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<< >> English 中文 Русский 한국어 日本語 Español Français [2023-08-07 01:44:47] Finnic99 : IN uk [2023-08-07 01:45:02] Finnic99 : hnd is 2/3 university certificate [2023-08-07 01:45:12] Finnic99 : lol :P [2023-08-07 01:45:15] Hermite : elChisoso: take a look at this paper https://arxiv.org/abs/2306.06087 [2023-08-07 01:45:48] Finnic99 : elChisoso: Ive thought about going back but there are alternative paths to reach good career positions [2023-08-07 01:46:08] Finnic99 : known of plenty reach people with no degree [2023-08-07 01:46:12] Finnic99 : rich* [2023-08-07 01:46:14] Hermite : Finnic99: finish your BS in any quantitative field, trust it will with it, also it is super fun, even if your lectures suck [2023-08-07 01:46:16] elChisoso : Hermite: Such things is interesting though. I will read. [2023-08-07 01:46:37] Finnic99 : Hermite: I failed the final year twice :? [2023-08-07 01:46:38] Finnic99 : :/ [2023-08-07 01:46:54] Finnic99 : dont want to go back and miss it a 3rd time [2023-08-07 01:47:19] Rectile the reptile : btc is a good stable coion with a volume of multi trillions [2023-08-07 01:47:20] elChisoso : Finnic99: Very common is the rich people are just plain stupid but have a sense of business. [2023-08-07 01:47:47] Finnic99 : elChisoso: true story [2023-08-07 01:47:49] elChisoso : Smart people tend to overcomplicate basic things like "its high, sell" and "its low, buy". [2023-08-07 01:48:17] Finnic99 : exactly! thats what I say about trading! people overcomplicate it so much [2023-08-07 01:48:26] Hermite : Finnic99: I failed some of my courses too. For example I failed stochastic differential equations course(SDE), just got an F, then asked for retakining it and got another F. Se La vie! [2023-08-07 01:48:46] Hermite : and SDE is crucial in modelling financial markets [2023-08-07 01:49:06] Finnic99 : Hermite: :/ [2023-08-07 01:49:14] Finnic99 : one can always start their own company I guess [2023-08-07 01:49:15] Hermite : Failed at the top 10 US University [2023-08-07 01:49:24] Hermite : who cares just keep doing it [2023-08-07 01:49:25] elChisoso : That is also why bots are usually more successfull, long run, they get a signal, they act. They profit on the exact same rules, every time, over and over again. [2023-08-07 01:49:41] Finnic99 : Hermite: similar sort of thing for me [2023-08-07 01:50:14] Finnic99 : elChisoso: what do you think of intuition in trading? [2023-08-07 01:51:16] Finnic99 : Often I make the best decisions using it ... There is some underlying theory on why to make the trade but it's not describable [2023-08-07 01:51:35] elChisoso : Finnic99: I think its not bad, but unless they are the ones that moves the market, they will average in while price lowers, and they will average out when it rises. Its the only way to do it with large positions. [2023-08-07 01:51:53] Hermite : Finnic99: I am not @elChisoso but intuition is super important, but what is more important, is to be able to explain it, or try your best in explaining it. [2023-08-07 01:52:28] Hermite : /orders xbtusd @Finnic99 ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: Sell 500 USD @ 29474.5 XBTUSD: Sell 500 USD @ 29330.5 XBTUSD: Sell 500 USD @ 29404 ``` [2023-08-07 01:52:55] Finnic99 : Hermite: from my last short I used a combination of price deceleration and zonal resistance I'd say [2023-08-07 01:53:01] Hermite : If it won’t go there, will try to exit at the BE [2023-08-07 01:53:07] elChisoso : I am curious to see what the rice eaters will do with price now when they open, it will decide how I will target the upcoming week. [2023-08-07 01:53:12] Finnic99 : but I would call that intuition [2023-08-07 01:53:20] Finnic99 : if I wasn't to think why sort of thing [2023-08-07 01:53:26] Hermite : elChisoso: rice eaters haha I eat rice [2023-08-07 01:53:46] Finnic99 : Hermite: we might go there but I think we may continue to go sideways [2023-08-07 01:53:58] elChisoso : Hermite: Yeah that was a bad one, i mean asia of course. Here in europe were potato eaters. :) [2023-08-07 01:54:11] Finnic99 : reason why we will continue to go sideways : @Hermite [2023-08-07 01:54:26] Hermite : Finnic99: **It’s enough**❕ [2023-08-07 01:54:54] Finnic99 : Hermite: https://www.tradingview.com/x/oze3qUUP [2023-08-07 01:54:57] Finnic99 : see these 2 wicks [2023-08-07 01:55:23] Finnic99 : It would be uncommon for us to surpass those levels without some more time passing [2023-08-07 01:55:38] elChisoso : Sideway action is something I do value, it tests patience. Most people tend to be impatient with sideways action, starts gamble. Once price loses grip/range, it will move against most people. [2023-08-07 01:55:49] Finnic99 : at least 15 - 20 hours @Hermite [2023-08-07 01:56:00] Finnic99 : based on how long these sideways ranges have been lasting recently [2023-08-07 01:56:25] elChisoso : I also have a theory about bigger wicks, and that is that wicks always get's retested sooner or later. [2023-08-07 01:56:29] Hermite : elChisoso: l know mate, until I moved out from my parents quite long time ago I was eating potatoes almost every day haha [2023-08-07 01:56:54] Hermite : elChisoso: now it is rice haha [2023-08-07 01:57:14] Finnic99 : Hermite: https://www.tradingview.com/x/u1ryB2sq [2023-08-07 01:57:30] Finnic99 : I think we are repeating a similar sort of pattern as the previous cicrcled range [2023-08-07 01:57:35] Hermite : Finnic99: I don’t feel we are going back that soon mate [2023-08-07 01:57:35] Finnic99 : specifically 31st july [2023-08-07 01:57:38] elChisoso : Hermite: I avoid most carbs since a few years, not all, love my beer. But need to stay in shape as much as possible. [2023-08-07 01:58:24] Finnic99 : Hermite: agreed. 