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BitMEX disabled their archive after the DDOS attack so I have decided to make my mirror publicly available.

Well now, a few days after I made this mirror available to the public, the original archive from BitMEX is online again.
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[2017-04-28 16:46:58] Ahhere : seems like a smart guy
[2017-04-28 16:47:39] rapidtrades : lol
[2017-04-28 16:48:35] rapidtrades : with segwit done, most of the tail risk is gone for LTC
[2017-04-28 16:48:45] rapidtrades : much safer to shrot now
[2017-04-28 16:48:59] Ahhere : what about coinbase and lightning network in 10 days
[2017-04-28 16:49:21] rapidtrades : they have the coinbase thing but that's a $1 pop maybe? will be good to short into
[2017-04-28 16:49:44] rapidtrades : f*ck lighting network, its a scam
[2017-04-28 16:50:00] rapidtrades : doubtful the code will be even ready
[2017-04-28 16:50:14] Ahhere : why didnt they just call it scam network then? much easier for everyone
[2017-04-28 16:50:32] Ahhere : they already did lightning network transactions on testnet
[2017-04-28 16:50:59] Ahhere : scam testnet
[2017-04-28 16:51:30] rapidtrades : 2.5 mind for transaction or 1 sec, who cares
[2017-04-28 16:51:58] rapidtrades : if ppl wanted speed and low fees they would've used ltc 1 year ago
[2017-04-28 16:53:04] rapidtrades : also its up 4x so everything is over priced in, do u think litecoin users will go up 4x?
[2017-04-28 16:53:14] Ahhere : true but actual development will move to ltc so speculators will find it a tastier prospect
[2017-04-28 16:53:21] Ahhere : as shit gets deployed
[2017-04-28 16:53:40] rapidtrades : noone has commited yet
[2017-04-28 16:53:47] Ahhere : i commit
[2017-04-28 16:53:57] rapidtrades : they have 2 devs and part time charlie
[2017-04-28 16:54:09] Ahhere : lol part time charlie
[2017-04-28 16:54:45] Ahhere : charlie will be busy lambo shopping for a few weeks so part time and on vaycay charlie
[2017-04-28 16:55:03] Ahhere : he sure made that segwit shit happen tho
[2017-04-28 16:57:18] rapidtrades : no devs are happy about sharing power with miners tho
[2017-04-28 16:57:40] rapidtrades : did u read that post by shaolinfry? basically a FU to miners
[2017-04-28 16:57:52] startChat : devs have power?
[2017-04-28 16:58:02] rapidtrades : lot prolly view LTC as sellout coin now
[2017-04-28 16:58:30] Ahhere : rapidtrades: the one saying basically the community doesnt have to stick to the agreement?
[2017-04-28 16:58:50] rapidtrades : yes
[2017-04-28 16:59:04] rapidtrades : only charlie agreed to it he says
[2017-04-28 16:59:13] Ahhere : well the community didnt make the deal that is true lol
[2017-04-28 17:00:09] Ahhere : but the miners knew that they had no guarantees, just wanted to make it look like they had power for the real deal
[2017-04-28 17:01:24] Ahhere : with bitcoin
[2017-04-28 17:02:14] rapidtrades : this shows what a joke crypto 'currencies' are, they will never be stable store of value
[2017-04-28 17:02:46] rapidtrades : there's a physical limit to mining gold, no limit to human stupidity
[2017-04-28 17:03:05] Ahhere : agreed just like enron showed us that companies are never a useful way to organise businesses
[2017-04-28 17:04:13] rapidtrades : as time goes on, all decisions will be made on short-term profit like with LTC
[2017-04-28 17:04:26] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 464 @ 1324.6
[2017-04-28 17:04:35] rapidtrades : lets get segwits even tho its useless so the market will rally
[2017-04-28 17:05:23] rapidtrades : they sold their soul to Jihan for a pump
[2017-04-28 17:05:49] Ahhere : 'useless'
[2017-04-28 17:06:13] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 15617 @ 1318.2
[2017-04-28 17:08:10] rapidtrades : watch the news, china could allow withdrawals soon
[2017-04-28 17:09:01] rapidtrades : /price
[2017-04-28 17:09:03] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1308.26 (-1.56%) Bitfinex : 1385.50 (-0.57%) OKCоin : 1242.02 (-0.24%) itBit : 1313.24 (-1.11%) Kraken : 1313.32 (-0.83%) GDAX : 1320.20 (-1.59%) SLQ : 1 hour, 14 mins```
[2017-04-28 17:14:35] j8 : okc top holder added big the last 2 days
[2017-04-28 17:15:27] 4697 : rapidtrades: which way would you expect that to cause price to move
[2017-04-28 17:15:40] Ahhere : https://twitter.com/SatoshiLite/status/858003203052281856
[2017-04-28 17:16:10] Actualiteit : 4697: yes
[2017-04-28 17:16:31] Ahhere : @rapidtrades^^
[2017-04-28 17:26:54] Blair : litecoin still got the chance to boost
[2017-04-28 17:26:55] Blair : ?
[2017-04-28 17:27:33] Ahhere : imo yes. and i have 6 figures betting on it. @Blair
[2017-04-28 17:28:09] Ahhere : but it could be a sell the news thing for a while first
[2017-04-28 17:28:35] Blair : it's good time to get in now still ?
[2017-04-28 17:29:06] Blair : so far, which is most potential in the contract ， u guess ?
