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<< >> English 中文 Русский 한국어 日本語 Español Français [2023-08-18 07:02:44] hehe MOON : Hermite: my farts are stronger than bearas dumps [2023-08-18 07:02:48] hehe MOON : **fact** [2023-08-18 07:02:49] WinstonChurchill : 5200€+ on 1 trade [2023-08-18 07:02:53] Gandalf the Grey : WinstonChurchill: Did you survive ser? [2023-08-18 07:02:54] WinstonChurchill : Holyyyyyyy [2023-08-18 07:02:57] WinstonChurchill : Omg [2023-08-18 07:02:58] WinstonChurchill : Omg [2023-08-18 07:03:08] Gandalf the Grey : You switched? [2023-08-18 07:03:17] WinstonChurchill : I shorted 27780 [2023-08-18 07:03:54] WinstonChurchill : /position xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: 5,500 USD @ 25859.5 ``` [2023-08-18 07:04:04] Gandalf the Grey : Nice1! [2023-08-18 07:04:05] WinstonChurchill : 1 order got filled [2023-08-18 07:04:06] WinstonChurchill : Lmao [2023-08-18 07:04:29] WinstonChurchill : Gandalf the Grey: what about you, sir. [2023-08-18 07:06:01] Gandalf the Grey : I was sleeping lol [2023-08-18 07:06:02] Gandalf the Grey : Did nothing [2023-08-18 07:06:26] Gandalf the Grey : Had TP at 27.2k so way too high but at least something [2023-08-18 07:06:30] Gandalf the Grey : KEK [2023-08-18 07:06:35] WinstonChurchill : Lolll [2023-08-18 07:07:00] hehe MOON : Hermite: 28k to 24k, compare to 15k to 32k **kek** [2023-08-18 07:07:17] WinstonChurchill : This is the bottom [2023-08-18 07:07:31] WinstonChurchill : We're going to 38k now [2023-08-18 07:07:51] Sukovsky : err [2023-08-18 07:07:58] Gandalf the Grey : brrrrrrrr [2023-08-18 07:08:11] Gandalf the Grey : Lets make some money gentlemen [2023-08-18 07:08:23] Gandalf the Grey : To make familia proud [2023-08-18 07:08:31] Gandalf the Grey : Or at least not hungry! [2023-08-18 07:08:32] petyx : its over cows Elon sold, ETF denied, Evergrande bankrupt [2023-08-18 07:08:35] WinstonChurchill : Fk familia [2023-08-18 07:08:51] WinstonChurchill : Im gonna spend it on drugs and hookers [2023-08-18 07:09:03] Gandalf the Grey : But babushka makes tasty kompot kurwa [2023-08-18 07:09:11] BigBadShort : It wont go lower than 24k [2023-08-18 07:09:15] WinstonChurchill : Lame ass kompot [2023-08-18 07:09:19] WinstonChurchill : Tastes like water [2023-08-18 07:09:20] BigBadShort : 24 is a bottom [2023-08-18 07:09:25] WinstonChurchill : :arthur [2023-08-18 07:09:28] WinstonChurchill : :arthur: [2023-08-18 07:09:51] WinstonChurchill : BigBadShort: now if you say it like that, im tempted to short again [2023-08-18 07:11:14] BigBadShort : WinstonChurchill: Yes, should come back there again, but probably bottom [2023-08-18 07:11:33] BigBadShort : Anyway, I go to get icecream now, need to think. I got liquidated ;( [2023-08-18 07:12:00] Sukovsky : man up i get liqd every month [2023-08-18 07:20:12] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated short on `BMEXUSD`: Buy 15 Cont @ 0.322 ($1.28) [2023-08-18 07:30:16] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated short on `BOBUSD`: Buy 3922605 Cont @ 0.0000038 ($39,428.09) - Life is a bear trap [2023-08-18 07:39:49] bmagic : Sukovsky: 😅 [2023-08-18 07:42:56] Gandalf the Grey : :arthur: wins every time [2023-08-18 07:49:27] BigBadShort : Gandalf the Grey: I need few days now to recover my dep back. You earned this move? [2023-08-18 07:52:21] WinstonChurchill : I earned like 50% of my all time losses back on that move lmao [2023-08-18 07:53:21] WinstonChurchill : mmm we could fall deeper here [2023-08-18 07:53:37] WinstonChurchill : 25k maybe [2023-08-18 07:54:28] Hermite : https://youtu.be/2BRsq9hlBOQ?t=391 [2023-08-18 07:57:27] Hermite : hehe MOON: would you mind elaborating why you think we should buy all the "weak ass dumbs", there was a dump 30k to 29k, did you buy? What about 29k to 28k? If you did, it clearly tells a lot about your currently position. Maybe you want to buy now? What you are going to say when the price will drop to 24k? [2023-08-18 08:00:06] jjhiijiji : morning [2023-08-18 08:00:42] jjhiijiji : hermite you think were gonna go much lower than 24k? [2023-08-18 08:01:19] Gandalf the Grey : We are up 9 percent from the bottom. Calm down lads [2023-08-18 08:01:23] Gandalf the Grey : We lala [2023-08-18 08:01:44] Hermite : hehe MOON: I would agree with you if you would trade spot, but the fact that you always here indicate that you are a leverage trader (if you actually trade at all, never seen a single trade from you). Such moves are designed to kill leverage traders, doesn't matter what leverage you have, it will get you. [2023-08-18 08:02:42] WinstonChurchill : Hermite: :Arthur: [2023-08-18 08:02:45] Hermite : jjhiijiji: based on logic, with high probability, yes, then BART is more likely. [2023-08-18 08:03:07] WinstonChurchill : @hehe MOON yes, elaborate why buy week ass dumbs, noob [2023-08-18 08:04:03] Sukovsky : i wouldnt base my charting on a big liq spike tho [2023-08-18 08:06:33] Hermite : https://youtu.be/2BRsq9hlBOQ?t=391 @WinstonChurchill @Gandalf the Grey @jjhiijiji [2023-08-18 08:06:57] WinstonChurchill : Hermite: lol [2023-08-18 08:09:48] Luke Short : /position seiusdt ``` :bitmex: SEIUSDT: 43,800 SEI @ 0.1946681 ``` [2023-08-18 08:09:56] Luke Short : How fucked am i? [2023-08-18 08:10:40] BigBadShort : Sukovsky: Hi Sukovsky! What is your short name? [2023-08-18 08:11:19] jjhiijiji : Luke Short: not as fucked as i am m8 ;) [2023-08-18 08:11:54] BigBadShort : Up only! [2023-08-18 08:12:01] BigBadShort : Only up!!!!!!!!! [2023-08-18 08:12:16] Luke Short : jjhiijiji: lol 😂 i was actually surprised in the morning that btc didn’t recover more [2023-08-18 08:12:21] Luke Short : It‘s weird [2023-08-18 08:13:16] BigBadShort : Luke Short: I was surprised that I got liquidated and we went back to my entry point! [2023-08-18 08:13:31] BigBadShort : High lev is eveil [2023-08-18 08:14:51] WinstonChurchill : Luke Short: wheres your liq [2023-08-18 08:15:12] Luke Short : WinstonChurchill: 0,12 [2023-08-18 08:15:19] WinstonChurchill : Luke Short: pretty fkd [2023-08-18 08:15:21] Gandalf the Grey : BigBadShort: Do not worry Elrond. The loss will be recovered. *MAYBE* [2023-08-18 08:15:44] WinstonChurchill : Luke Short: I can see it go to 5 cents lol [2023-08-18 08:17:05] WinstonChurchill : damn last time we were this oversold on the rsi was the corona dump kek [2023-08-18 08:17:08] Luke Short : WinstonChurchill: yeah we‘ll see.. i rode the first pump from 0,18 to 0,27 and wanted to do it again but was too greed too early [2023-08-18 08:17:34] Luke Short : WinstonChurchill: economic crisis is real Ser [2023-08-18 08:17:37] WinstonChurchill : Luke Short: I think you might be okay, I would hold onto it, BTC is going to reverse [2023-08-18 08:18:55] Luke Short : WinstonChurchill: yes I’ll wait for some serious indication.. to either cut losses or open some beers when te relieve-bullrun comes [2023-08-18 08:19:13] funnyjon : Hi all, apologies if this has been asked, is there a problem with the graphs? I have had no graphs for the last 12 hours ? [2023-08-18 08:19:23] WinstonChurchill : funnyjon: are you on chrome and phone [2023-08-18 08:19:35] funnyjon : Safari on my mac [2023-08-18 08:19:47] WinstonChurchill : is the graph gone entirely [2023-08-18 08:20:05] WinstonChurchill : or is it not working [2023-08-18 08:20:10] WinstonChurchill : with the red x thing [2023-08-18 08:20:21] funnyjon : Just has fluttering blue rectangles in it's place, little bit like a 'waiting to load symbol' [2023-08-18 08:20:28] WinstonChurchill : refresh the page [2023-08-18 08:20:31] Luke Short : funnyjon: throw away your mac and buy a real computer Ser. [2023-08-18 08:20:35] funnyjon : done that [2023-08-18 08:20:40] WinstonChurchill : Luke Short: :ARthur: [2023-08-18 08:20:45] funnyjon : Luke Short: haha ! Apple for life !! [2023-08-18 08:20:56] WinstonChurchill : funnyjon: try to change the time frame and refresh the page again [2023-08-18 08:21:29] funnyjon : WinstonChurchill: Doesn't even give you the option, it's like the frame isn't loading / connecting - never had it before ! [2023-08-18 08:21:40] WinstonChurchill : funnyjon: Go to Customize -> Reset layout [2023-08-18 08:22:04] Luke Short : Maybe delete cache? [2023-08-18 08:22:33] funnyjon : WinstonChurchill: tried [2023-08-18 08:22:36] lazyzen : my frame of the trading graph on mex is white, why is that (I am using dark mode) [2023-08-18 08:22:36] funnyjon : Luke Short: tried [2023-08-18 08:23:12] WinstonChurchill : funnyjon: then its probably safari [2023-08-18 08:23:17] Luke Short : funnyjon: Cache or safari [2023-08-18 08:23:18] WinstonChurchill : try google chrome [2023-08-18 08:23:25] WinstonChurchill : Luke Short: https://www.tradingview.com/x/ee6qIyY9 [2023-08-18 08:23:28] Luke Short : lazyzen: #me2 [2023-08-18 08:24:04] WinstonChurchill : lmao I just noticed the guild layouts hehe [2023-08-18 08:24:18] funnyjon : WinstonChurchill: @Luke Short I will give Chrome a try, hate bloody chrome lol [2023-08-18 08:24:25] WinstonChurchill : funnyjon: why hate chrome [2023-08-18 08:24:52] MrBritcoin : all these new names got to be bots lol [2023-08-18 08:25:06] WinstonChurchill : MrBritcoin: :doge: [2023-08-18 08:25:15] WinstonChurchill : MrBritcoin: https://www.tradingview.com/x/ee6qIyY9 [2023-08-18 08:25:17] jjhiijiji : britcoin when 50k? ;< [2023-08-18 08:25:20] WinstonChurchill : are you shorting 28k with me, sir? [2023-08-18 08:25:34] WinstonChurchill : jjhiijiji: in 10 years [2023-08-18 08:25:53] funnyjon : Luke Short: @WinstonChurchill Chrome worked thanks guys [2023-08-18 08:26:03] WinstonChurchill : funnyjon: That would be 99,99$, sir. [2023-08-18 08:26:09] WinstonChurchill : Did you think you would get off that easily, sir? [2023-08-18 08:26:11] WinstonChurchill : WRONG! [2023-08-18 08:27:14] funnyjon : WinstonChurchill: I just find it lumpy and less responsive plus being a Apple fanboy completely controlled by their eco system, phone, ipad, watch, tv, macbook, 2 mac minis then it is just handy as everything is synced all the time ! [2023-08-18 08:27:43] WinstonChurchill : funnyjon: is their tech really that much better [2023-08-18 08:27:59] WinstonChurchill : I mean I only ever bought airpods(in 2015) and they still work today [2023-08-18 08:28:01] funnyjon : WinstonChurchill: Ah, well if I hadn't been on a substantial long yesterday then I could have done that ! [2023-08-18 08:28:12] WinstonChurchill : hehe [2023-08-18 08:28:53] Luke Short : funnyjon: to be honest i never had issues with safari on my iphone +1 [2023-08-18 08:29:09] funnyjon : WinstonChurchill: I personally think so, I have to use Windows (and android) for some work stuff and I hate it, it is so unintuitive compared to apple. [2023-08-18 08:29:24] WinstonChurchill : funnyjon: interesting [2023-08-18 08:29:29] funnyjon : Luke Short: Neither have I, been using Bitmex for years and years and first time I have ever had a problem [2023-08-18 08:30:25] petyx : x100 short [2023-08-18 08:30:35] MrBritcoin : https://www.tradingview.com/x/goFsyDKx/ [2023-08-18 08:30:40] Luke Short : funnyjon: if you are going to use windows - direclty install an adblocker on your browser. the constant pleasure of not seeing any ads while browsing will help you over the flaws ;) [2023-08-18 08:30:48] WinstonChurchill : MrBritcoin: damn you cought an amazing long [2023-08-18 08:30:52] WinstonChurchill : still holding? [2023-08-18 08:30:58] WinstonChurchill : caught [2023-08-18 08:39:37] Atlemos : Soo, who was that guy on Binance who loaded a 3 mill 5mins before nuke? [2023-08-18 08:39:57] Atlemos : 5 mil short so down low [2023-08-18 08:49:41] WinstonChurchill : Atlemos: me [2023-08-18 08:49:51] WinstonChurchill : /pnl xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: -0.0001 XBT RPNL, 0.0051 XBT UPNL ``` [2023-08-18 08:49:52] WinstonChurchill : send it [2023-08-18 08:49:59] Sukovsky : wut [2023-08-18 08:50:09] Luke Short : nice breakout [2023-08-18 08:50:13] WinstonChurchill : time for slimy green dildo anaconda snek attack [2023-08-18 08:50:30] MrBritcoin : Big Win For Crypto As SEC Gives Green Light To Ether Futures ETFs Aug 18, 202309:44 GMT+1 The United States Securities Commission (SEC) is all set to greenlight the first exchange-traded funds (ETFs) based on Ether (ETH) futures in a big win for the crypto space. Nearly a dozen companies have expressed interest and filed applications with the SEC to launch ETFs.Big Win For Crypto [2023-08-18 08:50:35] BigBadShort : UP ONLY! [2023-08-18 08:51:05] Luke Short : Where is the big win on the Chart? :( [2023-08-18 08:51:10] WinstonChurchill : MrBritcoin: link? [2023-08-18 08:51:31] MrBritcoin : BigBadShort: 😮yes [2023-08-18 08:51:50] Luke Short : Where is the big win for SEI network since it's the fastest crypto network ever made especially for exchanges/trading :( [2023-08-18 08:52:01] Luke Short : there is no god anymore :( [2023-08-18 08:52:14] WinstonChurchill : super duper breakout incoming [2023-08-18 08:52:22] WinstonChurchill : /position xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: 5,500 USD @ 25859.5 ``` [2023-08-18 08:52:35] jjhiijiji : technicals dont matter. the markets crashed yesterday sending btc along with it [2023-08-18 08:52:40] WinstonChurchill : https://www.tradingview.com/x/zsLKWxMl [2023-08-18 08:52:42] WinstonChurchill : :doge: [2023-08-18 08:52:56] jjhiijiji : s&p crashed, nasdaq crashed.. they all crashed. no bitcoin headlines is gonna change what the markets are doing [2023-08-18 08:53:39] Luke Short : jjhiijiji: how is it it's always the FED's fault when i lose money???? [2023-08-18 08:53:51] jjhiijiji : stop reading bitcoin news and start reading news related to global markets, especially US markets, interest rates, fed policy, etc etc [2023-08-18 08:53:51] MrBritcoin : jjhiijiji: for the kids bro its bullish news that [2023-08-18 08:54:51] jjhiijiji : yeah its nice bullish news but that announcement came out before this nuke ;p the approval was given like a couple days ago or smth. reguardless of any good news if major US indeces are crashing no good news will stop btc from crashing with it. [2023-08-18 08:55:04] MrBritcoin : https://cryptodaily.co.uk/2023/08/big-win-for-crypto-as-sec-gives-green-light-to-ether-futures-etfs [2023-08-18 08:55:55] hehe MOON : mmm that funding [2023-08-18 08:56:05] WinstonChurchill : wth 0.1% [2023-08-18 08:56:13] MrBritcoin : hummm yes [2023-08-18 08:56:14] WinstonChurchill : thats like an entire 2$ [2023-08-18 08:56:17] WinstonChurchill : excellent [2023-08-18 08:56:23] MrBritcoin : /position xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: 27,600 USD @ 25184.8568 ``` [2023-08-18 08:56:35] hehe MOON : BUY EVERY WEAK ASS DUMP, EZ [2023-08-18 08:56:37] WinstonChurchill : oh wow actually 6$... [2023-08-18 08:56:39] hehe MOON : :DOGE: [2023-08-18 08:56:40] WinstonChurchill : im rich now [2023-08-18 08:56:44] WinstonChurchill : MrBritcoin: +1000 [2023-08-18 08:56:58] hehe MOON : WinstonChurchill: treat yourself to a cheeseburger [2023-08-18 08:57:25] WinstonChurchill : hehe MOON: I will treat myself a monthly subscription of hehe MOON's saturday night's latex pleasure, sir. [2023-08-18 08:57:38] jjhiijiji : we need to get over 26800 and stay there ;< please arthur.. for me... you know i love you [2023-08-18 08:57:49] WinstonChurchill : jjhiijiji: 4 hourly looking good [2023-08-18 08:58:05] WinstonChurchill : blast through 27200 and its done [2023-08-18 08:58:09] hehe MOON : WinstonChurchill: i have a sale on my bottled farts sir [2023-08-18 08:58:21] Hermite : hehe MOON: would you mind elaborating why you think we should buy all the "weak ass dumbs", there was a dump 30k to 29k, did you buy? What about 29k to 28k? If you did, it clearly tells a lot about your currently position. Maybe you want to buy now? What you are going to say when the price will drop to 24k? [2023-08-18 08:58:26] hehe MOON : My farts are stronger than bearas dumps [2023-08-18 08:58:27] Hermite : hehe MOON: I would agree with you if you would trade spot, but the fact that you always here indicate that you are a leverage trader (if you actually