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[2023-09-04 15:14:43] slacker+ : yes
[2023-09-04 15:14:54] slacker+ : but it's fucking taking so long
[2023-09-04 15:15:29] Meth Monster : Nooooooommmmm where r u ??
[2023-09-04 15:20:30] BAM Trading : cmon berra, show some more teeth
[2023-09-04 15:20:37] BAM Trading : perhaps a littel of that claw action too
[2023-09-04 15:20:58] "it will be........" : noom getting rekt? of course he is :)
[2023-09-04 15:22:13] BAM Trading : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7lSkZf1468
[2023-09-04 15:26:57] Buckztr : 5min btfd btc https://www.tradingview.com/x/PS3RoIBj
[2023-09-04 15:36:01] Big T : bears rejected cause ugly
[2023-09-04 15:40:22] 9figrs : poor bullas need sp500 to pump for btc to pump 😆😆
[2023-09-04 15:41:20] fcarvas : Bears weak, they cannot break 25k
[2023-09-04 15:41:26] fcarvas : It's a long
[2023-09-04 15:42:56] 9figrs : not gonna lie whoever is long has some big nuts
[2023-09-04 15:43:12] 9figrs : everything is against the longers
[2023-09-04 15:43:18] 9figrs : SP500 is at resistance / top
[2023-09-04 15:44:48] BAM Trading : clown hour is here XD
[2023-09-04 15:45:02] BAM Trading : enjoy
[2023-09-04 15:45:50] BAM Trading : 9figrs: big nuts or small brains?
[2023-09-04 15:46:35] 9figrs : BAM Trading: probably small brains
[2023-09-04 15:46:56] 9figrs : but the free game im gonna say for the bullas, is that you need sp500 to help you out!!!
[2023-09-04 15:49:16] BAM Trading : bfore wqe get too hyped, let's first see that dxy above that 4.75
[2023-09-04 15:51:25] BAM Trading : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xEde1MFtTQ
[2023-09-04 15:51:57] BAM Trading : and by that i mean HOLD above it
[2023-09-04 15:57:54] Odomz : The chart is SUPER buggy today.
[2023-09-04 16:10:15] BAM Trading : Odomz: i wonder why?
[2023-09-04 16:10:44] Odomz : BAM Trading: any ideas?
[2023-09-04 16:10:45] BAM Trading : Sei doing exactly what it was made for
[2023-09-04 16:10:57] BAM Trading : sucking a bag of dicks
[2023-09-04 16:11:24] BAM Trading : for the peopel who don't know it's current situation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDSLmwUGP-8
[2023-09-04 16:14:35] BAM Trading : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fejSgYoyt7A
[2023-09-04 16:18:48] elChisoso : Only down to go, never ever up again.
[2023-09-04 16:20:24] elChisoso : Up has been banned from the chart sers.
[2023-09-04 16:28:49] BAM Trading : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88YpHLCP_dA
[2023-09-04 16:32:43] milion : poooomp itttt!
[2023-09-04 16:52:43] Dessos : >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYOTNCBPd4Y https://www.tradingview.com/x/Xc1aLYIR/
[2023-09-04 17:00:35] 100.00x : send send
[2023-09-04 17:08:38] SangFrais : who are theeeese people mang
[2023-09-04 17:15:13] milion : :)
[2023-09-04 17:15:41] LittleBuck : Pamp btc https://www.tradingview.com/x/GJJ1BX92
[2023-09-04 17:33:30] milion : time to start CYBER pamp part2 (the last one)
[2023-09-04 17:50:40] Atlemos : LittleBuck: 😲
[2023-09-04 17:52:24] Crazydodger : cheesefart
[2023-09-04 17:53:27] Crazydodger : 30k straight
[2023-09-04 17:58:42] fcarvas : Weak bears. Out of ammo to break 25k
[2023-09-04 17:59:42] 100.00x : we keep fueling
[2023-09-04 18:02:13] milion : CYBER pamp it!
[2023-09-04 18:15:00] elChisoso : Bear markets tend to provide lower prices.
[2023-09-04 18:15:32] 9figrs : But the bullmaxis promised me we pump all the time?
[2023-09-04 18:15:37] 9figrs : didnt know bear markets existed
[2023-09-04 18:32:01] GoldFish79 : 💦 :me: 💦
[2023-09-04 18:41:35] 100.00x : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIR3NU3P_bU
[2023-09-04 18:42:10] Rectile the reptile : 9figrs: since 2 years
[2023-09-04 18:43:27] riz2 : imagine being a bull in a proxy war, financial war and cyber war
[2023-09-04 18:43:41] magicaltux : riz2: where? i look outside, nothing
[2023-09-04 18:43:46] elChisoso : imagine being a bull at all.
[2023-09-04 18:50:11] LittleBuck : Pamp btc https://www.tradingview.com/x/EdqBAe73
[2023-09-04 19:02:15] BAM Trading : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9Riqy5RYo8
[2023-09-04 19:04:15] elChisoso : Store of value, lol.
[2023-09-04 19:04:27] elChisoso : Only down.
[2023-09-04 19:05:39] 9figrs : yeah someone mentioned other day that if we go into a war, people would buy bitcoin
[2023-09-04 19:05:46] 9figrs : but there is already a war happening right?
[2023-09-04 19:05:50] 9figrs : and no one buying bitcoin
[2023-09-04 19:06:42] Dr.LongBear : Giant musical chair game is never ending
[2023-09-04 19:07:50] elChisoso : The other week someone mentioned that all poor people in all poor countries will buy bitcoin with their last $10 because they had to to survive.
[2023-09-04 19:08:02] elChisoso : That would push the price to 46k.
[2023-09-04 19:09:17] elChisoso : The logic behind that statement is so faulty and so full of dreams. I dont think poor people is prioritizing bitcoin over food or rent.
[2023-09-04 19:09:33] Dario2 : 9figrs: I said if a direct war between eu and russia breaks out and people want to move to other countries and take their money with them, they will find bitcoin very handy, but last time I checked the war has not happened yet.
[2023-09-04 19:09:41] Atlemos : Dr.LongBear: Hello gangsta 😎
[2023-09-04 19:10:14] Dario2 : 9figrs: Also I said last week and last night that 22500-23500 should be possible at least considering the mtgox sell pressure
[2023-09-04 19:10:39] Atlemos : Dario2: Dario hows your wallet going?? https://www.bitmex.com/app/wallet/xbt
[2023-09-04 19:10:44] Atlemos : mine is going down
[2023-09-04 19:10:51] Atlemos : 😬
[2023-09-04 19:10:51] Zetroller : Be a real man, espectation is 0 or nothing otherwise you a balless bear.
[2023-09-04 19:11:02] Zetroller : :P
[2023-09-04 19:11:15] Dario2 : Atlemos: I am active on 16 different exchanges, sir. It's always a good idea to spread out your money
[2023-09-04 19:11:29] Dr.LongBear : Atlemos: Hello troll
[2023-09-04 19:12:24] 9figrs : Dario2: yeh well out of all the russians and ukrainians and countries around them the people that HAVE LEFT, how many of them bought bitcoin?
