This is a mirror of the original BitMEX trollbox archive that used to be online here.
BitMEX disabled their archive after the DDOS attack so I have decided to make my mirror publicly available.

Well now, a few days after I made this mirror available to the public, the original archive from BitMEX is online again.
But since it is still limited (neutered to the last few hundred messages) I will keep my FULL mirror alive.

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[2023-08-29 07:21:01] Hermite : BAM Trading: seriously, if there is no mass, there is no time
[2023-08-29 07:21:27] BAM Trading : ok, mate. gues you guys must be right then
[2023-08-29 07:21:28] ointerMC : Hermite: is that why supermodels seem dumb sometimes?
[2023-08-29 07:21:32] BAM Trading : srry
[2023-08-29 07:21:34] ointerMC : they have less mass so they are travelling through time faster
[2023-08-29 07:21:39] ointerMC : making their responses seem slow?
[2023-08-29 07:22:03] ointerMC : but really, their response to a question took the same amount of time it would take a normal weight person
[2023-08-29 07:22:11] ointerMC : #deep
[2023-08-29 07:22:21] Hermite : ointerMC: it's a physics law, the two are inverse proportional to each other.
[2023-08-29 07:22:29] ointerMC : Hermite: shutup nerd
[2023-08-29 07:22:35] OrangeBull : elChisoso:4k will never happen, wait for it can make you lose the chance to buy btc cheaper
[2023-08-29 07:22:42] BAM Trading : ointerMC: you started it
[2023-08-29 07:22:56] ointerMC : BAM Trading: it is a high intelligence joke, you wouldnt get it
[2023-08-29 07:23:00] Hermite : smash a like, they deserve it https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Xh6E4Zb7Zj0 @ointerMC
[2023-08-29 07:23:10] BAM Trading : ointerMC: i know
[2023-08-29 07:23:42] BAM Trading : ointerMC: your intelligence is clearly vastly superior to mine, please forgive me master bigbrain
[2023-08-29 07:24:16] ointerMC : BAM Trading: i do ser
[2023-08-29 07:24:24] ointerMC : Hermite: ser i cannot
[2023-08-29 07:24:35] ointerMC : i do not use youtube on my pc
[2023-08-29 07:29:28] wassa_wassa_bitconee : enjoying the sideways fookery plebs ?
[2023-08-29 07:40:10] DLTGovProf : When you come to a fork on the road ... take it. :-D
[2023-08-29 07:41:04] elChisoso : down down down we goooo. "unexpected".
[2023-08-29 07:42:53] DLTGovProf : Who's the brain bug?
[2023-08-29 07:43:43] ointerMC : DLTGovProf: brain bug?
[2023-08-29 07:44:14] DLTGovProf : ointerMC and BAM discussing intelligence.
[2023-08-29 07:44:32] DLTGovProf : Referring to the Brain Bug from Starship Troopers. I'm an old guy. Hahahaha
[2023-08-29 07:50:23] ointerMC : DLTGovProf: lul
[2023-08-29 07:57:46] Schmico666 : we will go up soon and it will be a facemelting pump
[2023-08-29 07:58:01] Schmico666 : 33k Britcoin predicted it
[2023-08-29 08:04:36] BAM Trading : oooh boi
[2023-08-29 08:04:48] BAM Trading : there they were again
[2023-08-29 08:05:05] BAM Trading : did you saw them?👀
[2023-08-29 08:05:08] BAM Trading : see*
[2023-08-29 08:06:16] BitMEX_pez : gm
[2023-08-29 08:06:45] BAM Trading : morning
[2023-08-29 08:07:03] BitMEX_pez : Private guilds went live today. you can now create a group to trade with your friends / share positions etc without having randoms take a look
[2023-08-29 08:07:46] BitMEX_pez : I"m looking for volunteers to do an interview with our new design lead to talk about what you like / dislike about bitmex. anyone interested? @BAM Trading
[2023-08-29 08:08:11] BAM Trading : where? how long will it take?
[2023-08-29 08:08:33] BitMEX_pez : BAM Trading: on zoom or chat if you prefer.. maybe 15 mins? up to you
[2023-08-29 08:08:53] BAM Trading : I don't have a webcam tho
[2023-08-29 08:09:09] BitMEX_pez : BAM Trading: thats fine. call is good or DMs to ask some questions
[2023-08-29 08:09:35] BAM Trading : sure
[2023-08-29 08:09:40] BAM Trading : where do I sign up?
[2023-08-29 08:09:57] BitMEX_pez : Thanks you just did. I'm collecting usernames
[2023-08-29 08:10:34] BAM Trading : cool
[2023-08-29 08:11:17] petyx : keep it hyper dumpin'
[2023-08-29 08:12:11] BAM Trading : petyx: don't forget to short sei
[2023-08-29 08:12:23] BAM Trading : it's going to 2 cts
[2023-08-29 08:12:25] BAM Trading : literally
[2023-08-29 08:13:01] BAM Trading : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDSLmwUGP-8
[2023-08-29 08:13:15] Hermite : BAM Trading: give here a like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jidhukB8Kk
[2023-08-29 08:14:02] BAM Trading : Hermite: honestly, that's not really my kind of sound
[2023-08-29 08:14:29] Hermite : BAM Trading: she needs you to upgrade the boobies
[2023-08-29 08:14:59] BAM Trading : Hermite: she better upgrade her sound then
[2023-08-29 08:15:05] BAM Trading : I'd prefer this then https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMVM0kuc5rA&list=PL3Sf6Xs60xUZX0kfj9zC_ngv8lRLCHKwD&index=20
[2023-08-29 08:16:06] BAM Trading : it's so good Iactually bought the track
[2023-08-29 08:19:14] Hermite : BAM Trading: love this minimal sound, thanks❕
[2023-08-29 08:19:32] BAM Trading : always welcome mate :)
[2023-08-29 08:21:49] BAM Trading : Hermite: You may also like: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bz47xmrKX7g
[2023-08-29 08:22:54] BAM Trading : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cm9-rxb3Xfo
[2023-08-29 08:23:04] Hermite : BAM Trading: also massive❕
[2023-08-29 08:23:27] BAM Trading : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oY1y1lPrAlo
[2023-08-29 08:23:36] Schmico666 : MASSIVE PUMP AHEAD!!!!!
[2023-08-29 08:23:43] Schmico666 : 🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀
[2023-08-29 08:28:47] Fuun : still sad.
[2023-08-29 08:29:06] Fuun : but u are tryin at least, that part is cute.
[2023-08-29 08:29:16] Fuun : move on, young dev kit.
[2023-08-29 08:29:23] Hermite : BAM Trading: tb303 never gets old
[2023-08-29 08:30:00] Hermite : Schmico666: 24 is more likely next week, if not this.
