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[2023-08-18 05:54:01] Joeyy132 : No lol dump only just started
[2023-08-18 05:54:12] Joeyy132 : Been tryna tell u
[2023-08-18 05:54:25] Joeyy132 : today is day 2 of the multi month dump
[2023-08-18 05:54:38] Joeyy132 : Enjoy it
[2023-08-18 05:54:46] BigBadShort : 30k eod
[2023-08-18 05:54:53] Joeyy132 : Rekt
[2023-08-18 05:54:55] BigBadShort : Werner confirmed
[2023-08-18 05:54:59] Joeyy132 : you should listen to jowy
[2023-08-18 05:55:36] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated short on `BOBUSD`: Buy 5000000 Cont @ 0.0000036 ($48,908.73) - Bonjour!
[2023-08-18 05:56:30] The_Reaper : multi month dump?
[2023-08-18 05:57:05] The_Reaper : Someone just dumped it to earn on a heavy short here
[2023-08-18 05:57:16] The_Reaper : it dumped exactly back to retest the descending breakout
[2023-08-18 05:57:21] The_Reaper : EXACTLY
[2023-08-18 05:58:29] Mikhaiil Gorbachev : helo frens
[2023-08-18 05:58:48] The_Reaper : https://prnt.sc/OZFh2SPrTgMS
[2023-08-18 05:59:03] DCZenon : Listen to Joey the hex shill.
[2023-08-18 05:59:07] The_Reaper : coincidence? i think not
[2023-08-18 05:59:09] DCZenon : He only wants the best for you
[2023-08-18 05:59:26] DCZenon : 🤡
[2023-08-18 05:59:56] Gandalf the Grey : My God nice night action lol
[2023-08-18 06:00:11] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated short on `XRPUSD`: Buy 10 Cont @ 0.4989 ($26.38)
[2023-08-18 06:01:20] bearmaster : People saying it's thanks to Elon are kidding themselves
[2023-08-18 06:01:28] bearmaster : That was planned :kek:
[2023-08-18 06:02:15] bmagic : The_Reaper: i thought you were Reaped yourself - you're back
[2023-08-18 06:03:25] BigBadShort : Gandalf the Grey: I am finished - Pizda
[2023-08-18 06:03:28] Mikhaiil Gorbachev : It will probably take a few days before I enter a new position
[2023-08-18 06:03:30] The_Reaper : bmagic: lol nah, i've been away for vacation
[2023-08-18 06:03:30] BigBadShort : :doge:
[2023-08-18 06:03:46] The_Reaper : and with like 0 movement past months, i cba
[2023-08-18 06:03:47] bmagic : The_Reaper: just kiddin! not a bad vacation time though - slowest 3 month cycle ever
[2023-08-18 06:03:49] BigBadShort : Gandalf the Grey: _I was there, Gandalf. I was there three thousand years ago. I was there the day the strength of Men failed._
[2023-08-18 06:03:52] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated short on `CYBERUSDT`: Buy 20 CYBER @ 4.5634 ($NaN) - Up only!
[2023-08-18 06:03:52] Mikhaiil Gorbachev : this looks like a big nono trade zone
[2023-08-18 06:03:59] bmagic : Mikhaiil Gorbachev: but sir you must
[2023-08-18 06:04:16] The_Reaper : someone big just sold
[2023-08-18 06:04:21] Mikhaiil Gorbachev : bmagic: I closed my 2 week position last night
[2023-08-18 06:04:24] Mikhaiil Gorbachev : no rush
[2023-08-18 06:04:48] bearmaster : SteveS.: Ah the folk that's gifted a guild is running the leaderboard?
[2023-08-18 06:04:51] bearmaster : Classic :kek:
[2023-08-18 06:05:24] Mikhaiil Gorbachev : taking a position here is pure pure gamble
[2023-08-18 06:05:26] bmagic : Mikhaiil Gorbachev: same - i had a 29400 short on this exchange i closed - my other exchange played out though but was a 50k short here
[2023-08-18 06:05:42] bmagic : all good - i'm bullish short term so stuck to my plan
[2023-08-18 06:05:54] bmagic : 33k incoming
[2023-08-18 06:06:00] bearmaster : This exchange wicked way harder.
[2023-08-18 06:06:02] Mikhaiil Gorbachev : bmagic: jesus! At what price did it close out?
[2023-08-18 06:06:10] bmagic : 28600
[2023-08-18 06:06:16] Mikhaiil Gorbachev : that hurts
[2023-08-18 06:06:19] bmagic : not really
[2023-08-18 06:06:24] Mikhaiil Gorbachev : but fuck it , profits are profits
[2023-08-18 06:06:28] bmagic : just my bitmex
[2023-08-18 06:06:33] bmagic : this is my small chance
[2023-08-18 06:06:41] Sukovsky : i 7xd my 100x short eth from 1848. closed
[2023-08-18 06:06:52] bmagic : i will make Bitmex my main trading in october
[2023-08-18 06:06:58] Mikhaiil Gorbachev : yee
[2023-08-18 06:07:09] bmagic : Sukovsky: well done man
[2023-08-18 06:07:09] The_Reaper : bearmaster: its because they sold spot, and sold here aswell, to get the porice where they want
[2023-08-18 06:07:17] Mikhaiil Gorbachev : I managed to catch the short from 29.450 - 24.999
[2023-08-18 06:07:20] The_Reaper : bearmaster: https://prnt.sc/OZFh2SPrTgMS this isn't coincidence
[2023-08-18 06:07:25] bmagic : Mikhaiil Gorbachev: sweeeet
[2023-08-18 06:07:28] Sukovsky : well played
[2023-08-18 06:07:30] Mikhaiil Gorbachev : yee
[2023-08-18 06:07:41] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated short on `BOBUSD`: Buy 5000000 Cont @ 0.0000036 ($49,006.59) - McDonald's is hiring
[2023-08-18 06:07:45] Mikhaiil Gorbachev : 150% ROI on a 10x trade
[2023-08-18 06:07:46] Mikhaiil Gorbachev : very nice
[2023-08-18 06:08:02] bearmaster : The_Reaper: I know it's not I knew folk that were long from there lol.
