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[2023-07-30 02:29:05] MadoffNakamoto : press green if you hate money
[2023-07-30 02:32:20] hehe MOON : MadoffNakamoto: hating money since 15k :pepe:
[2023-07-30 02:32:21] Hermite : Can we assume that we are in consolidation phase?
[2023-07-30 02:32:55] hehe MOON : Hermite: https://imgur.com/a/kPp2RZL
[2023-07-30 02:43:52] Hermite : hehe MOON: https://www.geekmetaverse.com/bitcoin-could-reach-200000-but-will-drop-below-20000-first-according-to-bloomberg/
[2023-07-30 02:48:00] Hermite : hehe MOON: آج آپ کا کیا حال ہے
[2023-07-30 02:48:50] hehe MOON : Hermite: news :arthur:
[2023-07-30 03:02:29] Jojey : hi friends
[2023-07-30 03:02:39] Jojey : /position xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: 70,000 USD @ 29310.75 ```
[2023-07-30 03:04:15] Hermite : Jojey: yo that is a massive long! I assume you are confident about it. Do you think we’ll test 30k or you are exiting it before that?
[2023-07-30 03:05:07] Jojey : i'm keeping till fortune :)
[2023-07-30 03:05:33] Jojey : i'm ready to loose my 1k :')
[2023-07-30 03:08:55] hehe MOON : 🚀🚀🚀
[2023-07-30 03:12:36] Jojey : why is bitmex so empty
[2023-07-30 03:15:51] hehe MOON : Jojey: bearas busy swimming
[2023-07-30 03:16:22] hehe MOON : Also its the weekend, sideways only
[2023-07-30 03:16:26] hehe MOON : Only sideways
[2023-07-30 03:16:56] Hermite : Jojey: so it is a long term trade?
[2023-07-30 03:17:40] Hermite : Mex is empty because crypto has been taking by trading firms running bots, retail is dried out.
[2023-07-30 03:18:30] Jojey : Hermite: yes. probably
[2023-07-30 03:18:46] elChisoso : Running bots is fun though.
[2023-07-30 03:18:55] Jojey : Hermite: its like we have this chat only for us :)
[2023-07-30 03:19:23] Hermite : Jojey: yes indeed, the stubborn traders
[2023-07-30 03:21:30] Hermite : elChisoso: it is fun, but it is unlikely the bots running by small firms let alone single coders will survive, simply due to asymmetry in information access and the capital required to move the market.
[2023-07-30 03:22:40] elChisoso : Hermite: True, but at the same time decoding the flow of money is for the most time enough to follow around and profit. But yeah, big money is more money is poor retail.
[2023-07-30 03:35:12] Hermite : elChisoso: I think the most important assumption is that the price is mean reverting if this is true and you have either infinite capital or limited capital but your don’t open short positions then it is impossible to lose long term. Then the question is how long term, does someone wants to wait for the price to return to 60k. You might say averaging out might help, yes but then capital requirements start to grow.
[2023-07-30 03:38:06] Werner : You were werned
[2023-07-30 03:38:09] Werner : super ltc coin
[2023-07-30 03:38:21] Werner : KING COIN
[2023-07-30 03:38:23] Werner : UP ONLY
[2023-07-30 03:38:27] Werner : ONLY UP
[2023-07-30 03:39:00] elChisoso : Hermite: also to add into the frequency of trading and the volume at those times. To me, myself I work with the spread between the lows and the highs, i use a rather small capital but as you say, the requirement increases as price moves the wrong way so I always remove some profits when the opportunity shows itself. I have been researching the flow of money for some time, not saying I am an expert or anything, but I finally have that edge I have been looking for.
[2023-07-30 03:40:05] elChisoso : Big firms with big wallets always wins in the end. I have just accepted that fact, unless the companys name is Alameda, they did all the wrongs in the book and the market has normalized quite a bit since they closed their doors.
[2023-07-30 03:41:41] elChisoso : Each cycle in the cycle has other cycles, how money move from one place to the next. Learning to identify this has helped me a lot.
[2023-07-30 03:42:08] elChisoso : Software analyses these cycles much faster than me, so software it is.
[2023-07-30 04:37:33] Hermite : elChisoso: When you say "flow of money", do you mean (a) blockchain dynamics, (b) open interest, (c) price dynamics, (d) market sentiment?
[2023-07-30 04:38:52] Hermite : elChisoso: analysis of the lows and highs is useful until the trend changes, and frequently it is hard to say whether it has changed or not, only retrospectively one can say for sure, but by then it is already late.
[2023-07-30 04:42:16] Hermite : elChisoso: Alameda initially generated their profit by doing simple arbitrage between Japan and the US, later when they accumulated enough wealth mostly with the help of investors, they started doing market manipulation, that led to even higher profitability. They are gone, yes, but there is a number of others that doing exactly that. That is why it is important to have enough capital to sustain the deliberate attacks organized by these firms.
[2023-07-30 04:46:50] Hermite : Actually Alameda fell prey to exactly the same mistakes that many beginner and not only trades make, overleveraging. The difference is, they had access to limitless capital thanks to the use of clients' money and printing their own tokens.
[2023-07-30 04:52:05] Werner : WERNINGGS WERE ISSSUED
[2023-07-30 04:52:09] Werner : YOU SSIRS WERRE WERENRD
[2023-07-30 04:53:31] hehe MOON : Werner: LTC SUPER MAX PREMIUM ULTRA COIN
[2023-07-30 04:53:47] Werner : hehe MOON: KING COIN SIR
[2023-07-30 04:53:52] Werner : ULTRA MAXX PRO COIN SIR
[2023-07-30 04:54:01] hehe MOON : Indeed :catjam:
[2023-07-30 04:54:04] Hermite : elChisoso: Regarding the market cycles, we need to distinguish two types of cycles, (a) the cycles that are caused by financial markets, and (b) the ones caused by economic conditions. Recently, there were several studies indicating that the causation that was in place before i.e. economics dictates the behavior of financial markets, is no longer true, and the two are either decoupled or reversed, i.e. now financial markets often lead economics. In the context of bitcoin it is especially true. The price could be and is manipulated to gain the social and sentiment movement to either force the public to sell or to buy regardless of whether there is any fundamental value.