[2023-08-29 08:33:50] Schmico666 : 🚁🚁🚁🚁🚁🚁🚁🚁🚁🚁🚁🚁🚁🚁🚁
[2023-08-29 08:34:00] Schmico666 : Hermite: its only FUD
[2023-08-29 08:35:17] Hermite : Schmico666: OI is dead, no fuel.
[2023-08-29 08:35:31] elChisoso : This market has zero buyers.
[2023-08-29 08:35:36] elChisoso : One thing can only happen.
[2023-08-29 08:35:42] elChisoso : Ultra Nuke, 4k.
[2023-08-29 08:36:35] elChisoso : Damn WLD is a great short, lool, going to 0.
[2023-08-29 08:40:54] petyx : we need bera to dump this sht
[2023-08-29 08:41:10] petyx : grab some liquidity at 12k
[2023-08-29 08:41:30] Schmico666 : BOTTOM IS IN!!!
[2023-08-29 08:41:34] Schmico666 : UP ONLY UP!!!!
[2023-08-29 08:41:41] Schmico666 : ✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️
[2023-08-29 08:49:24] Schmico666 : elChisoso: wld IS THE FUTURE1
[2023-08-29 08:49:28] Schmico666 : !
[2023-08-29 08:49:53] elChisoso : Schmico666: It is the opposite, its like the start of a 1984 story, it has no place, short it to zero.
[2023-08-29 08:52:29] BAM Trading : BitMEX_pez: when exactly is this interview tho?
[2023-08-29 08:52:41] elChisoso : The time of crypto is over, just profit from whats left of it.
[2023-08-29 08:53:02] Schmico666 : 🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀
[2023-08-29 08:53:03] Fuun : https://peertube.lagbag.com/videos/watch/1844ed7d-8651-4a30-8914-0ecf8ee76c52 its okay, Todd has no problem with the leak of starfield.
[2023-08-29 08:53:30] Fuun : your dev kit tried already twice.
[2023-08-29 08:53:44] Fuun : relax, and try to understand it.
[2023-08-29 08:54:16] bmagic : Bull right now: "awwww fark"
[2023-08-29 08:54:59] bmagic : permabull right now: *licks lips*
[2023-08-29 09:10:06] Schmico666 : shibascam will arrive soon
[2023-08-29 09:17:15] lelskates : @bearmaster you here
[2023-08-29 09:17:25] lelskates : Da fuq is going on with Pepe
[2023-08-29 09:18:31] Schmico666 : PEPE will go to 10 $ next bullrun
[2023-08-29 09:18:35] Schmico666 : i am allin
[2023-08-29 09:18:54] lelskates : Lol
[2023-08-29 09:20:05] lelskates : There is only so many times 26 can break
[2023-08-29 09:20:09] lelskates : Until mega damp
[2023-08-29 09:20:22] lelskates : Ppl pricing in September already
[2023-08-29 09:25:18] Gandalf the Grey : This range is lol
[2023-08-29 09:26:58] 9figrs : 5cent range
[2023-08-29 09:27:21] 9figrs : btc doesnt have much time left at these prices anyway
[2023-08-29 09:27:26] 9figrs : the dumps will be fast
[2023-08-29 09:32:03] DogeX : **YOYO** :doge: :doge:
[2023-08-29 09:32:49] DogeX : Schmico666: :doge:
[2023-08-29 09:33:01] DogeX : elChisoso: :doge:
[2023-08-29 09:33:14] DogeX : Hermite: :doge:
[2023-08-29 09:33:16] elChisoso : DogeX: :doge:
[2023-08-29 09:33:25] Hermite : DogeX: :catjam:
[2023-08-29 09:33:57] DogeX : https://x.com/dogexbt/status/1696443551314247852?s=46&t=jfjzMbzSTEvjmwZqLsVFsQ 👀
[2023-08-29 09:34:18] Hermite : Gandalf the Grey: the OI is tiny, so no fuel at all, although it is starting to grow.
[2023-08-29 09:43:03] Schmico666 : PUMP INCOMING!!!!
[2023-08-29 09:43:31] DCZenon : Yes gimme the pump pls I want it 😈
[2023-08-29 09:43:41] DCZenon : I’m ready I’m ready I’m ready
[2023-08-29 09:43:51] DCZenon : Load ze pump
[2023-08-29 09:43:59] Schmico666 : 🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀
[2023-08-29 09:44:22] New Age : /pnl xbtusd cold cold heart ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: 3.3760 XBT RPNL, -0.2828 XBT UPNL ```
[2023-08-29 09:44:27] DCZenon : Bait longs on a dead cat and bring it to hades boys
[2023-08-29 09:47:10] Hermite : 9figrs: Are you *Finnic99* ?
[2023-08-29 09:48:10] Hermite : 9figrs: how's your long position, still hodling?
[2023-08-29 09:57:37] BAM Trading : DogeX: Lol, must be them https://www.tradingview.com/x/gSvwjblp/
[2023-08-29 09:58:16] 9figrs : Hermite: what?
[2023-08-29 09:58:47] 9figrs : Hermite: im not longing?
[2023-08-29 09:59:03] Hermite : 9figrs: are you *Finnic99* ❔
[2023-08-29 09:59:26] 9figrs : ? i asked the other day if someone was finnic
[2023-08-29 09:59:31] 9figrs : so why tf would i be finnic?
[2023-08-29 10:00:07] BAM Trading : 9figrs: reverse psychology
[2023-08-29 10:01:44] 9figrs : anyway btc is the same garbage as it was since its birth
[2023-08-29 10:02:29] Hermite : 9figrs: btc is the future world reserve currency
[2023-08-29 10:02:55] 9figrs : ahhhh yess the thing that goes from 3k to 69k back to 3k
[2023-08-29 10:04:18] BAM Trading : Hermite: yes
[2023-08-29 10:04:25] BAM Trading : from the taliban and kartels
[2023-08-29 10:04:46] BAM Trading : the rest will be using either euros, yuan or dollar
[2023-08-29 10:05:16] 9figrs : bitcoin market is the exact use case as other stocks
[2023-08-29 10:05:30] 9figrs : markets are just here for money to be reallocated to those who deserve it
[2023-08-29 10:05:53] BAM Trading : 9figrs: meh I do belive it will fill something similar as the speculative part of the goldmarket
[2023-08-29 10:06:36] 9figrs : who owns all the gold
[2023-08-29 10:06:41] 9figrs : the average person doesnt have much
[2023-08-29 10:07:01] 9figrs : so what if it plays some role, hopefully you make money on it while you can
[2023-08-29 10:07:12] 9figrs : if you cant then who cares if its the world reserve currency?
