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[2017-05-01 06:18:24] Ahhere : rapidtrades: that's gnot fair
[2017-05-01 06:18:33] mark121 : ya its total gnon-sense
[2017-05-01 06:18:36] rugu : rapidtrades: basically another 10-11 hrs for the polo launch right?
[2017-05-01 06:18:52] baxterman : mark121: if its capped here. When Zcash launched, it was capped here at 10. alot of people got screwed, while polo hit 3200 lol
[2017-05-01 06:19:29] mark121 : ya i figured lol
[2017-05-01 06:19:44] mark121 : but lets b honest
[2017-05-01 06:19:49] mark121 : where wud they get that btc from?
[2017-05-01 06:19:55] mark121 : bitmex would go under
[2017-05-01 06:20:00] mark121 : in 10 mins.
[2017-05-01 06:20:01] mark121 : lol
[2017-05-01 06:20:04] baxterman : lol
[2017-05-01 06:20:12] mark121 : and what MM would take that deal
[2017-05-01 06:20:33] baxterman : well, if people who had contracts could sell higher, they would have. and people would have bought the higher orders
[2017-05-01 06:20:33] mark121 : id sooner burn my house down than MM gnosis with no cap
[2017-05-01 06:20:46] baxterman : but people bought to 10, and sellers couldn't put anything higher
[2017-05-01 06:21:24] mark121 : it sto fast tho
[2017-05-01 06:22:00] mark121 : erm.. scratch that -
[2017-05-01 06:22:18] mark121 : not sure how that would work out with insane 1000000% in 2 mins growth lol
[2017-05-01 06:22:22] pasa : rapidtrades: While margin comes to 1x will I be ADL?What should I do Higher/lower the leverage ?
[2017-05-01 06:23:35] mark121 : mayb im overtired but wud it even be possible to do so
[2017-05-01 06:23:53] mark121 : as thered be no time to trade majority of the rally
[2017-05-01 06:24:10] mark121 : all of a suden plongs are in profits 1000 ofbtc's
[2017-05-01 06:24:18] mark121 : plongs lol
[2017-05-01 06:24:42] Ahhere : Lol
[2017-05-01 06:25:10] Ahhere : Are you long or short?
[2017-05-01 06:25:14] Ahhere : I'm plong
[2017-05-01 06:25:26] rapidtrades : great so instead of a great trading day we get a day filled with frustration as bots execute their shit limit up/down and the rest of us are stuck
[2017-05-01 06:25:47] rapidtrades : 25% is way too low for any coin launch, its bullshit to keep it
[2017-05-01 06:25:49] rugu : rapidtrades: write a bot for us
[2017-05-01 06:25:56] mark121 : rapidtrades: but how cud it be possible
[2017-05-01 06:26:02] mark121 : lkike what i was sayig
[2017-05-01 06:26:17] mark121 : what MM would take that?
[2017-05-01 06:26:41] Ahhere : How pissed will @nutella be @rapidtrades
[2017-05-01 06:26:58] mark121 : not as pissed as hazelnut trees!
[2017-05-01 06:27:06] mark121 : oh no i di-nt
[2017-05-01 06:27:22] Ahhere : That boy done lost he mind
[2017-05-01 06:27:40] mark121 : lol
[2017-05-01 06:27:47] mark121 : a real lol
[2017-05-01 06:28:07] mark121 : but only after i read it 3 times without reaction
[2017-05-01 06:28:35] rapidtrades : great so polo opens we'll be insta lokced limit up on the fomo, then locked down on the domo
[2017-05-01 06:28:39] mark121 : i said it outloud in a sassy ethnic (im being PC) ceo voice
[2017-05-01 06:29:00] mark121 : u kno of domo?
[2017-05-01 06:29:12] Ahhere : mark121: lol and Morgan Freeman speed
[2017-05-01 06:29:19] mark121 : http://i1.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/000/055/domo_kun.jpg
[2017-05-01 06:29:19] rapidtrades : there's no limit up for f2pool insider trading in litecoin tho
[2017-05-01 06:29:36] rapidtrades : insider get everything executed and make up the rules in this shit market
[2017-05-01 06:29:46] mark121 : welcome to markets :p
[2017-05-01 06:29:52] Ahhere : rapidtrades: invented the phrase domo @mark121
[2017-05-01 06:30:37] Ahhere : Fuk my baby just sneezed on me sick
[2017-05-01 06:30:55] mark121 : so i dont get sick often , twice in 5 years
[2017-05-01 06:31:05] mark121 : both times days after being around wifies nephew
[2017-05-01 06:31:05] atlanta : Whats up mark
[2017-05-01 06:31:13] atlanta : did you make a fortune off that alt long ?
[2017-05-01 06:31:19] mark121 : ;)
[2017-05-01 06:31:41] atlanta : You short now?
[2017-05-01 06:31:55] mark121 : no
[2017-05-01 06:32:08] atlanta : you didnt close yet?
