the model shows that it can increase
[2017-05-01 08:51:59] Ahhere : How do you know so much about parenting thanks guy @micmix
[2017-05-01 08:52:01] aron : brouk u can short it if u have good leverage
[2017-05-01 08:52:08] aron : and be patient
[2017-05-01 08:52:15] micmix : Ahhere: I'm old lol
[2017-05-01 08:52:29] aron : brouk did u expect it to go to 1400?
[2017-05-01 08:52:51] brouk : aron: yes
[2017-05-01 08:52:57] brouk : aron: its a bull market
[2017-05-01 08:52:58] aron : why?
[2017-05-01 08:53:11] aron : yes but it fluctuates around 1000-1200
[2017-05-01 08:53:25] Ahhere : micmix: respect to the crypto elders
[2017-05-01 08:53:30] brouk : aron: trading fluctuations is gambling
[2017-05-01 08:53:44] KyllingLolsson : Ahhere: how old are u
[2017-05-01 08:53:47] KyllingLolsson : im 27
[2017-05-01 08:53:56] KyllingLolsson : ASL lol _d
[2017-05-01 08:53:59] KyllingLolsson : :D
[2017-05-01 08:54:03] aron : brouk what do u expect the price to be by next week?
[2017-05-01 08:54:28] Ahhere : In my thirties as David Brent would say @KyllingLolsson
[2017-05-01 08:54:49] brouk : aron: i think we might reach near 1500 then flash crash -10% or -20% shakeout then continue the ride above 1500
[2017-05-01 08:55:16] brouk : its too early for such a big shakeout right now imo
[2017-05-01 08:55:31] KyllingLolsson : this crypto world... anything can happen
[2017-05-01 08:57:33] brouk : aron: also, if you shorted @1300 and still holding thats real bad, you should cut loss earlier
[2017-05-01 08:57:45] aron : brouk i already sold all
[2017-05-01 08:57:52] aron : i made around 7$ loss
[2017-05-01 08:58:01] aron : i mean canceled all
[2017-05-01 08:58:01] brouk : thats fine then
[2017-05-01 08:59:01] aron : brouk i was thinking of buying 10k contracts at 10x leverage at 1396 and selling all at 1397
[2017-05-01 08:59:09] aron : wouldnt that be an easy 10$?
[2017-05-01 09:00:06] brouk : aron: thats gambling not trading
[2017-05-01 09:00:27] brouk : aron: 10K is quite a big position for a target +1$
[2017-05-01 09:00:42] aron : but its kind of a solid thing right
[2017-05-01 09:00:51] aron : surely it will go up a dollar
[2017-05-01 09:01:04] longbydefault : aron: try it out
[2017-05-01 09:01:04] longbydefault : aron: try it out... that's the way to know...
[2017-05-01 09:01:10] brouk : lol
[2017-05-01 09:01:32] brouk : maybe it will work out 5 or 6 times and then you lose it all with 1 trade
[2017-05-01 09:01:48] aron : do u know how much it would need to go down
[2017-05-01 09:01:52] aron : for me to lose it all?
[2017-05-01 09:02:10] aron : it would need to go down about 100 usd
[2017-05-01 09:02:14] aron : more than that
[2017-05-01 09:02:23] haxmb : aron: whats your collateral
[2017-05-01 09:02:25] thomaskikansha : market doesnt got that much liquidity for you to flip 10K like this
[2017-05-01 09:02:27] zqooN : didn't you ask the same yesterday?
[2017-05-01 09:02:29] haxmb : 1K ?
[2017-05-01 09:02:30] longbydefault : aron: he was talking about losing all your easy $10
[2017-05-01 09:03:00] longbydefault : aron: you can make $10 usd 5 days in a row... then lose 50 in the next
[2017-05-01 09:03:16] haxmb : nah mate, you'll only make money
[2017-05-01 09:03:19] longbydefault : with a 5usd drop
[2017-05-01 09:03:22] haxmb : because thats how the market works
[2017-05-01 09:03:27] haxmb : easy pickings if you ask me
[2017-05-01 09:03:37] haxmb : go get em tiger
[2017-05-01 09:03:42] haxmb : >_>
[2017-05-01 09:03:49] thomaskikansha : hold for a better reward
[2017-05-01 09:04:16] haxmb : risk/reward is completely fucked with a $1 target though
[2017-05-01 09:04:36] thomaskikansha : spread is much more than $1
[2017-05-01 09:04:42] thomaskikansha : for 10K
[2017-05-01 09:05:01] haxmb : go play MM if you wanna scalp
[2017-05-01 09:05:18] aron : im using a 10x leverage thomas
[2017-05-01 09:05:57] haxmb : get rekt boi
[2017-05-01 09:07:29] aron : i mean if i use 10x leverage the price would need to come down to 1240
[2017-05-01 09:07:33] aron : for me to liquidate
[2017-05-01 09:08:30] brouk : aron: thats very possible with bitcoin, i have seen -10% drop in 10 minutes
[2017-05-01 09:09:49] longbydefault : aron: try it out... there are no rules here
[2017-05-01 09:10:36] aron : brouk i would be okay if it doesnt work out 1% of the time
[2017-05-01 09:10:54] brouk : aron: ok good luck
[2017-05-01 09:11:13] Ahhere : aron: risk 1k to make 1 dollar that's not a great risk reward guy
[2017-05-01 09:11:15] longbydefault : 2000+ users
[2017-05-01 09:11:27] Ahhere : *10 dollars
[2017-05-01 09:11:45] aron : it is if i can do it 100 times
[2017-05-01 09:12:04] longbydefault : he won't do it...
