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[2023-09-03 14:40:42] Dario2 : Fuun: bitmex logos are scared of you, madam bot. They are hiding 🫣
[2023-09-03 14:41:12] elChisoso : We need more of this "it is possible" mentaility in this room, and more probability talks.
[2023-09-03 14:41:42] Dario2 : elChisoso: +1000 Sir
[2023-09-03 14:41:55] Dario2 : wait you said more for both
[2023-09-03 14:42:28] elChisoso : Yes I did, because everything is possible, but how high is the probability? So more of both.
[2023-09-03 14:43:40] Dario2 : elChisoso: true, indeed
[2023-09-03 14:44:11] koOrey : oh, u useless kids just have costumes.
[2023-09-03 14:44:15] 9figrs : there is no data to even show 160k is possible tho?
[2023-09-03 14:44:18] koOrey : thats all. :joy:
[2023-09-03 14:44:20] 9figrs : curious to know how you came up with that
[2023-09-03 14:44:23] koOrey : its simple.
[2023-09-03 14:44:36] Fuun : u need to ignore it, kids.
[2023-09-03 14:44:48] Fuun : still the same losers. :joy:
[2023-09-03 14:45:09] 9figrs : 160k for btc is just pure hopium that everyone apes into it
[2023-09-03 14:45:23] Dr.LongBear : 9figrs: 160K will be real
[2023-09-03 14:46:15] 9figrs : so everyone and there grandmas gonna ape into bitcoin again
[2023-09-03 14:46:18] Dario2 : 9figrs: it’s just a possibility. Nothing is certain.
[2023-09-03 14:46:22] Dario2 : https://twitter.com/TechDev_52/status/1661115288673198098
[2023-09-03 14:46:42] Dario2 : I would love to see a chart from people claiming 3.6k
[2023-09-03 14:47:22] elChisoso : mr Lasagna has one that shows it, i dont have it handy.
[2023-09-03 14:48:15] Dario2 : missed his chart. Where is he btw? On vacation? Haven’t seen him for more than a week
[2023-09-03 14:48:26] 9figrs : 3k is simple look at 3600 on the chart
[2023-09-03 14:48:31] 9figrs : price would sweep that wqick
[2023-09-03 14:48:44] 9figrs : the chart you linked is a curving line
[2023-09-03 14:48:47] 9figrs : magic curving line
[2023-09-03 14:49:19] 9figrs : a sweep is like a liquidity grab basically
[2023-09-03 14:49:24] 9figrs : if you didnt have liq maps
[2023-09-03 14:49:26] 9figrs : you would use sweeps
[2023-09-03 14:50:16] Dario2 : 9figrs: I will not disagree with that as long as you don’t claim to be 100% sure it will happen
[2023-09-03 14:51:07] 9figrs : i only claim 100% that 160k wont happen next year
[2023-09-03 14:51:50] elChisoso : The volume in the zone 15-20k was amazing, so it would need a real capitulation to go lower. I would say that that zone is established support for now.
[2023-09-03 14:52:33] Dario2 : that I would disagree, because thousand things will happen between now and then and some of those events may totally alter any current probably distribution
[2023-09-03 14:53:00] Dario2 : unless you are god knowing about every single event in the future
[2023-09-03 14:53:08] GoldFish79 : dead cat aroundyrly low to reject it at best
[2023-09-03 14:54:26] Dario2 : probability* distribution @9figrs
[2023-09-03 14:55:40] 9figrs : and when we go into recession, is bitcoin magically recession proof?
[2023-09-03 14:56:29] Dario2 : I didn’t claim that. Unlike you I am not 100% certain about any trading related issue
[2023-09-03 14:57:09] 9figrs : im just realistic
[2023-09-03 14:57:43] Dario2 : If war breaks out between nato and russia, then bitcoin will probably skyrocket for a short period of time
[2023-09-03 14:58:27] 9figrs : so bitcoin is magic
[2023-09-03 14:58:30] 9figrs : understood
[2023-09-03 14:59:00] AssetScout : @MrBritcoin @Dario2 thanks for sharing your charts guys. really nice stuff.
[2023-09-03 14:59:04] Dario2 : That’s a contradiction there. You can’t be a realist and claim 100% certain things will happen at the same time
[2023-09-03 14:59:27] Dario2 : welcome Sir @AssetScout
[2023-09-03 14:59:32] AssetScout : Dario2: can you explain me how adjusted log time works
[2023-09-03 14:59:55] MrBritcoin : Dario2: well you got to see whats happening in the uk all banks are shutting
[2023-09-03 15:00:14] 9figrs : so when war breaks out everyone is gonna decide to buy bitcoin
[2023-09-03 15:00:21] AssetScout : Dario2: is it just log(time) + offset
[2023-09-03 15:00:23] AssetScout : ?
[2023-09-03 15:01:12] Dario2 : AssetScout: As the formula states Time = log(weeks)^3.44 it was found by a monte carlo simulation
[2023-09-03 15:02:35] MrBritcoin : an the banks know whats coming an if there is no doors to go to for getting your money out or to protest outside of well
[2023-09-03 15:02:35] Dario2 : MrBritcoin: yeah, mate. I have a hsbc company bank account in london. I have heard a bit about it
[2023-09-03 15:03:55] MrBritcoin : hard times are coming for those not in the know
[2023-09-03 15:04:13] Dario2 : 9figrs: no, of course not everyone but as people in eu and russia start moving to different countries, they will find bitcoin very handy
[2023-09-03 15:04:41] Dario2 : MrBritcoin: true, indeed
[2023-09-03 15:04:54] MrBritcoin : cash is no longer a currancy you ask me nowhere takes it
[2023-09-03 15:06:06] Dr.LongBear : Dario2: aren't they too optimistic ? They are doing some linear regression but not touching the ATH of last cycle
[2023-09-03 15:06:47] Dr.LongBear : https://www.tradingview.com/x/qMfizzJH/ 120K seems more realistic to me than 160K
[2023-09-03 15:06:51] Dario2 : here in the netherlands there were some shops not accepting cash, so parliament members were considering to pass a new law forcing them to accept. Not sure what happened. Didn’t follow up
[2023-09-03 15:07:30] MrBritcoin : they wont do that there all going digital fact
[2023-09-03 15:07:43] AssetScout : Dario2: you know when the chart is starting?