[2017-05-01 06:32:15] mark121 : neutral in eth
[2017-05-01 06:32:34] mark121 : with a massive stop buy set
[2017-05-01 06:32:50] mark121 : incase it does a fomo wick to .1
[2017-05-01 06:33:27] atlanta : Would be incredible if we continued this
[2017-05-01 06:33:35] atlanta : I doubt it, but i also doubted at 78 usd
[2017-05-01 06:33:38] mark121 : actualy yea im long on my longer TF accounts
[2017-05-01 06:34:02] mark121 : but my day to day i neutral with the sotp buy set
[2017-05-01 06:34:08] atlanta : i'm gonna exit ETH now until something happens. Expecting correction.
[2017-05-01 06:34:35] mark121 : jus remember that a fomo flash run to .1
[2017-05-01 06:34:39] mark121 : is possible anymoment
[2017-05-01 06:34:57] mark121 : if btc dips for real - make sure u in
[2017-05-01 06:34:59] investor : ETC i new millionaires!!
[2017-05-01 06:35:17] atlanta : You suggest i leave my position long for now?
[2017-05-01 06:35:28] mark121 : i dont tthink u have much downside risk
[2017-05-01 06:35:37] mark121 : for a day or so
[2017-05-01 06:35:41] mark121 : let me confirm
[2017-05-01 06:35:45] mark121 : sec
[2017-05-01 06:35:59] investor : atlanta: yes, im long sin .0022
[2017-05-01 06:36:02] investor : wtc
[2017-05-01 06:36:06] investor : wtc
[2017-05-01 06:36:10] investor : etc
[2017-05-01 06:36:26] mark121 : all that and he wasnt replying to u :(
[2017-05-01 06:36:34] rugu : investor: how long ago was that?
[2017-05-01 06:36:52] mark121 : 1.5 months or less
[2017-05-01 06:36:55] atlanta : ETC is a joke though
[2017-05-01 06:36:59] atlanta : ETC != ethereum
[2017-05-01 06:37:10] pasa : investor: I'm long too:)
[2017-05-01 06:37:31] investor : rugu: was last week until settlements i baught back then makin over 100$ for every 7c rise
[2017-05-01 06:37:48] rugu : hmm I am looking for a good entry position right now
[2017-05-01 06:37:59] pasa : atlanta: I think eth is a bigger joke than etc
[2017-05-01 06:38:01] rugu : probably wait for a small dip
[2017-05-01 06:38:22] atlanta : Alright
[2017-05-01 06:38:26] mark121 : one of my bt ccharts dipped like 30 bucks jus now lol
[2017-05-01 06:38:44] mark121 : strange it wasnt relfected here
[2017-05-01 06:39:05] investor : rugu: i posted in bitcointalk about these upcoming rises no1 believe me , wait until u see the really big 1 ;)
[2017-05-01 06:39:08] mark121 : .. seconds later, insta rekt :p
[2017-05-01 06:39:14] Trade : mighta been BTCe
[2017-05-01 06:39:54] mark121 : ya its nothing
[2017-05-01 06:40:03] mark121 : its just a touchback
[2017-05-01 06:40:32] pasa : investor: What rice will go full long :)
[2017-05-01 06:41:15] Trade : ALT/BTC rallies on hold until BTC reverses
[2017-05-01 06:41:29] atlanta : Mark, hitting u up on TV
[2017-05-01 06:41:37] mark121 : my doctor is gfoing to love me
[2017-05-01 06:41:43] mark121 : i give him investing tips
[2017-05-01 06:41:57] mark121 : and he didnt listen to me about btc1st time
[2017-05-01 06:42:07] mark121 : (to buy at 600 last yr)
[2017-05-01 06:42:19] mark121 : so he went huge on this run
[2017-05-01 06:42:22] pasa : Trade: So while BTC reverses ALT go down also ?
[2017-05-01 06:43:13] frog : Kraken is pleased to announce that trading for Gnosis (GNO) tokens will launch shortly after GNO tokens are released to ICO auction buyers on Monday May 1, 17:09:49 UTC. Order books will be enabled sometime in the few hours before tokens are released and traders can start placing buy orders at that time (traders can place sell orders once they have a GNO balance).
[2017-05-01 06:43:17] frog : Earlier, Kraken partnered with the Gnosis team to allow auction buyers to purchase GNO directly through the Kraken platform. These buyers will have their GNO deposited directly to their Kraken accounts when tokens are released and can begin trading at that time
[2017-05-01 06:43:22] mark121 : if i have a cold i expect him to write infinite fentrany patch script
[2017-05-01 06:43:32] mark121 : fentanyl *
[2017-05-01 06:43:50] mark121 : without hesistation
[2017-05-01 06:44:31] aron : what do u guys think of the xbt price
[2017-05-01 06:44:37] aron : isnt 1392 too high?
