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<< >> English 中文 Русский 한국어 日本語 Español Français [2015-12-02 09:31:36] habibi : Ontita: u still here ! :p [2015-12-02 09:49:05] rapidtrades : good morning [2015-12-02 09:49:21] rapidtrades : and god bless the queen [2015-12-02 09:55:15] rapidtrades : not much of a rebound...so I dropped my hedge and short now [2015-12-02 10:06:24] TschavaTschigger : good morning rapid, glad to see you again today [2015-12-02 10:06:47] habibi : target for next 24 h mates? [2015-12-02 10:07:06] TschavaTschigger : same target as last 24h: rapid [2015-12-02 10:08:06] habibi : bye 350? [2015-12-02 10:08:40] rapidtrades : habibi: looks like it [2015-12-02 10:09:39] rapidtrades : ppl on the weekly are rly slow ..$3 premium...rly [2015-12-02 10:10:19] habibi : i gues u made scalp on 5$ premium minutes before and u wanna go out of position :) [2015-12-02 10:13:29] rapidtrades : no [2015-12-02 10:15:40] rapidtrades : hey what's teh current interest on bitfinex? don't want to login [2015-12-02 10:16:20] rapidtrades : to buy [2015-12-02 10:17:59] rapidtrades : habibi: target if we break $350? [2015-12-02 10:20:31] habibi : basically we broke it at night, i was sleeping so dont know who stopped that bleeding but if china then i wouldnt expect much drops [2015-12-02 10:21:51] rapidtrades : so ur bullish [2015-12-02 10:23:28] habibi : nope, bearish but probally another day of no moves, as soon as i will go sleep then markets will dump ;p [2015-12-02 10:24:12] rapidtrades : last flatness lasted for 12 hours...we're at 10 now [2015-12-02 10:24:19] rapidtrades : so dump after settlement? [2015-12-02 10:24:56] rapidtrades : I'm short on the weekly so I can wait :) [2015-12-02 10:46:05] habibi : look at volumizer on okc lel [2015-12-02 10:46:32] rapidtrades : prepare ur assholes gentlemen [2015-12-02 10:47:07] habibi : wisdom shows only 6k but okcoin.cn shows about 17k [2015-12-02 10:47:24] rapidtrades : btc? [2015-12-02 10:47:39] rapidtrades : no bump on futures [2015-12-02 10:48:07] habibi : yea btc [2015-12-02 10:48:29] habibi : i mean its just a 99% of fake volume probally [2015-12-02 10:52:32] laisee : fake volumes, real rekkage ;-) [2015-12-02 11:08:50] rapidtrades : meh I don't use volume [2015-12-02 11:09:21] rapidtrades : I started with spot forex, we don't have that data there so learned to ignore it [2015-12-02 11:11:11] habibi : on forex u dont have volume? [2015-12-02 11:21:10] rapidtrades : nope spot is a decentralized market, volume only shows broker volume [2015-12-02 11:47:53] rapidtrades : another settlement dump? [2015-12-02 12:00:19] ethexio : Oy [2015-12-02 12:02:32] rapidtrades : oy indeed [2015-12-02 12:09:31] rapidtrades : $0 premium on daily, $3 on weekly...cos f*ck reason [2015-12-02 12:22:02] podizzle3k : wow how many times are you going to complain about a premium [2015-12-02 12:22:12] podizzle3k : try looking at a chart longer than 5m [2015-12-02 12:22:18] podizzle3k : its been going up since september [2015-12-02 12:23:28] rapidtrades : get real, we're down $150 since the highs in November [2015-12-02 12:24:02] podizzle3k : why dont you just stfu and short all bids over spot then [2015-12-02 12:24:05] rapidtrades : classic bust pattern, imo [2015-12-02 12:24:10] podizzle3k : easy money right [2015-12-02 12:24:16] rapidtrades : I'm short as much as my risk allows [2015-12-02 12:24:18] rapidtrades : don't worry [2015-12-02 12:24:46] podizzle3k : im short until i see real pumping resume [2015-12-02 12:24:52] podizzle3k : not this slow bot rise [2015-12-02 12:25:41] rapidtrades : we've barely gone up $10 from the lows....this looks like all those flattening patterns on the way up [2015-12-02 12:25:54] rapidtrades : more dumpage likely imo [2015-12-02 12:26:36] podizzle3k : i agree, now someone buy up to 353.96 and finish filling my order [2015-12-02 12:27:52] podizzler3k_ : test [2015-12-02 12:28:14] rapidtrades : haha that's almost exactly where I exited my long scalp [2015-12-02 12:28:47] rapidtrades : still short on that weekly [2015-12-02 12:29:10] podizzler3k_ : 352.82 was settlement wtf [2015-12-02 12:29:17] podizzler3k_ : that index is highly suspect [2015-12-02 12:29:37] podizzler3k_ : should have been 351.50 [2015-12-02 12:29:50] rapidtrades : why? only finex traded that low [2015-12-02 12:29:59] rapidtrades : okcoin and stamp were closer to 353 [2015-12-02 12:30:23] podizzler3k_ : because i was short thats why [2015-12-02 12:30:29] rapidtrades : lol :) [2015-12-02 12:30:45] habibi : and thats the argument [2015-12-02 12:31:37] rapidtrades : maybe they should narrow the window to 15 mins? 30 is a lot for a daily contract, a lot can happen during that time [2015-12-02 12:31:39] podizzler3k_ : getting rid of these march contracts is going to be interesting [2015-12-02 12:32:00] podizzler3k_ : i was able to dump over half for huge profit alredy, but kinda stuck with the rest now [2015-12-02 12:32:03] habibi : dont panic [2015-12-02 12:32:06] BitMEX_Wally : rapidtrades: Contact expiry is always "interesting", people try and manipulate the settlement price [2015-12-02 12:32:08] habibi : still chance for 4 digits price [2015-12-02 12:32:19] rapidtrades : I would do it at 10 mins and add more exchanges [2015-12-02 12:32:28] rapidtrades : to avoid manipulation [2015-12-02 12:32:52] BitMEX_Wally : TradeBlock uses 6 exchanges in their weighting [2015-12-02 12:33:08] rapidtrades : oh,,,wasn't it 3? finex okc and stamp [2015-12-02 12:33:17] j8 : 5? [2015-12-02 12:33:21] rapidtrades : 11? [2015-12-02 12:33:21] podizzler3k_ : looking at stamp now i guess 352 was fair [2015-12-02 12:34:07] podizzler3k_ : https://tradeblock.com/markets/index [2015-12-02 12:34:13] podizzler3k_ : is it okcoin usd or cny converted to usd [2015-12-02 12:34:34] rapidtrades : usd i hope [2015-12-02 12:34:38] podizzler3k_ : must be usd [2015-12-02 12:34:47] j8 : it is [2015-12-02 12:34:55] podizzler3k_ : or the volume weighting would make okcoin 99.9% of the index [2015-12-02 12:35:31] podizzler3k_ : nobody's using the winkdex these days? lol [2015-12-02 12:35:34] podizzler3k_ : probably too embarassed [2015-12-02 12:35:54] habibi : podizzler3k_: okc and huobi as well [2015-12-02 12:36:17] habibi : BitMEX_Wally: what do u think about volume spikes at chinas exchanges? pure volumizer? [2015-12-02 12:36:30] rapidtrades : point is to make the index so big it wouldn't make sense to manipulate the exchanges [2015-12-02 12:36:38] BitMEX_Wally : habibi: No comment [2015-12-02 12:36:42] rapidtrades : so chinese should be included [2015-12-02 12:36:47] podizzler3k_ : habibi not a volumizer but more manipulation [2015-12-02 12:37:07] habibi : rapidtrades: it doesnt make sense to move price block just to make 1 less dollar here at settlement [2015-12-02 12:37:25] habibi : maybe some day when we will have here above milions contracts on settlement [2015-12-02 12:37:26] podizzler3k_ : i dont see huobi listed on tradeblocks website [2015-12-02 12:38:00] podizzler3k_ : coinbase bitfinex itbit okcoin and bitstamp [2015-12-02 12:38:02] rapidtrades : habibi: I agree...I was thinking to narrow the calculation window AND include more exchanges...because 30 mins is a lot [2015-12-02 12:38:04] podizzler3k_ : or were you talking about something else [2015-12-02 12:38:30] habibi : BitMEX_Wally: any comment about why no comment? [2015-12-02 12:38:43] rapidtrades : habibi: no comment :) [2015-12-02 12:38:48] podizzler3k_ : by the second 15 minutes of the window the price has moved some. [2015-12-02 12:40:05] habibi : does settlement close @okcoin on the last price of contracts before settlement? lel [2015-12-02 12:40:22] podizzler3k_ : heh someone put a order in at $341 on weekly what an overpaying sucker [2015-12-02 12:40:28] podizzler3k_ : mines at $337 [2015-12-02 12:40:53] rapidtrades : habibi: no okc uses an index as well [2015-12-02 12:41:01] podizzler3k_ : haha come on [2015-12-02 12:41:14] podizzler3k_ : i was watching okcoin during settlement and the price jumped $80 in the final seconds [2015-12-02 12:41:19] podizzler3k_ : they had to shut down and rewind all trades [2015-12-02 12:41:22] podizzler3k_ : there was no index [2015-12-02 12:41:32] rapidtrades : podizzler3k_: when [2015-12-02 12:41:37] podizzler3k_ : couple months ago [2015-12-02 12:41:45] rapidtrades : things are usually super calm before settlement [2015-12-02 12:42:06] rapidtrades : well if they rewind the trades it was prolly a system error [2015-12-02 12:42:22] podizzler3k_ : i was pissed because i was long at the time [2015-12-02 12:42:24] podizzler3k_ : it was no error [2015-12-02 12:42:24] habibi : or too obvious manipulation [2015-12-02 12:42:31] podizzler3k_ : it was just obvious manipulation yeah [2015-12-02 12:42:38] podizzler3k_ : which imo is not an excuse to rewind [2015-12-02 12:43:06] rapidtrades : podizzler3k_: well the index settles with 6 exchanges so even if futures jump $80 it wouldn't make a difference [2015-12-02 12:43:17] rapidtrades : wouldn't change the index [2015-12-02 12:43:35] rapidtrades : if the index jumped $80 then it's obviously a mistake [2015-12-02 12:43:45] habibi : rapidtrades: what if there were no index [2015-12-02 12:43:51] podizzler3k_ : im talking about okcoin not here [2015-12-02 12:43:57] podizzler3k_ : its clearly superior here [2015-12-02 12:44:46] rapidtrades : podizzler3k_: yeah they use an index too u can google it,,,don't want to link it here [2015-12-02 12:44:53] rapidtrades : bitcoin futures index [2015-12-02 12:45:40] rapidtrades : brb [2015-12-02 12:46:49] j8 : podizzler3k_: you're talking about the run up in july right? [2015-12-02 13:01:09] mwalshe99 : any staff online? [2015-12-02 13:01:19] mwalshe99 : anyone know how long it takes them to do withdrawals roughly? [2015-12-02 13:03:39] floopfloop : mwalshe99: you missed it [2015-12-02 13:03:49] floopfloop : mwalshe99: every day at 0 GMT [2015-12-02 13:04:09] habibi : 13 utc time [2015-12-02 13:04:17] habibi : so 4 minutes ago [2015-12-02 13:06:03] mwalshe99 : i didnt miss it [2015-12-02 13:06:05] mwalshe99 : was in well on time [2015-12-02 13:06:17] mwalshe99 : just wondering how long it usually takes from 13:00 [2015-12-02 13:06:40] BitMEX_Wally : mwalshe99: Your withdrawal has been signed, I am waiting for BitMEX_Arthur to co-sign and then it will be broadcast. We usually get them done within an hour [2015-12-02 13:07:24] mwalshe99 : legend [2015-12-02 13:07:25] mwalshe99 : thanks [2015-12-02 13:11:13] podizzler3k_ : hey cool my order got filled [2015-12-02 13:11:19] podizzler3k_ : let the dumping commence [2015-12-02 13:14:42] podizzler3k_ : i found that day that okcoin futures screwed me https://twitter.com/fumanchu6666/status/619438069868068864 [2015-12-02 13:14:57] podizzler3k_ : i was long for that and they denied me any profit [2015-12-02 13:15:01] podizzler3k_ : saying it was a mistake [2015-12-02 13:15:18] podizzler3k_ : so glad to be off that hackshop [2015-12-02 13:19:58] podizzler3k_ : december liquidity not very good :( [2015-12-02 13:20:27] sleger : podizzler3k_: you want to buy or sell ? [2015-12-02 13:21:22] podizzler3k_ : neither just would be cool to have another liquid market in addition to weekly and daily [2015-12-02 13:22:04] podizzler3k_ : im just gonna sit on my march contracts for a while [2015-12-02 13:22:04] sleger : ah so you dont want to trade, just making remarks, I see... [2015-12-02 13:22:33] podizzler3k_ : i do want to trade, thats why i commented [2015-12-02 13:22:34] floopfloop : podizzler3k_: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e__bsqUs648 [2015-12-02 13:22:40] podizzler3k_ : just not specifically buying or selling [2015-12-02 13:22:53] HotDogs : Phantom trade [2015-12-02 13:22:54] podizzler3k_ : haha love austin p [2015-12-02 13:23:30] sleger : podizzler3k_: ah so you DO want to trade, just not buying or selling, I see.... or wait, no I dont, you guys are insane [2015-12-02 13:23:49] podizzler3k_ : ok fine. i want to buy and sell contracts [2015-12-02 13:23:54] podizzler3k_ : happy [2015-12-02 13:24:02] sleger : ok you can buy at 370 and sell at 355 [2015-12-02 13:24:44] podizzler3k_ : sounds like some good negative growth for my portfolio [2015-12-02 13:25:33] MasterChang : yo [2015-12-02 13:25:35] MasterChang : fellas [2015-12-02 13:25:46] MasterChang : how do i close a position [2015-12-02 13:26:14] habibi : if u have + contacts u need to sell them to close [2015-12-02 13:26:27] podizzler3k_ : masterchang just do the opposite of what you are open [2015-12-02 13:26:40] floopfloop : MasterChang: https://www.bitmex.com/app/faq [2015-12-02 13:26:53] podizzler3k_ : if you are long then you need to sell, and vice versa [2015-12-02 13:27:25] podizzler3k_ : floopfloop why'd you take the dump day off from trading [2015-12-02 13:27:37] podizzler3k_ : cyber monday hit you hard? [2015-12-02 13:27:51] podizzler3k_ : spent all your btc on fleshlights [2015-12-02 13:27:52] floopfloop : podizzler3k_: busy [2015-12-02 13:28:21] floopfloop : podizzler3k_: promo code: ROGAN [2015-12-02 13:28:30] podizzler3k_ : haha [2015-12-02 13:28:32] podizzler3k_ : onit [2015-12-02 13:28:36] podizzler3k_ : bbl gotta work [2015-12-02 13:36:45] rapidtrades : how's it going fellas? bullish or bearish? [2015-12-02 13:39:49] rapidtrades : fellas? [2015-12-02 13:39:56] rapidtrades : any fellas here? [2015-12-02 13:40:53] jung1 : 530 is possible [2015-12-02 13:41:03] jung1 : *330 [2015-12-02 