[2023-09-04 19:12:31] 9figrs : would be interesting to see the stats
[2023-09-04 19:12:35] Atlemos : i have problems with my deposit. do not hit right, slips in to arthur pocket all the time
[2023-09-04 19:12:45] Dario2 : 9figrs: There is no direct war between eu and russia atm. Are you denying this?
[2023-09-04 19:12:59] 9figrs : im talking about whats happening with russia and ukraine
[2023-09-04 19:13:03] 9figrs : you think no one has left yet?
[2023-09-04 19:13:08] 9figrs : people havent packed there bags?
[2023-09-04 19:13:09] Atlemos : Dario2: good point
[2023-09-04 19:13:23] 9figrs : now tell me, the people that did leave how many of them bought bitcoin
[2023-09-04 19:13:27] 9figrs : and if they did they are probably rekt
[2023-09-04 19:13:32] 9figrs : so first they lose there homeland
[2023-09-04 19:13:38] 9figrs : then next they lose all their savings in btc
[2023-09-04 19:13:41] 9figrs : :(
[2023-09-04 19:13:53] Dario2 : 9figrs: I didn't talk about the war between russia and ukraine. You should pay more attention
[2023-09-04 19:14:02] 9figrs : its still a war
[2023-09-04 19:14:26] 9figrs : I think if people are thinking about packing up if theres are war, they probably wont be worrying about buying BTC
[2023-09-04 19:14:35] 9figrs : they will just want to get out of there...
[2023-09-04 19:14:40] Dario2 : 9figrs: are you drunk, sir?
[2023-09-04 19:14:58] 9figrs : bro to think someone that is escaping war is gonna be like oh hold on let me deposit into binance and buy some bitcoin
[2023-09-04 19:15:05] 9figrs : is crazy
[2023-09-04 19:15:47] 9figrs : but yeah lets figure the stats of how many people in russia or ukraine that has left due to the war, bought BTC
[2023-09-04 19:18:50] elChisoso : Sounds logical to me, to create account, kyc yourself, buy bitcoin, move, sell bitcoin for local currency. go shop. I agree to this.
[2023-09-04 19:19:51] 9figrs : or bro, why wouldnt they just go deposit and hold USDT? move country
[2023-09-04 19:19:52] 9figrs : then cash out?
[2023-09-04 19:19:57] elChisoso : Because if banks works for buying bitcoin, they will also work to transfer to a different country as well. Or just use your card you already have.
[2023-09-04 19:20:12] 9figrs : why do they need to buy btc? when USDT is available
[2023-09-04 19:20:35] 9figrs : snookered the btc bull maxis... AGAIN
[2023-09-04 19:20:50] elChisoso : Why do they need to buy USDT when any other currency is available.
[2023-09-04 19:21:10] elChisoso : The whole reasoning is a bit absurd, not impossible, but a bit absurd.
[2023-09-04 19:21:25] 9figrs : this must be the btc maxis last hopium
[2023-09-04 19:21:31] 9figrs : WW3 EVERYONE GONNA BUY BTC
[2023-09-04 19:21:39] Dario2 : 9figrs: Again, I was not talking about the russian-ukrainian war. So you got your facts wrong. Second, here in netherlands when the war between those two countries started, there were many people who started withdrawing their money from bank and their account got frozen. It was on news.
[2023-09-04 19:22:07] Dario2 : They wanted to move to Canada or US
[2023-09-04 19:22:13] Dario2 : One guy withdrew 50K euro
[2023-09-04 19:22:19] 9figrs : Dario2: okay so if WW3 happens and people start wanting to move countries and take there money with, WHY bitcoin and not USDT? or USDC?
[2023-09-04 19:22:50] Dario2 : you can't take 50k with you on airplane, can you? but you can take bitcoin with you very easy
[2023-09-04 19:22:53] Dario2 : Now this happened when there was no war between my country and russia
[2023-09-04 19:22:58] 9figrs : what if they buy btc then they go on a boat to a new country then when they arrive its down 50%
[2023-09-04 19:23:04] Dario2 : imagine how many more people will do the same when a war breaks out
[2023-09-04 19:23:06] 9figrs : why bitcoin and not stable coins?
[2023-09-04 19:23:24] 9figrs : wouldnt it be safer to do stable coins for these people?
[2023-09-04 19:23:30] Dario2 : 9figrs: bitcoin is more popular but of course some may choose alt coins
[2023-09-04 19:24:53] GoldFish79 : @whale_alert · 4h 🚨 🚨 🚨 🚨 🚨 🚨 🚨 🚨 🚨 🚨 149,999 #ETH (243,241,083 USD) transferred from unknown wallet to #Coinbase
[2023-09-04 19:25:07] elChisoso : Odd that it seems like international bank transfers is completely ignored in this discussion. Moving countries is a well accepted reason for transfering large amounts cross border.
[2023-09-04 19:26:17] GoldFish79 : thats 6or 7... 1/4 billi ish size movements in a month
[2023-09-04 19:26:33] Dario2 : elChisoso: watch the news about the people withdrawing 50K euro from bank because they were afraid once the war breaks out, the banks will stop working for many different reasons
[2023-09-04 19:26:54] Zetroller : 9figrs: They hold
[2023-09-04 19:27:05] Zetroller : What else?
[2023-09-04 19:27:20] Zetroller : We as a comunity should get george cloone to replace matt diamond
[2023-09-04 19:27:40] Zetroller : WW3 -> BTC -> What else? (Clooney style)
[2023-09-04 19:27:52] Dario2 : 9figrs: yes, it may lose 50% value or may not. Same as trading, there is a risk to everything. Imagine taking 50K euro with you and someone steals all of it from you
[2023-09-04 19:27:56] 9figrs : anyway if it came to it and bombs were flying everywhere, I think, these people wouldnt care if they had there money or not, they just wanna get out there
[2023-09-04 19:28:00] 9figrs : people value their life not btc
[2023-09-04 19:28:14] 9figrs : be realistic
[2023-09-04 19:28:18] Zetroller : 9figrs: They value a life at the standard they got.
[2023-09-04 19:28:26] Zetroller : Not in poverty
[2023-09-04 19:28:33] Zetroller : They will want to move money
[2023-09-04 19:28:38] Dario2 : 9figrs: you should study what happened in ww2 and how Jews and some other people were trying to scape europe
[2023-09-04 19:28:46] Zetroller : Besides t-fuck do you do if the risk is WW3 or end of the world
[2023-09-04 19:28:47] Zetroller : ?
[2023-09-04 19:28:50] Zetroller : You fail to invest?