[2023-07-30 04:54:35] Werner : hehe MOON: So the agent said he cant renew the lease on the unit i just moved into a couple weeks ago and is going to end it on sep 2
[2023-07-30 04:54:47] Werner : damn in this housing crisis where am i going to live
[2023-07-30 04:54:51] Werner : on the streets ?
[2023-07-30 04:54:54] Werner : seems like it
[2023-07-30 04:55:07] Werner : add one more homeless to the streets of adelaide
[2023-07-30 04:55:18] Werner : operation paragon going to be coming for me
[2023-07-30 04:55:38] Werner : I think the agent wants more money for the unit
[2023-07-30 04:58:50] Hermite : The only aspect of the market that a trader can rely on is Physics. When money flow is treated as energy. To manipulate the system, it should first receive certain amount of energy to initiate a reaction, think of it as a nuclear reaction, to start it, one need first apply a certain amount of energy.
[2023-07-30 05:01:33] hehe MOON : Werner: you think Adelaide is bad, dont come to Gold coast
[2023-07-30 05:01:58] hehe MOON : Im lucky i own my home
[2023-07-30 05:02:14] Hermite : However, one also should be able to estimate fundamental value that is the market equilibrium. It does change with time but at a lower rate than the price.
[2023-07-30 05:02:16] Werner : hehe MOON: bruh its all over stralya, they think i can pay 250 a week plus for a room being a student with all other expenses is beyond me
[2023-07-30 05:02:40] Werner : The study is too much to even think about working, im fooked
[2023-07-30 05:02:48] hehe MOON : Werner: would be $500 + here
[2023-07-30 05:03:01] Werner : and this cheap place i was living in the lease expires in september and the guy aint renewing it
[2023-07-30 05:03:28] Werner : hehe MOON: you can find student accomodation in gold coast for 250 i bet a room in a sharehouse
[2023-07-30 05:03:41] Werner : 500 would be more like for a studio apartment per week
[2023-07-30 05:03:45] Hermite : I would recommend reding this paper, if you are interested in testing your strategies https://arxiv.org/pdf/1906.12010.pdf.
[2023-07-30 05:04:11] Werner : Hermite: You seem to show 0 concern about my issue here sisr
[2023-07-30 05:04:18] Hermite : *We show how a multi-agent simulator can support two important but distinct methods for assessing a trading strategy: Market Replay and Interactive Agent-Based Simulation (IABS). Our solution is important because each method offers strengths and weaknesses that expose or conceal flaws in the subject strategy. A key weakness of Market Replay is that the simulated market does not substantially adapt to or respond to the presence of the experimental strategy. IABS methods provide an artificial market for the experimental strategy using a population of background trading agents.*
[2023-07-30 05:04:20] Hermite : *Because the background agents attend to market conditions and current price as part of their strategy, the overall market is responsive to the presence of the experimental strategy. Even so, IABS methods have their own weaknesses, primarily that it is unclear if the market environment they provide is realistic. We describe our approach in detail, and illustrate its use in an example application: The evaluation of market impact for various size orders*
[2023-07-30 05:04:26] hehe MOON : Werner: gov is fukin everyone over with housing and tax
[2023-07-30 05:04:56] hehe MOON : Paid 12k tax, got less than 1k back
[2023-07-30 05:05:06] hehe MOON : Fookin thieves
[2023-07-30 05:06:30] Hermite : hehe MOON: I got a huge refund last year, but I did spend a lot on the trading infrastructure.
[2023-07-30 05:07:17] hehe MOON : Hermite: nice one
[2023-07-30 05:08:01] Hermite : hehe MOON: yeah just put all the servers, traveling expenses, books etc
[2023-07-30 05:08:05] Werner : hehe MOON: yeah i heard even interest rates are too high now, people paying 1000 are now paying like 1700 for the same house so they have to increase the rents on the property
[2023-07-30 05:08:32] Hermite : hehe MOON: I know how ATO works, and what algos they run, no one gives a shit, as long as it does not stand out.
[2023-07-30 05:08:51] Werner : hehe MOON: my cousin who lives in queenssland has like 3 houses, he had money for another but he's not doing it, he said he's putting it into btc, i dont know how but he said that makes him pay lesser tax than if he had bought another house sir
[2023-07-30 05:08:53] Werner : mahalo !
[2023-07-30 05:09:04] Werner : intownsville he lives
[2023-07-30 05:09:57] hehe MOON : Hermite: tell that to the regular workers
[2023-07-30 05:10:11] Hermite : hehe MOON: I went to party to GS in April, was lots of fun, girls putout easily, everyone is in party mode,
[2023-07-30 05:10:27] Hermite : hehe MOON: what exactly?
[2023-07-30 05:10:34] Werner : I think i'll need to move further south towards sseaford or ssomething the way that things are going atm
[2023-07-30 05:10:34] hehe MOON : I have a day job, i claimed lots of bogus stuff just to get more of a refund
[2023-07-30 05:10:54] Werner : Hermite: @hehe MOON there's no party in goldcoast
[2023-07-30 05:10:58] Werner : jusst schoolies at tthat time
[2023-07-30 05:11:01] Werner : trash youth
[2023-07-30 05:11:02] Werner : lol
[2023-07-30 05:11:07] hehe MOON : ^ **fact**
[2023-07-30 05:11:10] Werner : partying anf causing mayhem
[2023-07-30 05:11:39] Hermite : Werner: Sure, still you can get laid, if you want .
