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[2017-04-30 23:59:03] Ahhere : i think its single digit percentage return
[2017-04-30 23:59:06] KingTuna : Ah i See, thanks
[2017-04-30 23:59:26] Ahhere : on dash
[2017-04-30 23:59:30] biz : new weekly candle incoming
[2017-04-30 23:59:32] hmmmYea : KingTuna: if you log out and log back in as mark121, i will give you an honest answer.
[2017-05-01 00:00:11] Ahhere : KingTuna: 11% return in 2016
[2017-05-01 00:00:49] KingTuna : hmmmYea: lol Im not Mark
[2017-05-01 00:00:57] Ahhere : you would say that
[2017-05-01 00:00:58] KingTuna : I don't trade 1 min charts
[2017-05-01 00:01:05] KingTuna : Nor scalp haha
[2017-05-01 00:01:08] hmmmYea : KingTuna: lol
[2017-05-01 00:01:56] KingTuna : Ahhere: Perhaps Ill just buy a BMW for $85k instead
[2017-05-01 00:02:11] KingTuna : wow my ETH going gangbusters :D
[2017-05-01 00:02:11] Ahhere : why would you buy a bmw
[2017-05-01 00:02:14] Ahhere : thats ridiculous
[2017-05-01 00:02:20] KingTuna : Audi better?
[2017-05-01 00:02:32] Ahhere : 85k get a tesla
[2017-05-01 00:02:46] KingTuna : Not many of them on the road in australia
[2017-05-01 00:02:54] Ahhere : exactly
[2017-05-01 00:03:05] Ahhere : 85 aud wont get you one tho
[2017-05-01 00:03:24] Ahhere : maybe a used one low spec
[2017-05-01 00:03:40] Ahhere : 11% return is hard to find, but dash might crash
[2017-05-01 00:03:48] Ahhere : *dash will crash
[2017-05-01 00:04:20] KingTuna : It wil eventually, in a few weeks max
[2017-05-01 00:09:40] biz : oh wow ETH/BTC almost another ATH
[2017-05-01 00:11:33] Nutella : wow ppl selling their GNO
[2017-05-01 00:11:43] Nutella : *shakes head*
[2017-05-01 00:12:13] Nutella : *left to right*
[2017-05-01 00:12:32] biz : i will lol if GNO opens at 0.04
[2017-05-01 00:12:37] biz : longers get rekt
[2017-05-01 00:12:39] hmmmYea : Nutella: im opening
[2017-05-01 00:14:19] mcstanky : biz: why is GNO so much higher than .04 now?
[2017-05-01 00:14:32] Nutella : just buy and stop asking qs
[2017-05-01 00:14:36] Nutella : the market KNOWS it all
[2017-05-01 00:14:43] biz : mcstanky: right now price is 4x higher than what people paid in the ICO
[2017-05-01 00:14:48] biz : on here at least
[2017-05-01 00:15:10] biz : so we have no clue exactly where people will place buy and sell orders when it is listed soon
[2017-05-01 00:15:21] biz : 17 more hours
[2017-05-01 00:15:22] Nutella : yeah we do, above 0.1
[2017-05-01 00:15:36] Nutella : they will take this price and add hefty premium
[2017-05-01 00:15:49] biz : that's just rapidtrades guessing. they are single handily propping the GNO price up on here
[2017-05-01 00:17:29] KingTuna : If you buy GNO, you have to sit in it for now without much liquiidy. No point, better options out there
[2017-05-01 00:17:36] KingTuna : Rapidtrades cannot trade
[2017-05-01 00:18:00] KingTuna : eg. LTC .. short short short from $4.78 LOL
[2017-05-01 00:18:09] KingTuna : Do the opposite of what he does hehe
[2017-05-01 00:18:14] frog : biz: gno price will be quite volatile when listed so risk both ways if leveraged
[2017-05-01 00:18:41] biz : that's why i will wait till it is listed and fomo a few contracts in either direction the price starts at
[2017-05-01 00:18:54] frog : biz: sensible plan
[2017-05-01 00:19:30] biz : ETH ATH
[2017-05-01 00:20:10] KingTuna : WOWOWOWOW
[2017-05-01 00:20:21] mofeta : wtf
[2017-05-01 00:20:40] biz : .06
[2017-05-01 00:20:50] KingTuna : <3
[2017-05-01 00:20:52] biz : big dump
[2017-05-01 00:21:45] biz : ETH price should swing a lot thin books
[2017-05-01 00:22:08] KingTuna : ETH will reach 0.12 BTC in a few weeks
[2017-05-01 00:22:46] Nutella : bitcoin=history
[2017-05-01 00:22:54] Nutella : all these bagholders =dead
[2017-05-01 00:23:56] biz : i wonder if REP will pump a lot of GNO does
[2017-05-01 00:24:18] Nutella : no?
[2017-05-01 00:24:27] Nutella : ETH is already pumping cos of GNO
[2017-05-01 00:24:56] Nutella : GNO up 4x ETH up 44% since ICO
[2017-05-01 00:25:04] mcstanky : GNO is built on ETH, yes?
[2017-05-01 00:25:10] Nutella : GNO launch will break records
[2017-05-01 00:25:20] hmmmYea : @mcstanky yes
[2017-05-01 00:31:35] mcstanky : why so much GNO hype? why will it be so great?
