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<< >> English 中文 Русский 한국어 日本語 Español Français [2023-08-18 08:53:39] Luke Short : jjhiijiji: how is it it's always the FED's fault when i lose money???? [2023-08-18 08:53:51] jjhiijiji : stop reading bitcoin news and start reading news related to global markets, especially US markets, interest rates, fed policy, etc etc [2023-08-18 08:53:51] MrBritcoin : jjhiijiji: for the kids bro its bullish news that [2023-08-18 08:54:51] jjhiijiji : yeah its nice bullish news but that announcement came out before this nuke ;p the approval was given like a couple days ago or smth. reguardless of any good news if major US indeces are crashing no good news will stop btc from crashing with it. [2023-08-18 08:55:04] MrBritcoin : https://cryptodaily.co.uk/2023/08/big-win-for-crypto-as-sec-gives-green-light-to-ether-futures-etfs [2023-08-18 08:55:55] hehe MOON : mmm that funding [2023-08-18 08:56:05] WinstonChurchill : wth 0.1% [2023-08-18 08:56:13] MrBritcoin : hummm yes [2023-08-18 08:56:14] WinstonChurchill : thats like an entire 2$ [2023-08-18 08:56:17] WinstonChurchill : excellent [2023-08-18 08:56:23] MrBritcoin : /position xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: 27,600 USD @ 25184.8568 ``` [2023-08-18 08:56:35] hehe MOON : BUY EVERY WEAK ASS DUMP, EZ [2023-08-18 08:56:37] WinstonChurchill : oh wow actually 6$... [2023-08-18 08:56:39] hehe MOON : :DOGE: [2023-08-18 08:56:40] WinstonChurchill : im rich now [2023-08-18 08:56:44] WinstonChurchill : MrBritcoin: +1000 [2023-08-18 08:56:58] hehe MOON : WinstonChurchill: treat yourself to a cheeseburger [2023-08-18 08:57:25] WinstonChurchill : hehe MOON: I will treat myself a monthly subscription of hehe MOON's saturday night's latex pleasure, sir. [2023-08-18 08:57:38] jjhiijiji : we need to get over 26800 and stay there ;< please arthur.. for me... you know i love you [2023-08-18 08:57:49] WinstonChurchill : jjhiijiji: 4 hourly looking good [2023-08-18 08:58:05] WinstonChurchill : blast through 27200 and its done [2023-08-18 08:58:09] hehe MOON : WinstonChurchill: i have a sale on my bottled farts sir [2023-08-18 08:58:21] Hermite : hehe MOON: would you mind elaborating why you think we should buy all the "weak ass dumbs", there was a dump 30k to 29k, did you buy? What about 29k to 28k? If you did, it clearly tells a lot about your currently position. Maybe you want to buy now? What you are going to say when the price will drop to 24k? [2023-08-18 08:58:26] hehe MOON : My farts are stronger than bearas dumps [2023-08-18 08:58:27] Hermite : hehe MOON: I would agree with you if you would trade spot, but the fact that you always here indicate that you are a leverage trader (if you actually trade at all, never seen a single trade from you). Such moves are designed to kill leverage traders, doesn't matter what leverage you have, it will get you. [2023-08-18 08:58:33] hehe MOON : **fact** [2023-08-18 08:58:35] WinstonChurchill : hehe MOON: WHAT REALLY? I mean.. How disgusting! _orders 9 bottles_ [2023-08-18 08:58:49] WinstonChurchill : :pepeb: [2023-08-18 08:59:05] lelskates : theres the dildo [2023-08-18 08:59:13] lelskates : bears u love the cawk [2023-08-18 08:59:17] WinstonChurchill : hehe MOON: elaborate big fat noob [2023-08-18 08:59:26] hehe MOON : Hermite: you think its a strong dump from 28k to 24k? [2023-08-18 08:59:39] jjhiijiji : you think its not? [2023-08-18 08:59:45] WinstonChurchill : :Arthur: [2023-08-18 08:59:48] hehe MOON : Hermite: compare it to 15k to 32k **kek** [2023-08-18 08:59:48] Hermite : hehe MOON: can you please elaborate on this? [2023-08-18 09:00:00] hehe MOON : Hermite: ^^ [2023-08-18 09:00:18] MrBritcoin : https://prnt.sc/NW0zsZUw6NYN [2023-08-18 09:00:18] hehe MOON : *drops mic* [2023-08-18 09:00:27] jjhiijiji : considering the dump happened in 5 minutes id say it was a fckin devastating dump. i think it gave me ptsd [2023-08-18 09:01:12] Hermite : hehe MOON: if you don't trade and just hanging out here because there is nothing else for you to do, most of us are leverage traders here. So please explain to me how come buying at 30k, would be make me survive 6k dump so I can by more? @jjhiijiji [2023-08-18 09:01:54] MrBritcoin : jjhiijiji: the next move will put you in a mental home then [2023-08-18 09:01:54] jjhiijiji : well if ur only using 2x 3x leverage then you would survive [2023-08-18 09:02:24] Hermite : jjhiijiji: if you use 3x leverage, you would be gone if the price dives under 20l [2023-08-18 09:02:29] hehe MOON : Hermite: if you cant handle a 4k dump then you should move to testnet like StevenClown [2023-08-18 09:02:30] jjhiijiji : yeah u said 6k dump [2023-08-18 09:02:33] jjhiijiji : u meant 6k PRICE? [2023-08-18 09:02:36] Hermite : jjhiijiji: and this is not unlikely [2023-08-18 09:02:47] jjhiijiji : in that case only 1x survives ;p [2023-08-18 09:02:58] jjhiijiji : i think 6k is unlikely [2023-08-18 09:03:05] Hermite : jjhiijiji: then trade spot [2023-08-18 09:03:17] Hermite : jjhiijiji: there is not need to be here, in fact it less safe [2023-08-18 09:03:33] WinstonChurchill : bla bla bla [2023-08-18 09:03:38] hehe MOON : Remember the days of 10k moves when :arthur: was here [2023-08-18 09:03:38] WinstonChurchill : NEXT TARGET -> 9600$ [2023-08-18 