[2023-07-30 05:11:56] Werner : Hermite: lol hehe
[2023-07-30 05:12:00] DogeX : Werner: :doge: :doge:
[2023-07-30 05:12:06] hehe MOON : Werner: isnt a toolie
[2023-07-30 05:12:11] Werner : I'm gonna claim everything in my uber gst tax return
[2023-07-30 05:12:22] Werner : 99% of my car insurance and everything elsse
[2023-07-30 05:12:25] Werner : fook the govt
[2023-07-30 05:12:38] Hermite : Werner: you should
[2023-07-30 05:12:41] Werner : hehe MOON: @DogeX @Hermite :doge:
[2023-07-30 05:12:47] Werner : Hermite: heheheh
[2023-07-30 05:13:11] Werner : fook man like if i already didnt have enough on my plate
[2023-07-30 05:13:18] Werner : now this finding new accomodation bullsht
[2023-07-30 05:13:21] Werner : fook fook fook
[2023-07-30 05:16:05] hehe MOON : Werner: you may have to live in Elizabeth. Sleep with a knife under your pillow :pepe:
[2023-07-30 05:17:44] Werner : hehe MOON: lol too far, i went on the ggawler central train the other day but got off at mawson lakes to get my moneygram transfer, no one in the city had the money and would have to wait two days
[2023-07-30 05:17:54] Werner : i'd ratherr live in the south than the north
[2023-07-30 05:17:58] Werner : since my uni is in southh
[2023-07-30 05:18:19] Werner : and i cant cross city evryday to come to uni 3 days a week so yeah probably more towards seaford
[2023-07-30 05:18:32] Werner : maybe glenelg
[2023-07-30 05:18:44] Werner : since there's a direct bus from glenelg wont even have to use my car
[2023-07-30 05:19:14] hehe MOON : Glenelg is SAs gold coast
[2023-07-30 05:21:45] hehe MOON : Werner: also , spell Glenelg backwards
[2023-07-30 05:21:55] hehe MOON : :Arthur:
[2023-07-30 05:22:08] hehe MOON : Fun fact
[2023-07-30 05:22:45] Werner : hehe MOON: damn lol didnt know that
[2023-07-30 05:22:52] Werner : its backward glenelg too lol
[2023-07-30 05:23:13] Werner : prropbably gelenlg it is because thats the closesst NAB branch withh tellers
[2023-07-30 05:23:17] Werner : they closing down all branches
[2023-07-30 05:23:39] Werner : even gleneg had 2 tellers and one was retiring on friday when i went to get a bankers cheque to buy my car
[2023-07-30 05:23:45] hehe MOON : Commbank is good
[2023-07-30 05:23:46] Werner : ssomething is wrong with NAB
[2023-07-30 05:24:16] Werner : hehe MOON: THOSE COMMIES SAID THEY DIDNT HHAVE A FREE SPOT OPEN TO FIX MY ACCOUNT ADDRESS AND NUMBERR ON IT SO I OPENED A WESTPAC ONLINE ACCOUNT INSTEAD
[2023-07-30 05:24:29] Werner : SINCE I CAME BACK AFTER LIKE 2 YEARS MY NUMBER AND ADDRRESS CHANGED
[2023-07-30 05:24:33] Werner : COULDNT GET INTO THE ACCOUNT
[2023-07-30 05:24:37] hehe MOON : oof
[2023-07-30 05:24:38] Werner : NAB FIXED IT IN 5 MIN
[2023-07-30 05:24:43] Werner : THE COMMIES WOULDN'T FIX IT
[2023-07-30 05:24:50] Werner : ANZ SSAID TILL NEXT WEEK THEY GOT NO SPOT
[2023-07-30 05:24:57] Werner : I SHOULD GET AN APPOINTMENT
[2023-07-30 05:24:57] Werner : LOL
[2023-07-30 05:25:33] 9figrs : you arent VIP @Werner
[2023-07-30 05:25:41] 9figrs : back of the line thanks
[2023-07-30 05:26:06] Werner : 9figrs: lol not in australia, im a third class citizen sir
[2023-07-30 05:26:13] Werner : mahalo !
[2023-07-30 05:26:22] Werner : vip in my dreams and my 3rd world country
[2023-07-30 05:26:41] 9figrs : so you one of them guys that play the didgeridoo
[2023-07-30 05:27:51] Werner : hehe MOON: also i tried to get my car comprehensive insurance and tried to include ridesharre in it youi and a couple others quoted me 3-4k
[2023-07-30 05:27:53] Werner : lol
[2023-07-30 05:28:10] Werner : i than did a private comprehensive insurance with bingle for 800
[2023-07-30 05:28:18] Werner : heheh the cheapest out of all
[2023-07-30 05:28:48] 9figrs : why need a car if you just sit on bitmex?
[2023-07-30 05:28:54] Werner : had to understate the miles i'd drive and where the car would be parked etc,
[2023-07-30 05:29:15] 9figrs : no need for a car, just work at bitmex 24/7
[2023-07-30 05:29:55] Werner : 9figrs: i need it to do uber, i need money cuz rents are extremely high, 1 week rrent is like 250$ and other things combined like 600$ per week, which is weekly 100,000 in my home currency, at that rate i'll deplete all my savings back home so i need to work
[2023-07-30 05:30:04] Werner : 9figrs: sir sir
[2023-07-30 05:30:13] Werner : on bitmex i dont make money sir
[2023-07-30 05:30:13] Andy RSA : Werner: go back to your cave
[2023-07-30 05:30:16] Werner : i sspend money on here
[2023-07-30 05:30:25] Werner : Andy RSA: go back and lick on steve's ballss
[2023-07-30 05:30:28] Werner : mute me plz
[2023-07-30 05:30:36] Werner : and dont read what i have to say
[2023-07-30 05:30:44] Werner : mahalo !
[2023-07-30 05:31:32] Andy RSA : Werner: you want to lick he's balls!
[2023-07-30 05:32:48] Werner : Andy RSA: suck on my popsickle !
[2023-07-30 05:33:40] Andy RSA : Werner: not that small dirty thing. It's not my style
[2023-07-30 05:34:47] DogeX : Loooooooool
[2023-07-30 05:35:04] Werner : Andy RSA: :pepe:
[2023-07-30 05:35:09] Werner : :doge:
[2023-07-30 05:35:27] Werner : omg too many readings
[2023-07-30 05:35:32] Werner : too many thingss to do
[2023-07-30 05:35:38] Werner : now i have to look for a new place
[2023-07-30 05:35:40] Werner : omg
[2023-07-30 05:35:45] Werner : i got tooo much on my plate
[2023-07-30 05:35:54] Werner : god have mercy on my poor soul
[2023-07-30 05:36:36] Hermite : Werner: how much money you've made here on bitmex? can you do it again?
[2023-07-30 05:38:10] Werner : Hermite: i have turned 0.05 btc to over 1 btc three times
[2023-07-30 05:38:15] Werner : but i have gotten rekt 300 times
[2023-07-30 05:38:19] Hermite : Werner: oh wow
[2023-07-30 05:38:19] Werner : it was gambling
[2023-07-30 05:38:22] Werner : i cant do it again
[2023-07-30 05:38:25] Werner : im doing 1x now
[2023-07-30 05:38:35] Werner : and that was pre 2019 when bitcoin would literally 4xx
[2023-07-30 05:38:46] Werner : and ltc btc pair would have wild swings
[2023-07-30 05:38:55] Werner : things much different now
[2023-07-30 05:39:06] Werner : it moves like a couple percent now
[2023-07-30 05:40:39] Hermite : Werner: are you planing to continue trading?