[2017-04-28 17:29:07] Ahhere : Blair: who knows
[2017-04-28 17:29:15] Ahhere : premium here is high tho
[2017-04-28 17:29:48] Blair : bitcoin seems stepping down a little bit
[2017-04-28 17:30:19] Blair : i believe it will continue to move up , until the result from SEC about ETF
[2017-04-28 17:30:37] Ahhere : market doesnt care that much about etf I think
[2017-04-28 17:32:40] Blair : Ahhere: give me some advice, which one is good to buy now ?
[2017-04-28 17:32:44] Blair : any idea ?
[2017-04-28 17:32:54] Ahhere : lol why would u trust me?
[2017-04-28 17:33:00] Ahhere : to be impartial
[2017-04-28 17:33:05] brouk : lol
[2017-04-28 17:33:09] Blair : hehe
[2017-04-28 17:33:19] Blair : wanna to hear more voice and msg
[2017-04-28 17:33:30] Blair : the secret is there , i believe
[2017-04-28 17:33:37] j8 : buy Gnosis... for reasons
[2017-04-28 17:34:00] Blair : Gnosis is just shooting down since past few days
[2017-04-28 17:34:35] Ahhere : to be fair everything seems to be rising against the dollar. against bitcoin its a crapshoot imo
[2017-04-28 17:35:02] j8 : buy ripple then, it went up
[2017-04-28 17:35:32] Blair : I think ripple is already on the way from top to down
[2017-04-28 17:35:52] Blair : the best price is 43% in one hour ago
[2017-04-28 17:36:50] Ahhere : everything has pretty much pumped recently which coin has not pumped?
[2017-04-28 17:38:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `XMRM17`: buy 4 @ 0.018051
[2017-04-28 17:43:18] shery : wtf xrp
[2017-04-28 17:45:33] Ahhere : jesus eth got another billion since yesterday
[2017-04-28 17:48:33] rugu : xrp ready for a short?
[2017-04-28 17:48:52] Ahhere : looks ready
[2017-04-28 17:54:51] thomaskikansha : eth broke .05 so easily
[2017-04-28 17:59:12] atlanta : whats up boys
[2017-04-28 17:59:20] atlanta : Everyone having a good time ?
[2017-04-28 18:01:52] CBF : *tumbleweed*
[2017-04-28 18:02:35] atlanta : yeah
[2017-04-28 18:02:37] atlanta : alright
[2017-04-28 18:02:40] atlanta : well atleast i am
[2017-04-28 18:02:44] atlanta : ETH having a good time
[2017-04-28 18:13:11] shiroe : btc ready for short.
[2017-04-28 18:25:12] mcstanky : /setiment
[2017-04-28 18:25:49] atlanta : /sentiment
[2017-04-28 18:25:52] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 66.21 / 33.79 Daily : 62.52 / 37.49 Weekly : 50.07 / 49.93 Monthly : 46.39 / 53.61```
[2017-04-28 18:25:52] atlanta : Let me fix that for you
[2017-04-28 18:26:37] mcstanky : ty
[2017-04-28 18:28:56] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTM17`: sell 100000 @ 1322.9 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:
[2017-04-28 18:30:26] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 1000 @ 1315.0
[2017-04-28 18:31:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 1000 @ 1311.7
[2017-04-28 18:31:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 10 @ 1310.7
[2017-04-28 18:31:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 1000 @ 1313.2
[2017-04-28 18:31:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 10000 @ 1312.7
[2017-04-28 18:31:17] REKT : Abandon the ship!
[2017-04-28 18:31:27] Ahhere : Yikes
[2017-04-28 18:31:31] rugu : lol
[2017-04-28 18:31:49] atlanta : House is coming down boys
[2017-04-28 18:31:56] atlanta : Every man for himself
[2017-04-28 18:32:48] shiroe : zing! what is our magic number? 1111?
[2017-04-28 18:32:52] shiroe : or 1234? lol
[2017-04-28 18:33:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `LTCM17`: buy 5 @ 0.01227
[2017-04-28 18:33:27] Ahhere : is this how it ends? :,( @shiroe
[2017-04-28 18:37:54] Farzad2 : /rekt
[2017-04-28 18:37:54] trollbot : ``` 3 recent REKTs > 100K: ``` ``` 8 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTM17`: sell 100000 @ 1322.9 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished: ``` ``` 7 hours, 13 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 109090 @ 1311.8 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished: ``` ``` 21 hours, 55 mins ago: Liquidated short on `XBTM17`: buy 100166 @ 1367.3 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished: ```
[2017-04-28 18:38:38] shiroe : to short more or to cover. Hmm.. waiting for a $100 more drop.
[2017-04-28 18:38:57] Farzad2 : 0.15% in 1 hour 20 mins :D
[2017-04-28 18:40:25] emcor : does anyone know what happened to bitcoin?
[2017-04-28 18:40:47] atlanta : emcor: It became outdated
[2017-04-28 18:40:59] hmmmYea : emcor: peter todd
[2017-04-28 18:41:20] Farzad2 : bitcoin is done
[2017-04-28 18:41:25] Farzad2 : road to $1
[2017-04-28 18:41:30] aethlios : i like the ltc arb, 0.15% per day, not bad
[2017-04-28 18:41:41] rugu : aethlios: what arb?
[2017-04-28 18:42:18] aethlios : ltc premium here.
[2017-04-28 18:44:38] 5bg : is it possible to reorder the list of coins across the top
[2017-04-28 18:45:37] 5bg : the ones with the percentages under them
[2017-04-28 18:45:44] rugu : dont think so
[2017-04-28 18:46:20] justinlooking : twood be neat
[2017-04-28 18:47:24] shiroe : arrange it alphabetically after btc would be cool.