trade at all, never seen a single trade from you). Such moves are designed to kill leverage traders, doesn't matter what leverage you have, it will get you. [2023-08-18 08:58:33] hehe MOON : **fact** [2023-08-18 08:58:35] WinstonChurchill : hehe MOON: WHAT REALLY? I mean.. How disgusting! _orders 9 bottles_ [2023-08-18 08:58:49] WinstonChurchill : :pepeb: [2023-08-18 08:59:05] lelskates : theres the dildo [2023-08-18 08:59:13] lelskates : bears u love the cawk [2023-08-18 08:59:17] WinstonChurchill : hehe MOON: elaborate big fat noob [2023-08-18 08:59:26] hehe MOON : Hermite: you think its a strong dump from 28k to 24k? [2023-08-18 08:59:39] jjhiijiji : you think its not? [2023-08-18 08:59:45] WinstonChurchill : :Arthur: [2023-08-18 08:59:48] hehe MOON : Hermite: compare it to 15k to 32k **kek** [2023-08-18 08:59:48] Hermite : hehe MOON: can you please elaborate on this? [2023-08-18 09:00:00] hehe MOON : Hermite: ^^ [2023-08-18 09:00:18] MrBritcoin : https://prnt.sc/NW0zsZUw6NYN [2023-08-18 09:00:18] hehe MOON : *drops mic* [2023-08-18 09:00:27] jjhiijiji : considering the dump happened in 5 minutes id say it was a fckin devastating dump. i think it gave me ptsd [2023-08-18 09:01:12] Hermite : hehe MOON: if you don't trade and just hanging out here because there is nothing else for you to do, most of us are leverage traders here. So please explain to me how come buying at 30k, would be make me survive 6k dump so I can by more? @jjhiijiji [2023-08-18 09:01:54] MrBritcoin : jjhiijiji: the next move will put you in a mental home then [2023-08-18 09:01:54] jjhiijiji : well if ur only using 2x 3x leverage then you would survive [2023-08-18 09:02:24] Hermite : jjhiijiji: if you use 3x leverage, you would be gone if the price dives under 20l [2023-08-18 09:02:29] hehe MOON : Hermite: if you cant handle a 4k dump then you should move to testnet like StevenClown [2023-08-18 09:02:30] jjhiijiji : yeah u said 6k dump [2023-08-18 09:02:33] jjhiijiji : u meant 6k PRICE? [2023-08-18 09:02:36] Hermite : jjhiijiji: and this is not unlikely [2023-08-18 09:02:47] jjhiijiji : in that case only 1x survives ;p [2023-08-18 09:02:58] jjhiijiji : i think 6k is unlikely [2023-08-18 09:03:05] Hermite : jjhiijiji: then trade spot [2023-08-18 09:03:17] Hermite : jjhiijiji: there is not need to be here, in fact it less safe [2023-08-18 09:03:33] WinstonChurchill : bla bla bla [2023-08-18 09:03:38] hehe MOON : Remember the days of 10k moves when :arthur: was here [2023-08-18 09:03:38] WinstonChurchill : NEXT TARGET -> 9600$ [2023-08-18 09:03:42] hehe MOON : Good times [2023-08-18 09:03:45] Hermite : hehe MOON: sure, let's do it setp by step, what leverage would you trade [2023-08-18 09:04:05] hehe MOON : Hermite: 100x long full account no stop loss, EZ [2023-08-18 09:04:13] hehe MOON : Weak ass bearas [2023-08-18 09:04:21] hehe MOON : :doge: [2023-08-18 09:04:22] Hermite : hehe MOON: this statement contradics what you have just said above [2023-08-18 09:04:42] Hermite : hehe MOON: if you buy 100x, and the price dumps just 300 dollah, you are gone [2023-08-18 09:04:55] Hermite : hehe MOON: how come you recommed buying it [2023-08-18 09:05:22] Hermite : hehe MOON: I think you are a shitty person, buy know that his would REKT other traders, still recommeding it [2023-08-18 09:05:29] hehe MOON : Hermite: thats why you hedge sir and buy every weak ass dump [2023-08-18 09:05:41] Hermite : hehe MOON: you cannot hedge 100x [2023-08-18 09:05:50] Hermite : hehe MOON: tell the scenario how you would do that [2023-08-18 09:06:39] MrBritcoin : Hermite: 10x long 100x short on cross [2023-08-18 09:06:48] MrBritcoin : 100xlong [2023-08-18 09:07:02] Hermite : MrBritcoin: if you hold 100x, you have no margine to hedge [2023-08-18 09:07:07] Hermite : MrBritcoin: plesae think [2023-08-18 09:07:09] hehe MOON : Hermite: with profit targets of course [2023-08-18 09:07:20] jjhiijiji : unless ur using 2 accounts ;p [2023-08-18 09:07:42] Hermite : jjhiijiji: uless you have have another account, unless you hace more money etc etc [2023-08-18 09:07:52] MrBritcoin : jjhiijiji: one futures one perpetual [2023-08-18 09:07:57] Hermite : jjhiijiji: of course, there are nuances [2023-08-18 09:07:57] jjhiijiji : man i dont think he was serious when he said 100x ur full account no stop [2023-08-18 09:08:02] jjhiijiji : no point arguing with him [2023-08-18 09:08:03] MrBritcoin : same account [2023-08-18 09:08:10] Hermite : MrBritcoin: you cannot do that, if you trade 100x [2023-08-18 09:08:18] MrBritcoin : try it for your self [2023-08-18 09:08:37] Hermite : MrBritcoin: plus have you tried opening a poisitong as a hedge on non perpetual futures ? [2023-08-18 09:08:37] hehe MOON : jjhiijiji: sir, we are all serious professional traders here sir . Except that StevenClown guy [2023-08-18 09:08:47] hehe MOON : :arthur: [2023-08-18 09:08:50] MrBritcoin : Hermite: try it as see where liq is sir [2023-08-18 09:08:52] Hermite : MrBritcoin: try it out first [2023-08-18 09:09:08] Hermite : MrBritcoin: if you will seen that it is not ez as you might think in theory [2023-08-18 09:09:25] Hermite : MrBritcoin: the spread is huge, plus no liqudity [2023-08-18 09:09:44] Hermite : MrBritcoin: @hehe MOON I am not sure what you guys are taling about [2023-08-18 09:09:58] Hermite : MrBritcoin: @hehe MOON unless you want other traders here to get