[2023-08-18 06:08:05] bmagic : The_Reaper: @Mikhaiil Gorbachev @Sukovsky https://www.tradingview.com/x/VKN9wBEe/
[2023-08-18 06:08:26] Mikhaiil Gorbachev : yee
[2023-08-18 06:08:47] Mikhaiil Gorbachev : scarred to go long here tbh. Gotta look at some more ideas
[2023-08-18 06:08:54] bmagic : i'd love a 25300 rebase
[2023-08-18 06:09:01] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated short on `BOBUSD`: Buy 5000000 Cont @ 0.0000035 ($48,994.70) - Another soul has been claimed
[2023-08-18 06:09:09] bmagic : /orders xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: Buy 13,000 USD @ 25638.5 XBTUSD: Buy 15,000 USD @ 24300 XBTUSD: Buy 15,000 USD @ 25300 ```
[2023-08-18 06:09:25] The_Reaper : we need to close daily above 26.6 here to not breakdwon
[2023-08-18 06:09:34] bmagic : The_Reaper: 25300 is my breakdown point
[2023-08-18 06:09:39] bmagic : i think close above is bullish
[2023-08-18 06:09:57] bmagic : 26.6 is outdated
[2023-08-18 06:10:10] bmagic : unless you're using trending support which isn't part of my strategy
[2023-08-18 06:10:27] The_Reaper : 26.6 coincides with trendline from 9nov 22
[2023-08-18 06:10:35] The_Reaper : :)
[2023-08-18 06:11:02] bmagic : https://www.tradingview.com/x/xouKAoxl/
[2023-08-18 06:11:09] bmagic : The_Reaper: ah i'm following Feb 2022
[2023-08-18 06:11:35] bmagic : i cut out a lot of noise after that because its entangled with world markets, especially US
[2023-08-18 06:12:19] Gandalf the Grey : Full bart up soon
[2023-08-18 06:12:31] Gandalf the Grey : Cowish manipulation
[2023-08-18 06:13:56] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 15000 USD @ 26579.5
[2023-08-18 06:14:45] bmagic : Gandalf the Grey: 25800 first
[2023-08-18 06:18:55] Gandalf the Grey : 26666 satan resist
[2023-08-18 06:19:59] Hermite : Gandalf the Grey: 👍
[2023-08-18 06:20:11] Hermite : Gandalf the Grey: 24k first
[2023-08-18 06:20:19] Hermite : then BART
[2023-08-18 06:20:54] bmagic : 25512.50 target
[2023-08-18 06:21:01] Gandalf the Grey : BOB huge volume increase
[2023-08-18 06:21:11] hehe MOON : BUY EVERY WEAK ASS DUMP, EZ
[2023-08-18 06:21:12] Gandalf the Grey : Maybe 1x for fun?
[2023-08-18 06:21:16] hehe MOON : :DOGE:
[2023-08-18 06:22:08] Hermite : hehe MOON: was a weak ass dump to you 30k to 24k?
[2023-08-18 06:23:12] bearmaster : Nobody rekt so we keep going
[2023-08-18 06:25:18] bearmaster : 19k > 42k
[2023-08-18 06:31:16] Gandalf the Grey : Well that giga drop had pretty low volume to be fair.
[2023-08-18 06:31:20] Gandalf the Grey : Cosidering the damege
[2023-08-18 06:31:28] petyx : bearmaster: there was second big liq event of last year 1b liquidated
[2023-08-18 06:33:39] BigBadShort : I got rekt
[2023-08-18 06:34:04] BigBadShort : Extremely dissapointed
[2023-08-18 06:34:41] bearmaster : petyx: The cleaner the better
[2023-08-18 06:34:47] BigBadShort : Dropped way harder than I expected. But not sure why did I have long position
[2023-08-18 06:34:53] bearmaster : Wipe all plebs off the books ser
[2023-08-18 06:37:14] RealBawlOfLasagna : BigBadShort: (not over yet)
[2023-08-18 06:38:07] Gandalf the Grey : focus on longo now
[2023-08-18 06:38:15] Gandalf the Grey : beara satiated for now
[2023-08-18 06:39:38] BigBadShort : RealBawlOfLasagna: you mean dump not over?
[2023-08-18 06:39:44] RealBawlOfLasagna : BigBadShort: yup
[2023-08-18 06:40:04] BigBadShort : scary
[2023-08-18 06:40:23] RealBawlOfLasagna : BigBadShort: Everything should look scary from here. KEK
[2023-08-18 06:45:10] Mr.Kazi : bulls, are you still alive? U were warned😆
[2023-08-18 06:45:35] bmagic : :pepe:
[2023-08-18 06:47:22] Mr.Kazi : confortable longs at 18k.. keeeek
[2023-08-18 06:49:14] bmagic : You da man right now
[2023-08-18 06:49:19] petyx : more dumps ahead
[2023-08-18 06:49:24] bmagic : fuck the game you got this
[2023-08-18 06:50:54] Andy RSA : bmagic: Are you still long
[2023-08-18 06:52:41] Gandalf the Grey : Did Winston survive?
[2023-08-18 06:53:49] bmagic : Andy RSA: you referring to my hedge?
[2023-08-18 06:54:07] bmagic : hell nah
[2023-08-18 06:54:17] bmagic : but i will be entering a long position soon
[2023-08-18 06:54:25] bmagic : 25300 retest would be nice
[2023-08-18 06:54:29] SteveS. : 22k next level down. Enjoy
[2023-08-18 06:54:34] Andy RSA : bmagic: lol, thats good
[2023-08-18 06:54:56] bmagic : Andy RSA: i wasn't exposed on yesterdays position - i just limited myself from doubling down
[2023-08-18 06:55:23] bmagic : i secured like 600 USD cost of that trade standalone
[2023-08-18 06:55:26] SteveS. : No recovery from here ...