20 hours absolute min but likely several days [2023-08-07 01:58:47] Hermite : elChisoso: look at this guy, here is 55! https://youtu.be/nkBJzfHpq_A @Finnic99 [2023-08-07 01:59:10] Hermite : elChisoso: can you look like this when you are 55❔ @Finnic99 [2023-08-07 01:59:36] Finnic99 : Hermite: tiesto is one of my favs [2023-08-07 01:59:50] Rectile the reptile : when is this 10 $ bullrun over [2023-08-07 01:59:50] elChisoso : Hermite: Already been 55, cannot properly answer your question. [2023-08-07 02:00:05] Finnic99 : Hermite: maybe if I eat healthily and exercise :P [2023-08-07 02:00:21] Hermite : And that’s his wife https://www.dreshare.com/annika-backes/ [2023-08-07 02:00:39] Finnic99 : Hermite: https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=tiesto+drifting have you heard tiesto drifting [2023-08-07 02:00:40] Finnic99 : ? [2023-08-07 02:00:47] RealBawlOfLasagna : elChisoso: Best week inc [2023-08-07 02:01:05] Hermite : elChisoso: respect to you then for taking care of yourself!! Have your tried CRD❔ [2023-08-07 02:01:30] elChisoso : RealBawlOfLasagna: You sounde extensivly positive today? [2023-08-07 02:01:47] elChisoso : Hermite: Nah, I just keep it simple, eat good, not to much. [2023-08-07 02:01:52] Hermite : Finnic99: I think we will fly soon [2023-08-07 02:02:07] Rectile the reptile : Hermite: the 10 $ bullrun is not over [2023-08-07 02:02:21] Hermite : elChisoso: you’ve heard about CRD haven’t you❔ [2023-08-07 02:02:24] elChisoso : Hermite: A lot of foods containing high concentration of protein and healthy fats. [2023-08-07 02:02:35] Rectile the reptile : 1 pudding end of christmas [2023-08-07 02:02:46] elChisoso : Hermite: https://crd.org/ ? [2023-08-07 02:03:02] Finnic99 : Hermite: whats your reasoning? [2023-08-07 02:03:15] elChisoso : Doesnt seem right, so my answer will be no. [2023-08-07 02:03:37] elChisoso : Rectile the reptile: Bulls will only afford cheapest box of crackers mate. [2023-08-07 02:04:07] Rectile the reptile : 10 $ bullrun will take months [2023-08-07 02:04:15] Rectile the reptile : if not years to play out [2023-08-07 02:06:54] Hermite : elChisoso: The researchers found that people who cut their calories slowed the pace of their aging by 2% to 3%, compared to people who were on a normal diet. That translates, Belsky said, to a 10% to 15% reduction in the likelihood of dying early. [2023-08-07 02:07:13] Hermite : https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna69562 [2023-08-07 02:09:50] Rectile the reptile : bullrun to 12k [2023-08-07 02:10:00] elChisoso : Hermite: Oh, no i was not aware. I just felt that carbs does not really help as you grow older. [2023-08-07 02:10:09] elChisoso : Everyone is different though. [2023-08-07 02:10:38] RealBawlOfLasagna : Hermite: Eat well, stay in shape, avoid too much exposition to UV's and most people will fail to determine your age. Bonus: there is no downside. [2023-08-07 02:11:02] Hermite : elChisoso: I’ve quite a bit of research and developed methods for biological age estimation. CRD is one of the methods that work. [2023-08-07 02:11:44] elChisoso : Hermite: Thats cool. But all in all, i would not like to know how many more years I have or not have. That would ruin the surprise at the end. [2023-08-07 02:12:03] elChisoso : As long as the head and body works, i am all good. [2023-08-07 02:12:23] elChisoso : I do software development in order to keep my brain active. [2023-08-07 02:12:47] Hermite : *I’ve done [2023-08-07 02:13:51] elChisoso : Hermite: I have realized you do like to read a lot of science, or do science. All respect to you for being curious, thats how we move forward. I just try to keep things simple and easy, trying not to overcomplicate things to a level where it is absurd. [2023-08-07 02:14:21] Hermite : elChisoso: no worries [2023-08-07 02:15:02] elChisoso : Hermite: Easy and simple works amazingly well in life. :) [2023-08-07 02:15:52] Hermite : elChisoso: haha true [2023-08-07 02:16:53] Hermite : Finnic99: no, you’re right. It seems I should have closed my long. [2023-08-07 02:17:43] Finnic99 : Hermite: it could climb to 29130 again [2023-08-07 02:19:13] $wan : Eating liquid iodine every day clears the head and expels fluoride and bromine accumulated in the body. [2023-08-07 02:19:42] elChisoso : I can see us moving to 29500 for now, once there, I will work out the next steps. Anyhow, im off, see you at London open. [2023-08-07 02:20:13] Hermite : Finnic99: I think it’s a new trading region, will stay for some time [2023-08-07 02:21:12] Finnic99 : Hermite: maybe 29080-29170 [2023-08-07 02:21:19] Hermite : 100~200 [2023-08-07 02:22:06] Hermite : Finnic99: it goes to 250, I’d say it’s a long [2023-08-07 02:22:27] Werner : fookin stupid bears [2023-08-07 02:22:32] Werner : were werned [2023-08-07 02:22:37] Werner : multiple times [2023-08-07 02:22:41] Werner : by multiple sources [2023-08-07 02:23:45] $wan : 🚀🚀🚀 [2023-08-07 02:25:16] BigBadShort : Lord @MrBritcoin [2023-08-07 02:27:26] Hermite : $wan: 🚀 [2023-08-07 02:27:35] $wan : :doge: [2023-08-07 02:33:47] Hermite : Get ready for the launch https://youtu.be/stjKzFPSW5Y 🚀 [2023-08-07 02:34:45] Hermite : 3… 2… 1… lift off [2023-08-07 02:39:56] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated short on `BCHUSD`: Buy 5733 Cont @ 225.25 ($37,616.82) - McDonald's is hiring [2023-08-07 02:41:47] Dessos : >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=delAHGidUL4 https://www.tradingview.com/x/ypyWVa8A/ [2023-08-07 02:50:11] Hermite : Sqeeeeeeze 🚀🚀🚀 [2023-08-07 02:50:19] Hermite : it [2023-08-07 02:51:20] Hermite : Just 30 bucks up and it will ignite 🚀❕❕❕ [2023-08-07 02:51:46] Hermite : 💥💥💥 [2023-08-07 02:53:27] Hermite : https://youtu.be/wXPlxV4fO9A [2023-08-07 03:01:37] Finnic99 : /position xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: 12,000 USD @ 29159.5347 ``` [2023-08-07 03:02:25] Fuun : who are u tools talkin too? [2023-08-07 03:02:39] Fuun : besides your gang is nobody around. [2023-08-07 03:03:01] Hermite : Finnic99: 😲 you flipped❓❔ [2023-08-07 03:03:27] Finnic99 : Hermite: yuppp way too bullish the way it bounced off 29100 [2023-08-07 03:03:46] Hermite : Finnic99: I hope you are mate [2023-08-07 03:04:23] Fuun : but u are probably not smart enough. [2023-08-07 03:04:39] Fuun : sometimes it takes time to see it. [2023-08-07 03:04:49] Hermite : I am now in the middle of making a decision 😶 [2023-08-07 03:05:21] Hermite : Finnic99: 250 is a critical price here [2023-08-07 03:05:38] Fuun : sad to be a useless influencer in a dead chat. [2023-08-07 03:05:46] Fuun : but good for us. [2023-08-07 03:05:58] Hermite : Finnic99: I don’t like that we can’t cross the 200 [2023-08-07 03:06:07] Fuun : we can simply repeat stupido stuff. [2023-08-07 03:06:22] Fuun : and even hurt u kids with it. [2023-08-07 03:06:36] RABSON : Fuun: you suck ass [2023-08-07 03:06:39] Fuun : after u are always busy with acting like u dont care. [2023-08-07 03:06:43] Fuun : its funny. [2023-08-07 03:06:58] Fuun : so, anything to say? [2023-08-07 03:07:04] Fuun : :joy: [2023-08-07 03:07:07] Hermite : Finnic99: I meant to say I hope you’re right [2023-08-07 03:07:10] RABSON : stfo [2023-08-07 03:07:15] RABSON : stfu [2023-08-07 03:07:26] RABSON : Fuun: ! [2023-08-07 03:07:50] Hermite : The 3 times rejection looks suspicious [2023-08-07 03:07:57] Fuun : oh and again. [2023-08-07 03:08:06] Fuun : who are u tools talkin too? [2023-08-07 03:08:10] Fuun : :joy: [2023-08-07 03:08:39] RABSON : Fuun: you got ass sweat dripping off your face cheeks [2023-08-07 03:09:04] Hermite : Also the 30 bucks squeeze was massive but it didn’t help @Finnic99 [2023-08-07 03:12:47] Bubblemania : It may end up at 25, be careful. Similar PA was going down from 25k to 19.5K. It stayed at 22 - 22,5a couple of days 3 to 7 March, then boom [2023-08-07 03:13:22] RABSON : couple is 2 [2023-08-07 03:14:53] JokerMate : Hey look, volume :P [2023-08-07 03:15:52] JokerMate : Hermite: tripple top is better or worse than a double [2023-08-07 03:16:53] Hermite : JokerMate: tripe rejection and the green volume is caused by closing the shorts [2023-08-07 03:17:20] JokerMate : Hermite: Sounds like shaking out weak hands, liq grab [2023-08-07 03:17:33] Hermite : JokerMate: let’s see [2023-08-07 03:17:57] JokerMate : Hermite: who knows, im holding a short from a week ago, and just waiting. [2023-08-07 03:19:17] petyx : 18k is still in play [2023-08-07 03:19:40] Hermite : No legitimate buy volume at all [2023-08-07 03:19:43] JokerMate : petyx: That would be pretty catastrophic. Alts are already so weak [2023-08-07 03:20:00] petyx : JokerMate: all alts are scam and eventualy going to zero [2023-08-07 03:20:07] JokerMate : petyx: How will i close my short then [2023-08-07 03:20:29] petyx : there is only US dolla all other is his derivatives and scams [2023-08-07 03:20:51] JokerMate : https://www.tradingview.com/chart/USDT/CAuaNRwQ-Stablecoins-Predicting-Bitcoin-DUMP-100-Accurate-Signal/CAuaNRwQ I keep thinking about this idea tbh [2023-08-07 03:21:07] JokerMate : petyx: esp when the dolla is mentioned [2023-08-07 03:23:31] Hermite : Shit I am glad I am out my long. [2023-08-07 03:24:04] Hermite : Going to observe what’s next, something tells the bull run is over. [2023-08-07 03:25:02] Hermite : Might short in a bit, if we go above 200 then will long [2023-08-07 03:25:24] Finnic99 : hmmmm [2023-08-07 03:26:06] Finnic99 : I think we will remain in the 29080-29180 range [2023-08-07 03:26:20] Finnic99 : move above is still possibblleeee [2023-08-07 03:26:27] Bubblemania : This scheme doesnt trade like forex but like commodity bubbles, you need to see whole context, not just present days [2023-08-07 03:27:00] Finnic99 : Bubblemania: agree. start on monthly then zoom in from there [2023-08-07 03:27:05] Hermite : Finnic99: for sure, I am being to accumulating a short, around 200 will decide where to flip [2023-08-07 03:27:10] Hermite : /position xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: -500 USD @ 29134 ``` [2023-08-07 03:32:45] petyx : keep this cocksuckin coin hyper dumpin [2023-08-07 03:34:15] JokerMate : Alts are already showing weakness... [2023-08-07 03:45:46] Hermite : JokerMate: Cardano is the best investment among alts [2023-08-07 03:47:41] Hermite : The sell pressure is too massive, they don’t even allow to accumulate shorts [2023-08-07 03:49:05] noom : petyx: hyper pump 😏 [2023-08-07 03:49:36] petyx : noom: neva EVA above 30k this year [2023-08-07 03:50:29] noom : petyx: 60k eoy [2023-08-07 03:50:58] JokerMate : Hermite:Many alts are super oversold, but with alts that means nothing sadly [2023-08-07 03:52:57] Hermite : JokerMate: I don’t trade alts, but if I did, I would have chose the ones with strong