[2017-04-28 18:47:27] Actualiteit : Farzad2: $1 is wayy too bu;llish, we're going sub 1 cent m80
[2017-04-28 18:48:00] shiroe : like zec from 10 btc to 0.04? lol
[2017-04-28 18:48:10] 5bg : some are off screen on one of my monitors so it's awkward to change between
[2017-04-28 18:48:24] 5bg : need to see that gno
[2017-04-28 18:48:43] rugu : ots being added to other exchanges on 1st may
[2017-04-28 18:48:48] rugu : prices going to spike
[2017-04-28 18:49:21] Farzad2 : who wants 4% guaranteed profit per month ?
[2017-04-28 18:49:32] Farzad2 : I can tell u how to do it
[2017-04-28 18:49:47] Farzad2 : :D
[2017-04-28 18:49:51] justinlooking : do it
[2017-04-28 18:49:54] atlanta : Tell us
[2017-04-28 18:49:56] 5bg : Farzad2: tell everyone and it won't be 4% for long
[2017-04-28 18:50:00] 5bg : so shut up
[2017-04-28 18:50:02] Farzad2 : lol
[2017-04-28 18:50:08] Makimoto : i do tell me
[2017-04-28 18:50:14] Farzad2 : should I keep it as a secret for ourselves ?
[2017-04-28 18:50:29] hmmmYea : *rolls eyes*
[2017-04-28 18:50:40] 5bg : Farzad2: I used to play poker for a living, we had a saying
[2017-04-28 18:50:46] 5bg : dont teach the table
[2017-04-28 18:51:22] Farzad2 : LTCM17 has 8% premium here, it expires in 2 months. sell it here, buy it on spot price, w8 2 months. u make 8%
[2017-04-28 18:51:32] Farzad2 : u can even gain more by leveraging it
[2017-04-28 18:51:50] Farzad2 : easy moneyyyy
[2017-04-28 18:52:10] atlanta : Do you guys want to tell him or should i ?
[2017-04-28 18:52:14] rugu : i dont think it works like that
[2017-04-28 18:52:17] hmmmYea : and now you guys know why farzad is a developer and not a trader
[2017-04-28 18:52:23] 5bg : thats only a guaranteed 4% ltc
[2017-04-28 18:53:08] Farzad2 : enlighten me boys
[2017-04-28 18:53:19] j8 : it's 4% btc actually
[2017-04-28 18:53:26] Farzad2 : j8: +1
[2017-04-28 18:53:34] thomaskikansha : 0.5% fee to buy/sell spot
[2017-04-28 18:53:41] Farzad2 : hmmmYea: tell me why I am not a trader :D
[2017-04-28 18:54:15] Farzad2 : thomaskikansha: OK, thats 0.5%, you end up with 7.5%. lol
[2017-04-28 18:54:36] Farzad2 : leverage that, you can make it 15% or 30%
[2017-04-28 18:54:55] alfaCharlie : I have a 100% method in a day
[2017-04-28 18:54:56] j8 : the only real issue with it is you could get ADL'd and have a net loss getting back in
[2017-04-28 18:55:01] alfaCharlie : or within 30 minutes
[2017-04-28 18:55:29] hmmmYea : Farzad2: dont have to, 5bg already did
[2017-04-28 18:55:43] Farzad2 : j8: true, but if u trade with low leverage, the possibility of ADL is so low. I have never ADL'ed (knock on wood)
[2017-04-28 18:55:46] alfaCharlie : SHORT btc @ 100x now for -$14
[2017-04-28 18:55:48] alfaCharlie : ;p
[2017-04-28 18:55:51] thomaskikansha : Farzad2: well some easy profits that is
[2017-04-28 18:56:05] j8 : you might also lend the LTC you bought on poloniex for extra return, extra risk though
[2017-04-28 18:56:07] Farzad2 : hmmmYea: what ? he was wrong ! lol
[2017-04-28 18:56:17] hmmmYea : mmmmk
[2017-04-28 18:56:26] Poo : /sentiment
[2017-04-28 18:56:28] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 65.66 / 34.34 Daily : 62.29 / 37.71 Weekly : 50.12 / 49.88 Monthly : 46.34 / 53.66```
[2017-04-28 18:56:48] micmix : spread here and on polo, adl risk, counterparty risk, and only about 10 btc on the books
[2017-04-28 18:57:11] Farzad2 : micmix: hey buddy, how r u doing ?
[2017-04-28 18:57:17] Poo : This is no good
[2017-04-28 18:57:26] Farzad2 : my MM bot is live now :D
[2017-04-28 18:57:34] hmmmYea : micmix: and also liquidity risk... which i think is the biggest in the scenario farzad2 outlined
[2017-04-28 18:57:53] Farzad2 : hmmmYea: what is liquidity risk ?
[2017-04-28 18:58:07] micmix : Farzad2: doing ok but volumes here been lacking :-(
[2017-04-28 18:58:14] hmmmYea : Farzad2: im not here to teach
[2017-04-28 18:58:39] hmmmYea : unlike u
[2017-04-28 18:58:40] Farzad2 : hmmmYea: lol, yeah yeah. because u have nothing to offer.
[2017-04-28 18:59:04] Farzad2 : I dont care about 4%/mo. so it is all yours
[2017-04-28 18:59:06] micmix : at least funding was nice
[2017-04-28 18:59:13] hmmmYea : Farzad2: i am offering you nothing, if thats what you mean.
[2017-04-28 18:59:35] Farzad2 : hmmmYea: you offering me nothing and offering others wrong information ! good job
[2017-04-28 18:59:39] thomaskikansha : coinbase keeps pushing down...can it be double bottom
[2017-04-28 18:59:52] hmmmYea : Farzad2: no sir... you are the only offering misinformation
[2017-04-28 19:00:14] Farzad2 : micmix: may I ask what profit percentage do u make by your MM bot per month ?