13:41:12] jung1 : 530 in next year [2015-12-02 13:42:25] rapidtrades : ok fella [2015-12-02 13:45:25] messiaen8844 : hey [2015-12-02 13:45:51] podizzler3k_ : jung1 theres some cheap march contracts for ony $450 [2015-12-02 13:45:55] podizzler3k_ : you should probably snag those up [2015-12-02 13:46:23] podizzler3k_ : actually dont im trying to buy cheap [2015-12-02 13:46:42] jung1 : I will wait a bit [2015-12-02 13:46:52] jung1 : but gonna buy [2015-12-02 13:46:52] messiaen8844 : triangle salmos resolving [2015-12-02 13:46:56] messiaen8844 : *almost [2015-12-02 13:47:46] podizzler3k_ : nah [2015-12-02 13:48:00] podizzler3k_ : i see people say that all the time [2015-12-02 13:48:15] podizzler3k_ : then when nothing happens they draw a new triangle that resolves at a later time [2015-12-02 13:48:34] jung1 : https://www.techinasia.com/goldman-sachs-bitcoin-bitmex [2015-12-02 13:48:45] jung1 : gentlemans [2015-12-02 13:48:57] jung1 : keep trading [2015-12-02 13:53:40] jung1 : BitMEX_Wally: From an idea to $5 million per day [2015-12-02 13:53:41] jung1 : gratz [2015-12-02 13:54:42] rapidtrades : I usually flush my ideas down the toilet [2015-12-02 13:55:32] jung1 : so your ideas are pretty shitty [2015-12-02 13:55:50] rapidtrades : :) [2015-12-02 13:57:22] MasterChang : seriously still trying to figure out how to close this position [2015-12-02 13:57:31] MasterChang : i did what you guys saud [2015-12-02 13:57:32] rapidtrades : do the possoite [2015-12-02 13:57:34] rapidtrades : opposite [2015-12-02 13:57:36] MasterChang : now i have 2000 contracts [2015-12-02 13:57:39] MasterChang : isntead of 1000 [2015-12-02 13:57:44] rapidtrades : looool [2015-12-02 13:57:48] habibi : u have +2000 contracts? [2015-12-02 13:57:54] habibi : or -2000? [2015-12-02 13:57:55] rapidtrades : put 2000 in quantiti and hit sel [2015-12-02 13:58:06] MasterChang : why cant it be simple like okcoin [2015-12-02 13:58:09] MasterChang : i have 2000 [2015-12-02 13:58:18] jung1 : you can click "close market" or put sell order [2015-12-02 13:58:19] rapidtrades : 2000 in quantity and sell [2015-12-02 13:58:24] rapidtrades : or that [2015-12-02 13:58:33] MasterChang : wheres close market [2015-12-02 13:58:40] habibi : it is simpple [2015-12-02 13:58:41] jung1 : order controls [2015-12-02 13:58:49] rapidtrades : ffs....put 2000 in quanityt an hit the sell button [2015-12-02 13:58:51] jung1 : but when you lcose it [2015-12-02 13:58:52] MasterChang : if it was simple i would have figured it out already [2015-12-02 13:59:14] jung1 : but your own by sell you get better price [2015-12-02 13:59:32] jung1 : sell 1 contract and you will see how it works [2015-12-02 13:59:49] rapidtrades : u also have <close market> button but u will pay commish that way [2015-12-02 14:00:02] rapidtrades : close market [2015-12-02 14:01:06] habibi : anyway coz of high fees here watch out for closing contracts on the market [2015-12-02 14:01:08] jung1 : or wait for liquidation [2015-12-02 14:01:13] rapidtrades : or that [2015-12-02 14:01:18] jung1 : :) [2015-12-02 14:01:36] rapidtrades : should come any minute now :) [2015-12-02 14:02:01] habibi : MasterChang: liquidation is good [2015-12-02 14:02:09] rapidtrades : I think he did it [2015-12-02 14:02:13] rapidtrades : just saw 2k sold [2015-12-02 14:02:14] MasterChang : is it now [2015-12-02 14:02:26] habibi : gjh [2015-12-02 14:02:31] MasterChang : not many people using bitmex eh [2015-12-02 14:02:41] rapidtrades : nope [2015-12-02 14:03:01] habibi : but its the only exchange where every 2 players here have 1 bot playing against them xD [2015-12-02 14:03:24] podizzler3k_ : [08:57] <MasterChang> now i have 4000 contracts [08:57] <MasterChang> isntead of 2000 [2015-12-02 14:03:45] podizzler3k_ : 1 minute later [2015-12-02 14:03:47] podizzler3k_ : [08:58] <MasterChang> now i have 8000 contracts [08:58] <MasterChang> isntead of 4000 [2015-12-02 14:03:56] MasterChang : ha ha [2015-12-02 14:03:58] MasterChang : sa funny [2015-12-02 14:04:26] MasterChang : you need a guide or some shit [2015-12-02 14:04:31] podizzler3k_ : there is tons of guides [2015-12-02 14:04:38] podizzler3k_ : even a testnet.bitmex.com for practice [2015-12-02 14:04:46] rapidtrades : which u don't really need to read [2015-12-02 14:04:46] MasterChang : ive been able to use every exchange available up until today [2015-12-02 14:04:52] MasterChang : perhaps why low users [2015-12-02 14:05:02] j8 : MasterChang: https://www.bitmex.com/app/lesson1 [2015-12-02 14:05:28] MasterChang : yeah but how do you find that without you linking it [2015-12-02 14:05:30] MasterChang : and wheres the chat box [2015-12-02 14:05:37] MasterChang : gone into the abyss [2015-12-02 14:05:39] j8 : References [2015-12-02 14:06:58] rapidtrades : I would advise against reading [2015-12-02 14:07:13] BitMEX_Wally : MasterChang: Click on 'References' in the side bar [2015-12-02 14:07:47] MasterChang : oh look i found chat [2015-12-02 14:08:00] aspa : Omfg this conversation is hilarious [2015-12-02 14:08:26] MasterChang : how do i human [2015-12-02 14:09:58] jung1 : aspa: we're proffesionals here. [2015-12-02 14:10:05] messiaen8844 : @BitMEX_Wally : chat not working on my Android mobile devices on Crome? When tapping on trollbox chat input, nothing happens. [2015-12-02 14:10:35] jung1 : aspa: we're goldman sachs of bitcoin https://www.techinasia.com/goldman-sachs-bitcoin-bitmex [2015-12-02 14:12:48] messiaen8844 : https://www.tradingview.com/x/4zNBiU2C/ [2015-12-02 14:13:34] podizzler3k_ : ah what [2015-12-02 14:14:26] messiaen8844 : see you at $370 [2015-12-02 14:15:30] jung1 : possible [2015-12-02 14:15:32] podizzler3k_ : looks like its time to switch to long [2015-12-02 14:15:43] rapidtrades : u do that :) [2015-12-02 14:15:43] messiaen8844 : sorry, not $370 yet [2015-12-02 14:15:52] messiaen8844 : but if it breaks 2350/60 range, ALL IN the super train [2015-12-02 14:16:48] jung1 : was too stable [2015-12-02 14:19:07] podizzler3k_ : ok im in [2015-12-02 14:19:14] podizzler3k_ : all aboard the hype train [2015-12-02 14:19:16] podizzler3k_ : choo choo [2015-12-02 14:19:57] messiaen8844 : podd: nice triangle, no :) ? [2015-12-02 14:20:36] podizzler3k_ : messiaen8844 lol sure [2015-12-02 14:20:39] podizzler3k_ : ill give you that one [2015-12-02 14:20:48] podizzler3k_ : clearly this has nothing to do with a single buyer on huobi [2015-12-02 14:20:56] podizzler3k_ : its all about organic breakout from triangle [2015-12-02 14:20:57] aspa : jung1: bitcoin comedy club, that's what you guys are:) [2015-12-02 14:21:11] jung1 : its something [2015-12-02 14:21:55] rapidtrades : it's a thing [2015-12-02 14:22:05] messiaen8844 : rapid: 2070 level mean something, didn't it ;) ? [2015-12-02 14:22:29] rapidtrades : it meant a bull trap [2015-12-02 14:23:03] podizzler3k_ : next stop $400 [2015-12-02 14:23:16] habibi : next stop- now [2015-12-02 14:23:16] rapidtrades : why stop there, 1 mil [2015-12-02 14:23:20] messiaen8844 : not yet, we have to confirm reversal [2015-12-02 14:23:26] podizzler3k_ : confirmed [2015-12-02 14:23:26] rapidtrades : $1,000,000 [2015-12-02 14:23:33] podizzler3k_ : there ya go i confirmed it [2015-12-02 14:23:45] zanza : FOMO BTFD [2015-12-02 14:23:48] habibi : if 1 milion reached we need much more xx leverage here [2015-12-02 14:24:01] rapidtrades : yeah like 10,000/1 [2015-12-02 14:24:08] rapidtrades : bitmex make it appen go go ggo g [2015-12-02 14:25:02] podizzler3k_ : zanza im not sure you know what btfd stands for [2015-12-02 14:25:13] podizzler3k_ : tough to buy a dip when the price is surging [2015-12-02 14:25:45] rapidtrades : buy this dip cry now, there will be no later [2015-12-02 14:28:13] messiaen8844 : rapid did you short XBTH16 at 435? [2015-12-02 14:28:24] podizzler3k_ : that was me [2015-12-02 14:28:26] podizzler3k_ : at 441 [2015-12-02 14:28:27] messiaen8844 : someone sold that yesterday, bought 77 contracts here [2015-12-02 14:28:30] jung1 : huys do you remember fontas? [2015-12-02 14:28:43] podizzler3k_ : jung1 ofc.. hes still on tradingview [2015-12-02 14:28:59] jung1 : he lost 80k on yesterdays 10% drop http://i.imgur.com/HGdTLOn.png [2015-12-02 14:29:19] podizzler3k_ : ah yes facesofrekt [2015-12-02 14:29:59] zanza : podizzler3k_: this is a dip from 500 [2015-12-02 14:30:00] rapidtrades : it's depressing that idiots like him have that much money to lose [2015-12-02 14:30:15] podizzler3k_ : oh my mistake, i thought 500 was a dip from 1200 [2015-12-02 14:30:21] podizzler3k_ : fontas is no idiot [2015-12-02 14:30:37] zanza : podizzler3k_: rofl [2015-12-02 14:30:45] rapidtrades : he's an idiot, he was pumping altcoins for years [2015-12-02 14:30:45] jung1 : but he made a lot of money in '13'14 on altcoin pumps [2015-12-02 14:30:46] zanza : jung1: what website is that ? [2015-12-02 14:30:59] rapidtrades : jung1: exactly [2015-12-02 14:30:59] podizzler3k_ : yeah pumps that he personally orchestrated using social media campaigns [2015-12-02 