[2017-05-01 09:12:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `XRPM17`: sell 22525 @ 0.00004577
[2017-05-01 09:12:19] Ahhere : Pretty sure even in his first year investing Warren buffet would have considered that a waste of time
[2017-05-01 09:12:34] aron : 10 dollars every day is a lot of money
[2017-05-01 09:13:10] KyllingLolsson : uld u guys do it
[2017-05-01 09:13:16] KyllingLolsson : so how would
[2017-05-01 09:13:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `DASHM17`: sell 1 @ 0.073661
[2017-05-01 09:13:41] aron : the only reason im not doing it is cause i fear that i would liquidate
[2017-05-01 09:13:43] zqooN : longbydefault: 2000 wow
[2017-05-01 09:13:51] Ahhere : 300 a month that's like enough to share a room with an ex con maybe @aron
[2017-05-01 09:14:08] aron : ahhere 3000 a year
[2017-05-01 09:14:18] aron : for doing basically nothing
[2017-05-01 09:14:27] longbydefault : zqooN: that's a lot right?
[2017-05-01 09:14:29] aron : im a uni student
[2017-05-01 09:14:43] aron : so im unemployed
[2017-05-01 09:14:43] zqooN : longbydefault: yup it is
[2017-05-01 09:15:00] Ahhere : Putting a trade on every day and risking your capital is not nothing
[2017-05-01 09:15:02] longbydefault : aron: no one is going to do it for you... just go ahead
[2017-05-01 09:15:13] longbydefault : anon: so much discussion...
[2017-05-01 09:15:33] aron : lol i wouldnt risk my capital without a discussion
[2017-05-01 09:15:57] longbydefault : aron: everyone else saying your strategy is nonense
[2017-05-01 09:15:59] longbydefault : what else do you need
[2017-05-01 09:16:00] aron : is there any way to copy traders on this site?
[2017-05-01 09:16:12] Ahhere : So if we discussed red or black for 2 days before playing roulette is it a better bet
[2017-05-01 09:16:19] aron : lol
[2017-05-01 09:16:50] longbydefault : aron: just lurk in the chat... and just copy traders you trust...
[2017-05-01 09:18:09] Zelo : there are no safe bets here
[2017-05-01 09:18:44] Zelo : the safest thing you can do is hodl your btc for the next few years
[2017-05-01 09:19:11] rapidgains : follow some twitter traders and use 100x leverage for max profit
[2017-05-01 09:19:20] rapidgains : good R/R
[2017-05-01 09:19:26] longbydefault : especially that wheelchair guy
[2017-05-01 09:19:32] Zelo : rapidgains: solid advice
[2017-05-01 09:19:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: sell 1124 @ 0.005240
[2017-05-01 09:20:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XRPM17`: sell 64 @ 0.00004553
[2017-05-01 09:22:42] Ahhere : We need some news articles greater fool supply is drying up.