[2023-09-03 15:08:15] Dario2 : Dr.LongBear: It’s from weeks ago, mate. Certain things have changed since then but you are right. It’s optimistic. I agree
[2023-09-03 15:08:58] AssetScout : Dr.LongBear: also nice chart, thx. here it looks like the btc climb is converging to some point.
[2023-09-03 15:09:15] Dario2 : AssetScout: Personally, I am waiting for the coming mtgox sell pressure to fade away. That’s when I will start entering long term positions
[2023-09-03 15:09:53] Dario2 : Dr.LongBear: thanks for the chart, sir. Very interesting
[2023-09-03 15:10:13] Dr.LongBear : AssetScout: @Dario2 U welcome, next year will be very interesting
[2023-09-03 15:10:17] Dr.LongBear : Can't wait
[2023-09-03 15:10:20] Dr.LongBear : /position xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: 100 USD @ 16465 ```
[2023-09-03 15:10:23] Dr.LongBear : /pnl xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: -0.0000 XBT RPNL, 0.0022 XBT UPNL ```
[2023-09-03 15:10:26] 9figrs : can someone tell me what value Bitcoin has compared to a CBDC?
[2023-09-03 15:10:39] 9figrs : its the same thing? one just goes up and down in price?
[2023-09-03 15:10:50] Dario2 : MrBritcoin: true, mate. We should prepare for all possible scenarios
[2023-09-03 15:11:14] 9figrs : its all traceable
[2023-09-03 15:11:47] 9figrs : or you guys must be buying spot and hoping hard for it to go crazy?
[2023-09-03 15:12:41] Dario2 : 9figrs: bitcoin was just an experiment for their final CBDCs. The first ever scientific paper on bitcoin was written by scientists working for NSA
[2023-09-03 15:13:06] Dario2 : all the experiences gained from it will be applies on cbdcs
[2023-09-03 15:13:11] 9figrs : yeah exactly, get everyone to value some worthless thing such as bitcoin
[2023-09-03 15:13:15] 9figrs : and everyone will value CBDC
[2023-09-03 15:13:18] Dario2 : and so one day, they
[2023-09-03 15:13:33] 9figrs : so lets play bitcoin accordingly, no reason for these guys to send btc to 160k
[2023-09-03 15:13:40] 9figrs : .... yet atleast
[2023-09-03 15:13:43] Dario2 : when they introduce their cbdcs, expect them to ban bitcoins
[2023-09-03 15:13:45] AssetScout : according to chart of Dr.LongBear there would be a price level in future where btc is actually stable coin. maybe this would be when btc replaces fiat, hehe.
[2023-09-03 15:14:28] Dario2 : 9figrs: yeah let’s play the game and make profits as much as possible
[2023-09-03 15:14:28] 9figrs : Dario2: its was agenda 2030, but i think they will be a couple years late
[2023-09-03 15:14:33] 9figrs : Dario2: 2033
[2023-09-03 15:14:44] 9figrs : freemason number ofc
[2023-09-03 15:14:57] 9figrs : 2033 everyone own nothing and be "happy"
[2023-09-03 15:16:11] Dario2 : 9figrs: hehe yeah occult symbolism all over the place
[2023-09-03 15:16:24] Dario2 : hate that guy, Klaus Schwab from wef
[2023-09-03 15:22:11] Dr.LongBear : Dario2: don't be scared https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-bN9sk_mxs
[2023-09-03 15:24:29] AssetScout : Dr.LongBear: do you think btc will converge at around 2035 or is this a misinterpretation of your chart?
[2023-09-03 15:26:06] Dr.LongBear : AssetScout: I do think BTC price will converge. As it price get higher, less leverage will be used. Also as more people will trade it, the orders will cancel each other
[2023-09-03 15:28:10] Dario2 : Dr.LongBear: 🤣 He still scares me. If reality was a movie, he would be the perfect cast for the villain role
[2023-09-03 15:28:45] fishfood : In the land of trades, Bitcoin bears and bulls clash, Price swings, hearts racing.
[2023-09-03 15:29:17] Dr.LongBear : If u watch all time volume you can see it's going less and less, but that's normal because volume is in contracts, but the $ value behind stay more or less the same. Have a look a this epoch over epoch animation https://twitter.com/w_s_bitcoin/status/1689630826344947712 you can clearly see each halving gives less ROE % than the previous one
[2023-09-03 15:31:02] Dr.LongBear : Dario2: yes he is ^^ Seems he is really one of the mastermind behind NWO
[2023-09-03 15:31:16] Dr.LongBear : great reset and sh*t
[2023-09-03 15:31:24] Dario2 : Yes, indeed Sir @Dr.LongBear
[2023-09-03 15:35:43] GoldFish79 : 🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨 425,322,300 XRP ($211,782,720) transfered from Unknown to Unknown
[2023-09-03 15:36:39] 9figrs : jed still selling?
[2023-09-03 15:43:59] GoldFish79 : theyve moved well over a billi about in the last month or so with their current narratie , hodlerz shttin *Brics...*
[2023-09-03 15:49:25] Gandalf the Grey : mmmm, she is a sellleeeeer
[2023-09-03 15:50:47] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated long on `APTUSD`: Sell 1 Cont @ 5.488 ($1.42)
[2023-09-03 16:07:16] LittleBuck : Orban vs Russia good watch/ peace https://youtu.be/a5wdgDCUX70?si=RSTFfX-fHKriHO-o btc. Peace is money
[2023-09-03 16:25:37] NOOM : ET phone home 👆
[2023-09-03 16:27:36] LittleBuck : 4x to 100k btc
[2023-09-03 16:30:37] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated long on `BLURUSDT`: Sell 41860 BLUR @ 0.1837 ($7,686.75) - No refunds!
[2023-09-03 16:31:02] LittleBuck : 5min btc btfd https://www.tradingview.com/x/99Ga3V2r
[2023-09-03 16:34:17] LittleBuck : 0933 west coast na Sunday. Silicon valley n Microsoft land..church bells n btc ring loud
[2023-09-03 16:37:35] elChisoso : Bulls they never ever learn.