09:03:42] hehe MOON : Good times [2023-08-18 09:03:45] Hermite : hehe MOON: sure, let's do it setp by step, what leverage would you trade [2023-08-18 09:04:05] hehe MOON : Hermite: 100x long full account no stop loss, EZ [2023-08-18 09:04:13] hehe MOON : Weak ass bearas [2023-08-18 09:04:21] hehe MOON : :doge: [2023-08-18 09:04:22] Hermite : hehe MOON: this statement contradics what you have just said above [2023-08-18 09:04:42] Hermite : hehe MOON: if you buy 100x, and the price dumps just 300 dollah, you are gone [2023-08-18 09:04:55] Hermite : hehe MOON: how come you recommed buying it [2023-08-18 09:05:22] Hermite : hehe MOON: I think you are a shitty person, buy know that his would REKT other traders, still recommeding it [2023-08-18 09:05:29] hehe MOON : Hermite: thats why you hedge sir and buy every weak ass dump [2023-08-18 09:05:41] Hermite : hehe MOON: you cannot hedge 100x [2023-08-18 09:05:50] Hermite : hehe MOON: tell the scenario how you would do that [2023-08-18 09:06:39] MrBritcoin : Hermite: 10x long 100x short on cross [2023-08-18 09:06:48] MrBritcoin : 100xlong [2023-08-18 09:07:02] Hermite : MrBritcoin: if you hold 100x, you have no margine to hedge [2023-08-18 09:07:07] Hermite : MrBritcoin: plesae think [2023-08-18 09:07:09] hehe MOON : Hermite: with profit targets of course [2023-08-18 09:07:20] jjhiijiji : unless ur using 2 accounts ;p [2023-08-18 09:07:42] Hermite : jjhiijiji: uless you have have another account, unless you hace more money etc etc [2023-08-18 09:07:52] MrBritcoin : jjhiijiji: one futures one perpetual [2023-08-18 09:07:57] Hermite : jjhiijiji: of course, there are nuances [2023-08-18 09:07:57] jjhiijiji : man i dont think he was serious when he said 100x ur full account no stop [2023-08-18 09:08:02] jjhiijiji : no point arguing with him [2023-08-18 09:08:03] MrBritcoin : same account [2023-08-18 09:08:10] Hermite : MrBritcoin: you cannot do that, if you trade 100x [2023-08-18 09:08:18] MrBritcoin : try it for your self [2023-08-18 09:08:37] Hermite : MrBritcoin: plus have you tried opening a poisitong as a hedge on non perpetual futures ? [2023-08-18 09:08:37] hehe MOON : jjhiijiji: sir, we are all serious professional traders here sir . Except that StevenClown guy [2023-08-18 09:08:47] hehe MOON : :arthur: [2023-08-18 09:08:50] MrBritcoin : Hermite: try it as see where liq is sir [2023-08-18 09:08:52] Hermite : MrBritcoin: try it out first [2023-08-18 09:09:08] Hermite : MrBritcoin: if you will seen that it is not ez as you might think in theory [2023-08-18 09:09:25] Hermite : MrBritcoin: the spread is huge, plus no liqudity [2023-08-18 09:09:44] Hermite : MrBritcoin: @hehe MOON I am not sure what you guys are taling about [2023-08-18 09:09:58] Hermite : MrBritcoin: @hehe MOON unless you want other traders here to get REKT [2023-08-18 09:10:11] Hermite : MrBritcoin: @hehe MOON this is really sad [2023-08-18 09:10:35] jjhiijiji : i dont think anyone really hedges 100x. if anything there are people with low leverage and using options/futures to hedge. i doubt anyone does 100x longs and hedge with 100x shorts [2023-08-18 09:10:45] hehe MOON : Hermite: please be aware, you are speaking with the third best trader on the internet sir, after sen prof. and Werner [2023-08-18 09:10:52] Hermite : jjhiijiji: you cannot, period. [2023-08-18 09:11:08] jjhiijiji : but i think a lot of this convo was a joke anyway not a real arguement [2023-08-18 09:11:12] jjhiijiji : they are just trolling on trollbox [2023-08-18 09:11:15] Hermite : hehe MOON: show your track record if you are the best [2023-08-18 09:11:25] jjhiijiji : 100x long ur whole account no stop? that s a trollbox comment dont take it seriously [2023-08-18 09:11:31] Hermite : hehe MOON: because right now your intention is to get everyone REKT [2023-08-18 09:11:31] hehe MOON : jjhiijiji: 🚬:me: [2023-08-18 09:11:58] jjhiijiji : if anyone actually listens to a guy on trollbox telling them to 100x long their whole account then whos fault it is, hehe MOONs fault or the guy who initiated the trade? [2023-08-18 09:12:24] Hermite : jjhiijiji: I just see that this guy @hehe MOON is a terrible person, that's all I can say. [2023-08-18 09:12:24] DogeX : Yo yo :doge: [2023-08-18 09:12:29] MrBritcoin : Hermite: you need to try it do it on xrp or something cheep or test net if thats still going on [2023-08-18 09:12:42] hehe MOON : DogeX: 🦶:doge: [2023-08-18 09:13:01] DogeX : hehe MOON: 💚😍:doge: [2023-08-18 09:13:16] Fuun : u still look depressed, kids. [2023-08-18 09:13:27] Fuun : is something wrong in your dead chat? [2023-08-18 09:13:39] jjhiijiji : how many fckin fuuns am i gonna have to mute before it goes away????? [2023-08-18 09:13:45] Fuun : u still dont have enough nicknames. :joy: [2023-08-18 09:13:57] Hermite : MrBritcoin: I see that you speak form a theoretical perspective, sure In theory it all sound good. [2023-08-18 09:14:11] 9figrs : where is winston [2023-08-18 09:14:21] Fuun : but. [2023-08-18 09:14:23] Dr.LongBear : Are mooning or what ? [2023-08-18 09:14:27] Fuun : u are still tryin it. [2023-08-18 09:14:29] Dr.LongBear : :doge: [2023-08-18 09:14:33] Fuun : thats cute. [2023-08-18 09:14:38] 9figrs : koreans are longing [2023-08-18 09:14:41] 9figrs : still more downside to go [2023-08-18 