[2023-07-30 05:40:56] Hermite : Werner: If you've made it 3 times, maybe it is not luck?
[2023-07-30 05:41:59] Werner : Hermite: yeah im doing trading now but with 100% discipline
[2023-07-30 05:42:23] Werner : with never above 1x until its toops in profit and i up the leverage
[2023-07-30 05:42:24] Hermite : Werner: this is great!
[2023-07-30 05:42:37] Werner : thats thhe only feasible way in the long run with risk management
[2023-07-30 05:42:44] Werner : otherwise its just gambling
[2023-07-30 05:43:00] Hermite : Werner: I see you were very profitable a couple of weeks ago.
[2023-07-30 05:43:11] Werner : Hermite: yeah that was gamblingg with max lev
[2023-07-30 05:43:13] Werner : and i rekt
[2023-07-30 05:43:22] Werner : and all the hard work of weeks wasted in a couple days
[2023-07-30 05:43:30] Werner : that whats wrong when you trade like that
[2023-07-30 05:43:37] Hermite : Werner: yeah phycology and money management are the key
[2023-07-30 05:43:38] Werner : you can make unlimeted money in a long time
[2023-07-30 05:43:45] Werner : but than up your leveragge and get rrekt
[2023-07-30 05:43:56] Werner : Hermite: indeed sir, mahalo !
[2023-07-30 05:47:00] Hermite : Werner: yep, I resonate with you. If you get REKT 300 times, I think it is better to deposit really small amount (say 0.0005) and practice more.
[2023-07-30 05:47:51] Werner : Hermite: I think its better to deposit really big amount and play without leverage
[2023-07-30 05:47:57] Werner : what do you think about that
[2023-07-30 05:48:05] Werner : like i deposit 5k and i long 500$
[2023-07-30 05:48:14] Werner : and than i longg 500% when it dumps a couple grand
[2023-07-30 05:48:39] Werner : and the max i can ever long is like under5k and have a few thousand in backup to add margic if sht hits the fan
[2023-07-30 05:48:46] Werner : and bitcoin decides to dump like 70%
[2023-07-30 05:49:15] Hermite : Werner: i am against that idea. if you learn to trade with 0.0005, you can trade it up to 0.01 and so on.
[2023-07-30 05:49:21] Werner : because with small amounts im not satisfied with the amount of contracts i have longed and its too little money just like wasting time
[2023-07-30 05:50:01] Werner : Hermite: that doesn't work with me tried it for 6+ years, money gets a little big i over trade and rekt
[2023-07-30 05:50:05] Werner : i dont know tb
[2023-07-30 05:50:08] Werner : tbh
[2023-07-30 05:50:12] Werner : maybe you right
[2023-07-30 05:51:11] Hermite : Werner: yes, you eventually learn not o overtrade, that is the key - trader's psychology
[2023-07-30 05:51:37] petyx : hyper dump it
[2023-07-30 05:51:50] petyx : SPX collapse tomorrow
[2023-07-30 05:54:21] Werner : Hermite: easier said than done'you think i havent rread on traders's psychology
[2023-07-30 05:54:29] Werner : i've not read mark douglas and seen his seminars
[2023-07-30 05:54:33] Werner : to think like a trader
[2023-07-30 05:54:42] Werner : risk management patience etc
[2023-07-30 05:54:47] Werner : its easier said than done sir
[2023-07-30 05:55:08] Werner : since 7 years i'm trying to train my mind to think as a trrader
[2023-07-30 05:55:15] Werner : but its still thinking as a gambler sir
[2023-07-30 05:55:19] Werner : mahalo !
[2023-07-30 05:55:22] Hermite : Please listen to this trader, it will give inspiration https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlYsJpQKJ7Q he went through hard time and succeeded. This is you @Werner
[2023-07-30 05:55:24] Werner : :arthur:
[2023-07-30 05:55:31] Werner : lol
[2023-07-30 05:56:23] Hermite : Werner: really give it a go
[2023-07-30 05:58:06] Hermite : Werner: don't deposit more than 0.0005.
[2023-07-30 06:01:46] Hermite : Werner: I can also share with you my software that will help you to set SL, TP, provide you recommendations where to enter and exit positions.
[2023-07-30 06:01:56] Fuun : dont spam theFuunbox, kid.
[2023-07-30 06:02:00] Fuun : its okay.
[2023-07-30 06:02:29] Fuun : under 1.4k users, kids.
[2023-07-30 06:03:03] Gandalf the Grey : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eg2kfAi-WrY you must get it together mang
[2023-07-30 06:04:34] Werner : Hermite: sorry sir i cant follow a system thaat puts on sshorrts
[2023-07-30 06:04:44] Werner : grandfather wrote in his will to never short the bitcoin
[2023-07-30 06:04:52] Werner : i jusst cant short
[2023-07-30 06:04:54] Werner : thats not me
[2023-07-30 06:05:05] Werner : :doge:
[2023-07-30 06:05:37] Werner : I'd rather jump into the cold ocean off a cliff than short the corrn sir
[2023-07-30 06:05:40] Werner : **facts**
[2023-07-30 06:06:33] Hermite : Gandalf the Grey: 안녕
[2023-07-30 06:06:58] Gandalf the Grey : Hermite: Dobré ráno, kamarát.
[2023-07-30 06:09:09] Hermite : Gandalf the Grey: still holding?
[2023-07-30 06:10:20] Gandalf the Grey : Got out 360. Waiting for some tradeable price action.
[2023-07-30 06:13:14] Hermite : Gandalf the Grey: that's really smart!! I was about to exit too, but haven't, now trapped.
[2023-07-30 06:25:21] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated long on `ETHUSD`: Sell 289 Cont @ 1875.15 ($15,866.05) - The struggle is real
[2023-07-30 06:27:24] Fuun : it simply hurts to be u.