[2017-05-01 00:33:45] sleger : it wont, just trolls FUDing for P&D
[2017-05-01 00:35:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHM17`: sell 60 @ 0.06301
[2017-05-01 00:36:15] Johnster1 : Is Sam her?
[2017-05-01 00:36:20] Johnster1 : Is Sam here?
[2017-05-01 00:36:31] biz : dont think so
[2017-05-01 00:36:43] Johnster1 : Anybody from support?
[2017-05-01 00:36:51] biz : have not seen anyone recently
[2017-05-01 00:37:48] Johnster1 : I'm so rekt due to impossible to log-in a few hours ago... I had a close signal just before the pump, but could log-in for almost an hour...
[2017-05-01 00:38:04] biz : bummer
[2017-05-01 00:38:10] biz : better luck next time
[2017-05-01 00:38:20] MikeHunt : Johnster1: why couldnt u login?
[2017-05-01 00:38:38] Johnster1 : Nothing to do with luck... tech issue
[2017-05-01 00:39:02] MikeHunt : Johnster1: did u try another connection/pc ?
[2017-05-01 00:40:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHM17`: sell 56 @ 0.06230
[2017-05-01 00:40:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHM17`: sell 100 @ 0.06254
[2017-05-01 00:40:39] Johnster1 : Yeah man... tried everything, browsers, cookies, pc's. Sam already admitted they had an issue... Many others in my group had the same issue.
[2017-05-01 00:41:36] Johnster1 : Just a bounching logo
[2017-05-01 00:42:16] MikeHunt : Johnster1: different connection?
[2017-05-01 00:43:29] Johnster1 : Nothing wrong with the connection. Sam already admitted there was an issue. But in the hour BTC pumped like crazy and my position what I tried to close is now at -300%
[2017-05-01 00:44:37] biz : are you going to hold it and hope for a dump?
[2017-05-01 00:45:09] Johnster1 : Well... I don't know bro
[2017-05-01 00:45:22] biz : ATH for gdax and coinbase
[2017-05-01 00:45:28] biz : and bitstamp
[2017-05-01 00:45:38] MikeHunt : Johnster1: stop loss?
[2017-05-01 00:46:20] Johnster1 : Yeah... that's why I tried to close my in profit short at 1337 now at -300% or -0.65btc
[2017-05-01 00:46:29] biz : swap so bearish. push push push. ATH and rekts come on
[2017-05-01 00:46:53] MikeHunt : Johnster1: that sucks, how much of ur capital is at stake?
[2017-05-01 00:47:07] biz : Johnster1: sounds like high leverage
[2017-05-01 00:47:12] Johnster1 : 5% open at cross
[2017-05-01 00:47:26] MikeHunt : Johnster1: cross means ur whole account gets liq
[2017-05-01 00:47:31] MikeHunt : so 100% exposure
[2017-05-01 00:47:35] Johnster1 : yep
[2017-05-01 00:47:52] Johnster1 : It's still $360 up...
[2017-05-01 00:48:41] Johnster1 : Liq. Price is 1736
[2017-05-01 00:48:50] MikeHunt : should be alright
[2017-05-01 00:48:57] MikeHunt : whats ur entry?
[2017-05-01 00:49:29] Johnster1 : Breakeven is 1337, where I wanted to close,
[2017-05-01 00:49:38] Johnster1 : just before the pump
[2017-05-01 00:49:48] Johnster1 : I had a close signal from my strategy there
[2017-05-01 00:49:59] MikeHunt : Johnster1: worst case scenario is 1350
[2017-05-01 00:50:07] MikeHunt : bitmex should compensate u though since its there fault
[2017-05-01 00:50:11] MikeHunt : by sounds of it
[2017-05-01 00:50:41] sleger : and if he had made money ?
[2017-05-01 00:50:48] sleger : should bitmex take it as well ?
[2017-05-01 00:51:15] Johnster1 : sleger: good point, but no.
[2017-05-01 00:51:27] sleger : then technical issue = free option ?
[2017-05-01 00:51:54] MikeHunt : sleger: well paying out for screw ups would disincentivise screw ups
[2017-05-01 00:51:56] Johnster1 : I'm not sure... that's why I'm throwing it in here.
[2017-05-01 00:52:18] Johnster1 : I'm not the only one, I've it documented with video, pics and withnesses.
[2017-05-01 00:53:22] Johnster1 : What is specially weird... 1337 was my break even ,and I had a close signal from my strategy... I can't log-in, and a bunch of other people with me, and the price goes vertical...
[2017-05-01 00:53:23] sleger : they'd probably pay the loss then to avoid bad comm
[2017-05-01 00:53:40] sleger : but the fair price is lower than the real loss as you had a losing position from the start
[2017-05-01 00:53:55] sleger : how much precisely, hard to say
[2017-05-01 00:54:03] Johnster1 : Position has been open for days...
[2017-05-01 00:54:59] Johnster1 : added some to the postion down the road... but didn't work out in the end... so a close signal showed up...
[2017-05-01 00:56:29] Johnster1 : http://awesomescreenshot.com/0596asm537
[2017-05-01 00:56:43] Johnster1 : I'm not BS'ing..
