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<< >> English 中文 Русский 한국어 日本語 Español Français [2015-12-02 14:30:37] zanza : podizzler3k_: rofl [2015-12-02 14:30:45] rapidtrades : he's an idiot, he was pumping altcoins for years [2015-12-02 14:30:45] jung1 : but he made a lot of money in '13'14 on altcoin pumps [2015-12-02 14:30:46] zanza : jung1: what website is that ? [2015-12-02 14:30:59] rapidtrades : jung1: exactly [2015-12-02 14:30:59] podizzler3k_ : yeah pumps that he personally orchestrated using social media campaigns [2015-12-02 14:31:12] rapidtrades : if he did this in other markets he would be in jail [2015-12-02 14:31:17] podizzler3k_ : hes a pump and dump pioneer [2015-12-02 14:31:19] podizzler3k_ : its not other markets [2015-12-02 14:31:25] jung1 : zanza: http://facesofrekt.austeritysucks.com/index.php?id=9 [2015-12-02 14:31:48] rapidtrades : ok I'll give him that, he's good at fooling ppl but he's no trader [2015-12-02 14:31:53] podizzler3k_ : there is not ethics in trading a free market [2015-12-02 14:32:00] jung1 : yep [2015-12-02 14:32:01] podizzler3k_ : only ethics in what you do with the profits [2015-12-02 14:32:05] jung1 : this is how free market works [2015-12-02 14:32:31] messiaen8844 : yes, if market things it is wrong ,it corrects, really fast [2015-12-02 14:32:33] podizzler3k_ : do you think a pro poker player lays down his hand because he feels bad about bluffing the other guy? [2015-12-02 14:32:35] messiaen8844 : but there's resistance here [2015-12-02 14:32:56] jung1 : he made thousands of bitcoins on that pumps [2015-12-02 14:33:00] justinlooking : hello troops [2015-12-02 14:33:02] rapidtrades : podizzler3k_: that's not the same, he all know the rules befoer the game starts [2015-12-02 14:33:05] justinlooking : is the rally really back on? [2015-12-02 14:33:19] messiaen8844 : no [2015-12-02 14:33:20] rapidtrades : justinlooking: no stupid [2015-12-02 14:33:24] podizzler3k_ : everyone that participated in a fontas pump did so willingly [2015-12-02 14:33:27] jung1 : bitcoin is dead [2015-12-02 14:33:28] podizzler3k_ : they knew the game [2015-12-02 14:33:37] podizzler3k_ : you sell before everyone else does or youre rekt [2015-12-02 14:33:40] jung1 : podizzler3k_: mcxnow ftw [2015-12-02 14:33:44] jung1 : whoop whoop [2015-12-02 14:33:49] rapidtrades : podizzler3k_: doesn;t make it less wrong....exploiting ppl is still bad [2015-12-02 14:33:53] justinlooking : mcxnow? [2015-12-02 14:33:58] messiaen8844 : hit my target by the exact CNY, now we see if there's stronger reversal [2015-12-02 14:34:32] jung1 : justinlooking: yeah old altcoin exchange wrote in c++ [2015-12-02 14:34:33] podizzler3k_ : rapidtrades where do you think the money comes from when you profit? [2015-12-02 14:34:36] podizzler3k_ : the magic money fairy? [2015-12-02 14:34:46] podizzler3k_ : youre exploiting the weakness in other traders strategies [2015-12-02 14:34:55] podizzler3k_ : whether you believe it or not [2015-12-02 14:35:24] rapidtrades : podizzler3k_: it;s not the same, anyway let's watch the market [2015-12-02 14:35:40] podizzler3k_ : trading bitcoin in itself would be unethical by your definition because the market is clearly manipulated [2015-12-02 14:35:45] podizzler3k_ : and thats 'just not right' [2015-12-02 14:36:02] habibi : show me market without manipulation [2015-12-02 14:36:10] habibi : or whatever how u consider "market manipulation"? [2015-12-02 14:37:22] messiaen8844 : if you engage in altcoin trading you know the risks [2015-12-02 14:37:37] jung1 : now theres not a lot of altcoin pumps. Instead there are croudfunding actions with only idea and whitepaper [2015-12-02 14:37:52] jung1 : theycollect a lot of bitcoins this way [2015-12-02 14:37:57] habibi : shit, i made too op liquid for my e cigarrete [2015-12-02 14:38:25] jung1 : biggest altocin pumpers imop was fontas and kaiser [2015-12-02 14:38:26] habibi : too much nicotine [2015-12-02 14:38:40] habibi : kaiser wasnt the real pumper, he was marketer [2015-12-02 14:39:05] jung1 : startcoin, and that litecoin pump do %50 [2015-12-02 14:39:12] jung1 : $50 [2015-12-02 14:39:15] jung1 : it was him [2015-12-02 14:39:37] habibi : startcoin - he made great hype before coin really started [2015-12-02 14:39:41] habibi : and he choose good timing [2015-12-02 14:39:55] habibi : that was deadcat bounce from early start - startcoin :p [2015-12-02 