[2023-08-18 06:55:44] Andy RSA : Anyone else having problems with the chart on their phone
[2023-08-18 06:55:50] bmagic : Andy RSA: always - just slow
[2023-08-18 06:55:58] bmagic : don't chart from your phone on bitmex
[2023-08-18 06:56:00] bmagic : use tradingview
[2023-08-18 06:56:04] SteveS. : Sub 266xx brike btc back
[2023-08-18 06:56:05] Gandalf the Grey : real mvp is bitmex smtp server lol
[2023-08-18 06:56:06] petyx : there will be no bounce for sure 21k the final flush on the way
[2023-08-18 06:56:14] SteveS. : Broke *
[2023-08-18 06:56:27] Andy RSA : bmagic: it doesnt even want to open
[2023-08-18 06:56:41] bmagic : Andy RSA: sounds like your phone - mine works
[2023-08-18 06:56:53] Gandalf the Grey : mine oo
[2023-08-18 06:56:55] Gandalf the Grey : too
[2023-08-18 06:57:00] SteveS. : Andy RSA: u dont need a chart Sir. Just follow Werner
[2023-08-18 06:57:04] SteveS. : Lol
[2023-08-18 06:57:08] Gandalf the Grey : xDDDD
[2023-08-18 06:57:52] Gandalf the Grey : Bull run cancelled I guess
[2023-08-18 06:57:53] Andy RSA : SteveS.: Will never follow him, knob
[2023-08-18 07:02:36] WinstonChurchill : WTF
[2023-08-18 07:02:44] hehe MOON : Hermite: my farts are stronger than bearas dumps
[2023-08-18 07:02:48] hehe MOON : **fact**
[2023-08-18 07:02:49] WinstonChurchill : 5200€+ on 1 trade
[2023-08-18 07:02:53] Gandalf the Grey : WinstonChurchill: Did you survive ser?
[2023-08-18 07:02:54] WinstonChurchill : Holyyyyyyy
[2023-08-18 07:02:57] WinstonChurchill : Omg
[2023-08-18 07:02:58] WinstonChurchill : Omg
[2023-08-18 07:03:08] Gandalf the Grey : You switched?
[2023-08-18 07:03:17] WinstonChurchill : I shorted 27780
[2023-08-18 07:03:54] WinstonChurchill : /position xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: 5,500 USD @ 25859.5 ```
[2023-08-18 07:04:04] Gandalf the Grey : Nice1!
[2023-08-18 07:04:05] WinstonChurchill : 1 order got filled
[2023-08-18 07:04:06] WinstonChurchill : Lmao
[2023-08-18 07:04:29] WinstonChurchill : Gandalf the Grey: what about you, sir.
[2023-08-18 07:06:01] Gandalf the Grey : I was sleeping lol
[2023-08-18 07:06:02] Gandalf the Grey : Did nothing
[2023-08-18 07:06:26] Gandalf the Grey : Had TP at 27.2k so way too high but at least something
[2023-08-18 07:06:30] Gandalf the Grey : KEK
[2023-08-18 07:06:35] WinstonChurchill : Lolll
[2023-08-18 07:07:00] hehe MOON : Hermite: 28k to 24k, compare to 15k to 32k **kek**
[2023-08-18 07:07:17] WinstonChurchill : This is the bottom
[2023-08-18 07:07:31] WinstonChurchill : We're going to 38k now
[2023-08-18 07:07:51] Sukovsky : err
[2023-08-18 07:07:58] Gandalf the Grey : brrrrrrrr
[2023-08-18 07:08:11] Gandalf the Grey : Lets make some money gentlemen
[2023-08-18 07:08:23] Gandalf the Grey : To make familia proud
[2023-08-18 07:08:31] Gandalf the Grey : Or at least not hungry!
[2023-08-18 07:08:32] petyx : its over cows Elon sold, ETF denied, Evergrande bankrupt
[2023-08-18 07:08:35] WinstonChurchill : Fk familia
[2023-08-18 07:08:51] WinstonChurchill : Im gonna spend it on drugs and hookers
[2023-08-18 07:09:03] Gandalf the Grey : But babushka makes tasty kompot kurwa
[2023-08-18 07:09:11] BigBadShort : It wont go lower than 24k
[2023-08-18 07:09:15] WinstonChurchill : Lame ass kompot
[2023-08-18 07:09:19] WinstonChurchill : Tastes like water
[2023-08-18 07:09:20] BigBadShort : 24 is a bottom
[2023-08-18 07:09:25] WinstonChurchill : :arthur
[2023-08-18 07:09:28] WinstonChurchill : :arthur:
[2023-08-18 07:09:51] WinstonChurchill : BigBadShort: now if you say it like that, im tempted to short again
[2023-08-18 07:11:14] BigBadShort : WinstonChurchill: Yes, should come back there again, but probably bottom
[2023-08-18 07:11:33] BigBadShort : Anyway, I go to get icecream now, need to think. I got liquidated ;(
[2023-08-18 07:12:00] Sukovsky : man up i get liqd every month
[2023-08-18 07:20:12] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated short on `BMEXUSD`: Buy 15 Cont @ 0.322 ($1.28)
[2023-08-18 07:30:16] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated short on `BOBUSD`: Buy 3922605 Cont @ 0.0000038 ($39,428.09) - Life is a bear trap
[2023-08-18 07:39:49] bmagic : Sukovsky: 😅
[2023-08-18 07:42:56] Gandalf the Grey : :arthur: wins every time
[2023-08-18 07:49:27] BigBadShort : Gandalf the Grey: I need few days now to recover my dep back. You earned this move?
[2023-08-18 07:52:21] WinstonChurchill : I earned like 50% of my all time losses back on that move lmao
[2023-08-18 07:53:21] WinstonChurchill : mmm we could fall deeper here
[2023-08-18 07:53:37] WinstonChurchill : 25k maybe
[2023-08-18 07:54:28] Hermite : https://youtu.be/2BRsq9hlBOQ?t=391
[2023-08-18 07:57:27] Hermite : hehe MOON: would you mind elaborating why you think we should buy all the "weak ass dumbs", there was a dump 30k to 29k, did you buy? What about 29k to 28k? If you did, it clearly tells a lot about your currently position. Maybe you want to buy now? What you are going to say when the price will drop to 24k?
[2023-08-18 08:00:06] jjhiijiji : morning
[2023-08-18 08:00:42] jjhiijiji : hermite you think were gonna go much lower than 24k?
[2023-08-18 08:01:19] Gandalf the Grey : We are up 9 percent from the bottom. Calm down lads
[2023-08-18 08:01:23] Gandalf the Grey : We lala
[2023-08-18 08:01:44] Hermite : hehe MOON: I would agree with you if you would trade spot, but the fact that you always here indicate that you are a leverage trader (if you actually trade at all, never seen a single trade from you). Such moves are designed to kill leverage traders, doesn't matter what leverage you have, it will get you.