09:15:05] jjhiijiji : this must be like the 5th Fuun ive muted. either there is something wrong with the mute function or she has like a dozen accounts or smth [2023-08-18 09:15:24] Fuun : just try it smarter. [2023-08-18 09:15:33] MrBritcoin : Hermite: yes they basicaly cancel each other out [2023-08-18 09:15:35] Fuun : not the hard way. [2023-08-18 09:15:42] Hermite : 9figrs: you can see in real time how he traded the dump https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WK12nDufDyU [2023-08-18 09:16:04] Dr.LongBear : CATAPULTAPUMPA ! [2023-08-18 09:16:17] Hermite : MrBritcoin: that is the purpose of hedging mate.. that's how it supposed to work. [2023-08-18 09:16:29] 9figrs : Hermite: i dont look too much into these guys, but its always good to check every now and then [2023-08-18 09:16:44] MrBritcoin : Hermite: yea of cores [2023-08-18 09:17:06] Hermite : MrBritcoin: in practice however it is not as easy, please give it a try... [2023-08-18 09:18:14] DogeX : MrBritcoin: yo yo :doge: [2023-08-18 09:18:19] jjhiijiji : hedging actually is widely used with high capital traders. just not on 100x [2023-08-18 09:18:23] DogeX : Hermite: :doge: [2023-08-18 09:18:26] Dr.LongBear : ** ALL THE WAY UP ** [2023-08-18 09:18:31] DogeX : Dr.LongBear: :doge: [2023-08-18 09:18:41] Dr.LongBear : DogeX: :doge::doge::doge: [2023-08-18 09:18:48] Hermite : DogeX: @Dr.LongBear have you guys survived the drump? [2023-08-18 09:19:01] DogeX : Hermite: no 😭 [2023-08-18 09:19:07] jjhiijiji : i didnt. im dead. [2023-08-18 09:19:11] Dr.LongBear : jjhiijiji: @Hermite @9figrs @hehe MOON @WinstonChurchill :catjam::doge::catjam::doge::catjam::doge: [2023-08-18 09:19:17] jjhiijiji : longbeeeear [2023-08-18 09:19:24] DogeX : jjhiijiji: me to 😭 [2023-08-18 09:19:28] Hermite : DogeX: @jjhiijiji same here [2023-08-18 09:19:31] jjhiijiji : here to see my last moments before i get liqd? [2023-08-18 09:19:44] Dr.LongBear : Hermite: I REKT my pos of 0.0002 XBT then I shorted right before that terrible 5 min candle and got it back ! [2023-08-18 09:19:52] Dr.LongBear : That was hell of a ride [2023-08-18 09:19:58] Hermite : DogeX: you don't show your trades anymore ? 😁 [2023-08-18 09:20:01] WinstonChurchill : Dr.LongBear: :ARthur: [2023-08-18 09:20:03] WinstonChurchill : Congrats, sir. [2023-08-18 09:20:10] jjhiijiji : Hermite: /pnl xbtusd [2023-08-18 09:20:13] Dr.LongBear : tyy [2023-08-18 09:20:14] jjhiijiji : /pnl xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: -0.0006 XBT RPNL, -0.0515 XBT UPNL ``` [2023-08-18 09:20:16] jjhiijiji : weeeeee [2023-08-18 09:20:16] Hermite : Dr.LongBear: 😀 congrads [2023-08-18 09:20:18] MrBritcoin : Hermite: right use cross 100 contracts long 100 short futures you add to the loosing trade wich keeps you close to market price whilst your other is making a profit an at some point there both be in gains [2023-08-18 09:20:21] WinstonChurchill : jjhiijiji: damn [2023-08-18 09:20:29] WinstonChurchill : jjhiijiji: What is the entry [2023-08-18 09:20:32] Dr.LongBear : Are guild pos back ? I saw a msg from Pez in the night [2023-08-18 09:20:38] jjhiijiji : a retarded one :) [2023-08-18 09:20:42] Hermite : MrBritcoin: yes, have to tried actually doing it? [2023-08-18 09:20:46] jjhiijiji : 29.2k @WinstonChurchill [2023-08-18 09:20:54] jjhiijiji : WinstonChurchill: im proper fooked innit [2023-08-18 09:20:59] Hermite : jjhiijiji: oh wow [2023-08-18 09:21:14] jjhiijiji : its fine im adding more margin later today [2023-08-18 09:21:16] Dr.LongBear : jjhiijiji: long or short ? [2023-08-18 09:21:18] WinstonChurchill : jjhiijiji: lmao that 292 resistance [2023-08-18 09:21:20] MrBritcoin : Hermite: yes i have [2023-08-18 09:21:22] jjhiijiji : will lower my liq to under 20k's [2023-08-18 09:21:30] WinstonChurchill : jjhiijiji: I mean if it broke we would be sitting at 38k probably [2023-08-18 09:21:35] DogeX : Hermite: realy I re did it somone turnd it off [2023-08-18 09:21:39] WinstonChurchill : tough times [2023-08-18 09:21:49] jjhiijiji : WinstonChurchill: i thought we would go to 32k before le damp. i was wrong [2023-08-18 09:21:51] jjhiijiji : ;D [2023-08-18 09:21:58] Dr.LongBear : dammit [2023-08-18 09:21:59] DogeX : WinstonChurchill: :doge: :doge: :doge: [2023-08-18 09:22:02] Hermite : MrBritcoin: how much you paied for the hedge ? [2023-08-18 09:22:05] jjhiijiji : its fine, no biggie. ill survive [2023-08-18 09:22:06] WinstonChurchill : jjhiijiji: you survived the 24k dump though [2023-08-18 09:22:14] WinstonChurchill : you must be <5x lev then [2023-08-18 09:22:21] jjhiijiji : yeah ofcourse [2023-08-18 09:22:28] WinstonChurchill : DogeX: :doge: :Doge: :Doge: :Doge: :Doge: :doge: :doge: :Doge: :doge [2023-08-18 09:22:30] jjhiijiji : im gonna add more today so i can be at least at 2.5x [2023-08-18 09:22:36] jjhiijiji : if needed ill add more and go down to 2x [2023-08-18 09:22:48] Hermite : DogeX: oh you are right! [2023-08-18 09:23:04] jjhiijiji : and hopefully by next year ill be back in the green ;p [2023-08-18 09:23:53] jjhiijiji : im just building up a very long term long slowly [2023-08-18 09:23:55] Dr.LongBear : Hermite: You can turn stream pos again if u want [2023-08-18 09:24:07] Dr.LongBear : I all have been disabled I only see DogeX [2023-08-18 09:24:13] Dr.LongBear : it* [2023-08-18 