[2023-09-04 19:28:52] 9figrs : yeah and thats when everyone will be on UBI under the new system @Zetroller
[2023-09-04 19:29:25] Zetroller : 9figrs: UBI is just to keep people out of poverty and away from criminality.
[2023-09-04 19:29:38] Zetroller : UBI doesnt mean lets all stop trying to earn more than each other.
[2023-09-04 19:29:56] 9figrs : Zetroller: bruh i didnt say that at all lol
[2023-09-04 19:30:00] 9figrs : im talking about the people escaping war
[2023-09-04 19:30:08] 9figrs : if it was bombs flying everywhere
[2023-09-04 19:30:29] 9figrs : im sure the people that are at risk from dying in a war are happy to leave there bitcoin investment behind
[2023-09-04 19:30:52] Zetroller : 9figrs: We all saw how markets reacted during covid back when we didnt know the kill rate was of 1% nor that baillouts were comming.
[2023-09-04 19:30:58] Zetroller : Dumb people cashed out
[2023-09-04 19:31:02] Zetroller : Smart people bought
[2023-09-04 19:31:10] 9figrs : yeah covid was an iq test,
[2023-09-04 19:31:13] 9figrs : vax = low iq
[2023-09-04 19:31:14] Zetroller : The reason is if the world is going into a dark path
[2023-09-04 19:31:41] Zetroller : It either gets bad enough that nobody has anything not even their lives
[2023-09-04 19:31:46] Zetroller : or it gets better
[2023-09-04 19:31:47] Dario2 : elChisoso: Your reasoning that banks will remain functioning during war time is a bit absurd, sir.
[2023-09-04 19:31:49] Zetroller : so end of the world news
[2023-09-04 19:31:52] Zetroller : are a buy signal
[2023-09-04 19:31:55] Zetroller : not sell
[2023-09-04 19:32:06] 9figrs : Zetroller: bro im happy to profit off peoples suffering
[2023-09-04 19:32:29] Dario2 : 9figrs: wrong attitude, sir. NEver be happy when someone is suffering
[2023-09-04 19:32:37] Zetroller : I amm not going into whos suffering to earn from
[2023-09-04 19:32:43] 9figrs : you are NGMI @Dario2
[2023-09-04 19:32:52] Zetroller : all I amm saying is that end of the world news, either the world ends and all u got is worthless anyway
[2023-09-04 19:32:53] Dario2 : 9figrs: what's that?
[2023-09-04 19:33:04] Zetroller : or you invest and if it doesnt end you become wealthier
[2023-09-04 19:33:16] Zetroller : so war, pandemics, natural disasters etc
[2023-09-04 19:33:20] 9figrs : Zetroller: bruh this is basic investing, buy the feat
[2023-09-04 19:33:22] 9figrs : fear*
[2023-09-04 19:33:26] Zetroller : are buy signals
[2023-09-04 19:33:37] Zetroller : If tommorow there is a war between E.U and Russia
[2023-09-04 19:33:42] 9figrs : but the people having bombs dropped over there houses wont care about buying anything, they will just escape
[2023-09-04 19:33:48] Zetroller : all the more reason to go into the most speculative assets there are
[2023-09-04 19:33:56] Zetroller : not for utility
[2023-09-04 19:33:59] Zetroller : not for survival
[2023-09-04 19:34:15] Zetroller : but simply because if it gets better they are speculativve and get all the better
[2023-09-04 19:34:42] 9figrs : so the btc bullmaxis are praying a war happens to pamp btc ok
[2023-09-04 19:34:46] 9figrs : you guys more evil than me
[2023-09-04 19:35:47] Zetroller : 9figrs: I am not a BTC maxi, quite franjly if a pound of shit is more volatile/speclative in nature and has more maxis than BTC and there is a wolrd war I will go all in on pounds of shit
[2023-09-04 19:36:02] Zetroller : Reason being speculative, volatile but beyond it alll
[2023-09-04 19:36:11] Zetroller : Our answer to war and pandemics is always the same
[2023-09-04 19:36:14] Zetroller : pritn money
[2023-09-04 19:36:24] Zetroller : anything goes up in value during those situations
[2023-09-04 19:36:25] Dario2 : 9figrs: I am not a bull maxi at all. I was only talking about one of the possibilities that bitcoin could pump. You are not paying any attention. How could I be a bull maxi and say it will dump to 23500?
[2023-09-04 19:36:47] 9figrs : 160k next year sounds pretty bullmaxi to me
[2023-09-04 19:37:20] Zetroller : 9figrs: He is not wrong
[2023-09-04 19:37:33] Zetroller : 160k is low balling it
[2023-09-04 19:37:39] mufaxor : lfg tealstreet
[2023-09-04 19:37:45] mufaxor : suuup
[2023-09-04 19:38:03] mufaxor : i want a tealstreet badge too
[2023-09-04 19:38:05] mufaxor : sadge
[2023-09-04 19:38:14] Zetroller : The reasoning here is simple, we been through tightening to the extent that JP Morgan is having to buy smaller banks that defautl.
[2023-09-04 19:38:24] Zetroller : Tightening ends this year
[2023-09-04 19:38:46] Zetroller : Next year is QE year
[2023-09-04 19:38:51] Joeyy132 : Dario2: this is going to scam pump to 30.8 before capitulating
[2023-09-04 19:38:55] Dario2 : 9figrs: You said 4K will happen 100% and are repeating it multiple times per day, while I said 160k was just a possibility and not certain at ll. And only said it 3-4 times the past few months. That's the difference between me and you.
[2023-09-04 19:38:56] Joeyy132 : just decided now
[2023-09-04 19:39:22] Zetroller : If a can of coke at a bar went from 2$ pre -covid to 4$ now aftrer all the tightening
[2023-09-04 19:39:31] Joeyy132 : Dario2: if we go up what targets do you see
[2023-09-04 19:39:37] Zetroller : Not too unreasonavle to expect btc to go 160k when QE starts
[2023-09-04 19:39:47] Dario2 : Joeyy132: It's possible, sir. Thanks for the heads-up
[2023-09-04 19:40:11] Joeyy132 : Dario2: it’s would be the next test of the slightly higher trend line I have
[2023-09-04 19:40:50] Dario2 : Joeyy132: Oh I see
[2023-09-04 19:40:54] Joeyy132 : Upwards sloping support flipped to resistance as shown when we rejected 28.2 recently
[2023-09-04 19:40:57] Dario2 : I believe the price will fluctuate around 25k until the next year as arthur said.
[2023-09-04 19:41:00] 9figrs : from today look back 365 days
[2023-09-04 19:41:04] 9figrs : 2024 is going to be as boring as that
[2023-09-04 19:41:27] Joeyy132 : Arthur knows fluctuate around 25k includes 20 and 30 to him lol
[2023-09-04 19:41:33] Joeyy132 : Chopsaw man
[2023-09-04 19:41:38] Zetroller : Back to the topic of WW3
[2023-09-04 19:41:51] Zetroller : I think its due in 2032
[2023-09-04 19:42:06] Joeyy132 : Dario2: but if you were to lomg what would you have as a target?