[2023-08-18 08:02:42] WinstonChurchill : Hermite: :Arthur:
[2023-08-18 08:02:45] Hermite : jjhiijiji: based on logic, with high probability, yes, then BART is more likely.
[2023-08-18 08:03:07] WinstonChurchill : @hehe MOON yes, elaborate why buy week ass dumbs, noob
[2023-08-18 08:04:03] Sukovsky : i wouldnt base my charting on a big liq spike tho
[2023-08-18 08:06:33] Hermite : https://youtu.be/2BRsq9hlBOQ?t=391 @WinstonChurchill @Gandalf the Grey @jjhiijiji
[2023-08-18 08:06:57] WinstonChurchill : Hermite: lol
[2023-08-18 08:09:48] Luke Short : /position seiusdt ``` :bitmex: SEIUSDT: 43,800 SEI @ 0.1946681 ```
[2023-08-18 08:09:56] Luke Short : How fucked am i?
[2023-08-18 08:10:40] BigBadShort : Sukovsky: Hi Sukovsky! What is your short name?
[2023-08-18 08:11:19] jjhiijiji : Luke Short: not as fucked as i am m8 ;)
[2023-08-18 08:11:54] BigBadShort : Up only!
[2023-08-18 08:12:01] BigBadShort : Only up!!!!!!!!!
[2023-08-18 08:12:16] Luke Short : jjhiijiji: lol 😂 i was actually surprised in the morning that btc didn’t recover more
[2023-08-18 08:12:21] Luke Short : It‘s weird
[2023-08-18 08:13:16] BigBadShort : Luke Short: I was surprised that I got liquidated and we went back to my entry point!
[2023-08-18 08:13:31] BigBadShort : High lev is eveil
[2023-08-18 08:14:51] WinstonChurchill : Luke Short: wheres your liq
[2023-08-18 08:15:12] Luke Short : WinstonChurchill: 0,12
[2023-08-18 08:15:19] WinstonChurchill : Luke Short: pretty fkd
[2023-08-18 08:15:21] Gandalf the Grey : BigBadShort: Do not worry Elrond. The loss will be recovered. *MAYBE*
[2023-08-18 08:15:44] WinstonChurchill : Luke Short: I can see it go to 5 cents lol
[2023-08-18 08:17:05] WinstonChurchill : damn last time we were this oversold on the rsi was the corona dump kek
[2023-08-18 08:17:08] Luke Short : WinstonChurchill: yeah we‘ll see.. i rode the first pump from 0,18 to 0,27 and wanted to do it again but was too greed too early
[2023-08-18 08:17:34] Luke Short : WinstonChurchill: economic crisis is real Ser
[2023-08-18 08:17:37] WinstonChurchill : Luke Short: I think you might be okay, I would hold onto it, BTC is going to reverse
[2023-08-18 08:18:55] Luke Short : WinstonChurchill: yes I’ll wait for some serious indication.. to either cut losses or open some beers when te relieve-bullrun comes
[2023-08-18 08:19:13] funnyjon : Hi all, apologies if this has been asked, is there a problem with the graphs? I have had no graphs for the last 12 hours ?
[2023-08-18 08:19:23] WinstonChurchill : funnyjon: are you on chrome and phone
[2023-08-18 08:19:35] funnyjon : Safari on my mac
[2023-08-18 08:19:47] WinstonChurchill : is the graph gone entirely
[2023-08-18 08:20:05] WinstonChurchill : or is it not working
[2023-08-18 08:20:10] WinstonChurchill : with the red x thing
[2023-08-18 08:20:21] funnyjon : Just has fluttering blue rectangles in it's place, little bit like a 'waiting to load symbol'
[2023-08-18 08:20:28] WinstonChurchill : refresh the page
[2023-08-18 08:20:31] Luke Short : funnyjon: throw away your mac and buy a real computer Ser.
[2023-08-18 08:20:35] funnyjon : done that
[2023-08-18 08:20:40] WinstonChurchill : Luke Short: :ARthur:
[2023-08-18 08:20:45] funnyjon : Luke Short: haha ! Apple for life !!
[2023-08-18 08:20:56] WinstonChurchill : funnyjon: try to change the time frame and refresh the page again
[2023-08-18 08:21:29] funnyjon : WinstonChurchill: Doesn't even give you the option, it's like the frame isn't loading / connecting - never had it before !
[2023-08-18 08:21:40] WinstonChurchill : funnyjon: Go to Customize -> Reset layout
[2023-08-18 08:22:04] Luke Short : Maybe delete cache?
[2023-08-18 08:22:33] funnyjon : WinstonChurchill: tried
[2023-08-18 08:22:36] lazyzen : my frame of the trading graph on mex is white, why is that (I am using dark mode)
[2023-08-18 08:22:36] funnyjon : Luke Short: tried
[2023-08-18 08:23:12] WinstonChurchill : funnyjon: then its probably safari
[2023-08-18 08:23:17] Luke Short : funnyjon: Cache or safari
[2023-08-18 08:23:18] WinstonChurchill : try google chrome
[2023-08-18 08:23:25] WinstonChurchill : Luke Short: https://www.tradingview.com/x/ee6qIyY9
[2023-08-18 08:23:28] Luke Short : lazyzen: #me2
[2023-08-18 08:24:04] WinstonChurchill : lmao I just noticed the guild layouts hehe
[2023-08-18 08:24:18] funnyjon : WinstonChurchill: @Luke Short I will give Chrome a try, hate bloody chrome lol
[2023-08-18 08:24:25] WinstonChurchill : funnyjon: why hate chrome
[2023-08-18 08:24:52] MrBritcoin : all these new names got to be bots lol
[2023-08-18 08:25:06] WinstonChurchill : MrBritcoin: :doge:
[2023-08-18 08:25:15] WinstonChurchill : MrBritcoin: https://www.tradingview.com/x/ee6qIyY9
[2023-08-18 08:25:17] jjhiijiji : britcoin when 50k? ;<
[2023-08-18 08:25:20] WinstonChurchill : are you shorting 28k with me, sir?