14:40:14] podizzler3k_ : i made some good money renting hash to mine startcoin [2015-12-02 14:40:20] jung1 : yeah but when it start it hits like 0.5btc [2015-12-02 14:40:21] podizzler3k_ : on the first day of trading [2015-12-02 14:41:05] jung1 : crazy days [2015-12-02 14:41:21] justinlooking : what's the rapidicator currently saying? [2015-12-02 14:41:41] podizzler3k_ : wow what a great deal $364 for 4000 contracts. i'd buy that if it wasnt my sell order ;) [2015-12-02 14:41:49] podizzler3k_ : probably gonna pull it in 10 seconds [2015-12-02 14:41:49] messiaen8844 : he was shorting on weekly, when I knew I had to long [2015-12-02 14:42:02] messiaen8844 : *then [2015-12-02 14:42:14] podizzler3k_ : dammit [2015-12-02 14:42:29] zanza : podizzler3k_: are you advertising [2015-12-02 14:42:36] zanza : your own orders? [2015-12-02 14:42:37] podizzler3k_ : whaaaaaaaaaaaaaat? [2015-12-02 14:42:47] podizzler3k_ : i dont know what to say to that kind of accusation [2015-12-02 14:43:13] zanza : ill buy it if you post a youtube video of you signing "Gangdam Style" [2015-12-02 14:43:25] messiaen8844 : you are being accused of trade in an exchange? [2015-12-02 14:43:30] justinlooking : lol do it1 [2015-12-02 14:43:32] messiaen8844 : manipulation by trollbox lol? [2015-12-02 14:43:39] messiaen8844 : (sometimes it works) [2015-12-02 14:43:40] podizzler3k_ : it works for btc-e [2015-12-02 14:43:49] podizzler3k_ : unfortunately i dont think the retardation level is quite as high here [2015-12-02 14:43:52] zanza : lmao [2015-12-02 14:44:11] podizzler3k_ : i managed to get btc-e into a frenzy about litecoin going on gox one time, then i did a huge market buy and whipsawed the fuck out of everyone [2015-12-02 14:44:20] podizzler3k_ : it was probably my finest moment [2015-12-02 14:44:34] zanza : u dirty dog [2015-12-02 14:44:36] rapidtrades : podizzler3k_: wow... [2015-12-02 14:44:37] messiaen8844 : 2330 is such an interesting support, it keeps coming back [2015-12-02 14:44:38] podizzler3k_ : fontas would have been proud [2015-12-02 14:44:53] messiaen8844 : market couldn't deny it much [2015-12-02 14:45:58] podizzler3k_ : speaking of whipsaw, bitcoin looking a little whipsawwy atm [2015-12-02 14:46:22] rapidtrades : podizzler3k_: I don't trust a word u say now [2015-12-02 14:46:33] podizzler3k_ : why would you to begin with [2015-12-02 14:46:47] messiaen8844 : I only trust the kazakhistan guy here [2015-12-02 14:46:50] podizzler3k_ : tbh i am honest [2015-12-02 14:46:52] messiaen8844 : because he is friends with Borat [2015-12-02 14:47:11] podizzler3k_ : who USER_1? [2015-12-02 14:47:17] podizzler3k_ : hes a fiesty fellow [2015-12-02 14:47:42] messiaen8844 : yes [2015-12-02 14:47:55] podizzler3k_ : btw i wont sing gangham style but i will sing 'i get it from my daddy' [2015-12-02 14:48:00] podizzler3k_ : that video cracks me up [2015-12-02 14:48:46] jung1 : who can make 2x2 charts like old.whaleclub? [2015-12-02 14:48:55] zanza : podizzler3k_: ok link pls [2015-12-02 14:49:08] j8 : jung1: i got somethin for ya [2015-12-02 14:50:04] podizzler3k_ : PSY - DADDY(feat. CL of 2NE1) M/V https://youtu.be/FrG4TEcSuRg via @YouTube [2015-12-02 14:51:50] podizzler3k_ : ok zanza BTFD [2015-12-02 14:51:53] podizzler3k_ : now is the time [2015-12-02 14:51:54] podizzler3k_ : right? [2015-12-02 14:52:22] zanza : http://i.imgur.com/MbxRK17.png [2015-12-02 14:52:25] zanza : get ready boys [2015-12-02 14:52:31] zanza : Castlevania formation [2015-12-02 14:52:45] messiaen8844 : LOL, great [2015-12-02 14:53:50] zanza : that guy AmericanPegasus is an absolute maniac [2015-12-02 14:54:13] j8 : jung1: http://pastebin.com/Wj1HxfAw [2015-12-02 14:54:38] j8 : is an html file for 2x2 cryptowatch charts you can run locally [2015-12-02 14:54:50] j8 : may want to edit the markets at the top [2015-12-02 14:57:10] jung1 : awesome [2015-12-02 14:57:45] j8 : been meaning to clean it up a bit but it works [2015-12-02 15:00:22] brucegoose : anyone know how long "withheld profit" takes to post? is it the last day of the contract or something? [2015-12-02 15:00:57] zanza : brucegoose: Arthur logs on a few times a month an settles it [2015-12-02 15:01:06] zanza : depending on who his friends are [2015-12-02 15:01:15] messiaen8844 : it's based on moon cycles [2015-12-02 15:01:19] zanza : how well you know him, did you send him gifts, etc [2015-12-02 15:01:23] zanza : and