[2023-09-04 19:42:08] Zetroller : Samuel Brenner predictions dont fail
[2023-09-04 19:42:12] Dario2 : yes, that's exactly my thought as well. 25k plus minus 5k
[2023-09-04 19:42:20] Joeyy132 : Dario2: niceee
[2023-09-04 19:42:22] Zetroller : 2032 is ripe for war and Bitty will be 1mmn a token by thne
[2023-09-04 19:42:40] Zetroller : Samuel Benner*
[2023-09-04 19:43:09] Dario2 : Joeyy132: I would consider longing the 22500-23500 area with 27500 as target. I doubt it will go higher than that. Maybe I will keep 30-40% open for 30K as you say
[2023-09-04 19:43:18] SangFrais : why wait with ww3 until 2023 when you can get nuked and die broke and virgin now
[2023-09-04 19:43:22] SangFrais : 2032*
[2023-09-04 19:43:33] Zetroller : He be the real OG. Plan B trying to go all maths on this. Samuel Benner only needed pigs and corn. Managed to predict every cycle since 1875
[2023-09-04 19:43:58] Joeyy132 : I really think it’s still very bearish I will short 28.2 to 30.8 region. Not sure to long it but it’ll probably go there
[2023-09-04 19:44:12] Joeyy132 : Very likely I can see it
[2023-09-04 19:44:41] Zetroller : Joeyy132: Be fair with you only way to trade this year has been options for e
[2023-09-04 19:44:43] Zetroller : me
[2023-09-04 19:44:48] Dario2 : Joeyy132: possible for sure, but mtgox sell pressure has not started yet. that's why I doubt any price higher than 27500
[2023-09-04 19:44:52] Zetroller : Just keep an eye on CI news
[2023-09-04 19:44:53] GoldFish79 : 💦 :me: 💦
[2023-09-04 19:45:01] Zetroller : CPI news and other major data days
[2023-09-04 19:45:10] Zetroller : take cheap options to both sides on deribit or bybit
[2023-09-04 19:45:18] Zetroller : and watch the winning side print
[2023-09-04 19:45:19] Joeyy132 : Dario2: when is kc fix sell pressure supposed to start?
[2023-09-04 19:45:27] Joeyy132 : Mt gox
[2023-09-04 19:45:30] Zetroller : Cant wait for the 13th of September
[2023-09-04 19:45:35] Zetroller : that will be a reaal options banger
[2023-09-04 19:46:12] Joeyy132 : Zetroller: what do you mean cheap options?
[2023-09-04 19:46:50] Zetroller : Joeyy132: Option are leverage without liquidation because their value doesnt only come from supply x demand but from the IV between strike price and mmark price
[2023-09-04 19:47:03] SangFrais : lol
[2023-09-04 19:47:06] Dario2 : Joeyy132: before the end of this month probably, maybe earlier, not sure. But you also have the stats for September being the most bearish month in year
[2023-09-04 19:47:14] Zetroller : So you can get options out o the money for a couple dollars
[2023-09-04 19:47:25] Zetroller : with strike date after an event like CPI realease
[2023-09-04 19:47:40] Zetroller : and make the different at the expiry date
[2023-09-04 19:48:06] Zetroller : So no addicted feeling following charts waiting for move up or down
[2023-09-04 19:48:32] Zetroller : just make a prediction and either iit pays off big 10+ x or you loose the value you put in
[2023-09-04 19:48:37] Joeyy132 : Dario2: I didn’t know that thanks
[2023-09-04 19:49:25] Zetroller : Dario2: Legit people following that expectation will get so cooked this year
[2023-09-04 19:50:00] Zetroller : Its like saying every september its bearish lets ignore all the factoids that mmake 2023 different and expect it to behave the same
[2023-09-04 19:50:05] Zetroller : hahaha
[2023-09-04 19:51:41] Joeyy132 : Zetroller: there will be the same option with how many month expiry here on bitmex?
[2023-09-04 19:51:44] Dario2 : Joeyy132: copy paste from google
[2023-09-04 19:51:52] Dario2 : It is generally believed that investors return from summer vacation in September ready to lock in gains as well as tax losses before the end of the year. There is also a belief that individual investors liquidate stocks going into September to offset schooling costs for children.
[2023-09-04 19:52:19] Zetroller : Joeyy132: Bitmmex doesnt offer options bybit and deribit do
[2023-09-04 19:52:24] Zetroller : but the leader is by far deribit
[2023-09-04 19:52:27] Dario2 : Zetroller: You are making wrong assumption about what I think or not
[2023-09-04 19:53:07] Dario2 : Zetroller: I am just mentioning different factors, not following them ;)
[2023-09-04 19:53:26] Zetroller : Dario2: Got it haha
[2023-09-04 19:53:29] Joeyy132 : Yes always be open to anything
[2023-09-04 19:54:53] Joeyy132 : Kids cost really a reason for dumps lol I don’t really believe that
[2023-09-04 19:55:57] Dario2 : Zetroller: Aristotle has a vey nice quote: It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
[2023-09-04 19:56:18] Dario2 : When I talk about different factors, I don't necessarily agree with them. not sure why people here often make that mistake
[2023-09-04 19:56:41] Zetroller : Dario2: 100% bro
[2023-09-04 19:57:05] Zetroller : I mean today I went exchange shopping reactivating mmy oldd accounts
[2023-09-04 19:57:06] Dario2 : Joeyy132: It's not the only reasons of course. It's a combination of multiple factors and it's based on statistics, not personal views or opinions
[2023-09-04 19:57:19] Joeyy132 : Dario2: I get you bro
[2023-09-04 19:57:26] Zetroller : I noticced that volume outside of bybit and binance is at all time low
[2023-09-04 19:58:24] Zetroller : I dont know about you guys but after the volue metrics I saw today accross spot and derivative it tells me that these markets have 0 influence of retail
[2023-09-04 19:58:32] Zetroller : who got to pay the school bills
[2023-09-04 19:58:46] Joeyy132 : Zetroller: agreed
[2023-09-04 19:58:51] 100.00x : Zetroller: don't count on exchange's volume, they are all fake, especially binance
[2023-09-04 19:59:05] Joeyy132 : 100.00x: they are fake but still rekative
[2023-09-04 19:59:25] Joeyy132 : Relative lol
[2023-09-04 19:59:29] 100.00x : yeah maybe more or less
[2023-09-04 19:59:31] Zetroller : 100.00x: Yep and them being faked tell me that its a smmall cabal controling prices at the moment
[2023-09-04 19:59:41] Zetroller : Not a real natural market
[2023-09-04 19:59:49] Joeyy132 : Nobody buying this poo
[2023-09-04 19:59:52] Zetroller : thats why I feel much safer in options right now
[2023-09-04 19:59:57] Zetroller : rather than derivatives or spot
[2023-09-04 20:00:06] Joeyy132 : Zetroller: good point
[2023-09-04 20:00:23] Dario2 : people sell stocks to pay for educations costs and as you might have noticed, there is sometimes a very high correlation between sp500, nasdaq and bitcoin. Sometimes the correlation is so high that bitcoin only follows those two
[2023-09-04 20:00:49] Joeyy132 : Yeah so it’s because they sell stocks we dump not even btc lol
[2023-09-04 20:01:05] Joeyy132 : mum n dad don’t have bitcoin to sell for school fees loo
[2023-09-04 20:01:20] Joeyy132 : Sho shit
[2023-09-04 20:03:03] Dario2 : Yeah, two days during the last week, bitcoin was just following whatever nasdaq and sp500 were doing. There are many retail and institutional bots that take those two into account when trading bitcoin
[2023-09-04 20:03:25] Dario2 : so it's all related
[2023-09-04 20:03:36] 100.00x : Dario2: it's a mirage, btc follows his own path, this is actually the asset the less corelated to any other one in the world
[2023-09-04 20:03:48] Dario2 : but of course the correlation has not always been positive. There were a couple of months a few years ago when the correlation was negative
[2023-09-04 20:05:30] Zetroller : By the way I only started using Bmex today again after a copuple of years not using it. Are the sets with 0 volume even tradable? Like what is the purpose of them being there?