[2017-04-28 19:00:21] hmmmYea : explaining dangerous trades to noobs as if they are free money
[2017-04-28 19:00:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `DASHM17`: buy 5 @ 0.065609
[2017-04-28 19:00:40] sleger : hmmmYea: be careful or he will ban you
[2017-04-28 19:00:44] j8 : no worse than the Crypto Digest
[2017-04-28 19:00:48] hmmmYea : meh
[2017-04-28 19:01:00] Farzad2 : hmmmYea: there is actually ez money in crypto. thats why we are all here.
[2017-04-28 19:01:13] micmix : Farzad2: my goal is 1% daily in USD terms
[2017-04-28 19:01:20] hmmmYea : sleger: if i have risk banning, to point out borderline unethical advice... im ok with that
[2017-04-28 19:01:53] Farzad2 : micmix: nice, I am testing my bot and I am also getting 1%/day in average but in BTC terms
[2017-04-28 19:01:54] hmmmYea : Farzad2: the customers of this site are net losers as a population. that is not "easy money"
[2017-04-28 19:02:03] hmmmYea : this site is zero sum
[2017-04-28 19:02:12] hmmmYea : negative sum with fees
[2017-04-28 19:02:39] Farzad2 : hmmmYea: true, thats because they dont trade smart. like I explained.
[2017-04-28 19:02:47] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 4800 @ 1305.9
[2017-04-28 19:02:47] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 54988 @ 1306.0 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2017-04-28 19:02:58] Farzad2 : smart traders are making good money here
[2017-04-28 19:03:00] hmmmYea : Farzad2: what you explained is absolutely terrible advice
[2017-04-28 19:03:01] j8 : in USD value they are net winners
[2017-04-28 19:03:10] sleger : /remind me to ask farzad about his bot in 1 month
[2017-04-28 19:03:12] hmmmYea : for anyone getting trading advice from a troll box
[2017-04-28 19:03:14] micmix : j8: :+1:
[2017-04-28 19:04:21] Farzad2 : sleger: currently is the worst period for MM bots, MM bots hate trending markets
[2017-04-28 19:04:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 20 @ 1304.8
[2017-04-28 19:04:29] j8 : i've seen much worse advice in the trollbox, honestly
[2017-04-28 19:04:34] sleger : Farzad2: how do you know ?
[2017-04-28 19:04:51] thomaskikansha : Farzad2: range markets would be decent?
[2017-04-28 19:04:53] hmmmYea : sleger: oh thats in investopedia
[2017-04-28 19:04:56] sleger : mm does not stand for mean reversion
[2017-04-28 19:05:05] Farzad2 : sleger: may be because of 10 years of trading xp ?
[2017-04-28 19:05:05] sleger : cause that would be mr
[2017-04-28 19:05:15] micmix : Farzad2: what? for naive MMs maybe
[2017-04-28 19:05:22] sleger : oh you have trading experience ? what kind ? @Farzad2
[2017-04-28 19:05:33] rugu : that market making bot in python on github may not work very well on bitmex cause of the spreads
[2017-04-28 19:05:33] hmmmYea : this aint a retial fx bucket shop, my friend
[2017-04-28 19:05:40] sleger : because i have trading exp too and i dont agree with that
[2017-04-28 19:05:42] hmmmYea : retail*
[2017-04-28 19:05:57] Farzad2 : sleger: dont agree with what ?
[2017-04-28 19:06:05] sleger : mm bots lose in trends
[2017-04-28 19:06:11] sleger : ^ wrong
[2017-04-28 19:06:19] sleger : or as micmix said, bad ones maybe
[2017-04-28 19:06:29] Farzad2 : sleger: lol, u r so noob. it is common knowledge.
[2017-04-28 19:06:38] irvingtrader : so, buy time?
[2017-04-28 19:06:38] CrazySteve : /sentiment
[2017-04-28 19:06:41] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 56.77 / 43.23 Daily : 62.33 / 37.67 Weekly : 50.12 / 49.88 Monthly : 46.35 / 53.65```
[2017-04-28 19:06:41] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTM17`: sell 2475 @ 1312.4
[2017-04-28 19:06:44] rugu : soo he is the new troll here?
[2017-04-28 19:06:47] j8 : if you're running a losing MM... please continue
[2017-04-28 19:06:53] CrazySteve : /price
[2017-04-28 19:06:56] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1301.03 (-0.55%) Bitfinex : 1368.90 (-1.20%) OKCоin : 1231.87 (-0.82%) itBit : 1305.69 (-0.57%) Kraken : 1292.14 (-1.61%) GDAX : 1305.57 (-1.11%) SLQ : 1 hour, 57 mins```
[2017-04-28 19:06:56] j8 : don't listen to these guys
[2017-04-28 19:07:03] sleger : Farzad2: what is your trading exp ? doing what ?
[2017-04-28 19:07:15] sleger : j8: good advice right there !
[2017-04-28 19:07:18] Farzad2 : sleger: Forex and Crypto
[2017-04-28 19:07:28] sleger : doing what
[2017-04-28 19:07:40] Farzad2 : sleger: trading and developing bots
[2017-04-28 19:07:43] sleger : coding bots for other people ? trading your money by hand ?
[2017-04-28 19:07:55] hmmmYea : sleger: retail internet forex
[2017-04-28 19:08:04] sleger : trading by hand will teach you about 2% you need to know about MM bots
[2017-04-28 19:08:28] micmix : my mm makes much more in strong trends, i hate low volatility range-bound conditions
[2017-04-28 19:08:57] sleger : micmix: BUT "Farzad2: sleger: lol, u r so noob. it is common knowledge."