09:24:30] Hermite : Dr.LongBear: Let me turn it on, but I need to deposit first 😜 [2023-08-18 09:24:40] 9figrs : WinstonChurchill: are you longing or shorting? [2023-08-18 09:24:43] MrBritcoin : Hermite: well you cant lock it down really its all about when you close if you got deep pockests you just keep adding to the loosing trade an when market puts both in profit you close [2023-08-18 09:24:45] WinstonChurchill : /position xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: 5,500 USD @ 25859.5 ``` [2023-08-18 09:24:48] MrBritcoin : both [2023-08-18 09:24:53] Dr.LongBear : Hehe no pb, don't feel any obligation of doing so :) [2023-08-18 09:24:56] Dr.LongBear : We have all the time [2023-08-18 09:25:02] 9figrs : Hermite: also hopefully that korean guy stays in his long lol his 23700 liq will be taken [2023-08-18 09:25:05] petyx : situation is ultra bearish 21k is granted [2023-08-18 09:25:28] 9figrs : Hermite: pretty sure that korean guy leaves his stream on over the weekend so likely he stays in that trade = we going lower [2023-08-18 09:25:33] Dr.LongBear : I see only bullish [2023-08-18 09:25:35] 9figrs : WinstonChurchill: and yeah thanks mate we are going lower [2023-08-18 09:25:40] WinstonChurchill : 9figrs: +1000 [2023-08-18 09:25:43] Dr.LongBear : Too many green cancles [2023-08-18 09:25:43] 9figrs : Dr.LongBear: bro bullish on air tokens? [2023-08-18 09:25:44] WinstonChurchill : ALLIN 100x SHORT [2023-08-18 09:25:47] MrBritcoin : Hermite: you just got to watch futures really as you pointed out you need the spread to be tight [2023-08-18 09:25:55] jjhiijiji : if major US indices dont recover at least a little today after days and days of fckin dumping its gonna be hell [2023-08-18 09:25:57] 9figrs : imagine being bullish on this geek economy toy bitcoin [2023-08-18 09:26:05] 9figrs : Hey guys we are buying air worth 20k USD [2023-08-18 09:26:09] 9figrs : with a bitcoin logo over it [2023-08-18 09:26:10] Dr.LongBear : Well we survived that crazy dump, people want to buy it @9figrs [2023-08-18 09:26:18] 9figrs : okay lets see [2023-08-18 09:26:22] Dr.LongBear : lol at the 5 min [2023-08-18 09:26:25] Dr.LongBear : look* [2023-08-18 09:26:41] Dr.LongBear : It seems like a corn to me, could be wrong of course [2023-08-18 09:26:59] jjhiijiji : it seems like corn that was shoved insides a bulls ass with blood all over it [2023-08-18 09:27:05] Dr.LongBear : lol [2023-08-18 09:27:10] Dr.LongBear : true [2023-08-18 09:27:19] MrBritcoin : 9figrs: imagen not being bullish on a standard pull back on a cup an handle [2023-08-18 09:27:20] lazyzen : 9figrs: we are not buying air. We are buing bits that burn electricity [2023-08-18 09:27:37] MrBritcoin : https://www.tradingview.com/x/XpDBO953/ [2023-08-18 09:27:41] jjhiijiji : bitcoin macro is definitely bullish despite these dumps [2023-08-18 09:27:49] WinstonChurchill : MrBritcoin: rekt [2023-08-18 09:27:53] jjhiijiji : long term bullish, short term bearish [2023-08-18 09:28:02] bearmaster : REKT [2023-08-18 09:28:25] Hermite : MrBritcoin: I doubt that you tried hedging this way, but okay cannot claim anything. What I can say is due to (a) market fees, (b) low liquidity, (c) and massive spread when the price moves fast, this type of hedging will costy a lot.. moreover if you trade wtih high leverage will make it pretty much worse than just closing your original position. I don't want to argue, if it works for you, God bless you. [2023-08-18 09:28:29] Dr.LongBear : If weekly close above 275 that was a non-event https://www.tradingview.com/x/sShtxFmM/ [2023-08-18 09:28:32] 9figrs : MrBritcoin: imagine trading cup and handles [2023-08-18 09:28:45] MrBritcoin : as long as this week closes at this fib level we mooning [2023-08-18 09:29:00] jjhiijiji : Dr.LongBear: that would be amazing ;< im really not feeling it though [2023-08-18 09:29:24] petyx : people still ultra cowish, we need another flush to 19k [2023-08-18 09:29:33] MrBritcoin : Hermite: m8 iv tried evey nook an cranny of this market trust me [2023-08-18 09:29:41] jjhiijiji : if people are still ultra cowish how the hell is the funding -0.1% [2023-08-18 09:29:50] jjhiijiji : i think at this point most people are short [2023-08-18 09:29:55] Hermite : 9figrs: he longed at around 25k, but then closed it quickly, the longed again. I think he trades 24/7 :) [2023-08-18 09:29:55] Dr.LongBear : jjhiijiji: dammit, then we will not go above 30K this year [2023-08-18 09:29:56] jjhiijiji : which is why they need to get liqd [2023-08-18 09:29:58] Dr.LongBear : So many shorters [2023-08-18 09:30:02] bearmaster : Hermite: Ahahahaha just like that 2.9M short [2023-08-18 09:30:08] petyx : jjhiijiji: its not last longer then one funding cycle [2023-08-18 09:30:14] bearmaster : Could have made an easy 500k, but it was a hedge :kek: [2023-08-18 09:30:17] MrBritcoin : 9figrs: well that pull back confirmed bull momo [2023-08-18 09:30:20] bearmaster : Classic. [2023-08-18 09:30:23] jjhiijiji : Dr.LongBear: many shorters is good. it gives more fuel for the pamp [2023-08-18 09:30:34] jjhiijiji : also gives arthur and his buddies to pump and liq everyone [2023-08-18 09:30:34] WinstonChurchill : jjhiijiji: most people are wrong, so we are going up [2023-08-18 09:30:40] MrBritcoin : its almost clarification of cup an