[2017-05-01 06:45:00] Trade : see if you can hang in until 12noon if price holds
[2017-05-01 06:45:05] mark121 : il refer u to my charts aron
[2017-05-01 06:45:09] mark121 : atlanta: kk sec
[2017-05-01 06:45:44] mark121 : https://www.tradingview.com/chart/BTCUSD/XNLxlgCI-Bitcoin-BTCUSD-2017-Pricing-Model-Conservative-Outlook/
[2017-05-01 06:45:46] mark121 : @aron
[2017-05-01 06:45:56] KingTuna : DASh galloping back
[2017-05-01 06:46:00] mark121 : yep
[2017-05-01 06:46:05] mark121 : was bout to say same thing
[2017-05-01 06:46:23] mark121 : cept its usnng ETH market cap to do so
[2017-05-01 06:46:34] mark121 : lol :p
[2017-05-01 06:46:36] KingTuna : Yup
[2017-05-01 06:46:41] KingTuna : And I am holding both
[2017-05-01 06:46:55] rugu : what seems better, dash or eth
[2017-05-01 06:47:01] mark121 : jus remmeber if eth doesnt do the fomo wick
[2017-05-01 06:47:05] rugu : im closing a position soon and can buy only 1
[2017-05-01 06:47:15] mark121 : its slow downtrend for little while
[2017-05-01 06:47:22] aron : mark121 how did u make that chart
[2017-05-01 06:48:00] KingTuna : It'll be fine big boy. Tranquillo
[2017-05-01 06:48:06] mark121 : huh
[2017-05-01 06:48:18] aron : when did u make it?
[2017-05-01 06:48:18] KingTuna : Isn't that Spanish for calm/relax?
[2017-05-01 06:48:19] aron : today?
[2017-05-01 06:48:20] mark121 : aron: that wasnt u
[2017-05-01 06:48:22] mark121 : to u
[2017-05-01 06:48:29] mark121 : aron: dec '16
[2017-05-01 06:48:41] mark121 : aron: using techncical analysis only
[2017-05-01 06:48:54] Trade : Dash and ETH not looking great to me on charts at moment
[2017-05-01 06:49:05] mark121 : dash is
[2017-05-01 06:49:11] mark121 : and eth cud fomo wicik
[2017-05-01 06:49:44] aron : mark121 it shows 1392 on may, so did you predict that or is it by its own?
[2017-05-01 06:50:03] mark121 : b4 u hit play on the chart
[2017-05-01 06:50:07] mark121 : thats my prediction
[2017-05-01 06:50:15] mark121 : the chart as i saw it in december
[2017-05-01 06:50:23] mark121 : after, u see what happened since
[2017-05-01 06:50:42] aron : mark121 how much money u made?
[2017-05-01 06:50:42] mark121 : the deviation was deliberate btw
[2017-05-01 06:51:08] mark121 : honestly its obscene
[2017-05-01 06:51:16] KingTuna : Mark how much money in your bank account?
[2017-05-01 06:51:22] KingTuna : What is your net worth?
[2017-05-01 06:51:23] mark121 : lol :
[2017-05-01 06:51:27] mark121 : xactly
[2017-05-01 06:51:36] aron : i meant percentage wise
[2017-05-01 06:51:39] aron : like ROI
[2017-05-01 06:51:50] KingTuna : How many girls have you banged?
[2017-05-01 06:51:54] mark121 : its also nutty lol
[2017-05-01 06:51:55] aron : not many
[2017-05-01 06:51:56] mark121 : that to
[2017-05-01 06:52:00] aron : im a virgin
[2017-05-01 06:52:13] aron : my net worth is 0$+
[2017-05-01 06:52:26] aron : hoping to hit 10$ soon
[2017-05-01 06:53:12] Kalman : /joke
[2017-05-01 06:53:13] mark121 : aron: once u get over serious money amts, its best to be discrete
[2017-05-01 06:53:35] rugu : like once you hit your $10 goal :D
[2017-05-01 06:53:38] mark121 : or maybe its best to always be discrete
[2017-05-01 06:53:44] mark121 : lol :(
[2017-05-01 06:53:49] mark121 : :)*
[2017-05-01 06:54:16] pasa : mark121: What is your point of view on still rising altcoins price will it last long ?
[2017-05-01 06:54:27] aron : mark121 it shows 1500+ as the price that should have been prevailing today
[2017-05-01 06:54:33] KingTuna : 4-5 weeks
[2017-05-01 06:54:33] aron : is that right or did i read it wrong
[2017-05-01 06:54:33] rugu : guys I am coming up with an ethereum based ICO
[2017-05-01 06:54:44] mark121 : KingTuna: where d o u get that from lol
[2017-05-01 06:54:50] KingTuna : Intel
[2017-05-01 06:54:55] mark121 : aron: its a weekly chart
[2017-05-01 06:55:02] KingTuna : A special model someone has showed me
[2017-05-01 06:55:08] aron : weekly? it shows full years
[2017-05-01 06:55:08] mark121 : think we jus started a new candle
[2017-05-01 06:55:14] mark121 : KingTuna: aka me
[2017-05-01 06:55:16] mark121 : :P
[2017-05-01 06:55:19] KingTuna : Nope
[2017-05-01 06:55:21] KingTuna : different
[2017-05-01 06:55:25] mark121 : lol
[2017-05-01 06:55:31] KingTuna : Serious
[2017-05-01 06:55:52] mark121 : well u sawmy chart first
[2017-05-01 06:56:05] mark121 : b4 u started talking that way :p
[2017-05-01 06:56:20] aron : mark121 do u have any more charts?