[2023-07-30 06:49:03] Hermite : Gandalf the Grey: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYYhwdk9sMo
[2023-07-30 06:52:57] jjhiijiji : mornin
[2023-07-30 06:53:44] jjhiijiji : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTIw5Sx_kAU
[2023-07-30 06:56:20] Hermite : 안녕 @jjhiijiji
[2023-07-30 06:56:30] $wan : 오
[2023-07-30 06:57:24] Hermite : $wan: 가즈아❕❕❕❕
[2023-07-30 06:57:31] Hermite : 🚀
[2023-07-30 06:57:32] Hermite : 🚀🚀
[2023-07-30 06:57:33] Hermite : 🚀🚀🚀
[2023-07-30 06:57:35] Hermite : 🚀🚀🚀🚀
[2023-07-30 06:57:37] Hermite : 🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀
[2023-07-30 06:57:38] $wan : Hermite: Gazuaaaa
[2023-07-30 07:00:02] DogeX : :doge:
[2023-07-30 07:00:15] $wan : :doge: https://youtu.be/FqKMaNVUt8A
[2023-07-30 07:01:13] Hermite : oh nice choice 👍 @$wan
[2023-07-30 07:01:34] $wan : kkk cute icon
[2023-07-30 07:02:30] Hermite : 좋아 @$wan
[2023-07-30 07:03:54] $wan : :doge::bmex::doge:
[2023-07-30 07:07:16] jjhiijiji : booooooooooooooriiiing
[2023-07-30 07:10:44] DogeX : $wan: :doge: :bmex:
[2023-07-30 07:22:48] jjhiijiji : Bitcoin is dead. Bitcoin remains dead. And we have killed it. How shall we, murderers of all murderers, console ourselves? That which was the holiest and mightiest of all that the world has yet possessed has bled to death under our knives. Who will wipe this blood off us? With what water could we purify ourselves? What festivals of atonement, what sacred games shall we need to invent? Is not the greatness of this deed too great for us? Must we not ourselves become gods simply to be worthy of it?
[2023-07-30 07:23:00] wassa_wassa_bitconee : 28k incoming
[2023-07-30 07:25:12] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated long on `WLDUSD`: Sell 20 Cont @ 2.388 ($139.87)
[2023-07-30 07:35:12] hehe MOON : Weak ass bearas
[2023-07-30 07:40:56] Dario2 : jjhiijiji: lmao your comment reminds me of what I read in a book called The Gay Science written by Friedrich Nietzsche :kek:
[2023-07-30 07:41:17] Dario2 : "God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him..."
[2023-07-30 07:42:02] hehe MOON : Dario2: :arthur: ⬅️ this is God
[2023-07-30 07:42:12] Dario2 : hehe MOON: haha :arthur:
[2023-07-30 07:42:28] hehe MOON : Dario2: **fact** sir
[2023-07-30 07:42:58] Dario2 : hehe MOON: for sure sir I always trust your facts
[2023-07-30 07:43:31] hehe MOON : Dario2: he actually spoke here before the pump to 69k
[2023-07-30 07:43:47] hehe MOON : I dont have the screen shot anymore
[2023-07-30 07:44:28] hehe MOON : GOD: " Welcome to bullmarket "
[2023-07-30 07:44:34] Dario2 : hehe MOON: oh yeah I have heard he was active on trollbox back in the days
[2023-07-30 07:44:48] hehe MOON : Not sure if any others remember
[2023-07-30 07:45:27] hehe MOON : /since ``` :bitmex: hehe MOON has been on BitMEX since May 26, 2018. ```
[2023-07-30 07:45:55] Dario2 : only you and Steve I guess, maybe Goldfish too
[2023-07-30 07:48:33] Laplace : /since @Dario2 ``` :bitmex: Laplace has been on BitMEX since May 2, 2017. ```
[2023-07-30 07:48:50] Dario2 : Laplace: you are Hermite right?
[2023-07-30 07:49:33] Laplace : Dario2: Pierre-Simon, Marquis de **Laplace** was a French scholar and polymath whose work was important to the development of engineering, mathematics, statistics, physics, astronomy, and philosophy. ;)
[2023-07-30 07:49:47] Dario2 : all your 3 accounts are named after mathematicians yeah I know :arthur:
[2023-07-30 07:50:40] Dario2 : what was the name of the other account? hmm I don't remember
[2023-07-30 08:00:05] bluemaster : https://www.ac.com.au/upload/hakuna-matata.png
[2023-07-30 08:00:22] DogeX : bluemaster: :doge:
[2023-07-30 08:00:30] Werner : $wan: 🚀 🚀🚀 🚀🚀🚀 🚀🚀🚀🚀 🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀
[2023-07-30 08:00:34] Werner : ULTRA SENDD SIR
[2023-07-30 08:00:51] Werner : LTC MA PREMIUM KING COIN
[2023-07-30 08:00:54] Werner : UP ONLY
[2023-07-30 08:00:54] $wan : :doge:
[2023-07-30 08:00:55] Werner : ONLY UP
[2023-07-30 08:01:02] Werner : :DOGE:
[2023-07-30 08:01:10] bluemaster : /position xbteur ``` :bitmex: XBTEUR: 169,200 EUR @ 27119.7472 ```
[2023-07-30 08:01:15] bluemaster : /position xbtz23 ``` :bitmex: XBTZ23: 183,400 USD @ 29911.7305 ```
[2023-07-30 08:01:15] DogeX : $wan: welcome to worms :doge:
[2023-07-30 08:01:18] bluemaster : /position xbtu23 ``` :bitmex: XBTU23: 195,200 USD @ 29505.9233 ```
[2023-07-30 08:01:22] DogeX : Werner: :doge:
[2023-07-30 08:01:41] Werner : DogeX: :DOGE: Back sirrr
[2023-07-30 08:01:48] $wan : DogeX: pink worm😍
[2023-07-30 08:02:31] Werner : You worm, you win
[2023-07-30 08:02:43] DogeX : Werner: @$wan we gona win soon worms taking over :doge:
[2023-07-30 08:02:44] Werner : you're eitther a worm or a parasite, there's no in between !