[2023-09-03 16:38:12] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated long on `PEPEUSDT`: Sell 635500000 PEPE @ 7.79e-7 ($495.05)
[2023-09-03 16:38:51] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated long on `PEPEUSDT`: Sell 20000 PEPE @ 7.75e-7 ($0.02)
[2023-09-03 16:39:01] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated long on `BCHUSD`: Sell 1 Cont @ 192.65 ($4.98)
[2023-09-03 16:39:01] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated long on `SHIBUSDT`: Sell 10000 SHIB @ 0.000007718 ($0.08)
[2023-09-03 16:39:01] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated long on `SHIBUSD`: Sell 1 Cont @ 0.000007718 ($1.99)
[2023-09-03 16:40:08] GoldFish79 : 💦 :me: 💦
[2023-09-03 16:42:40] MrBritcoin : https://prnt.sc/d67HLbro91Nh
[2023-09-03 16:49:31] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated long on `PEPEUSDT`: Sell 50000 PEPE @ 7.72e-7 ($0.04)
[2023-09-03 16:49:31] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated long on `APEUSDT`: Sell 400 APE @ 1.322 ($528.72)
[2023-09-03 16:58:26] Gandalf the Grey : When 23500?
[2023-09-03 16:58:34] Gandalf the Grey : When doom and chaos/
[2023-09-03 17:02:48] elChisoso : soon soon
[2023-09-03 17:02:55] elChisoso : need to milk som cows first
[2023-09-03 17:12:27] LittleBuck : Hang on Korn https://youtu.be/u6kO2w-NOW8?si=-z0eMVJwc2iahmx2 btc
[2023-09-03 17:23:06] MrBritcoin : OMG bybit got custom chart time frames thats amazing bit mex is over the hill as i see it chaps
[2023-09-03 17:25:05] MrBritcoin : the onlt thing this place ie bit mex has going for it is the chat box an thats hanging on a thread
[2023-09-03 17:26:26] MrBritcoin : time has come for me to pack up on bitmex
[2023-09-03 17:26:41] MrBritcoin : bye folks
[2023-09-03 17:28:45] elChisoso : It was nice knowing you, and by that I also know this aint the first time you say bye, so you will be back.
[2023-09-03 17:33:49] Gandalf the Grey : LittleBuck: lol
[2023-09-03 17:34:36] GoldFish79 : MrBritcoin: Bye Bye Russellll
[2023-09-03 17:35:14] GoldFish79 : majin leavin best casino kek
[2023-09-03 17:35:46] Gandalf the Grey : GoldFish79: Are wands expensive in the UK?
[2023-09-03 17:36:28] GoldFish79 : Gandalf the Grey: depends how gucci ya wanna go on design..
[2023-09-03 17:36:51] Gandalf the Grey : F&F is the best I can do
[2023-09-03 17:36:57] Gandalf the Grey : Second hand
[2023-09-03 17:38:12] GoldFish79 : try ebay
[2023-09-03 17:48:10] Gandalf the Grey : Teraz treba predat a kupit na 22 kek
[2023-09-03 17:50:14] Jobby : Anyone trading bmex now?
[2023-09-03 17:51:07] elChisoso : has anyone ever traded bmex?
[2023-09-03 17:51:14] elChisoso : I only bought bmex to get better fees.
[2023-09-03 17:52:42] Jobby : elChisoso: that’s why it is a good coin
[2023-09-03 17:52:42] Gandalf the Grey : Ladder from here to 0
[2023-09-03 17:52:44] Gandalf the Grey : Wait a year.
[2023-09-03 17:52:48] Gandalf the Grey : Maybe you make money
[2023-09-03 17:52:50] Gandalf the Grey : That is it
[2023-09-03 17:53:08] Jobby : when crypto gets more active again everyone runs to bitmex to get 100x
[2023-09-03 17:54:02] Jobby : I’m buying now on spot, but it’s hard without liquidity
[2023-09-03 17:54:05] elChisoso : Jobby: Yes, for the fees it does wonder, I am still to get up to the higher tiers, but I keep staking and one day i get there.
[2023-09-03 17:54:44] Jobby : i moved bmex to 0.42 my last go and now trying to go a bit slower
[2023-09-03 17:55:18] Jobby : Buying up until 0.38 probably and than let it rest and go back to 0.35 again
[2023-09-03 17:56:42] Jobby : Can’t really long the perp anymore as the funding is insane
[2023-09-03 17:57:42] Jobby : I’ve got 738k bmex now and I want the 1m for max interest on the staking
[2023-09-03 17:58:25] elChisoso : Jobby: Then you are ahead of ~300k bmex ser, i will get there too one day.
[2023-09-03 17:59:00] elChisoso : I started with 25 bmex to be able to join a guild, and then built from there.
[2023-09-03 18:00:40] elChisoso : bmex biggest weakness is that it is only traded here.
[2023-09-03 18:05:09] Fuun : blabla and it still hurts, blabla, can we be friends to influence together.
[2023-09-03 18:05:25] Fuun : in this dead chat, blabla. :joy:
[2023-09-03 18:05:53] Fuun : dont get interrupted in your acting, kids.
[2023-09-03 18:06:02] Fuun : your blablabla works wonder.
[2023-09-03 18:10:06] Jobby : elChisoso: i understood from bitmes_hans they are working to get it lisyed on more exchanges
[2023-09-03 18:10:29] elChisoso : Jobby: Yeah, they have been working on that for quite some time now, so maybe soon?
[2023-09-03 18:10:32] Jobby : so I am very bullish now
[2023-09-03 18:10:53] Jobby : elChisoso: I think or hope so
[2023-09-03 18:11:14] elChisoso : The price for now is great, maybe cheaper one more time, but this is probably the best prices for years to come.
[2023-09-03 18:11:18] Jobby : I mean, I don’t thibk it ahould be too difficult. Bitmex is a name in crypto
[2023-09-03 18:11:29] Jobby : people will want to trade it like bnb
[2023-09-03 18:11:53] Jobby : and after listing on more exchanges it will go 10x
[2023-09-03 18:12:25] Jobby : They won’t tell you when, but when they announce it you will be too late so I want to accumulate now
[2023-09-03 18:12:31] elChisoso : Jobby: It also depends on the global amount of interest, only the biggest exchanges tokens is crosstraded on exchanges. Bitmex may be an old name, but the reputation is still on re-build mode.