[2023-08-29 10:08:02] BAM Trading : 9figrs: who cares whoever owns it, it's still a 12 TRILLION dollar market....
[2023-08-29 10:08:28] 9figrs : there is no point tryna be the guy saying bitcoin is this bitcoin is that if you didnt make any money on it
[2023-08-29 10:08:38] BAM Trading : we don't need a huge chunk of that for btc to be above 100k
[2023-08-29 10:08:39] 9figrs : you will get a gold sticker for predicting the out come of bitcoin but not making any money
[2023-08-29 10:09:02] 9figrs : bitcoin will and has become boring
[2023-08-29 10:09:25] 9figrs : would you believe me if i said btc wont be above 100k until maybe 2029 or 2033
[2023-08-29 10:09:41] BAM Trading : 9figrs: yup
[2023-08-29 10:09:42] BAM Trading : easy
[2023-08-29 10:09:50] BAM Trading : as a matter of fact that is what I bellive too
[2023-08-29 10:10:20] BAM Trading : at no point did I specify it to be tomorrow or eoy or whatever
[2023-08-29 10:10:35] 9figrs : yeah well my point is, who cares about what role bitcoin is going to play
[2023-08-29 10:10:38] 9figrs : just play the markets
[2023-08-29 10:10:43] 9figrs : its all the same
[2023-08-29 10:10:47] 9figrs : all of the markets literally the same
[2023-08-29 10:10:50] BAM Trading : now stfu, turn your speaks up and blaze this sh!t https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qfFxNabIs8
[2023-08-29 10:10:58] BAM Trading : speakers*
[2023-08-29 10:11:04] BAM Trading : 9figrs: we know
[2023-08-29 10:11:25] BAM Trading : congratulation on saying that all light makes the dark look bright
[2023-08-29 10:11:44] 9figrs : people are married to btc
[2023-08-29 10:11:49] 9figrs : and its gonna rekt them
[2023-08-29 10:11:50] BAM Trading : fkn edison right here
[2023-08-29 10:12:09] BAM Trading : 9figrs: well, who's money are gonna take if it wasn't for them?
[2023-08-29 10:13:06] 9figrs : BAM Trading: true but still, maybe one bulltart can win
[2023-08-29 10:13:29] BAM Trading : the winners will always be the same
[2023-08-29 10:13:38] BAM Trading : more or less
[2023-08-29 10:26:56] elChisoso : Bitcoin will follow WLD to the ground zero.
[2023-08-29 10:34:31] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated long on `PEPEUSDT`: Sell 10000 PEPE @ 8.29e-7 ($0.01)
[2023-08-29 10:36:13] Atlemos : dump test?
[2023-08-29 10:36:32] hehe MOON : Stairs down, elevator up
[2023-08-29 10:36:39] hehe MOON : Silly bearas never LERN
[2023-08-29 10:36:53] Atlemos : hehe MOON: lets hope 😁
[2023-08-29 10:37:35] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 400 USD @ 25918.5 - 🐳
[2023-08-29 10:37:49] BAM Trading : this one might just be quite fitting https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1F13VlVUy24
[2023-08-29 10:38:11] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated long on `PEPEUSDT`: Sell 10000 PEPE @ 8.27e-7 ($0.01)
[2023-08-29 10:39:45] "it will be........" : .
[2023-08-29 10:40:08] fcarvas : Red moon coming
[2023-08-29 10:42:01] Dario2 : BAM Trading: Nice one! loving it 👍
[2023-08-29 10:45:06] BAM Trading : Dario2: you're welcome mate :)
[2023-08-29 10:45:20] DogeX : :doge:
[2023-08-29 10:45:46] Dr.LongBear : DogeX: :doge::catjam::doge::catjam::doge::catjam::doge::catjam:
[2023-08-29 10:46:31] DogeX : Dr.LongBear: heloo
[2023-08-29 10:46:35] Dr.LongBear : hi
[2023-08-29 10:46:40] Dr.LongBear : How everything goin ?
[2023-08-29 10:47:10] DogeX : Yea good I just bussy on X @Dr.LongBear
[2023-08-29 10:47:26] DogeX : 2mch alpha for trolbox
[2023-08-29 10:47:56] Dr.LongBear : Hehe
[2023-08-29 10:47:57] DogeX : Dr.LongBear: wbu how u
[2023-08-29 10:47:58] Dr.LongBear : nice
[2023-08-29 10:48:14] Dr.LongBear : Yeah me just starting a new job
[2023-08-29 10:48:22] Dr.LongBear : Feels nice. I feel usefull
[2023-08-29 10:48:25] Dr.LongBear : And get money
[2023-08-29 10:48:54] BAM Trading : Dario2: You may also like: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=togc_3dvNk4
[2023-08-29 10:49:21] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated long on `PEPEUSDT`: Sell 10000 PEPE @ 8.29e-7 ($0.01)
[2023-08-29 10:49:27] DogeX : Dr.LongBear: :doge: :doge:
[2023-08-29 10:50:09] Dr.LongBear : fu it all guilds positions are underwater x)
[2023-08-29 10:50:42] Dr.LongBear : we all longs
[2023-08-29 10:51:57] 9figrs : new name = Retart Guild
[2023-08-29 10:56:22] Dario2 : BAM Trading: Thank you, mate. Can't sit down with this one. Have to stand up and dance with the tune 😃
[2023-08-29 10:57:55] BAM Trading : Dario2: one more then, not sure if you're into this little bit harder stuff too but here it is anyways https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvGFWvMrPnk
[2023-08-29 10:58:24] DogeX : Dr.LongBear: :doge:
[2023-08-29 11:05:05] Dario2 : BAM Trading: Thanks, mate. I like it +1
[2023-08-29 11:05:19] Dario2 : My neighbors also like it so much they threw a brick through my window to hear it better :kek:
[2023-08-29 11:05:42] Dario2 : This one should not be played with max volume hehe
[2023-08-29 11:07:29] BAM Trading : Dario2: hahaha, I have the smae highly appriciating neighbors XDXD
[2023-08-29 11:08:06] Dario2 : BAM Trading: haha 🤣
[2023-08-29 11:09:00] BAM Trading : Dario2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHMzPEsVkI8
[2023-08-29 11:13:20] DogeX : Brrrrrrrrrrrr💚💚🚀🚀🚀
[2023-08-29 11:17:55] Dario2 : BAM Trading: Amazing, mate! Very empowering 💚
[2023-08-29 11:18:07] Dario2 : Techno and Trace are my favorite genres, specially with female vocal, uplifting and feel-good melodies
[2023-08-29 11:20:35] Dario2 : I wonder who the statue is on the background...