moon, yes @messiaen8844 [2015-12-02 15:01:35] brucegoose : interesting. thanks for the comments [2015-12-02 15:01:40] messiaen8844 : but seriously, settlements and readjusts, look at the reference [2015-12-02 15:01:56] messiaen8844 : and remember you can't used withhold profit for margin [2015-12-02 15:06:30] jung1 : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1272304.0 monero scam [2015-12-02 15:07:46] podizzler3k_ : brucegoose when it settles you get it all. i think they were mentioning about freeing up withheld profit on the longer term contracts before they settle [2015-12-02 15:07:50] podizzler3k_ : a portion at least [2015-12-02 15:09:43] jung1 : meh someone dont want to bitcoin rise [2015-12-02 15:10:37] rapidtrades : someone=almost everyone [2015-12-02 15:10:44] justinlooking : wtf going on with volume on okcoin spot? [2015-12-02 15:10:49] justinlooking : https://cryptowat.ch/okcoin/btccny/1min [2015-12-02 15:12:09] rapidtrades : you could say their volume is.... [2015-12-02 15:12:11] rapidtrades : ..... [2015-12-02 15:12:15] rapidtrades : ........... [2015-12-02 15:12:19] rapidtrades : .............spotty [2015-12-02 15:14:02] justinlooking : looks like @ 13:06 the main chipping machine disappeared [2015-12-02 15:25:20] rapidtrades : the BRICS are shitting the bed [2015-12-02 15:28:12] singularity321 : why? [2015-12-02 15:28:51] messiaen8844 : BRICS shitting? that is a indicator I need to invest in then in 2016 [2015-12-02 15:38:23] singularity321 : exactly why are brics shitting it? [2015-12-02 15:38:52] justinlooking : singularity321: worth a read: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confessions_of_an_Economic_Hit_Man [2015-12-02 15:39:20] singularity321 : cheers [2015-12-02 15:44:19] messiaen8844 : china vs 2330, round 15 [2015-12-02 15:44:23] messiaen8844 : deja vu [2015-12-02 15:46:48] singularity321 : lol [2015-12-02 15:48:07] jung1 : green dildo is comming [2015-12-02 15:48:28] podizzle3k : cumming* [2015-12-02 15:48:41] jung1 : oh you! [2015-12-02 15:48:48] justinlooking : lol [2015-12-02 15:49:36] jung1 : https://forum.bitcoin.com/post10195.html#p10195 bitstamp is switching to bib101 [2015-12-02 15:49:55] jung1 : *bip [2015-12-02 15:50:02] habibi : jung1: what are they switching to bip101 [2015-12-02 15:50:05] habibi : please tell me [2015-12-02 15:51:23] jung1 : https://bitcoinxt.software/onboard.html [2015-12-02 15:51:40] jung1 : bitcoin blocks size [2015-12-02 15:51:42] habibi : so they supporting it right ;p? itss miners choose [2015-12-02 15:52:05] jung1 : not only [2015-12-02 15:52:27] jung1 : they will support it on users wallets on exchange [2015-12-02 15:53:59] podizzler3k_ : bip101 is gavin anderson i would never trust that guy hes a cia informant [2015-12-02 15:54:06] podizzler3k_ : probably has some backdoor shit in it [2015-12-02 15:54:27] habibi : so why u trust bitcoin ;p? [2015-12-02 15:56:17] podizzler3k_ : satoshi [2015-12-02 15:56:41] podizzler3k_ : gavin hasnt made any fundamental changes to satoshi's vision until this proposal [2015-12-02 15:57:15] habibi : satoshi said that low block limits are just temporaly [2015-12-02 15:57:48] laisee : support BIP101 ... [2015-12-02 15:57:50] habibi : and sha256 like every sha is NSA creation [2015-12-02 15:58:42] habibi : so if u aware of cia and some backdoors inside, u should be aware that sha2 has some backdoors/exploits like sha1 had [2015-12-02 15:58:59] laisee : security lib is being updated now/soon, right? [2015-12-02 16:00:38] podizzler3k_ : whats wrong with bip100 [2015-12-02 16:00:44] podizzler3k_ : all the china exchanges are switching to that [2015-12-02 16:01:14] laisee : BIP00 has not been written, run or tested yet ... hard to say if support is real. [2015-12-02 16:03:09] jung1 : I think to short it [2015-12-02 16:03:45] laisee : jung1> which coin will you short? [2015-12-02 16:05:29] jung1 : magic internet money [2015-12-02 16:05:51] laisee : sounds cool, where to buy? [2015-12-02 16:06:15] jung1 : https://www.bitmex.com/register/CunK1W here [2015-12-02 16:07:12] laisee : hah. I already bought at the office today. ;-) [2015-12-02 16:07:17] podizzle3k : i had a shitcoin called magic internet money [2015-12-02 16:07:37] podizzle3k : it went to magic internet money heaven [2015-12-02 16:09:34] jung1 : I have whole folder of shircoins paperwallets [2015-12-02 16:10:01] jung1 : maybe will be worth