[2023-09-03 18:12:48] elChisoso : I would vote for BitMEX any day on the week.
[2023-09-03 18:12:55] Jobby : Well binance has a worse name at the moment
[2023-09-03 18:13:01] elChisoso : But new users reading older reviews might not be so positive.
[2023-09-03 18:13:11] elChisoso : Jobby: I moved out of Binance 1,5 years ago.
[2023-09-03 18:13:22] Jobby : bitmex has been around for so long and even with all the penalties and convictions still reliable
[2023-09-03 18:13:39] elChisoso : It takes years to build a positive reputation, that same reputation can be destroyed in seconds, then it takes years to build it up again.
[2023-09-03 18:14:05] Jobby : Tell me which exchange has a 100% positive reputation?
[2023-09-03 18:14:08] elChisoso : BitMEX is by far the most reliable exchange there is. Bitmex only weakness today is the liquidity.
[2023-09-03 18:14:48] elChisoso : Jobby: None, but also those at the top today, has not had that "burn" Bitmex had back in the day for arthurs little games.
[2023-09-03 18:15:26] elChisoso : I am amazed that the brand was and stood so strong as it did, and still exists today, on route to become the biggest again.
[2023-09-03 18:15:51] elChisoso : If anything, that proves that BitMEX is in the game, and they will stay in the game and they will take no.1 spot again one day.
[2023-09-03 18:16:17] elChisoso : Binance and the others still have their great fall ahead of them.
[2023-09-03 18:18:36] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated short on `ETHUSD`: Buy 125 Cont @ 1637.25 ($5,309.47) - Are ya winning, son?
[2023-09-03 18:18:55] elChisoso : RonnieREKT: Ronnie, you still awake?
[2023-09-03 18:19:33] MrBritcoin : 26600 lego
[2023-09-03 18:21:05] LittleBuck : 5min btc pampin https://www.tradingview.com/x/5WOAkdc7
[2023-09-03 18:21:22] elChisoso : MrBritcoin: Welcome back!
[2023-09-03 18:22:28] MrBritcoin : iv not gone anywhere @elChisoso yet
[2023-09-03 18:22:56] elChisoso : MrBritcoin: You told us all a worthy goodbye sir. :)
[2023-09-03 18:23:05] riz2 : back to 25,800]
[2023-09-03 18:23:55] lazyzen : where is bearmaster ?
[2023-09-03 18:23:59] MrBritcoin : elChisoso: it will appen just iv got trades that need sorting out along the way m8
[2023-09-03 18:24:02] elChisoso : This PA is like poison to the bulls. :-)
[2023-09-03 18:24:25] elChisoso : MrBritcoin: Welcome back anytime in the future, I will be here talking nonsense in the future to.
[2023-09-03 18:24:28] MrBritcoin : /position xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: 25,000 USD @ 25892.1798 ```
[2023-09-03 18:25:17] GoldFish79 : rekt
[2023-09-03 18:26:03] MrBritcoin : GoldFish79: what ever happened to wishing people well
[2023-09-03 18:26:45] GoldFish79 : MrBritcoin: best of luck with your idea Ser
[2023-09-03 18:26:49] MrBritcoin : thats why i like the usa there not snidy they wish you well in your journey
[2023-09-03 18:27:48] riz2 : that wouldve been a good entry for a short above 26k
[2023-09-03 18:28:27] 9figrs : britcoin longed? best short signal
[2023-09-03 18:29:04] riz2 : 9figrs: :arthur:
[2023-09-03 18:29:05] MrBritcoin : GoldFish79: https://www.tradingview.com/x/lIGrVGXP/
[2023-09-03 18:29:34] MrBritcoin : yea best short signal hu
[2023-09-03 18:29:34] AssetScout : elChisoso: "Bitmex only weakness today is the liquidity. " maybe they should reintroduce maker rebate for all markets like they did in their early days. i never understood why they went away from that model.
[2023-09-03 18:29:57] elChisoso : AssetScout: Own enough bmex and you will have all the rebate you ever need.
[2023-09-03 18:32:11] Jobby : AssetScout: i have 0.0125% rebate whixh I believe is the max, in the old days it was 0.025%
[2023-09-03 18:32:49] elChisoso : Jobby: The max of maker rebate today is still 0.025% if I understood the charter correctly, but it requires you to hold 1m+ bmex.
[2023-09-03 18:33:06] elChisoso : Let me double check that.
[2023-09-03 18:33:47] elChisoso : Jobby: Indeed you are correct.
[2023-09-03 18:34:03] elChisoso : Thats bad though.
[2023-09-03 18:39:33] GoldFish79 : MrBritcoin: the best short signal is you betting against your own weekend meme and longing above cme while its closed kekekek
[2023-09-03 18:40:33] elChisoso : Expecting a CME close at 9.6 in the next 14 days.
[2023-09-03 18:44:43] GoldFish79 : comment checks out https://www.tradingview.com/x/vmA5eduf/
[2023-09-03 18:45:25] riz2 : TANK THIS THANG
[2023-09-03 18:48:47] elChisoso : GoldFish79: +42 ser.
[2023-09-03 18:50:26] GoldFish79 : elChisoso: +1 bk
[2023-09-03 18:50:28] GoldFish79 : Sir
[2023-09-03 18:50:50] elChisoso : GoldFish79: Its worth the wait and the patience indeed.
[2023-09-03 18:51:00] Atlemos : Any trolls in??
[2023-09-03 18:51:04] Atlemos : need pro ta
[2023-09-03 18:51:05] elChisoso : While waiting, just short WLD to zero.
[2023-09-03 18:51:10] GoldFish79 : elChisoso: A**GREED**
[2023-09-03 18:53:07] elChisoso : WLD is LUNA but in slow motion.
[2023-09-03 18:55:30] Dr.LongBear : Atlemos: UP
[2023-09-03 18:55:35] Dr.LongBear : TA is scam
[2023-09-03 18:55:48] elChisoso : Always expect lower prices in the beer market.
[2023-09-03 18:55:55] Atlemos : Thank you bera 😬
[2023-09-03 18:57:17] Atlemos : Lets se how next week starts
[2023-09-03 18:59:12] elChisoso : Next week is 23.5 minimum.