[2017-05-01 00:57:26] sleger : that couldnt have been made up later ?
[2017-05-01 00:57:56] MikeHunt : bitmex can check his acc. see truth etc.
[2017-05-01 00:58:24] Johnster1 : Timelines and all fits...
[2017-05-01 00:59:26] sleger : out of curiosity it was your account or IP, or .... ?
[2017-05-01 00:59:32] Johnster1 : Signal is real... I've alerts on these signals... I was on teamspeak and nobody was able to log-in.
[2017-05-01 01:00:34] Johnster1 : People that were logged in had no issues, after a page refresh or fresh log-in nothing.
[2017-05-01 01:01:03] Johnster1 : Nah never-mind... thanks for listening.
[2017-05-01 01:01:11] Johnster1 : Ticket is open.
[2017-05-01 01:02:12] sleger : oh nobody could log in instead the ones already logged in ?
[2017-05-01 01:02:23] Johnster1 : yep
[2017-05-01 01:02:45] sleger : how long did it last ?
[2017-05-01 01:02:53] Johnster1 : About an hour
[2017-05-01 01:03:02] Johnster1 : in my case
[2017-05-01 01:03:07] sleger : oh im glad i was logged in then
[2017-05-01 01:03:10] BitMEX_Sam : We had an issue with our CDN, it lasted just under 30 minutes
[2017-05-01 01:03:29] BitMEX_Sam : API was still operational as was the site for logged-in users, CDN was serving incorrect data making it impossible to boot the site.
[2017-05-01 01:03:37] BitMEX_Sam : Johnster1: We'll reply to you directly via email.
[2017-05-01 01:03:59] Johnster1 : OK thanks Sam... wil have a look.
[2017-05-01 01:05:26] hmmmYea : i also wanted to make the best trade ever then. can you just send me eth instead of btc tho?
[2017-05-01 01:06:55] sleger : my second account too ! the one that wasnt logged in at the time
[2017-05-01 01:07:10] sleger : a huge trade on top of that :(
[2017-05-01 01:07:38] hmmmYea : i was gonna run gno thru all da stops. and then flip it short off the liqs.
[2017-05-01 01:07:46] hmmmYea : estimated pnl 25btc
[2017-05-01 01:08:03] hmmmYea : sooner the better
[2017-05-01 01:08:56] hmmmYea : for the archival readers, the above was a joke
[2017-05-01 01:12:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `LTCM17`: buy 1 @ 0.01316
[2017-05-01 01:12:44] sleger : also all people who were not logged in and didnt report a missing winning trade were all probably going to lose 1 btc on a bad one and that should be taken from their balance
[2017-05-01 01:13:12] hmmmYea : sleger: safe to say quarterly alt futures didnt work?
[2017-05-01 01:14:47] needmoneyquick : I was once up 1.5 btc on this site and closed it market
[2017-05-01 01:14:57] needmoneyquick : i lost the 1.5 btc plus .1 extra
[2017-05-01 01:15:30] needmoneyquick : tons of shady things happen. Support said it was normal tho
[2017-05-01 01:16:47] sleger : then its all good
[2017-05-01 01:16:54] sleger : you just lostmoneyquick
[2017-05-01 01:17:03] needmoneyquick : guess so
[2017-05-01 01:17:14] needmoneyquick : sent me in a depression for a couple weeks
[2017-05-01 01:17:27] MikeHunt : 1.5btc is fuck all compared to what ive lost
[2017-05-01 01:17:59] needmoneyquick : but that wasn't my fault
[2017-05-01 01:18:20] MikeHunt : u must have got a calculation wrong or something
[2017-05-01 01:18:27] needmoneyquick : its the manipulation polo pulls
[2017-05-01 01:18:47] needmoneyquick : in unrealized pnl it was 1.5 btc
[2017-05-01 01:20:18] MikeHunt : needmoneyquick: RoE ?
[2017-05-01 01:20:22] MikeHunt : entry ? exit?
[2017-05-01 01:21:26] sleger : first what product
[2017-05-01 01:22:21] L9 : There is a 400 btc wall on gtdax
[2017-05-01 01:22:31] L9 : 40 sry
[2017-05-01 01:23:23] sleger : 40 !! wow
[2017-05-01 01:23:27] sleger : thanks for telling us ...
[2017-05-01 01:23:31] sleger : /sarcasm
[2017-05-01 01:25:48] L9 : Very "funny". Jim Carrey smokes nervously
[2017-05-01 01:46:11] jose : /joke
[2017-05-01 01:53:05] foobar : probably didn't take into consideration the taker fee
[2017-05-01 01:57:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `REP7D`: sell 20 @ 0.013280
[2017-05-01 01:59:43] hmmmYea : 16,800 eth buy wall
[2017-05-01 02:00:09] hmmmYea : on........
[2017-05-01 02:00:12] hmmmYea : yobiy
[2017-05-01 02:00:27] hmmmYea : 2 months worth of volume
[2017-05-01 02:09:13] KingTuna : hmmmYea: Where's that? POLO?
