This is a mirror of the original BitMEX trollbox archive that used to be online here.
BitMEX disabled their archive after the DDOS attack so I have decided to make my mirror publicly available.

Well now, a few days after I made this mirror available to the public, the original archive from BitMEX is online again.
But since it is still limited (neutered to the last few hundred messages) I will keep my FULL mirror alive.

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[2017-04-30 20:44:14] EastIndiaCompany : hmmmYea: Ethereum has extreme scalability problems (much worse than bitcoin) and a huge attack surface which will prevent it from ever overtaking BTC
[2017-04-30 20:44:42] zecpumperIseeyou : I'm sure you don't know what you are talking about. Otherwise you wouldn't say such things.
[2017-04-30 20:45:01] EastIndiaCompany : zecpumperIseeyou: he's a flat earth consipracy theorist who blames all his failures in life on other people (the banks, the government, core)
[2017-04-30 20:45:08] sleger : BTC < 60% crypto market cap
[2017-04-30 20:45:20] EastIndiaCompany : sleger: not for long ;)
[2017-04-30 20:45:27] EastIndiaCompany : ETH is going to implode soon
[2017-04-30 20:45:37] sleger : *explode
[2017-04-30 20:45:37] zecpumperIseeyou : EastIndiaCompany: It's like they live for conspiracy theory, they can't get enough
[2017-04-30 20:45:53] bingbongfly : EastIndiaCompany: Yes I hope so too, everyone wants cheap Eth again
[2017-04-30 20:46:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `DASHM17`: sell 150 @ 0.072807
[2017-04-30 20:46:08] EastIndiaCompany : zecpumperIseeyou: Nah, it's more like denialism, they don't want to take responsibility for their own life.
[2017-04-30 20:46:23] jung1 : short time
[2017-04-30 20:46:27] EastIndiaCompany : bingbongfly: why, so you can sell it to a greater fool?
[2017-04-30 20:46:29] abbey : ready?
[2017-04-30 20:46:33] zecpumperIseeyou : EastIndiaCompany: Huh okay, another type of species then
[2017-04-30 20:47:22] biz : swap pushing for ATH
[2017-04-30 20:47:36] sleger : and yet its at a discount
[2017-04-30 20:47:39] sleger : weird times
[2017-04-30 20:48:08] EastIndiaCompany : bingbongfly: What you will find is that nobody need ETH. Even if Ethereum proves succesful using bitcoin instead of ETH would be more efficient. In fact, this is exactly what Rootstock (RSK) is, its Ethereum with a two way peg to bitcoin
[2017-04-30 20:49:48] bingbongfly : Yes duh
[2017-04-30 20:49:52] bingbongfly : i need it to bet
[2017-04-30 20:50:00] bingbongfly : without middlemen
[2017-04-30 20:50:38] bingbongfly : EastIndiaCompany: how do I bet without middlemen if not use Eth?
[2017-04-30 20:50:48] EastIndiaCompany : Bitcoin Hivemind
[2017-04-30 20:51:08] bingbongfly : Doesnt work
[2017-04-30 20:51:10] EastIndiaCompany : By the way truthcoin explains nicely in his blog why Augur and Gnosis can not work
[2017-04-30 20:51:26] bingbongfly : EastIndiaCompany: u dont need it, 6 can bet with only Eth smart contract
[2017-04-30 20:51:30] EastIndiaCompany : bingbongfly: not yet, but it's the only decentralized PM with competent people behind it
[2017-04-30 20:51:48] bingbongfly : EastIndiaCompany: exactly. Only ETH fill my needs
[2017-04-30 20:52:07] EastIndiaCompany : bingbongfly: multisig does that
[2017-04-30 20:52:18] EastIndiaCompany : bingbongfly: I bet you don't even know what multisig is
[2017-04-30 20:52:25] EastIndiaCompany : nobody does in Ethereum
[2017-04-30 20:52:32] EastIndiaCompany : otherwise they would not support Ethereum
[2017-04-30 20:53:18] jung1 : EastIndiaCompany: cant find that post about augur and gnosis. can you link it?
[2017-04-30 20:53:28] bingbongfly : EastIndiaCompany: no doesnt work
[2017-04-30 20:53:39] EastIndiaCompany : jung1: http://bitcoinhivemind.com/blog/case-against-augur/
[2017-04-30 20:53:49] jung1 : EastIndiaCompany: thanks
[2017-04-30 20:53:53] EastIndiaCompany : no prob
[2017-04-30 20:54:24] EastIndiaCompany : jung1: It's a bit technical so might take some time to read it
[2017-04-30 20:56:23] Ahhere : EastIndiaCompany: ur making me want to go all in on btc. whiskey and trollbox are a dangerous mix
[2017-04-30 20:56:28] L9 : /sentiment
[2017-04-30 20:56:31] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 20.79 / 79.21 Daily : 49.47 / 50.53 Weekly : 48.15 / 51.85 Monthly : 46.23 / 53.77```
[2017-04-30 20:57:05] EastIndiaCompany : Ahhere: hehe, don't take my words as investment advice. I just like to own these ether noobs
[2017-04-30 20:58:34] biz : short squeeze time
[2017-04-30 20:59:01] Hektor : gnom ?