[2023-09-03 18:59:16] elChisoso : after that 17.6
[2023-09-03 18:59:20] elChisoso : then 9.6
[2023-09-03 18:59:27] elChisoso : and finally 4k before chrismas.
[2023-09-03 18:59:44] elChisoso : Bullievers will be rekt
[2023-09-03 19:02:09] Dr.LongBear : Atlemos: https://imgur.com/a/m55pIwu
[2023-09-03 19:02:29] 100.00x : can we dump pls
[2023-09-03 19:02:41] Dr.LongBear : 100.00x: nope
[2023-09-03 19:02:49] Dr.LongBear : no dump anytime soon
[2023-09-03 19:02:57] 100.00x : this week should be a bearadise
[2023-09-03 19:03:02] Dr.LongBear : choose green button
[2023-09-03 19:03:09] Dr.LongBear : make the right choice
[2023-09-03 19:08:55] Dr.LongBear : ***MAKE BIGCOIN GREAT AGAIN***
[2023-09-03 19:09:57] Atlemos : Dr.LongBear: 😲
[2023-09-03 19:09:58] 100.00x : the next bull run will be fake af
[2023-09-03 19:10:04] 100.00x : we can even reach ATH
[2023-09-03 19:10:13] Dr.LongBear : 100.00x: LIES
[2023-09-03 19:10:50] 100.00x : man the devil plan is to go into 2024 fake bull to ATH by 10$ into big drop as soon as Binance is officially off the mkt
[2023-09-03 19:11:09] Fuun : is nobody reacting to your talk?
[2023-09-03 19:11:23] Dr.LongBear : Fuun: looser
[2023-09-03 19:11:25] Fuun : when we talk heart rates are going wild.
[2023-09-03 19:11:31] Fuun : :joy:
[2023-09-03 19:12:04] Fuun : sad young bitmex influencer.
[2023-09-03 19:12:17] Fuun : maybe u share some photos with your hoodie.
[2023-09-03 19:12:26] Fuun : to get it going.
[2023-09-03 19:14:14] fishfood : In the land of trades, Bitcoin bears and bulls clash, Price swings, hearts racing.
[2023-09-03 19:21:24] riz2 : everyone loosing cash
[2023-09-03 19:21:44] elChisoso : Bulls is expert in loosing money.
[2023-09-03 19:21:56] elChisoso : Could not have said it better myself.
[2023-09-03 19:25:46] Dario2 : Fuun: I have a hoodie with a picture of me spanking an evil not so Fuun girl. 😈Maybe I should share it to get things going :kek:
[2023-09-03 19:28:39] Atlemos : LongBera do you have any news on Werner the one and only? he was here more often some weeks ago
[2023-09-03 19:29:34] Dr.LongBear : Atlemos: yeah he is kinda busy right now, probably he will come back in some times :)
[2023-09-03 19:29:49] Dr.LongBear : Everyone missing his spam lol
[2023-09-03 19:29:59] Atlemos : 😄
[2023-09-03 19:33:58] riz2 : ayo wtf
[2023-09-03 19:36:30] riz2 : this thing better fall out its ass
[2023-09-03 19:36:37] LittleBuck : 3hr bully btc https://www.tradingview.com/x/vZPqVqwl
[2023-09-03 19:36:45] Dr.LongBear : REKTing some bears as usual
[2023-09-03 19:36:54] MrBritcoin : buy buy buy buy buy buy
[2023-09-03 19:37:17] riz2 : las tentries before 24
[2023-09-03 19:37:20] 100.00x : sweet dump week inc
[2023-09-03 19:38:00] 100.00x : riz2: twenty three point five
[2023-09-03 19:38:50] riz2 : 100.00x: i hope so
[2023-09-03 19:39:12] LittleBuck : 3hr with ao https://www.tradingview.com/x/LPlMvzlO
[2023-09-03 19:39:14] riz2 : 100.00x: gonna put in limit for 23,750
[2023-09-03 19:39:50] 100.00x : yeah i have closings around this price too @riz2
[2023-09-03 19:39:58] 100.00x : might reverse there we shall see
[2023-09-03 19:40:27] riz2 : @100.00x scared of my liq tho
[2023-09-03 19:40:40] elChisoso : 4k soon.
[2023-09-03 19:40:44] elChisoso : en route has started
[2023-09-03 19:41:37] riz2 : i wonder whos waking up the world for this
[2023-09-03 19:41:38] elChisoso : 800 bot is going short.
[2023-09-03 19:41:44] elChisoso : It never lies.
[2023-09-03 19:42:26] elChisoso : One of my bots is following the 800 bot, and it is the most proftable bot I have.
[2023-09-03 19:43:37] 100.00x : elChisoso: do you code them or pay somewhere ?
[2023-09-03 19:43:47] elChisoso : 100.00x: I code.
[2023-09-03 19:43:59] 100.00x : Q1 2024 i'll start python seriously
[2023-09-03 19:44:24] elChisoso : 100.00x: I love python, but it will only work so far.
[2023-09-03 19:44:32] riz2 : elChisoso: what entry did the bot give?
[2023-09-03 19:44:54] elChisoso : Been doing python fpr 24 years ish. And C for 5 of those years.
[2023-09-03 19:45:02] Dr.LongBear : 100.00x: nice, python is great
[2023-09-03 19:45:10] elChisoso : riz2: 26006.0
[2023-09-03 19:45:22] 100.00x : yeah it's powerful
[2023-09-03 19:45:47] elChisoso : riz2: For now, but i follow its orders, so if it breaks up I will follow its follow up orders as well.
[2023-09-03 19:46:20] riz2 : elChisoso: nice
[2023-09-03 19:46:42] elChisoso : Had a discussion the other day with Dario2 however python is good enough, C++ apparently is 17 times faster than Python. I find Python 3.11+ to be more than sufficent for most people.
[2023-09-03 19:47:18] riz2 : elChisoso: thanks for letting me know theirs programs for this im going to look into it further
[2023-09-03 19:47:26] elChisoso : When it comes to real time manipulation and execution, c++ is the way to go.