academic teams, Cardano is the one ;) [2023-08-07 03:53:42] Hermite : 28830 is next the target? What are your thoughts chat? [2023-08-07 03:59:35] Finnic99 : What do you guys think of the fact that the futures price is now above the spot price? [2023-08-07 03:59:48] noom : :doge: [2023-08-07 04:00:05] Finnic99 : do you see it as a sign of more demand on futures? Or "too many longs" [2023-08-07 04:00:32] Finnic99 : noom: :dogeL [2023-08-07 04:00:35] Finnic99 : :doge: [2023-08-07 04:00:59] Finnic99 : /position xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: 15,000 USD @ 29156.389 ``` [2023-08-07 04:01:43] Rectile the reptile : wait the 2 cent bullrun [2023-08-07 04:01:53] Rectile the reptile : in one weak this massive run is finished [2023-08-07 04:04:11] Rectile the reptile : Hermite: current price 29256 next target : 29256.1 btc 29256 end of bullrun btc 29255 end of bearruin [2023-08-07 04:04:27] Rectile the reptile : btc 29257 end of halving [2023-08-07 04:04:37] Hermite : Rectile the reptile: I love it mate 🤡 [2023-08-07 04:05:28] Rectile the reptile : Hermite: its just massive what trillions of volume are doing with country regulated price [2023-08-07 04:05:42] Rectile the reptile : the 1 dollar bullrun is coming [2023-08-07 04:05:48] Rectile the reptile : and it will be massive [2023-08-07 04:07:28] Hermite : Rectile the reptile: hahaha 😝 [2023-08-07 04:08:17] Hermite : Finnic99: I see where you coming from, what’s your target ⁉️ [2023-08-07 04:08:52] Finnic99 : Hermite: 46k first target [2023-08-07 04:09:00] Finnic99 : Hermite: but I will close if it goes up then rejects [2023-08-07 04:09:27] Finnic99 : have other account to scalp for when I'm in swing trade [2023-08-07 04:10:07] Finnic99 : I feel like now is the time to enter swing... not sure there will be an opportunity to buy 28.5k [2023-08-07 04:10:27] Finnic99 : today I turned much more bullish macro [2023-08-07 04:10:43] Finnic99 : we built new support in the 29000-28900 range [2023-08-07 04:10:48] Finnic99 : another support at 28750 [2023-08-07 04:10:49] Finnic99 : etc [2023-08-07 04:11:03] Finnic99 : also we have managed to hold above 29k for ages now ! [2023-08-07 04:11:16] Finnic99 : I wouldnt be surprised if we reach 30k this week [2023-08-07 04:14:03] BigBadShort : 800 guy wants 90% :) [2023-08-07 04:19:59] Hermite : Finnic99: I am with you on this, this it will down before going up. I'd say to maybe 24k? [2023-08-07 04:20:16] Hermite : Increased by short, let's see how it will play out. [2023-08-07 04:20:20] Hermite : /position xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: -1,000 USD @ 29138.5 ``` [2023-08-07 04:23:27] Spartner GAP : 30k [2023-08-07 04:23:30] Spartner GAP : Gogo [2023-08-07 04:24:14] Hermite : OMG my typing is efing crap, need to sleep more at night. [2023-08-07 04:24:44] Hermite : Spartner GAP: if it breaks 200, good chance we'll see 600 [2023-08-07 04:34:11] Hermite : /position xbtusd :downrocket: pleeeeese❕❕❕❕ ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: -1,500 USD @ 29145.4269 ``` [2023-08-07 04:34:22] Hermite : :downrocket: [2023-08-07 04:41:10] Hermite : :downrocket: :downrocket: [2023-08-07 04:41:14] Hermite : :downrocket: :downrocket: :downrocket: [2023-08-07 04:41:17] Hermite : :downrocket: :downrocket: :downrocket: :downrocket: [2023-08-07 04:41:20] Hermite : :downrocket: :downrocket: :downrocket: :downrocket: :downrocket: [2023-08-07 04:43:31] JokerMate : Lol PEPE broke [2023-08-07 04:46:47] Hermite : https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ikFl0XDsrWw [2023-08-07 04:48:29] Hermite : Like and subscribe https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uX77PkuEYNE [2023-08-07 04:49:20] Hermite : Massive short is being acummulated [2023-08-07 04:50:34] Hermite : **$300** down in 3.... 2.... 1.... go [2023-08-07 04:51:13] Rectile the reptile : century [2023-08-07 04:51:48] Fuun : so, it still hurts. [2023-08-07 04:51:56] Fuun : thats cute. [2023-08-07 04:52:31] Hermite : Bullls are trapped biiig tiiimeee [2023-08-07 04:53:18] al guul : gm and pump eet yeah [2023-08-07 04:53:30] Fuun : u have any reach in a dead chatbox? [2023-08-07 04:53:40] al guul : puump eet real good [2023-08-07 04:53:46] Fuun : probably not. [2023-08-07 04:53:55] Finnic99 : Hermite: it won't go to 24k IMO [2023-08-07 04:53:56] Fuun : so, its fine. [2023-08-07 04:54:00] al guul : pump eet for da gimp [2023-08-07 04:54:08] Fuun : just try to talk your pain away. [2023-08-07 04:54:24] Hermite : Finnic99: *$300* down incoming 3.... 2.... 1.... [2023-08-07 04:54:26] Fuun : but beware of young hansi. [2023-08-07 04:54:32] Finnic99 : Hermite: it will make a higher low.. bottom is probably 28-29k [2023-08-07 04:54:39] Fuun : it gets emotional sometimes. [2023-08-07 04:54:48] Rectile the reptile : 2 milli9on worth of btc were transfered from unknown wallet to M Donalds [2023-08-07 04:55:24] thesecretsimplykj : :arthur: [2023-08-07 04:55:26] Finnic99 : Hermite: if it's going to go down it will need to go up first. no liquidity to dump it [2023-08-07 04:55:28] Hermite : Finnic99: it might go thru the support to stop longs, so 24k is likely [2023-08-07 04:55:38] Rectile the reptile : 1k [2023-08-07 04:55:40] Finnic99 : Hermite: naaah no way [2023-08-07 04:55:45] Fuun : u are under 1.5k users again. [2023-08-07 04:55:53] Hermite : Finnic99: okay let me take another look [2023-08-07 04:55:53] Fuun : just try it again. [2023-08-07 04:56:01] Fuun : dont be scared now. [2023-08-07 04:56:05] Finnic99 : Hermite: 24k will break the market structure [2023-08-07 04:56:25] Rectile the reptile : 🍟 [2023-08-07 04:56:55] Hermite : Finnic99: Have just checked, and IMHO 24k is very likely. [2023-08-07 04:56:56] thesecretsimplykj : I believe we go for a last liquidity grab into 29.4K-29.6K range and then finally meet at least 28.3K. Could go lower though as things cascade and to clear longs [2023-08-07 04:57:12] Fuun : and the dead chat is still moving. [2023-08-07 04:57:16] Finnic99 : Hermite: saying "because it will stop longs isn't a good reaason" [2023-08-07 04:57:21] thesecretsimplykj : 26.2K should hold or we go increasingly bearish [2023-08-07 04:57:25] Hermite : thesecretsimplykj: that likely indeed [2023-08-07 04:57:42] Finnic99 : Hermite: the market is clearly progressing upwards.. the mean price is increasing.. we are making higher lows and higher highs [2023-08-07 04:57:46] Finnic99 : sell volume is low here [2023-08-07 04:57:47] Finnic99 : etc etc [2023-08-07 04:57:49] Hermite : thesecretsimplykj: not about 26.2 though [2023-08-07 04:57:55] Finnic99 : sounds like you are plucking 24k out of thin air [2023-08-07 04:58:20] Hermite : Finnic99: IMHO it's not about trends but about future resistance [2023-08-07 04:58:27] Fuun : looks like u have nothing to say. [2023-08-07 04:58:40] Finnic99 : Hermite: disagree [2023-08-07 04:58:41] Hermite : Finnic99: I am not looking that far into the future to be honest [2023-08-07 04:58:54] Finnic99 : Hermite: you should look at the bigger picture .. not just the last few days [2023-08-07 04:58:59] Rectile the reptile : 12k end of bullrun [2023-08-07 04:59:13] thesecretsimplykj : Hermite: yeah 26.2K is the last line to hold for the current bullish scenario. the second bullish one brings us to 23K and should flash back up pretty quick [2023-08-07 04:59:21] thesecretsimplykj : under 23K is doom [2023-08-07 04:59:23] Finnic99 : Hermite: ok.. look at bitcoin's history [2023-08-07 04:59:30] Finnic99 : Hermite: once the weekly starts to go up steeply [2023-08-07 04:59:33] Hermite : Finnic99: price action, but if i have to bet, I'd say 24k is more probable than 32k. [2023-08-07 04:59:43] Finnic99 : there is usually a huge price increase with shallow pullbacks [2023-08-07 04:59:54] Fuun : it was F5. [2023-08-07 05:00:02] Fuun : we just dont press it. [2023-08-07 05:00:22] Hermite : thesecretsimplykj: yeah [2023-08-07 05:00:41] Fuun : and u are still trying to fight against it. [2023-08-07 05:00:43] Hermite : she's so lovely https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uX77PkuEYNE [2023-08-07 05:00:50] Fuun : thats the funny part. [2023-08-07 05:00:51] Finnic99 : Hermite: https://www.tradingview.com/x/2gyBKU8J look at this [2023-08-07 05:00:59] Finnic99 : it's obvious [2023-08-07 05:01:03] Finnic99 : isn't it @Fuun [2023-08-07 05:01:10] Finnic99 : -.- [2023-08-07 05:01:34] Hermite : Finnic99: market is always right, let me check the chart [2023-08-07 05:01:38] Finnic99 : Hermite: can you see each weekly area I have highlighted [2023-08-07 05:01:42] Fuun : so, does it work? [2023-08-07 05:02:01] Fuun : guess, we will never know. [2023-08-07 05:02:05] Fuun : :joy: [2023-08-07 05:02:12] Finnic99 : Hermite: once the chart makes this sort of incline it usually either A. goes up exponentially or B. fails miserably and drops 85% [2023-08-07 05:02:15] Hermite : Finnic99: oooh the market structure has changed **a lot** since then. [2023-08-07 05:02:25] Finnic99 : if we go to 24k we are going to 20k or lower [2023-08-07 05:02:54] Finnic99 : it moves teh same way man... parabolic rise followed by sharp drop/sideways [2023-08-07 05:02:58] Finnic99 : why should this change [2023-08-07 05:03:02] Hermite : Finnic99: the the difference in the groiwh now and then [2023-08-07 05:03:10] Finnic99 : Hermite: growth will be lower yes [2023-08-07 05:03:13] Hermite : last time the bullrun wasn't healthy [2023-08-07 05:03:17] Fuun : oh and dont spam theFuunbox. [2023-08-07 05:03:23] Finnic99 : Hermite: it was [2023-08-07 05:03:24] Fuun : still dead in here. [2023-08-07 05:03:32] Hermite : it went up quickly mostly thanks to the sentiment e.g. Musk inversting etc [2023-08-07 05:03:36] Hermite : now we go slow [2023-08-07 05:03:41] Finnic99 : Hermite: you gotta understand this thing moves up 5-10x then retraces 80% [2023-08-07 05:03:52] Finnic99 : well sometimes more than 10x [2023-08-07 05:04:03] Finnic99 : when it retraces 80% it still makes a big higher low ! [2023-08-07 05:04:09] Finnic99 : This is how the bitcoin ponzi system works lmao [2023-08-07 05:04:10] Hermite : what is it not clear to me, ATM, is whether this is due to manipulation or there is a demand in BTC say from shitty contries etc [2023-08-07 05:04:25] thesecretsimplykj : we are in pre bullmarket phase. we will at least shit our pants once before the actual one [2023-08-07 05:04:38] Finnic99 : BTC is always pumped and dumpedd... but grows steadily year on year [2023-08-07 05:04:58] Finnic99 : if we break below mid 20ks the whole pump fails and it topples [2023-08-07 05:05:35] Finnic99 : this market cycle should go to 90-180k which is less % increase than last cycle [2023-08-07 05:05:43] Finnic99 : then it will dump 80% lol [2023-08-07 05:05:48] Finnic99 : always the same [2023-08-07 05:06:01] Finnic99 : since 2011 [2023-08-07 05:06:03] Finnic99 : 2010 [2023-08-07 05:06:12] thesecretsimplykj : 28.3K is the perfect price for manipulation though ... I wouldnt be surprised if we just flash dump through