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<< >> English 中文 Русский 한국어 日本語 Español Français [2017-04-28 13:07:48] KyllingLolsson : gl [2017-04-28 13:07:51] rapidtrades : no idea why LTC here rallied its flat on btce, plus bitcoin jumped [2017-04-28 13:08:02] shery : KyllingLolsson: sideways for a while and sub 1300 tommorow [2017-04-28 13:08:16] KyllingLolsson : shery: yeah sounds plausible [2017-04-28 13:08:38] rapidtrades : there will be no sideways, its too volatile for that [2017-04-28 13:08:56] rapidtrades : its gonna break, likely down today [2017-04-28 13:09:37] shery : rapidtrades: I am with you on breaking, How low r u expecting? [2017-04-28 13:09:49] laisee : 1313 imho [2017-04-28 13:10:00] shery : laisee: 1313 is low?\ [2017-04-28 13:10:16] rugu : eth drop more interesting than btc [2017-04-28 13:10:18] shery : laisee: we just did hit 1300 a while ago [2017-04-28 13:10:19] rapidtrades : 880 first target [2017-04-28 13:10:28] laisee : 1313 is a nice number [2017-04-28 13:10:31] KyllingLolsson : rapidtrades: im short anyways [2017-04-28 13:10:43] shery : KyllingLolsson: shorting works, longing sucks [2017-04-28 13:10:56] KyllingLolsson : shery: ye, im on x10 [2017-04-28 13:11:16] shery : KyllingLolsson: even 10x is dangerous with longing lol [2017-04-28 13:11:27] KyllingLolsson : shery: no im short x10 [2017-04-28 13:11:38] KyllingLolsson : https://www.tradingview.com/x/3L0rzBhx/ [2017-04-28 13:12:00] shery : KyllingLolsson: 10x is fine , [2017-04-28 13:12:16] rapidtrades : now getting paid 8% for 2 months in LTC [2017-04-28 13:12:32] rapidtrades : not great but can't find it anywhere else [2017-04-28 13:13:14] sleger : especially if it goes up 50% [2017-04-28 13:18:27] rapidtrades : sleger: I say stupid shit [2017-04-28 13:18:29] KyllingLolsson : soo btc doesnt want to [2017-04-28 13:18:35] KyllingLolsson : CANT EVEN [2017-04-28 13:19:25] rapidtrades : i guess this LTC arb is too safe for sleger, he likes to put his money in failing companies [2017-04-28 13:21:09] sleger : its not an arb, its just a carry trade [2017-04-28 13:21:45] rapidtrades : a de-factro arb [2017-04-28 13:22:17] rapidtrades : this looks like a blowout top to me [2017-04-28 13:22:56] rapidtrades : its how all of these scam rallies end [2017-04-28 13:22:56] shery : rapidtrades: could be a double top as well, 1350 of stamp [2017-04-28 13:23:13] rapidtrades : yes, perfect spot [2017-04-28 13:23:42] shery : rapidtrades: so another dive to 880 and then ride towards 2k till end of te year [2017-04-28 13:24:15] rapidtrades : no then we're in a bear market [2017-04-28 13:25:23] rapidtrades : its been almost 2 year bull market, so we need like 4-6 years bear/flat to even things out [2017-04-28 13:25:25] shery : rapidtrades: I dont think so, 1350 to 880 would be enough bear ,anything below that I dont think we will Go, [2017-04-28 13:25:55] rapidtrades : things can't go up forever, they never do [2017-04-28 13:25:56] KyllingLolsson : But why the extreme volatility since new year? [2017-04-28 13:25:58] j8 : 4-6 years? things move faster than that [2017-04-28 13:26:16] shery : KyllingLolsson: The more we go up, more it will be volitile [2017-04-28 13:26:31] rapidtrades : last one lasted 1.5 years [2017-04-28 13:26:32] KyllingLolsson : shery: look at the volatility from gox period [2017-04-28 13:26:46] KyllingLolsson : i know, different politics then [2017-04-28 13:26:53] KyllingLolsson : but still, patterns [2017-04-28 13:26:55] rapidtrades : 2 is conservative imo [2017-04-28 13:27:34] REKT : Liquidated short on `XRPM17`: buy 1 @ 0.00003421 [2017-04-28 13:27:40] j8 : 2 is reasonable, then hype starts for the next halving [2017-04-28 13:27:41] shery : rapidtrades: I guess you still believe that we will hit 500 , Lol [2017-04-28 13:27:53] shery : j8: when is the next halving [2017-04-28 13:28:05] j8 : i dunno they're 4 years apart more or less [2017-04-28 13:28:21] shery : j8: 2k20 [2017-04-28 13:28:47] j8 : yep [2017-04-28 13:28:48] shery : j8: Thats far away [2017-04-28 13:29:17] shery : j8: Halving hype was less than new year poumping [2017-04-28 13:29:17] j8 : we are talking about after 2 years of hypothetical bear market, that puts us at 2019 [2017-04-28 13:30:47] hendog : 2k20? [2017-04-28 13:31:09] rapidtrades : guess it all depends when the current maddness ends [2017-04-28 13:31:18] sleger : hendog: it's a "shortcut" for 2020 [2017-04-28 13:31:36] KyllingLolsson : Sideways @rapidtrades [2017-04-28 13:31:47] rapidtrades : we're at ATH and noone from the old guard here is bullish, so smth is rotten [2017-04-28 13:31:56] Ahhere : im bullish and im old school [2017-04-28 13:32:01] hendog : Nope. That would be 200020 [2017-04-28 13:32:39] hendog : And it's not shorter to write a k than a 0 is it ;( [2017-04-28 13:33:25] Sutan : GDAX is driving the price up like crazy [2017-04-28 13:33:36] j8 : i'm not bearish [2017-04-28 13:33:38] sleger : hendog: hence the quotes around shortcut [2017-04-28 13:33:56] Ahhere : real G's buy bitcoin til moon or rekt @rapidtrades [2017-04-28 13:34:04] frog : rapidtrades: when do you think ltc will drop? [2017-04-28 13:37:14] Maarten : Damn I didn't know there was a daily withdrawal time and I just missed it. Any admins online who could still help me get a small withdrawal through and confirmed? [2017-04-28 13:37:27] Actualiteit : why u need it so faast m8 [2017-04-28 13:37:34] Poo : Why is btxprice so high on mex [2017-04-28 13:37:37] Actualiteit : tomorrows another day [2017-04-28 13:37:43] Poo : /price [2017-04-28 13:37:45] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1320.53 (0.74%) Bitfinex : 1402.00 (0.94%) OKCоin : 1262.41 (2.55%) itBit : 1327.18 (1.29%) Kraken : 1327.86 (1.29%) GDAX : 1347.93 (2.27%) SLQ : 1 hour, 54 mins``` [2017-04-28 13:37:54] Maarten : I know tomorrow is another day, I am just used to the liquidity of my assets [2017-04-28 13:38:12] Poo : So following gdax [2017-04-28 13:38:24] Poo : okcoin? Interesting [2017-04-28 13:38:34] frog : Maarten: they save you money by aggregating the withdrawals [2017-04-28 13:38:53] Nutella : withdrawal fees aer too high here [2017-04-28 13:42:40] Maarten : Oh well I still issued a withdrawal, maybe they haven't finished them yet and I am still in todays batch [2017-04-28 13:43:48] Ahhere : Maarten: its for security they do them all in one batch so system is less likely to have mistakes everybody missed the deadline once. [2017-04-28 13:46:04] BitMEX_John : Maarten: there is no way to make exceptions to the withdrawal procedure [2017-04-28 13:46:26] BitMEX_John : Maarten: if you missed the 13:00UTC cutoff you will need to wait until tomorrow [2017-04-28 13:47:00] Maarten : Allright no problem [2017-04-28 13:47:10] podizzle3k : /sentiment [2017-04-28 13:47:12] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 71.27 / 28.73 Daily : 57.53 / 42.47 Weekly : 49.86 / 50.14 Monthly : 46.36 / 53.64``` [2017-04-28 13:47:18] podizzle3k : hmmm [2017-04-28 13:47:27] podizzle3k : thats why mark price much above i guess [2017-04-28 13:50:19] alfaCharlie : BitMEX Crypto Trader Digest. Quite an interesting read.? [2017-04-28 13:51:45] Tux26 : alfaCharlie: I find it very biased [2017-04-28 13:51:51] podizzle3k : wow everyone shorting btc or what [2017-04-28 13:52:04] podizzle3k : that sell/buy ratio got me messed up [2017-04-28 13:52:11] podizzle3k : usually its buy/sell [2017-04-28 13:52:26] Ahhere : i must be the only mug long.. ppl scared to BTFATH [2017-04-28 13:52:53] alfaCharlie : Tux26: at some points, its true [2017-04-28 13:53:31] Tux26 : alfaCharlie: right, but I don't understand the Bitmain bashing. They had a bug in their OSS code and promptly fixed it and apologized [2017-04-28 13:53:54] Tux26 : alfaCharlie: Also they could not kill miners not voting for BU because they don't know which pools they are mining [2017-04-28 13:54:07] Shoba : Tux26: lol [2017-04-28 13:54:09] Tux26 : alfaCharlie: So that is definitely not true [2017-04-28 13:55:11] BombaUcigasa : Tux26: lol [2017-04-28 13:55:41] BombaUcigasa : Your brain is blinding me with it's freshly bathed shine... [2017-04-28 13:59:28] Shoba : $6-7 swap discount, either someone is planning to dump, or people are being dumb [2017-04-28 14:02:11] atlanta : Where we at boys [2017-04-28 14:02:15] atlanta : Anything sweet to pick up ? [2017-04-28 14:02:48] Shoba : nah just short everything [2017-04-28 14:02:55] podizzle3k : time to short btc i think [2017-04-28 14:02:57] atlanta : gg no re u say? [2017-04-28 14:03:10] atlanta : Not shorting BTC, it's the most irrational market [2017-04-28 14:03:35] podizzle3k : bitfinex premium is dropping [2017-04-28 14:03:44] podizzle3k : i expect them to announce fiat withdraw any hour [2017-04-28 14:05:40] bbggc : are there more possible reasons? [2017-04-28 14:05:55] Guo : i lost 70%today [2017-04-28 14:06:07] Actualiteit : lol [2017-04-28 14:06:42] atlanta : Guo: what happened bro [2017-04-28 14:07:32] Sultan Pepper : Nub city [2017-04-28 14:08:14] Ahhere : who was market selling down to 1321 for the last 15 mins? [2017-04-28 14:08:21] bbggc : clues to why the gap between bitstamp and bitfinex is diminishing? [2017-04-28 14:08:49] Ahhere : /price [2017-04-28 14:08:51] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1325.22 (0.36%) Bitfinex : 1383.90 (-1.29%) OKCоin : 1238.80 (-1.87%) itBit : 1328.00 (0.06%) Kraken : 1324.02 (-0.29%) GDAX : 1345.20 (-0.20%) SLQ : 31 mins``` [2017-04-28 14:09:01] Ahhere : oh yeah 60 dollars nice [2017-04-28 14:09:30] j8 : you'll find out after the insiders take the free money [2017-04-28 14:09:32] sleger : china is also catching up [2017-04-28 14:09:50] Ahhere : how far down was china at peak premium ? @sleger [2017-04-28 14:10:33] Ahhere : still $90 below stamp [2017-04-28 14:10:33] j8 : china was -18% relative to bitmex index, less than a week ago [2017-04-28 14:10:48] j8 : that's the lowest i saw it [2017-04-28 14:11:58] Guo : people cannt get coin out in china [2017-04-28 14:12:35] REKT : Liquidated short on `XRPM17`: buy 2000 @ 0.00003470 [2017-04-28 14:19:29] Poo : Funding rate is ridiculous [2017-04-28 14:31:31] shiroe : so much premium in here. [2017-04-28 14:35:15] raver36 : Poo: yeah [2017-04-28 14:36:18] raver36 : what are the bots doing in the chat? [2017-04-28 14:37:35] Guo : we can communicate with others [2017-04-28 14:44:08] BitMEX_John : raver36: they aren't necessarily in the chat, they are just trading bots connected to BitMEX (via API) [2017-04-28 14:45:03] Diplomata : /sentiment [2017-04-28 14:45:05] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 70.44 / 29.56 Daily : 60.29 / 39.71 Weekly : 50.13 / 49.87 Monthly : 46.41 / 53.60``` [2017-04-28 14:50:19] NeoXx : BitMEX_John: do you have any suggestion for a bot to use that works with bitmex? I'm only familiar with Java so some for example github project would be beneficial [2017-04-28 14:50:51] BitMEX_John : NeoXx: we have a sample market maker bot but it is not written in Java [2017-04-28 14:51:12] NeoXx : BitMEX_John: where can I check it out? [2017-04-28 14:51:20] shiroe : lol xrp bids [2017-04-28 14:51:20] BitMEX_John : NeoXx: there is a lot of good documentation on it though and also a seminar video Arthur did [2017-04-28 14:51:30] BitMEX_John : NeoXx: I'll grab you some links one moment [2017-04-28 14:51:36] NeoXx : BitMEX_John: thanks [2017-04-28 14:53:12] BitMEX_John : NeoXx: Github - https://github.com/BitMEX/sample-market-maker Seminar - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QE4qon16N6o Slideshow - https://docs.google.com/a/bitmex.com/presentation/d/1f7ZsQ6_LAZ5EtlVXjaqaHagNDtrJDUGmylyCQ3i44b4/ [2017-04-28 14:53:25] BitMEX_John : NeoXx: let me know if you need any further help :) [2017-04-28 14:54:06] NeoXx : BitMEX_John: thanks a lot [2017-04-28 14:57:43] rapidtrades : /price [2017-04-28 14:57:46] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1322.35 (-0.22%) Bitfinex : 1392.00 (0.59%) OKCоin : 1244.50 (0.46%) itBit : 1319.61 (-0.63%) Kraken : 1325.00 (0.07%) GDAX : 1339.67 (-0.41%) SLQ : 48 mins``` [2017-04-28 14:58:15] rapidtrades : ^ china withdrawals coming bby [2017-04-28 14:59:53] alfaCharlie : rapidtrades: whats ur price prediction over it ? [2017-04-28 15:00:17] rapidtrades : OKCоin : 1244.50 [2017-04-28 15:00:36] rapidtrades : sounds like a good target [2017-04-28 15:00:59] rapidtrades : initially, first wave [2017-04-28 15:01:00] BitMEX_John : NeoXx: you may also be interested in this https://github.com/BitMEX/api-connectors/ [2017-04-28 15:02:10] rapidtrades : LTC gap closing too, so not just BTC phenomenon [2017-04-28 15:02:27] NeoXx : BitMEX_John: thanks again, saved those links [2017-04-28 15:02:36] rapidtrades : i think their game is to juice up china prices in effort to keep ppl htere [2017-04-28 15:03:11] rapidtrades : cos if ppl can both get higher prices at west and free trading, they will move there , like almost everyone [2017-04-28 15:03:22] alfaCharlie : hmm [2017-04-28 15:03:29] rapidtrades : so they have to close the gap before [2017-04-28 15:04:10] level2 : why is up ripple? [2017-04-28 15:04:35] mdsmm : bc people want to make money [2017-04-28 15:04:45] mdsmm : buy it [2017-04-28 15:05:24] rapidtrades : only 2.5 days till gnosis goes on polo people, these tokens wont be cheap forever [2017-04-28 15:05:51] mdsmm : rapidtrades: u long [2017-04-28 15:06:15] mdsmm : I scrambled 5 of them haha [2017-04-28 15:07:25] rapidtrades : there are ppl buying LTC at 10% premium here, unreal [2017-04-28 15:07:42] mdsmm : hype much [2017-04-28 15:08:02] rapidtrades : u are paying $16.14, if ur too lazy to do the math [2017-04-28 15:11:26] zqooN : yup end of the 7d and trading the new Junes now everything is at a premium [2017-04-28 15:12:23] zqooN : I'm gonna miss the friday quick scalps [2017-04-28 15:24:35] wiz : rapidtrades: with all the good news coming for LTC soon, why is that strange? the futures contract settlement in 62 days will surely be more than 10% higher than what it is now, no? [2017-04-28 15:27:20] hedgehog0223 : Does anyone know a good BTC trading bot for this site? [2017-04-28 15:27:54] BitMEX_John : hedgehog0223: have you seen our sample market making bot? [2017-04-28 15:28:08] hedgehog0223 : not really [2017-04-28 15:28:33] hedgehog0223 : i would need something like a programmable bot [2017-04-28 15:29:10] hedgehog0223 : I found some cloud based options but they dont support BitMex [2017-04-28 15:29:12] BitMEX_John : hedgehog0223: Github - https://github.com/BitMEX/sample-market-maker Seminar - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QE4qon16N6o Slideshow - https://docs.google.com/a/bitmex.com/presentation/d/1f7ZsQ6_LAZ5EtlVXjaqaHagNDtrJDUGmylyCQ3i44b4/ [2017-04-28 15:29:37] hedgehog0223 : thank you sir! [2017-04-28 15:30:25] BitMEX_John : hedgehog0223: no worries, the seminar covers both market making and algo trading in general :) [2017-04-28 15:30:48] hedgehog0223 : very cool [2017-04-28 15:34:31] Alexandrg1974 : /sentiment [2017-04-28 15:34:34] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 34.43 / 65.57 Daily : 61.68 / 38.32 Weekly : 50.14 / 49.86 Monthly : 46.42 / 53.58``` [2017-04-28 15:40:33] Farzad2 : /rekt [2017-04-28 15:40:34] trollbot : ``` 3 recent REKTs > 100K: ``` ``` 4 hours, 15 