REKT [2023-08-18 09:10:11] Hermite : MrBritcoin: @hehe MOON this is really sad [2023-08-18 09:10:35] jjhiijiji : i dont think anyone really hedges 100x. if anything there are people with low leverage and using options/futures to hedge. i doubt anyone does 100x longs and hedge with 100x shorts [2023-08-18 09:10:45] hehe MOON : Hermite: please be aware, you are speaking with the third best trader on the internet sir, after sen prof. and Werner [2023-08-18 09:10:52] Hermite : jjhiijiji: you cannot, period. [2023-08-18 09:11:08] jjhiijiji : but i think a lot of this convo was a joke anyway not a real arguement [2023-08-18 09:11:12] jjhiijiji : they are just trolling on trollbox [2023-08-18 09:11:15] Hermite : hehe MOON: show your track record if you are the best [2023-08-18 09:11:25] jjhiijiji : 100x long ur whole account no stop? that s a trollbox comment dont take it seriously [2023-08-18 09:11:31] Hermite : hehe MOON: because right now your intention is to get everyone REKT [2023-08-18 09:11:31] hehe MOON : jjhiijiji: 🚬:me: [2023-08-18 09:11:58] jjhiijiji : if anyone actually listens to a guy on trollbox telling them to 100x long their whole account then whos fault it is, hehe MOONs fault or the guy who initiated the trade? [2023-08-18 09:12:24] Hermite : jjhiijiji: I just see that this guy @hehe MOON is a terrible person, that's all I can say. [2023-08-18 09:12:24] DogeX : Yo yo :doge: [2023-08-18 09:12:29] MrBritcoin : Hermite: you need to try it do it on xrp or something cheep or test net if thats still going on [2023-08-18 09:12:42] hehe MOON : DogeX: 🦶:doge: [2023-08-18 09:13:01] DogeX : hehe MOON: 💚😍:doge: [2023-08-18 09:13:16] Fuun : u still look depressed, kids. [2023-08-18 09:13:27] Fuun : is something wrong in your dead chat? [2023-08-18 09:13:39] jjhiijiji : how many fckin fuuns am i gonna have to mute before it goes away????? [2023-08-18 09:13:45] Fuun : u still dont have enough nicknames. :joy: [2023-08-18 09:13:57] Hermite : MrBritcoin: I see that you speak form a theoretical perspective, sure In theory it all sound good. [2023-08-18 09:14:11] 9figrs : where is winston [2023-08-18 09:14:21] Fuun : but. [2023-08-18 09:14:23] Dr.LongBear : Are mooning or what ? [2023-08-18 09:14:27] Fuun : u are still tryin it. [2023-08-18 09:14:29] Dr.LongBear : :doge: [2023-08-18 09:14:33] Fuun : thats cute. [2023-08-18 09:14:38] 9figrs : koreans are longing [2023-08-18 09:14:41] 9figrs : still more downside to go [2023-08-18 09:15:05] jjhiijiji : this must be like the 5th Fuun ive muted. either there is something wrong with the mute function or she has like a dozen accounts or smth [2023-08-18 09:15:24] Fuun : just try it smarter. [2023-08-18 09:15:33] MrBritcoin : Hermite: yes they basicaly cancel each other out [2023-08-18 09:15:35] Fuun : not the hard way. [2023-08-18 09:15:42] Hermite : 9figrs: you can see in real time how he traded the dump https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WK12nDufDyU [2023-08-18 09:16:04] Dr.LongBear : CATAPULTAPUMPA ! [2023-08-18 09:16:17] Hermite : MrBritcoin: that is the purpose of hedging mate.. that's how it supposed to work. [2023-08-18 09:16:29] 9figrs : Hermite: i dont look too much into these guys, but its always good to check every now and then [2023-08-18 09:16:44] MrBritcoin : Hermite: yea of cores [2023-08-18 09:17:06] Hermite : MrBritcoin: in practice however it is not as easy, please give it a try... [2023-08-18 09:18:14] DogeX : MrBritcoin: yo yo :doge: [2023-08-18 09:18:19] jjhiijiji : hedging actually is widely used with high capital traders. just not on 100x [2023-08-18 09:18:23] DogeX : Hermite: :doge: [2023-08-18 09:18:26] Dr.LongBear : ** ALL THE WAY UP ** [2023-08-18 09:18:31] DogeX : Dr.LongBear: :doge: [2023-08-18 09:18:41] Dr.LongBear : DogeX: :doge::doge::doge: [2023-08-18 09:18:48] Hermite : DogeX: @Dr.LongBear have you guys survived the drump? [2023-08-18 09:19:01] DogeX : Hermite: no 😭 [2023-08-18 09:19:07] jjhiijiji : i didnt. im dead. [2023-08-18 09:19:11] Dr.LongBear : jjhiijiji: @Hermite @9figrs @hehe MOON @WinstonChurchill :catjam::doge::catjam::doge::catjam::doge: [2023-08-18 09:19:17] jjhiijiji : longbeeeear [2023-08-18 09:19:24] DogeX : jjhiijiji: me to 😭 [2023-08-18 09:19:28] Hermite : DogeX: @jjhiijiji same here [2023-08-18 09:19:31] jjhiijiji : here to see my last moments before i get liqd? [2023-08-18 09:19:44] Dr.LongBear : Hermite: I REKT my pos of 0.0002 XBT then I shorted right before that terrible 5 min candle and got it back ! [2023-08-18 09:19:52] Dr.LongBear : That was hell of a ride [2023-08-18 09:19:58] Hermite : DogeX: you don't show your trades anymore ? 