[2017-05-01 09:23:22] KyllingLolsson : Ahhere: +1
[2017-05-01 09:23:48] KyllingLolsson : by the way.. nat geo, writing about cyborgs
[2017-05-01 09:24:14] KyllingLolsson : cool stuff. Imagine, connecting ur brain to a world database of knowledge
[2017-05-01 09:25:43] Ahhere : With ai that will be messed up. It will be like plugging a flashlight directly into a power station. Mentally ill cyborgs
[2017-05-01 09:26:10] KyllingLolsson : humanity needs an awakinening first
[2017-05-01 09:26:21] KyllingLolsson : do deal with the mental issues we have
[2017-05-01 09:26:33] KyllingLolsson : before real cool stuff can happen
[2017-05-01 09:26:56] KyllingLolsson : if we only were mentally stable... unstoppable
[2017-05-01 09:27:21] KyllingLolsson : bc, otherwise, wars wouyld kill us, or something like that
[2017-05-01 09:27:28] Ahhere : Where should I learn how to meditate yoga classes or what? @KyllingLolsson
[2017-05-01 09:27:43] KyllingLolsson : Ahhere: kind of
[2017-05-01 09:27:48] KyllingLolsson : yes
[2017-05-01 09:28:16] Ahhere : Might do some bikram get sweaty with the ladies
[2017-05-01 09:28:21] KyllingLolsson : hahaha
[2017-05-01 09:28:28] KyllingLolsson : bikram sauna
[2017-05-01 09:28:33] KyllingLolsson : wow
[2017-05-01 09:28:38] Ahhere : Naked bikram that's my jam
[2017-05-01 09:28:58] KyllingLolsson : *funky 70s music playing*
[2017-05-01 09:29:17] Ahhere : Lol
[2017-05-01 09:29:34] Ahhere : Giggety giggety
[2017-05-01 09:29:48] KyllingLolsson : hahah... i found the sickest porn pic
[2017-05-01 09:30:08] KyllingLolsson : http://www.funpic.hu/_files/pictures/original/84/22/42284.jpg
[2017-05-01 09:30:10] longbydefault : KyllingLolsson: what would you suggest for this awakening? some eckhart tolle
[2017-05-01 09:30:12] KyllingLolsson : NSFW
[2017-05-01 09:30:26] KyllingLolsson : longbydefault: him and others
[2017-05-01 09:30:31] KyllingLolsson : and own experiences
[2017-05-01 09:30:42] longbydefault : KyllingLolsson: im interested... i just found out sahdguru
[2017-05-01 09:31:15] longbydefault : KyllingLolsson: who are the ones you like?
[2017-05-01 09:31:18] KyllingLolsson : longbydefault: nice. buy eckhart tolles book or audio book,, or youtube him
[2017-05-01 09:31:26] KyllingLolsson : and ram dass
[2017-05-01 09:31:37] KyllingLolsson : and maharshi mahesh yogi
[2017-05-01 09:31:44] longbydefault : ok... read eckhart a long time ago... thanks for the suggestions
[2017-05-01 09:31:48] KyllingLolsson : cant spell his name tho
[2017-05-01 09:31:55] KyllingLolsson : ramana maharisi
[2017-05-01 09:32:24] KyllingLolsson : longbydefault: best thing u can ever do is to stay in the present moment
[2017-05-01 09:32:29] KyllingLolsson : thats all u ever have to do
[2017-05-01 09:32:32] KyllingLolsson : forever
[2017-05-01 09:32:59] KyllingLolsson : accept every feeling, even the worst ones
[2017-05-01 09:33:06] longbydefault : KyllingLolsson: so you would describe yourself as spiritual... that's great :D
[2017-05-01 09:33:10] KyllingLolsson : just stay with it as a friend
[2017-05-01 09:33:29] longbydefault : KyllingLolsson: thanks i will try to keep silent/still
[2017-05-01 09:33:39] KyllingLolsson : well, spiritual is a concept that can be misinterpreted but yes :P
[2017-05-01 09:33:45] 5bg : how will the gno liquation model change over. if polo sells first gno at 1 btc will index be used here straight away? will limits be kept at least for the first 10 mins?
[2017-05-01 09:34:22] KyllingLolsson : longbydefault: :)
[2017-05-01 09:34:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTM17`: sell 1500 @ 1390.9
[2017-05-01 09:34:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTM17`: sell 1576 @ 1388.0
[2017-05-01 09:34:32] KyllingLolsson : good to find another soulful person
[2017-05-01 09:34:37] BitMEX_John : 5bg: I will check with another member of the team, one moment
[2017-05-01 09:35:07] KyllingLolsson : wow june
[2017-05-01 09:35:44] longbydefault : anon is killing it with 10x short
[2017-05-01 09:36:05] aron : who?
[2017-05-01 09:36:11] aron : im not shorting
[2017-05-01 09:36:15] KyllingLolsson : damn
[2017-05-01 09:36:20] KyllingLolsson : u got out?
[2017-05-01 09:36:31] aron : ye :/
[2017-05-01 09:36:37] KyllingLolsson : fear...
[2017-05-01 09:36:45] KyllingLolsson : traders worst enemy
[2017-05-01 09:36:53] aron : i even expected it to crash :-/
[2017-05-01 09:37:01] KyllingLolsson : im also like u
[2017-05-01 09:37:20] aron : i should learn after watching the big short
[2017-05-01 09:37:22] KyllingLolsson : just go x1 and save up
[2017-05-01 09:37:25] aron : did u see the movie?
[2017-05-01 09:37:29] KyllingLolsson : noo :P
[2017-05-01 09:37:34] aron : what does going 1x do?