[2017-05-01 06:56:26] KingTuna : I am not an expert, but this guy is incredibly accurate. I been making bank
[2017-05-01 06:56:39] KingTuna : Has his own model
[2017-05-01 06:56:46] mark121 : lol
[2017-05-01 06:56:50] aron : how is 1500+ accurate?
[2017-05-01 06:57:01] mark121 : its a weekly chart
[2017-05-01 06:57:10] aron : ohh so u mean by the end of this week
[2017-05-01 06:57:13] rugu : means interval is 1 week
[2017-05-01 06:57:15] mark121 : so we have 6 days i think
[2017-05-01 06:57:15] aron : it will reach 1500
[2017-05-01 06:57:17] mark121 : to reahc iut
[2017-05-01 06:57:18] aron : lol
[2017-05-01 06:57:30] mark121 : i think by luck new candle started last 24 hrs if i recall
[2017-05-01 06:57:34] mark121 : some random comment
[2017-05-01 06:57:42] mark121 : aron: sure sec
[2017-05-01 06:59:52] mark121 : https://www.tradingview.com/chart/BTCUSD/4EG3VxFf-BITCOIN-BTC-Another-faster-path-to-glory-Could-it-be/
[2017-05-01 07:00:20] aron : lol thats a joke right
[2017-05-01 07:00:30] mark121 : https://www.tradingview.com/chart/BTCUSD/MV1Uo47S-BITCOIN-BTC-XBT-THE-PATH-TO-VICTORY-MOON-GLORY-OR-BUST/ (this chart wasnt about exact PT's as i stated during its creation
[2017-05-01 07:00:47] mark121 : my titles?\
[2017-05-01 07:01:04] aron : thats a serious chart?
[2017-05-01 07:01:13] mark121 : which
[2017-05-01 07:01:32] aron : the last 2 u sent
[2017-05-01 07:01:43] mark121 : explain
[2017-05-01 07:01:51] mark121 : they are real charts
[2017-05-01 07:01:54] mark121 : lol
[2017-05-01 07:02:05] aron : well it has the moon in it so i figured
[2017-05-01 07:02:22] mark121 : the titles are the text are written with sarcasism
[2017-05-01 07:02:28] mark121 : and the*
[2017-05-01 07:02:30] aron : lol ye
[2017-05-01 07:02:35] mark121 : haha gotcha
[2017-05-01 07:03:09] aron : lol
[2017-05-01 07:03:13] mark121 : same iwth moon
[2017-05-01 07:03:17] mark121 : but thats rare
[2017-05-01 07:03:20] mark121 : for my charts
[2017-05-01 07:03:22] mark121 : :p
[2017-05-01 07:03:47] mark121 : thats cus it was form over substance
[2017-05-01 07:03:55] mark121 : lol
[2017-05-01 07:04:07] mark121 : i dont take myself to seriously asu can tell
[2017-05-01 07:04:48] mark121 : i worked/work with elitists and boring , insecure, uninteresting folks so this is how i refuel
[2017-05-01 07:05:57] Sagitus : Hey guys, when you leverage a trade do you get charged a daily fee on this exchange ?
[2017-05-01 07:06:06] mark121 : ex accountant turned market psychologist turned analyst :p
[2017-05-01 07:07:03] mark121 : markets*
[2017-05-01 07:07:30] mark121 : turned full-time trader who works from home 4 days a week
[2017-05-01 07:07:51] mark121 : sometimes 3
[2017-05-01 07:08:12] Trade : Sagitus: counterparty pays funding. BitMEX doesn't profit from it. Depends who pays, Long or Short depending on complex formula
[2017-05-01 07:08:50] aron : mark121 according to your charts what should be the price 12 hours from now?
[2017-05-01 07:08:52] Sagitus : hi but i don't have to pay anything to keep my long up 20x leverage right?
[2017-05-01 07:08:53] Trade : read more about 'Funding Rate'
[2017-05-01 07:08:56] mark121 : my boss noted a clear correlation between my talent as analyst and my desire to come in work
[2017-05-01 07:09:08] mark121 : made me laugh
[2017-05-01 07:09:13] aron : both were 0?
[2017-05-01 07:09:30] Trade : Sagitus: Longs pay 0.0238% in 4 hours. Funding runs every 8 hours
[2017-05-01 07:09:43] mark121 : aron: ouch, lol no inversely correlated
[2017-05-01 07:09:50] Trade : .0000238
[2017-05-01 07:10:34] Sagitus : Im not sure what im doing, If I keep my long thats leveraged 20x do I have to pay to maintain it overnight ?