[2017-04-28 19:09:10] Farzad2 : micmix: well, this is not a pure MM bot then.
[2017-04-28 19:09:23] sleger : micmix: u r so noob
[2017-04-28 19:09:49] micmix : lol, it is not a naive mm, no
[2017-04-28 19:09:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTM17`: sell 14617 @ 1311.1
[2017-04-28 19:10:36] Farzad2 : micmix: actually good for u. I will try to do the same. improve my bot for trending markets.
[2017-04-28 19:10:41] Dynamix : Short eth mby ? :)
[2017-04-28 19:11:09] Farzad2 : but by definition, MM bots hate trending markets. because u trade against the trend.
[2017-04-28 19:11:12] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 124 @ 1302.3
[2017-04-28 19:11:12] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 15000 @ 1301.7
[2017-04-28 19:11:24] 5bg : Dynamix: better wait until after the asian market wakes up
[2017-04-28 19:11:38] Dynamix : Hmm fair enough
[2017-04-28 19:11:39] Farzad2 : if market is trending, means u lose others win.
[2017-04-28 19:11:49] sleger : i disagree
[2017-04-28 19:11:51] micmix : Farzad2: you have a very narrow definition of MM, there are no such MMs in real world
[2017-04-28 19:11:59] sleger : i agree
[2017-04-28 19:12:30] micmix : at least not anyone who survives on real market for longer than a few month
[2017-04-28 19:12:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 500 @ 1300.7
[2017-04-28 19:12:52] 5bg : I disagree with sleger's agreement of his disagreement
[2017-04-28 19:13:05] sleger : ^ wrong
[2017-04-28 19:13:35] micmix : I agree with sleger's agreement of our disagreements
[2017-04-28 19:13:37] Farzad2 : micmix: so how do u think BitMex anchor market maker is profitable ?
[2017-04-28 19:13:39] 5bg : swnt ....... help......... stuck .......... in.........feddback .......... loop
[2017-04-28 19:13:49] Farzad2 : they are always in market
[2017-04-28 19:14:33] Farzad2 : look at XBJM17
[2017-04-28 19:14:33] micmix : Farzad2: it has very strict delta limits, hedges exposure and has huge wallet
[2017-04-28 19:14:37] sleger : well they only quote during non trends of course, cause thats the only way a MM bot can be profitable, its common knowledge
[2017-04-28 19:14:59] sleger : ^ i learned that today
[2017-04-28 19:15:08] justinlooking : trollol
[2017-04-28 19:15:37] Farzad2 : sleger: it is the average that matters u noob
[2017-04-28 19:15:46] sleger : Farzad2: please stay nice
[2017-04-28 19:15:49] Farzad2 : they lose in trending markets
[2017-04-28 19:15:59] sleger : dont call a noob someone who clearly knows much more about the subject
[2017-04-28 19:16:24] sleger : i have been nothing more than polite, as per your requests
[2017-04-28 19:16:33] hmmmYea : im gonna switch to caps
[2017-04-28 19:17:01] hmmmYea : THE ONLY MARKETS THAT ARE GOOD TO TRADE ARE EXCITING MARKETS. THE ONLY MARKETS ARE EXCITING ARE TRENDING.
[2017-04-28 19:17:14] hmmmYea : if your mm loses money when its exciting whats even the point?
[2017-04-28 19:17:26] sleger : its the average that matters
[2017-04-28 19:17:27] sleger : he said
[2017-04-28 19:17:33] sleger : u noob
[2017-04-28 19:17:38] Farzad2 : exactly
[2017-04-28 19:17:46] hmmmYea : oh yea
[2017-04-28 19:17:48] Farzad2 : I look at monthly statement
[2017-04-28 19:18:01] hmmmYea : i forgot about means
[2017-04-28 19:18:08] sleger : and if its negative you can just not look at ti
[2017-04-28 19:18:10] sleger : *it
[2017-04-28 19:18:14] hmmmYea : ive only been doing modal analysis lately
[2017-04-28 19:18:15] sleger : then the average is still positive
[2017-04-28 19:18:34] hmmmYea : thats why everything is wrong!
[2017-04-28 19:18:46] Farzad2 : sleger: lol good one
[2017-04-28 19:18:48] 5bg : possible btcusd breaks lower resistance and ethbtc breaks upper at same time, could be big break, although neither resistance points are that strong
[2017-04-28 19:19:22] rugu : anyone planning to long gnom?
[2017-04-28 19:19:28] Farzad2 : MM is all about statistics.
[2017-04-28 19:19:29] rugu : it seems to be at the lower end of a dip now,
[2017-04-28 19:20:01] rugu : Farzad2: All trades are about statistics, mm is about low alpha and some hedges
[2017-04-28 19:20:18] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 2000 @ 1306.1
[2017-04-28 19:21:15] Nutella : /price
[2017-04-28 19:21:17] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1302.00 (0.07%) Bitfinex : 1371.60 (0.20%) OKCоin : 1224.01 (-0.64%) itBit : 1304.97 (-0.06%) Kraken : 1298.83 (0.52%) GDAX : 1309.39 (0.29%) SLQ : 14 mins```
[2017-04-28 19:22:20] micmix : sleger: you learn something new every day, that's why we have trollbox here
[2017-04-28 19:23:29] rugu : trollbox, the place of ever lasting knowledge
[2017-04-28 19:23:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `XRPM17`: sell 1000 @ 0.00003607
[2017-04-28 19:29:46] irvingtrader : yey buy time!
[2017-04-28 19:30:04] Ahhere : irvingtrader: its always buy time
[2017-04-28 19:30:19] irvingtrader : but more than "always"
[2017-04-28 19:31:42] Ahhere : irvingtrader: always and 4eva?