[2017-05-01 09:37:38] Zelo : best thing for my trading was to make a decision and then come back later in 3 hours XD
[2017-05-01 09:37:46] Ahhere : Zelo: this
[2017-05-01 09:37:57] KyllingLolsson : aron: just keep u safe
[2017-05-01 09:38:14] aron : but even 5x is safe
[2017-05-01 09:38:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTM17`: sell 11513 @ 1384.2
[2017-05-01 09:38:25] KyllingLolsson : yeah
[2017-05-01 09:38:36] KyllingLolsson : better to not win as much, as to lose
[2017-05-01 09:38:45] KyllingLolsson : gremmer
[2017-05-01 09:38:50] aron : kylling i expect the btc to be around 1800 by the end of the year
[2017-05-01 09:39:00] aron : should i just save till then?
[2017-05-01 09:39:06] aron : i mean buy at 1x
[2017-05-01 09:39:10] aron : at 1386
[2017-05-01 09:39:15] aron : wait till 1700
[2017-05-01 09:39:28] KyllingLolsson : u decide urself if u wanna short or long, but o low lev
[2017-05-01 09:39:46] KyllingLolsson : because, u trust the judgement in someone who might be wrong
[2017-05-01 09:40:02] aron : no i mean if im sure it will be around 1600+ by the end of the year
[2017-05-01 09:40:11] aron : i see no problem with going long
[2017-05-01 09:40:11] KyllingLolsson : i think it will crash
[2017-05-01 09:40:18] aron : i expect it to crash to 1000
[2017-05-01 09:40:20] aron : or 900
[2017-05-01 09:40:27] aron : but go back up to 1800
[2017-05-01 09:40:28] KyllingLolsson : if 900, then we in a bear market
[2017-05-01 09:40:34] aron : u nean 1800
[2017-05-01 09:40:38] KyllingLolsson : look at the GOX top
[2017-05-01 09:40:45] KyllingLolsson : patterns
[2017-05-01 09:40:47] KyllingLolsson : similar
[2017-05-01 09:40:56] KyllingLolsson : extreme volatility
[2017-05-01 09:41:02] KyllingLolsson : up and down
[2017-05-01 09:41:04] aron : kylling my point is do i care about the crash?
[2017-05-01 09:41:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 60439 @ 1373.0 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2017-05-01 09:41:07] REKT : :btc: :soon: :toilet:
[2017-05-01 09:41:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 100 @ 1373.2
[2017-05-01 09:41:12] Zelo : WOOOOW
[2017-05-01 09:41:14] KyllingLolsson : aron: i
[2017-05-01 09:41:19] KyllingLolsson : i'd gi short
[2017-05-01 09:41:34] KyllingLolsson : Zelo: thats othing!
[2017-05-01 09:41:36] KyllingLolsson : /rrekt
[2017-05-01 09:41:55] KyllingLolsson : the biggest i ever saw was 1 mil dollar
[2017-05-01 09:42:14] aron : serves the whales right for playing with us
[2017-05-01 09:42:16] KyllingLolsson : if i remember correctly
[2017-05-01 09:42:28] Ahhere : Ouch that's a bad day
[2017-05-01 09:43:11] Ahhere : Even at 33x that's still 30k
[2017-05-01 09:43:46] Ahhere : At 3x 333k whoops
[2017-05-01 09:44:24] KyllingLolsson : damn
[2017-05-01 09:44:33] KyllingLolsson : if u aint rich, u cant lose that much :D
[2017-05-01 09:44:47] KyllingLolsson : better not get rich
[2017-05-01 09:45:01] stf28 : KyllingLolsson: wrong, 60000 contracts @ 33x it's 1.5xbt margin
[2017-05-01 09:45:17] stf28 : Ahhere:
[2017-05-01 09:45:30] KyllingLolsson : omg i LOVE carrot juice
[2017-05-01 09:46:02] Ahhere : stf28: no talking about the 1 million contract long rekt @KyllingLolsson saw
[2017-05-01 09:46:21] KyllingLolsson : /rrekt
[2017-05-01 09:46:22] stf28 : ah ok yeah it hurts more ^^
[2017-05-01 09:46:35] KyllingLolsson : damn where is the top score
[2017-05-01 09:46:38] KyllingLolsson : /rekt
[2017-05-01 09:46:44] stf28 : bot banned
[2017-05-01 09:46:48] KyllingLolsson : what!
[2017-05-01 09:46:50] KyllingLolsson : hahah
[2017-05-01 09:46:52] stf28 : for our pleasure :)
[2017-05-01 09:46:58] KyllingLolsson : well
[2017-05-01 09:47:19] stf28 : seriously, make your own bot or pay me i'll do whatever you need :D
[2017-05-01 09:47:38] Ahhere : Can we just break 1400 already ffs
[2017-05-01 09:47:53] brouk : Ahhere: have patience
[2017-05-01 09:48:09] longbydefault : worst recorded in rrekt is around 880k
[2017-05-01 09:48:36] shapeshifter : BitMEX_John: in the gno contract you say limits will be removed when gno is listed. Why now the limits are removed only after 6 hours? This is totally unfair given people have bought in based on the contract you published.