14:31:12] rapidtrades : if he did this in other markets he would be in jail [2015-12-02 14:31:17] podizzler3k_ : hes a pump and dump pioneer [2015-12-02 14:31:19] podizzler3k_ : its not other markets [2015-12-02 14:31:25] jung1 : zanza: http://facesofrekt.austeritysucks.com/index.php?id=9 [2015-12-02 14:31:48] rapidtrades : ok I'll give him that, he's good at fooling ppl but he's no trader [2015-12-02 14:31:53] podizzler3k_ : there is not ethics in trading a free market [2015-12-02 14:32:00] jung1 : yep [2015-12-02 14:32:01] podizzler3k_ : only ethics in what you do with the profits [2015-12-02 14:32:05] jung1 : this is how free market works [2015-12-02 14:32:31] messiaen8844 : yes, if market things it is wrong ,it corrects, really fast [2015-12-02 14:32:33] podizzler3k_ : do you think a pro poker player lays down his hand because he feels bad about bluffing the other guy? [2015-12-02 14:32:35] messiaen8844 : but there's resistance here [2015-12-02 14:32:56] jung1 : he made thousands of bitcoins on that pumps [2015-12-02 14:33:00] justinlooking : hello troops [2015-12-02 14:33:02] rapidtrades : podizzler3k_: that's not the same, he all know the rules befoer the game starts [2015-12-02 14:33:05] justinlooking : is the rally really back on? [2015-12-02 14:33:19] messiaen8844 : no [2015-12-02 14:33:20] rapidtrades : justinlooking: no stupid [2015-12-02 14:33:24] podizzler3k_ : everyone that participated in a fontas pump did so willingly [2015-12-02 14:33:27] jung1 : bitcoin is dead [2015-12-02 14:33:28] podizzler3k_ : they knew the game [2015-12-02 14:33:37] podizzler3k_ : you sell before everyone else does or youre rekt [2015-12-02 14:33:40] jung1 : podizzler3k_: mcxnow ftw [2015-12-02 14:33:44] jung1 : whoop whoop [2015-12-02 14:33:49] rapidtrades : podizzler3k_: doesn;t make it less wrong....exploiting ppl is still bad [2015-12-02 14:33:53] justinlooking : mcxnow? [2015-12-02 14:33:58] messiaen8844 : hit my target by the exact CNY, now we see if there's stronger reversal [2015-12-02 14:34:32] jung1 : justinlooking: yeah old altcoin exchange wrote in c++ [2015-12-02 14:34:33] podizzler3k_ : rapidtrades where do you think the money comes from when you profit? [2015-12-02 14:34:36] podizzler3k_ : the magic money fairy? [2015-12-02 14:34:46] podizzler3k_ : youre exploiting the weakness in other traders strategies [2015-12-02 14:34:55] podizzler3k_ : whether you believe it or not [2015-12-02 14:35:24] rapidtrades : podizzler3k_: it;s not the same, anyway let's watch the market [2015-12-02 14:35:40] podizzler3k_ : trading bitcoin in itself would be unethical by your definition because the market is clearly manipulated [2015-12-02 14:35:45] podizzler3k_ : and thats 'just not right' [2015-12-02 14:36:02] habibi : show me market without manipulation [2015-12-02 14:36:10] habibi : or whatever how u consider "market manipulation"? [2015-12-02 14:37:22] messiaen8844 : if you engage in altcoin trading you know the risks [2015-12-02 14:37:37] jung1 : now theres not a lot of altcoin pumps. Instead there are croudfunding actions with only idea and whitepaper [2015-12-02 14:37:52] jung1 : theycollect a lot of bitcoins this way [2015-12-02 14:37:57] habibi : shit, i made too op liquid for my e cigarrete [2015-12-02 14:38:25] jung1 : biggest altocin pumpers imop was fontas and kaiser [2015-12-02 14:38:26] habibi : too much nicotine [2015-12-02 14:38:40] habibi : kaiser wasnt the real pumper, he was marketer [2015-12-02 14:39:05] jung1 : startcoin, and that litecoin pump do %50 [2015-12-02 14:39:12] jung1 : $50 [2015-12-02 14:39:15] jung1 : it was him [2015-12-02 14:39:37] habibi : startcoin - he made great hype before coin really started [2015-12-02 14:39:41] habibi : and he choose good timing [2015-12-02 14:39:55] habibi : that was deadcat bounce from early start - startcoin :p [2015-12-02 14:40:14] podizzler3k_ : i made some good money renting hash to mine startcoin [2015-12-02 14:40:20] jung1 : yeah but when it start it hits like 0.5btc [2015-12-02 14:40:21] podizzler3k_ : on the first day of trading [2015-12-02 14:41:05] jung1 : crazy days [2015-12-02 14:41:21] justinlooking : what's the rapidicator currently saying? [2015-12-02 14:41:41] podizzler3k_ : wow what a great deal $364 for 4000 contracts. i'd buy that if it wasnt my sell order ;) [2015-12-02 14:41:49] podizzler3k_ : probably gonna pull it in 10 seconds [2015-12-02 14:41:49] messiaen8844 : he was shorting on weekly, when I knew I had to long [2015-12-02 