something in couple of years [2015-12-02 16:11:22] laisee : yeah, who knows ... Bitcoin may die a horrible death if dev's don't stop fighting. [2015-12-02 16:12:25] jung1 : I have in my portfolio btc, ltc, xrp, bitshares and eth [2015-12-02 16:12:40] jung1 : and collect them still [2015-12-02 16:14:18] laisee : dash, monero, ducknotes, qiwicoin(don't ask), doge, clams, bytecoin ... [2015-12-02 16:16:06] habibi : fckbankcoin! have 100's milions of it [2015-12-02 16:16:56] laisee : habibi> trade for 1 ducknote? [2015-12-02 16:17:12] habibi : duck duck no, too precious [2015-12-02 16:59:26] SnackyCoins : nom [2015-12-02 16:59:27] SnackyCoins : nom [2015-12-02 16:59:41] SnackyCoins : and the rest of it was pulled [2015-12-02 16:59:42] SnackyCoins : lol [2015-12-02 16:59:48] SnackyCoins : oh no it wasn't [2015-12-02 16:59:52] SnackyCoins : rip [2015-12-02 17:00:30] habibi : quaterlies pumping [2015-12-02 17:00:33] habibi : a bit [2015-12-02 17:11:17] SnackyCoins : nom nom nom [2015-12-02 17:11:23] floopfloop : SnackyCoins: where? [2015-12-02 17:11:30] SnackyCoins : 24h [2015-12-02 17:11:52] SnackyCoins : uhoh finex [2015-12-02 17:12:13] habibi : yep [2015-12-02 17:12:56] SnackyCoins : tiem 4 rekt by le banga [2015-12-02 17:13:35] MrRGnome : Is there any way to keep a position open past settlement? [2015-12-02 17:13:36] messiaen8844 : let's see if it can win 2330 [2015-12-02 17:13:41] floopfloop : MrRGnome: no [2015-12-02 17:13:45] SnackyCoins : MrRGnome: no, that's kind of the point [2015-12-02 17:13:53] floopfloop : SnackyCoins: right? like wtf lol [2015-12-02 17:14:01] habibi : 7d and 24 on same spot [2015-12-02 17:14:02] habibi : nice [2015-12-02 17:14:26] MrRGnome : Well, for example, last night I was waiting for the bounce to 360 most of the day, I would have liked the ability to rebuy at settlement to continue waiting instead of waking up at 5am to do it [2015-12-02 17:14:48] floopfloop : MrRGnome: you are SOL [2015-12-02 17:14:51] SnackyCoins : MrRGnome: me too 8) welcome to crypto trading [2015-12-02 17:15:04] MrRGnome : If it's not something they are considering I'll just make a bot no big deal [2015-12-02 17:15:17] SnackyCoins : you could use a spot market + margin: https://goo.gl/DrXD9o [2015-12-02 17:15:21] floopfloop : ding ding ding, we have a winner! [2015-12-02 17:15:26] SnackyCoins : those never expire, but you have to pay interest [2015-12-02 17:15:31] SnackyCoins : so its a tradeoff [2015-12-02 17:15:43] MrRGnome : Yeah I'm avoiding the interest. I'd rather get hit byt he 2 tiimes trade fee. [2015-12-02 17:15:49] SnackyCoins : i prefer futures (bitmex futures) personally [2015-12-02 17:16:01] SnackyCoins : bitmex is best futures :) [2015-12-02 17:16:05] habibi : 7d lower then 24 [2015-12-02 17:16:08] habibi : why? [2015-12-02 17:16:23] floopfloop : habibi: btc is fake money thats why [2015-12-02 17:17:24] messiaen8844 : fake internet money backed by trolls [2015-12-02 17:17:25] laisee : paper is real? [2015-12-02 17:17:28] messiaen8844 : and baked by trolls [2015-12-02 17:18:05] MrRGnome : baked trolls are the friendliest [2015-12-02 17:18:06] messiaen8844 : now sell me all your coins [2015-12-02 17:23:49] habibi : nice [2015-12-02 17:23:54] habibi : buys [2015-12-02 17:25:54] justinlooking : test [2015-12-02 17:26:54] habibi : lel that finex support [2015-12-02 17:27:23] messiaen8844 : BTC DAILY CANDLE [2015-12-02 17:28:06] podizzle3k : what abou tit [2015-12-02 17:28:35] messiaen8844 : sexy [2015-12-02 17:28:43] podizzle3k : thx [2015-12-02 17:28:47] podizzle3k : now what about the candle [2015-12-02 17:29:09] habibi : doji [2015-12-02 17:29:14] habibi : bullish one [2015-12-02 17:29:20] habibi : but we will see how it will get blosed [2015-12-02 17:29:23] habibi : closed* [2015-12-02 17:29:46] messiaen8844 : 12 hr candle = twin towers [2015-12-02 17:30:02] messiaen8844 : this range = previous top [2015-12-02 17:30:24] messiaen8844 : this range = previous support for rebounce [2015-12-02 17:30:59] messiaen8844 : we hit trend line and went up [2015-12-02 17:31:49] messiaen8844 : stuff gonna happen pretty soon [2015-12-02 17:32:08] floopfloop : I think it gonna crash [2015-12-02 17:32:22] floopfloop : $250 btc ftw [2015-12-02 17:32:32] messiaen8844 : sell then [2015-12-02 17:32:34] floopfloop : short at 100x leverage [2015-12-02 17:33:05] messiaen8844 : there's potencial for either side here [2015-12-02 17:34:10] messiaen8844 : set your alerts and have fun :) [2015-12-02 17:34:27] messiaen8844 : if it denies that bull scenario, yeah, going down hard [2015-12-02 17:35:30] messiaen8844 : no wonder there's resistance in 2330/2350 [2015-12-02 17:53:17] TschavaTschigger : MrRGnome: they actually are considering adding instruments that convert themselves before settlement. At least arthur asked in the trollbox a few weeks ago what we think about the idea. [2015-12-02 17:53:38] TschavaTschigger : but right now, every instrument settles [2015-12-02 17:55:04] justinlooking : anyone know a good way to generate interval data from tick data? [2015-12-02 17:59:11] TschavaTschigger : no, but I know a very bad way (the way I did it) [2015-12-02 17:59:22] justinlooking : lol i think i have a few bad ways too [2015-12-02 17:59:46] TschavaTschigger : :D [2015-12-02 17:59:51] floopfloop : 350 here we come [2015-12-02 18:03:16] floopfloop : guess not [2015-12-02 18:03:18] floopfloop : the 2330 is real [2015-12-02 18:07:40] jung1 : I will wait and see where we will go [2015-12-02 18:08:35] jung1 : or wait what rapid say [2015-12-02 18:11:44] habibi : he is perma bear :( even it dropped under 350 and no blood on the streets still [2015-12-02 18:18:07] messiaen8844 : we might sideways quite a bit here [2015-12-02 18:18:48] habibi : imho strong fight between bulls and bears atm [2015-12-02 18:19:11] podizzle3k : meh [2015-12-02 18:19:16] podizzle3k : just wait until da pumpy [2015-12-02 18:22:34] jung1 : or dump [2015-12-02 18:45:17] rapidtrades : guys what heppened to that [2015-12-02 18:45:37] rapidtrades : rally...f chat [2015-12-02 18:53:19] messiaen8844 : this happened: https://www.tradingview.com/x/4zNBiU2C/ [2015-12-02 18:54:47] rapidtrades : so u played the range and got lucky [2015-12-02 18:54:52] rapidtrades : nice work i guess [2015-12-02 18:59:08] Swedishnut : Coffee Coffee Coffee* in a Turkey Voice [2015-12-02 19:09:09] rapidtrades : who's bulliish/bearish? [2015-12-02 19:10:05] rapidtrades : talk b1cthes [2015-12-02 19:10:18] rapidtrades : still short he [2015-12-02 19:10:31] rapidtrades : *here..wtf is wrong with this chart [2015-12-02 19:13:36] nickhnt : think is going down too [2015-12-02 19:13:58] rapidtrades : *high five [2015-12-02 19:14:04] rapidtrades : we're short buddies now [2015-12-02 19:14:11] Swedishnut : I'm bullish myself thinking it will retrace to 370 at least [2015-12-02 19:14:22] nickhnt : hahaha but im not short [2015-12-02 19:14:25] nickhnt : just seeing the market [2015-12-02 19:14:58] rapidtrades : Swedishnut: u don't get the high five sir. But I respect your opinion [2015-12-02 19:17:12] Swedishnut : rapidtrades: /bow and I respect your opinions too good sir. It is a Mad World and Chaos is rampant in World Financial Panic. [2015-12-02 19:18:51] messiaen8844 : might be a bit of down [2015-12-02 19:21:33] messiaen8844 : out for now [2015-12-02 19:26:44] podizzle3k : i thought your stop was 2250 [2015-12-02 19:26:47] podizzle3k : weak [2015-12-02 20:17:29] podizzle3k : combo breaker [2015-12-02 20:18:00] podizzle3k : everything is right in the world again, btc on the way up, rapidtrades is short [2015-12-02 20:18:26] wurstgelee : great [2015-12-02 20:18:52] podizzler3k_ : well its kinda on the way up [2015-12-02 20:19:02] podizzler3k_ : just needs another shot of huobi jet fuel [2015-12-02 20:19:11] wurstgelee : some small dip would be nce [2015-12-02 20:19:16] wurstgelee : few $ [2015-12-02 20:19:23] wurstgelee : 4-5 mebbe [2015-12-02 20:19:44] podizzler3k_ : how about $3 [2015-12-02 20:19:49] podizzler3k_ : i cant do better than $3.50 [2015-12-02 20:20:07] wurstgelee : ok for me [2015-12-02 20:20:31] podizzler3k_ : let me call star xu and make the arrangements [2015-12-02 20:20:37] podizzler3k_ : it is done. [2015-12-02 20:20:58] wurstgelee : very well [2015-12-02 20:23:09] jung1 : me boring [2015-12-02 20:23:12] jung1 : meh [2015-12-02 20:51:29] User__1 : does take tenge yet? [2015-12-02 21:12:32] jung1 : dump? [2015-12-02 21:13:58] wurstgelee : maybe [2015-12-02 21:14:00] wurstgelee : watching [2015-12-02 21:16:40] irbbqu : Kinda lol price action if this goes down now [2015-12-02 21:16:56] ethexio : dumpit.gif [2015-12-02 21:17:14] wurstgelee : no real momentum yet [2015-12-02 21:17:48] floopfloop : ethexio: http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/poopin.gif [2015-12-02 