[2017-05-01 09:48:43] Ahhere : Yes but it is from the time farzads bot was born @longbydefault
[2017-05-01 09:48:45] KyllingLolsson : at 10x thats 64 btc
[2017-05-01 09:48:59] longbydefault : yep i don't have any data before the bot
[2017-05-01 09:49:01] shapeshifter : You don't change the rules of the game when the ball is running
[2017-05-01 09:49:23] 5bg : shapeshifter: where is that info?
[2017-05-01 09:49:33] shapeshifter : Announcement
[2017-05-01 09:49:40] shapeshifter : Total bs
[2017-05-01 09:49:47] shapeshifter : Unbelievable
[2017-05-01 09:49:56] KyllingLolsson : wat
[2017-05-01 09:50:06] shapeshifter : Look at the announcement
[2017-05-01 09:50:09] REKT : The biggest REKT ever was (drumroll):
[2017-05-01 09:50:14] REKT : 2016-06-12T12:00:08.259Z Posted to chat: Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 1844171 @ 645.49 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire:
[2017-05-01 09:50:18] shapeshifter : Limits removed 2nd may
[2017-05-01 09:50:25] KyllingLolsson : wow!
[2017-05-01 09:50:27] KyllingLolsson : dat rekt
[2017-05-01 09:50:31] longbydefault : wow... haha 1.8M
[2017-05-01 09:50:52] 5bg : oh not until tomorrow limits removed, time to short away
[2017-05-01 09:50:55] BitMEX_John : shapeshifter: the limits are removed after the index is chenged to Polo
[2017-05-01 09:51:12] BitMEX_John : shapeshifter: could you please clarify what you meant by 6 hours?
[2017-05-01 09:51:28] aron : what does limits removed mean?
[2017-05-01 09:51:34] shapeshifter : Gno are released at 5pm
[2017-05-01 09:51:53] shapeshifter : Will you remove the limits then?
[2017-05-01 09:52:02] BitMEX_John : aron: the risk limits will be removed from the gno futures contracts
[2017-05-01 09:52:05] shapeshifter : Or at 12
[2017-05-01 09:52:13] BitMEX_John : shapeshifter: no, they will be removed when the index changes
[2017-05-01 09:52:13] zqooN : is REKT bored? with the sudden announcements?
[2017-05-01 09:52:26] aron : this wont affect xbt right?
[2017-05-01 09:52:28] BitMEX_John : shapeshifter: 12:00 UTC May 2nd
[2017-05-01 09:52:36] BitMEX_John : aron: no effect on XBT :)
[2017-05-01 09:52:41] aron : thankx
[2017-05-01 09:52:55] shapeshifter : In the contract you state limits will be removed when gno is listed
[2017-05-01 09:53:02] shapeshifter : Which is 5pm
[2017-05-01 09:53:04] JermiRoss : @BitMEX_John So at what time polo is adding GNO..??
[2017-05-01 09:53:10] aron : unless people buy xbt to drown in the sorrow of losing gno limits
[2017-05-01 09:53:29] BitMEX_John : JermiRoss: I don't believe they have confirmed that yet
[2017-05-01 09:53:37] shapeshifter : Polo will list at 5pm
[2017-05-01 09:53:44] shapeshifter : Kraken the same
[2017-05-01 09:54:02] BitMEX_John : shapeshifter: where did you come across this information?
[2017-05-01 09:54:13] REKT : REKT didn't get enough liquidations today @Noobz
[2017-05-01 09:54:25] shapeshifter : Mex should do as well, instead using an arbitrary date and time 6 hours after release
[2017-05-01 09:54:40] zqooN : REKT: I'm sorry to hear that
[2017-05-01 09:54:48] shapeshifter : Kraken official statement, you can check
[2017-05-01 09:55:05] REKT : REKT thinks tomorrow will be better
[2017-05-01 09:55:07] BitMEX_John : shapeshifter: I will pass your feedback onto the team
[2017-05-01 09:55:19] shapeshifter : Actually users will be allowed to bid before the release
[2017-05-01 09:55:28] shapeshifter : Ask will follow after release
[2017-05-01 09:55:36] BitMEX_John : shapeshifter: in the time period between GNO listing and us removing our limits the price will move to wherever it is trading on Polo
[2017-05-01 09:55:37] zqooN : REKT: Gnosis will bring you a glorious day
[2017-05-01 09:55:48] REKT : REKT is ready!