[2023-08-18 08:25:34] WinstonChurchill : jjhiijiji: in 10 years
[2023-08-18 08:25:53] funnyjon : Luke Short: @WinstonChurchill Chrome worked thanks guys
[2023-08-18 08:26:03] WinstonChurchill : funnyjon: That would be 99,99$, sir.
[2023-08-18 08:26:09] WinstonChurchill : Did you think you would get off that easily, sir?
[2023-08-18 08:26:11] WinstonChurchill : WRONG!
[2023-08-18 08:27:14] funnyjon : WinstonChurchill: I just find it lumpy and less responsive plus being a Apple fanboy completely controlled by their eco system, phone, ipad, watch, tv, macbook, 2 mac minis then it is just handy as everything is synced all the time !
[2023-08-18 08:27:43] WinstonChurchill : funnyjon: is their tech really that much better
[2023-08-18 08:27:59] WinstonChurchill : I mean I only ever bought airpods(in 2015) and they still work today
[2023-08-18 08:28:01] funnyjon : WinstonChurchill: Ah, well if I hadn't been on a substantial long yesterday then I could have done that !
[2023-08-18 08:28:12] WinstonChurchill : hehe
[2023-08-18 08:28:53] Luke Short : funnyjon: to be honest i never had issues with safari on my iphone +1
[2023-08-18 08:29:09] funnyjon : WinstonChurchill: I personally think so, I have to use Windows (and android) for some work stuff and I hate it, it is so unintuitive compared to apple.
[2023-08-18 08:29:24] WinstonChurchill : funnyjon: interesting
[2023-08-18 08:29:29] funnyjon : Luke Short: Neither have I, been using Bitmex for years and years and first time I have ever had a problem
[2023-08-18 08:30:25] petyx : x100 short
[2023-08-18 08:30:35] MrBritcoin : https://www.tradingview.com/x/goFsyDKx/
[2023-08-18 08:30:40] Luke Short : funnyjon: if you are going to use windows - direclty install an adblocker on your browser. the constant pleasure of not seeing any ads while browsing will help you over the flaws ;)
[2023-08-18 08:30:48] WinstonChurchill : MrBritcoin: damn you cought an amazing long
[2023-08-18 08:30:52] WinstonChurchill : still holding?
[2023-08-18 08:30:58] WinstonChurchill : caught
[2023-08-18 08:39:37] Atlemos : Soo, who was that guy on Binance who loaded a 3 mill 5mins before nuke?
[2023-08-18 08:39:57] Atlemos : 5 mil short so down low
[2023-08-18 08:49:41] WinstonChurchill : Atlemos: me
[2023-08-18 08:49:51] WinstonChurchill : /pnl xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: -0.0001 XBT RPNL, 0.0051 XBT UPNL ```
[2023-08-18 08:49:52] WinstonChurchill : send it
[2023-08-18 08:49:59] Sukovsky : wut
[2023-08-18 08:50:09] Luke Short : nice breakout
[2023-08-18 08:50:13] WinstonChurchill : time for slimy green dildo anaconda snek attack
[2023-08-18 08:50:30] MrBritcoin : Big Win For Crypto As SEC Gives Green Light To Ether Futures ETFs Aug 18, 202309:44 GMT+1 The United States Securities Commission (SEC) is all set to greenlight the first exchange-traded funds (ETFs) based on Ether (ETH) futures in a big win for the crypto space. Nearly a dozen companies have expressed interest and filed applications with the SEC to launch ETFs.Big Win For Crypto
[2023-08-18 08:50:35] BigBadShort : UP ONLY!
[2023-08-18 08:51:05] Luke Short : Where is the big win on the Chart? :(
[2023-08-18 08:51:10] WinstonChurchill : MrBritcoin: link?
[2023-08-18 08:51:31] MrBritcoin : BigBadShort: 😮yes
[2023-08-18 08:51:50] Luke Short : Where is the big win for SEI network since it's the fastest crypto network ever made especially for exchanges/trading :(
[2023-08-18 08:52:01] Luke Short : there is no god anymore :(
[2023-08-18 08:52:14] WinstonChurchill : super duper breakout incoming
[2023-08-18 08:52:22] WinstonChurchill : /position xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: 5,500 USD @ 25859.5 ```
[2023-08-18 08:52:35] jjhiijiji : technicals dont matter. the markets crashed yesterday sending btc along with it
[2023-08-18 08:52:40] WinstonChurchill : https://www.tradingview.com/x/zsLKWxMl
[2023-08-18 08:52:42] WinstonChurchill : :doge:
[2023-08-18 08:52:56] jjhiijiji : s&p crashed, nasdaq crashed.. they all crashed. no bitcoin headlines is gonna change what the markets are doing
[2023-08-18 08:53:39] Luke Short : jjhiijiji: how is it it's always the FED's fault when i lose money????
[2023-08-18 08:53:51] jjhiijiji : stop reading bitcoin news and start reading news related to global markets, especially US markets, interest rates, fed policy, etc etc
[2023-08-18 08:53:51] MrBritcoin : jjhiijiji: for the kids bro its bullish news that
[2023-08-18 08:54:51] jjhiijiji : yeah its nice bullish news but that announcement came out before this nuke ;p the approval was given like a couple days ago or smth. reguardless of any good news if major US indeces are crashing no good news will stop btc from crashing with it.
[2023-08-18 08:55:04] MrBritcoin : https://cryptodaily.co.uk/2023/08/big-win-for-crypto-as-sec-gives-green-light-to-ether-futures-etfs
[2023-08-18 08:55:55] hehe MOON : mmm that funding
[2023-08-18 08:56:05] WinstonChurchill : wth 0.1%
[2023-08-18 08:56:13] MrBritcoin : hummm yes
[2023-08-18 08:56:14] WinstonChurchill : thats like an entire 2$
[2023-08-18 08:56:17] WinstonChurchill : excellent
[2023-08-18 08:56:23] MrBritcoin : /position xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: 27,600 USD @ 25184.8568 ```
[2023-08-18 08:56:35] hehe MOON : BUY EVERY WEAK ASS DUMP, EZ
[2023-08-18 08:56:37] WinstonChurchill : oh wow actually 6$...