[2023-07-30 08:02:47] Werner : pure facts
[2023-07-30 08:02:51] Werner : WORM HERE
[2023-07-30 08:02:53] Werner : WORMS THERE
[2023-07-30 08:02:57] Werner : EVERYWHERE WORRMS
[2023-07-30 08:03:01] Werner : DDOMINATING THE TROLLBOX
[2023-07-30 08:03:06] Werner : YOU WORM, YOU WIN
[2023-07-30 08:03:13] Werner : :DOGE:
[2023-07-30 08:03:15] DogeX : :doge::doge::doge:
[2023-07-30 08:04:03] jjhiijiji : Dario2: because thats exactly what it is
[2023-07-30 08:04:10] jjhiijiji : i just changed it from god to bitcoin
[2023-07-30 08:04:23] Dario2 : jjhiijiji: indeed sir indeed
[2023-07-30 08:06:35] Gandalf the Grey : https://www.tradingview.com/x/mj8lBeIJ/ hehe whoops
[2023-07-30 08:07:27] DogeX : Gandalf the Grey: tik tok :doge:
[2023-07-30 08:07:36] Gandalf the Grey : on the clock
[2023-07-30 08:07:52] bluemaster : I seen today 1400 users only m new low record ,never seen this before
[2023-07-30 08:08:39] Gandalf the Grey : bluemaster: Are you surprised? Everyone lost money or invested already. New money does not care about BTC. Hype is gone.
[2023-07-30 08:08:48] bluemaster : beras don;t be scared just dump it , I promise I will look after your bitcoin properly 😜
[2023-07-30 08:09:18] bluemaster : Gandalf the Grey: I made good this year
[2023-07-30 08:10:38] Hermite : We need to distinguish two types of cycles, (a) the cycles that are caused by financial markets, and (b) the ones caused by economic conditions. Recently, there were several studies indicating that the causation that was in place before i.e. economics dictates the behavior of financial markets, is no longer true, and the two are either decoupled or reversed, i.e. now financial markets often lead economics. In the context of bitcoin, it is especially true. The price could be and is manipulated to gain the social and sentiment movement to either force the public to sell or to buy regardless of whether there is any fundamental value. That manipulations squeeze every single penny for traders, hence the numbers drop. @bluemaster
[2023-07-30 08:11:09] Hermite : The only aspect of the market that a trader can rely on is Physics. When money flow is treated as energy. To manipulate the system, it should first receive certain amount of energy to initiate a reaction, think of it as a nuclear reaction, to start it, one need first apply a certain amount of energy. @Dario2
[2023-07-30 08:11:25] VictorAndresAmu : worm
[2023-07-30 08:12:55] Hermite : Alameda initially generated their profit by doing simple arbitrage between Japan and the US, later when they accumulated enough wealth mostly with the help of investors, they started doing market manipulation, that led to even higher profitability. They are gone, yes, but there is a number of others that doing exactly that. That is why it is important to have enough capital to sustain the deliberate attacks organized by these firms.
[2023-07-30 08:15:02] bluemaster : Hermite: in my humble opinion ,market did not change at all , price action old like hills ,when majority of traders go one way market goes opposite ...
[2023-07-30 08:15:07] Dario2 : Hermite: couldn't agree more with you. I was reading your convo from a couple of hours ago and enjoyed it. Pure facts sir +1000
[2023-07-30 08:15:31] Hermite : I think the most important assumption in trading is that the price is mean reverting, if this is indeed true, and a trader has either an infinite capital or limited capital but the trader doesn't open short positions then it is impossible to lose long term. Then the question is how long term, does someone wants to wait for the price to return to 60k. You might say averaging out might help, yes but then capital requirements start to grow. @bluemaster
[2023-07-30 08:15:47] Hermite : Dario2: Thanks 😊
[2023-07-30 08:17:17] Hermite : bluemaster: we need a new inflow of money, this might happen in the future, either by pumping the price and creating a sentiment, or if USD and EUR start to get into troubles due to debts and political instabilities.
[2023-07-30 08:21:34] Werner : A BIG BIG SEND SIRS
[2023-07-30 08:21:36] Werner : DDONT FADE THE LTC
[2023-07-30 08:22:44] DogeX : Werner: **lesss goooooo**
[2023-07-30 08:22:52] DogeX : :doge:
[2023-07-30 08:23:19] bluemaster : https://www.ac.com.au/upload/thinking.jpg
[2023-07-30 08:24:22] Gandalf the Grey : bluemaster: lol me
[2023-07-30 08:24:55] DogeX : Gandalf the Grey: 😜
[2023-07-30 08:25:07] WinstonChurchill : Hermite: lol
[2023-07-30 08:26:17] DogeX : WinstonChurchill: :doge:
[2023-07-30 08:27:29] WinstonChurchill : DogeX: :doge:
[2023-07-30 08:27:55] Hermite : WinstonChurchill: Goedemorgen 🚀🚀🚀
[2023-07-30 08:28:12] WinstonChurchill : Hermite: Good morning, sir. 🚀🚀🚀
[2023-07-30 08:28:25] SteveS. : bluemaster: your opinion is worthless. You have been wrong for 2 years and are poor.
[2023-07-30 08:28:30] Hermite : WinstonChurchill: ready for the launch :)
[2023-07-30 08:28:43] DogeX : SteveS.: looooool
[2023-07-30 08:28:52] DogeX : Hermite: :doge:
[2023-07-30 08:29:02] SteveS. : So take uoir opinion and stick it up your ar se
[2023-07-30 08:29:12] Hermite : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stjKzFPSW5Y @DogeX
[2023-07-30 08:29:12] WinstonChurchill : SteveS.: +1
[2023-07-30 08:29:16] Mr.LongBear : G M all
[2023-07-30 08:29:18] SteveS. : your*
[2023-07-30 08:29:28] DogeX : WinstonChurchill: @Mr.LongBear :doge:
[2023-07-30 08:29:34] WinstonChurchill : Mr.LongBear: rekt
[2023-07-30 08:29:41] Hermite : Mr.LongBear: 👍👍
[2023-07-30 08:29:58] Mr.LongBear : :doge::doge::doge: @WinstonChurchill @DogeX @Hermite @Gandalf the Grey @bluemaster @Werner
[2023-07-30 08:30:06] bluemaster : SteveS.: you ignored last 13 years of my prediction and unshakable commitment
[2023-07-30 08:35:32] SteveS. : bluemaster: aaah so you are a small time day scalper. Assumed as much
[2023-07-30 08:36:13] SteveS. : The past 2 years you ha e been shilling long lol
[2023-07-30 08:36:54] SteveS. : Ans after 13 years of trading you still drive a dated Hyundai truck
[2023-07-30 08:37:03] bluemaster : SteveS.: I know I am shit trader ,but what I have not going to give away ... I am here at 3k,69,and 30k doesn;t affect me ..