[2017-05-01 09:56:12] shapeshifter : How is it possible if I have an artificial limit at 25%
[2017-05-01 09:56:15] BitMEX_John : shapeshifter: this gives a more ordered way for people to exit their positions if they have to
[2017-05-01 09:56:24] Tetsuo : BitMEX_John: ZEC didn´t really follow Polo price for some weeks after it was listed there
[2017-05-01 09:56:32] BitMEX_John : shapeshifter: it will move in two hour chunks
[2017-05-01 09:56:51] shapeshifter : If price goes up 100% I can only sell to 25% up
[2017-05-01 09:57:07] shapeshifter : Ye in two hours everything can happen
[2017-05-01 09:57:15] shapeshifter : Look at zcash
[2017-05-01 09:57:17] zqooN : REKT: you should hand out these to all your willing followers
[2017-05-01 09:57:19] zqooN : https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/40/f9/b6/40f9b658b9b46160ce8b8dd415bdb106.jpg
[2017-05-01 09:57:37] BitMEX_John : shapeshifter: I understand your concern, I will pass your feedback onto the team and we will see how things go
[2017-05-01 09:57:53] shapeshifter : This is the second time people on here gets screwed by artificial limit you have put on
[2017-05-01 09:58:20] shapeshifter : I don't need you to pass concerns, I need you to remove the limits when gno is released
[2017-05-01 09:58:34] shapeshifter : AS PER YOUR CONTRACT
[2017-05-01 09:58:35] BitMEX_John : shapeshifter: I understand but if we had no limit people would argue the other way, that we have screwed them by not having limits
[2017-05-01 09:58:55] shapeshifter : You said in the contract you were removing them
[2017-05-01 09:59:19] BitMEX_John : shapeshifter: we are removing them, I am sorry if the contract led you to believe it would be immediate
[2017-05-01 09:59:22] shapeshifter : Now you change rule last minute
[2017-05-01 09:59:40] Farzad2 : /price
[2017-05-01 09:59:46] shapeshifter : You say limits are removed when first exchange list them
[2017-05-01 09:59:50] Farzad2 : wut ?
[2017-05-01 09:59:55] Farzad2 : /price
[2017-05-01 10:00:00] Farzad2 : :(
[2017-05-01 10:00:06] zqooN : Farzad2: today no price
[2017-05-01 10:00:07] BitMEX_John : shapeshifter: Poloniex still hasn't confirmed the exact time trading on GNO will go live, we chose the date and time we did to give people as much prior warning as possible
[2017-05-01 10:00:10] shapeshifter : Now artificial limits will contain any spike up
[2017-05-01 10:00:20] Farzad2 : who banned me
[2017-05-01 10:00:23] shapeshifter : Kraken has confirmed
[2017-05-01 10:00:44] shapeshifter : And you say in the contract after first exchange lists them
[2017-05-01 10:00:52] shapeshifter : People buy based on contracts
[2017-05-01 10:01:06] shapeshifter : Not based on you changing rules last minute
[2017-05-01 10:01:23] BitMEX_John : shapeshifter: as per the contract it says "Advance notice will be given."
[2017-05-01 10:01:34] shapeshifter : And read before that
[2017-05-01 10:02:14] zqooN : Farzad2: don't think you'rebanned
[2017-05-01 10:02:28] zqooN : bot crashed
[2017-05-01 10:02:34] BitMEX_John : shapeshifter: as I said before I'm sorry if we led you to believe it would happen immediately
[2017-05-01 10:02:35] Farzad2 : zqooN: I'm kidding, the server that was hosting the bot is expired
[2017-05-01 10:02:42] zqooN : lol ok
[2017-05-01 10:02:53] shapeshifter : LIMITS UP AND DOWN WILL BE REMOVED ONCE A GNO GETS LISTED ON A SECONDARY MARKET EXCHANGE
[2017-05-01 10:03:08] rapidtrades : This is wrong, with 25% limits there is NO WAY price will follow polo during launch
[2017-05-01 10:03:09] shapeshifter : You wrote this in your contract
[2017-05-01 10:03:22] rapidtrades : pretty much any coin launch has exprienced higher vol
[2017-05-01 10:03:29] shapeshifter : You need to deliver on what you promise
[2017-05-01 10:03:40] Farzad2 : dont worry guys, Gnosis is trash anyway
[2017-05-01 10:03:45] Farzad2 : will crash so hard soon
[2017-05-01 10:03:50] shapeshifter : Already screwed up with zcash
[2017-05-01 10:03:52] Farzad2 : a big scam
[2017-05-01 10:04:23] rapidtrades : right and LTC isn't scam? bought 2x on insider trading and keeps going up with empty blocks
[2017-05-01 10:04:26] shapeshifter : Worried about covering liquidation with your own money cause the engine is not good enough?