[2023-08-18 08:56:39] hehe MOON : :DOGE:
[2023-08-18 08:56:40] WinstonChurchill : im rich now
[2023-08-18 08:56:44] WinstonChurchill : MrBritcoin: +1000
[2023-08-18 08:56:58] hehe MOON : WinstonChurchill: treat yourself to a cheeseburger
[2023-08-18 08:57:25] WinstonChurchill : hehe MOON: I will treat myself a monthly subscription of hehe MOON's saturday night's latex pleasure, sir.
[2023-08-18 08:57:38] jjhiijiji : we need to get over 26800 and stay there ;< please arthur.. for me... you know i love you
[2023-08-18 08:57:49] WinstonChurchill : jjhiijiji: 4 hourly looking good
[2023-08-18 08:58:05] WinstonChurchill : blast through 27200 and its done
[2023-08-18 08:58:09] hehe MOON : WinstonChurchill: i have a sale on my bottled farts sir
[2023-08-18 08:58:21] Hermite : hehe MOON: would you mind elaborating why you think we should buy all the "weak ass dumbs", there was a dump 30k to 29k, did you buy? What about 29k to 28k? If you did, it clearly tells a lot about your currently position. Maybe you want to buy now? What you are going to say when the price will drop to 24k?
[2023-08-18 08:58:26] hehe MOON : My farts are stronger than bearas dumps
[2023-08-18 08:58:27] Hermite : hehe MOON: I would agree with you if you would trade spot, but the fact that you always here indicate that you are a leverage trader (if you actually trade at all, never seen a single trade from you). Such moves are designed to kill leverage traders, doesn't matter what leverage you have, it will get you.
[2023-08-18 08:58:33] hehe MOON : **fact**
[2023-08-18 08:58:35] WinstonChurchill : hehe MOON: WHAT REALLY? I mean.. How disgusting! _orders 9 bottles_
[2023-08-18 08:58:49] WinstonChurchill : :pepeb:
[2023-08-18 08:59:05] lelskates : theres the dildo
[2023-08-18 08:59:13] lelskates : bears u love the cawk
[2023-08-18 08:59:17] WinstonChurchill : hehe MOON: elaborate big fat noob
[2023-08-18 08:59:26] hehe MOON : Hermite: you think its a strong dump from 28k to 24k?
[2023-08-18 08:59:39] jjhiijiji : you think its not?
[2023-08-18 08:59:45] WinstonChurchill : :Arthur:
[2023-08-18 08:59:48] hehe MOON : Hermite: compare it to 15k to 32k **kek**
[2023-08-18 08:59:48] Hermite : hehe MOON: can you please elaborate on this?
[2023-08-18 09:00:00] hehe MOON : Hermite: ^^
[2023-08-18 09:00:18] MrBritcoin : https://prnt.sc/NW0zsZUw6NYN
[2023-08-18 09:00:18] hehe MOON : *drops mic*
[2023-08-18 09:00:27] jjhiijiji : considering the dump happened in 5 minutes id say it was a fckin devastating dump. i think it gave me ptsd
[2023-08-18 09:01:12] Hermite : hehe MOON: if you don't trade and just hanging out here because there is nothing else for you to do, most of us are leverage traders here. So please explain to me how come buying at 30k, would be make me survive 6k dump so I can by more? @jjhiijiji
[2023-08-18 09:01:54] MrBritcoin : jjhiijiji: the next move will put you in a mental home then
[2023-08-18 09:01:54] jjhiijiji : well if ur only using 2x 3x leverage then you would survive
[2023-08-18 09:02:24] Hermite : jjhiijiji: if you use 3x leverage, you would be gone if the price dives under 20l
[2023-08-18 09:02:29] hehe MOON : Hermite: if you cant handle a 4k dump then you should move to testnet like StevenClown
[2023-08-18 09:02:30] jjhiijiji : yeah u said 6k dump
[2023-08-18 09:02:33] jjhiijiji : u meant 6k PRICE?
[2023-08-18 09:02:36] Hermite : jjhiijiji: and this is not unlikely
[2023-08-18 09:02:47] jjhiijiji : in that case only 1x survives ;p
[2023-08-18 09:02:58] jjhiijiji : i think 6k is unlikely
[2023-08-18 09:03:05] Hermite : jjhiijiji: then trade spot
[2023-08-18 09:03:17] Hermite : jjhiijiji: there is not need to be here, in fact it less safe
[2023-08-18 09:03:33] WinstonChurchill : bla bla bla
[2023-08-18 09:03:38] hehe MOON : Remember the days of 10k moves when :arthur: was here
[2023-08-18 09:03:38] WinstonChurchill : NEXT TARGET -> 9600$
[2023-08-18 09:03:42] hehe MOON : Good times
[2023-08-18 09:03:45] Hermite : hehe MOON: sure, let's do it setp by step, what leverage would you trade
[2023-08-18 09:04:05] hehe MOON : Hermite: 100x long full account no stop loss, EZ
[2023-08-18 09:04:13] hehe MOON : Weak ass bearas
[2023-08-18 09:04:21] hehe MOON : :doge:
[2023-08-18 09:04:22] Hermite : hehe MOON: this statement contradics what you have just said above
[2023-08-18 09:04:42] Hermite : hehe MOON: if you buy 100x, and the price dumps just 300 dollah, you are gone
[2023-08-18 09:04:55] Hermite : hehe MOON: how come you recommed buying it
[2023-08-18 09:05:22] Hermite : hehe MOON: I think you are a shitty person, buy know that his would REKT other traders, still recommeding it
[2023-08-18 09:05:29] hehe MOON : Hermite: thats why you hedge sir and buy every weak ass dump
[2023-08-18 09:05:41] Hermite : hehe MOON: you cannot hedge 100x
[2023-08-18 09:05:50] Hermite : hehe MOON: tell the scenario how you would do that
[2023-08-18 09:06:39] MrBritcoin : Hermite: 10x long 100x short on cross
[2023-08-18 09:06:48] MrBritcoin : 100xlong
[2023-08-18 09:07:02] Hermite : MrBritcoin: if you hold 100x, you have no margine to hedge
[2023-08-18 09:07:07] Hermite : MrBritcoin: plesae think
[2023-08-18 09:07:09] hehe MOON : Hermite: with profit targets of course
[2023-08-18 09:07:20] jjhiijiji : unless ur using 2 accounts ;p
[2023-08-18 09:07:42] Hermite : jjhiijiji: uless you have have another account, unless you hace more money etc etc
[2023-08-18 09:07:52] MrBritcoin : jjhiijiji: one futures one perpetual
[2023-08-18 09:07:57] Hermite : jjhiijiji: of course, there are nuances
[2023-08-18 09:07:57] jjhiijiji : man i dont think he was serious when he said 100x ur full account no stop
[2023-08-18 09:08:02] jjhiijiji : no point arguing with him
[2023-08-18 09:08:03] MrBritcoin : same account
[2023-08-18 09:08:10] Hermite : MrBritcoin: you cannot do that, if you trade 100x
[2023-08-18 09:08:18] MrBritcoin : try it for your self
[2023-08-18 09:08:37] Hermite : MrBritcoin: plus have you tried opening a poisitong as a hedge on non perpetual futures ?