[2023-09-03 19:47:50] elChisoso : c++ is pure hell though, while python is a dance on roses. :)
[2023-09-03 19:48:00] 100.00x : ^
[2023-09-03 19:48:16] 100.00x : this has been all the advices I received indeed
[2023-09-03 19:49:08] elChisoso : I love python for testing ideas, to see if they hold up. Then convert them to C if they are showing profitability.
[2023-09-03 19:49:28] elChisoso : Just to follow the 800 both, python is more than enough.
[2023-09-03 19:49:39] 100.00x : python is far enough for my needs as I won't try to make complex strategy... aim to SLR each one so it wont be sophysticated
[2023-09-03 19:49:43] elChisoso : if you code asyncronisly.
[2023-09-03 19:50:18] elChisoso : Sync python is rather powerful, but as soon as you go for real parallism it won't be enough.
[2023-09-03 19:50:49] elChisoso : i mean, real concurrency.
[2023-09-03 19:51:32] bearmaster : we're are my bulls :doge:
[2023-09-03 19:51:44] elChisoso : bearmaster: almost at 26k mate.
[2023-09-03 19:51:54] 100.00x : bearmaster: 🐻
[2023-09-03 19:51:57] bearmaster : elChisoso: don't @ me Chorizo
[2023-09-03 19:52:13] bearmaster : HOPE EVERYONE IS WELL
[2023-09-03 19:52:22] elChisoso : bearmaster: There are these price levels I have added a reminder, just for you. Feel special.
[2023-09-03 19:52:25] bearmaster : I AM WISHING WELL THROW DOLER
[2023-09-03 19:52:27] Dr.LongBear : bearmaster: WASSU WASSU WASSU
[2023-09-03 19:52:37] bearmaster : Wishu washu :pepe:
[2023-09-03 19:52:43] elChisoso : :me:
[2023-09-03 19:52:52] bearmaster : Alright back to me movie goys have a good trade!!!!!!!!!
[2023-09-03 19:52:56] elChisoso : @pez can I get a cooler pepe?
[2023-09-03 19:53:01] bearmaster : :me:
[2023-09-03 19:53:53] elChisoso : Remember everyone, always @ bearmaster 25.5k, 26k and 48k.
[2023-09-03 19:54:27] elChisoso : Its of the most importance.
[2023-09-03 19:55:20] bearmaster : elChisoso: Also 6,9k
[2023-09-03 19:55:30] elChisoso : bearmaster: NOTED!
[2023-09-03 19:58:14] LittleBuck : Python smython I ate the beating heart of 3 cobras 🐍
[2023-09-03 19:59:27] Dario2 : LittleBuck: wtf man 😳
[2023-09-03 19:59:45] Dario2 : how did it taste?
[2023-09-03 19:59:49] LittleBuck : Visits to Vietnam for biz in past
[2023-09-03 20:00:02] LittleBuck : 3hr btc pampeet https://www.tradingview.com/x/lpD4h5df
[2023-09-03 20:00:41] LittleBuck : They went down fast like fak followed by Heineken
[2023-09-03 20:01:15] bearmaster : lets build a ladder upwards guys :doge:
[2023-09-03 20:01:27] bearmaster : trigger all those buy erders :doge:
[2023-09-03 20:01:32] LittleBuck : Respekt lol..when in Rome do as the Roman's do
[2023-09-03 20:01:32] Dario2 : LittleBuck: Was it expensive?
[2023-09-03 20:01:59] LittleBuck : 60 buck usd a snake I think
[2023-09-03 20:02:25] LittleBuck : They kill and bleed out at table and remove hearts n bladder or something
[2023-09-03 20:02:30] LittleBuck : Nice ladies
[2023-09-03 20:02:48] riz2 : dbl top?
[2023-09-03 20:02:58] LittleBuck : I was born year of snake
[2023-09-03 20:03:03] elChisoso : dbl top at the bottom, indeed ser.
[2023-09-03 20:03:06] Dr.LongBear : infinite top
[2023-09-03 20:03:10] Dr.LongBear : infinite profits
[2023-09-03 20:03:16] LittleBuck : riz2: no double top ever btc re 69k
[2023-09-03 20:03:21] LittleBuck : Ie
[2023-09-03 20:03:26] LittleBuck : *
[2023-09-03 20:03:45] LittleBuck : Many double bottomz
[2023-09-03 20:03:47] bearmaster : /position xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: 40,000 USD @ 25823.5118 ```
[2023-09-03 20:03:54] bearmaster : money where me mouth is
[2023-09-03 20:04:02] bearmaster : filthy whore mouth of mine :doge:
[2023-09-03 20:04:05] LittleBuck : bearmaster: boss
[2023-09-03 20:04:19] bearmaster : blue gon short it back hmm mm
[2023-09-03 20:06:20] MrBritcoin : https://youtu.be/uUa21dJKCwI?si=_e6RCxFD_RI7CRdK
[2023-09-03 20:07:09] bearmaster : LittleBuck: SBF's troll girlfriend still has a short running with 2B lev @ 69k so it has so hunt it my good sir
[2023-09-03 20:07:22] bearmaster : It's Newtones's law
[2023-09-03 20:09:31] LittleBuck : bearmaster: hmm I listen only
[2023-09-03 20:09:41] LittleBuck : Open mind
[2023-09-03 20:09:59] LittleBuck : How many btc on market?
[2023-09-03 20:10:22] LittleBuck : Sbf troll girl CZ
[2023-09-03 20:10:55] LittleBuck : E=mcsquared missing muzik factor
[2023-09-03 20:10:57] bearmaster : LittleBuck: CZ still has so die before sbf trollgirl hunt
[2023-09-03 20:11:14] bearmaster : or do they really have enough capital to keep this shit goin up
[2023-09-03 20:11:19] bearmaster : idk brev
[2023-09-03 20:11:27] bearmaster : his head build like an m&m anywayz
[2023-09-03 20:11:32] bearmaster : im not scared of no peanuts
[2023-09-03 20:11:34] bearmaster : :doge:
[2023-09-03 20:12:10] bearmaster : I think he hired Sam jewman fried for a nice little pocket change
[2023-09-03 20:12:16] bearmaster : it do be like that...