[2017-04-28 19:32:01] irvingtrader : n'eva
[2017-04-28 19:32:53] Labowski : /price
[2017-04-28 19:32:56] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1304.37 (0.18%) Bitfinex : 1374.30 (0.20%) OKCоin : 1222.00 (-0.16%) itBit : 1309.74 (0.37%) Kraken : 1305.75 (0.53%) GDAX : 1314.19 (0.37%) SLQ : 11 mins```
[2017-04-28 19:39:32] rugu : that buy wall on xrp . Wow
[2017-04-28 19:41:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 400 @ 1311.1
[2017-04-28 19:45:44] cryptoman23 : hi, I forgot to backup the googleauth, is it possible to do that now after I already have enabled it?
[2017-04-28 19:46:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 5000 @ 1315.1
[2017-04-28 19:46:17] REKT : Have a bowl of chop-chop suey!
[2017-04-28 19:46:23] sario : WHAT U FCK happened on ETC Book??!!
[2017-04-28 19:46:26] sario : anyone?
[2017-04-28 19:47:13] BitMEX_John : cryptoman23: no, but you can disable and then re-enable your 2FA here - https://www.bitmex.com/app/account
[2017-04-28 19:47:23] Farzad2 : sario: what happened ?
[2017-04-28 19:47:30] BitMEX_John : cryptoman23: when you re-enable you can take it down :)
[2017-04-28 19:47:45] sario : Farzad2: it's total whole
[2017-04-28 19:47:51] sario : sell side
[2017-04-28 19:47:55] sario : why?
[2017-04-28 19:48:54] cryptoman23 : thx John:-)
[2017-04-28 19:49:32] sario : anyone explain what happen on ETC?
[2017-04-28 19:49:32] Farzad2 : sario: Market maker is dumping his inventory on 0.003979
[2017-04-28 19:50:08] sario : comeon
[2017-04-28 19:50:14] sario : why?
[2017-04-28 19:50:38] sario : there is only 3000 etc before whole
[2017-04-28 19:51:13] sario : 2000
[2017-04-28 19:54:51] rapidtrades : they can buy the dipp all hey want, its gonna fall anyway
[2017-04-28 19:55:18] rapidtrades : my patience is unlimited
[2017-04-28 19:56:06] rapidtrades : if this crypto scam continues ur gonna see the SEC issuing statements to stay away from crypto
[2017-04-28 19:56:25] rapidtrades : this is no joke now, billions of dollars will be lost
[2017-04-28 19:57:03] sario : rapidtrades: at what you refer?
[2017-04-28 19:57:16] sario : why bilion dollars are lost
[2017-04-28 19:57:18] sleger : for the dollars lost ?
[2017-04-28 19:57:19] sario : ?
[2017-04-28 19:57:22] sleger : his positions
[2017-04-28 19:57:37] sario : man caomeon!
[2017-04-28 19:57:55] sario : he is suicide man at this time
[2017-04-28 20:03:43] rapidtrades : you're all be in for a suicide once this scam blows up
[2017-04-28 20:04:06] rapidtrades : what happened in china is just step 1, soon u wont be able to buy anything with bitcoin
[2017-04-28 20:04:55] rapidtrades : if this 'currency' is an example of how a libertarian society would work, i want no part of it
[2017-04-28 20:08:46] CrazySteve : /sentiment
[2017-04-28 20:08:49] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 24.14 / 75.86 Daily : 61.09 / 38.91 Weekly : 49.95 / 50.05 Monthly : 46.37 / 53.63```
[2017-04-28 20:15:14] hmmmYea : rapidtrades: do you want to be part of *any* society?
[2017-04-28 20:15:17] hmmmYea : be honest
[2017-04-28 20:15:35] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHM17`: buy 33 @ 0.05422
[2017-04-28 20:16:01] sleger : there might be some reciprocity there too
[2017-04-28 20:16:43] mdsmm : who's short btc?
[2017-04-28 20:17:36] biz : all the smart traders
[2017-04-28 20:17:55] Nutella : LTC too
[2017-04-28 20:19:05] MikeHunt : prob rebuy at 1200 if this continues
[2017-04-28 20:21:08] Ahhere : biz: im dum :,(
[2017-04-28 20:21:11] Dnavid : long btc will add at 1280
[2017-04-28 20:21:30] Actualiteit : looking for a long entry @ $20
[2017-04-28 20:21:46] MikeHunt : Actualiteit: even rapids not that bad
[2017-04-28 20:21:53] Actualiteit : haha
[2017-04-28 20:21:56] zy : weekend incoming, weird shit gonna happen
[2017-04-28 20:22:25] Actualiteit : weekend started wednesday for me, get on my level peasants
[2017-04-28 20:23:00] irvingtrader : /sentiment
[2017-04-28 20:23:03] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 22.72 / 77.28 Daily : 60.51 / 39.49 Weekly : 49.82 / 50.18 Monthly : 46.36 / 53.64```
[2017-04-28 20:24:27] zy : Actualiteit: spare some change sir?
[2017-04-28 20:25:51] Actualiteit : zy: get a job
[2017-04-28 20:26:13] Actualiteit : pshh, all these lowlifes..
[2017-04-28 20:37:22] Ahhere : Actualiteit: any satoshis for a hostel guv?