[2017-05-01 02:09:51] hmmmYea : KingTuna: yobit
[2017-05-01 02:09:57] hmmmYea : very scummy exch
[2017-05-01 02:11:59] KingTuna : hmm I never ever look there. Never really heard about it
[2017-05-01 02:12:26] Gr33d : It's crap
[2017-05-01 02:14:22] KingTuna : Yeah lol
[2017-05-01 02:18:02] KingTuna : Sell in June, buy a prune
[2017-05-01 02:20:56] Nutella : gnosis on the move!
[2017-05-01 02:21:07] Nutella : last chance to pick it up below 0.11
[2017-05-01 02:23:49] podizzle3k : nutella we're gonna start short circuiting the circuit breakers soon
[2017-05-01 02:27:18] KingTuna : Nutella: F*Ck Gnosis
[2017-05-01 02:27:25] KingTuna : There's better less hyped shit around
[2017-05-01 02:27:35] KingTuna : Why park your coin there
[2017-05-01 02:27:50] KingTuna : Been making a fortune on other main alts instead
[2017-05-01 02:31:04] Gr33d : KingTuna: +1
[2017-05-01 02:32:49] podizzle3k : wow bit harsh
[2017-05-01 02:35:03] KingTuna : BTC flying
[2017-05-01 02:38:35] rapidgains : gnosis will be good money in the first week
[2017-05-01 02:38:45] rapidgains : other than that idc about it
[2017-05-01 02:39:04] Gr33d : rapidgains: first day at most.
[2017-05-01 02:52:58] Diplomata : /price
[2017-05-01 02:59:56] Gr33d : /rekt
[2017-05-01 02:59:59] Gr33d : /joke
[2017-05-01 03:00:07] hmmmYea : /price
[2017-05-01 03:00:19] Gr33d : /ecirp
[2017-05-01 03:03:54] Trade : /wtf bot
[2017-05-01 03:04:12] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 3000 @ 1380.4
[2017-05-01 03:04:41] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 900 @ 1380.6
[2017-05-01 03:04:43] rapidgains : anybody make any money shorting alts the past week? lol
[2017-05-01 03:04:56] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 134344 @ 1381.7 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:
[2017-05-01 03:05:07] rapidgains : rekt
[2017-05-01 03:05:20] rapidgains : coinbase 1403
[2017-05-01 03:05:38] Trade : not sure I can get quarterlies to work, will revist again, but the premium and spreads are rich
[2017-05-01 03:06:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 20707 @ 1382.1
[2017-05-01 03:06:34] Trade : DAX past 1400
[2017-05-01 03:07:08] rapidgains : man
[2017-05-01 03:07:13] rapidgains : buying the dip is such an easy strategy in a bull market
[2017-05-01 03:07:16] rapidgains : free money
[2017-05-01 03:07:23] Trade : not a lot stopping DAX til 1430 at moment
[2017-05-01 03:07:24] rapidgains : until the floor is pulled
[2017-05-01 03:07:43] rapidgains : but until then FREE MONEY!
[2017-05-01 03:09:32] REKT : MOOON TIME!
[2017-05-01 03:09:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 10947 @ 1383.7
[2017-05-01 03:13:41] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 50 @ 1385.2
[2017-05-01 03:22:00] jeeburns : coin base weeee
[2017-05-01 03:26:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHM17`: sell 20 @ 0.06148
[2017-05-01 03:26:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHM17`: sell 30 @ 0.06145
[2017-05-01 03:26:22] Trade : could be ver interesting Monday
[2017-05-01 03:28:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: sell 5 @ 0.005010
[2017-05-01 03:31:07] wurstgelee : so do i get this right, the limit up/down will be removed on may 2nd while spo trading will start on mya 1st? for gno?
[2017-05-01 03:31:14] wurstgelee : *spot
[2017-05-01 03:31:30] wurstgelee : so one day after it started trading?
[2017-05-01 03:31:37] wurstgelee : according to https://blog.bitmex.com/notice-regarding-gnosis-futures-contracts/ ?
[2017-05-01 03:34:56] BitMEX_Arthur : Yes the changes mentioned will take effect on the 2nd of May
[2017-05-01 03:37:45] Gr33d : /price
[2017-05-01 03:43:33] Guo : 4%
[2017-05-01 03:47:57] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 400 @ 1392.3
[2017-05-01 03:47:57] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 15000 @ 1392.6
[2017-05-01 03:54:57] Trade : Liftoff 8h6m, target 1440
[2017-05-01 03:57:42] MikeHunt : Trade: why then?
[2017-05-01 03:58:13] Trade : Monday morning, start of trading
[2017-05-01 03:58:30] Trade : common surge on charts
[2017-05-01 04:01:42] CLAW : WHAT 25K ON 1396
[2017-05-01 04:02:17] FoCheezyBreezy : You mean 272k
[2017-05-01 04:02:22] Trade : ah wow
[2017-05-01 04:02:39] Trade : DAX not much resistance
[2017-05-01 04:02:47] Trade : maybe that's a fake wall lol
[2017-05-01 04:03:00] CLAW : 250K lol
[2017-05-01 04:03:53] Trade : gone
[2017-05-01 04:04:05] Trade : oops no
[2017-05-01 04:04:08] Trade : just scroled, lol
[2017-05-01 04:04:21] Trade : updating my grouping to 1.0
[2017-05-01 04:08:29] bob12 : where is this wall
[2017-05-01 04:08:58] Trade : was 1396
[2017-05-01 04:09:24] Trade : here
[2017-05-01 04:09:33] bob12 : ah ok thanks
[2017-05-01 04:09:40] Trade : np
[2017-05-01 04:16:49] cbbc : omg
[2017-05-01 04:17:10] cbbc : wait 2000usd
[2017-05-01 04:17:33] Trade : not til tomorrow AM ;)
[2017-05-01 04:18:17] Guo : i think one bit can buy a house 10years later
[2017-05-01 04:22:53] Labowski : /price
[2017-05-01 04:22:53] deep : sorry what is this wall at 250K at 1296 ...u r talkingabout trade? and where we can see it?