[2017-04-30 20:59:02] biz : $2 from ATH on swap
[2017-04-30 20:59:20] abbey : biz: yep
[2017-04-30 20:59:25] biz : millions of contracts wont be in profit
[2017-04-30 20:59:31] biz : stops get hit
[2017-04-30 20:59:36] biz : margin calls
[2017-04-30 20:59:44] Ahhere : biz: its all about stamp 7$ to go
[2017-04-30 21:00:00] mbaril : ATH
[2017-04-30 21:00:03] Ahhere : someone go there and buy some cheap bertcoins
[2017-04-30 21:00:41] Ahhere : 100 btc to ath on stamp
[2017-04-30 21:01:16] Ahhere : /price
[2017-04-30 21:01:19] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1344.02 (0.70%) Bitfinex : 1429.80 (0.83%) OKCоin : 1284.61 (0.86%) itBit : 1351.36 (0.85%) Kraken : 1334.22 (-0.03%) GDAX : 1376.10 (1.13%) SLQ : 2 hours, 1 min, ```
[2017-04-30 21:03:27] mbaril : /help
[2017-04-30 21:03:27] trollbot : `/joke`: Shows a short joke from top reddit /r/jokes. `/suggest [TEXT]`: Send a suggestion to author of this bot. `/?` or `/help`: Shows list of commands and description. If you like this bot consider donating to 154DktRHXpiEjwQgJhdWWxw2rnNrHUo9wd
[2017-04-30 21:03:27] trollbot : `/price`: Shows last trade price of BTC/USD on all major exchanges. `/wall`: Shows ±$30 liquidity on OKCoin, Bitstamp, Bitflyer & Bitfinex `/sentiment`: Shows market sentiment in Sell/Buy ratio. `/rekt`: Shows margin call highlights of the day.
[2017-04-30 21:03:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHM17`: sell 1 @ 0.05955
[2017-04-30 21:03:42] mbaril : /wall
[2017-04-30 21:03:43] trollbot : ``` /wall is a paid command now! Pay 100 BTC to Farzad aka GOD.```
[2017-04-30 21:04:45] mbaril : /rekt
[2017-04-30 21:04:46] trollbot : ``` 3 recent REKTs > 100K: ``` ``` 3 hours, 35 mins ago: Liquidated short on `XRPM17`: buy 100000 @ 0.00004370 ``` ``` 21 hours, 12 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XRPM17`: sell 506000 @ 0.00004309 ``` ``` 22 hours, 56 mins ago: Liquidated short on `XRPM17`: buy 100000 @ 0.00004661 ```
[2017-04-30 21:05:13] abbey : omnomnom
[2017-04-30 21:05:56] mbaril : going to moon :P
[2017-04-30 21:06:24] wotan : strong btc from here lets see in the new week
[2017-04-30 21:06:25] Ahhere : oh snap abbeys here
[2017-04-30 21:06:25] bingbongfly : eth correction?
[2017-04-30 21:07:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 100 @ 1364.0
[2017-04-30 21:07:31] biz : SWAP
[2017-04-30 21:07:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTM17`: buy 233207 @ 1377.6 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire:
[2017-04-30 21:07:32] biz : STAMP
[2017-04-30 21:07:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTM17`: buy 300 @ 1376.6
[2017-04-30 21:07:33] L9 : /help
[2017-04-30 21:07:34] trollbot : `/joke`: Shows a short joke from top reddit /r/jokes. `/suggest [TEXT]`: Send a suggestion to author of this bot. `/?` or `/help`: Shows list of commands and description. If you like this bot consider donating to 154DktRHXpiEjwQgJhdWWxw2rnNrHUo9wd
[2017-04-30 21:07:34] trollbot : `/price`: Shows last trade price of BTC/USD on all major exchanges. `/wall`: Shows ±$30 liquidity on OKCoin, Bitstamp, Bitflyer & Bitfinex `/sentiment`: Shows market sentiment in Sell/Buy ratio. `/rekt`: Shows margin call highlights of the day.
[2017-04-30 21:07:35] biz : COIN?BASE
[2017-04-30 21:07:36] biz : omg
[2017-04-30 21:07:46] L9 : /rekt
[2017-04-30 21:07:46] trollbot : ``` 3 recent REKTs > 100K: ``` ``` < 1 min ago: Liquidated short on `XBTM17`: buy 233207 @ 1377.6 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire: ``` ``` 3 hours, 38 mins ago: Liquidated short on `XRPM17`: buy 100000 @ 0.00004370 ``` ``` 21 hours, 15 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XRPM17`: sell 506000 @ 0.00004309 ```
[2017-04-30 21:07:49] biz : quarterly big rekt
[2017-04-30 21:07:54] biz : should have longed quarterly. that is going to pop
[2017-04-30 21:08:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `DASHM17`: sell 1 @ 0.072397
[2017-04-30 21:08:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `DASHM17`: sell 2 @ 0.072389
[2017-04-30 21:08:30] biz : lol quarterly went down $20
[2017-04-30 21:08:35] biz : poor people who market dumped $20 lower
[2017-04-30 21:09:20] jung1 : so you guys are long now?
[2017-04-30 21:09:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 30 @ 1365.7
[2017-04-30 21:09:35] Ahhere : come on king btc
[2017-04-30 21:09:44] KyllingLolsson : Ok im bull now
[2017-04-30 21:09:47] NeoXx : jung1:yep
[2017-04-30 21:10:03] biz : pretty weak so far
[2017-04-30 21:10:07] biz : taps the ATH and stops
[2017-04-30 21:10:22] biz : there we go stamp. few more dollars
[2017-04-30 21:10:23] abbey : this is the gentlemen ive been tellin here fellas, enjoy btc bulls!
[2017-04-30 21:10:46] Ahhere : abbey: i knew you'd come through eventually
[2017-04-30 21:11:02] REKT : MOOON TIME!