[2023-08-18 09:08:37] hehe MOON : jjhiijiji: sir, we are all serious professional traders here sir . Except that StevenClown guy
[2023-08-18 09:08:47] hehe MOON : :arthur:
[2023-08-18 09:08:50] MrBritcoin : Hermite: try it as see where liq is sir
[2023-08-18 09:08:52] Hermite : MrBritcoin: try it out first
[2023-08-18 09:09:08] Hermite : MrBritcoin: if you will seen that it is not ez as you might think in theory
[2023-08-18 09:09:25] Hermite : MrBritcoin: the spread is huge, plus no liqudity
[2023-08-18 09:09:44] Hermite : MrBritcoin: @hehe MOON I am not sure what you guys are taling about
[2023-08-18 09:09:58] Hermite : MrBritcoin: @hehe MOON unless you want other traders here to get REKT
[2023-08-18 09:10:11] Hermite : MrBritcoin: @hehe MOON this is really sad
[2023-08-18 09:10:35] jjhiijiji : i dont think anyone really hedges 100x. if anything there are people with low leverage and using options/futures to hedge. i doubt anyone does 100x longs and hedge with 100x shorts
[2023-08-18 09:10:45] hehe MOON : Hermite: please be aware, you are speaking with the third best trader on the internet sir, after sen prof. and Werner
[2023-08-18 09:10:52] Hermite : jjhiijiji: you cannot, period.
[2023-08-18 09:11:08] jjhiijiji : but i think a lot of this convo was a joke anyway not a real arguement
[2023-08-18 09:11:12] jjhiijiji : they are just trolling on trollbox
[2023-08-18 09:11:15] Hermite : hehe MOON: show your track record if you are the best
[2023-08-18 09:11:25] jjhiijiji : 100x long ur whole account no stop? that s a trollbox comment dont take it seriously
[2023-08-18 09:11:31] Hermite : hehe MOON: because right now your intention is to get everyone REKT
[2023-08-18 09:11:31] hehe MOON : jjhiijiji: 🚬:me:
[2023-08-18 09:11:58] jjhiijiji : if anyone actually listens to a guy on trollbox telling them to 100x long their whole account then whos fault it is, hehe MOONs fault or the guy who initiated the trade?
[2023-08-18 09:12:24] Hermite : jjhiijiji: I just see that this guy @hehe MOON is a terrible person, that's all I can say.
[2023-08-18 09:12:24] DogeX : Yo yo :doge:
[2023-08-18 09:12:29] MrBritcoin : Hermite: you need to try it do it on xrp or something cheep or test net if thats still going on
[2023-08-18 09:12:42] hehe MOON : DogeX: 🦶:doge:
[2023-08-18 09:13:01] DogeX : hehe MOON: 💚😍:doge:
[2023-08-18 09:13:16] Fuun : u still look depressed, kids.
[2023-08-18 09:13:27] Fuun : is something wrong in your dead chat?
[2023-08-18 09:13:39] jjhiijiji : how many fckin fuuns am i gonna have to mute before it goes away?????
[2023-08-18 09:13:45] Fuun : u still dont have enough nicknames. :joy:
[2023-08-18 09:13:57] Hermite : MrBritcoin: I see that you speak form a theoretical perspective, sure In theory it all sound good.
[2023-08-18 09:14:11] 9figrs : where is winston
[2023-08-18 09:14:21] Fuun : but.
[2023-08-18 09:14:23] Dr.LongBear : Are mooning or what ?
[2023-08-18 09:14:27] Fuun : u are still tryin it.
[2023-08-18 09:14:29] Dr.LongBear : :doge:
[2023-08-18 09:14:33] Fuun : thats cute.
[2023-08-18 09:14:38] 9figrs : koreans are longing
[2023-08-18 09:14:41] 9figrs : still more downside to go
[2023-08-18 09:15:05] jjhiijiji : this must be like the 5th Fuun ive muted. either there is something wrong with the mute function or she has like a dozen accounts or smth
[2023-08-18 09:15:24] Fuun : just try it smarter.
[2023-08-18 09:15:33] MrBritcoin : Hermite: yes they basicaly cancel each other out
[2023-08-18 09:15:35] Fuun : not the hard way.
[2023-08-18 09:15:42] Hermite : 9figrs: you can see in real time how he traded the dump https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WK12nDufDyU
[2023-08-18 09:16:04] Dr.LongBear : CATAPULTAPUMPA !
[2023-08-18 09:16:17] Hermite : MrBritcoin: that is the purpose of hedging mate.. that's how it supposed to work.
[2023-08-18 09:16:29] 9figrs : Hermite: i dont look too much into these guys, but its always good to check every now and then
[2023-08-18 09:16:44] MrBritcoin : Hermite: yea of cores
[2023-08-18 09:17:06] Hermite : MrBritcoin: in practice however it is not as easy, please give it a try...
[2023-08-18 09:18:14] DogeX : MrBritcoin: yo yo :doge:
[2023-08-18 09:18:19] jjhiijiji : hedging actually is widely used with high capital traders. just not on 100x
[2023-08-18 09:18:23] DogeX : Hermite: :doge:
[2023-08-18 09:18:26] Dr.LongBear : ** ALL THE WAY UP **
[2023-08-18 09:18:31] DogeX : Dr.LongBear: :doge:
[2023-08-18 09:18:41] Dr.LongBear : DogeX: :doge::doge::doge:
[2023-08-18 09:18:48] Hermite : DogeX: @Dr.LongBear have you guys survived the drump?