14:42:02] messiaen8844 : *then [2015-12-02 14:42:14] podizzler3k_ : dammit [2015-12-02 14:42:29] zanza : podizzler3k_: are you advertising [2015-12-02 14:42:36] zanza : your own orders? [2015-12-02 14:42:37] podizzler3k_ : whaaaaaaaaaaaaaat? [2015-12-02 14:42:47] podizzler3k_ : i dont know what to say to that kind of accusation [2015-12-02 14:43:13] zanza : ill buy it if you post a youtube video of you signing "Gangdam Style" [2015-12-02 14:43:25] messiaen8844 : you are being accused of trade in an exchange? [2015-12-02 14:43:30] justinlooking : lol do it1 [2015-12-02 14:43:32] messiaen8844 : manipulation by trollbox lol? [2015-12-02 14:43:39] messiaen8844 : (sometimes it works) [2015-12-02 14:43:40] podizzler3k_ : it works for btc-e [2015-12-02 14:43:49] podizzler3k_ : unfortunately i dont think the retardation level is quite as high here [2015-12-02 14:43:52] zanza : lmao [2015-12-02 14:44:11] podizzler3k_ : i managed to get btc-e into a frenzy about litecoin going on gox one time, then i did a huge market buy and whipsawed the fuck out of everyone [2015-12-02 14:44:20] podizzler3k_ : it was probably my finest moment [2015-12-02 14:44:34] zanza : u dirty dog [2015-12-02 14:44:36] rapidtrades : podizzler3k_: wow... [2015-12-02 14:44:37] messiaen8844 : 2330 is such an interesting support, it keeps coming back [2015-12-02 14:44:38] podizzler3k_ : fontas would have been proud [2015-12-02 14:44:53] messiaen8844 : market couldn't deny it much [2015-12-02 14:45:58] podizzler3k_ : speaking of whipsaw, bitcoin looking a little whipsawwy atm [2015-12-02 14:46:22] rapidtrades : podizzler3k_: I don't trust a word u say now [2015-12-02 14:46:33] podizzler3k_ : why would you to begin with [2015-12-02 14:46:47] messiaen8844 : I only trust the kazakhistan guy here [2015-12-02 14:46:50] podizzler3k_ : tbh i am honest [2015-12-02 14:46:52] messiaen8844 : because he is friends with Borat [2015-12-02 14:47:11] podizzler3k_ : who USER_1? [2015-12-02 14:47:17] podizzler3k_ : hes a fiesty fellow [2015-12-02 14:47:42] messiaen8844 : yes [2015-12-02 14:47:55] podizzler3k_ : btw i wont sing gangham style but i will sing 'i get it from my daddy' [2015-12-02 14:48:00] podizzler3k_ : that video cracks me up [2015-12-02 14:48:46] jung1 : who can make 2x2 charts like old.whaleclub? [2015-12-02 14:48:55] zanza : podizzler3k_: ok link pls [2015-12-02 14:49:08] j8 : jung1: i got somethin for ya [2015-12-02 14:50:04] podizzler3k_ : PSY - DADDY(feat. CL of 2NE1) M/V https://youtu.be/FrG4TEcSuRg via @YouTube [2015-12-02 14:51:50] podizzler3k_ : ok zanza BTFD [2015-12-02 14:51:53] podizzler3k_ : now is the time [2015-12-02 14:51:54] podizzler3k_ : right? [2015-12-02 14:52:22] zanza : http://i.imgur.com/MbxRK17.png [2015-12-02 14:52:25] zanza : get ready boys [2015-12-02 14:52:31] zanza : Castlevania formation [2015-12-02 14:52:45] messiaen8844 : LOL, great [2015-12-02 14:53:50] zanza : that guy AmericanPegasus is an absolute maniac [2015-12-02 14:54:13] j8 : jung1: http://pastebin.com/Wj1HxfAw [2015-12-02 14:54:38] j8 : is an html file for 2x2 cryptowatch charts you can run locally [2015-12-02 14:54:50] j8 : may want to edit the markets at the top [2015-12-02 14:57:10] jung1 : awesome [2015-12-02 14:57:45] j8 : been meaning to clean it up a bit but it works [2015-12-02 15:00:22] brucegoose : anyone know how long "withheld profit" takes to post? is it the last day of the contract or something? [2015-12-02 15:00:57] zanza : brucegoose: Arthur logs on a few times a month an settles it [2015-12-02 15:01:06] zanza : depending on who his friends are [2015-12-02 15:01:15] messiaen8844 : it's based on moon cycles [2015-12-02 15:01:19] zanza : how well you know him, did you send him gifts, etc [2015-12-02 15:01:23] zanza : and moon, yes @messiaen8844 [2015-12-02 15:01:35] brucegoose : interesting. thanks for the comments [2015-12-02 15:01:40] messiaen8844 : but seriously, settlements and readjusts, look at the reference [2015-12-02 15:01:56] messiaen8844 : and remember you can't used withhold profit for margin [2015-12-02 15:06:30] jung1 : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1272304.0 monero scam [2015-12-02 15:07:46] podizzler3k_ : brucegoose when it settles you get it all. i think they were mentioning about freeing up withheld profit on the longer term contracts before they settle [2015-12-02 15:07:50] podizzler3k_ : a portion at least [2015-12-02 15:09:43] jung1 : meh someone dont want to bitcoin rise [2015-12-02 