[2017-04-30 21:11:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 12 @ 1367.2
[2017-04-30 21:11:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHM17`: sell 1 @ 0.05891
[2017-04-30 21:11:57] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 15032 @ 1367.7
[2017-04-30 21:11:57] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 80 @ 1367.6
[2017-04-30 21:11:57] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 6351 @ 1367.5
[2017-04-30 21:12:02] Ahhere : stamp beat ATH
[2017-04-30 21:12:09] biz : gdax too
[2017-04-30 21:12:12] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 127706 @ 1368.4 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:
[2017-04-30 21:12:15] KyllingLolsson : Damn
[2017-04-30 21:12:23] mbaril : this will never stop :p
[2017-04-30 21:12:27] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 3550 @ 1372.4
[2017-04-30 21:12:27] NeoXx : jesus imagine how many potential short rekts
[2017-04-30 21:12:40] mbaril : Lets push this to see them fall
[2017-04-30 21:13:21] biz : gdax hit $1394
[2017-04-30 21:14:17] mbaril : are we gonna hit 1380
[2017-04-30 21:14:37] Ahhere : /price
[2017-04-30 21:14:40] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1351.76 (0.58%) Bitfinex : 1437.50 (0.54%) OKCоin : 1288.03 (0.27%) itBit : 1361.98 (0.79%) Kraken : 1344.99 (0.81%) GDAX : 1386.99 (0.79%) SLQ : 13 mins```
[2017-04-30 21:15:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMRM17`: sell 12 @ 0.019043
[2017-04-30 21:16:05] Gr33d : 600,000 usd all that's stopping btc atm
[2017-04-30 21:16:20] biz : surprised stamp is acting so bearstamp right now
[2017-04-30 21:16:35] bingbongfly : nice bulltrap! Now eth another leg up
[2017-04-30 21:17:14] wotan : nice btc
[2017-04-30 21:17:32] mbaril : /price
[2017-04-30 21:17:34] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1353.10 (0.10%) Bitfinex : 1435.10 (-0.17%) OKCоin : 1288.20 (0.01%) itBit : 1363.13 (0.08%) Kraken : 1347.00 (0.15%) GDAX : 1386.70 (-0.02%) SLQ : 2 mins```
[2017-04-30 21:19:13] NeoXx : wall gone from stamp
[2017-04-30 21:19:20] Ahhere : lol someobody burning coin on stamp with market sells
[2017-04-30 21:19:24] biz : NeoXx: lol wow
[2017-04-30 21:19:38] bingbongfly : nice bounce on eth
[2017-04-30 21:20:11] Ahhere : best bit of action in weeks
[2017-04-30 21:20:31] rapidtrades : RIP abbey and goat
[2017-04-30 21:21:00] abbey : rapidtrades: why?
[2017-04-30 21:21:00] Ahhere : rapidtrades: what about the other moondaddies?
[2017-04-30 21:21:07] Ahhere : and how about your 1400 liquidation?
[2017-04-30 21:21:22] Apocalyptic : the moon is strong tonight
[2017-04-30 21:22:06] biz : bitmex_sam why is withdraw miner fee 0.003 or $4.05 ??
[2017-04-30 21:22:23] biz : 8400 unconfirmed transactions right now
[2017-04-30 21:22:35] rapidtrades : GOOD F*CKING QUESTION
[2017-04-30 21:23:02] jung1 : no buys here
[2017-04-30 21:23:26] jung1 : bitcoin is OBSOLETE
[2017-04-30 21:23:35] jung1 : #teamsepa
[2017-04-30 21:23:43] rapidtrades : hilarious to watch these ETH induced buys/sells
[2017-04-30 21:23:54] L9 : /sentiment
[2017-04-30 21:23:56] rapidtrades : bitcoin is ether's bitch
[2017-04-30 21:23:57] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 26.73 / 73.27 Daily : 48.45 / 51.55 Weekly : 48.00 / 52.00 Monthly : 46.19 / 53.81```
[2017-04-30 21:24:05] bingbongfly : team vitalik <3
[2017-04-30 21:24:09] Apocalyptic : rapidtrades: you got that wrong brah
[2017-04-30 21:24:09] bingbongfly : xD
[2017-04-30 21:24:14] Apocalyptic : it's the other way 'round
[2017-04-30 21:24:18] jung1 : I bought tons of ETC at $2.4
[2017-04-30 21:24:22] jung1 : wainting for $10
[2017-04-30 21:24:33] MikeHunt : i did say 1500 didnt i?
[2017-04-30 21:24:36] rapidtrades : jung1: gno?
[2017-04-30 21:24:36] biz : someone just needs to buy a bunch of BTC on stamp. market buy 100 BTC
[2017-04-30 21:24:48] jung1 : rapidtrades: also
[2017-04-30 21:24:57] rapidtrades : target?
[2017-04-30 21:24:59] jung1 : taas.fund as well
[2017-04-30 21:25:32] jung1 : rapidtrades: target of what?
[2017-04-30 21:25:36] rapidtrades : jung1: thank u for supporting our hypeconomy and god bless
[2017-04-30 21:25:43] rapidtrades : jung1: ur gno
[2017-04-30 21:26:19] Ahhere : biz: yep
[2017-04-30 21:26:47] jung1 : gno is way overhyped
[2017-04-30 21:27:10] rapidtrades : did u buy it or not
[2017-04-30 21:27:11] KingTuna : Agree
[2017-04-30 21:27:27] Poo : Like i said 1400 before 1200
[2017-04-30 21:27:35] Poo : Target prob 1450
[2017-04-30 21:27:38] biz : jung1: only 4x currently
[2017-04-30 21:28:00] rapidtrades : ppl need to stop saying like i said before it actually hits ur f*cking target
[2017-04-30 21:28:32] jung1 : ehhh bitcoin should go back to $500
[2017-04-30 21:28:35] rapidtrades : cos 1. noone cares 2, it hadnt hit it yet and may never do 3. NOONE CARES
[2017-04-30 21:28:35] bingbongfly : oh uh
[2017-04-30 21:28:39] Ahhere : biz: so xrp has a use case after all- for getting fiat on stamp quickly to market buy btc
[2017-04-30 21:28:48] mbaril : rapidtrades: what's your call ?
[2017-04-30 21:28:50] MikeHunt : rabidtrades
[2017-04-30 21:28:53] mbaril : I normally like your thinking
[2017-04-30 21:28:58] rapidtrades : 880
[2017-04-30 21:29:03] mbaril : :p
[2017-04-30 21:29:05] Poo : rapidtrades: mate chill out, itll hit it
[2017-04-30 21:29:18] MikeHunt : in a few years
[2017-04-30 21:29:34] rapidtrades : we were 10 away 1 month ago
[2017-04-30 21:29:39] Poo : Never going below a 1000 again you crazy?