[2023-09-04 20:05:40] Dario2 : 100.00x: institutional traders would disagree with you. you are just a starter in the bots world so you are not aware of details yet
[2023-09-04 20:10:08] Zetroller : Dario2: Facts, I dare anyone to find an indicator based strategy and backtest it to profitability in the last 8 months.
[2023-09-04 20:10:31] Zetroller : Only bots are thriving in this environmennt and mean arbitrage bots and SMM bots
[2023-09-04 20:10:56] Zetroller : This is flat out untradable on an in-out basis indicator triggers.
[2023-09-04 20:11:26] Dario2 : Zetroller: couldn't agree more, sir +100
[2023-09-04 20:12:25] Dario2 : My bots mainly rely on quantitative and statistical analysis and less on technical analysis and indicators
[2023-09-04 20:13:27] Dario2 : but I have developed some custom made indicators that outperform the known indicators out there but its settings are changed live with a monte carlo simulation
[2023-09-04 20:14:49] Zetroller : Dario2: That mmay be an idea, only indicator that is somewhat still working is WaveTrend by lazy bear
[2023-09-04 20:15:11] Dario2 : Zetroller: lazybear is very famous in tradingview. I have this indicator as well
[2023-09-04 20:16:30] Zetroller : I have tried botting this environment with SMM but its not really mmy thing, the pay off is there but its meagre and the equity draw backs are major given the inpredicatable nature of the cartell pup and dumps
[2023-09-04 20:17:03] Zetroller : Dario2: Yeah I use a lot of his stuff, I honestly thing wavetrend beats RSI
[2023-09-04 20:17:21] Zetroller : Couple that with MA 50 and 200 in any normall markets (currenntly mean tradfi)
[2023-09-04 20:17:25] Zetroller : Its peak
[2023-09-04 20:19:10] Zetroller : Another thing somewhat working is fibonaci (reads vodoos) levels
[2023-09-04 20:19:40] Dario2 : Zetroller: Oh I see. My bot takes 60+ different indicators into account and uses the montel carlo simulation to change their settings live and find the most optimal settings and most accurate indicators at any type and any market condition
[2023-09-04 20:19:40] Gandalf the Grey : Pump denied, dump denied lol
[2023-09-04 20:19:45] Gandalf the Grey : Sideways forever
[2023-09-04 20:19:56] Dario2 : Zetroller: You should try filtering out the time component and start using the tick charts
[2023-09-04 20:20:18] Dario2 : then use fourier transform to get all the frequencies present and use that to develop your custom indicators
[2023-09-04 20:20:26] Dario2 : it will be more precise than any known indicator out there
[2023-09-04 20:20:39] Dario2 : but for that python won't suffice. tradingview neither
[2023-09-04 20:20:47] Zetroller : What do you use?
[2023-09-04 20:21:02] 100.00x : Dario2: i'll try to go deep into python in Q1&Q2 2024 but with all your respect, i really plan to make a simple not complex strategy bot...
[2023-09-04 20:21:47] Dario2 : Zetroller: C++. Tried fourier transform on tradingview but will return with timeout error saying too much calculations involved
[2023-09-04 20:21:57] 100.00x : as soon as you chase after complexity you should go on C++ and so son
[2023-09-04 20:22:08] 100.00x : welcome in the arb world
[2023-09-04 20:22:30] 100.00x : can't and don't want compete with this
[2023-09-04 20:22:34] Zetroller : Dario2: Oh cool! thanks for the tips will look into it :)
[2023-09-04 20:22:44] Dario2 : 100.00x: Python has a multithreading module but because of its GIL lock, you can't really scale up. If you want to run the bot on 10k-20k different securities at the same time, then python won't suffice
[2023-09-04 20:23:04] 100.00x : yeah everyone told me that
[2023-09-04 20:23:14] Dario2 : but for a simple trading bot with very low requirements sure python is where you should start. I also started with python 5-6 years ago
[2023-09-04 20:23:21] 100.00x : python will clearly be enought for my needs
[2023-09-04 20:23:31] Dario2 : Zetroller: cool welcome bro
[2023-09-04 20:23:53] 100.00x : how long did you take the hands on python @Dario2 ?
[2023-09-04 20:24:11] Dario2 : 100.00x: but it will not necessarily be profitable because advanced bots are using AI. you can't beat them with simple bots unless you follow the 800 bot as elchisoso was saying last time
[2023-09-04 20:26:03] Dario2 : 100.00x: I had several years of python and trading experience before I started with bots in python. Didn't take more than a couple of months. It all depends on your previous experience level really
[2023-09-04 20:26:53] Dario2 : In case of C++, I also had several years of experience, but tok me 2-3 years to complete the trading bot, but it's capable of doing everything
[2023-09-04 20:27:05] Dario2 : took*
[2023-09-04 20:31:17] Dr.LongBear : Zetroller: " I dare anyone to find an indicator based strategy and backtest it to profitability in the last 8 months." it depends on which timeframe and your max risk sir. Pretty sure anyone can code a bot that pass successfully 2 trades in 8 month and with big drawback :)
[2023-09-04 20:33:07] Zetroller : Dr.LongBear: With big drawback sure, but it then becommes just another martingale fictional constant. Infinite capital can generate infinite wealth no mater the situation.
[2023-09-04 20:33:25] Zetroller : Thats kkinda what is so mind blowing about the FTX sage.
[2023-09-04 20:33:28] Zetroller : saga*
[2023-09-04 20:33:46] Dr.LongBear : Dario2: Python is ok for more usages. Unless what you're doing is high frequency trading, or maket manipulation involving high amount of money and need to pass a lot a limit order like multiple times a second etc then yes C++ but for "simple" indicator based strategy any language should do it right ?