[2023-07-30 08:37:08] WinstonChurchill : SteveS.: :Arthur:
[2023-07-30 08:37:15] SteveS. : Dont give your labourers job mate
[2023-07-30 08:37:40] SteveS. : Dobt give up*
[2023-07-30 08:37:41] bluemaster : SteveS.: retired mate
[2023-07-30 08:37:56] WinstonChurchill : bluemaster: At what age did you retire, sir.
[2023-07-30 08:37:58] bluemaster : just cherry picking extra profitable projects @SteveS.
[2023-07-30 08:38:02] SteveS. : bluemaster: you mean tired
[2023-07-30 08:38:05] bluemaster : WinstonChurchill: 60
[2023-07-30 08:38:11] WinstonChurchill : bluemaster: Why so late
[2023-07-30 08:38:41] WinstonChurchill : Steve is already retired at 13
[2023-07-30 08:38:59] bluemaster : WinstonChurchill: you will see when yo u are 60 year old
[2023-07-30 08:39:28] bluemaster : SteveS.: burn out and tired
[2023-07-30 08:39:51] WinstonChurchill : bluemaster: meditation and intermittent fasting should help you, sir.
[2023-07-30 08:40:48] bluemaster : WinstonChurchill: I use Bitmex for mediation
[2023-07-30 08:40:58] WinstonChurchill : bluemaster: +1
[2023-07-30 08:45:48] $wan : https://imgur.com/SK3LujQ
[2023-07-30 08:46:50] Werner : Money where mouth iss
[2023-07-30 08:46:51] Werner : https://ibb.co/6HhS4wh
[2023-07-30 08:46:55] Werner : LTC SUPER KING COIN
[2023-07-30 08:46:57] Werner : MAX COIN
[2023-07-30 08:47:01] Werner : ULTIMATE PREMIUM COIN
[2023-07-30 08:47:11] Werner : MAX SSENND
[2023-07-30 08:47:29] Werner : $wan: ASSASINATE THE BEARS SIR
[2023-07-30 08:47:56] $wan : Werner: 🚀🚀🚀:btc:🚀🚀🚀
[2023-07-30 08:48:12] Werner : $wan: 🚀🚀🚀:BTC:🚀🚀🚀 BACK SIR
[2023-07-30 08:48:38] Mr.LongBear : Full moon loading to shine it’s brightness
[2023-07-30 08:48:52] Fuun : its cute when u are cute, kids.
[2023-07-30 08:49:05] Werner : Fuun: YOUR MOM ISS CUUTE
[2023-07-30 08:49:26] Fuun : what do u see again?
[2023-07-30 08:50:02] Fuun : will it work this time?
[2023-07-30 08:50:11] DogeX : :doge:
[2023-07-30 08:50:34] WinstonChurchill : Fuun: rekt
[2023-07-30 08:52:10] bluemaster : SteveS.: I am in Doha in 2 days maybe I should drop to visit you
[2023-07-30 08:52:47] Fuun : u will influence a few users, dont worry.
[2023-07-30 08:52:59] Fuun : but no need to try so hard, kids.
[2023-07-30 08:54:55] SteveS. : bluemaster: ive been to Doha twice.. horrible place
[2023-07-30 08:55:59] SteveS. : Good hotels though, only good thing about it
[2023-07-30 08:56:49] SteveS. : bluemaster: yes cone and visit, so that you can report my lifetyle back to tbox
[2023-07-30 08:58:08] Fuun : it still hurts.
[2023-07-30 08:58:14] Fuun : thats good. :joy:
[2023-07-30 08:59:59] Dario2 : bluemaster: try the al safwa or al mourjan lounge in doha. the world's best and most luxurious business class lounge. truly amazing...
[2023-07-30 09:14:21] Hermite : 💥
[2023-07-30 09:14:23] Hermite : ⬜️⬜️⬜️🟩🟩⬜️⬜️⬜️⬜️⬜️ ⬜️⬜️⬜️🟩🟩🟩🟩⬜️⬜️⬜️ ⬜️⬜️🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩⬜️⬜️ ⬜️🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩⬜️ 🟩🟩🟩⬜️🟩🟩⬜️🟩🟩🟩 🟩🟩⬜️⬜️🟩🟩⬜️⬜️🟩🟩 ⬜️⬜️⬜️⬜️🟩🟩⬜️⬜️⬜️⬜️ ⬜️⬜️⬜️⬜️🟩🟩⬜️⬜️⬜️⬜️ ⬜️⬜️⬜️⬜️🟩🟩⬜️⬜️⬜️⬜️ ⬜️⬜️⬜️⬜️🟩🟩⬜️⬜️⬜️⬜️
[2023-07-30 09:16:16] Werner : ONLY UP
[2023-07-30 09:16:43] Werner : bluemaster: Visit ssteven in his slumss and report back to the who
[2023-07-30 09:16:57] Werner : to help him and his disadvantaged matess
[2023-07-30 09:41:25] al guul : gm and puump eet 🚀
[2023-07-30 09:53:56] DogeX : al guul: GM :doge:
[2023-07-30 10:07:31] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated short on `XRPUSD`: Buy 2701 Cont @ 0.7204 ($11,397.25) - :thisisfine:
[2023-07-30 10:09:07] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated short on `XRPUSD`: Buy 2000 Cont @ 0.7236 ($8,477.63) - thanks for the rocket fuel!
[2023-07-30 10:11:31] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated short on `WLDUSD`: Buy 1890 Cont @ 2.427 ($13,435.06) - Bonjour!
[2023-07-30 10:13:26] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated short on `XRPUSD`: Buy 1000 Cont @ 0.734 ($4,299.51) - up only?
[2023-07-30 10:14:56] DogeX : Xrp :doge: wow
[2023-07-30 10:18:13] Jojey : /position xbtusd GM ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: 70,000 USD @ 29310.75 ```
[2023-07-30 10:22:57] clarknova : uh oh
[2023-07-30 10:24:23] RonnieREKT : Le dump?