handle [2023-08-18 09:30:47] bearmaster : 23K first, kids. [2023-08-18 09:30:49] MrBritcoin : well it is [2023-08-18 09:30:49] jjhiijiji : WinstonChurchill: most times, most people lose. its just facts [2023-08-18 09:31:05] 9figrs : bearmaster: 22300 [2023-08-18 09:31:13] jjhiijiji : WinstonChurchill: signing up to any trading site even tells you that 70 - 80% people lose their money lol [2023-08-18 09:31:17] New Age : /pnl xbtusd come with me, fly you out to Greece. We can shop at Gucci, shop at Louie V ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: 3.4023 XBT RPNL, -0.6622 XBT UPNL ``` [2023-08-18 09:31:19] bearmaster : 23200>22300 [2023-08-18 09:31:29] WinstonChurchill : jjhiijiji: kek trading sites [2023-08-18 09:31:46] 9figrs : the most people lose or most people are wrong is not a good idea to base your trades lol [2023-08-18 09:31:52] 9figrs : while it may be true, trade the market properly [2023-08-18 09:31:58] MrBritcoin : New Age: i only shop at pound land sorry [2023-08-18 09:32:00] MrBritcoin : lol [2023-08-18 09:32:03] jjhiijiji : WinstonChurchill: the odds are worse than playing red black at a roulette table lol [2023-08-18 09:32:24] hehe MOON : Anyone seen Bluemaster? [2023-08-18 09:32:27] bearmaster : There's more edge to be had here. [2023-08-18 09:32:30] hehe MOON : :pepe: [2023-08-18 09:32:30] Hermite : bearmaster: I agree that we are going to see a lower, at least 24k. [2023-08-18 09:32:42] MrBritcoin : hehe MOON: yea he was ere last night [2023-08-18 09:32:44] WinstonChurchill : the only real trading course to turn you into a pro is to lose atleast 10.000$ [2023-08-18 09:32:45] bearmaster : hehe MOON: Yes he's alive but down. [2023-08-18 09:32:59] 9figrs : 23800 is the obvious sweep where retail will probably try step in and hold the line once again then it will push lower [2023-08-18 09:33:08] MrBritcoin : going head to head with steves as normal [2023-08-18 09:33:09] Dr.LongBear : WinstonChurchill: I am at 7000$ loss and I start to be good [2023-08-18 09:33:16] jjhiijiji : retail holding the line? thats funny [2023-08-18 09:33:16] Dr.LongBear : It's only up now [2023-08-18 09:33:17] WinstonChurchill : Dr.LongBear: yeah 3k more to go [2023-08-18 09:33:20] Dr.LongBear : I mean my wallet [2023-08-18 09:33:20] jjhiijiji : retail can never hold any line [2023-08-18 09:33:22] WinstonChurchill : then you will be profitable [2023-08-18 09:33:36] bearmaster : WinstonChurchill: I lost well over 200K$ and I only just made my first 50$ profit! [2023-08-18 09:33:36] hehe MOON : Bluemaster is an Olympic swimmer, he will survive [2023-08-18 09:33:39] 9figrs : WinstonChurchill: lol you gotta lose more than 10k to become good at trading [2023-08-18 09:33:42] Dr.LongBear : If we go 120K I'll be good [2023-08-18 09:33:48] Dr.LongBear : Maybe I'll save those extra 3000 [2023-08-18 09:34:00] WinstonChurchill : 9figrs: depends on the iq [2023-08-18 09:34:17] bearmaster : Dr.LongBear: 120k should be retiring worthy [2023-08-18 09:34:22] MrBritcoin : hehe MOON: steves started on me but i told him to button it or we be doing a live elon an zuckerb fight in a ring [2023-08-18 09:34:27] Dr.LongBear : bearmaster: 120K is programmed [2023-08-18 09:34:28] MrBritcoin : ding ding [2023-08-18 09:34:33] Dr.LongBear : it's how the blockchain work [2023-08-18 09:34:36] jjhiijiji : i think it depends on a lot more than IQ. self control and planning are arguably more important with trading ;p [2023-08-18 09:35:10] WinstonChurchill : jjhiijiji: yes and a high iq allows you to get a grasp of that quicker [2023-08-18 09:35:21] jjhiijiji : WinstonChurchill: ;) [2023-08-18 09:35:22] Hermite : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pXOGC-K5c8 [2023-08-18 09:35:24] bearmaster : jjhiijiji: Like not always being in the market [2023-08-18 09:35:33] bearmaster : It is underestimated to just watch, feel the price. [2023-08-18 09:35:34] 9figrs : most traders would have a similar path to success, its about repitition [2023-08-18 09:35:36] bearmaster : Smell the price. [2023-08-18 09:35:40] bearmaster : **wiff wiff** [2023-08-18 09:35:42] 9figrs : and who can stick it out the longest [2023-08-18 09:35:51] 9figrs : the guys that quit will never know the full potential [2023-08-18 09:35:56] DogeX : bearmaster: 😁 [2023-08-18 09:36:09] jjhiijiji : bearmaster: You can feel it. Listen, Bubbs, hear that? The sounds of the whispering winds of shit. [2023-08-18 09:36:18] MrBritcoin : jjhiijiji: trouble is people want money fast trading should be more as a pension in time an keep adding long hold day trading is different all together [2023-08-18 09:36:33] BigBadShort : DogeX: I am going to make 1 million dollars from 50 dollars until new year [2023-08-18 09:36:35] Hermite : 9figrs: he longed at 650 and is already at 600k loss, and I'm quite confident we are going down, hope he survives [2023-08-18 09:36:36] jjhiijiji : MrBritcoin: ye wanting to get rich quick is a big big common mistake [2023-08-18 09:36:43] jjhiijiji : MrBritcoin: one ive made many times ;) [2023-08-18 09:36:49] BigBadShort : 3 month to go :) [2023-08-18 09:37:17] 9figrs : Hermite: his liq 23700? guess we hit that at some point [2023-08-18 09:37:20] DogeX : BigBadShort: 😍:doge: [2023-08-18 09:37:31] BigBadShort : DogeX: trading non stop [2023-08-18 09:37:33] MrBritcoin : jjhiijiji: we all have got rekt any trader that says they havent is a liar [2023-08-18 09:37:37] Hermite : 9figrs: 😁 [2023-08-18 09:37:42] Dr.LongBear : BigBadShort: We started same ! 