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 109090 @ 1311.8 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished: ``` ``` 18 hours, 58 mins ago: Liquidated short on `XBTM17`: buy 100166 @ 1367.3 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished: ``` ``` 19 hours, 27 mins ago: Liquidated short on `XBTM17`: buy 186847 @ 1359.3 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished: ``` [2017-04-28 15:40:45] Farzad2 : /rrekt [2017-04-28 15:40:45] trollbot : ``` 3 all time high REKTs: ``` ``` 18 days, 23 hours, 46 mins ago: Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 833000 @ 1199.3 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire: ``` ``` 42 days, 12 hours, 3 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 689089 @ 1126.18 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire: ``` ``` 41 days, 9 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 656927 @ 985.40 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire: ``` [2017-04-28 15:47:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `XRPM17`: buy 15000 @ 0.00003711 [2017-04-28 15:54:19] Rohil : BitMEX_John: Is the ripple chart on trading view? they have XRP7D from Bitmex, but its got the wrong price [2017-04-28 15:54:55] Poo : /price [2017-04-28 15:54:58] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1328.96 (0.50%) Bitfinex : 1393.50 (0.11%) OKCоin : 1245.00 (0.04%) itBit : 1327.99 (0.64%) Kraken : 1324.32 (-0.05%) GDAX : 1341.52 (0.14%) SLQ : 57 mins``` [2017-04-28 15:55:02] BitMEX_John : Rohil: at this time I believe they only have our bitcoin swap and quarterly on there [2017-04-28 15:55:56] Rohil : ah rip [2017-04-28 15:56:48] BitMEX_John : Rohil: we have tried getting them to properly include our altcoins [2017-04-28 15:57:19] BitMEX_John : Rohil: if you would like to see this please send them an email or message them in their chat [2017-04-28 16:06:39] Rohil : okay will do! thank you [2017-04-28 16:06:56] Rohil : May I ask how you have trading view charts but they arent actually on trading view lol...? [2017-04-28 16:07:18] Rohil : BitMEX_John: ^^ [2017-04-28 16:10:41] BitMEX_John : Rohil: on our site it is simply a library/API integration [2017-04-28 16:10:49] BitMEX_John : Rohil: their site is managed seperatly [2017-04-28 16:14:50] Rohil : BitMEX_John: http://gsfn.us/t/50i6y [2017-04-28 16:15:25] Rohil : Wrote to their feature request site. If we can get enough likes on it, they may be able to notice it [2017-04-28 16:17:10] BitMEX_John : Rohil: nice one ? [2017-04-28 16:30:01] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETC7D`: buy 200 @ 0.003793 [2017-04-28 16:37:57] Nutella : buy buy LTC [2017-04-28 16:38:11] Nutella : bye lol [2017-04-28 16:39:14] wiz : you shorting LTC ? i kinda felt it would go down to 0.0105 ish before starting the next uptrend [2017-04-28 16:39:43] Nutella : every smart short LTC [2017-04-28 16:43:21] Nutella : u get paid 9% to short [2017-04-28 16:46:22] rapidtrades : Ferdous: Very happy to see LTC at 14+ NVC 4+ NMC PPC 1.17+ Eth65+ Dash76+. This is the best sign of crypto rising in the world economy. Welcome to the economy of value. Welcome to the chain of Trust. There is no boundary in our way to financial freedom. [2017-04-28 16:46:48] rapidtrades : ^ idiots like this will baghold all the way down [2017-04-28 16:46:58] Ahhere : seems like a smart guy [2017-04-28 16:47:39] rapidtrades : lol [2017-04-28 16:48:35] rapidtrades : with segwit done, most of the tail risk is gone for LTC [2017-04-28 16:48:45] rapidtrades : much safer to shrot now [2017-04-28 16:48:59] Ahhere : what about coinbase and lightning network in 10 days [2017-04-28 16:49:21] rapidtrades : they have the coinbase thing but that's a $1 pop maybe? will be good to short into [2017-04-28 16:49:44] rapidtrades : f*ck lighting network, its a scam [2017-04-28 16:50:00] rapidtrades : doubtful the code will be even ready [2017-04-28 16:50:14] Ahhere : why didnt they just call it scam network then? much easier for everyone [2017-04-28 16:50:32] Ahhere : they already did lightning network transactions on testnet [2017-04-28 16:50:59] Ahhere : scam testnet [2017-04-28 16:51:30] rapidtrades : 2.5 mind for transaction or 1 sec, who cares [2017-04-28 16:51:58] rapidtrades : if ppl wanted speed and low fees they would've used ltc 1 year ago [2017-04-28 16:53:04] rapidtrades : also its up 4x so everything is over priced in, do u think litecoin users will go up 4x? [2017-04-28 16:53:14] Ahhere : true but actual development will move to ltc so speculators will find it a tastier prospect [2017-04-28 16:53:21] Ahhere : as shit gets deployed [2017-04-28 16:53:40] rapidtrades : noone has commited yet [2017-04-28 16:53:47] Ahhere : i commit [2017-04-28 16:53:57] rapidtrades : they have 2 devs and part time charlie [2017-04-28 16:54:09] Ahhere : lol part time charlie [2017-04-28 16:54:45] Ahhere : charlie will be busy lambo shopping for a few weeks so part time and on vaycay charlie [2017-04-28 16:55:03] Ahhere : he sure made that segwit shit happen tho [2017-04-28 16:57:18] rapidtrades : no devs are happy about sharing power with miners tho [2017-04-28 16:57:40] rapidtrades : did u read that post by shaolinfry? basically a FU to miners [2017-04-28 16:57:52] startChat : devs have power? [2017-04-28 16:58:02] rapidtrades : lot prolly view LTC as sellout coin now [2017-04-28 16:58:30] Ahhere : rapidtrades: the one saying basically the community doesnt have to stick to the agreement? [2017-04-28 16:58:50] rapidtrades : yes [2017-04-28 16:59:04] rapidtrades : only charlie agreed to it he says [2017-04-28 16:59:13] Ahhere : well the community didnt make the deal that is true lol [2017-04-28 17:00:09] Ahhere : but the miners knew that they had no guarantees, just wanted to make it look like they had power for the real deal [2017-04-28 17:01:24] Ahhere : with bitcoin [2017-04-28 17:02:14] rapidtrades : this shows what a joke crypto 'currencies' are, they will never be stable store of value [2017-04-28 17:02:46] rapidtrades : there's a physical limit to mining gold, no limit to human stupidity [2017-04-28 17:03:05] Ahhere : agreed just like enron showed us that companies are never a useful way to organise businesses [2017-04-28 17:04:13] rapidtrades : as time goes on, all decisions will be made on short-term profit like with LTC [2017-04-28 17:04:26] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 464 @ 1324.6 [2017-04-28 17:04:35] rapidtrades : lets get segwits even tho its useless so the market will rally [2017-04-28 17:05:23] rapidtrades : they sold their soul to Jihan for a pump [2017-04-28 17:05:49] Ahhere : 'useless' [2017-04-28 17:06:13] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 15617 @ 1318.2 [2017-04-28 17:08:10] rapidtrades : watch the news, china could allow withdrawals soon [2017-04-28 17:09:01] rapidtrades : /price [2017-04-28 17:09:03] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1308.26 (-1.56%) Bitfinex : 1385.50 (-0.57%) OKCоin : 1242.02 (-0.24%) itBit : 1313.24 (-1.11%) Kraken : 1313.32 (-0.83%) GDAX : 1320.20 (-1.59%) SLQ : 1 hour, 14 mins``` [2017-04-28 17:14:35] j8 : okc top holder added big the last 2 days [2017-04-28 17:15:27] 4697 : rapidtrades: which way would you expect that to cause price to move [2017-04-28 17:15:40] Ahhere : https://twitter.com/SatoshiLite/status/858003203052281856 [2017-04-28 17:16:10] Actualiteit : 4697: yes [2017-04-28 17:16:31] Ahhere : @rapidtrades^^ [2017-04-28 17:26:54] Blair : litecoin still got the chance to boost [2017-04-28 17:26:55] Blair : ? [2017-04-28 17:27:33] Ahhere : imo yes. and i have 6 figures betting on it. @Blair [2017-04-28 17:28:09] Ahhere : but it could be a sell the news thing for a while first [2017-04-28 17:28:35] Blair : it's good time to get in now still ? [2017-04-28 17:29:06] Blair : so far, which is most potential in the contract , u guess ? [2017-04-28 17:29:07] Ahhere : Blair: who knows [2017-04-28 17:29:15] Ahhere : premium here is high tho [2017-04-28 17:29:48] Blair : bitcoin seems stepping down a little bit [2017-04-28 17:30:19] Blair : i believe it will continue to move up , until the result from SEC about ETF [2017-04-28 17:30:37] Ahhere : market doesnt care that much about etf I think [2017-04-28 17:32:40] Blair : Ahhere: give me some advice, which one is good to buy now ? [2017-04-28 17:32:44] Blair : any idea ? [2017-04-28 17:32:54] Ahhere : lol why would u trust me? [2017-04-28 17:33:00] Ahhere : to be impartial [2017-04-28 17:33:05] brouk : lol [2017-04-28 17:33:09] Blair : hehe [2017-04-28 17:33:19] Blair : wanna to hear more voice and msg [2017-04-28 17:33:30] Blair : the secret is there , i believe [2017-04-28 17:33:37] j8 : buy Gnosis... for reasons [2017-04-28 17:34:00] Blair : Gnosis is just shooting down since past few days [2017-04-28 17:34:35] Ahhere : to be fair everything seems to be rising against the dollar. against bitcoin its a crapshoot imo [2017-04-28 17:35:02] j8 : buy ripple then, it went up [2017-04-28 17:35:32] Blair : I think ripple is already on the way from top to down [2017-04-28 17:35:52] Blair : the best price is 43% in one hour ago [2017-04-28 17:36:50] Ahhere : everything has pretty much pumped recently which coin has not pumped? [2017-04-28 17:38:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `XMRM17`: buy 4 @ 0.018051 [2017-04-28 17:43:18] shery : wtf xrp [2017-04-28 17:45:33] Ahhere : jesus eth got another billion since yesterday [2017-04-28 17:48:33] rugu : xrp ready for a short? [2017-04-28 17:48:52] Ahhere : looks ready [2017-04-28 17:54:51] thomaskikansha : eth broke .05 so easily [2017-04-28 17:59:12] atlanta : whats up boys [2017-04-28 17:59:20] atlanta : Everyone having a good time ? [2017-04-28 18:01:52] CBF : *tumbleweed* [2017-04-28 18:02:35] atlanta : yeah [2017-04-28 18:02:37] atlanta : alright [2017-04-28 18:02:40] atlanta : well atleast i am [2017-04-28 18:02:44] atlanta : ETH having a good time [2017-04-28 18:13:11] shiroe : btc ready for short. [2017-04-28 18:25:12] mcstanky : /setiment [2017-04-28 18:25:49] atlanta : /sentiment [2017-04-28 18:25:52] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 66.21 / 33.79 Daily : 62.52 / 37.49 Weekly : 50.07 / 49.93 Monthly : 46.39 / 53.61``` [2017-04-28 18:25:52] atlanta : Let me fix that for you [2017-04-28 18:26:37] mcstanky : ty [2017-04-28 18:28:56] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTM17`: sell 100000 @ 1322.9 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished: [2017-04-28 18:30:26] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 1000 @ 1315.0 [2017-04-28 18:31:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 1000 @ 1311.7 [2017-04-28 18:31:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 10 @ 1310.7 [2017-04-28 18:31:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 1000 @ 1313.2 [2017-04-28 18:31:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 10000 @ 1312.7 [2017-04-28 18:31:17] REKT : Abandon the ship! [2017-04-28 18:31:27] Ahhere : Yikes [2017-04-28 18:31:31] rugu : lol [2017-04-28 18:31:49] atlanta : House is coming down boys [2017-04-28 18:31:56] atlanta : Every man for himself [2017-04-28 18:32:48] shiroe : zing! what is our magic number? 1111? [2017-04-28 18:32:52] shiroe : or 1234? lol [2017-04-28 18:33:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `LTCM17`: buy 5 @ 0.01227 [2017-04-28 18:33:27] Ahhere : is this how it ends? :,( @shiroe [2017-04-28 18:37:54] Farzad2 : /rekt [2017-04-28 18:37:54] trollbot : ``` 3 recent REKTs > 100K: ``` ``` 8 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTM17`: sell 100000 @ 1322.9 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished: ``` ``` 7 hours, 13 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 109090 @ 1311.8 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished: ``` ``` 21 hours, 55 mins ago: Liquidated short on `XBTM17`: buy 100166 @ 1367.3 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished: ``` [2017-04-28 18:38:38] shiroe : to short more or to cover. Hmm.. waiting for a $100 more drop. [2017-04-28 18:38:57] Farzad2 : 0.15% in 1 hour 20 mins :D [2017-04-28 18:40:25] emcor : does anyone know what happened to bitcoin? [2017-04-28 18:40:47] atlanta : emcor: It became outdated [2017-04-28 18:40:59] hmmmYea : emcor: peter todd [2017-04-28 18:41:20] Farzad2 : bitcoin is done [2017-04-28 18:41:25] Farzad2 : road to $1 [2017-04-28 18:41:30] aethlios : i like the ltc arb, 0.15% per day, not bad [2017-04-28 18:41:41] rugu : aethlios: what arb? [2017-04-28 18:42:18] aethlios : ltc premium here. [2017-04-28 18:44:38] 5bg : is it possible to reorder the list of coins across the top [2017-04-28 18:45:37] 5bg : the ones with the percentages under them [2017-04-28 18:45:44] rugu : dont think so [2017-04-28 18:46:20] justinlooking : twood be neat [2017-04-28 18:47:24] shiroe : arrange it alphabetically after btc would be cool. [2017-04-28 18:47:27] Actualiteit : Farzad2: $1 is wayy too bu;llish, we're going sub 1 cent m80 [2017-04-28 18:48:00] shiroe : like zec from 10 btc to 0.04? lol [2017-04-28 18:48:10] 5bg : some are off screen on one of my monitors so it's awkward to change between [2017-04-28 18:48:24] 5bg : need to see that gno [2017-04-28 18:48:43] rugu : ots being added to other exchanges on 1st may [2017-04-28 18:48:48] rugu : prices going to spike [2017-04-28 18:49:21] Farzad2 : who wants 4% guaranteed profit per month ? [2017-04-28 18:49:32] Farzad2 : I can tell u how to do it [2017-04-28 18:49:47] Farzad2 : :D [2017-04-28 18:49:51] justinlooking : do it [2017-04-28 18:49:54] atlanta : Tell us [2017-04-28 18:49:56] 5bg : Farzad2: tell everyone and it won't be 4% for long [2017-04-28 18:50:00] 5bg : so shut up [2017-04-28 18:50:02] Farzad2 : lol [2017-04-28 18:50:08] Makimoto : i do tell me [2017-04-28 18:50:14] Farzad2 : should I keep it as a secret for ourselves ? [2017-04-28 18:50:29] hmmmYea : *rolls eyes* [2017-04-28 18:50:40] 5bg : Farzad2: I used to play poker for a living, we had a saying [2017-04-28 18:50:46] 5bg : dont teach the table [2017-04-28 18:51:22] Farzad2 : LTCM17 has 8% premium here, it expires in 2 months. sell it here, buy it on spot price, w8 2 months. u make 8% [2017-04-28 18:51:32] Farzad2 : u can even gain more by leveraging it [2017-04-28 18:51:50] Farzad2 : easy moneyyyy [2017-04-28 18:52:10] atlanta : Do you guys want to tell him or should i ? [2017-04-28 18:52:14] rugu : i dont think it works like that [2017-04-28 18:52:17] hmmmYea : and now you guys know why farzad is a developer and not a trader [2017-04-28 18:52:23] 5bg : thats only a guaranteed 4% ltc [2017-04-28 18:53:08] Farzad2 : enlighten me boys [2017-04-28 18:53:19] j8 : it's 4% btc actually [2017-04-28 18:53:26] Farzad2 : j8: +1 [2017-04-28 18:53:34] thomaskikansha : 0.5% fee to buy/sell spot [2017-04-28 18:53:41] Farzad2 : hmmmYea: tell me why I am not a trader :D [2017-04-28 18:54:15] Farzad2 : thomaskikansha: OK, thats 0.5%, you end up with 7.5%. lol [2017-04-28 18:54:36] Farzad2 : leverage that, you can make it 15% or 30% [2017-04-28 18:54:55] alfaCharlie : I have a 100% method in a day [2017-04-28 18:54:56] j8 : the only real issue with it is you could get ADL'd and have a net loss getting back in [2017-04-28 