[2023-08-29 11:21:16] BAM Trading : Dario2: good stuff
[2023-08-29 11:21:18] BAM Trading : not sure
[2023-08-29 11:21:32] BAM Trading : looks like it could be some sort of famous greek statue
[2023-08-29 11:21:57] Dario2 : yeah probably was thinking the same
[2023-08-29 11:22:22] DCZenon : 🇦🇺
[2023-08-29 11:23:49] DogeX : DCZenon: good day mate :doge:
[2023-08-29 11:33:51] Junny16 : t's a disgusting sideways. It is better to wait and see until the stock price decides the direction.
[2023-08-29 11:34:39] Hermite : smash a like for the best crowd in the world https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Bsm1jPvZj0
[2023-08-29 11:35:33] bmagic : moon landing in 7 hours
[2023-08-29 11:38:46] elChisoso : Only down in the bear market, straight line to 4k.
[2023-08-29 11:41:21] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated long on `PEPEUSD`: Sell 27 Cont @ 8.2e-7 ($5.75)
[2023-08-29 11:46:07] BAM Trading : elChisoso: WAAAAIIIT
[2023-08-29 11:46:16] BAM Trading : I thought it was long, right?!!
[2023-08-29 11:46:29] BAM Trading : so bullish rn
[2023-08-29 11:46:35] BAM Trading : 100x long
[2023-08-29 11:46:49] elChisoso : BAM Trading: I don't know what you thought. 100x long might be a good thing, or it might just be the worst.
[2023-08-29 11:47:18] elChisoso : It is always bearish in the bear market. That one is for sure.
[2023-08-29 11:47:49] elChisoso : No one wants dumpcorn.Buyers are ded.
[2023-08-29 11:48:08] Dario2 : BAM Trading: You are right, mate. After some googling, it's the statue of Oceanus, a Titan, the father of the river Gods and the Oceanids and according to Hesiod, there were three thousand of them. The river below the statue represents the eternal flow of time, in a cosmological sense. Oceanus was able to unleash gigantic tsunamis and tidal waves as seen during his battles with Poseidon. He could also generate water out of nothing. Sounds like he was an alien with high tech, mistaken as God.
[2023-08-29 11:50:08] BAM Trading : Dario2: pretty cool, thx for the info!
[2023-08-29 11:50:44] hehe MOON : Silly bearas
[2023-08-29 11:50:44] Dario2 : BAM Trading: welcome, mate. :) the statue is in Italy. I should visit it some day
[2023-08-29 11:51:09] BAM Trading : elChisoso: I'm actually trolling, but I do have to say, it does kinda look like sellers have kinda dried up for now
[2023-08-29 11:51:33] BAM Trading : let's see if they are stepping back up or not
[2023-08-29 11:51:48] elChisoso : BAM Trading: It depends on where you look it might look like a dry season around btc.
[2023-08-29 11:52:27] BAM Trading : elChisoso: you mean dry season as in not much action in genral?
[2023-08-29 11:52:54] elChisoso : BAM Trading: At least on BTC, since 23rd march 2023. Volume vise.
[2023-08-29 11:53:39] BAM Trading : elChisoso: yup, but that is always a precursor for massive action tho
[2023-08-29 11:53:48] elChisoso : Indeed, agree.
[2023-08-29 11:53:58] BAM Trading : anyways, I doubt the really big stuff is gona happen anytime soon tho
[2023-08-29 11:54:38] elChisoso : They tried to push it both up and down on low volume, but volume never came back, could be locked between 25k and 30k for some time.
[2023-08-29 11:54:56] elChisoso : Or dump to 4k, depends if it is chrismas or not.
[2023-08-29 11:55:21] Dr.LongBear : At least until 23 september in that range I think
[2023-08-29 11:55:34] BAM Trading : Dr.LongBear: is that the next fomc?
[2023-08-29 11:56:06] Dr.LongBear : BAM Trading: u right 19 september
[2023-08-29 11:56:15] Dr.LongBear : we should see some volume back in
[2023-08-29 11:56:16] BAM Trading : almost at the monthly close tho, just a fe more days
[2023-08-29 11:56:19] Dr.LongBear : then up
[2023-08-29 11:56:33] elChisoso : However, it is time to punish some late shorters, but might give them a carrot to follow first.
[2023-08-29 11:56:37] BAM Trading : next month COULD keep sliding down towards that 20k
[2023-08-29 11:56:39] BAM Trading : but I doubt it
[2023-08-29 11:57:02] elChisoso : Meanwhile i'll short WLD to zero.
[2023-08-29 11:57:17] BAM Trading : if so it will probably keep on sliding down for another year or so
[2023-08-29 11:57:45] Dr.LongBear : After december it should be only up @BAM Trading
[2023-08-29 11:58:17] elChisoso : Chrismas is in december? hmm, 4k before chrismas. So no up in december.
[2023-08-29 11:58:22] Dr.LongBear : halving may 2024
[2023-08-29 11:58:23] BAM Trading : too bad should don't really move the market, do they?
[2023-08-29 11:58:23] Dario2 : Dr.LongBear: +100 sir, can't wait for that
[2023-08-29 11:58:29] Dr.LongBear : lol 20K for shorters
[2023-08-29 11:58:33] Dr.LongBear : that a fair low price
[2023-08-29 11:58:45] Dr.LongBear : Dario2: +1000
[2023-08-29 11:59:30] BAM Trading : elChisoso: what entry you got?
[2023-08-29 11:59:53] BAM Trading : personally I'm seeing this as a potential scenario
[2023-08-29 12:00:33] elChisoso : I am waiting for my entry, i ninja closed my shorts when we dumped, then tried to long a bit, but never bounced so closed them off too.
[2023-08-29 12:01:14] BAM Trading : or perhaps it'ss be something like this https://www.tradingview.com/x/HX10PmmZ
[2023-08-29 12:01:16] BAM Trading : who knows
[2023-08-29 12:01:20] BAM Trading : could be anything
[2023-08-29 12:01:43] Dr.LongBear : BAM Trading: here my 2 cents https://imgur.com/a/m55pIwu
[2023-08-29 12:01:47] elChisoso : McDonalds pattern never disapoints.
[2023-08-29 12:02:14] BAM Trading : Dr.LongBear: also possible
[2023-08-29 12:02:28] elChisoso : Everything is possible, that is the mindset needed.
[2023-08-29 12:02:50] BAM Trading : nobody knows
[2023-08-29 12:02:54] BAM Trading : only the fed
[2023-08-29 12:02:57] BAM Trading : probably
[2023-08-29 12:03:23] elChisoso : I dont think even the fed knows, only the rng generator knows.