50 bucks left on january [2023-08-18 09:37:51] 9figrs : Hermite: his liq is literally the perfect price for the sweep [2023-08-18 09:37:53] Dr.LongBear : Almost x4 if I count my opnened position [2023-08-18 09:38:02] 9figrs : like his liquidation might quite literally be the local bottom [2023-08-18 09:38:07] DogeX : :doge: :doge: :doge: :doge: :doge: :doge: :doge: :doge: :doge: :doge: :doge: :doge: [2023-08-18 09:38:13] MrBritcoin : jjhiijiji: even steves got rekt 2016 he said for 43 btc i think he said it was [2023-08-18 09:38:18] DogeX : :doge: :doge: :doge: :doge: :doge: :doge: :doge: :doge: [2023-08-18 09:38:26] BigBadShort : Dr.LongBear: :doge: [2023-08-18 09:38:26] DogeX : :doge: :doge: :doge: :doge: :doge: :doge: :doge: :doge: [2023-08-18 09:38:26] jjhiijiji : MrBritcoin: dont listen to a word that guy tells you [2023-08-18 09:38:34] BigBadShort : DogeX: :doge: [2023-08-18 09:38:34] hehe MOON : MrBritcoin: StevenClown was probably excited he made profit on testnet sir [2023-08-18 09:38:36] bearmaster : 43 sats ye [2023-08-18 09:38:38] BigBadShort : WORMS! POWER! [2023-08-18 09:38:41] Dr.LongBear : BigBadShort: Activate streaming position if u want buddy, it's back ! [2023-08-18 09:38:52] DogeX : :doge: :doge: :doge: :doge: :doge: :doge: :doge: :doge: [2023-08-18 09:38:53] Dr.LongBear : Lol they deactivated for the dump or what [2023-08-18 09:39:02] Dr.LongBear : Maybe Bitmex was knowing everything in advance [2023-08-18 09:39:11] BigBadShort : Dr.LongBear: SCAMERS! [2023-08-18 09:39:16] MrBritcoin : jjhiijiji: there is some things he says thats true an others that a lie [2023-08-18 09:39:37] MrBritcoin : hehe MOON: 😏 [2023-08-18 09:39:52] hehe MOON : 😏 [2023-08-18 09:40:57] jjhiijiji : i used to spend about 3 bitcoins a month when i was in thailand ordering weed from silkroad back when it was 200 - 400 dollars per btc [2023-08-18 09:41:05] jjhiijiji : 2013 [2023-08-18 09:41:15] jjhiijiji : 2012 - 2013 [2023-08-18 09:41:38] Dr.LongBear : jjhiijiji: now you can smoke weed legally ! [2023-08-18 09:41:50] jjhiijiji : yeah... i left and a few years later its legalized ;/ [2023-08-18 09:42:58] jjhiijiji : my buddies are still there enjoying it i left when my first child was born though. how i miss it ;< [2023-08-18 09:42:58] BigBadShort : jjhiijiji: in thailand is it legal? [2023-08-18 09:43:06] jjhiijiji : BigBadShort: yes it was legalized past couple years [2023-08-18 09:43:10] Dr.LongBear : BigBadShort: it is [2023-08-18 09:43:15] jjhiijiji : BigBadShort: now its fully legal, u can go into a shop and just buy it [2023-08-18 09:43:27] jjhiijiji : BigBadShort: back when i was there ti was super illegal. like very strict [2023-08-18 09:43:41] BigBadShort : jjhiijiji: well probably people who spent 20 years in prison there feel not good after that law ;) [2023-08-18 09:43:52] jjhiijiji : yeah... and a lot of people did go to prison for that [2023-08-18 09:44:04] Dr.LongBear : I heard they gave their weed backs x) !! [2023-08-18 09:44:11] jjhiijiji : most often the cops would stop tourists and ask you to pay a few thousand Thai Baht so you dont go prison [2023-08-18 09:44:12] Dr.LongBear : When they released them [2023-08-18 09:44:19] petyx : dump not even started [2023-08-18 09:44:31] jjhiijiji : it was mostly dealers that went prison [2023-08-18 09:44:40] petyx : short every low time frame bounce [2023-08-18 09:44:41] jjhiijiji : now u can grow legally. my buddy has a huge growhouse in phuket [2023-08-18 09:44:43] BigBadShort : jjhiijiji: can you imagine, you got arrested in 2000 iin Thailand and receive 20 years inprisonment, and then in 2021 you released and the law changed [2023-08-18 09:44:57] BigBadShort : Interesting feeling [2023-08-18 09:45:07] jjhiijiji : i would feel like killing someone :) @BigBadShort [2023-08-18 09:45:24] BigBadShort : jjhiijiji: for sure [2023-08-18 09:45:46] jjhiijiji : there is 1 girl i know she was living on koh samui same island as me [2023-08-18 09:45:58] jjhiijiji : her boyfriend was a dealer, he would ship the packages to her shop and she wouldnt know what it was [2023-08-18 09:46:23] jjhiijiji : she got caught... hes abroad safe. she got a sentence for over 20 years now [2023-08-18 09:46:29] Sukovsky : great guy [2023-08-18 09:46:41] jjhiijiji : sweet young girl... barely over 20 years old [2023-08-18 09:46:44] Luke Short : Sukovsky: yes that's me. whats up [2023-08-18 09:46:48] jjhiijiji : her life destroyed ;/ [2023-08-18 09:47:21] WinstonChurchill : lol [2023-08-18 09:47:27] BigBadShort : Sukovsky: hi buddy! what is your short nickname? [2023-08-18 09:48:13] BigBadShort : Sukovsky: like Suko, Suka, or Suk, have you got one? [2023-08-18 09:51:26] Sukovsky : no why [2023-08-18 09:54:04] GoldFish79 : 🐻💋❤️🔥 [2023-08-18 09:54:26] Dr.LongBear : GoldFish79: 🐸<🐻<🐮<🦈<🐋<🐳 [2023-08-18 09:54:29] DogeX : GoldFish79: hey :doge: [2023-08-18 09:55:47] GoldFish79 : Lunch break nearly over see you after 1800 bst for a proper piss taking kekekekekememe [2023-08-18 09:59:19] bluemaster : https://ac.com.au/upload/wise.jpg [2023-08-18 10:01:10] Hermite : bluemaster: I'd say we going to retest 24k [2023-08-18 10:02:33] WinstonChurchill : Hermite: Definitely not [2023-08-18 10:02:52] DogeX : bluemaster: :doge: :doge: :doge: [2023-08-18 10:03:19] Hermite : WinstonChurchill: why not? I can give you my argument why yes. [2023-08-18 10:03:20] MrBritcoin : GoldFish79: 😏 [2023-08-18 10:03:23] bluemaster : Hermite: that will be nice ,money and risk management is more important from entry and levels .... [2023-08-18 10:03:29] bluemaster : /position xbteur ``` :bitmex: XBTEUR: 179,200 EUR @ 27061.8417 ``` [2023-08-18 10:03:32] WinstonChurchill : Hermite: your argument is based on theory [2023-08-18 10:03:33] bluemaster : /position xbtz23 ``` :bitmex: XBTZ23: 183,400 USD @ 29911.7305 ``` [2023-08-18 10:03:36] bluemaster : /position xbtu23 ``` :bitmex: XBTU23: 195,200 USD @ 29505.9233 ``` [2023-08-18 10:03:39] WinstonChurchill : trading is 99% psychology [2023-08-18 10:03:44] WinstonChurchill : so its invalid [2023-08-18 10:03:52] bluemaster : will be nice at 10k too [2023-08-18 10:03:55] WinstonChurchill : its all about money flow [2023-08-18 10:04:08] Hermite : WinstonChurchill: sure, let's just wait then [2023-08-18 10:04:43] Hermite : bluemaster: I agree, and not debating this. [2023-08-18 10:05:02] WinstonChurchill : if it goes to 10k im going to sell my mother [2023-08-18 10:05:03] WinstonChurchill : and buy btc [2023-08-18 10:05:46] bluemaster : WinstonChurchill: no one knows where we going ,my opinion 36k next becouse no one expect that [2023-08-18 10:05:49] DogeX : WinstonChurchill: 😁😱 [2023-08-18 10:05:51] Hermite : WinstonChurchill: I would be buying too, but it would be new positions. [2023-08-18 10:06:11] WinstonChurchill : bluemaster: if 38k then 46k hehe [2023-08-18 10:06:19] DogeX : WinstonChurchill: u can’t do that 😂 [2023-08-18 10:06:26] WinstonChurchill : DogeX: watch me, sir. [2023-08-18 10:06:36] WinstonChurchill : I will buy her back when we're at 90k [2023-08-18 10:06:43] Dr.LongBear : Hermite: RSI 4H still sub 30 https://www.tradingview.com/x/R3DmwNVw/ it should give use great momentum to go up [2023-08-18 10:06:59] WinstonChurchill : Dr.LongBear: last time the rsi was this low was the corona dump [2023-08-18 10:07:11] WinstonChurchill : on the 4h atleast [2023-08-18 10:07:20] Dr.LongBear : WinstonChurchill: nice, lemme check [2023-08-18 10:09:13] MrBritcoin : that funding is still wicked [2023-08-18 10:09:23] petyx : dump it [2023-08-18 10:09:39] petyx : grayscale collapse on the way [2023-08-18 10:09:47] WinstonChurchill : Dr.LongBear: nvm not true kek [2023-08-18 10:11:40] Hermite : Dr.LongBear: Firstly, RSI is a delayed indicator, and a mean reverting one. So yes, it is showing to buy, since the price deviating too far from the mean. Secondly, it does not take into account price level, volume histograms and generally market physics. [2023-08-18 10:12:33] Hermite : Dr.LongBear: Arthur says BTC is going to get to 50k https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BRsq9hlBOQ&t=391s [2023-08-18 10:14:21] Dr.LongBear : Hermite: hehe like I said last time RSI mostly take into account last candle and on such high tf for me it’s 90% right or smt. I am measuring it currently so I have the exact number but I would say pretty high [2023-08-18 10:14:34] jjhiijiji : oh yeah longbear u always go on about RSI [2023-08-18 10:14:39] Dr.LongBear : Arthur is crypto billionaire so he could be right [2023-08-18 10:14:50] jjhiijiji : longbear what does ur RSI strategy tell you this moment [2023-08-18 10:14:59] jjhiijiji : give me some hopium [2023-08-18 10:15:02] Dr.LongBear : jjhiijiji: yeah it’s king of indicators really. 2.5x more important than volume [2023-08-18 10:15:12] bluemaster : https://twitter.com/AMDeFiNFT/status/1692370703881044343 [2023-08-18 10:15:17] jjhiijiji : what is it saying atm. [2023-08-18 10:15:35] Dr.LongBear : jjhiijiji: 4h timeframe have some momentum up. 1h rsi is in between, kinda bullish I would say [2023-08-18 10:15:43] jjhiijiji : i dont use TA cause i mostly swing trade stock markets which is purely fundamentals [2023-08-18 10:15:49] Crypt0Baby : yeyeyeye [2023-08-18 10:15:51] Dr.LongBear : TA is scam [2023-08-18 10:16:02] Dr.LongBear : Never draw straight lines on ur charts [2023-08-18 10:16:05] Dr.LongBear : Never [2023-08-18 10:16:07] WinstonChurchill : bluemaster: :Arthur: [2023-08-18 10:16:15] WinstonChurchill : That doesnt come as surprising at all [2023-08-18 10:16:19] Hermite : jjhiijiji: Sorry to disagree but it is not purely fundamental [2023-08-18 10:16:22] WinstonChurchill : its a dirty game, sir. [2023-08-18 10:16:27] jjhiijiji : for swing trading it is [2023-08-18 10:16:33] jjhiijiji : for scalping its not [2023-08-18 10:17:15] jjhiijiji : the movement of a stock will have to do massively with the company's financials, its prospects, the state of the markets i.e rates etc... nothing to do with TA in that sense [2023-08-18 10:17:29] jjhiijiji : if you are day trading then sure u can use TA [2023-08-18 10:18:06] Hermite : jjhiijiji: have you tried trading based on 10Q,10K? [2023-08-18 10:18:18] Dr.LongBear : jjhiijiji: https://www.tradingview.com/x/ZexeRoxs/ see how RSI help on 4h tf [2023-08-18 10:18:22] jjhiijiji : US foreign policy etc... for e.g semiconductors was a huge issue, US