[2023-08-18 09:19:01] DogeX : Hermite: no 😭
[2023-08-18 09:19:07] jjhiijiji : i didnt. im dead.
[2023-08-18 09:19:11] Dr.LongBear : jjhiijiji: @Hermite @9figrs @hehe MOON @WinstonChurchill :catjam::doge::catjam::doge::catjam::doge:
[2023-08-18 09:19:17] jjhiijiji : longbeeeear
[2023-08-18 09:19:24] DogeX : jjhiijiji: me to 😭
[2023-08-18 09:19:28] Hermite : DogeX: @jjhiijiji same here
[2023-08-18 09:19:31] jjhiijiji : here to see my last moments before i get liqd?
[2023-08-18 09:19:44] Dr.LongBear : Hermite: I REKT my pos of 0.0002 XBT then I shorted right before that terrible 5 min candle and got it back !
[2023-08-18 09:19:52] Dr.LongBear : That was hell of a ride
[2023-08-18 09:19:58] Hermite : DogeX: you don't show your trades anymore ? 😁
[2023-08-18 09:20:01] WinstonChurchill : Dr.LongBear: :ARthur:
[2023-08-18 09:20:03] WinstonChurchill : Congrats, sir.
[2023-08-18 09:20:10] jjhiijiji : Hermite: /pnl xbtusd
[2023-08-18 09:20:13] Dr.LongBear : tyy
[2023-08-18 09:20:14] jjhiijiji : /pnl xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: -0.0006 XBT RPNL, -0.0515 XBT UPNL ```
[2023-08-18 09:20:16] jjhiijiji : weeeeee
[2023-08-18 09:20:16] Hermite : Dr.LongBear: 😀 congrads
[2023-08-18 09:20:18] MrBritcoin : Hermite: right use cross 100 contracts long 100 short futures you add to the loosing trade wich keeps you close to market price whilst your other is making a profit an at some point there both be in gains
[2023-08-18 09:20:21] WinstonChurchill : jjhiijiji: damn
[2023-08-18 09:20:29] WinstonChurchill : jjhiijiji: What is the entry
[2023-08-18 09:20:32] Dr.LongBear : Are guild pos back ? I saw a msg from Pez in the night
[2023-08-18 09:20:38] jjhiijiji : a retarded one :)
[2023-08-18 09:20:42] Hermite : MrBritcoin: yes, have to tried actually doing it?
[2023-08-18 09:20:46] jjhiijiji : 29.2k @WinstonChurchill
[2023-08-18 09:20:54] jjhiijiji : WinstonChurchill: im proper fooked innit
[2023-08-18 09:20:59] Hermite : jjhiijiji: oh wow
[2023-08-18 09:21:14] jjhiijiji : its fine im adding more margin later today
[2023-08-18 09:21:16] Dr.LongBear : jjhiijiji: long or short ?
[2023-08-18 09:21:18] WinstonChurchill : jjhiijiji: lmao that 292 resistance
[2023-08-18 09:21:20] MrBritcoin : Hermite: yes i have
[2023-08-18 09:21:22] jjhiijiji : will lower my liq to under 20k's
[2023-08-18 09:21:30] WinstonChurchill : jjhiijiji: I mean if it broke we would be sitting at 38k probably
[2023-08-18 09:21:35] DogeX : Hermite: realy I re did it somone turnd it off
[2023-08-18 09:21:39] WinstonChurchill : tough times
[2023-08-18 09:21:49] jjhiijiji : WinstonChurchill: i thought we would go to 32k before le damp. i was wrong
[2023-08-18 09:21:51] jjhiijiji : ;D
[2023-08-18 09:21:58] Dr.LongBear : dammit
[2023-08-18 09:21:59] DogeX : WinstonChurchill: :doge: :doge: :doge:
[2023-08-18 09:22:02] Hermite : MrBritcoin: how much you paied for the hedge ?
[2023-08-18 09:22:05] jjhiijiji : its fine, no biggie. ill survive
[2023-08-18 09:22:06] WinstonChurchill : jjhiijiji: you survived the 24k dump though
[2023-08-18 09:22:14] WinstonChurchill : you must be <5x lev then
[2023-08-18 09:22:21] jjhiijiji : yeah ofcourse
[2023-08-18 09:22:28] WinstonChurchill : DogeX: :doge: :Doge: :Doge: :Doge: :Doge: :doge: :doge: :Doge: :doge
[2023-08-18 09:22:30] jjhiijiji : im gonna add more today so i can be at least at 2.5x
[2023-08-18 09:22:36] jjhiijiji : if needed ill add more and go down to 2x
[2023-08-18 09:22:48] Hermite : DogeX: oh you are right!
[2023-08-18 09:23:04] jjhiijiji : and hopefully by next year ill be back in the green ;p
[2023-08-18 09:23:53] jjhiijiji : im just building up a very long term long slowly
[2023-08-18 09:23:55] Dr.LongBear : Hermite: You can turn stream pos again if u want
[2023-08-18 09:24:07] Dr.LongBear : I all have been disabled I only see DogeX
[2023-08-18 09:24:13] Dr.LongBear : it*
[2023-08-18 09:24:30] Hermite : Dr.LongBear: Let me turn it on, but I need to deposit first 😜
[2023-08-18 09:24:40] 9figrs : WinstonChurchill: are you longing or shorting?
[2023-08-18 09:24:43] MrBritcoin : Hermite: well you cant lock it down really its all about when you close if you got deep pockests you just keep adding to the loosing trade an when market puts both in profit you close
[2023-08-18 09:24:45] WinstonChurchill : /position xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: 5,500 USD @ 25859.5 ```
[2023-08-18 09:24:48] MrBritcoin : both
[2023-08-18 09:24:53] Dr.LongBear : Hehe no pb, don't feel any obligation of doing so :)
[2023-08-18 09:24:56] Dr.LongBear : We have all the time
[2023-08-18 09:25:02] 9figrs : Hermite: also hopefully that korean guy stays in his long lol his 23700 liq will be taken
[2023-08-18 09:25:05] petyx : situation is ultra bearish 21k is granted
[2023-08-18 09:25:28] 9figrs : Hermite: pretty sure that korean guy leaves his stream on over the weekend so likely he stays in that trade = we going lower