[2017-05-01 10:04:30] rapidtrades : get lost farzad its all a scam
[2017-05-01 10:04:52] shapeshifter : Then if that's not the case remove the limits fairly as per your contract
[2017-05-01 10:05:00] rapidtrades : only question is when ur coin will explode, not if
[2017-05-01 10:05:05] shapeshifter : This is so shady if you dont
[2017-05-01 10:05:39] Farzad2 : LTC will crash as well
[2017-05-01 10:06:09] shapeshifter : I really hope you fix this before release
[2017-05-01 10:06:11] rapidtrades : this gives very unfair advantage to bots, after launch GNO will not be trabeable here for regular folks
[2017-05-01 10:06:34] rapidtrades : all orders will get executed within 1-2 after limits reset
[2017-05-01 10:06:37] shapeshifter : I won't trust having money on an exchange where rules change last minute
[2017-05-01 10:06:44] rapidtrades : ppl could get locked out for hours
[2017-05-01 10:06:47] shapeshifter : After you have money in the game
[2017-05-01 10:07:06] rapidtrades : I meant 1-2 seconds after limits reset
[2017-05-01 10:07:48] aron : why do i have a realised PNL in my XBTM17?
[2017-05-01 10:07:49] shapeshifter : Limits will be there for 2 hrs
[2017-05-01 10:08:04] aron : i thought futures didnt have that
[2017-05-01 10:08:31] Sultan Pepper : aron: m/t fees
[2017-05-01 10:08:35] BitMEX_John : aron: when you enter the position you pay a fee
[2017-05-01 10:09:16] aron : oh ok
[2017-05-01 10:09:58] shapeshifter : BitMEX_John: will we have reply why you changed the contract terms on GNO then?
[2017-05-01 10:10:03] rapidtrades : these 2k ppl came mainly for GNO and now they will have to sit and watch bots ake their money
[2017-05-01 10:10:08] rapidtrades : not cool
[2017-05-01 10:10:09] shapeshifter : Few hours before release?
[2017-05-01 10:10:48] BitMEX_John : shapeshifter: as I said before I have passed your feedback onto the team, I am sorry you are not happy with the way we have handled this
[2017-05-01 10:11:08] BitMEX_John : rapidtrades: I understand, I will pass on your feedback too
[2017-05-01 10:11:27] shapeshifter : BitMEX_John: and what's the reply instead passing feedback but not having a reply back?
[2017-05-01 10:12:03] rapidtrades : BitMEX_John: thanks john
[2017-05-01 10:12:21] shapeshifter : BitMEX_John: when you change contract terms you should have a reason for this. Can we know which one is it?
[2017-05-01 10:13:00] shapeshifter : BitMEX_John: ppl will be happy when gnosis shoots up on the line and we are stuck at 25% limit.
[2017-05-01 10:13:13] BitMEX_John : shapeshifter: respectfully, we are going in circles here, the contract specifies that once GNO is listed on a spot exchange we will remove the risk limits and advance notice will be given
[2017-05-01 10:13:47] BitMEX_John : shapeshifter: it is my understanding that we did not intend to imply that we would remove them immediately, hence why the contract mentions advanced notice
[2017-05-01 10:14:03] rapidtrades : if u commit to listing a futures BEFORE its on exchanges then you have to be okay with the volatility during launch....25% will not be enough, 25% is not enough for cryptos like ETH and LTC lately
[2017-05-01 10:14:09] shapeshifter : BitMEX_John: no read your contract. You say you remove limits once one gnosis is listed. And the advance is given for that
[2017-05-01 10:14:30] shapeshifter : Read the contract
[2017-05-01 10:14:57] shapeshifter : What is the problem to remove them on launch time then?
[2017-05-01 10:15:15] BitMEX_John : shapeshifter: I understand hoe you have interpreted it like that, so I can pass this onto the team can you please show me where Kraken has announced the exact time it will list?
[2017-05-01 10:15:26] rapidtrades : or you can disable the GNO API to put everyone on the same playing field? @BitMEX_John
[2017-05-01 10:15:29] BitMEX_John : how*
[2017-05-01 10:15:33] rapidtrades : until u remove the limits?
[2017-05-01 10:15:41] shapeshifter : I will forward you the email
[2017-05-01 10:15:50] BitMEX_John : shapeshifter: john@bitmex.com
[2017-05-01 10:15:51] zqooN : BitMEX_John: http://blog.kraken.com/post/160097978557/kraken-to-open-gnosis-gno-trading
[2017-05-01 10:16:13] shapeshifter : Launch time is announced officially by gnosis team too
[2017-05-01 10:16:17] podizzle3k : the problem with that is that polo has not commited to that time
[2017-05-01 10:16:28] podizzle3k : and bitmex is using polo as leader
[2017-05-01 10:17:22] podizzle3k : maybe they have i dont recall seing a specif time tho
[2017-05-01 10:17:45] shapeshifter : Exactly 17.01 utc time, it's in that blog
[2017-05-01 10:18:10] shapeshifter : So you have official information now to remove the limits at that time?