😁 [2023-08-18 09:20:01] WinstonChurchill : Dr.LongBear: :ARthur: [2023-08-18 09:20:03] WinstonChurchill : Congrats, sir. [2023-08-18 09:20:10] jjhiijiji : Hermite: /pnl xbtusd [2023-08-18 09:20:13] Dr.LongBear : tyy [2023-08-18 09:20:14] jjhiijiji : /pnl xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: -0.0006 XBT RPNL, -0.0515 XBT UPNL ``` [2023-08-18 09:20:16] jjhiijiji : weeeeee [2023-08-18 09:20:16] Hermite : Dr.LongBear: 😀 congrads [2023-08-18 09:20:18] MrBritcoin : Hermite: right use cross 100 contracts long 100 short futures you add to the loosing trade wich keeps you close to market price whilst your other is making a profit an at some point there both be in gains [2023-08-18 09:20:21] WinstonChurchill : jjhiijiji: damn [2023-08-18 09:20:29] WinstonChurchill : jjhiijiji: What is the entry [2023-08-18 09:20:32] Dr.LongBear : Are guild pos back ? I saw a msg from Pez in the night [2023-08-18 09:20:38] jjhiijiji : a retarded one :) [2023-08-18 09:20:42] Hermite : MrBritcoin: yes, have to tried actually doing it? [2023-08-18 09:20:46] jjhiijiji : 29.2k @WinstonChurchill [2023-08-18 09:20:54] jjhiijiji : WinstonChurchill: im proper fooked innit [2023-08-18 09:20:59] Hermite : jjhiijiji: oh wow [2023-08-18 09:21:14] jjhiijiji : its fine im adding more margin later today [2023-08-18 09:21:16] Dr.LongBear : jjhiijiji: long or short ? [2023-08-18 09:21:18] WinstonChurchill : jjhiijiji: lmao that 292 resistance [2023-08-18 09:21:20] MrBritcoin : Hermite: yes i have [2023-08-18 09:21:22] jjhiijiji : will lower my liq to under 20k's [2023-08-18 09:21:30] WinstonChurchill : jjhiijiji: I mean if it broke we would be sitting at 38k probably [2023-08-18 09:21:35] DogeX : Hermite: realy I re did it somone turnd it off [2023-08-18 09:21:39] WinstonChurchill : tough times [2023-08-18 09:21:49] jjhiijiji : WinstonChurchill: i thought we would go to 32k before le damp. i was wrong [2023-08-18 09:21:51] jjhiijiji : ;D [2023-08-18 09:21:58] Dr.LongBear : dammit [2023-08-18 09:21:59] DogeX : WinstonChurchill: :doge: :doge: :doge: [2023-08-18 09:22:02] Hermite : MrBritcoin: how much you paied for the hedge ? [2023-08-18 09:22:05] jjhiijiji : its fine, no biggie. ill survive [2023-08-18 09:22:06] WinstonChurchill : jjhiijiji: you survived the 24k dump though [2023-08-18 09:22:14] WinstonChurchill : you must be <5x lev then [2023-08-18 09:22:21] jjhiijiji : yeah ofcourse [2023-08-18 09:22:28] WinstonChurchill : DogeX: :doge: :Doge: :Doge: :Doge: :Doge: :doge: :doge: :Doge: :doge [2023-08-18 09:22:30] jjhiijiji : im gonna add more today so i can be at least at 2.5x [2023-08-18 09:22:36] jjhiijiji : if needed ill add more and go down to 2x [2023-08-18 09:22:48] Hermite : DogeX: oh you are right! [2023-08-18 09:23:04] jjhiijiji : and hopefully by next year ill be back in the green ;p [2023-08-18 09:23:53] jjhiijiji : im just building up a very long term long slowly [2023-08-18 09:23:55] Dr.LongBear : Hermite: You can turn stream pos again if u want [2023-08-18 09:24:07] Dr.LongBear : I all have been disabled I only see DogeX [2023-08-18 09:24:13] Dr.LongBear : it* [2023-08-18 09:24:30] Hermite : Dr.LongBear: Let me turn it on, but I need to deposit first 😜 [2023-08-18 09:24:40] 9figrs : WinstonChurchill: are you longing or shorting? [2023-08-18 09:24:43] MrBritcoin : Hermite: well you cant lock it down really its all about when you close if you got deep pockests you just keep adding to the loosing trade an when market puts both in profit you close [2023-08-18 09:24:45] WinstonChurchill : /position xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: 5,500 USD @ 25859.5 ``` [2023-08-18 09:24:48] MrBritcoin : both [2023-08-18 09:24:53] Dr.LongBear : Hehe no pb, don't feel any obligation of doing so :) [2023-08-18 09:24:56] Dr.LongBear : We have all the time [2023-08-18 09:25:02] 9figrs : Hermite: also hopefully that korean guy stays in his long lol his 23700 liq will be taken [2023-08-18 09:25:05] petyx : situation is ultra bearish 21k is granted [2023-08-18 09:25:28] 9figrs : Hermite: pretty sure that korean guy leaves his stream on over the weekend so likely he stays in that trade = we going lower [2023-08-18 09:25:33] Dr.LongBear : I see only bullish [2023-08-18 09:25:35] 9figrs : WinstonChurchill: and yeah thanks mate we are going lower [2023-08-18 09:25:40] WinstonChurchill : 9figrs: +1000 [2023-08-18 09:25:43] Dr.LongBear : Too many green cancles [2023-08-18 09:25:43] 9figrs : Dr.LongBear: bro bullish on air tokens? [2023-08-18 09:25:44] WinstonChurchill : ALLIN 100x SHORT [2023-08-18 09:25:47] MrBritcoin : Hermite: you just got to watch futures really as you pointed out you need the spread to be tight [2023-08-18 09:25:55] jjhiijiji : if major US indices dont recover at least a little today after days and days of fckin dumping its gonna be hell [2023-08-18 09:25:57] 9figrs : imagine being bullish on this geek economy toy bitcoin [2023-08-18 09:26:05] 9figrs : Hey guys we are buying air worth 20k USD [2023-08-18 09:26:09] 9figrs : with a bitcoin logo over it [2023-08-18 09:26:10] Dr.LongBear : Well we survived that crazy dump, people want to buy it @9figrs [2023-08-18 09:26:18] 9figrs : okay lets see [2023-08-18 09:26:22] Dr.LongBear : lol at the 5 min [2023-08-18 09:26:25] Dr.LongBear : look* [2023-08-18 09:26:41] Dr.LongBear : It seems like a corn to me, could be wrong of course [2023-08-18 09:26:59] jjhiijiji : it seems like corn that was shoved insides a bulls ass with blood all over it [2023-08-18 09:27:05] Dr.LongBear : lol [2023-08-18 09:27:10] Dr.LongBear : true [2023-08-18 09:27:19] MrBritcoin : 9figrs: imagen not being bullish on a standard pull back on a cup an handle [2023-08-18 09:27:20] lazyzen : 9figrs: we are not buying air. We are buing bits that burn electricity [2023-08-18 09:27:37] MrBritcoin : https://www.tradingview.com/x/XpDBO953/ [2023-08-18 09:27:41] jjhiijiji : bitcoin macro is definitely bullish despite these dumps [2023-08-18 09:27:49] WinstonChurchill : MrBritcoin: rekt [2023-08-18 09:27:53] jjhiijiji : long term bullish, short term bearish [2023-08-18 