[2023-08-29 12:03:40] Dario2 : I would say from now until a few weeks after the mtgox sell pressure is exhausted, it will dump to a level determined by the willingness of whales to buy. I personally hope it' not below 20k, but right now, no one really knows how far it could go down
[2023-08-29 12:03:52] elChisoso : But volume really needs to come in, one way or an other. This low volume volatility is boring.
[2023-08-29 12:04:02] Dario2 : and hopefully after that it will start to pump as Dr.LongBear is saying
[2023-08-29 12:04:03] BAM Trading : elChisoso: lol, no sh!t, i literally ghot one of those
[2023-08-29 12:04:07] BAM Trading : I made it with python
[2023-08-29 12:04:26] elChisoso : BAM Trading: Python is the best language ser.
[2023-08-29 12:04:44] BAM Trading : nah, it's the easiest
[2023-08-29 12:04:49] BAM Trading : best is c++
[2023-08-29 12:04:52] BAM Trading : period.
[2023-08-29 12:05:18] elChisoso : Sure C++ is the best, there is no question about it. But its hard to write good code quickly in it.
[2023-08-29 12:05:24] Dario2 : BAM Trading: exactly, c++ is 50 times faster than python
[2023-08-29 12:06:04] elChisoso : 50 times? Curious, need to check that.
[2023-08-29 12:06:37] elChisoso : "Python 3.11 can be twice as fast compared to older versions of Python. Still, there is a large gap to the performance of C++, which is about 17 times faster."
[2023-08-29 12:06:48] Buckztr : Btc The Age of Aquarius https://youtu.be/ajgeaOt_HTQ?si=0X762mL7EBUQkSz3
[2023-08-29 12:06:53] elChisoso : 17 times is still speedy though.
[2023-08-29 12:07:23] Dario2 : elChisoso: that's according to benchmarks, not my personal opinion. Also all the number crunching and compute heavy modules in python are actually written in C or C++
[2023-08-29 12:07:36] Dario2 : any proper trading analysis requires extensive computing and therefore python won't suffice, unless you are a mid/long term trader
[2023-08-29 12:07:41] BAM Trading : elChisoso: c++ is and will remain vastly superior for a long time to come
[2023-08-29 12:07:45] Buckztr : 12hr wavee tunnel btc https://www.tradingview.com/x/Hlz5mjRr long eet
[2023-08-29 12:07:50] Dario2 : but the real profit for bots is in short term trades. quick in and out
[2023-08-29 12:08:06] Dario2 : Buckztr: nice to see you are back
[2023-08-29 12:08:23] elChisoso : I have nothing against C++ at all, I use it as well when I need performance. But usually end up for simpler tasks with Python.
[2023-08-29 12:09:03] Dario2 : elChisoso: also with python you can't really multhithread. It has the threading modules sure but GIL in python prevents any real multithreading
[2023-08-29 12:09:03] BAM Trading : elChisoso: pretty much the main approach
[2023-08-29 12:09:24] Dario2 : therefore python makes scaling up almost impossible
[2023-08-29 12:09:47] BAM Trading : Dario2: proper multi threating in c++ is kidna like a speciallity on it's own tho
[2023-08-29 12:09:49] Buckztr : Dario2: thnx bro..lol jus been minding my biz...been around. Thnx for your involvement.peace
[2023-08-29 12:09:59] elChisoso : Dario2: Indeed, one of the bigger takeaways from python.
[2023-08-29 12:10:03] BAM Trading : hats of to the people who are pro at that stuff
[2023-08-29 12:10:28] Dario2 : BAM Trading: hehe completely agree. Coding in C++ is like shooting yourself in the foot, but totally worth the time investment
[2023-08-29 12:10:42] Dario2 : I prefer the boost thread library above the standard library. has more features
[2023-08-29 12:11:28] Dario2 : Buckztr: peace back sir. Wishing you best of luck and profits
[2023-08-29 12:11:33] elChisoso : I would argue it is all about the use case and the time window you have that would select a language.
[2023-08-29 12:12:22] BAM Trading : it's quite remarklable howmany people in here actually do coding
[2023-08-29 12:12:47] Buckztr : Dario2: same 💪
[2023-08-29 12:13:01] elChisoso : You need to do some kind of coding in order to survive these markets long term.
[2023-08-29 12:13:20] elChisoso : Even if it is just a few lines here and there.
[2023-08-29 12:13:31] BAM Trading : elChisoso: wouldn't necesarily say that, but it sure helps
[2023-08-29 12:13:51] elChisoso : Ok, maybe it is because I have issues trusting third parties to develop stuff for me.
[2023-08-29 12:14:19] BAM Trading : it's moslty that systematic way of thinking
[2023-08-29 12:14:24] BAM Trading : smae with engineers
[2023-08-29 12:14:31] Dario2 : elChisoso: agree, always start with Python then once you are consistently profitable and expansion is required then lower level languages like C++ are a must
[2023-08-29 12:14:40] Dario2 : I also started with python 5-6 years ago
[2023-08-29 12:16:13] Dario2 : Take Facebook for example, Mark knew he had to code it in C++ but since he couldn't find good programmers and it was a very expensive language he opted for higher level languages but then after years he reverted back and recoded it in C++
[2023-08-29 12:16:14] elChisoso : Python 3.11 is quite an improvement from earlier generations though. But since everything runs ontop of C++ nothing will ever be as quick as C++
[2023-08-29 12:16:18] BAM Trading : on a quick sidenote, anybody in for some techhouse here?
[2023-08-29 12:17:01] Dario2 : elChisoso: Assembly is actually lower level and faster than C++
[2023-08-29 12:17:32] elChisoso : Dario2: You got me on that one. True! Wow almost forgot about assembly.
[2023-08-29 12:17:59] Dario2 : elChisoso: to be honest, assembly seems too difficult for me. I have many nightmares hehe
[2023-08-29 12:18:39] elChisoso : Dario2: But it will give you full control of .. everything if you master it. But is it worth the time and effort? questionable.
[2023-08-29 12:19:41] elChisoso : Assembly is not for me, it gives me headaches.
[2023-08-29 12:19:52] Dario2 : elChisoso: not worth it when it comes to trading unless your strategy is HFT but coding it will require at least 500K usd investment
[2023-08-29 12:20:09] Dario2 : so it's not recommended to retail
[2023-08-29 12:20:11] BAM Trading : if you a fluent in assembly or mahine code you ARE a computer XD
[2023-08-29 12:20:27] Dario2 : BAM Trading: hehe xD
[2023-08-29 12:20:50] BAM Trading : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ld2VG_HFPjk
[2023-08-29 12:21:03] elChisoso : Dario2: Actually I am aiming for some kind of HFT in the end, but still have a fair length to go before reaching there. For now algorithmic trading is what I use for now.