[2017-04-30 21:29:50] MikeHunt : dont u wish u got out back then rapid?
[2017-04-30 21:29:55] rapidtrades : never? @Poo
[2017-04-30 21:30:04] Poo : rapidtrades: yup never
[2017-04-30 21:30:22] rapidtrades : alright
[2017-04-30 21:30:31] rapidtrades : Poo
[2017-04-30 21:30:46] rapidtrades : f*cking shit
[2017-04-30 21:30:57] Poo : Lol
[2017-04-30 21:31:04] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: why didnt u exit at 890 ?
[2017-04-30 21:31:14] Poo : dnno why you stil a bear
[2017-04-30 21:31:36] Ahhere : hes not a bear hes comic relief
[2017-04-30 21:31:39] sleger : "a bear market" he said
[2017-04-30 21:31:58] rapidtrades : many reasons which can be summed up into two succinct words
[2017-04-30 21:32:01] rapidtrades : f*ck you
[2017-04-30 21:32:05] Gr33d : Lol.
[2017-04-30 21:32:15] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: in other words u wish u had
[2017-04-30 21:32:25] Gr33d : Btc wont go bwloe 1200 now
[2017-04-30 21:32:33] Gr33d : below
[2017-04-30 21:32:34] rapidtrades : never?
[2017-04-30 21:32:34] Gr33d : lol
[2017-04-30 21:32:38] Poo : its a joke, to make money shorting crypto takea real skill not some false hope that something that works is going to somehow break
[2017-04-30 21:32:47] Gr33d : not for more than a matter of minutes...
[2017-04-30 21:32:54] Poo : Gr33d: i agree
[2017-04-30 21:32:55] rapidtrades : like ever?
[2017-04-30 21:33:16] Gr33d : Unless something extreme happened.
[2017-04-30 21:33:26] rapidtrades : pretty sure we're gonna see <500 at some point in next year
[2017-04-30 21:33:30] Gr33d : Until Bitcoin fades into obscurity
[2017-04-30 21:33:37] sleger : there's only one person who can make rapid buy now
[2017-04-30 21:33:38] biz : who are the idiots dumping on swap real low. bitmex full of noobs
[2017-04-30 21:33:39] Gr33d : That's at least 4+ year imo
[2017-04-30 21:33:45] rapidtrades : like within 12months
[2017-04-30 21:33:54] Poo : rapidtrades: below 1000 no way 1200 would be very hard to break, bitcoin would have to break
[2017-04-30 21:34:01] MikeHunt : biz: u long swap?
[2017-04-30 21:34:06] biz : yeah
[2017-04-30 21:34:09] rapidtrades : lol
[2017-04-30 21:34:12] MikeHunt : lol
[2017-04-30 21:34:13] Poo : Ws in break and not work anymorw
[2017-04-30 21:34:17] biz : trying to make more BTC before GNO goes live
[2017-04-30 21:34:19] biz : so i can long more GNO
[2017-04-30 21:34:23] rapidtrades : bish we could be below 1k tommorow
[2017-04-30 21:34:37] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: could be above 2k tomoz
[2017-04-30 21:34:45] rapidtrades : it takes 3 days on averages last 2 toimes
[2017-04-30 21:34:53] rapidtrades : MikeHunt: no we cant u twat
[2017-04-30 21:34:53] Poo : very unlikly we fo down very likly we go up
[2017-04-30 21:34:54] bingbongfly : everything could be 0 tomorrow
[2017-04-30 21:34:55] Poo : simple
[2017-04-30 21:35:10] rapidtrades : poo ur just an idiot
[2017-04-30 21:35:11] Poo : everyone could be dead tomorrow
[2017-04-30 21:35:22] itsme : /sentiment
[2017-04-30 21:35:22] bingbongfly : Poo: yup! Goodbye old friend <3
[2017-04-30 21:35:24] Gr33d : I can already feel a bear trap coming on... Imma be up all night again aren't I :l
[2017-04-30 21:35:24] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 29.39 / 70.61 Daily : 47.86 / 52.14 Weekly : 47.96 / 52.04 Monthly : 46.19 / 53.82```
[2017-04-30 21:35:25] Poo : your reasoning is stupid
[2017-04-30 21:36:06] rapidtrades : im a f*cking genius and my thinking is genius
[2017-04-30 21:36:08] Poo : Tbh i dont want brc to go to the moon
[2017-04-30 21:36:38] Poo : i want to accumulate like mang others
[2017-04-30 21:37:31] Ahhere : accumulation phase has passed for normal ppl
[2017-04-30 21:38:05] Poo : Nah im getting messages from people wanting to get in
[2017-04-30 21:38:11] bingbongfly : im just jelly of ppl 20+
[2017-04-30 21:38:13] bingbongfly : who worked
[2017-04-30 21:38:14] Poo : Recently
[2017-04-30 21:38:16] bingbongfly : and had money to invest
[2017-04-30 21:38:33] bingbongfly : us youngsters don't really have a bigcapital to work with
[2017-04-30 21:38:49] bingbongfly : my % gain is huge, but actual dollars is meh
[2017-04-30 21:39:10] Ahhere : we're now in the 'i could have bought a whole bitcoin phase'
[2017-04-30 21:39:38] Gr33d : bingbongfly: same
[2017-04-30 21:39:49] Poo : Ahhere: if thats true rapid is correct and we will see sub 1000 levels again
[2017-04-30 21:39:49] bingbongfly : Gr33d: feelsbadman
[2017-04-30 21:40:17] Ahhere : huh @Poo
[2017-04-30 21:41:41] Ahhere : its already too expensive for most people to afford a single bitcoin i suppose
[2017-04-30 21:41:55] Poo : Ahhere: people are acumilating bitcoin around the world in small amounts, look at local bitcoin volumes. Those are not traders buying
[2017-04-30 21:42:36] Poo : buying 0.01 bitcoin is not expensive, a 1000 satoshis is pretty cheap
[2017-04-30 21:42:38] bingbongfly : Ahhere: 1st world people can still afford, but many can't. And most are still blind
[2017-04-30 21:42:57] Ahhere : yeah you right @Poo
[2017-04-30 21:43:01] rapidtrades : u want to accumulate? go here https://www.bitmex.com/app/trade/GNOM17
[2017-04-30 21:43:07] Ahhere : bingbongfly: 7 in 10 americans have less than 1k in savings
[2017-04-30 21:43:39] bingbongfly : Ahhere: america is not 1st world
[2017-04-30 21:43:47] rapidtrades : there are no americans here tho, so f*ck ur stats
[2017-04-30 21:43:51] bingbongfly : its a developing country ;)
[2017-04-30 21:43:57] Poo : Ahhere: because they chose to buy a new car or new bag instead of investing
[2017-04-30 21:44:18] Ahhere : true @Poo fuking sucks
[2017-04-30 21:45:23] rapidtrades : @jung1 so did u buy gno or not
[2017-04-30 21:47:01] Ahhere : hell gno is my advice
[2017-04-30 21:47:20] robit : any admins here?