09:28:02] bearmaster : REKT [2023-08-18 09:28:25] Hermite : MrBritcoin: I doubt that you tried hedging this way, but okay cannot claim anything. What I can say is due to (a) market fees, (b) low liquidity, (c) and massive spread when the price moves fast, this type of hedging will costy a lot.. moreover if you trade wtih high leverage will make it pretty much worse than just closing your original position. I don't want to argue, if it works for you, God bless you. [2023-08-18 09:28:29] Dr.LongBear : If weekly close above 275 that was a non-event https://www.tradingview.com/x/sShtxFmM/ [2023-08-18 09:28:32] 9figrs : MrBritcoin: imagine trading cup and handles [2023-08-18 09:28:45] MrBritcoin : as long as this week closes at this fib level we mooning [2023-08-18 09:29:00] jjhiijiji : Dr.LongBear: that would be amazing ;< im really not feeling it though [2023-08-18 09:29:24] petyx : people still ultra cowish, we need another flush to 19k [2023-08-18 09:29:33] MrBritcoin : Hermite: m8 iv tried evey nook an cranny of this market trust me [2023-08-18 09:29:41] jjhiijiji : if people are still ultra cowish how the hell is the funding -0.1% [2023-08-18 09:29:50] jjhiijiji : i think at this point most people are short [2023-08-18 09:29:55] Hermite : 9figrs: he longed at around 25k, but then closed it quickly, the longed again. I think he trades 24/7 :) [2023-08-18 09:29:55] Dr.LongBear : jjhiijiji: dammit, then we will not go above 30K this year [2023-08-18 09:29:56] jjhiijiji : which is why they need to get liqd [2023-08-18 09:29:58] Dr.LongBear : So many shorters [2023-08-18 09:30:02] bearmaster : Hermite: Ahahahaha just like that 2.9M short [2023-08-18 09:30:08] petyx : jjhiijiji: its not last longer then one funding cycle [2023-08-18 09:30:14] bearmaster : Could have made an easy 500k, but it was a hedge :kek: [2023-08-18 09:30:17] MrBritcoin : 9figrs: well that pull back confirmed bull momo [2023-08-18 09:30:20] bearmaster : Classic. [2023-08-18 09:30:23] jjhiijiji : Dr.LongBear: many shorters is good. it gives more fuel for the pamp [2023-08-18 09:30:34] jjhiijiji : also gives arthur and his buddies to pump and liq everyone [2023-08-18 09:30:34] WinstonChurchill : jjhiijiji: most people are wrong, so we are going up [2023-08-18 09:30:40] MrBritcoin : its almost clarification of cup an handle [2023-08-18 09:30:47] bearmaster : 23K first, kids. [2023-08-18 09:30:49] MrBritcoin : well it is [2023-08-18 09:30:49] jjhiijiji : WinstonChurchill: most times, most people lose. its just facts [2023-08-18 09:31:05] 9figrs : bearmaster: 22300 [2023-08-18 09:31:13] jjhiijiji : WinstonChurchill: signing up to any trading site even tells you that 70 - 80% people lose their money lol [2023-08-18 09:31:17] New Age : /pnl xbtusd come with me, fly you out to Greece. We can shop at Gucci, shop at Louie V ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: 3.4023 XBT RPNL, -0.6622 XBT UPNL ``` [2023-08-18 09:31:19] bearmaster : 23200>22300 [2023-08-18 09:31:29] WinstonChurchill : jjhiijiji: kek trading sites [2023-08-18 09:31:46] 9figrs : the most people lose or most people are wrong is not a good idea to base your trades lol [2023-08-18 09:31:52] 9figrs : while it may be true, trade the market properly [2023-08-18 09:31:58] MrBritcoin : New Age: i only shop at pound land sorry [2023-08-18 09:32:00] MrBritcoin : lol [2023-08-18 09:32:03] jjhiijiji : WinstonChurchill: the odds are worse than playing red black at a roulette table lol [2023-08-18 09:32:24] hehe MOON : Anyone seen Bluemaster? [2023-08-18 09:32:27] bearmaster : There's more edge to be had here. [2023-08-18 09:32:30] hehe MOON : :pepe: [2023-08-18 09:32:30] Hermite : bearmaster: I agree that we are going to see a lower, at least 24k. [2023-08-18 09:32:42] MrBritcoin : hehe MOON: yea he was ere last night [2023-08-18 09:32:44] WinstonChurchill : the only real trading course to turn you into a pro is to lose atleast 10.000$ [2023-08-18 09:32:45] bearmaster : hehe MOON: Yes he's alive but down. [2023-08-18 09:32:59] 9figrs : 23800 is the obvious sweep where retail will probably try step in and hold the line once again then it will push lower [2023-08-18 09:33:08] MrBritcoin : going head to head with steves as normal [2023-08-18 09:33:09] Dr.LongBear : WinstonChurchill: I am at 7000$ loss and I start to be good [2023-08-18 09:33:16] jjhiijiji : retail holding the line? thats funny [2023-08-18 09:33:16] Dr.LongBear : It's only up now [2023-08-18 09:33:17] WinstonChurchill : Dr.LongBear: yeah 3k more to go [2023-08-18 09:33:20] Dr.LongBear : I mean my wallet [2023-08-18 09:33:20] jjhiijiji : retail can never hold any line [2023-08-18 09:33:22] WinstonChurchill : then you will be profitable [2023-08-18 09:33:36] bearmaster : WinstonChurchill: I lost well over 200K$ and I only just made my first 50$ profit! [2023-08-18 09:33:36] hehe MOON : Bluemaster is an Olympic swimmer, he will survive [2023-08-18 09:33:39] 9figrs : WinstonChurchill: lol you gotta lose more than 10k to become good at trading [2023-08-18 09:33:42] Dr.LongBear : If we go 120K I'll be good [2023-08-18 09:33:48] Dr.LongBear : Maybe I'll save those extra 3000 [2023-08-18 09:34:00] WinstonChurchill : 9figrs: depends on the iq [2023-08-18 09:34:17] bearmaster : Dr.LongBear: 120k should be retiring worthy [2023-08-18 09:34:22] MrBritcoin : hehe MOON: steves started