[2017-05-01 04:23:21] Labowski : /price
[2017-05-01 04:24:44] Trade : look at orderbook, change grouping to at lesat 1.0
[2017-05-01 04:24:50] Trade : sell wall 1396
[2017-05-01 04:24:51] CLAW : deep / see XBTUSD perpetual swap orderbook
[2017-05-01 04:25:05] CLAW : 250k on 1396
[2017-05-01 04:25:19] Trade : ya, or just expand orderbook full screen
[2017-05-01 04:25:29] Trade : we just need to chew through it, lol
[2017-05-01 04:27:44] lcj : 1BTC=10000RMB
[2017-05-01 04:27:53] lcj : now
[2017-05-01 04:28:08] Trade : wow
[2017-05-01 04:28:34] j8 : tell that to the chinese exchanges
[2017-05-01 04:29:29] Trade : LBC? ;)
[2017-05-01 04:31:05] j8 : presumably miners sell OTC in china, i wonder what price they get
[2017-05-01 04:31:25] Trade : well, I think they offoad outside China, like HK
[2017-05-01 04:31:41] deep : Thanks guys saw it.....
[2017-05-01 04:31:45] Trade : SG, etc
[2017-05-01 04:31:52] deep : I see one at 1394 too almost same size
[2017-05-01 04:32:02] Trade : 24k vs 250k
[2017-05-01 04:41:45] mark121 : /sentiment
[2017-05-01 04:42:10] mark121 : trollbot oh trollbot, where art thou
[2017-05-01 04:44:48] mark121 : u kno its moon times when ppl who formerly disliked u start +1 (liking) your charts on TV - ones from last year even
[2017-05-01 04:45:41] mark121 : and they say TA doesnt work in crypto (not sure who 'they' are or why they said it to begin with lol)
[2017-05-01 04:45:44] mark121 : https://www.tradingview.com/chart/BTCUSD/4EG3VxFf-BITCOIN-BTC-Another-faster-path-to-glory-Could-it-be/
[2017-05-01 04:46:10] mark121 : ^was for the recent trend
[2017-05-01 04:46:15] mark121 : https://www.tradingview.com/chart/BTCUSD/XNLxlgCI-Bitcoin-BTCUSD-2017-Pricing-Model-Conservative-Outlook/
[2017-05-01 04:46:47] mark121 : ^was my creation from december 16' for BTC this year
[2017-05-01 04:47:07] bob12 : very nice
[2017-05-01 04:47:25] bob12 : you think we are in for the short squeeze?
[2017-05-01 04:47:54] mark121 : i think we def saw some alrdy
[2017-05-01 04:48:15] mark121 : and likely more instore
[2017-05-01 04:48:21] bob12 : i think a finex short squeez plus an eth pop could give us an actual bubble
[2017-05-01 04:48:40] mark121 : a bubble is a funny term that i stray from
[2017-05-01 04:48:47] mark121 : most use it incorrectly imo
[2017-05-01 04:48:56] mark121 : so much so i created this
[2017-05-01 04:49:07] mark121 : sec
[2017-05-01 04:49:12] bob12 : i use it only as a descriptive of bitcoins unique history
[2017-05-01 04:49:22] bob12 : one of THOSE again
[2017-05-01 04:49:26] mark121 : https://www.tradingview.com/chart/BTCUSD/f4DuHhHg-Definition-of-a-Bubble-A-Price-Bubble-Not-the-Re-Bath-Bubble/
[2017-05-01 04:49:33] iamhugo : /joke
[2017-05-01 04:49:47] mark121 : back in dec
[2017-05-01 04:50:53] mark121 : thats my own defintion as far as i understand theterm i didnt look it up
[2017-05-01 04:51:13] bob12 : it works
[2017-05-01 04:52:18] bob12 : a run is badly needed now. bitcoin really needs to challenge the current market share
[2017-05-01 04:53:03] mark121 : ew too bad for all the bad grammar and typos in my defintion lol
[2017-05-01 04:53:31] mark121 : but im being anal in principle
[2017-05-01 04:54:06] mark121 : while its not the right term
[2017-05-01 04:54:22] mark121 : most likely think it to be the same thing the others do
[2017-05-01 04:54:37] mark121 : which is like a "fad bull market"
[2017-05-01 04:54:52] mark121 : or some hyped up market
[2017-05-01 04:57:05] bob12 : yeah maybe. pressure is on. crypto is on the cusp hitting major nervecenters. all about getting the winning team right
[2017-05-01 04:57:28] mark121 : i dont subscribe to that personally
[2017-05-01 04:57:41] bob12 : thoughts?