18:55:01] alfaCharlie : or within 30 minutes [2017-04-28 18:55:29] hmmmYea : Farzad2: dont have to, 5bg already did [2017-04-28 18:55:43] Farzad2 : j8: true, but if u trade with low leverage, the possibility of ADL is so low. I have never ADL'ed (knock on wood) [2017-04-28 18:55:46] alfaCharlie : SHORT btc @ 100x now for -$14 [2017-04-28 18:55:48] alfaCharlie : ;p [2017-04-28 18:55:51] thomaskikansha : Farzad2: well some easy profits that is [2017-04-28 18:56:05] j8 : you might also lend the LTC you bought on poloniex for extra return, extra risk though [2017-04-28 18:56:07] Farzad2 : hmmmYea: what ? he was wrong ! lol [2017-04-28 18:56:17] hmmmYea : mmmmk [2017-04-28 18:56:26] Poo : /sentiment [2017-04-28 18:56:28] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 65.66 / 34.34 Daily : 62.29 / 37.71 Weekly : 50.12 / 49.88 Monthly : 46.34 / 53.66``` [2017-04-28 18:56:48] micmix : spread here and on polo, adl risk, counterparty risk, and only about 10 btc on the books [2017-04-28 18:57:11] Farzad2 : micmix: hey buddy, how r u doing ? [2017-04-28 18:57:17] Poo : This is no good [2017-04-28 18:57:26] Farzad2 : my MM bot is live now :D [2017-04-28 18:57:34] hmmmYea : micmix: and also liquidity risk... which i think is the biggest in the scenario farzad2 outlined [2017-04-28 18:57:53] Farzad2 : hmmmYea: what is liquidity risk ? [2017-04-28 18:58:07] micmix : Farzad2: doing ok but volumes here been lacking :-( [2017-04-28 18:58:14] hmmmYea : Farzad2: im not here to teach [2017-04-28 18:58:39] hmmmYea : unlike u [2017-04-28 18:58:40] Farzad2 : hmmmYea: lol, yeah yeah. because u have nothing to offer. [2017-04-28 18:59:04] Farzad2 : I dont care about 4%/mo. so it is all yours [2017-04-28 18:59:06] micmix : at least funding was nice [2017-04-28 18:59:13] hmmmYea : Farzad2: i am offering you nothing, if thats what you mean. [2017-04-28 18:59:35] Farzad2 : hmmmYea: you offering me nothing and offering others wrong information ! good job [2017-04-28 18:59:39] thomaskikansha : coinbase keeps pushing down...can it be double bottom [2017-04-28 18:59:52] hmmmYea : Farzad2: no sir... you are the only offering misinformation [2017-04-28 19:00:14] Farzad2 : micmix: may I ask what profit percentage do u make by your MM bot per month ? [2017-04-28 19:00:21] hmmmYea : explaining dangerous trades to noobs as if they are free money [2017-04-28 19:00:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `DASHM17`: buy 5 @ 0.065609 [2017-04-28 19:00:40] sleger : hmmmYea: be careful or he will ban you [2017-04-28 19:00:44] j8 : no worse than the Crypto Digest [2017-04-28 19:00:48] hmmmYea : meh [2017-04-28 19:01:00] Farzad2 : hmmmYea: there is actually ez money in crypto. thats why we are all here. [2017-04-28 19:01:13] micmix : Farzad2: my goal is 1% daily in USD terms [2017-04-28 19:01:20] hmmmYea : sleger: if i have risk banning, to point out borderline unethical advice... im ok with that [2017-04-28 19:01:53] Farzad2 : micmix: nice, I am testing my bot and I am also getting 1%/day in average but in BTC terms [2017-04-28 19:01:54] hmmmYea : Farzad2: the customers of this site are net losers as a population. that is not "easy money" [2017-04-28 19:02:03] hmmmYea : this site is zero sum [2017-04-28 19:02:12] hmmmYea : negative sum with fees [2017-04-28 19:02:39] Farzad2 : hmmmYea: true, thats because they dont trade smart. like I explained. [2017-04-28 19:02:47] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 4800 @ 1305.9 [2017-04-28 19:02:47] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 54988 @ 1306.0 **MEGA-REKT** :boom: [2017-04-28 19:02:58] Farzad2 : smart traders are making good money here [2017-04-28 19:03:00] hmmmYea : Farzad2: what you explained is absolutely terrible advice [2017-04-28 19:03:01] j8 : in USD value they are net winners [2017-04-28 19:03:10] sleger : /remind me to ask farzad about his bot in 1 month [2017-04-28 19:03:12] hmmmYea : for anyone getting trading advice from a troll box [2017-04-28 19:03:14] micmix : j8: :+1: [2017-04-28 19:04:21] Farzad2 : sleger: currently is the worst period for MM bots, MM bots hate trending markets [2017-04-28 19:04:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 20 @ 1304.8 [2017-04-28 19:04:29] j8 : i've seen much worse advice in the trollbox, honestly [2017-04-28 19:04:34] sleger : Farzad2: how do you know ? [2017-04-28 19:04:51] thomaskikansha : Farzad2: range markets would be decent? [2017-04-28 19:04:53] hmmmYea : sleger: oh thats in investopedia [2017-04-28 19:04:56] sleger : mm does not stand for mean reversion [2017-04-28 19:05:05] Farzad2 : sleger: may be because of 10 years of trading xp ? [2017-04-28 19:05:05] sleger : cause that would be mr [2017-04-28 19:05:15] micmix : Farzad2: what? for naive MMs maybe [2017-04-28 19:05:22] sleger : oh you have trading experience ? what kind ? @Farzad2 [2017-04-28 19:05:33] rugu : that market making bot in python on github may not work very well on bitmex cause of the spreads [2017-04-28 19:05:33] hmmmYea : this aint a retial fx bucket shop, my friend [2017-04-28 19:05:40] sleger : because i have trading exp too and i dont agree with that [2017-04-28 19:05:42] hmmmYea : retail* [2017-04-28 19:05:57] Farzad2 : sleger: dont agree with what ? [2017-04-28 19:06:05] sleger : mm bots lose in trends [2017-04-28 19:06:11] sleger : ^ wrong [2017-04-28 19:06:19] sleger : or as micmix said, bad ones maybe [2017-04-28 19:06:29] Farzad2 : sleger: lol, u r so noob. it is common knowledge. [2017-04-28 19:06:38] irvingtrader : so, buy time? [2017-04-28 19:06:38] CrazySteve : /sentiment [2017-04-28 19:06:41] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 56.77 / 43.23 Daily : 62.33 / 37.67 Weekly : 50.12 / 49.88 Monthly : 46.35 / 53.65``` [2017-04-28 19:06:41] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTM17`: sell 2475 @ 1312.4 [2017-04-28 19:06:44] rugu : soo he is the new troll here? [2017-04-28 19:06:47] j8 : if you're running a losing MM... please continue [2017-04-28 19:06:53] CrazySteve : /price [2017-04-28 19:06:56] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1301.03 (-0.55%) Bitfinex : 1368.90 (-1.20%) OKCоin : 1231.87 (-0.82%) itBit : 1305.69 (-0.57%) Kraken : 1292.14 (-1.61%) GDAX : 1305.57 (-1.11%) SLQ : 1 hour, 57 mins``` [2017-04-28 19:06:56] j8 : don't listen to these guys [2017-04-28 19:07:03] sleger : Farzad2: what is your trading exp ? doing what ? [2017-04-28 19:07:15] sleger : j8: good advice right there ! [2017-04-28 19:07:18] Farzad2 : sleger: Forex and Crypto [2017-04-28 19:07:28] sleger : doing what [2017-04-28 19:07:40] Farzad2 : sleger: trading and developing bots [2017-04-28 19:07:43] sleger : coding bots for other people ? trading your money by hand ? [2017-04-28 19:07:55] hmmmYea : sleger: retail internet forex [2017-04-28 19:08:04] sleger : trading by hand will teach you about 2% you need to know about MM bots [2017-04-28 19:08:28] micmix : my mm makes much more in strong trends, i hate low volatility range-bound conditions [2017-04-28 19:08:57] sleger : micmix: BUT "Farzad2: sleger: lol, u r so noob. it is common knowledge." [2017-04-28 19:09:10] Farzad2 : micmix: well, this is not a pure MM bot then. [2017-04-28 19:09:23] sleger : micmix: u r so noob [2017-04-28 19:09:49] micmix : lol, it is not a naive mm, no [2017-04-28 19:09:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTM17`: sell 14617 @ 1311.1 [2017-04-28 19:10:36] Farzad2 : micmix: actually good for u. I will try to do the same. improve my bot for trending markets. [2017-04-28 19:10:41] Dynamix : Short eth mby ? :) [2017-04-28 19:11:09] Farzad2 : but by definition, MM bots hate trending markets. because u trade against the trend. [2017-04-28 19:11:12] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 124 @ 1302.3 [2017-04-28 19:11:12] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 15000 @ 1301.7 [2017-04-28 19:11:24] 5bg : Dynamix: better wait until after the asian market wakes up [2017-04-28 19:11:38] Dynamix : Hmm fair enough [2017-04-28 19:11:39] Farzad2 : if market is trending, means u lose others win. [2017-04-28 19:11:49] sleger : i disagree [2017-04-28 19:11:51] micmix : Farzad2: you have a very narrow definition of MM, there are no such MMs in real world [2017-04-28 19:11:59] sleger : i agree [2017-04-28 19:12:30] micmix : at least not anyone who survives on real market for longer than a few month [2017-04-28 19:12:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 500 @ 1300.7 [2017-04-28 19:12:52] 5bg : I disagree with sleger's agreement of his disagreement [2017-04-28 19:13:05] sleger : ^ wrong [2017-04-28 19:13:35] micmix : I agree with sleger's agreement of our disagreements [2017-04-28 19:13:37] Farzad2 : micmix: so how do u think BitMex anchor market maker is profitable ? [2017-04-28 19:13:39] 5bg : swnt ....... help......... stuck .......... in.........feddback .......... loop [2017-04-28 19:13:49] Farzad2 : they are always in market [2017-04-28 19:14:33] Farzad2 : look at XBJM17 [2017-04-28 19:14:33] micmix : Farzad2: it has very strict delta limits, hedges exposure and has huge wallet [2017-04-28 19:14:37] sleger : well they only quote during non trends of course, cause thats the only way a MM bot can be profitable, its common knowledge [2017-04-28 19:14:59] sleger : ^ i learned that today [2017-04-28 19:15:08] justinlooking : trollol [2017-04-28 19:15:37] Farzad2 : sleger: it is the average that matters u noob [2017-04-28 19:15:46] sleger : Farzad2: please stay nice [2017-04-28 19:15:49] Farzad2 : they lose in trending markets [2017-04-28 19:15:59] sleger : dont call a noob someone who clearly knows much more about the subject [2017-04-28 19:16:24] sleger : i have been nothing more than polite, as per your requests [2017-04-28 19:16:33] hmmmYea : im gonna switch to caps [2017-04-28 19:17:01] hmmmYea : THE ONLY MARKETS THAT ARE GOOD TO TRADE ARE EXCITING MARKETS. THE ONLY MARKETS ARE EXCITING ARE TRENDING. [2017-04-28 19:17:14] hmmmYea : if your mm loses money when its exciting whats even the point? [2017-04-28 19:17:26] sleger : its the average that matters [2017-04-28 19:17:27] sleger : he said [2017-04-28 19:17:33] sleger : u noob