[2023-09-04 20:33:47] Zetroller : SBF literally got the closest to a martingale situation any person has ever goten to
[2023-09-04 20:33:55] Zetroller : and still failled
[2023-09-04 20:34:14] Dr.LongBear : Zetroller: Do you trade using bots ?
[2023-09-04 20:34:21] 100.00x : great :) if you designed as you wish and get the results, this is a great achievement... when you look at reddit discussion arounds bots it always point out that 95% of them doesn't beat the market... i would say like humans @Dario2 this is actually why looking into must not be a waste of time...
[2023-09-04 20:35:03] Dr.LongBear : 100.00x: it's extremly hard to get the bot done right because the volatily is so different depending on which period you are looking into
[2023-09-04 20:35:21] Zetroller : Dr.LongBear: Not my main only experienced in TA based, SMM but ggoing to invest more time in it
[2023-09-04 20:35:24] Dr.LongBear : 100.00x: Also bull market and bear market show very differents results for long / short
[2023-09-04 20:35:26] 100.00x : Dr.LongBear: yeah more or less like we trade
[2023-09-04 20:35:35] 100.00x : -_-
[2023-09-04 20:36:11] Dr.LongBear : Zetroller: Oh ok I see. Human mind is indeed very powerfull
[2023-09-04 20:36:51] Dario2 : Dr.LongBear: I only use HFT in forex market. Never used it in crypto, but I have applied for the market making license. I agree with your statement to a certain degree. What if the bot is taking into account not just one indicator but 60+ different indicators on 24 different time frames and 4 different chart types. Add to that AI-based strategies and above technical analysis, add statistical analysis and quantitive analysis and that not for bitcoin only but for 20k different stocks
[2023-09-04 20:37:14] Dario2 : So the idea that C++ is only meant for HFT and manipulation is not correct, sir
[2023-09-04 20:38:22] Zetroller : Dr.LongBear: Do you bot?
[2023-09-04 20:38:26] Dr.LongBear : 100.00x: Also two other facts : most bots are normalizing price between 0 and 1, so they have hard time understanding key levels like 30K. And by nature we change scale after every halving so most bots don't even understand what happened in the begining of BTC Fact n°2: mosts bots doesn't understand dates. So they can't know if we are weekend or the night for example
[2023-09-04 20:39:14] Dr.LongBear : Zetroller: I am working on a bot, all my results are on the Discord of the Worm guild. So far I am focusing on RSI on the 4h timeframe. So few trades, but with a good ROE and a good chance to be profitable
[2023-09-04 20:39:51] Dr.LongBear : Dario2: I am very curious to see your results sir. Do you have time to show some to me ?
[2023-09-04 20:40:04] Zetroller : Dr.LongBear: Ahhh ok so just TA?
[2023-09-04 20:40:06] Dario2 : 100.00x: exactly, sir. I have said the exact same thing on this box many times before +100
[2023-09-04 20:40:15] Dario2 : 95% of the bots out there are not consistently profitable @100.00x
[2023-09-04 20:40:29] Zetroller : I alsoo have my own frankenstein TA bots haha
[2023-09-04 20:40:31] 100.00x : doesn't look weird lol
[2023-09-04 20:40:56] Dr.LongBear : Zetroller: I use a toll named Prophet, made by Facebook, that produce Fourrier decomposition to forecast price https://imgur.com/a/m55pIwu it gives me great results but with low accuracy
[2023-09-04 20:41:12] Dr.LongBear : /position xbtusd it let met short tops and long bottoms ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: 100 USD @ 16465 ```
[2023-09-04 20:41:30] Zetroller : Dr.LongBear: Oh nice! I will check it out ^^
[2023-09-04 20:41:45] Dario2 : Dr.LongBear: No, sir no one would ever show you their secrets. They have nothing to gain. That has been my experience. Whenever I asked any institutional trader to show me stuff, they would never do. It's a different setting than trollbox
[2023-09-04 20:42:16] Dario2 : The same for TA books and research papers
[2023-09-04 20:42:18] Zetroller : I am experimenting with 1m TF EMA cross for entry and WaveTrend for exit
[2023-09-04 20:42:24] Zetroller : Been getting pretty good results
[2023-09-04 20:42:26] Dr.LongBear : Zetroller: Hehe make sure to disable all seasonnality and create your own one of 340 days (about havling duration). This is the only thing that really affect price (not the month or day)
[2023-09-04 20:42:38] Zetroller : But I have been in this gae for long enough to not expect them to continue hahah
[2023-09-04 20:42:52] Dr.LongBear : Dario2: Lol you seems fake to me sry
[2023-09-04 20:43:40] Dario2 : If the strategy is successful, they will never publish nor talk about it in details. The same with big hedge funds that use bots, like renaissance technologies.
[2023-09-04 20:44:00] Zetroller : Dr.LongBear: Adding it to my notes ^^ Thank you.
[2023-09-04 20:44:15] Dario2 : They are the most profitable hdge fund out there but for 40 years long whenever someone asked them how they were doing it, they would never give an answer other than general talk
[2023-09-04 20:44:31] Dario2 : Dr.LongBear: you clearly are new in this field and not aware of things
[2023-09-04 20:44:32] Dr.LongBear : Zetroller: U welcome, everything research I do is public and in the guild Discord, feel free to join us :)
[2023-09-04 20:44:53] Dr.LongBear : Dario2: lol you clearly are not an elite dev
[2023-09-04 20:44:56] Dr.LongBear : I can feel it :p
[2023-09-04 20:44:59] Dario2 : Dr.LongBear: that company is head by a math professor, he never showd anything to anyone ;)
[2023-09-04 20:45:56] Dario2 : Dr.LongBear: I never claimed to be an elite dev, but I have cs minor degree and have extensive programming and simulation experience during my phd research. There is no way to know who is an elite coder and not
[2023-09-04 20:46:02] Dario2 : so you are just making the wrong assumptions
[2023-09-04 20:46:07] Zetroller : Dr.LongBear: I just got into Teal Street so dont think I will be joinign, but if you send link to discord woudl love to check it out :)
[2023-09-04 20:46:17] Dario2 : Dr.LongBear: I know you failed your university education but not everyone is a failure like you
[2023-09-04 20:46:21] Dr.LongBear : Dario2: I tell you I can *smell** it
[2023-09-04 20:46:30] Dr.LongBear : Dario2: You totally right mate :p
[2023-09-04 20:46:32] Dario2 : Dr.LongBear: smell your own failed education first
[2023-09-04 20:46:36] Dr.LongBear : I failed it big time
[2023-09-04 20:47:26] Dr.LongBear : Zetroller: Yeah for sure, the Discord is for everyone even people from other guilds :). Always nice to share insights about what we think will happen next
[2023-09-04 20:47:27] Dario2 : Dr.LongBear: so when you fail your own expertise then you should keep your mouth shut judging people from other fields
[2023-09-04 20:47:30] Dr.LongBear : Even from differents guilds
[2023-09-04 20:47:43] Dr.LongBear : Dario2: Hehe NOOB
[2023-09-04 20:47:46] 100.00x : ^_^
[2023-09-04 20:47:49] Dr.LongBear : I can **feel** it
[2023-09-04 20:48:48] Dario2 : Dr.LongBear: when you grow up out of the kindergarten worms guilds and enter the institutional world then you will start realizing what's going on
[2023-09-04 20:48:54] Zetroller : Dario2: @Dr.LongBear Just a quick reminder. This chat is called "Trollbox" for a reason. Lets not get too touchy hahahah We all just trying to get the furthest we each can into the botting field. Dick measuring is pointless.