[2017-04-30 21:47:36] rapidtrades : robit: https://www.bitmex.com/app/trade/GNOM17
[2017-04-30 21:47:40] rapidtrades : ^ go there
[2017-04-30 21:47:40] jung1 : rapidtrades: yeah but only like $500 worth
[2017-04-30 21:47:47] rapidtrades : wtf gtfo
[2017-04-30 21:47:51] rapidtrades : ur no shitcoin trader
[2017-04-30 21:48:31] rapidtrades : i wiped my ass with $500 earlier
[2017-04-30 21:48:39] jung1 : I am load with etc, golem, factom, ltc, decred, and ripple
[2017-04-30 21:49:04] rapidtrades : ltc....di
[2017-04-30 21:50:18] jung1 : I bought ltc at 0.45
[2017-04-30 21:52:11] jung1 : I am thinking of running some kind of blockchain focused investment fund on ethereum.
[2017-04-30 21:52:18] jung1 : with shares and stuff
[2017-04-30 21:56:05] EastIndiaCompany : jung1: why do you need ethereum to do that?
[2017-04-30 21:57:31] sleger : cause ethereum is awesome
[2017-04-30 21:57:46] sleger : and it will grow much more
[2017-04-30 21:57:59] sleger : no the real question is why you need jung1 to buy shitcoins
[2017-04-30 21:58:33] EastIndiaCompany : sleger: can you name one useful thing you can do with ETH that can't be done by BTC?
[2017-04-30 21:58:34] hmmmYea : sleger: what if you have investment strategy dependent on slow block times and high transaction fees?
[2017-04-30 21:59:09] bingbongfly : EastIndiaCompany: bet without middleman
[2017-04-30 21:59:11] hmmmYea : EastIndiaCompany: predictable confirmation times
[2017-04-30 21:59:19] hmmmYea : non-toxic community
[2017-04-30 21:59:23] bingbongfly : burnt xD
[2017-04-30 21:59:23] EastIndiaCompany : bingbongfly: P2SH does that already told you
[2017-04-30 21:59:29] bingbongfly : EastIndiaCompany: Nope it doesnt
[2017-04-30 21:59:37] Ahhere : EastIndiaCompany: what u think of etc
[2017-04-30 21:59:39] bingbongfly : EastIndiaCompany: Name one useful think btc does that eth doesnt do
[2017-04-30 21:59:41] hmmmYea : smart contracts
[2017-04-30 21:59:48] Apocalyptic : bingbongfly: easy one
[2017-04-30 21:59:51] hmmmYea : loops
[2017-04-30 21:59:58] bingbongfly : hmmmYea: duh my rootstok
[2017-04-30 22:00:01] EastIndiaCompany : Ahhere: ETC is as useless as ETH
[2017-04-30 22:00:04] bingbongfly : Apocalyptic: doubt it
[2017-04-30 22:00:10] Apocalyptic : finiteness of monetary supply for one
[2017-04-30 22:00:16] hmmmYea : bingbongfly: imsticking to real things
[2017-04-30 22:00:27] EastIndiaCompany : hmmmYea: Node.js does loops and you don't even need gas!
[2017-04-30 22:00:29] hmmmYea : not monopolized by asics?
[2017-04-30 22:01:08] bingbongfly : Apocalyptic: nah, china will print more
[2017-04-30 22:01:11] hmmmYea : trustless escrow for peer to peer onchain trades
[2017-04-30 22:01:31] EastIndiaCompany : hmmmYea: atomic swaps does that...
[2017-04-30 22:01:33] Apocalyptic : bingbongfly: wut
[2017-04-30 22:01:50] Apocalyptic : you mean they will HF to break that consensus rule ?
[2017-04-30 22:01:51] hmmmYea : EastIndiaCompany: you keep talking about all this imaginary shit that will never happen
[2017-04-30 22:01:51] bingbongfly : Apocalyptic: just fork the chain, since they have monopoly they can just use another chain
[2017-04-30 22:01:52] sleger : EastIndiaCompany: just one ? http://www.trustnodes.com/2017/04/29/germanys-energy-giant-launches-100s-ethereum-based-electric-cars-charging-stations
[2017-04-30 22:01:54] Apocalyptic : good luck with that
[2017-04-30 22:01:58] EastIndiaCompany : hmmmYea: You can't name a single useful thing ETH can do, that isn't already more efficiently solved by Bitcoin
[2017-04-30 22:02:12] bingbongfly : EastIndiaCompany: same goes the other way lol
[2017-04-30 22:02:15] sleger : transfer money in 5 minutes ?
[2017-04-30 22:02:20] sleger : can you do that with btc ?