and trap every bullish bet and the guys holding since 31K [2023-08-07 05:06:16] Hermite : Finnic99: mate, if there is enough fuel it will easily go below even 24k.. it all depends on the fuel [2023-08-07 05:06:28] Finnic99 : Hermite: if it goes below 24k it will go much lower [2023-08-07 05:06:30] Finnic99 : but it won't go 24k [2023-08-07 05:06:56] Hermite : Finnic99: it will wick to 24k and the slow start going up or bart it up IMHO [2023-08-07 05:07:16] Finnic99 : Hermite: no point arguing here [2023-08-07 05:07:24] Finnic99 : but why should it not make a higher low............... [2023-08-07 05:07:30] Hermite : Finnic99: what I see now is distribution [2023-08-07 05:07:33] Finnic99 : like it always does in this structure [2023-08-07 05:07:44] Finnic99 : Hermite: maybe a micro distribution [2023-08-07 05:07:50] Finnic99 : look at the bigger picture man [2023-08-07 05:07:58] Finnic99 : we are up 100% since start of the year [2023-08-07 05:08:06] Finnic99 : trending UPWARDS [2023-08-07 05:08:11] Finnic99 : we don't need to crash that low [2023-08-07 05:08:16] Finnic99 : there is too much demand [2023-08-07 05:08:19] Finnic99 : look how slow the decline is [2023-08-07 05:08:26] Finnic99 : distribution doesn't even look like this [2023-08-07 05:08:33] Finnic99 : distribution is done over a much larger % range [2023-08-07 05:08:41] Finnic99 : i.e 65k - 48k range [2023-08-07 05:08:47] Finnic99 : with high volume ! [2023-08-07 05:09:06] Hermite : Finnic99: patterns emerge not because they were observed before but because there is physics behind that depends on the energy. So what we have seen before will not repeat the same way, I wouldn't at least for the same patterns. [2023-08-07 05:09:07] Finnic99 : doesnt distribute over 30-29k [2023-08-07 05:09:29] Finnic99 : Hermite: lol [2023-08-07 05:09:38] Finnic99 : its about common sense [2023-08-07 05:09:41] Hermite : *we are up 100% since start of the year* this BTW could still be pure manipulation. [2023-08-07 05:10:07] Finnic99 : no offence you sound like the perfect retail trader overcomplicates everything [2023-08-07 05:10:11] Finnic99 : and has a poor idea of the bigger picture [2023-08-07 05:10:26] thesecretsimplykj : one thing is clear here. there is no need to enter long until we actually paint bullishness hence this pa. get over 30K and one can enter long and actually has evidence for that. Buying this pa here is a literal gamble [2023-08-07 05:10:28] Hermite : Finnic99: I am not arguring about this, you might very well be right [2023-08-07 05:10:28] Finnic99 : think I'm done [2023-08-07 05:10:50] Finnic99 : thesecretsimplykj: LOOK AT THE DAMN MONTHLY [2023-08-07 05:10:59] Finnic99 : no wonder 90% is always wrong [2023-08-07 05:11:08] thesecretsimplykj : I look at the monthly [2023-08-07 05:11:14] Finnic99 : better to not waste time arguing with t***ls [2023-08-07 05:11:21] Finnic99 : :wave: [2023-08-07 05:11:27] Hermite : thesecretsimplykj: agree [2023-08-07 05:11:37] Finnic99 : you remind me of elchisoso on an alt [2023-08-07 05:11:51] Hermite : Finnic99: mate we are all one the same side here, don't get mad :) [2023-08-07 05:11:58] thesecretsimplykj : ^ [2023-08-07 05:12:16] Finnic99 : and you are all ignoring the trend [2023-08-07 05:12:25] Finnic99 : biased shorting the start of the bull market [2023-08-07 05:12:30] Finnic99 : making excuses for why it doesnt matter [2023-08-07 05:12:34] Hermite : Finnic99: I am not saying for cetain that something will happen, just share my thoughts, and most probably I am wrong :) [2023-08-07 05:12:35] Finnic99 : zoomed in on 15 minute [2023-08-07 05:12:49] Finnic99 : frustrating to hear stuff that makes no sense [2023-08-07 05:12:49] Hermite : I know that market is always right though ;) @Finnic99 [2023-08-07 05:12:55] thesecretsimplykj : if I look at the monthly it tells me that bulls lost the last months pa and we dont show any sign to change that yet with volume or clearing price levels up. In fact it looks like a gravestone [2023-08-07 05:13:03] JokerMate : Finnic99: 6 months bearish, 12 months bullish. Macro economy is just terrible [2023-08-07 05:13:05] Finnic99 : we are up 100% and people zoomed in too much [2023-08-07 05:13:33] Finnic99 : JokerMate: doesnt really matter. we pumped during covid didn't we [2023-08-07 05:13:41] Finnic99 : furthermore banks will cut rates next year [2023-08-07 05:13:51] Finnic99 : btc is a small market cap asset [2023-08-07 05:14:11] Finnic99 : economy isnt that bad anyway [2023-08-07 05:14:24] Hermite : Finnic99: this pump could be very well be fake i.e. manipulation, that is acutally that I tend to believe is happening [2023-08-07 05:14:38] Finnic99 : Hermite: its bitcoin what do you expect [2023-08-07 05:14:48] Finnic99 : Hermite: who cares if its manipulation [2023-08-07 05:15:02] Hermite : Finnic99: so if it is manipulation we can go back to 15k, also a possibility [2023-08-07 05:15:06] Finnic99 : if they can "manipulate it up" 100% they can do it again [2023-08-07 05:15:48] Hermite : /orders xbtusd my orders are plain and simple @Finnic99 ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: Buy 500 USD @ 28821 XBTUSD: Buy 500 USD @ 28921 XBTUSD: Buy 500 USD @ 28873 ``` [2023-08-07 05:17:07] Finnic99 : Hermite: https://www.tradingview.com/x/IzUcoqBD [2023-08-07 05:17:20] Finnic99 : 31k now = 6k in 2018 [2023-08-07 05:17:33] Hermite : Finnic99: diagonal line ? [2023-08-07 05:18:00] Finnic99 : once we break 31-32k we will go up to 48k -65k range bottom [2023-08-07 05:19:04] thesecretsimplykj : that statement is right [2023-08-07 05:19:07] Hermite : Finnic99: I agree that there is a gap, and many have been waiting for it [2023-08-07 05:19:13] thesecretsimplykj : but we wont break it now [2023-08-07 05:19:31] Hermite : thesecretsimplykj: I think so too [2023-08-07 05:19:54] Finnic99 : Hermite: https://www.tradingview.com/x/eUHrnqGM this explains it better [2023-08-07 05:20:20] Finnic99 : doing same thing as april 2019 just taking a bit longer [2023-08-07 05:20:51] Finnic99 : its exactly the same lmao these things are planned out and coordinated [2023-08-07 05:20:55] Hermite : Finnic99: it also could very well be the end of the uptrend, hard to say mate. [2023-08-07 05:21:08] BigBadShort : Finnic99: 2023 behind the window [2023-08-07 05:21:16] Finnic99 : Hermite: you don't see it, do you? [2023-08-07 05:21:22] Hermite : Finnic99: I see it [2023-08-07 05:21:32] Hermite : Finnic99: but history does not have to repeate [2023-08-07 05:21:38] Finnic99 : Hermite: day 1 of trading : "the trend is your friend until the end" [2023-08-07 05:21:42] Finnic99 : bet with the trend [2023-08-07 05:21:46] Finnic99 : a fool says "might be top of trend" [2023-08-07 05:22:00] Finnic99 : Hermite: ya but it probably will repeat won't it [2023-08-07 05:22:10] Finnic99 : esp if it looks almost exactly the same [2023-08-07 05:22:37] Finnic99 : gtg [2023-08-07 05:22:45] Finnic99 : I wasted enough time typing here today [2023-08-07 05:23:19] Hermite : Finnic99: apologies that I couldn't agree with you on this, let me sleep on it [2023-08-07 05:23:31] Finnic99 : Hermite: no need to apologise [2023-08-07 05:23:48] Finnic99 : but you're going against the trend and against history repeating = going against the probabilities [2023-08-07 05:24:04] Hermite : Finnic99: I don't want you to feel upset becuase of this disagrement [2023-08-07 05:24:06] Finnic99 : why should we break the trendline [2023-08-07 05:24:22] Finnic99 : am not [2023-08-07 05:24:47] Hermite : Finnic99: i don't see the buy volume [2023-08-07 05:25:01] Hermite : Finnic99: whatever long volume i see is due to closing shorts [2023-08-07 05:25:04] Finnic99 : Hermite: sounds like your finding excuses now to fit your perspective [2023-08-07 05:25:11] Finnic99 : so what [2023-08-07 05:25:14] Hermite : Finnic99: you probably right [2023-08-07 05:25:17] Finnic99 : it doesnt need volume to go up [2023-08-07 05:25:25] Finnic99 : all it needs is a lack of sellers [2023-08-07 05:25:40] Finnic99 : rememebr 2020 bull run it was all low volume until it reached the highs [2023-08-07 05:25:54] Finnic99 : in fact its easier to pump something on low volume because there is less take profit sell pressure [2023-08-07 05:26:20] Senior. Professor. : LIL WANNABE SMARTASS SHORTER WILL HAVE A RUDE AWAKENING ONE DOES NOT SIMPLY GO AGAINST THE ALMIGHTY @Finnic99 AND @Werner AND LIVE TO SEE ANOTHER DAY CUTE LITTLE SHORTER SHAKE AT YOUR KNEES FOR I WILL VISIT YOUR LIQUIDATION AT NIGHT WHILE YOU ARE SLEEPING YOU WILL TASTE MY WRATH :doge: :catjam: [2023-08-07 05:26:21] Hermite : Finnic99: yes, I do, also perhaps covid played a role [2023-08-07 05:26:27] Hermite : money printing in particuar [2023-08-07 05:26:33] Finnic99 : Senior. Professor.: good comment [2023-08-07 05:26:55] Finnic99 : Hermite: one can say money printing... but you can also say people were losing their businesses [2023-08-07 05:27:01] Finnic99 : and their income [2023-08-07 05:27:35] Finnic99 : not like everyone became richer [2023-08-07 05:27:44] Finnic99 : and had more money to spend [2023-08-07 05:28:15] Finnic99 : I think people just use the news to explain things retrospectively [2023-08-07 05:28:23] Finnic99 : when its set to happen regardless [2023-08-07 05:28:29] Finnic99 : yeah borrowing money was cheaper sure [2023-08-07 05:28:36] Finnic99 : but econo was also doing badl y [2023-08-07 05:28:56] Finnic99 : btc is a small market cap asset and it moves with hype and manipulation [2023-08-07 05:29:08] Hermite : Finnic99: from what I see, there is no spare cash left, people are trying to save. US debt skyrocketed etc etc anyways it's a different topic. [2023-08-07 05:29:10] Finnic99 : its less tied to the econ than people think imo [2023-08-07 05:29:31] Finnic99 : Hermite: but it still went up from 15k to 29k [2023-08-07 05:30:07] Bubblemania : Finnic99: bearmarket B wave [2023-08-07 05:30:44] Finnic99 : Bubblemania: even it is [2023-08-07 05:30:48] Finnic99 : look at 2019 [2023-08-07 05:31:06] Finnic99 : went from 3k to 14k [2023-08-07 05:31:11] Finnic99 : was that a "b wave" [2023-08-07 05:31:20] Finnic99 : everyone is also bearish now like they were in 2019 [2023-08-07 05:31:21] Hermite : Finnic99: https://edition.cnn.com/2023/08/02/investing/premarket-stocks-trading/index.html [2023-08-07 05:31:30] Finnic99 : history gonna repeat again [2023-08-07 05:31:45] Finnic99 : LIL WANNABE SMARTASS SHORTER WILL HAVE A RUDE AWAKENING ONE DOES NOT SIMPLY GO AGAINST THE ALMIGHTY @Finnic99 AND @Werner AND LIVE TO SEE ANOTHER DAY CUTE LITTLE SHORTER SHAKE AT YOUR KNEES FOR I WILL VISIT YOUR LIQUIDATION AT NIGHT WHILE YOU ARE SLEEPING YOU WILL TASTE MY WRATH :catjam: :doge: [2023-08-07 05:31:53] Finnic99 : gtg [2023-08-07 05:31:55] Finnic99 : peace [2023-08-07 05:32:36] thesecretsimplykj : every leading indicator shows extreme weakness and bearish divergences on weekly. I wouldnt let that slide [2023-08-07 05:32:40] Hermite : Finnic99: mate the economy is in big troubles, BTC is