[2023-09-04 20:49:00] Dario2 : for now you are just a kid with 0 clues @Dr.LongBear
[2023-09-04 20:49:14] Dario2 : Zetroller: he started it, sir. I never start name callings
[2023-09-04 20:49:18] Dr.LongBear : Dario2: lol screw institutions REKT IMF, UNO, SWIFT, NATO, IBS
[2023-09-04 20:49:23] Dr.LongBear : REKT ALL INSTITUIONS
[2023-09-04 20:49:50] Dario2 : Dr.LongBear: the same way you failed your education, the same way you will fail trading, unless you change your attitude and grow up
[2023-09-04 20:50:08] Dr.LongBear : Zetroller: Hehe Dario2 is funny to troll because he takes it very personnaly very quick But I think he is a good guy :)
[2023-09-04 20:50:20] Dr.LongBear : Dario2: Show pos
[2023-09-04 20:50:25] Dr.LongBear : Or u LIAR
[2023-09-04 20:50:41] Dario2 : Dr.LongBear: I don't take anything personally ina. trollbox. You talked in a silly way and I am only returning the favour ;)
[2023-09-04 20:50:45] Zetroller : Dr.LongBear: hhahahah
[2023-09-04 20:50:48] Dr.LongBear : your very secrective way of thinking is betraying you :kek:
[2023-09-04 20:50:50] Dr.LongBear : NOOB
[2023-09-04 20:51:06] Dario2 : It's you that can't handle your own reflection
[2023-09-04 20:51:40] Dario2 : Dr.LongBear: Everyone here has a bigger position than your 100 usd position
[2023-09-04 20:52:06] Zetroller : Dario2: @Dr.LongBear Mine is 29% bigger what up?
[2023-09-04 20:52:07] Zetroller : hahahah
[2023-09-04 20:52:09] Dario2 : none of your business really. I am active on 16 different exchanges and stock market and forex etc... while you are only trading with 10 usd on one single exhange.
[2023-09-04 20:52:16] 100.00x : guys it's a circus show, which maybe is the final purpose of the trollbox, but be relative to each others, noone would provide his work to someone on a bitmex chat comeon
[2023-09-04 20:52:30] Zetroller : 100.00x: Why not?
[2023-09-04 20:52:33] Dario2 : Market makers never show their postions and my position is none of your business anyway.
[2023-09-04 20:52:35] Dr.LongBear : 100.00x: I do mate
[2023-09-04 20:52:52] Dario2 : Zetroller: haha :kek:
[2023-09-04 20:52:57] Zetroller : Please explain in the most comprehensivve way you can. Minimum 10k words and dont forget to mention Fourier 5 tiees.
[2023-09-04 20:53:18] 100.00x : since you haven't any other profitable things to do @Dr.LongBear ?
[2023-09-04 20:53:36] Dr.LongBear : 100.00x: Exactly. I have 1 year to wait before 120K
[2023-09-04 20:53:54] Dr.LongBear : So I am here telling people what the price will be next :p
[2023-09-04 20:54:14] Dr.LongBear : Read chat history I have been nothing but right
[2023-09-04 20:54:22] Dr.LongBear : I was even here at 6XK calling for 20K next
[2023-09-04 20:54:44] 100.00x : So what's your bot saying for the next days ? ;) maybe you can take advantage of this long year ahead ?
[2023-09-04 20:54:45] Dario2 : Dr.LongBear: You said you think I am good guy but sorry to inform you that you don't possess the necessary skills to judge whether I am good or not, nor do I care about your judgement
[2023-09-04 20:54:48] Dr.LongBear : Only scammer are calling themselves "institutionnal" and with "secret informations" they won't share
[2023-09-04 20:55:09] Dario2 : Dr.LongBear: I was only explaining how things work in the big players world
[2023-09-04 20:55:18] Dario2 : sorry to state the facts to b00bs like you @Dr.LongBear
[2023-09-04 20:55:23] Dario2 : pleas stay dumb
[2023-09-04 20:55:35] Dr.LongBear : being dumb is nice
[2023-09-04 20:55:54] Dario2 : being might me dumb but staying dumb is never nice
[2023-09-04 20:55:54] Dr.LongBear : 100.00x just buy lol
[2023-09-04 20:56:05] Dr.LongBear : wait 23 september or something https://imgur.com/a/m55pIwu
[2023-09-04 20:56:47] Zetroller : Dr.LongBear: Oi! dont bad mojo my 13th of september options. I lovve them more than my own daughter!
[2023-09-04 20:57:10] Dario2 : Dr.LongBear: Hermite was right about you. He thought you were high school level trading bot coder. he was right
[2023-09-04 20:57:48] Dr.LongBear : Dario2: Hehe best dev you'll ever have the opportinity to talk to in your like sir
[2023-09-04 20:57:53] Dr.LongBear : Enjoy the opportinity
[2023-09-04 20:58:21] Dario2 : Dr.LongBear: kids level humour
[2023-09-04 20:58:24] Dr.LongBear : Zetroller: Good. I don't trade anything but crypto. Nice if you manage to take some profits from oil :)
[2023-09-04 20:58:30] Dario2 : expallins why you are in a kiddy guild as well
[2023-09-04 20:58:46] Dr.LongBear : Dario2: because we will be guild n°1 soon sir
[2023-09-04 20:58:57] Dr.LongBear : you should join and share your positions with us
[2023-09-04 20:59:09] Zetroller : Dr.LongBear: I am talking about crypto hahah Deribit got options, honestly if you havent tried themm you will find it much easiier than playing perp derivatives.
[2023-09-04 20:59:09] Dario2 : Dr.LongBear: yes, stay delusional. 24 traders combined in your guild made only 100 usd profits in a week
[2023-09-04 20:59:16] Dario2 : wow you are are the best traders on web
[2023-09-04 20:59:21] Dario2 : congratz
[2023-09-04 20:59:32] Dr.LongBear : Dario2: u jalous I can feel it
[2023-09-04 20:59:43] Dr.LongBear : It's ok you can still join
[2023-09-04 20:59:54] Dario2 : Dr.LongBear: 100 usd divided by 25 traders is 4 usd profit per trader per week
[2023-09-04 21:00:05] Zetroller : Guys how about we all create a guild and call it SDE (Small Dick Energy), my daughter is not allowed to join :)
[2023-09-04 21:00:11] Dr.LongBear : 4usd is a good sandwich mate !