[2023-08-29 12:23:24] Dario2 : elChisoso: HFT is a form of algorithmic trading. I think you meant mean-reversion algorithmic trading. I do some HFT in Forex but don't find it sudeful in crypto as of now. I have applies for the market making/ HFT license in Dubai though
[2023-08-29 12:23:40] Dario2 : it was very expensive and requires interviews and what not
[2023-08-29 12:23:49] Dario2 : might come handy one day
[2023-08-29 12:24:03] elChisoso : Dario2: I mean, i am still to reach the speed of proper HFT, my strategies are still to slow to execute quickly enough to fully take advantage of proper HFT.
[2023-08-29 12:25:16] elChisoso : I do have the budget but not yet willing to risk it fully just yet, getting there slowly, improvements every day.
[2023-08-29 12:26:04] Dario2 : elChisoso: Yeah, I know what you mean. Also, the most important aspect of HFT is not the algo itself, it's the network connection to the broker/exchange etc... For example to perform HFT in NASDAQ you need to get a location as close as possible to their servers
[2023-08-29 12:26:07] elChisoso : There is still a few things to figure out, not sure about you, but I am all alone in my project.
[2023-08-29 12:26:33] Dario2 : renting a small location, let's say 1 sqm for your servers might cost millions usd per year
[2023-08-29 12:26:53] Dario2 : so above the hft code you also need enough capital to rent the location
[2023-08-29 12:27:27] elChisoso : Dario2: Yes, the latency is a big killer. I do try to deploy my bots as close to the exchanges as possible. But I cannot afford just yet to rent a spot next to it.
[2023-08-29 12:27:37] BAM Trading : it does not even make sense to try and compete with the bigboi HFTs
[2023-08-29 12:27:39] BAM Trading : forget about it
[2023-08-29 12:27:40] elChisoso : Or rather I have not asked for quotas yet.
[2023-08-29 12:27:46] BAM Trading : you'll need another stratagy
[2023-08-29 12:28:18] BAM Trading : these guys are literlaly spending 10 mil on a radio tower to just be 0.000005 seconds faster
[2023-08-29 12:28:26] elChisoso : BAM Trading: To me HFT is just about the speed which you get trades executed, first in line, then add some algos on top to make it profitable.
[2023-08-29 12:28:28] Dario2 : elChisoso: it's relatively cheap and easy to get as close as possible to crypto exchanges but forex and stocks market is a totally different game
[2023-08-29 12:29:00] elChisoso : I might be wrong about the termonology here, but I think you get what I mean.
[2023-08-29 12:29:02] BAM Trading : Dario2: all the crytpo exchanges are saturated with hfts
[2023-08-29 12:29:19] BAM Trading : did you know for example bitmex has their own in-house HFTs
[2023-08-29 12:29:25] BAM Trading : you are not going to get up in there
[2023-08-29 12:29:46] BAM Trading : one of the founders of bitmex is literally an expert in HFTs and market manipulation
[2023-08-29 12:29:49] elChisoso : Renting a good server in AWS Ireland gives rather great latency to Bitmex servers.
[2023-08-29 12:30:03] Dario2 : BAM Trading: saturated plus they have full/semi internal trading desks with priority and of course execution priority for special customers and close friends
[2023-08-29 12:30:11] Dario2 : none of this is public info for a good reason
[2023-08-29 12:30:31] BAM Trading : elChisoso: well, I guess what you mean is just really short term, but "first in line", forget about it
[2023-08-29 12:30:47] BAM Trading : Dario2: exactly
[2023-08-29 12:30:51] elChisoso : I won't forget it, i like a challenge.
[2023-08-29 12:31:02] BAM Trading : elChisoso: it'snot a challenge XD
[2023-08-29 12:31:07] BAM Trading : it just not a possibility
[2023-08-29 12:31:20] elChisoso : BAM Trading: To me it is a proper challenge. ;)
[2023-08-29 12:31:25] BAM Trading : these exchanges make it pHYSICALLY impossible for you to frontun them
[2023-08-29 12:31:35] elChisoso : A challenge keeps me driven to make better, never give up.
[2023-08-29 12:32:15] BAM Trading : well the challange you are taking on is like trying to walk to the sun and back in 5 minutes or less
[2023-08-29 12:32:28] BAM Trading : ity's just not a thing
[2023-08-29 12:32:32] elChisoso : BAM Trading: I am aware I can never frontrun the exchange itself, but maybe I can frontrun a lot of other API users out there, that could be good enough.
[2023-08-29 12:32:50] BAM Trading : elChisoso: I guess
[2023-08-29 12:33:01] BAM Trading : well whatever you do , I wish you the best of luck on it mate
[2023-08-29 12:33:13] BAM Trading : let me know when you made it
[2023-08-29 12:33:16] elChisoso : Haha, thanks. Same to you as well.
[2023-08-29 12:33:28] BAM Trading : I woudl be genuinely interested in hearing about it
[2023-08-29 12:33:42] BAM Trading : elChisoso: thx mate :)
[2023-08-29 12:33:55] Bat_soup : well kinda is public
[2023-08-29 12:34:05] Bat_soup : they used to have something called load shedding
[2023-08-29 12:34:28] Bat_soup : a glorified way of saying "if we have too many messages in the pipeline, you re out"
[2023-08-29 12:34:36] BAM Trading : anyways, I don't know about too much about the markets, I don't know much about programming and stuff....
[2023-08-29 12:34:37] Bat_soup : of course the MM desk has side access
[2023-08-29 12:34:47] BAM Trading : ....but I do know I'm gonna get myself another cup of coffe rn
[2023-08-29 12:35:00] Dario2 : elChisoso: well, you can't front run those users with python. that's for sure and coding C++ will take you at least a year or two. Wishing you good luck
[2023-08-29 12:35:09] elChisoso : Bat_soup: Money talks, you can always buy yourself a nice little private lane with enough money.
[2023-08-29 12:35:20] Bat_soup : agreed
[2023-08-29 12:35:31] Bat_soup : in a previous life I worked in HFT
[2023-08-29 12:35:37] elChisoso : Dario2: Appreciated. We will see where the road will take me.
[2023-08-29 12:35:46] Bat_soup : we had a lobbyist, she wasnt called that, but she was
[2023-08-29 12:36:05] Bat_soup : to get better fee deals and better matching engine access (tradfi)
[2023-08-29 12:36:18] John WickMEX : @admin
[2023-08-29 12:36:36] John WickMEX : Is there any way to see historical mark price chart with candles ?