[2023-09-03 20:12:28] LittleBuck : Cardi B cashflow Harlem btc https://youtu.be/aQji9QVX_lw?si=ZY7Y0ejl3b43gvKA
[2023-09-03 20:21:33] Dario2 : MrBritcoin: Didn’t know Isle of Man was so beautiful. David Icke also lives there. Makes me wonder…
[2023-09-03 20:21:56] Dario2 : MrBritcoin: What do you think of David?
[2023-09-03 20:26:10] LittleBuck : Tokyo Monday early birdz waking
[2023-09-03 20:26:19] LittleBuck : Btc buyerz
[2023-09-03 20:27:04] Atlemos : bearmaster: bera how has this week been?
[2023-09-03 20:28:44] riz2 : double top plus head n shoulde ron the 3 min we about to tank
[2023-09-03 20:31:20] bearmaster : Atlemos: meh buddy of mine is kind of losing it or something so I've been occupied
[2023-09-03 20:31:38] bearmaster : they swatted his ass
[2023-09-03 20:33:54] Atlemos : Dario2: dario I have a big problem with what the big boxes in Saqqara have been used for. Have you heard any good theory? it looks like a storage of some kind, where they move them in and out
[2023-09-03 20:34:37] Atlemos : bearmaster: thats bad to hear sir, drugs?
[2023-09-03 20:35:56] bearmaster : Atlemos: probably lol
[2023-09-03 20:36:23] bearmaster : he threatened to release gov docs on fb or something and was screaming off the balcony
[2023-09-03 20:36:53] bearmaster : tripping genuine ballz
[2023-09-03 20:38:28] Atlemos : bearmaster: oh dear, hope next week will be better for him
[2023-09-03 20:39:04] bearmaster : I don't think he's gonna be home long
[2023-09-03 20:39:22] bearmaster : Needs like a ward y'no
[2023-09-03 20:39:26] bearmaster : or a good shrink
[2023-09-03 20:42:17] Atlemos : i got a neigbour that throwed out pottery with flowers on the street, was a real mess
[2023-09-03 20:42:38] lazyzen : bearmaster: alive and kicking ?
[2023-09-03 20:42:40] Atlemos : from the balkony
[2023-09-03 20:42:50] bearmaster : gosh darnit not the flowers
[2023-09-03 20:43:03] bearmaster : lazyzen: just kicking ser
[2023-09-03 20:46:18] fcarvas : Damp cancelled?
[2023-09-03 20:46:42] MrBritcoin : Dario2: you got to read between the lines with him
[2023-09-03 20:46:56] 100.00x : fcarvas: loading
[2023-09-03 20:48:22] hehe MOON : Weak ass bearas
[2023-09-03 20:48:26] hehe MOON : Thats all?
[2023-09-03 20:48:34] hehe MOON : You tried
[2023-09-03 20:48:42] hehe MOON : 🚀🚀🚀
[2023-09-03 20:49:32] riz2 : gad dam cup n handle
[2023-09-03 20:49:56] riz2 : 100.00x: whats the bot say?
[2023-09-03 20:50:22] bearmaster : Magic 8-ball says: Ask again later.
[2023-09-03 20:50:32] riz2 : bearmaster: lmao
[2023-09-03 20:50:33] 100.00x : riz2: no idea it's @elChisoso toy
[2023-09-03 20:50:44] bmexlover : why my withdraw still waiting since 3 -4 hours
[2023-09-03 20:50:45] riz2 : 100.00x: my bad
[2023-09-03 20:51:01] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated short on `XBTV23`: Buy 100 USD @ 26068 - 🐳
[2023-09-03 20:52:58] elChisoso : 100.00x: I am a toy, a very expensive one.
[2023-09-03 20:53:48] LittleBuck : Gzus btc https://youtu.be/H2hGrsExuyc?si=Pe-UXWMtu4ZPWg9Y
[2023-09-03 20:54:28] Atlemos : (pump test)
[2023-09-03 20:54:43] elChisoso : Atlemos: +1 followers needed
[2023-09-03 20:55:27] riz2 : 1 like = 1 pump
[2023-09-03 20:55:44] bearmaster : XBTV?
[2023-09-03 20:55:51] bearmaster : Some kinda midget porn site?
[2023-09-03 20:56:16] bmexlover : X BY THE WAY
[2023-09-03 20:58:24] Atlemos : elChisoso: 😁
[2023-09-03 20:58:25] elChisoso : Like me and you will be a winner, +1 to me
[2023-09-03 20:58:34] bearmaster : elChisoso: +2,5
[2023-09-03 20:58:47] elChisoso : 3.5 so far, go go go.
[2023-09-03 20:59:10] LittleBuck : 3 hrs btc bully btfd https://www.tradingview.com/x/wAylazWq
[2023-09-03 20:59:16] elChisoso : Need at leat 50 for winning.
[2023-09-03 21:00:42] elChisoso : I guess no one believes in the eternal pump to 76.6
[2023-09-03 21:00:47] elChisoso : okok, be losers.
[2023-09-03 21:01:41] Dario2 : Atlemos: Those Saqqara boxes are still a mystery to me and I’m puzzled by them, as much as you. Very fascinating stuff. The last time I was watching a doc about it, I had my doubts about the official theory and was a bit scared tbh. So you think the boxes were used for storage? Sounds interesting. I wonder what they were storing and why…
[2023-09-03 21:02:27] Dario2 : MrBritcoin: hehe yeah
[2023-09-03 21:02:32] bearmaster : elChisoso: I need 129k this weekend
[2023-09-03 21:02:36] bearmaster : Or I rekt
[2023-09-03 21:02:51] elChisoso : bearmaster: Dreams wont come true this weekend.
[2023-09-03 21:03:10] elChisoso : No one belived in me, so 23.5k is next ser.
[2023-09-03 21:03:22] MrBritcoin : Dario2: if you could turn that box off on the moon we may see things as they are lol
[2023-09-03 21:03:56] Dario2 : MrBritcoin: lol
[2023-09-03 21:08:26] Atlemos : Dario2: 😎👍
[2023-09-03 21:09:51] Atlemos : I wonder what the deposit withdraw ratio is on this site
[2023-09-03 21:10:33] elChisoso : is lol an adjective or a substantive?
[2023-09-03 21:10:40] elChisoso : Thats the true question.