[2017-05-01 07:10:43] Trade : https://www.bitmex.com/app/swapsGuide#Funding
[2017-05-01 07:10:46] mark121 : aron: ud want to see where we are in the chart (the non moon non conservative outlookc hart)
[2017-05-01 07:10:58] mark121 : and then load up a intraday timeframe
[2017-05-01 07:11:26] mark121 : 15m to 4hr and develop a concensus
[2017-05-01 07:12:00] aron : thanks but its hard to read so nvm
[2017-05-01 07:12:05] mark121 : ll
[2017-05-01 07:12:09] brouk : Sagitus: if you are talking about XBTUSD perpetual swap long then yes, you will pay fees in 4 hours and then again in 12 hours
[2017-05-01 07:12:56] Sagitus : Im in XRP/BTC at the moment
[2017-05-01 07:13:14] mark121 : aron: not sure hhow to replt to that
[2017-05-01 07:13:20] mark121 : :p
[2017-05-01 07:14:17] brouk : Sagitus: there are no funding fees for XRPM17 contract, you only pay maker/taker or settlement fee – fees for opening or closing position
[2017-05-01 07:14:31] aron : mark121 i mean its a weekly chart not an intraday hcart
[2017-05-01 07:14:34] Trade : ya, those are futures eh?
[2017-05-01 07:14:53] brouk : Sagitus: that means you can hold it 60 days and you won't pay anything
[2017-05-01 07:26:59] mark121 : like shopping at the brick!
[2017-05-01 07:28:39] aron : mark121 is there anyway i can use this site to invest long term?
[2017-05-01 07:28:44] aron : long term as in a week
[2017-05-01 07:28:56] mark121 : best way to use it
[2017-05-01 07:29:09] mark121 : longt erm i refer to
[2017-05-01 07:29:10] aron : price is 1389 right now and i expect it to reach 1407 by the end of the week
[2017-05-01 07:29:13] mark121 : not a week
[2017-05-01 07:29:35] mark121 : so ud be best to long the june future
[2017-05-01 07:29:46] aron : how do i do that?
[2017-05-01 07:30:41] aron : i clicked on the june 30 button
[2017-05-01 07:31:13] pasa : https://www.tradingview.com Funny Bitcoin paymemt is impossible :(
[2017-05-01 07:32:01] Actualiteit : u dont use new account every month for the free premium?
[2017-05-01 07:32:01] Trade : They accept BTC
[2017-05-01 07:32:08] Trade : at TradingView
[2017-05-01 07:32:27] Trade : https://www.tradingview.com/gopro/#compare-plans (Click Pay with Bitcoin button at bottom of page)
[2017-05-01 07:32:37] mark121 : i wondr how much business
[2017-05-01 07:32:38] Trade : pasa:
[2017-05-01 07:32:41] mark121 : i jus got trrading view.
[2017-05-01 07:32:51] mark121 : if its more than 0
[2017-05-01 07:32:59] mark121 : damn the world!
[2017-05-01 07:33:05] rugu : use your referral program for these new accounts if u want
[2017-05-01 07:33:16] mark121 : is there one lol
[2017-05-01 07:33:26] rugu : think so
[2017-05-01 07:33:37] rugu : if the new referrals pay for an account, you get a kickback afaik
[2017-05-01 07:34:16] pasa : Trade: Thank you my foult :) yes they are
[2017-05-01 07:34:42] Trade : sure. I think it requires Annual subscription tho for BTC Payment
[2017-05-01 07:35:18] mark121 : sdamn
[2017-05-01 07:35:23] mark121 : i need to make a special link
[2017-05-01 07:35:35] mark121 : acct for referrals like it sa seperat eproram
[2017-05-01 07:35:46] mark121 : i mean separate acct, lame
[2017-05-01 07:35:51] mark121 : iif any1 of u havent paid yet
[2017-05-01 07:35:58] mark121 : id appareciate it, il lik in a sec
[2017-05-01 07:37:38] pasa : Trade: yes only Annual
[2017-05-01 07:38:30] Trade : it's difficult to change plans later, so make sure you get the one you want. Upgrades hard there
[2017-05-01 07:41:32] aron : mark121 i was thinking of going long by buying 500 contracts at 5x leverage for the june 30 thing
[2017-05-01 07:41:43] aron : i only have 0.3 btc to invest
[2017-05-01 07:42:01] aron : i could get 1 btc more
[2017-05-01 07:42:40] mark121 : gotcha
[2017-05-01 07:42:48] shapeshifter : anyone from bitmex?
[2017-05-01 07:42:49] aron : any recommendatins?
[2017-05-01 07:42:58] mark121 : if u can be patient
[2017-05-01 07:43:06] Trade : late to be going long now?
[2017-05-01 07:43:21] aron : mark 121 i was thinking of waiting for a 10% increase
[2017-05-01 07:43:23] mark121 : long the june future, on 5x or less and wait
[2017-05-01 07:43:37] mark121 : 10%increase in btc price?
[2017-05-01 07:43:37] aron : till june?
[2017-05-01 07:43:41] aron : yes
[2017-05-01 07:43:42] mark121 : wud be hudnreds of ROE
[2017-05-01 07:43:52] mark121 : on ur trade
[2017-05-01 07:43:55] aron : yes it owuld
[2017-05-01 07:43:58] mark121 : but thats solid
[2017-05-01 07:44:04] mark121 : u confused me cus u said 1407
[2017-05-01 07:44:09] mark121 : was ur target
[2017-05-01 07:44:09] aron : i meant 1447
[2017-05-01 07:44:35] aron : but that was arbitrary
[2017-05-01 07:44:38] mark121 : best thing u cud do is get as much as btc as u can and long with low lev and jus sit on it
[2017-05-01 07:44:47] mark121 : now its not as good as b4 lol obviously
[2017-05-01 07:44:58] mark121 : maybe wait til a considerable dip?