21:20:25] wurstgelee : podizzler3k_: small dip achieved. thanks ;) [2015-12-02 21:21:31] jung1 : I dont touch it now [2015-12-02 21:21:49] ethexio : Ahh i can't click on that. WHen I scroll up to it and hover it drops me down to bottom of trollbox [2015-12-02 21:23:39] ethexio : weird.. [2015-12-02 21:23:57] ethexio : Might be hover plugin [2015-12-02 21:29:13] jung1 : some moves [2015-12-02 21:29:16] wurstgelee : yes [2015-12-02 21:29:20] wurstgelee : great =) [2015-12-02 21:34:04] jung1 : whats your bets? any chance to go up or we stay [2015-12-02 21:34:46] wurstgelee : i placed my bet on up [2015-12-02 21:36:00] Swedishnut : I think 370 at some spike or point but 365 + soon [2015-12-02 21:36:30] wurstgelee : thats my plan. ;) [2015-12-02 21:36:48] habibi : if we all got the same plan... [2015-12-02 21:36:49] habibi : thats not good [2015-12-02 21:37:00] floopfloop : im short at 100x leverage [2015-12-02 21:37:07] wurstgelee : we always have rapidtrades to disagree [2015-12-02 21:37:11] wurstgelee : and floopfloop [2015-12-02 21:37:12] habibi : we all use 100x on 24 floopfloop [2015-12-02 21:37:33] habibi : not everyone use isolated margin tho [2015-12-02 21:37:43] wurstgelee : i do [2015-12-02 21:37:51] jung1 : too [2015-12-02 21:37:56] floopfloop : 100x margin, win or die [2015-12-02 21:38:00] jung1 : if you love it let it go [2015-12-02 21:38:05] jung1 : ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) [2015-12-02 21:38:05] wurstgelee : ;) [2015-12-02 21:38:05] habibi : on margin u still have 100x [2015-12-02 21:38:19] habibi : i mean cross [2015-12-02 21:38:38] habibi : but better control of capital imho, i used to go on isolated when i started here [2015-12-02 21:38:43] floopfloop : habibi: I notice you haven't been able to sit down, what's wrong, did you have a date last night? [2015-12-02 21:39:10] wurstgelee : i sometimes get distracted and forget about a position for 1-2 hours, so corss is dangerous for me [2015-12-02 21:39:13] habibi : i went sleep early :( like half an hour before dump [2015-12-02 21:39:19] wurstgelee : isolated+ some manual margin [2015-12-02 21:40:05] wurstgelee : some serious resistance @ 2360 currently [2015-12-02 21:57:10] wurstgelee : that candle [2015-12-02 21:58:04] Swedishnut : woah [2015-12-02 21:58:34] jung1 : nice buys on huobi [2015-12-02 21:58:59] wurstgelee : yep [2015-12-02 21:58:59] jung1 : 2k in last 3 min [2015-12-02 22:00:50] jung1 : 3k [2015-12-02 22:01:05] habibi : https://www.huobi.com/k/spot 5k in 5 minute canndle [2015-12-02 22:01:11] habibi : but who cares about chiones volumen [2015-12-02 22:01:25] jung1 : I do [2015-12-02 22:02:42] User__1 : how trade tenge? [2015-12-02 22:03:40] jung1 : what is tenge? [2015-12-02 22:04:00] User__1 : kazakhstan tenge do u know it [2015-12-02 22:04:07] jung1 : nah [2015-12-02 22:20:18] jung1 : wee cheap coins [2015-12-02 22:23:40] sleger : jung1: how many of these "cheap coins" are you buying ? [2015-12-02 22:25:15] jung1 : Im long till 359,8 and buy more [2015-12-02 22:30:08] sleger : 360 btc or contracts ? [2015-12-02 22:31:08] jung1 : 24h [2015-12-02 22:31:43] sleger : jung1: i was asking how many bitcoins you are buying = size of position [2015-12-02 22:31:45] User__1 : how everyone today [2015-12-02 22:31:52] User__1 : we trade big dollars yes [2015-12-02 22:32:21] habibi : yes my brother [2015-12-02 22:32:25] habibi : are u my father? [2015-12-02 22:32:32] floopfloop : habibi: no I am [2015-12-02 22:32:37] habibi : luke? [2015-12-02 22:32:56] sleger : kids... [2015-12-02 22:33:03] justinlooking : wahey, bilo's back [2015-12-02 22:33:09] User__1 : sleger: I AM NOT KID [2015-12-02 22:33:30] sleger : User__1: your caps lock key is broken, go get a new keyboard [2015-12-02 22:33:32] habibi : i am not ur mother [2015-12-02 22:33:33] habibi : father [2015-12-02 22:33:38] User__1 : sorry i lose temper [2015-12-02 22:33:55] User__1 : bitc coin big fun though when i figure out trade ha ha [2015-12-02 22:34:21] floopfloop : User__1: trading 101 [2015-12-02 22:34:33] User__1 : 101 what? why so many [2015-12-02 22:34:45] floopfloop : User__1: go to strip club. Bring USD. Exchange USD for services. Transaction complete [2015-12-02 22:35:07] User__1 : ?? that trade strip for dollar dollars strip no good! [2015-12-02 22:35:15] floopfloop : in your country I think they call them mosque's [2015-12-02 22:35:57] floopfloop : User__1: http://sd.keepcalm-o-matic.co.uk/i/cs-go-say-9-11-was-t-sided.png [2015-12-02 22:42:43] TschavaTschigger : pretty sure User__1 is rapid trolling us on another account but okay [2015-12-02 23:06:53] justinlooking : rapidtrades: do u reckon there will be any voliatlity in the next 1-2 hours? [2015-12-02 23:07:23] Swedishnut : nope price is stable guaranteed :) j/k [2015-12-02 23:16:33] floopfloop : CEO of bitcoin just released a statement :O [2015-12-02 23:17:32] jung1 : "it was prank bro" [2015-12-02 23:30:33] zanza : do yall think this USA shooting gunna be good for Bitcoin price? [2015-12-02 23:32:14] Swedishnut : why would it do anything [2015-12-02 23:33:42] jung1 : butterfly effect [2015-12-02 23:40:12] micmix : price stabilizers engaged, dump postponed until Swedishnut permission [2015-12-02 23:41:22] micmix : engaging ETH dump instead [2015-12-02 23:47:46] sleger : micmix: to your knowledge, is session volume correct ? It shows 371k contracts on the 24H but that seems very low [2015-12-02 23:49:59] micmix : sleger: I'm not sure where to look for session volume. I see 24H turnover 6.75K XBT. [2015-12-02 23:50:16] sleger : yes just above that [2015-12-02 23:50:27] sleger : Session Volume 371,265 24H Turnover 6,756.4935 XBT [2015-12-02 23:50:58] sleger : but session is only 12 hours vs 24h is ... 24h so that must be correct then [2015-12-02 23:51:38] sleger : so 24h volume is about 1.8m contracts [2015-12-02 23:52:17] sleger : bitmex: is it single count or double count ? [2015-12-02 23:54:26] micmix : it's not double count, I asked Wally. session is 8 hours, last session started 20:00 UTC, so just 4 hours ago [2015-12-02 23:54:45] micmix : 350k contract looks about right [2015-12-02 23:54:46] sleger : sessions are not when settlement is done ? [2015-12-02 23:55:17] micmix : no, they have 8 hour trading sessions [2015-12-02 23:55:51] micmix : says so in the instruments table [2015-12-02 23:56:11] sleger : micmix: ok i will look at it. Thanks [2015-12-02 23:56:24] micmix : sleger: sure, happy to help :-) [2015-12-03 00:47:52] podizzle3k : ah cool im out of xbth16 [2015-12-03 00:48:03] podizzle3k : now i just have to wait 100 days to get that profit [2015-12-03 02:11:58] messiaen8844 : down? [2015-12-03 02:28:23] kingscrown : https://twitter.com/kingscrownBTC/status/671866849877979136 [2015-12-03 02:59:44] messiaen8844 : moon time [2015-12-03 04:11:28] podizzler3k : good stuff [2015-12-03 04:19:47] Trade_master_3000 : in cross margin my margin used is scaled to my leverage? [2015-12-03 04:19:59] Trade_master_3000 : 10% margin used = 10x? [2015-12-03 04:20:22] BitMEX_Sam : If you're solely trading XBT24H, yes [2015-12-03 04:20:30] Trade_master_3000 : ty [2015-12-03 04:29:43] Swedishnut : off to 375 I see [2015-12-03 04:36:07] Swedishnut : Nom Pockets [2015-12-03 04:36:14] j8 : `16:36 - Swedishnut: I think 370 at some spike or point but 365 + soon`nice one [2015-12-03 04:36:24] Swedishnut : ty :P [2015-12-03 05:34:29] podizzler3k : sup brehs [2015-12-03 05:34:36] podizzler3k : sup trade master 3k my 3k breh [2015-12-03 05:58:37] Trade_master_3000 : the pnl calculator is bugged the tooltip wont show [2015-12-03 05:59:19] Trade_master_3000 : yo [2015-12-03 06:00:29] Trade_master_3000 : so quick question say i want to open up a 10,000 contract long/short cross margin with acct balance of 2btc, the buy cost then becomes 21.1% of my margin, would that put me at a leverage of 21.1 also? [2015-12-03 06:01:08] Trade_master_3000 : this site is kinda confusing at first [2015-12-03 06:02:32] SnackyCoins : i don't think you have enough margin to do that [2015-12-03 06:02:59] SnackyCoins : 10k each way is still 20k contracts [2015-12-03 06:03:08] Trade_master_3000 : no [2015-12-03 06:03:20] Trade_master_3000 : i just said it that way so nobody knows which direction im really playing [2015-12-03 06:03:33] Trade_master_3000 : not long short at same time haha [2015-12-03 06:03:43] SnackyCoins : oh lol [2015-12-03 06:07:30] SnackyCoins : well to answer your question, 10k contracts is ~36btc, so you'd be 18x? just woke up from a 90 minute nap.. still zonked [2015-12-03 06:07:56] Trade_master_3000 : something like that [2015-12-03 06:08:28] SnackyCoins : that is quite a large trade for that account size [2015-12-03 06:08:54] Trade_master_3000 : i dont keep a lot on exchanges only enough for a couple trades [2015-12-03 06:09:22] SnackyCoins : yeah but the account's margin call >.