15:10:37] rapidtrades : someone=almost everyone [2015-12-02 15:10:44] justinlooking : wtf going on with volume on okcoin spot? [2015-12-02 15:10:49] justinlooking : https://cryptowat.ch/okcoin/btccny/1min [2015-12-02 15:12:09] rapidtrades : you could say their volume is.... [2015-12-02 15:12:11] rapidtrades : ..... [2015-12-02 15:12:15] rapidtrades : ........... [2015-12-02 15:12:19] rapidtrades : .............spotty [2015-12-02 15:14:02] justinlooking : looks like @ 13:06 the main chipping machine disappeared [2015-12-02 15:25:20] rapidtrades : the BRICS are shitting the bed [2015-12-02 15:28:12] singularity321 : why? [2015-12-02 15:28:51] messiaen8844 : BRICS shitting? that is a indicator I need to invest in then in 2016 [2015-12-02 15:38:23] singularity321 : exactly why are brics shitting it? [2015-12-02 15:38:52] justinlooking : singularity321: worth a read: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confessions_of_an_Economic_Hit_Man [2015-12-02 15:39:20] singularity321 : cheers [2015-12-02 15:44:19] messiaen8844 : china vs 2330, round 15 [2015-12-02 15:44:23] messiaen8844 : deja vu [2015-12-02 15:46:48] singularity321 : lol [2015-12-02 15:48:07] jung1 : green dildo is comming [2015-12-02 15:48:28] podizzle3k : cumming* [2015-12-02 15:48:41] jung1 : oh you! [2015-12-02 15:48:48] justinlooking : lol [2015-12-02 15:49:36] jung1 : https://forum.bitcoin.com/post10195.html#p10195 bitstamp is switching to bib101 [2015-12-02 15:49:55] jung1 : *bip [2015-12-02 15:50:02] habibi : jung1: what are they switching to bip101 [2015-12-02 15:50:05] habibi : please tell me [2015-12-02 15:51:23] jung1 : https://bitcoinxt.software/onboard.html [2015-12-02 15:51:40] jung1 : bitcoin blocks size [2015-12-02 15:51:42] habibi : so they supporting it right ;p? itss miners choose [2015-12-02 15:52:05] jung1 : not only [2015-12-02 15:52:27] jung1 : they will support it on users wallets on exchange [2015-12-02 15:53:59] podizzler3k_ : bip101 is gavin anderson i would never trust that guy hes a cia informant [2015-12-02 15:54:06] podizzler3k_ : probably has some backdoor shit in it [2015-12-02 15:54:27] habibi : so why u trust bitcoin ;p? [2015-12-02 15:56:17] podizzler3k_ : satoshi [2015-12-02 15:56:41] podizzler3k_ : gavin hasnt made any fundamental changes to satoshi's vision until this proposal [2015-12-02 15:57:15] habibi : satoshi said that low block limits are just temporaly [2015-12-02 15:57:48] laisee : support BIP101 ... [2015-12-02 15:57:50] habibi : and sha256 like every sha is NSA creation [2015-12-02 15:58:42] habibi : so if u aware of cia and some backdoors inside, u should be aware that sha2 has some backdoors/exploits like sha1 had [2015-12-02 15:58:59] laisee : security lib is being updated now/soon, right? [2015-12-02 16:00:38] podizzler3k_ : whats wrong with bip100 [2015-12-02 16:00:44] podizzler3k_ : all the china exchanges are switching to that [2015-12-02 16:01:14] laisee : BIP00 has not been written, run or tested yet ... hard to say if support is real. [2015-12-02 16:03:09] jung1 : I think to short it [2015-12-02 16:03:45] laisee : jung1> which coin will you short? [2015-12-02 16:05:29] jung1 : magic internet money [2015-12-02 16:05:51] laisee : sounds cool, where to buy? [2015-12-02 16:06:15] jung1 : https://www.bitmex.com/register/CunK1W here [2015-12-02 16:07:12] laisee : hah. I already bought at the office today. ;-) [2015-12-02 16:07:17] podizzle3k : i had a shitcoin called magic internet money [2015-12-02 16:07:37] podizzle3k : it went to magic internet money heaven [2015-12-02 16:09:34] jung1 : I have whole folder of shircoins paperwallets [2015-12-02 16:10:01] jung1 : maybe will be worth something in couple of years [2015-12-02 16:11:22] laisee : yeah, who knows ... Bitcoin may die a horrible death if dev's don't stop fighting. [2015-12-02 16:12:25] jung1 : I have in my portfolio btc, ltc, xrp, bitshares and eth [2015-12-02 16:12:40] jung1 : and collect them still [2015-12-02 16:14:18] laisee : dash, monero, ducknotes, qiwicoin(don't ask), doge, clams, bytecoin ... [2015-12-02 16:16:06] habibi : fckbankcoin! have 100's milions of it [2015-12-02 16:16:56] laisee : habibi> trade for 1 ducknote? [2015-12-02 16:17:12] habibi : duck duck no, too precious [2015-12-02 16:59:26] SnackyCoins : nom [2015-12-02 16:59:27] SnackyCoins : nom [2015-12-02 16:59:41] SnackyCoins : and the rest of it was pulled [2015-12-02 16:59:42] SnackyCoins : lol [2015-12-02 16:59:48] SnackyCoins : oh no it wasn't