[2017-05-01 07:45:01] Ahhere : Is there a quick way to figure out how much you've spent in fees here?
[2017-05-01 07:45:05] aron : mark121 but what if it goes down every day? wont i have to pay bitmex?
[2017-05-01 07:45:12] mark121 : not on futures
[2017-05-01 07:45:18] aron : nice
[2017-05-01 07:45:25] mark121 : only on swap which if u hold long enuf
[2017-05-01 07:45:28] mark121 : events out quite well
[2017-05-01 07:45:31] mark121 : with some slippage
[2017-05-01 07:45:37] mark121 : but managable
[2017-05-01 07:45:42] aron : mark121 june 30 is a swap
[2017-05-01 07:46:00] mark121 : jun is a future
[2017-05-01 07:46:06] aron : oh sorry
[2017-05-01 07:46:08] mark121 : xbtm17
[2017-05-01 07:46:14] mark121 : xbtusd is swap
[2017-05-01 07:46:25] aron : so i wait tilljune 30 right?
[2017-05-01 07:46:31] mark121 : well
[2017-05-01 07:46:44] mark121 : if its june 20th and u in massiv eprofit
[2017-05-01 07:46:52] mark121 : but sense imminent disaster
[2017-05-01 07:46:56] aron : ye then sell
[2017-05-01 07:47:00] mark121 : u got it
[2017-05-01 07:47:06] mark121 : http://tradingview.go2cloud.org/aff_c?offer_id=2&aff_id=2262
[2017-05-01 07:47:07] aron : same can be said for may 20 right
[2017-05-01 07:47:10] mark121 : is this anything
[2017-05-01 07:47:15] mark121 : what od u get clicking that link
[2017-05-01 07:47:17] mark121 : anyone?
[2017-05-01 07:47:37] mark121 : is that the ETF date
[2017-05-01 07:47:52] mark121 : oh
[2017-05-01 07:47:56] mark121 : joke? :p
[2017-05-01 07:48:19] mark121 : bb shortly
[2017-05-01 07:48:49] zqooN : Morning Peepz, Botz, Rektz
[2017-05-01 07:49:04] zqooN : who was the funny guy changing the order of the tabs?
[2017-05-01 07:49:49] shapeshifter : Any MOD from Bitmex here?
[2017-05-01 07:50:10] frog : aron: if you are holding long term the average funding rate over past 30 days has been 0% for XBTUSD
[2017-05-01 07:50:30] frog : sometimes you pay sometimes they pay you
[2017-05-01 07:51:47] frog : with future there is currently a 0.8% premium over swap
[2017-05-01 07:51:58] pasa : mark121: Do you reccomend tradingview or maybe something more ?
[2017-05-01 07:52:18] mark121 : its best option i think
[2017-05-01 07:52:18] aron : frog i thought we didnt pay for futures
[2017-05-01 07:52:22] mark121 : did that referall link work
[2017-05-01 07:52:24] mark121 : aron: u dont
[2017-05-01 07:52:35] frog : aron: yo do but it is built into the price
[2017-05-01 07:52:37] mark121 : its false thinking that part he said
[2017-05-01 07:52:48] mark121 : as premium tends to stay ahead of future
[2017-05-01 07:52:53] mark121 : i emanr
[2017-05-01 07:52:56] mark121 : typo
[2017-05-01 07:52:57] frog : premium can vary as well
[2017-05-01 07:53:09] mark121 : as future tends to stya at a premium
[2017-05-01 07:53:11] mark121 : so u sell for more
[2017-05-01 07:53:18] mark121 : and u paid for more
[2017-05-01 07:53:32] mark121 : uneless u get fucked
[2017-05-01 07:53:40] mark121 : and futures turn bearish
[2017-05-01 07:53:41] frog : the future expires at underlying price with no premium
[2017-05-01 07:53:50] frog : or discount
[2017-05-01 07:53:51] mark121 : than u pay but not like u pay for swap
[2017-05-01 07:54:12] mark121 : swap literalyl deducts or adds money instantly to your total balance
[2017-05-01 07:54:29] mark121 : it doesnt settle at the mark?
[2017-05-01 07:54:33] mark121 : but even stil
[2017-05-01 07:54:44] mark121 : sell dont hold into settlement
[2017-05-01 07:54:47] mark121 : as he was doing :p
[2017-05-01 07:54:54] mark121 : or hypothetically doing
[2017-05-01 07:55:04] mark121 : k brb for real
[2017-05-01 07:56:05] frog : future settles using 30min time weight price prior to expiry, so at that time the price
[2017-05-01 07:56:40] frog : is sort of checked by the average
[2017-05-01 07:57:18] aron : frog its settling at june 30
[2017-05-01 07:57:34] aron : so i can sell it at june 29
[2017-05-01 07:57:41] aron : and not have the burden of 30 mins
[2017-05-01 07:57:42] frog : aron: yes
[2017-05-01 08:00:04] shery : something Big is coming for bitcoin in coming week
[2017-05-01 08:00:17] brouk : shery: why do you think so?