> [2015-12-03 06:09:33] Trade_master_3000 : i consider the acct margin call my position size [2015-12-03 06:10:09] Trade_master_3000 : no need for stop loss if you can use margin call the same way [2015-12-03 06:10:11] SnackyCoins : that works i suppose :) [2015-12-03 06:10:29] j8 : that gives you double the losses as if you exit with a stop loss actually. [2015-12-03 06:10:46] j8 : on `XBT24H` [2015-12-03 06:11:36] j8 : at 100x anyway. [2015-12-03 06:12:20] j8 : it's like exiting at a price that's 0.5% worse than your liquidation price [2015-12-03 06:13:23] Trade_master_3000 : if i want a stop loss of -/+ $10(the margin call for cross margin, not 100x) or so and my whole account on bmex is my regular 1 trade position size, not really. unless im completely wrong. But the hard part is figuring out how bmex works [2015-12-03 06:13:50] Trade_master_3000 : in regards to its cross margin system [2015-12-03 06:14:12] podizzler3k : j8 what are you saying [2015-12-03 06:14:18] j8 : it's not twice as bad then. [2015-12-03 06:14:19] podizzler3k : why would liquidation be worse than stop loss [2015-12-03 06:14:28] j8 : because you lose the maintenance margin [2015-12-03 06:15:07] podizzler3k : i see [2015-12-03 06:15:27] Trade_master_3000 : i still dont see it [2015-12-03 06:15:51] Swedishnut : still creeping back up to 375 [2015-12-03 06:16:00] j8 : say you're at 10x using cross margin, your liquidation price is roughly 9.5% away but you lose as much as if it was 10%. the maintenance margin covers the other 0.5% [2015-12-03 06:16:34] SnackyCoins : i see, exiting at a 100% loss, you would still get your maint margin back, but getting MC'd takes that too. [2015-12-03 06:16:38] j8 : if you're at 100x your liquidation price is 0.5% away but you would lose as much as if you traded out 1% away [2015-12-03 06:17:27] Trade_master_3000 : i couldnt bring myself to trade 100x [2015-12-03 06:18:02] Trade_master_3000 : so i should put my stop loss .5% before margin call? [2015-12-03 06:18:15] Trade_master_3000 : in order to at least save that [2015-12-03 06:19:11] j8 : you should put it somewhere before, but the main thing to consider is how likely it is to fill at whatever price [2015-12-03 06:20:29] j8 : the one difference is, with the liquidation you're guaranteed to be out [2015-12-03 06:22:33] SnackyCoins : man [2015-12-03 06:22:35] SnackyCoins : no premium still [2015-12-03 06:23:02] SnackyCoins : i'm buying more lol [2015-12-03 06:26:37] Trade_master_3000 : does the pnl calculator only calculate 100x ? [2015-12-03 06:26:48] Trade_master_3000 : might have to use 1b calc [2015-12-03 06:27:19] SnackyCoins : its 1% margin req [2015-12-03 06:27:36] SnackyCoins : you buy however many contracts you buy [2015-12-03 06:27:42] SnackyCoins : and thats what your pnl is based off of [2015-12-03 06:27:46] Trade_master_3000 : gotcha [2015-12-03 06:28:10] Trade_master_3000 : been @ finex for too long and never really got into futures [2015-12-03 06:28:11] SnackyCoins : even cross margin it still only requires the 1% (100x) [2015-12-03 06:28:46] SnackyCoins : which is nice imo :) [2015-12-03 06:33:42] Trade_master_3000 : I guess no oco orders on here yet [2015-12-03 06:33:54] Trade_master_3000 : that would be nice [2015-12-03 06:34:40] podizzler3k : i think thats being worked on [2015-12-03 06:34:53] SnackyCoins : it is [2015-12-03 06:36:58] Trade_master_3000 : low vol pump [2015-12-03 06:37:09] Trade_master_3000 : is is stronger than the high volume sell? [2015-12-03 06:37:31] Trade_master_3000 : ;D [2015-12-03 06:48:49] germanjew : &BTC [2015-12-03 06:49:00] germanjew : &btc [2015-12-03 06:49:07] germanjew : &btc; [2015-12-03 06:49:11] germanjew : lol [2015-12-03 06:54:38] laisee : &btc;ump [2015-12-03 07:30:51] zanza : 400 coming soon [2015-12-03 07:33:11] micmix : I'm back, price stabilizers disengaged [2015-12-03 07:50:28] jung1 : http://www.business-standard.com/article/companies/meet-the-goldman-sachs-of-bitcoin-115120200459_1.html [2015-12-03 07:55:27] micmix : jung1: nice find! so who's Wally? :-) [2015-12-03 07:56:52] jung1 : mtgox bot [2015-12-03 08:00:33] laisee : Free Willy [2015-12-03 08:08:01] jung1 : btw [2015-12-03 08:08:13] jung1 : I logged on my olc cryptsy account [2015-12-03 08:08:19] jung1 : and read a bit [2015-12-03 08:08:27] jung1 : and cryptsy will be next gox imo