[2023-08-29 12:36:45] John WickMEX : *mark price. not index
[2023-08-29 12:37:26] Bat_soup : for 300 bucks I ll code you a solution, john :-)
[2023-08-29 12:37:47] Dario2 : elChisoso: huge profits hopefully so you can immigrate out of Sweden, near the north pole, as you mentioned and buy a big mansion where the climate is great 👍
[2023-08-29 12:37:49] Bat_soup : joke joookkkeee
[2023-08-29 12:38:13] Dario2 : elChisoso: I have never experienced 6 months of darkness. How does that feel, mate?
[2023-08-29 12:38:32] Dario2 : I should move there some day and experience it.
[2023-08-29 12:38:36] Bat_soup : elChisoso: Is rape cases really bad in Sweden?
[2023-08-29 12:38:41] elChisoso : Dario2: That is actually the plan in the end. The freedom however out here in nowhere is insane.
[2023-08-29 12:39:02] elChisoso : Dario2: You get used to it. A lot of lights is needed, it helps.
[2023-08-29 12:39:18] elChisoso : Bat_soup: I live to far from civilization in order to know.
[2023-08-29 12:40:00] Dario2 : elChisoso: I like the idea of living in or near a forest. I guess that's also very good for health, no?
[2023-08-29 12:40:57] elChisoso : Dario2: If you love privacy and being by yourself together with your partner only. This is the life for you.
[2023-08-29 12:41:17] elChisoso : If you urge to be social and be around others, then this life might be hard.
[2023-08-29 12:41:20] Dario2 : elChisoso: Yeah, I am that kind of a guy
[2023-08-29 12:41:51] Dario2 : the guy who loves privacy and living where there are not so many people
[2023-08-29 12:42:16] Dario2 : with an internal swimming pool and private gym, I wouldn't complain about the 6 months darkness thing
[2023-08-29 12:43:43] elChisoso : Dario2: I got most of those things, all powered by an off grid electric system. I am connected to the grid but rarely pull from it except for a few weeks at winter.
[2023-08-29 12:44:09] Dario2 : elChisoso: Yes, I know. Read your convo with SteveS. months ago
[2023-08-29 12:44:34] elChisoso : Oh, yeah i talk a lot.
[2023-08-29 12:45:41] Dario2 : you are probably an extrovert, I'm an introvert
[2023-08-29 12:45:47] elChisoso : Dario2: My point is, that living like this is almost like living for free, not completely but very cheap and still having the luxary that is above average.
[2023-08-29 12:46:28] Buckztr : Btc rising into usa open again as yesterday Monday..yaay. Yanks buying
[2023-08-29 12:46:51] elChisoso : Dario2: It depends on the situation really I hate people in general, in real life, but in front of the screen it is not the same thing. Talking in writing is not eating the same amount of energy as talking on the phone, voice or meet in real.
[2023-08-29 12:48:31] Dario2 : elChisoso: hehe yeah I hear you bro and think the same. I am developing/constructing a new home in Spain and also planning to install solar panels all over the roof and get off the grid if possible. It's really worth the investment
[2023-08-29 12:49:23] Dario2 : also want to install my own water purification unit, in case a war breaks out
[2023-08-29 12:49:44] Dario2 : getting ready for apocalypse scenarios
[2023-08-29 12:52:58] Dario2 : I mean all it takes for a serious war to break out is firing a rocket at an important russian infrastructure and they will hit back at our infrastructures like they have threatened to do many times
[2023-08-29 12:53:20] Dario2 : and before you know it, you have no tap water or electricity
[2023-08-29 12:55:31] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated long on `BMEXUSD`: Sell 1 Cont @ 0.306 ($0.08)
[2023-08-29 12:55:33] elChisoso : Dario2: That is one of the sweet things here, a deep enough borehole and you have all the clean water you will ever need.
[2023-08-29 12:56:31] Dario2 : elChisoso: didn't know that. that's nice.
[2023-08-29 12:56:41] Dario2 : Do you also have access to snow all the months or only during winter? You can also easily melt ice, no?
[2023-08-29 12:57:02] elChisoso : Also a hole next to it to extract heat from the ground, and cold in the simmer powered by mostly solar is totally worth it.
[2023-08-29 12:57:13] elChisoso : summer*
[2023-08-29 12:57:54] Dario2 : elChisoso: I heard a millionaire did just that to extract heat, convert it to electricity and mine bitcoin with it
[2023-08-29 12:57:56] Schmico666 : 🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀33k
[2023-08-29 12:57:57] elChisoso : Dario2: The swedish summer is lovely, it gets really warm here a few weeks every year. The winters are long, but the summer is lovely.
[2023-08-29 12:58:00] Dario2 : it was very profitable for him
[2023-08-29 12:58:21] Dario2 : elChisoso: wonderful
[2023-08-29 12:58:43] elChisoso : Dario2: Curious, since the heat you get from the ground is very low, you need to compress it in order to extract any heat of value which costs electricity.
[2023-08-29 12:59:29] elChisoso : I think it is like ~1-4 degrees Celsius that comes out of that hole. With a compressor it heats it up to 55 degrees.
[2023-08-29 13:00:21] Dario2 : elChisoso: I see. Don't remember whether he was doing it in Sweden, but is it the same all over the world? I am not very familiar with the details
[2023-08-29 13:01:30] Schmico666 : buy all WLD! Its the future of crypto!!!
[2023-08-29 13:01:34] elChisoso : Dario2: I guess it would have to be some unique conditions for that like living close to some kind of heat source like volcano or hot spring or so. But in general, yeah it is like that. Maybe a few degrees hotter in warmer places because more sun but not much.
[2023-08-29 13:01:46] elChisoso : Schmico666: WLD is going to more zero than bitcoin.
[2023-08-29 13:02:07] Schmico666 : elChisoso: btc is a scam. WLD is godlike
[2023-08-29 13:02:42] elChisoso : Schmico666: WLD is made for shorting, no one wants 1984 style identification.
[2023-08-29 13:03:10] slacker+ : this ^
[2023-08-29 13:03:16] Fuun : so, it still hurts?
[2023-08-29 13:03:33] Fuun : thats cute. :joy:
[2023-08-29 13:03:42] Dario2 : elChisoso: that makes sense. interesting. Also heard another rich guy who bought a large piece of land with river passing through it and installed a hydroelectric power unit to generate electricity for bitcoin mining. Also very profitable.
[2023-08-29 13:04:25] Dario2 : there are no limits to possibilities 😃
[2023-08-29 13:04:27] elChisoso : Dario2: That one is way more believable, not that the other one is not possible, only more a fluke, but that now is a great deal. Mining for free.