[2023-09-03 21:11:08] Dario2 : I admire your curiosity and creative mind, Sir @Atlemos 👍
[2023-09-03 21:11:29] Dr.LongBear : Atlemos: mine is infinitly negative x)
[2023-09-03 21:12:00] bearmaster : Stop getting these kids to withdraw before the big wicketone sers
[2023-09-03 21:12:06] bearmaster : Very rude.
[2023-09-03 21:12:09] Atlemos : Dr.LongBear: me to lol, straight to arthurs pocket, not ok!!
[2023-09-03 21:12:30] bearmaster : TALK LIKE REAL PPL UR MAKING ME SCHIZO TOO
[2023-09-03 21:12:33] Dr.LongBear : Atlemos: trapped here untile refund :D
[2023-09-03 21:12:37] bearmaster : :pepe:
[2023-09-03 21:14:08] MrBritcoin : huge gap up from cme moon eet
[2023-09-03 21:14:43] bearmaster : /position xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: 40,000 USD @ 25823.5118 ```
[2023-09-03 21:14:50] bearmaster : absolute bedrock bottom of 25823 was hit
[2023-09-03 21:14:59] bearmaster : do not get it twisted
[2023-09-03 21:15:08] bearmaster : BEDROCK BOTTOM
[2023-09-03 21:15:36] Atlemos : bearmaster: siii
[2023-09-03 21:15:37] kareivis : bearmaster: AH AH AH poor long. That gonna dump hard. Thank for your money :)
[2023-09-03 21:15:55] bearmaster : Hehehehe
[2023-09-03 21:16:08] bearmaster : Don't have to tell me I rubbed my crystal nuts
[2023-09-03 21:16:18] bearmaster : Massive send-o-tron 3000
[2023-09-03 21:16:21] bearmaster : :doge:
[2023-09-03 21:17:46] bearmaster : Arthur's head reflects so much sun it's said to generate power for his whole 500 square mile estate in the Habama's
[2023-09-03 21:18:11] Dario2 : :kek:
[2023-09-03 21:18:40] bearmaster : :kek:
[2023-09-03 21:18:49] Atlemos : Arthur need no reffer links to got the wheels spinning
[2023-09-03 21:19:42] bearmaster : :arthur: SPINNIN WHEELS :kek:
[2023-09-03 21:22:18] bearmaster : closed
[2023-09-03 21:22:21] elChisoso : Bulls never learn? again? getting old
[2023-09-03 21:22:25] bearmaster : this is so rekt
[2023-09-03 21:22:27] bearmaster : :doge:
[2023-09-03 21:22:33] 9figrs : 50cent bullrun finished?
[2023-09-03 21:22:33] elChisoso : Told ya 800 bot was selling ffs.
[2023-09-03 21:22:50] Atlemos : bearmaster: spinnin wheels and up syndrome
[2023-09-03 21:23:06] Dario2 : elChisoso: Who made the 800 bot?
[2023-09-03 21:23:25] elChisoso : Dario2: A random person, but its alwayr right for some reason.
[2023-09-03 21:23:33] bearmaster : I beat down syndrome in '03
[2023-09-03 21:23:51] elChisoso : Just track recent trades for 800 sized orders in a row.
[2023-09-03 21:24:14] Atlemos : bearmaster: 😆😆
[2023-09-03 21:24:25] elChisoso : Down we go.
[2023-09-03 21:24:49] Atlemos : bearmaster: dont forget to take them boster shots
[2023-09-03 21:24:55] elChisoso : Counter orders from 800 bot is not yet to be seen, it will go deeper.
[2023-09-03 21:25:06] bearmaster : DONT LONG
[2023-09-03 21:25:13] bearmaster : :btc:
[2023-09-03 21:26:00] Dario2 : elChisoso: So it’s possible to be always right. We just have to find out how
[2023-09-03 21:26:41] elChisoso : Dario2: It is not. 800 bot can also be wrong, you will find its counter orders higher up if its wrong with a multiplier of 1.6.
[2023-09-03 21:26:42] 9figrs : you just have to never be wrong! ha!
[2023-09-03 21:27:29] elChisoso : If it is wrong 2 times in a row the next will be 800 orders of a multiplier of 2.4
[2023-09-03 21:28:14] bearmaster : It's %
[2023-09-03 21:28:21] elChisoso : I have studied this orderbook for some time. 800 bot always prrofits.
[2023-09-03 21:28:23] Dario2 : elChisoso: You said it’s always right for some reason. So it’s not always right…
[2023-09-03 21:28:35] riz2 : elChisoso: lmao dawg im runnin 50x
[2023-09-03 21:28:44] elChisoso : Dario2: I am always right when I say 800 bot is not always right.
[2023-09-03 21:29:15] bearmaster : Dario2: It's exchanges working together with algo's to follow a steady rektonage pattern
[2023-09-03 21:29:16] elChisoso : But if it is always right I am wrong 33.54% of the times.
[2023-09-03 21:29:38] elChisoso : Probability, is how I roll.
[2023-09-03 21:29:40] bearmaster : once too much exposure enters market it is programmed to keep the range tight and leech sweet fund rates.
[2023-09-03 21:29:54] bearmaster : Once they exit it is programmed to smack for MAX fomo. :kek:
[2023-09-03 21:29:54] elChisoso : 4k before chrismas anyone?
[2023-09-03 21:30:17] Dario2 : elChisoso: you said it’s always right, then 30 seconds later, you said the exact opposite. Sorry I was a bit confused, mate 🤣
[2023-09-03 21:30:25] bearmaster : It's called Aladdin 3
[2023-09-03 21:30:49] 9figrs : elChisoso: cz been telling everyone the number 4 for some times now
[2023-09-03 21:30:50] elChisoso : Dario2: Sorry mate, I just want to increase consusation rate of the majority because majority can never be right.
[2023-09-03 21:31:00] elChisoso : confusiocation*
[2023-09-03 21:31:07] 9figrs : when 4k hits no one should be surprised
[2023-09-03 21:31:12] 9figrs : cz been saying it for long time now
[2023-09-03 21:31:14] elChisoso : 4k will be hit.
[2023-09-03 21:31:23] elChisoso : Only Dario2 don't believe this i think.
[2023-09-03 21:31:30] Atlemos : Who is the Mags guy?
[2023-09-03 21:32:00] elChisoso : Love these sunday night discussions.