[2017-04-28 20:38:24] wtaler : /rekt
[2017-04-28 20:38:25] trollbot : ``` 3 recent REKTs > 100K: ``` ``` 2 hours, 9 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTM17`: sell 100000 @ 1322.9 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished: ``` ``` 9 hours, 13 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 109090 @ 1311.8 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished: ``` ``` 23 hours, 56 mins ago: Liquidated short on `XBTM17`: buy 100166 @ 1367.3 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished: ```
[2017-04-28 20:44:00] cryptoman23 : I got a problem when I disabled and enabled google auth. Now I cannot disable it again.. I went a little fast and forgot to write down the key @BitMEX_John
[2017-04-28 20:47:50] Actualiteit : cryptoman23: now you fked up
[2017-04-28 20:48:07] cryptoman23 : yup
[2017-04-28 20:49:17] cryptoman23 : nope I think Im good actually:-) mixed sites
[2017-04-28 20:50:10] cryptoman23 : tired, late day
[2017-04-28 20:56:13] sleger : get eth while the price still has only 2 digits !
[2017-04-28 20:56:43] Actualiteit : cryptoman23: wrote your key down now? :P
[2017-04-28 20:58:35] cryptoman23 : yup:-)
[2017-04-28 20:59:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHM17`: buy 212 @ 0.05534
[2017-04-28 20:59:02] REKT : Choppy waters make solid seamen!
[2017-04-28 21:05:34] Dnavid : btc digging itself out of its hole
[2017-04-28 21:06:50] hmmmYea : /price
[2017-04-28 21:06:52] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1307.85 (0.27%) Bitfinex : 1383.70 (0.68%) OKCоin : 1229.14 (0.58%) itBit : 1309.13 (-0.05%) Kraken : 1298.76 (-0.54%) GDAX : 1311.93 (-0.17%) SLQ : 1 hour, 33 mins```
[2017-04-28 21:09:34] QuantFocus : i wonder if people were manipulating gdax last night to force liquidations here
[2017-04-28 21:09:53] QuantFocus : since the index consists of 50% gdax, and they trade with smaller volume than other exchanges
[2017-04-28 21:11:06] hmmmYea : QuantFocus: doubtful
[2017-04-28 21:11:49] hmmmYea : eth was trading a bit richer than btc
[2017-04-28 21:11:54] hmmmYea : last night
[2017-04-28 21:12:20] 24hourz : QuantFocus: kind of hard to manipulate gdax ?
[2017-04-28 21:12:28] hmmmYea : i think it was americans buying the crap out of eth
[2017-04-28 21:12:48] hmmmYea : on coinbase
[2017-04-28 21:13:10] hmmmYea : seems like the same thing is starting to happen this evening as people get off work
[2017-04-28 21:13:10] thpwnguy : is bifinex still solvent?
[2017-04-28 21:13:27] thpwnguy : is anybody taking advantage of this spread?
[2017-04-28 21:14:54] mark121 : hmmmYea: i thought it was the north koreans
[2017-04-28 21:15:37] sleger : i bought mine from a nigerian prince, they are in the mail
[2017-04-28 21:16:34] hmmmYea : mark121: hey mark
[2017-04-28 21:17:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `FCTM17`: sell 53 @ 0.006009
[2017-04-28 21:29:33] mark121 : howdy
[2017-04-28 21:34:47] shillosopher : mark121: you gonna short eth again today?
[2017-04-28 21:35:17] mark121 : considering it
[2017-04-28 21:35:51] stf28 : what happened to mm's on btcusd? all these talks today made them reconsider strategy? Or is their bandwidth too busy watching this bitmex youtube video in loop ?
[2017-04-28 21:35:54] mark121 : https://www.tradingview.com/x/wBehwAYe/
[2017-04-28 21:36:21] mark121 : im kinda thinking that it will do the same
[2017-04-28 21:36:53] mark121 : but im long dash atm
[2017-04-28 21:37:03] mark121 : ripple i closed
[2017-04-28 21:37:17] shillosopher : hmm
[2017-04-28 21:37:47] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 1000 @ 1316.7
[2017-04-28 21:38:29] mark121 : cant be very active today so im takin er easy
[2017-04-28 21:38:45] hmmmYea : #papertradelife
[2017-04-28 21:42:34] stf28 : is that a market_maker strike? even on exchanges usual markets gone
[2017-04-28 21:45:36] Actualiteit : stf28: is verri supscocous.\
[2017-04-28 21:47:20] stf28 : some arbitrage may have started, bfx going for the mean
[2017-04-28 21:49:27] maxrdlf95 : /sentiment
[2017-04-28 21:49:29] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 39.98 / 60.02 Daily : 61.16 / 38.84 Weekly : 49.98 / 50.02 Monthly : 46.38 / 53.62```
[2017-04-28 21:52:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 725 @ 1320.4
[2017-04-28 22:15:49] rapidtrades : swing swing swing
[2017-04-28 22:15:56] rapidtrades : what a joke, this isnt a market anymore
[2017-04-28 22:16:04] rapidtrades : btce down, okc down
[2017-04-28 22:16:26] rapidtrades : only gdax and stamp and manipulated to shake out leveraged ppl here
[2017-04-28 22:16:47] rapidtrades : btce $7 from lows
[2017-04-28 22:17:08] rapidtrades : shit here pumps $20-30 without reason
[2017-04-28 22:18:33] Actualiteit : shit happens
[2017-04-28 22:18:36] Actualiteit : I guess
[2017-04-28 22:19:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHM17`: sell 50 @ 0.05432
[2017-04-28 22:19:56] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 500 @ 1325.7
[2017-04-28 22:20:35] rapidtrades : lets hope china comes back soon so stupid west can go back to following
[2017-04-28 22:20:53] rapidtrades : i thought china was the dummb money....i was wrong
[2017-04-28 22:21:57] Actualiteit : tbh I don't see any logic in this market, on any of the exchanges so yeah, fuck that lol
[2017-04-28 22:29:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 35000 @ 1328.1
[2017-04-28 22:29:39] EastIndiaCompany : boom #rekt!