[2017-04-30 22:02:21] Apocalyptic : bingbongfly: see how Jihan's PR is working out so far
[2017-04-30 22:02:22] hmmmYea : EastIndiaCompany: literally completely untrue
[2017-04-30 22:02:26] hmmmYea : cheap transactions
[2017-04-30 22:02:30] EastIndiaCompany : sleger: Except they don't need Ethereum for that, Apache would have been cheaper
[2017-04-30 22:02:32] jung1 : EastIndiaCompany: to make it easier and more transparent for pay dividents
[2017-04-30 22:02:41] sleger : EastIndiaCompany: transfer money in 5 min ?
[2017-04-30 22:02:50] jung1 : and its alreaty hype on eth so bigger chance rof succesful ICO
[2017-04-30 22:02:51] Ahhere : EastIndiaCompany: what about segwit?
[2017-04-30 22:02:54] EastIndiaCompany : jung1: You can do that with BTC as well
[2017-04-30 22:02:58] bob12 : "money"
[2017-04-30 22:03:13] hmmmYea : EastIndiaCompany: state channels with current network protocol
[2017-04-30 22:03:31] EastIndiaCompany : sleger: you can transfer money instantly with BTC using nLocktime + multisig (create a payment channel)
[2017-04-30 22:03:35] sleger : make a transaction without spending 1$
[2017-04-30 22:03:37] jeeburns : etc getting bought up way up here, can't fathom how that plays out risk vs reward but good luck
[2017-04-30 22:03:57] sleger : secure a network without wasting energy
[2017-04-30 22:04:03] hmmmYea : sleger: ahahahaha
[2017-04-30 22:04:04] sleger : there's just so many answers
[2017-04-30 22:04:24] hmmmYea : sleger: he thinks there has been proof published that makes proof of stake impossible
[2017-04-30 22:04:30] EastIndiaCompany : sleger: PoS can't work
[2017-04-30 22:04:40] sleger : lol
[2017-04-30 22:04:42] bob12 : pos is unproven by far
[2017-04-30 22:04:54] Nutella : +1
[2017-04-30 22:05:03] Nutella : POS is a disaster
[2017-04-30 22:05:07] sleger : for those who dont understand its unproven
[2017-04-30 22:05:10] sleger : and always will be
[2017-04-30 22:05:14] EastIndiaCompany : Ahhere: SegWit is a great innovation, but I think it will take a long time before it's active on mainnet
[2017-04-30 22:05:15] hmmmYea : but does not realize the paper only took issue with a version of proof of stake that has also been disregarded by the ethereum community
[2017-04-30 22:05:16] sleger : even when its used by many
[2017-04-30 22:05:18] bingbongfly : but its good for enviroment
[2017-04-30 22:05:19] Nutella : sleger is clueless techie
[2017-04-30 22:05:20] sleger : alternative reality ?
[2017-04-30 22:05:23] bingbongfly : BTC is a eco-killer
[2017-04-30 22:05:32] sleger : Nutella: dude you're just breakfast food
[2017-04-30 22:05:33] bingbongfly : until we get 100% green energy
[2017-04-30 22:05:42] bingbongfly : BTC is a disgrace
[2017-04-30 22:05:44] hmmmYea : the real problem is that bitcoin is subject to two devastating attacks
[2017-04-30 22:05:49] bob12 : everything is an eco killer. depends on how much value it brings to society
[2017-04-30 22:05:52] Nutella : im not a dude
[2017-04-30 22:05:52] hmmmYea : asic economies of scale centralize mining
[2017-04-30 22:05:55] EastIndiaCompany : hmmmYea: what devastating attacks?
[2017-04-30 22:06:00] Ahhere : bingbongfly: have to agree on the energy waste
[2017-04-30 22:06:03] Nutella : stop pumping ur worthless coins here sleger
[2017-04-30 22:06:03] EastIndiaCompany : hmmmYea: So you don't understand mining
[2017-04-30 22:06:12] sleger : Nutella: please shhh
[2017-04-30 22:06:18] hmmmYea : and that miners can be bribed with negative pool fees
[2017-04-30 22:06:24] Trade : is there any way to block certain users from our chat window here? the shills and trolls?
[2017-04-30 22:06:37] Ahhere : Trade: it would be silent
[2017-04-30 22:06:37] sleger : bitcoin is controled by 3 chinese miners, good luck with decentralization anything
[2017-04-30 22:06:42] bingbongfly : Trade: I wish
[2017-04-30 22:06:46] dodic : Trade: Who would be left?
[2017-04-30 22:06:46] Trade : ya
[2017-04-30 22:07:00] Trade : well, up to each user to set their own filter would be nice
[2017-04-30 22:07:02] EastIndiaCompany : sleger: It doesn't matter if mining is centralized (it will always tend to centralization) as long as the protocol is decentralized
[2017-04-30 22:07:10] hmmmYea : EastIndiaCompany: hahahahaha
[2017-04-30 22:07:15] sleger : disagree
[2017-04-30 22:07:23] hmmmYea : this isnt real life
[2017-04-30 22:07:24] Trade : rapid is fucking annoying
[2017-04-30 22:07:35] EastIndiaCompany : hmmmYea: You don't even know how mining works is my guess, what do miners do?
[2017-04-30 22:08:03] Ahhere : Trade: its better than polo. best is to press the minimize button every once in a while
[2017-04-30 22:08:16] zqooN : Trade: a while back the bitmex team was talking about updates of the chat that might include just such a feature
[2017-04-30 22:08:20] sleger : miners waste energy
[2017-04-30 22:08:30] EastIndiaCompany : sleger: jesus, you are dumb
[2017-04-30 22:08:31] Trade : zqooN: thanks. would be nice feature
[2017-04-30 22:08:33] sleger : until people switch to eth
[2017-04-30 22:08:35] hmmmYea : EastIndiaCompany: pretty familiar with the topic my firend
[2017-04-30 22:08:46] zqooN : Trade: sure indeed
[2017-04-30 22:08:46] sleger : india and nutella are so clueless
[2017-04-30 22:08:48] EastIndiaCompany : hmmmYea: tell me in one sentence, what do miners do?