correlated with indexes [2023-08-07 05:33:01] Bubblemania : Finnic99: 2018 Bearmarket B wave went from 5.9K to 11,6K in bitcoin bearmarket usually top of B = 2x bottom of A [2023-08-07 05:34:32] Bubblemania : 2014 Bearmarket: bottom of A 340, top of B 680 [2023-08-07 05:35:55] Bubblemania : C bottom = 50% of A bottom 3k and 150 usd respectively [2023-08-07 05:35:55] Hermite : Finnic99: also relevant https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pU62UHpiU_8 [2023-08-07 05:36:28] Bubblemania : But this is past performance, always may go different [2023-08-07 05:37:41] Hermite : Bubblemania: indeed [2023-08-07 05:38:20] Senior. Professor. : @BitMEX_Hans Hope you had a nice weekend, ser. :doge: :catjam: [2023-08-07 05:40:05] BitMEX_Hans : Senior. Professor.: Thanks mate! I hope you had a great one too! :catjam: :doge: [2023-08-07 05:40:27] Senior. Professor. : BitMEX_Hans: Had a good one, too. mahalo ❤️ [2023-08-07 05:41:35] Bubblemania : After Wall Street got into crypto, this market is way bigger and both slower than it used to be. 15.5k could be bottom of wave A yet after a year of bearmarket. Reaching bottom of C may take another year [2023-08-07 05:43:57] Hermite : Bubblemania: Are you using Wyckoff or Elliot terminology? :) [2023-08-07 05:44:06] Hermite : I am a bit lost [2023-08-07 05:46:43] thesecretsimplykj : Im increasingly in the boat of loosing the trendline from 15K soon and flash crash through 28.3K (the point of interest) would be the absolute nightmare scenario. 24K for max pain. maybe even 23K [2023-08-07 05:47:10] thesecretsimplykj : weekly bearish divergence is gross ... signals absolute weakness [2023-08-07 05:47:41] Hermite : thesecretsimplykj: agree [2023-08-07 05:48:36] Finnic99 : BitMEX_Hans: GM HANSI ! [2023-08-07 05:49:09] Finnic99 : BitMEX_Hans: these bears are irritating me.. going against the bulla market.. I think it's time bitmex trading desk presses the green button [2023-08-07 05:49:18] Finnic99 : they are finding excuses to go against the trend [2023-08-07 05:49:55] Finnic99 : BitMEX_Hans: 06:31] Finnic99: history gonna repeat again LIL WANNABE SMARTASS SHORTER WILL HAVE A RUDE AWAKENING ONE DOES NOT SIMPLY GO AGAINST THE ALMIGHTY @Finnic99 AND @Werner AND LIVE TO SEE ANOTHER DAY CUTE LITTLE SHORTER SHAKE AT YOUR KNEES FOR I WILL VISIT YOUR LIQUIDATION AT NIGHT WHILE YOU ARE SLEEPING YOU WILL TASTE MY WRATH @Bitmex_Hans :doge: :catjam: [2023-08-07 05:49:58] Finnic99 : anyyway hope u are well [2023-08-07 05:50:39] Finnic99 : /position xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: 15,000 USD @ 29156.389 ``` [2023-08-07 05:52:08] Hermite : Finnic99: I respect that you are putting your money where your mouth is ;) [2023-08-07 05:53:08] Hermite : if the price goes above **200** I will join your long :) [2023-08-07 05:53:16] BitMEX_Hans : Finnic99: :kek: [2023-08-07 05:55:06] Finnic99 : Hermite: gl gl :p [2023-08-07 05:55:52] Hermite : Finnic99: if we go back to the channel, maybe not a good idea to hold the long IMHO, could be very wrong thou [2023-08-07 05:57:58] bmagic : Liquidity sweep incoming [2023-08-07 05:57:59] bmagic : good luck [2023-08-07 05:59:05] Hermite : bmagic: thanks [2023-08-07 06:08:44] Hermite : BitMEX_Hans: Are you planning to introduce a GPT bot here? It could be useful for the chart participants. There is also a way to reduce the output length, so it does not generate a wall of text. You could also integrate it with recent news and calendar events. Can provide more details on how one can do that. [2023-08-07 06:11:31] BigBadShort : Mr 800 [2023-08-07 06:11:50] BigBadShort : This week I will become Mr 300 :) [2023-08-07 06:12:01] BigBadShort : 300 days sober! [2023-08-07 06:12:26] Hermite : BigBadShort: Congrats Mr. W 😁👍 [2023-08-07 06:12:30] BigBadShort : Mr 800 asks for 90% :) crazy :) [2023-08-07 06:17:01] petyx : short LTC for free moneyz [2023-08-07 06:18:33] Hermite : petyx: Why not BTC❔ [2023-08-07 06:19:05] petyx : Hermite: historicaly LTC dumped for 80% after halvings against BTC so its win-win [2023-08-07 06:19:26] Hermite : petyx: I see, interesting [2023-08-07 06:23:19] BigBadShort : A new monthly futures listing - XBTQ23 - is on its way to BitMEX. [2023-08-07 06:27:02] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated long on `XRPUSDT`: Sell 210 XRP @ 0.6192 ($129.79) [2023-08-07 06:27:21] traderbane : /position XBTUSD [2023-08-07 06:28:46] BigBadShort : Command not found for position: "/position XBTUSD " [2023-08-07 06:28:51] traderbane : scam [2023-08-07 06:28:57] traderbane : /position XBTUSD ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: -5,352,700 USD @ 29114.709 ``` [2023-08-07 06:30:03] Hermite : traderbane: 👍👍 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dob-afF0tNs [2023-08-07 06:30:22] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated long on `XRPUSDT`: Sell 10000 XRP @ 0.6165 ($6,153.90) - No refunds! [2023-08-07 06:30:22] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated long on `XRPUSD`: Sell 1 Cont @ 0.6157 ($3.57) [2023-08-07 06:33:11] Bubblemania : My TA is if this goes no lower than 27.4 then 35k is still possible. Back to 25k means h&s retracement to 30.6k and 20,7k next [2023-08-07 06:36:47] petyx : dump is inevitable, bitcoin tend to dump after long consolidation in any case [2023-08-07 06:38:55] Bubblemania : A couple of small, red dailies in bitcoin means only one [2023-08-07 06:45:57] JokerMate : Pretty brutal rejection in the end, lots of fuel for a sub 29k