[2023-08-29 13:05:15] BAM Trading : when interview @pez
[2023-08-29 13:05:36] BAM Trading : I need to go in a few hours
[2023-08-29 13:05:36] Schmico666 : 1984 is the future @elChisoso
[2023-08-29 13:05:37] elChisoso : Dario2: I would also mine with my spare electricity, but it is only during summers I have to much, so I sell it to the grid, in order to buy it back at the same price when I need it during winter. I might need to expand my production somehow.
[2023-08-29 13:06:07] Dario2 : elChisoso: Yeah, or you could just install many solar panels and mine bitcoin. Watched a guy in Australia or maybe US doing that. He owned a very large land and was expanding his solar panels every few months
[2023-08-29 13:06:08] elChisoso : Schmico666: Sorry to disapoint, but such future is horrible.
[2023-08-29 13:06:43] Dario2 : elChisoso: What type of solar panels do you have? Tesla ones?
[2023-08-29 13:07:14] Schmico666 : elChisoso: ^^
[2023-08-29 13:07:17] elChisoso : Dario2: In Australia they do not have 3 months of complete darkness every year and 3 other months with just a few hours of daylight. I would do the same if I lived down there.
[2023-08-29 13:07:29] Dario2 : I see
[2023-08-29 13:07:51] Dario2 : man I think bluemaster was smart when he decided to enter the solar panel business
[2023-08-29 13:07:53] elChisoso : Dario2: Not really sure, it was a long time ago I installed them, but one panel gives me roughly 300W, I have 50 of them.
[2023-08-29 13:08:06] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated short on `BCHUSD`: Buy 922 Cont @ 193.6 ($4,645.20) - Ultra kill
[2023-08-29 13:08:13] elChisoso : And a battery storage of 250KW.
[2023-08-29 13:08:16] Dario2 : elChisoso: nice
[2023-08-29 13:08:21] Fuun : sad individual.
[2023-08-29 13:08:27] Dario2 : how much did it all cost you?
[2023-08-29 13:08:33] Fuun : maybe next time.
[2023-08-29 13:09:00] elChisoso : I have expanded the batteries separately over the years, but all in all ~45k eur.
[2023-08-29 13:09:20] Dario2 : elChisoso: how long did it take to earn back the investment?
[2023-08-29 13:09:31] Dario2 : I heared tesla ones take 9 years in us on average
[2023-08-29 13:09:57] Dario2 : heard*
[2023-08-29 13:10:10] elChisoso : Dario2: It was calculated to make back in 11 years, still got 7 years to go. But if electricity prices is close to what they were last winter, it will be made back within 3 years from now.
[2023-08-29 13:10:31] Dario2 : that would be excellent
[2023-08-29 13:11:06] elChisoso : Electricity prices was >1€ per KWh for a little time, lol.
[2023-08-29 13:11:24] Dario2 : damn hehe
[2023-08-29 13:12:40] elChisoso : Having things like spa/jacuzzi and stuff running outdoor at winter, you need to be self sufficent or it will cost more than it tastes.
[2023-08-29 13:14:52] Dario2 : elChisoso: yeah, those things are very popular in Sweden and true not very cheap but a profitable trader deserves it. Very relaxing and good for health. I read it reduces the probability of heart attack and what not
[2023-08-29 13:16:08] elChisoso : Dario2: Indeed it does, lowers blood pressure and increases vitality. Also something else that is very popular around here is saunas, for the same reason. Mine is wood powered.
[2023-08-29 13:16:34] Dario2 : magnificent
[2023-08-29 13:17:19] elChisoso : Dario2: ever enjoyed a good sauna bath?
[2023-08-29 13:17:40] elChisoso : It is so refreshing if done correctly.
[2023-08-29 13:17:57] Dario2 : elChisoso: Have a sauna too, but never use it. maybe once in a year when I have guests
[2023-08-29 13:18:58] elChisoso : Dario2: In winter, you go to the sauna, sit there until youre completely heated up, go out roll around in the snow or jump into the lake/pool and then back in to the sauna. It makes you feel 30 years younger.
[2023-08-29 13:20:19] Dario2 : elChisoso: I avoid winters by living in a different place but if I were living somewhere cold hell yeah what you describe is totally the way to go
[2023-08-29 13:25:17] Dario2 : I wish we could decode our DNA and re-engineer it so that we could stay eternally young
[2023-08-29 13:25:35] Dario2 : after the age of 33 everything starts going down
[2023-08-29 13:26:43] Dario2 : and I remember reading a book stating that certain gods were living in upper heavens and they remained at 33 for ever
[2023-08-29 13:27:25] Dario2 : it should be possible in combination with nano tech robots repairing our cells
[2023-08-29 13:27:59] Dario2 : there are some underwater specicies that are capable of living for a thousand years
[2023-08-29 13:28:09] elChisoso : Dario2: Yeah, it might be possible in the future, but unless they also solves the issue with diminishing returns on cell mitosis as well, its just "want to have" sci-fi.
[2023-08-29 13:31:07] Dario2 : elChisoso: getting there sooner than you might think. right now in US, there are billions of dollars getting invested in life-extension companies every year
[2023-08-29 13:32:02] Dario2 : and the investment will also increase every year and I hear about amazing progresses from time to time, so I am not as pessimistic as you
[2023-08-29 13:35:42] elChisoso : Dario2: I read about this amazingness as well, but until a real break through has taken place I dont keep my hopes up. I just might have 15-30 years left anyway. They must work faster. :)
[2023-08-29 13:37:57] Dario2 : Read about the work of professor Aubrey de Gray, he was a computer scientist turned into a life-extension scientist working at a very reputable university. He is trying to get more funds by travelling around and according to him we are just 5-15 years away from achieving this goal. Agree, they must work faster, that's why you have billionaires investing more every day
[2023-08-29 13:38:05] DogeX : :doge: :doge: :doge:
[2023-08-29 13:38:10] Dario2 : :doge:
[2023-08-29 13:40:59] elChisoso : :doge:
[2023-08-29 13:44:27] Kojak : 👀
[2023-08-29 13:44:38] 9figrs : Dario2: there was pakistanis that lived up to 160 years old
[2023-08-29 13:44:54] 9figrs : just from diet
[2023-08-29 13:45:10] 9figrs : too many fat people in 2023
[2023-08-29 13:45:18] 9figrs : all the fatties gonna die soon
[2023-08-29 13:45:36] bearologist : down down down to goblin town
[2023-08-29 13:46:27] bearologist : :doge:
[2023-08-29 13:46:49] Dario2 : 9figrs: didn't know about this specific Pakistani person but I read 400-500 years ago there was someone living for almost 250 year. I would say his/her dna was altered by a cosmic particle originating from a supernova