passed the CHIPS act, restricted china, and semiconductor companies boomed in US. no TA here purely fundamentals [2023-08-18 10:18:25] jjhiijiji : it depends on ur type of trading [2023-08-18 10:18:33] jjhiijiji : TA can be very useful for short term traders like scalpers [2023-08-18 10:18:42] Dr.LongBear : it's super accurate, not always but most of time it'll give you super nice entries [2023-08-18 10:18:56] jjhiijiji : Dr.LongBear: for good entries and short term trades, TA can be very useful [2023-08-18 10:19:03] jjhiijiji : but for my type of trading it is completely irrelevant [2023-08-18 10:19:34] bearmaster : bluemaster: If that's the case shouldn't BNB have gone up against BTC [2023-08-18 10:19:45] jjhiijiji : Dr.LongBear: 👍 [2023-08-18 10:19:58] Dr.LongBear : Even the yesterday crash happened **exactly** when we crossed RSI support https://www.tradingview.com/x/80fGw900/ [2023-08-18 10:20:03] jjhiijiji : Hermite: no [2023-08-18 10:20:11] Dr.LongBear : Really this is way more in RSI than most people think [2023-08-18 10:20:55] jjhiijiji : wouldnt the RSI have popped under just as we dumped and not before though so how would that work as an indicator [2023-08-18 10:21:01] Hermite : jjhiijiji: there is a lot of manipulation going on, and this is supposed the be the fundamentals that matter. [2023-08-18 10:21:05] bearmaster : Dr.LongBear: It looks even better on that chart [2023-08-18 10:21:23] Dr.LongBear : bearmaster: 👍👍👍 [2023-08-18 10:21:27] jjhiijiji : Hermite: the important things are to learn things like how rates, bonds and stocks are correlated, how fed policy affects the markets etc [2023-08-18 10:21:33] bearmaster : Everyone blaming everyone, while obviously all exchanges are in cahoots. [2023-08-18 10:21:42] bearmaster : Don't be fooled, kids, you got swindled. [2023-08-18 10:22:29] Dr.LongBear : jjhiijiji: Use first increasing of decreasing mov after RSI overbought or oversell, I plot the triangles on the chart blue or purple [2023-08-18 10:22:36] Dr.LongBear : theses are sweet spot to openj [2023-08-18 10:22:47] bearmaster : 16k isn't all that far away now... [2023-08-18 10:22:53] jjhiijiji : bearmaster noooooooo ;< [2023-08-18 10:23:05] Dr.LongBear : Byt only on 4H or maybe 1H if u ready to take a lot of risks [2023-08-18 10:23:45] bearmaster : Won't hear a lot of people bragging their longs at 8k [2023-08-18 10:23:48] bearmaster : :kek: [2023-08-18 10:23:49] lelskates : Fk @bluemaster [2023-08-18 10:23:51] jjhiijiji : Dr.LongBear: 👍 [2023-08-18 10:24:26] DogeX : lelskates: be nice 😁 [2023-08-18 10:24:31] lelskates : You got shrekt son [2023-08-18 10:24:51] lelskates : Now I don't feel so bad losing 10% lol [2023-08-18 10:25:04] WinstonChurchill : wow im a worm now [2023-08-18 10:25:06] jjhiijiji : im not good with TA but if u ask me , staying below 26.8 will mean there is still a lot further to drop. if we pop over it and stay there i feel there will be a bump up [2023-08-18 10:25:12] Dr.LongBear : WinstonChurchill: yeeeeeahhh [2023-08-18 10:25:17] Dr.LongBear : Welcome buddy ! [2023-08-18 10:25:19] lelskates : TA is bs bro lol [2023-08-18 10:25:21] WinstonChurchill : :doge: [2023-08-18 10:25:24] Dr.LongBear : You're one of us now [2023-08-18 10:25:27] jjhiijiji : it is mostly bs [2023-08-18 10:25:28] DogeX : WinstonChurchill: 😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍 [2023-08-18 10:25:30] Dr.LongBear : :doge::catjam: [2023-08-18 10:25:33] WinstonChurchill : hehe [2023-08-18 10:25:42] bearmaster : I expect a swift 18% drop in a 1 min wick [2023-08-18 10:25:43] Dr.LongBear : lelskates: +1000 [2023-08-18 10:25:44] WinstonChurchill : there better [2023-08-18 10:25:48] bearmaster : :arthur: [2023-08-18 10:25:50] jjhiijiji : bearmaster ;< [2023-08-18 10:25:50] lelskates : Market events and whale manipulation > TA [2023-08-18 10:26:09] jjhiijiji : lelskates: 100% [2023-08-18 10:26:16] lelskates : I just bought 50k doge [2023-08-18 10:26:18] bearmaster : jjhiijiji: could go 180k too sir [2023-08-18 10:26:21] lelskates : Don't dump plz [2023-08-18 10:26:25] jjhiijiji : bearmaster: aaaaaah thats better :) [2023-08-18 10:26:29] DogeX : WinstonChurchill: :doge: :doge: :doge: :doge: :doge: [2023-08-18 10:26:35] bearmaster : **FIRST DETH** [2023-08-18 10:26:40] jjhiijiji : i feel safu now [2023-08-18 10:26:58] WinstonChurchill : damn you can see the trades of guild members [2023-08-18 10:26:58] WinstonChurchill : epic [2023-08-18 10:27:00] Dr.LongBear : WinstonChurchill: Activate stream pos on guild page if u want to u can see our underwater positions x) [2023-08-18 10:27:01] DogeX : lelskates: :doge: :doge: [2023-08-18 10:27:06] WinstonChurchill : :Arthur: [2023-08-18 10:27:09] WinstonChurchill : I have [2023-08-18 10:27:25] Dr.LongBear : Nice ! [2023-08-18 10:27:56] WinstonChurchill : DogeX: nice cross trades, sir. [2023-08-18 10:28:02] bearmaster : It's funny though right, everyone flashing shorts here [2023-08-18 10:28:08] bearmaster : and then it crashes 14%? [2023-08-18 10:28:16] bearmaster : Really coincidental! [2023-08-18 10:28:34] bearmaster : How's the guild with the 2,9M short not come up? [2023-08-18 10:28:55] DogeX : WinstonChurchill: I got liq bro I just started fresh. Now 😭 [2023-08-18 10:29:40] bearmaster : Or did they perfectly take a profit at 24xxx