[2017-05-01 04:58:35] mark121 : i think ppl in community have a insulated view of btc from a global perspective
[2017-05-01 04:59:25] mark121 : and under estimate the very young nature of the entire crypto/blockchain market
[2017-05-01 04:59:32] mark121 : in other words
[2017-05-01 04:59:52] XBT_Saver : hey
[2017-05-01 05:00:06] mark121 : ppl are now considering bitcoin not to be a scam, people who dont know anything about the tech
[2017-05-01 05:00:22] mark121 : like the global majority, aka the general population
[2017-05-01 05:00:44] mark121 : which provides a massive amount of new $
[2017-05-01 05:00:47] bob12 : that is true. i live on btc. it went from investment to "safe" money to me
[2017-05-01 05:00:48] mark121 : all the time
[2017-05-01 05:01:06] mark121 : that one factor alone canno tbe understated
[2017-05-01 05:01:41] mark121 : thats why i never had a hard time beleiving
[2017-05-01 05:01:55] mark121 : we cud break 1000 again and thats jus a start
[2017-05-01 05:02:06] mark121 : (before we didnt break 1k again for a while) lol
[2017-05-01 05:02:58] mark121 : i gues added to that .. . non crypto people who know markets required no news nor search of it to understand why it crashed the first time
[2017-05-01 05:03:09] bob12 : would that reputation also benefit other coins then, who are marketed like "bitcoin+"?
[2017-05-01 05:03:40] mark121 : that is difficult to know
[2017-05-01 05:03:48] mark121 : there are so many, as u know
[2017-05-01 05:04:11] bob12 : i think there are only two. to the outside world
[2017-05-01 05:04:12] mark121 : if u mean specific using the bitcoin name or a play on it
[2017-05-01 05:04:44] mark121 : tthen i imagine ppl assume they are ripoffs
[2017-05-01 05:04:52] bob12 : just that bitcoin becoming trusted lends a bit of trust to crypto in general
[2017-05-01 05:04:53] mark121 : that beeing said
[2017-05-01 05:04:58] mark121 : yes it does
[2017-05-01 05:05:25] mark121 : i kno considered 3 levels of coins
[2017-05-01 05:05:28] KingTuna : mark121: How's your DASh big boy?
[2017-05-01 05:05:32] mark121 : bitcoin, secondary
[2017-05-01 05:05:37] mark121 : erm
[2017-05-01 05:05:40] mark121 : bitcoin being first
[2017-05-01 05:05:59] rugu : why is etherem pumping nonstop
[2017-05-01 05:06:03] rugu : whats with this bull run
[2017-05-01 05:06:03] mark121 : secondary status coins like dash xmr eth zcash lightcoin ripple
[2017-05-01 05:06:05] KingTuna : ETH <3
[2017-05-01 05:06:10] mark121 : and then tertiary
[2017-05-01 05:06:15] mark121 : all the rest
[2017-05-01 05:06:35] mark121 : (the secondary list wasntexclusive there are others)
[2017-05-01 05:06:42] rugu : KingTuna: you closing your long soon?
[2017-05-01 05:06:58] KingTuna : nope
[2017-05-01 05:07:01] mark121 : but to kno which will make the jump from tertiary to secondary is hard to know
[2017-05-01 05:07:10] mark121 : cud be an entire industry in speculation
[2017-05-01 05:07:18] bob12 : i worry about the effect of corporate endorsement on the general public. which btc might be unlikely to get. not a killer for sure, but a worry in regards to eth
[2017-05-01 05:07:20] KingTuna : XRP <33
[2017-05-01 05:07:26] KingTuna : XRP <3
[2017-05-01 05:07:40] KingTuna : Mark down a bunch on DASH eh
[2017-05-01 05:07:43] mark121 : iim building really nice dash position
[2017-05-01 05:07:49] KingTuna : Just hold onto it , it will be fine mate
[2017-05-01 05:07:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `XRPM17`: buy 9999 @ 0.00004610
[2017-05-01 05:07:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `XRPM17`: buy 150000 @ 0.00004610
[2017-05-01 05:08:11] KingTuna : Up 19 BTC on XRP
[2017-05-01 05:08:16] mark121 : im less than 1btc
[2017-05-01 05:08:20] MikeHunt : rekon we'll see 1370 again?
[2017-05-01 05:08:21] mark121 : down on dash
[2017-05-01 05:08:32] KingTuna : DASH will be fine. $170 target
[2017-05-01 05:08:38] KingTuna : ETH 0.12 target
[2017-05-01 05:08:40] mark121 : im perfecly happy with it
[2017-05-01 05:08:40] KingTuna : XRP up a lot more
[2017-05-01 05:08:53] mark121 : duh
[2017-05-01 05:08:54] KingTuna : 4-5 weeks before a consolidation period that will last 6 weeks
[2017-05-01 05:09:01] rugu : Eth 0.12, are you serious?