[2017-05-01 08:00:35] Trade : India legalization?
[2017-05-01 08:00:36] frog : aron: both are quite liquid
[2017-05-01 08:00:47] shery : @brouk If we didnt crash back we will move up so fats causing nig liquidations,
[2017-05-01 08:01:05] frog : some people short the future and long swap when the premium is high
[2017-05-01 08:01:34] shery : fast* Big*
[2017-05-01 08:03:17] rugu : Trade: it is already legal in India. That article a week ago was fake news
[2017-05-01 08:03:53] Ahhere : shery: mysterious go on
[2017-05-01 08:04:40] shery : rugu: It is not, government is silent , They are acting like they dont know bitcoin , Once it gets legalized it will get attention of black markets
[2017-05-01 08:05:00] frog : finex premium is reducing
[2017-05-01 08:05:03] rugu : im from India, I know some of the guys who run the bitcoin exchanges in India
[2017-05-01 08:05:35] rugu : it is in g=the grey area, but more towards legal, cause right now, bitcoin trading is classified/ taxable as a commodity
[2017-05-01 08:05:35] shery : rugu: Those exchnges dont have big volume do they have?
[2017-05-01 08:05:54] rugu : biggest in India, nothing compared to these ofc
[2017-05-01 08:06:15] rugu : but considerting 1$ is Rs68 in india also contributes to the lower volumes
[2017-05-01 08:06:39] shery : rugu: Once my friend sold his btc there and market dumped 100 $ for a day
[2017-05-01 08:06:49] shery : rugu: btc were in large amount
[2017-05-01 08:06:55] rugu : depends when, in 2016 it was low liquidity
[2017-05-01 08:07:10] shery : rugu: yeah somehwre around in 2016
[2017-05-01 08:07:16] rugu : now it has shot up, the exchange got something like $5million in funding from a vc to expand a few months ago
[2017-05-01 08:07:25] shery : rugu: oh
[2017-05-01 08:07:53] rugu : so that PR itself attracted lots of ppl, and now with the cash, i think they adding some alts as well
[2017-05-01 08:08:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETC7D`: buy 37 @ 0.005294
[2017-05-01 08:08:31] shery : rugu: I Dont think it will effect market, Indian market"
[2017-05-01 08:09:46] rugu : it is already
[2017-05-01 08:13:47] aron : is anyone here from UK?
[2017-05-01 08:14:42] aron : i tried to buy btc
[2017-05-01 08:14:44] NeoXx : aron: I study in the UK
[2017-05-01 08:15:00] aron : it said bank didnt accept transaction
[2017-05-01 08:15:15] NeoXx : aron: where did you try to buy?
[2017-05-01 08:15:27] aron : coinbase
[2017-05-01 08:15:46] NeoXx : aron: try bittylicious or localbitcoins
[2017-05-01 08:16:51] aron : i tried blockchain
[2017-05-01 08:25:22] Ahhere : aron: try localbitcoins and bring a knife
[2017-05-01 08:26:05] aron : lol
[2017-05-01 08:26:10] aron : they charge too much fees
[2017-05-01 08:26:13] aron : 10-20%
[2017-05-01 08:26:58] aron : why is btc suddenly going up? normally it fluctuates between 1000 to 1200
[2017-05-01 08:27:02] shery : local bitcoin have too much feeses
[2017-05-01 08:27:47] aron : there has been literally no good news for btc
[2017-05-01 08:28:04] Ahhere : aron: cos it's a trustless decentralised form of internet money with a limited supply mainly.
[2017-05-01 08:28:16] aron : i guess
[2017-05-01 08:28:31] shery : aron: This pump seems a fakeout , would be down soon
[2017-05-01 08:28:37] aron : maybe cause of Trump's spending?
[2017-05-01 08:28:45] Ahhere : Sheryl knows
[2017-05-01 08:28:51] aron : shery what do u mean a fakeout?
[2017-05-01 08:29:00] aron : someone is buying it to increase its price?
[2017-05-01 08:29:35] Ahhere : Means it's only pretending to go up before it crashes
[2017-05-01 08:29:39] shery : aron: yeah, will dump Big soon hopefully
[2017-05-01 08:30:03] aron : ahhere my point was that it cant pretend to go up
[2017-05-01 08:30:14] Ahhere : Bitcoin tricky
[2017-05-01 08:30:17] aron : cause either someone is buying it for the purpose of a big dump
[2017-05-01 08:30:21] shery : aron: It could if whales want it do so
[2017-05-01 08:30:24] aron : "bitcoin tricky" lol
[2017-05-01 08:30:51] aron : or it could jump to 2000
[2017-05-01 08:30:58] aron : by the end of the year
[2017-05-01 08:31:36] shery : aron: Dont know whats the logic behind new year pump
[2017-05-01 08:32:48] aron : drunk spending
[2017-05-01 08:33:07] aron : it just means by the end of the year
[2017-05-01 08:33:28] aron : not saying it will be 1300 at december 30 and suddenly 2000 by 31
[2017-05-01 08:33:31] Ahhere : Few hundred million volume yesterday not including local bitcoins not really easy to do whale fakeouts
[2017-05-01 08:34:20] Ahhere : Aths everywhere it's up time news will report on ath prices for king btc then your mom buys some
[2017-05-01 08:35:40] zqooN : doubt my mom will
[2017-05-01 08:36:33] Ahhere : zqooN: she ETH fan?