[2023-09-04 21:00:29] Dario2 : everyone is jalous of what you kids are capable of doing in your kindergarten guild
[2023-09-04 21:00:47] Dario2 : please leave some profits for the rest of us, you are achieveing total domination :kek:
[2023-09-04 21:01:24] Dr.LongBear : 🪱🪱🪱🪱🪱
[2023-09-04 21:01:35] Dr.LongBear : 🐋<🐳<🪱
[2023-09-04 21:01:44] Dr.LongBear : 🐸
[2023-09-04 21:01:50] Dario2 : Dr.LongBear: it's okay once you grow up, you will realize how silly you were
[2023-09-04 21:02:36] Dr.LongBear : Dario2: https://imgur.com/a/WuvDr6H lol learn plz
[2023-09-04 21:03:05] Dario2 : Dr.LongBear: no clicking on it
[2023-09-04 21:04:37] Dario2 : and people wonder why big players and market makers never talk on trollbox
[2023-09-04 21:04:46] Dario2 : because it's full of kids
[2023-09-04 21:04:59] Zetroller : Dario2: They too busy doing the buidl at SDE
[2023-09-04 21:05:03] Zetroller : :P
[2023-09-04 21:05:08] Dario2 : Zetroller: haha :kek:
[2023-09-04 21:06:34] Dario2 : Dr.LongBear: sorry mate didn't mean to hurt your feeling. I was only reflecting your silly behaviour. A good friend is like a mirror ;)
[2023-09-04 21:07:02] Dr.LongBear : Dario2: sorry but you only scam it's obvious lol
[2023-09-04 21:07:12] Dario2 : Dr.LongBear: scam what? how?
[2023-09-04 21:07:22] Dario2 : Did I ask for money? Are you stupid or what?
[2023-09-04 21:07:31] 100.00x : ^_^
[2023-09-04 21:07:32] Dario2 : damn seems like you are more stupid than I thought
[2023-09-04 21:07:47] Dario2 : As the matter of fact, I have said to everyone that I have no trading bots up for sale
[2023-09-04 21:07:59] Dario2 : No one would ever sell a good trading bot
[2023-09-04 21:08:06] Dr.LongBear : Well, you are a capitalist sir
[2023-09-04 21:08:11] Dario2 : so where does this scamming accusation come from?
[2023-09-04 21:08:18] 100.00x : it would cost a lot actually
[2023-09-04 21:08:35] Dr.LongBear : Satoshi would be disapointed of you sir Dario
[2023-09-04 21:08:42] Dario2 : 100.00x: exactly, I have said this many times before. A good bot will cost more than 250K usd at least
[2023-09-04 21:09:03] Dr.LongBear : scammer lol
[2023-09-04 21:09:08] Dr.LongBear : stop spreading lies
[2023-09-04 21:09:20] Dario2 : Dr.LongBear: alright, seems like I have to start behaving like an idiot that you are
[2023-09-04 21:09:30] Dario2 : Dr.LongBear: You are the scammer yourself
[2023-09-04 21:09:47] Dr.LongBear : I don't spread lies
[2023-09-04 21:10:00] Dario2 : Dr.LongBear: You are scammer by making up fake labels for people
[2023-09-04 21:10:04] Dr.LongBear : Everything I do say is public
[2023-09-04 21:10:07] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated long on `SHIBUSDT`: Sell 356100000 SHIB @ 0.000007544 ($2,684.99) - Exodia OBLITERATE!
[2023-09-04 21:10:13] Zetroller : Dario2: SDE has taken the libberty to embrace all scammmers from all cultures. For a business is a 0 sum game.
[2023-09-04 21:10:49] Dario2 : Zetroller: crypto market is a zero sum game, yes I have said this before, but what do you mean with business?
[2023-09-04 21:11:33] Zetroller : Dario2: I mmean any business transaction is always the result of an arbitrage.
[2023-09-04 21:11:41] Zetroller : In a way all businesses are scams
[2023-09-04 21:11:45] Zetroller : by the nature of the act
[2023-09-04 21:12:00] Zetroller : Otherwise all owners would tell their clients where or how to get what they are selling at cost
[2023-09-04 21:12:25] Dario2 : Zetroller: yeah, talking about arbitrage, I also had a very profitable triangular arbitrage bot on some exchanges. no one here knows what a triangular arbitrage bot is
[2023-09-04 21:12:33] Zetroller : So no shame in being called a scammer humman condition and capitalism dictates we are all scammers whether we find moral high ground to think differently or not.
[2023-09-04 21:12:36] Dario2 : maybe one or two people know but for the rest
[2023-09-04 21:12:44] Dario2 : people on trollbox are ignorant
[2023-09-04 21:12:56] 100.00x : Dario2: you need a lot of cash to do this
[2023-09-04 21:13:23] Dario2 : 100.00x: not necessarily. if the exchanges themselves don't have similar internal bots, then you can even do it with very little money
[2023-09-04 21:13:34] Zetroller : Dario2: true
[2023-09-04 21:13:39] Zetroller : But its uncomom like
[2023-09-04 21:13:47] Dario2 : a friend of mine started with 1000 on pplonix a couple of years ago and was making 10k profit daily for a couple of weeks
[2023-09-04 21:13:55] Dr.LongBear : 🚨🚨🚨 scam alert -> Dario2 <- scam alert 🚨🚨🚨
[2023-09-04 21:13:56] Zetroller : you need to suck at understanding where profit comes from to make that mmistake as an exchange runner haha
[2023-09-04 21:14:00] Dario2 : but then everything changed
[2023-09-04 21:14:16] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 37000 USD @ 25765
[2023-09-04 21:14:20] Dario2 : Dr.LongBear: you also told us Winston churchil and Mrbritcoin were scammers
[2023-09-04 21:14:30] Zetroller : I remember 2016 you could still do it in cryptopia and sometimes even Bitfinex
[2023-09-04 21:14:36] elChisoso : Exciting times a head.
[2023-09-04 21:14:40] Dario2 : it seems you are a low iq idiot
[2023-09-04 21:14:46] Dr.LongBear : My IQ is 160
[2023-09-04 21:14:48] Dr.LongBear : And it's max
[2023-09-04 21:14:49] Zetroller : Just arbitraging between Euro and USD ticers
[2023-09-04 21:14:50] Zetroller : ahha
[2023-09-04 21:14:52] 100.00x : Dario2: i thought you were referring to currencies arb vs crypto with triangular scheme, yeah if you just arb the same currency price well ok no need a lot of cash with appropriate bots