[2017-04-30 22:08:51] Apocalyptic : Trade: rapid's one the best
[2017-04-30 22:08:57] Apocalyptic : trading indicators
[2017-04-30 22:09:01] sleger : they havent been around for long, so hopefully they rekt soon
[2017-04-30 22:09:11] hmmmYea : EastIndiaCompany: gfy
[2017-04-30 22:09:31] EastIndiaCompany : hmmmYea: Your monkey brain fried?
[2017-04-30 22:09:39] EastIndiaCompany : lol donkey
[2017-04-30 22:09:48] Trade : BTC energy usage is nothing compared to Government Fiat wastes and abuses
[2017-04-30 22:09:58] hmmmYea : just not going to entertain your childish games
[2017-04-30 22:10:02] EastIndiaCompany : hmmmYea: You don't even know how mining works
[2017-04-30 22:10:05] sleger : eth will also solve those @Trade
[2017-04-30 22:10:15] Trade : not sure I trust POS
[2017-04-30 22:10:20] Trade : it's interesting tho
[2017-04-30 22:10:20] hmmmYea : EastIndiaCompany: i think you mistaken... i dont really care whether you think i know or not
[2017-04-30 22:10:30] hmmmYea : there's a difference
[2017-04-30 22:10:32] EastIndiaCompany : hmmmYea: if you knew you would just say, but you don't
[2017-04-30 22:10:39] EastIndiaCompany : hmmmYea: Because you're clueless
[2017-04-30 22:10:40] hmmmYea : EastIndiaCompany: im not 13 years old
[2017-04-30 22:10:55] EastIndiaCompany : hmmmYea: what is P2SH?
[2017-04-30 22:11:05] alfaCharlie : Launch Ethmex our energy problems will be solved.
[2017-04-30 22:11:14] bingbongfly : EastIndiaCompany: its a dream
[2017-04-30 22:11:26] hmmmYea : EastIndiaCompany: we've established that im not playing quizbowl for you.
[2017-04-30 22:11:36] EastIndiaCompany : bingbongfly: it is already active, since 2013, deployed by UASF
[2017-04-30 22:11:37] bob12 : mining can be centralized because they work at behest of users. if userbase is decentralized they are free to put miners out of business. not the other way around
[2017-04-30 22:11:48] bingbongfly : EastIndiaCompany: It got abandon 2014 by CIA
[2017-04-30 22:12:00] EastIndiaCompany : hmmmYea: You know absolutely nothiing about bitcoin, you're going to delete all your money
[2017-04-30 22:12:28] hmmmYea : EastIndiaCompany: good one. couldnt handle the real arguments... so you're getting personal ina trollbox
[2017-04-30 22:12:46] hmmmYea : feel free to go back on topic whenever you cool down
[2017-04-30 22:12:54] EastIndiaCompany : hmmmYea: You're the one making a fool of yourself, I'm just calling you out on it
[2017-04-30 22:13:15] hmmmYea : EastIndiaCompany: by being indifferent to your opinion of my bitcoin knowledge?
[2017-04-30 22:13:17] hmmmYea : really?
[2017-04-30 22:13:41] sleger : india, i think people realize you're the clown here
[2017-04-30 22:14:56] Nutella : sleger is a joke
[2017-04-30 22:15:05] hmmmYea : EastIndiaCompany: bitcoin maximalists want to have their cake and eat it too. 1. bitcoin is the most secure coin bc PoW 2. bitmain is a threat to all of bitcoinopia 3. roger ver is a threat to all of bitcointopia
[2017-04-30 22:15:05] robit : what happens to the altcoin futures if polo crashes/exit scams/goes down?
[2017-04-30 22:15:09] EastIndiaCompany : he's completely clueless
[2017-04-30 22:15:13] Nutella : he lies being rich yet has no car
[2017-04-30 22:15:28] Apocalyptic : robit: longs get rekt
[2017-04-30 22:16:02] hmmmYea : all 3 cant be true at the same time
[2017-04-30 22:16:34] hmmmYea : and when you spend all your time saying #1 is true, no one gives an f about fixing the real problems
[2017-04-30 22:16:34] sleger : Nutella: i own no car
[2017-04-30 22:16:42] EastIndiaCompany : hmmmYea: 1 is somewhat true, bitcoin also has the largest network effect
[2017-04-30 22:16:43] sleger : yet im up 7 digits in pnl year to date
[2017-04-30 22:16:48] sleger : does that make me poor dummy >
[2017-04-30 22:16:50] sleger : ?
[2017-04-30 22:17:03] hmmmYea : so little by little the use cases of bitcoin are reduced to something so tiny it is unimportant
[2017-04-30 22:17:03] sleger : why would i own a car in london ?
[2017-04-30 22:17:51] hmmmYea : EastIndiaCompany: but it doesnt. it just has the biggest market cap
[2017-04-30 22:17:52] Ahhere : sleger: to make noise and race up and down mayfair at night obviously duh!
[2017-04-30 22:18:25] sleger : and be thrown water bottles at you ?
[2017-04-30 22:18:33] EastIndiaCompany : hmmmYea: You're too dumb sorry, I'm going to ignore you now
[2017-04-30 22:18:35] hmmmYea : if bitcoin had a dominant network effect, projects wouldnt raise money on ethereum
[2017-04-30 22:18:52] Apocalyptic : hmmmYea: having a deflationary trustless commodity is unimportant ?
[2017-04-30 22:18:56] hmmmYea : EastIndiaCompany: ill give you a minute to cool down, so you can talk without the personal attacks
[2017-04-30 22:19:00] sleger : Ahhere: also exotic rentals for a weekend are quite cheap here
[2017-04-30 22:19:57] Ahhere : sleger: yeah I know i love watching those jokers do 20 meter stunts for the ladies lol
[2017-04-30 22:20:20] hmmmYea : Apocalyptic: i dont think bitcoin is worthless. its just not as useful as ethereum.