[2017-05-01 08:36:41] zqooN : she dead
[2017-05-01 08:36:46] shery : Ahhere: watch out something like new year dump soon 1200-800 that was
[2017-05-01 08:38:04] Ahhere : zqooN: u sure she doesn't have a wallet tucked away somewhere
[2017-05-01 08:38:28] KyllingLolsson : shery: ?
[2017-05-01 08:38:32] zqooN : sadly yes I'm sure
[2017-05-01 08:38:34] KyllingLolsson : TYPO
[2017-05-01 08:38:40] KyllingLolsson : chinese new year?
[2017-05-01 08:38:55] Ahhere : shery: yeah maybe bottom of channel is a bit higher now.
[2017-05-01 08:39:10] shery : KyllingLolsson: yeah
[2017-05-01 08:39:40] KyllingLolsson : shery: why wud it dump?
[2017-05-01 08:40:03] Ahhere : KyllingLolsson: whas poppn guy u long still?
[2017-05-01 08:40:41] shery : KyllingLolsson: This pump and price doesnt make any sense would be down back soon
[2017-05-01 08:40:44] KyllingLolsson : Ahhere: not anymore... i honestly dont know anything ryt now
[2017-05-01 08:40:59] KyllingLolsson : shery: thats what i want to believe
[2017-05-01 08:41:08] KyllingLolsson : but.. getting insecure
[2017-05-01 08:41:15] Ahhere : Same lol gonna take a break and hodl I think
[2017-05-01 08:41:52] Ahhere : Keep my winnings in doge obviously.
[2017-05-01 08:42:03] aron : why in doge
[2017-05-01 08:44:09] Ahhere : Jk doge is a joke @aron how is your trading going you've been here a few months now
[2017-05-01 08:44:15] KyllingLolsson : Ahhere: whats up with u?
[2017-05-01 08:44:31] Ahhere : KyllingLolsson: ps4 and baby Einstein ftw
[2017-05-01 08:44:43] KyllingLolsson : noice :)
[2017-05-01 08:44:48] Ahhere : Gf hungover in bed
[2017-05-01 08:44:59] KyllingLolsson : thinking abt either playing MGS or reading national geographic
[2017-05-01 08:45:15] Ahhere : Classy dad lol
[2017-05-01 08:45:22] KyllingLolsson : :D
[2017-05-01 08:45:30] Ahhere : Natgeo obviously
[2017-05-01 08:45:31] KyllingLolsson : kid sleeping wit mom
[2017-05-01 08:45:42] KyllingLolsson : some alone time for an hourt
[2017-05-01 08:46:18] Ahhere : Alone time ftw. I remember when I got doom and couldn't play it with my kid around couldn't wait for 8pm
[2017-05-01 08:46:46] KyllingLolsson : :D
[2017-05-01 08:47:12] KyllingLolsson : i really see foward to the day my kid gets "sick" and wanna stay home from school and play video games instead
[2017-05-01 08:47:39] KyllingLolsson : i would say "its not good to lie!" and turn on the tv
[2017-05-01 08:47:51] Ahhere : My older guy is nearly 5 he's playing racing games pretty well
[2017-05-01 08:48:14] KyllingLolsson : gold!
[2017-05-01 08:48:17] Ahhere : Looking forward to street fighter 2 tournaments with my two dudes when they older
[2017-05-01 08:48:43] KyllingLolsson : !!!!
[2017-05-01 08:48:45] KyllingLolsson : tekken
[2017-05-01 08:48:50] KyllingLolsson : wow
[2017-05-01 08:49:12] Ahhere : And mortal combat when they like 15
[2017-05-01 08:49:21] KyllingLolsson : ahhhh
[2017-05-01 08:49:23] Ahhere : Rip their heads off quality family time
[2017-05-01 08:49:30] KyllingLolsson : hahaha ofc
[2017-05-01 08:49:58] veritas : /sentiment
[2017-05-01 08:50:19] micmix : Ahhere: you would want to start mortal kombat when they are 7-8 if you want them to be really good later
[2017-05-01 08:50:33] aron : Ahhere its not going too well
[2017-05-01 08:50:40] aron : i shorted around 1300
[2017-05-01 08:50:52] aron : hoping to see some sweet crash
[2017-05-01 08:50:58] Ahhere : micmix: just disable the death moves?
[2017-05-01 08:50:59] aron : with some sweet cash
[2017-05-01 08:51:20] KyllingLolsson : aron: hope so too
[2017-05-01 08:51:32] aron : i have mixed feelings
[2017-05-01 08:51:37] brouk : aron: do not short the bull market, unless you want to learn the hard way
[2017-05-01 08:51:37] micmix : Ahhere: yeah, enable when they are 9-10 or so
[2017-05-01 08:51:38] aron : the model shows that it can increase