[2017-05-01 05:09:05] KingTuna : yeah
[2017-05-01 05:09:07] KingTuna : Make note
[2017-05-01 05:09:08] mark121 : eth .12 is a little dramatic
[2017-05-01 05:09:11] mark121 : if u mean now
[2017-05-01 05:09:12] KingTuna : Watch
[2017-05-01 05:09:13] mark121 : however
[2017-05-01 05:09:18] rugu : based on what will eth have sucha bull rally
[2017-05-01 05:09:19] mark121 : it cud do a flash run
[2017-05-01 05:09:27] mark121 : (i have sells set at .1 :p
[2017-05-01 05:09:41] KingTuna : BTC @ $1400 was also dramatic if one mentioned this in January 2013
[2017-05-01 05:09:47] mark121 : no
[2017-05-01 05:09:55] mark121 : lol
[2017-05-01 05:09:57] mark121 : but n
[2017-05-01 05:10:01] mark121 : t*
[2017-05-01 05:10:09] mark121 : timeframe is what matters
[2017-05-01 05:10:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `ZECM17`: sell 7 @ 0.070365
[2017-05-01 05:10:25] mark121 : howeverread that i basically agreed lol
[2017-05-01 05:10:37] mark121 : ive had sells set all day
[2017-05-01 05:10:53] mark121 : forr some kind flash run like it has oin previous iterations
[2017-05-01 05:10:55] mark121 : superwicks
[2017-05-01 05:10:56] mark121 : lol
[2017-05-01 05:11:04] rugu : what sign was there for you to jump on eth @mark ?
[2017-05-01 05:11:13] MikeHunt : eth could replace btc
[2017-05-01 05:11:19] mark121 : lol.
[2017-05-01 05:11:26] mark121 : if it forks sure
[2017-05-01 05:11:38] mark121 : rugu: theere were plenty
[2017-05-01 05:11:45] mark121 : one kinda obvious one
[2017-05-01 05:11:53] mark121 : is we hit .07 weeks ago
[2017-05-01 05:12:04] mark121 : yes momentarily
[2017-05-01 05:12:05] rugu : ya that I knew
[2017-05-01 05:12:11] rugu : but that time btc price was also much much lower
[2017-05-01 05:12:16] mark121 : thaats the dummies answer
[2017-05-01 05:12:20] mark121 : hhehe
[2017-05-01 05:12:22] mark121 : (mine)
[2017-05-01 05:12:36] mark121 : technicallly speaking these were all in the cards
[2017-05-01 05:12:55] mark121 : i am slghlty surprised
[2017-05-01 05:13:02] mark121 : that bth BTC has rallied and alts have
[2017-05-01 05:13:06] mark121 : both*
[2017-05-01 05:13:11] mark121 : its a good sign
[2017-05-01 05:13:22] mark121 : only way thats possible is with new money
[2017-05-01 05:13:41] rugu : yes all the new guys (like me)
[2017-05-01 05:13:48] mark121 : becoming a real market now
[2017-05-01 05:13:58] brouk : many new users and investors coming in crypto
[2017-05-01 05:14:03] XBT_Saver : @KingTuna you seem to do real well on alts.
[2017-05-01 05:14:16] mark121 : not one that lives and dies on BTC's str or waekness
[2017-05-01 05:14:47] mark121 : XBT_Saver: when u have a decent amount of BTC - its printing money my man
[2017-05-01 05:15:25] mark121 : buy buy buy (u got the bank to hold thru potential bad timing) and well - may 2morow maybe 3 weks from now
[2017-05-01 05:15:31] mark121 : ull be in profits
[2017-05-01 05:16:17] mark121 : gota make some solid trades when u got less than 5 btc or 10
[2017-05-01 05:16:33] mark121 : but it becomes greener and greener pastures
[2017-05-01 05:16:37] mark121 : as ur farm expands :p
[2017-05-01 05:17:06] XBT_Saver : what do you call "a decent amount of BTC" then?
[2017-05-01 05:17:25] rugu : enough to join the /rrekt club ?
[2017-05-01 05:17:26] mark121 : 20-100 is decent
[2017-05-01 05:17:48] mark121 : to a fulltime trader
[2017-05-01 05:17:57] XBT_Saver : what are you trading with?
[2017-05-01 05:17:59] mark121 : if u got skil that shud take u much more
[2017-05-01 05:18:52] mark121 : i trade multiple accts and they are all atleast decent cept one :P (4 accts total)
[2017-05-01 05:19:25] mark121 : best to keep winnings to urselves at a certain point
[2017-05-01 05:20:19] mark121 : but im not a hacker nor understand the scope of their abilities and have been hurt in the past, not directly but it stil cost my friends and i
[2017-05-01 05:20:36] XBT_Saver : are you in the leader board on here yet?
[2017-05-01 05:20:36] mark121 : we all chiped in to get victim back up and running
[2017-05-01 05:20:52] Trade : Were they using 2FA on their Exchange account?
[2017-05-01 05:21:09] rugu : whats the timeline/ interval on the leaderboard?
[2017-05-01 05:21:24] mark121 : i dont use the leaderboard i think its dissabled
[2017-05-01 05:21:27] mark121 : on all
[2017-05-01 05:21:34] Zelo : everyone should use 2FA
[2017-05-01 05:21:44] mark121 : well i can say yes he was
[2017-05-01 05:21:48] mark121 : but i cant be 100% sure
[2017-05-01 05:21:56] Trade : agree, was to @mark121, re his friend's hack
[2017-05-01 05:22:15] mark121 : one buddy says he saw him using it b4 that
[2017-05-01 05:22:19] mark121 : and he says he was
[2017-05-01 05:22:23] Trade : was hacked off Exchange account and not local wallet I guess?