[2017-04-28 22:30:21] Poo : rapidtrades: its a blessing dnno what ure complaining about
[2017-04-28 22:41:46] mofeta : anybody longing monero?
[2017-04-28 22:43:42] biz : not right now
[2017-04-28 22:43:55] biz : up 11%
[2017-04-28 22:44:21] biz : everything seems to be dumping a bit
[2017-04-28 22:47:41] rapidtrades : everything but GNO
[2017-04-28 22:47:48] rapidtrades : that coin is tough as nails
[2017-04-28 22:48:16] rapidtrades : on the luanchpad being fueled up, preparing for its flight to the moon on monday
[2017-04-28 22:48:45] rapidtrades : sleger slowly accumulating 100s of coins
[2017-04-28 22:49:18] rapidtrades : it will be his second best investment, after he got lucky on ETH
[2017-04-28 22:49:55] needmoneyquick : how many eth does sleger have?
[2017-04-28 22:50:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 40000 @ 1331.8
[2017-04-28 22:50:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 150000 @ 1331.8 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:
[2017-04-28 22:50:25] rapidtrades : he bought 20k back in the day i think
[2017-04-28 22:50:31] needmoneyquick : wow
[2017-04-28 22:50:38] needmoneyquick : lucky
[2017-04-28 22:51:51] rapidtrades : /price
[2017-04-28 22:51:53] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1324.44 (1.27%) Bitfinex : 1398.90 (1.10%) OKCоin : 1243.40 (1.16%) itBit : 1333.25 (1.84%) Kraken : 1316.21 (1.34%) GDAX : 1341.35 (2.24%) SLQ : 1 hour, 45 mins```
[2017-04-28 22:52:00] Ahhere : We mooning again? Hard to keep up
[2017-04-28 22:52:30] rapidtrades : they're just swinging prices to knock ppl out
[2017-04-28 22:52:40] rapidtrades : btce went up like $2
[2017-04-28 22:52:49] rapidtrades : noone is following these crazy swings
[2017-04-28 22:53:18] rapidtrades : west is too illiquid to run bitcoin, i will gladly welcome back our chinese overlords
[2017-04-28 22:55:41] rapidtrades : did bitmex implement does limits? prices are very erratic here snce we added coinbase
[2017-04-28 22:56:07] rapidtrades : @bitmex did u guys add price limits
[2017-04-28 22:59:58] Poo : Id be suprised if sellers are finished here
[2017-04-28 23:00:25] j8 : spread between stamp and gdax has been all over the place, but the index protections won't do anything until the spread is quite large
[2017-04-28 23:00:40] biz : $1326 and $1341 is horrible
[2017-04-28 23:00:46] rapidtrades : how large
[2017-04-28 23:00:56] j8 : 25%
[2017-04-28 23:01:12] rapidtrades : i think GDAX is causing this, we never had this erratic index moves before
[2017-04-28 23:01:55] j8 : pretty hard to get a read on what the "real" price is. you could equally blame bitstamp
[2017-04-28 23:03:14] rapidtrades : i can look at a chart dumbass
[2017-04-28 23:03:31] j8 : yeah but which chart
[2017-04-28 23:03:34] rapidtrades : srsly j8 ur trolling is getting out of hand
[2017-04-28 23:04:06] j8 : not trolling
[2017-04-28 23:04:17] rapidtrades : BOTH OF THEM
[2017-04-28 23:04:59] j8 : bitstamp wicks are worse
[2017-04-28 23:05:46] j8 : maybe you like it better because the price is lower
[2017-04-28 23:06:04] rapidtrades : F OFF
[2017-04-28 23:06:08] rapidtrades : u just made the ahole list
[2017-04-28 23:06:15] j8 : ok maybe trolling a little bit now.
[2017-04-28 23:06:41] micmix : they need to add gemini
[2017-04-28 23:06:52] micmix : more volume than stamp and gdax now
[2017-04-28 23:06:57] j8 : oh really
[2017-04-28 23:07:12] j8 : but how much of that is the auction?
[2017-04-28 23:07:58] j8 : liquidity once a day doesn't do much for the swap
[2017-04-28 23:08:51] rapidtrades : whats the symbol for coinbase on TV
[2017-04-28 23:09:04] rapidtrades : can't search atm
[2017-04-28 23:09:07] micmix : twice a day but I agree, without the auctions volume is lower than gdax
[2017-04-28 23:09:27] rapidtrades : buggyass webbased charts
[2017-04-28 23:09:48] micmix : in the absence of stable index the whole approach to swap need tweaking
[2017-04-28 23:09:58] j8 : auction is twice a day now?
[2017-04-28 23:10:10] micmix : yes, they added second one for asia
[2017-04-28 23:10:11] rapidtrades : phaseout the swap
[2017-04-28 23:10:56] micmix : auction volumes have been growing steadily, very soon it's going to be the primary price signal
[2017-04-28 23:12:16] rapidtrades : yeag right
[2017-04-28 23:12:21] rapidtrades : btce about to break 14.2
[2017-04-28 23:12:30] rapidtrades : hold on to ur butts longers
[2017-04-28 23:13:40] j8 : volume has to go somewhere i guess. and no one seems to have a problem with domestic wires
[2017-04-28 23:14:14] micmix : no problems with international wires to/from gemini either
[2017-04-28 23:15:08] j8 : didn't think they had clients outside the US.
[2017-04-28 23:15:22] rapidtrades : or from anywhere else but finex and okc
[2017-04-28 23:16:10] micmix : https://gemini.com/areas-of-operation/