[2017-05-01 10:19:04] BitMEX_John : podizzle3k: they haven't issued a specific time yet
[2017-05-01 10:19:18] shapeshifter : They don't say polo in the contract
[2017-05-01 10:19:38] shapeshifter : It says 17.01 more specific than that?
[2017-05-01 10:19:44] zqooN : _Kraken is pleased to announce that trading for Gnosis (GNO) tokens will launch shortly after GNO tokens are **released** to ICO auction buyers on **Monday May 1, 17:09:49 UTC**. Order books will be enabled sometime **in the few hours before tokens are released** and traders can start placing buy orders at that time_
[2017-05-01 10:19:48] BitMEX_John : shapeshifter: no, we have made our announcement on when we will remove the risk limits and traders are preparing for that now so we will not change it
[2017-05-01 10:19:50] shapeshifter : It even says bids will be allowed before
[2017-05-01 10:20:03] BitMEX_John : shapeshifter: I was referring to Poloniex
[2017-05-01 10:20:28] shapeshifter : On the contract it does not say polo, it says the first one
[2017-05-01 10:20:36] micmix : BitMEX_John: don't remove the limits before announced time, you don't want first 0.0001 GNO trade liquidate all MMs here
[2017-05-01 10:20:42] shapeshifter : And polo will list to right of the bat too
[2017-05-01 10:21:09] rapidtrades : micmix: f*Ck off
[2017-05-01 10:21:17] podizzle3k : actually the notice says the time from listing to circuits being removed will be used to determine the most liquid exchange
[2017-05-01 10:21:22] podizzle3k : so thats probably the reason
[2017-05-01 10:21:31] shapeshifter : So people should lose money because artificial limits while polo and kraken have none?? @micmix
[2017-05-01 10:21:41] rapidtrades : remove listing, don't mark to polo until its launched over there
[2017-05-01 10:21:42] CBF : wots a circuit
[2017-05-01 10:21:47] BitMEX_John : shapeshifter: you have misinterpreted our intention in the contract, as I said before we intended to give advance notice. We have given advance notice now and we will be sticking to the date and time we have planned
[2017-05-01 10:21:51] rapidtrades : remove limits*
[2017-05-01 10:21:52] micmix : shapeshifter: yes, otherwise you wouldn't be able to long at all
[2017-05-01 10:22:04] podizzle3k : shapeshifter why do you think you are gonna lose money
[2017-05-01 10:22:09] rapidtrades : if MM have faith in their short, they can place asks like we place bids
[2017-05-01 10:22:12] BitMEX_John : shapeshifter: we will however be taking your feedback into consideration for similar events, we will make it clearer next time we list a contract like this one
[2017-05-01 10:22:19] shapeshifter : Q @BitMEX_John shady as fuck
[2017-05-01 10:22:24] rapidtrades : let the market decide based on last price like now
[2017-05-01 10:22:35] shapeshifter : I'll pull my money out
[2017-05-01 10:22:35] BitMEX_Arthur : Just so everyone is clear we will not be removing the limits before 2 May 12:00 UTC
[2017-05-01 10:22:43] biz : awe
[2017-05-01 10:22:43] rapidtrades : thanks
[2017-05-01 10:22:53] rapidtrades : what a stupid exchange
[2017-05-01 10:22:54] micmix : asks were put in place bc the limits wer announced, otherwise you wouldn't see any asks otherwise
[2017-05-01 10:23:07] shapeshifter : BitMEX_Arthur: well done, changing contract terms on the way
[2017-05-01 10:23:47] rapidtrades : enjoy dealing with 100s of complaints now...first u advertise GNO now u make it not trabable for humans
[2017-05-01 10:23:48] podizzle3k : shapeshifter: i dont think the contract said when the limits would be removed, simply that they would be removed
[2017-05-01 10:24:12] rapidtrades : luring ppl here again to get slaughtered by the market makers
[2017-05-01 10:24:22] shapeshifter : podizzle3k: no. It says clearly they will be removed once one gno is listed on a secondary exchange
[2017-05-01 10:24:26] shapeshifter : Go and read
[2017-05-01 10:24:33] podizzle3k : ok and that is still true
[2017-05-01 10:24:38] shapeshifter : Mm make money
[2017-05-01 10:24:54] shapeshifter : Prob exchange got a mm bot as well?
[2017-05-01 10:25:18] CBF : why would an exchange make sweets?
[2017-05-01 10:25:40] shapeshifter : Worried about covering liquidations, what the problem here?