[2017-04-30 22:20:38] hmmmYea : Apocalyptic: im only anti-maximalism... not anti-bitcoin
[2017-04-30 22:20:51] hmmmYea : also very anti-core dominance in bitcoin
[2017-04-30 22:21:03] bingbongfly : Im quite the same
[2017-04-30 22:21:12] bingbongfly : pretty happy about it too since the profit has been bigger
[2017-04-30 22:21:19] bingbongfly : the last three years
[2017-04-30 22:21:34] Ahhere : everybody sick of the stalemate
[2017-04-30 22:21:43] bob12 : hmmmYea: conversely. with all the groundwork that has been laid by bitcoin, if eth was useful it should have had a succesful project by now
[2017-04-30 22:22:07] bingbongfly : I'd love for a new coin to come out
[2017-04-30 22:22:13] bingbongfly : anyone have a good tip?
[2017-04-30 22:22:18] bingbongfly : I mean a really good coin
[2017-04-30 22:22:43] bingbongfly : like cure cancer end hunger type of coin
[2017-04-30 22:22:44] Apocalyptic : if you mean ethereum can have a broader use case then sure, but I wouldn't measure usefull by the variety of purposes it fulfills
[2017-04-30 22:23:10] Apocalyptic : *usefullness
[2017-04-30 22:23:22] Ahhere : the 'best' coins now are designed now to be perfect pumps @bingbongfly pivx is piggybacking on dash's pump skills for example
[2017-04-30 22:23:57] Ahhere : fixing the percieved flaws
[2017-04-30 22:25:02] hmmmYea : bob12: i dont think thats true... but i cant say 100% you are wrong.
[2017-04-30 22:25:31] bingbongfly : Ahhere: Well, I mean best in useful not in amount of profit I can get
[2017-04-30 22:25:52] Ahhere : well its the same to a degree
[2017-04-30 22:25:53] hmmmYea : bob12: i think its more likely that someone will iterate on ethereum, and that will be adopted mainstream, than ethereum will lose out to a basiccoin
[2017-04-30 22:26:21] Ahhere : bingbongfly: you did say tip
[2017-04-30 22:28:18] bob12 : hmmmYea: yeah. switching to POS changes everything. and now its hybrid, and later its a new marketcap. eth is behaving like an idea sandbox, which is nice, but has sand as foundation. people are throwing billions on a system that hasnt even decided its own processing algorithm yet
[2017-04-30 22:32:37] pasa : Hi Somebody know how delevrage works?
[2017-04-30 22:32:42] hmmmYea : owning the sandbox seems like a good bet
[2017-04-30 22:32:55] sleger : when you have all the biggest world companies behind it ....
[2017-04-30 22:33:16] bob12 : they were behind r3 and hyper as well. didnt help
[2017-04-30 22:33:50] bob12 : they are scared. jumping at whatever sounds like the newest disruptive tech
[2017-04-30 22:34:23] sleger : i see it as a bigger commitment
[2017-04-30 22:34:37] sleger : r3 wasnt a chain also
[2017-04-30 22:34:57] Ahhere : has to be asked why are the banks so anti bitcoin?
[2017-04-30 22:35:07] bob12 : sure but we're splitting hairs now. btc continues to show value
[2017-04-30 22:35:25] bob12 : because bitcoin disrupts them. everything else is just tech. bitcoin is financial
[2017-04-30 22:35:57] bob12 : they want tech. not that
[2017-04-30 22:36:02] Ahhere : exactly it cant be controlled
[2017-04-30 22:36:19] sleger : Ahhere: why banks are anti bitcoin ? seems quite obvious
[2017-04-30 22:36:27] Ahhere : yeah i kno
[2017-04-30 22:36:29] sleger : controled by chinese miners
[2017-04-30 22:36:31] sleger : drugs
[2017-04-30 22:36:33] sleger : anarchists
[2017-04-30 22:36:41] hmmmYea : and core
[2017-04-30 22:36:48] Ahhere : eth got listed on alphabay
[2017-04-30 22:36:50] bob12 : eg : the world
[2017-04-30 22:37:25] sleger : Ahhere: most drug sellers use fiat, yet banks didnt ban fiats
[2017-04-30 22:37:34] sleger : but the main usage for btc is drugs
[2017-04-30 22:37:38] sleger : and other illegal stuff
[2017-04-30 22:37:39] Ahhere : i know the drug thing is a red herring its about control
[2017-04-30 22:37:43] sleger : and hiding wealth
[2017-04-30 22:37:46] bob12 : the fuck you going to ban your own product??
[2017-04-30 22:38:43] MikeHunt : i thought they were phasing out btc for drugs
[2017-04-30 22:38:48] MikeHunt : using XMR etc.
[2017-04-30 22:39:02] Ahhere : its still 90%+ btc
[2017-04-30 22:39:11] Ahhere : i heard
[2017-04-30 22:39:16] Ahhere : _looks around_
[2017-04-30 22:39:20] MikeHunt : lol
[2017-04-30 22:39:26] MikeHunt : police can track btc
[2017-04-30 22:39:26] sleger : anyways, banks will never be behind bitcoin unless things change hugely, it wont
[2017-04-30 22:39:41] bob12 : no reason to change. they arent getting caught
[2017-04-30 22:39:47] Ahhere : same way record labels werent behind limewire
[2017-04-30 22:41:32] sleger : i know the guy who founded limewire
[2017-04-30 22:42:04] Ahhere : cool is he broke
[2017-04-30 22:42:11] sleger : no he is super rich
[2017-04-30 22:42:17] sleger : he is the owner of tower, the HFT firm
[2017-04-30 22:42:19] Ahhere : not in jail or sthn?
[2017-04-30 22:42:23] sleger : he paid a fine
[2017-04-30 22:42:32] Ahhere : oh nice must be a smart guy
[2017-04-30 22:42:58] sleger : and he doesnt own a car either
[2017-04-30 22:43:16] sleger : so im sure nutella would call him broke too
[2017-04-30 22:44:09] Ahhere : fuking bus wanker!!