on me but i told him to button it or we be doing a live elon an zuckerb fight in a ring [2023-08-18 09:34:27] Dr.LongBear : bearmaster: 120K is programmed [2023-08-18 09:34:28] MrBritcoin : ding ding [2023-08-18 09:34:33] Dr.LongBear : it's how the blockchain work [2023-08-18 09:34:36] jjhiijiji : i think it depends on a lot more than IQ. self control and planning are arguably more important with trading ;p [2023-08-18 09:35:10] WinstonChurchill : jjhiijiji: yes and a high iq allows you to get a grasp of that quicker [2023-08-18 09:35:21] jjhiijiji : WinstonChurchill: ;) [2023-08-18 09:35:22] Hermite : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pXOGC-K5c8 [2023-08-18 09:35:24] bearmaster : jjhiijiji: Like not always being in the market [2023-08-18 09:35:33] bearmaster : It is underestimated to just watch, feel the price. [2023-08-18 09:35:34] 9figrs : most traders would have a similar path to success, its about repitition [2023-08-18 09:35:36] bearmaster : Smell the price. [2023-08-18 09:35:40] bearmaster : **wiff wiff** [2023-08-18 09:35:42] 9figrs : and who can stick it out the longest [2023-08-18 09:35:51] 9figrs : the guys that quit will never know the full potential [2023-08-18 09:35:56] DogeX : bearmaster: 😁 [2023-08-18 09:36:09] jjhiijiji : bearmaster: You can feel it. Listen, Bubbs, hear that? The sounds of the whispering winds of shit. [2023-08-18 09:36:18] MrBritcoin : jjhiijiji: trouble is people want money fast trading should be more as a pension in time an keep adding long hold day trading is different all together [2023-08-18 09:36:33] BigBadShort : DogeX: I am going to make 1 million dollars from 50 dollars until new year [2023-08-18 09:36:35] Hermite : 9figrs: he longed at 650 and is already at 600k loss, and I'm quite confident we are going down, hope he survives [2023-08-18 09:36:36] jjhiijiji : MrBritcoin: ye wanting to get rich quick is a big big common mistake [2023-08-18 09:36:43] jjhiijiji : MrBritcoin: one ive made many times ;) [2023-08-18 09:36:49] BigBadShort : 3 month to go :) [2023-08-18 09:37:17] 9figrs : Hermite: his liq 23700? guess we hit that at some point [2023-08-18 09:37:20] DogeX : BigBadShort: 😍:doge: [2023-08-18 09:37:31] BigBadShort : DogeX: trading non stop [2023-08-18 09:37:33] MrBritcoin : jjhiijiji: we all have got rekt any trader that says they havent is a liar [2023-08-18 09:37:37] Hermite : 9figrs: 😁 [2023-08-18 09:37:42] Dr.LongBear : BigBadShort: We started same ! 50 bucks left on january [2023-08-18 09:37:51] 9figrs : Hermite: his liq is literally the perfect price for the sweep [2023-08-18 09:37:53] Dr.LongBear : Almost x4 if I count my opnened position [2023-08-18 09:38:02] 9figrs : like his liquidation might quite literally be the local bottom [2023-08-18 09:38:07] DogeX : :doge: :doge: :doge: :doge: :doge: :doge: :doge: :doge: :doge: :doge: :doge: :doge: [2023-08-18 09:38:13] MrBritcoin : jjhiijiji: even steves got rekt 2016 he said for 43 btc i think he said it was [2023-08-18 09:38:18] DogeX : :doge: :doge: :doge: :doge: :doge: :doge: :doge: :doge: [2023-08-18 09:38:26] BigBadShort : Dr.LongBear: :doge: [2023-08-18 09:38:26] DogeX : :doge: :doge: :doge: :doge: :doge: :doge: :doge: :doge: [2023-08-18 09:38:26] jjhiijiji : MrBritcoin: dont listen to a word that guy tells you [2023-08-18 09:38:34] BigBadShort : DogeX: :doge: [2023-08-18 09:38:34] hehe MOON : MrBritcoin: StevenClown was probably excited he made profit on testnet sir [2023-08-18 09:38:36] bearmaster : 43 sats ye [2023-08-18 09:38:38] BigBadShort : WORMS! POWER! [2023-08-18 09:38:41] Dr.LongBear : BigBadShort: Activate streaming position if u want buddy, it's back ! [2023-08-18 09:38:52] DogeX : :doge: :doge: :doge: :doge: :doge: :doge: :doge: :doge: [2023-08-18 09:38:53] Dr.LongBear : Lol they deactivated for the dump or what [2023-08-18 09:39:02] Dr.LongBear : Maybe Bitmex was knowing everything in advance [2023-08-18 09:39:11] BigBadShort : Dr.LongBear: SCAMERS! [2023-08-18 09:39:16] MrBritcoin : jjhiijiji: there is some things he says thats true an others that a lie [2023-08-18 09:39:37] MrBritcoin : hehe MOON: 😏 [2023-08-18 09:39:52] hehe MOON : 😏 [2023-08-18 09:40:57] jjhiijiji : i used to spend about 3 bitcoins a month when i was in thailand ordering weed from silkroad back when it was 200 - 400 dollars per btc [2023-08-18 09:41:05] jjhiijiji : 2013 [2023-08-18 09:41:15] jjhiijiji : 2012 - 2013 [2023-08-18 09:41:38] Dr.LongBear : jjhiijiji: now you can smoke weed legally ! [2023-08-18 09:41:50] jjhiijiji : yeah... i left and a few years later its legalized ;/ [2023-08-18 09:42:58] jjhiijiji : my buddies are still there enjoying it i left when my first child was born though. how i miss it ;< [2023-08-18 09:42:58] BigBadShort : jjhiijiji: in thailand is it legal? [2023-08-18 09:43:06] jjhiijiji : BigBadShort: yes it was legalized past couple years [2023-08-18 09:43:10] Dr.LongBear : BigBadShort: it is [2023-08-18 09:43:15] jjhiijiji : BigBadShort: now its fully legal, u can go into a shop and just buy it [2023-08-18 09:43:27] jjhiijiji : BigBadShort: back when i was there ti was super illegal. like very strict [2023-08-18 09:43:41] BigBadShort : jjhiijiji: well probably people who spent 20 years in prison there feel not good after that law ;) [2023-08-18 09:43:52] jjhiijiji : yeah... and a lot of people did go to prison for that