[2017-05-01 05:22:25] mark121 : but.. well ,, hes been funny inthe past
[2017-05-01 05:22:41] mark121 : yes
[2017-05-01 05:22:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `XRPM17`: buy 1000 @ 0.00004687
[2017-05-01 05:23:02] Trade : Google 2FA better than SMS 2FA
[2017-05-01 05:23:15] mark121 : in other words if i didnt know himso well , id believe him 100%
[2017-05-01 05:23:17] mark121 : :p
[2017-05-01 05:23:18] Trade : almost time to eat the sell wall
[2017-05-01 05:24:49] Trade : Still remain curious how high of leverage successful traders are using... Think I'm being conservative at moment
[2017-05-01 05:25:26] rapidgains : high leverage for me is over 10x
[2017-05-01 05:25:41] longbydefault : he was talking about successful traders... jk
[2017-05-01 05:25:44] rapidgains : im at like 5x on btc
[2017-05-01 05:26:11] Trade : Max I like to use is 5x, but... can't decide for longs... I use 5x for shorts
[2017-05-01 05:26:12] rugu : rapidgains: yo, we buying gnosis right?
[2017-05-01 05:26:19] mark121 : most traders wont go over 20x with considerable monies
[2017-05-01 05:26:26] mark121 : many dont go over 10 even 5
[2017-05-01 05:26:27] rapidgains : im not touching it till it hits polo
[2017-05-01 05:26:43] XBT_Saver : mark121: you can't disable the leaderboard, you can only disable the display of your actual username no?
[2017-05-01 05:26:56] Trade : using 2.8-3x long, 5x short. Think I'm being too conservative long tho
[2017-05-01 05:27:00] mark121 : i dont know i dont use it lol
[2017-05-01 05:27:23] Trade : may be leaving profits on table
[2017-05-01 05:27:27] rugu : mark121: so those indicators that were buy signs for eth?
[2017-05-01 05:27:29] longbydefault : Trade: 3x using whole account?
[2017-05-01 05:27:32] mark121 : i recalled checking all boxes that increased privateness
[2017-05-01 05:27:35] mark121 : when u asked
[2017-05-01 05:27:48] mark121 : or when i commented rather
[2017-05-01 05:28:03] mark121 : rugu: its not one indicator
[2017-05-01 05:28:08] Trade : longbydefault: yes. I typically make 1 trade at a time only as well
[2017-05-01 05:28:12] mark121 : rugu: its the picture as a whole
[2017-05-01 05:28:13] XBT_Saver : just go to the page and see if you're highlighted
[2017-05-01 05:28:34] mark121 : based on users gloating
[2017-05-01 05:28:35] longbydefault : Trade: that's good... anything can happen... 3x is safe
[2017-05-01 05:28:42] mark121 : that they are on it with 75 btc profit
[2017-05-01 05:28:45] XBT_Saver : your codename I mean.
[2017-05-01 05:28:53] longbydefault : Trade: can't be too greedy
[2017-05-01 05:29:03] Trade : longbydefault: thx, ya. Just don't want that once twice a year big washout. lol
[2017-05-01 05:29:06] mark121 : i can verify that they wud be on there
[2017-05-01 05:29:21] mark121 : 2 atleast
[2017-05-01 05:29:38] brouk : longbydefault: its better not to go all in but entry at lets say 50% of account balance and then keep adding to position on dips (long) or highs (shorts)
[2017-05-01 05:29:40] Trade : shorting I feel less worried of a 30% surge in a matter of hours, vs. a 25-30% flash crash
[2017-05-01 05:29:41] longbydefault : Trade: as long as you're alive to trade in the next 3 yrs... its better to miss out on a few btc now
[2017-05-01 05:29:51] mark121 : il take a look next time i log in
[2017-05-01 05:29:55] mark121 : if i remember
[2017-05-01 05:30:08] Trade : longbydefault: yes, I'm thinking ... bankroll management. survival for those flash crashes
[2017-05-01 05:30:18] longbydefault : we're at the top now... so 3x is actually pretty high
[2017-05-01 05:30:33] Trade : well, I exit positions too when they turn sour
[2017-05-01 05:30:41] Trade : or hopefully b4, lol
[2017-05-01 05:31:01] Trade : it's just flash crashes, u know forcing a maintenance call
[2017-05-01 05:31:17] Trade : I trade on 3 hour candles, so ...
[2017-05-01 05:31:38] XBT_Saver : so how come you have several different accounts? @mark121
[2017-05-01 05:31:47] mark121 : i have atotal seperate ISP
[2017-05-01 05:31:55] mark121 : total seperate PC
[2017-05-01 05:32:12] XBT_Saver : Is each account for different alts?
[2017-05-01 05:32:20] Trade : some Exchanges frown upon, I guess BitMEX has nothing against multiple accounts TOS?
[2017-05-01 05:32:21] mark121 : no timeframes
[2017-05-01 05:32:25] mark121 : no, timeframes*