[2023-07-30 10:27:21] clarknova : @RonnieREKT hey o/
[2023-07-30 10:27:30] DogeX : clarknova: :doge:
[2023-07-30 10:27:41] clarknova : DogeX: :D
[2023-07-30 10:28:09] DogeX : clarknova: 😀 back
[2023-07-30 10:31:10] Senior. Professor. : DogeX: :doge:
[2023-07-30 10:31:32] al guul : purple haze
[2023-07-30 10:31:37] DogeX : Senior. Professor.: :doge: :doge:
[2023-07-30 10:37:32] jjhiijiji : is bitcoin this dead almost every sunday?
[2023-07-30 10:37:43] jjhiijiji : back in the day there was action on the weekends
[2023-07-30 10:37:52] jjhiijiji : now its dead when stockmarkets are closed?
[2023-07-30 10:39:31] jjhiijiji : even trollbox is dead ;< sad times
[2023-07-30 10:39:44] RealBawlOfLasagna : jjhiijiji: We are doing an important transition, it takes time, you'll see, boredom will end in a fashion.
[2023-07-30 10:40:31] Bubblemania : jjhiijiji: Yes, this is the case since Wall Street got into it
[2023-07-30 10:40:39] jjhiijiji : ;<
[2023-07-30 10:41:16] Bubblemania : This asset trades like Murrican tech stocks
[2023-07-30 10:41:56] Bubblemania : Used to be way different, far more volatile and quicer
[2023-07-30 10:42:51] Bubblemania : Some low cap alts resemble early bitcoin - pumps and dumps
[2023-07-30 10:49:59] hehe MOON : Not the same without :arthur: daily 1k scam pump and dumps :pepe:
[2023-07-30 10:51:49] Irishjim : Here we go.... the dumpening
[2023-07-30 10:52:48] hehe MOON : Silly bearas
[2023-07-30 10:54:01] Hermite : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stjKzFPSW5Y get ready for the launch 🚀 @Irishjim
[2023-07-30 10:56:12] jjhiijiji : Grichka Bogdanoff/Date of death December 28, 2021.... bitcoin will never be the same without him ;<
[2023-07-30 10:57:08] jjhiijiji : omg his twin dead too.. shame
[2023-07-30 10:59:47] jjhiijiji : :o
[2023-07-30 11:00:19] hehe MOON : :bog:
[2023-07-30 11:00:58] Hermite : jjhiijiji: 😥
[2023-07-30 11:01:23] DogeX : .doge:
[2023-07-30 11:01:32] DogeX : :doge:
[2023-07-30 11:08:59] Hermite : Bubblemania: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/mhYTPtO66-c
[2023-07-30 11:12:40] al guul : to da moon 🚀🚀🚀
[2023-07-30 11:13:07] jjhiijiji : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9MZNEXrElw we like the moon
[2023-07-30 11:22:20] bluemaster : jjhiijiji: Quant-Bot - AI-Based Trading Systems think they can kill OG's 😝
[2023-07-30 11:27:21] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated long on `XRPUSD`: Sell 127 Cont @ 0.7176 ($533.41)
[2023-07-30 11:28:04] elChisoso : First signs of "unexpected" is showing itself.
[2023-07-30 11:28:17] Fuun : cute.
[2023-07-30 11:28:38] Fuun : u kids died already a few times.
[2023-07-30 11:28:44] Fuun : dont play stupido.
[2023-07-30 11:28:50] Fuun : and ir u missed it.
[2023-07-30 11:29:04] Fuun : its hard for u to build them back up.
[2023-07-30 11:29:09] Fuun : :joy:
[2023-07-30 11:31:05] Fuun : come on, kids.
[2023-07-30 11:31:12] Fuun : its a riddle, u can handle this.
[2023-07-30 11:34:47] RealBawlOfLasagna : elChisoso: UNexpected moves time: https://www.tradingview.com/x/CTK8L3bj/
[2023-07-30 11:41:19] BigBadShort : 28000-28400
[2023-07-30 11:41:45] BigBadShort : max
[2023-07-30 11:43:58] elChisoso : RealBawlOfLasagna: Indeed, we do need some fresh "unexpected"ness in order to clear out a few not so important people.
[2023-07-30 11:44:50] RealBawlOfLasagna : elChisoso: Sorry my old friend, currently busy putting a fresh carrot on a stick.
[2023-07-30 11:44:58] Atlemos : Trendline under heavy stress!! https://www.tradingview.com/x/S8343CT3/
[2023-07-30 11:45:18] elChisoso : RealBawlOfLasagna: oh sorry mate, keep at it.
[2023-07-30 11:45:26] RealBawlOfLasagna : elChisoso: 😂😁
[2023-07-30 11:45:37] MadoffNakamoto : 💩:downrocket: down only. gravity is a b
[2023-07-30 11:46:10] elChisoso : Imagine price going lower during a bear market, what a thing.
[2023-07-30 11:47:52] RealBawlOfLasagna : elChisoso: Imagine the price doing something we have never witnessed before just to embarass any perma something **KEKLEMAO**
[2023-07-30 11:48:27] elChisoso : RealBawlOfLasagna: Whatever it does it always surprises the most.
[2023-07-30 11:48:46] elChisoso : Just need to be on the right side.
[2023-07-30 11:48:54] Hermite : WinstonChurchill: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7hVs435kxs
[2023-07-30 11:49:46] elChisoso : Imagine LTC running the market for the next 5-7 days, the rest just lags behind. That would be quite the imagination indeed.
[2023-07-30 11:50:04] Hermite : quite a nice mashup of smack my bitch up @WinstonChurchill
[2023-07-30 11:50:19] Hermite : elChisoso: do you trade alts?
[2023-07-30 11:50:49] elChisoso : Hermite: Nah, but I do follow the money, as it moves circular between assets.
[2023-07-30 11:51:25] Hermite : clarknova: 29300 is the bifurcation point.
[2023-07-30 11:51:32] elChisoso : LTC is usually the last to move, this time it might be special due to it's halving in 5 days.
[2023-07-30 11:51:34] Hermite : **bifurcation point** is a point in parameter space where one can expect to see a change in the qualitative behaviour of a system, e.g., loss of stability of a solution or the emergence of a new solution with different properties.
[2023-07-30 11:52:04] Hermite : elChisoso: have you tried computing Granger causality ?
[2023-07-30 11:52:20] Hermite : elChisoso: I recommend wavelet coherence analysis thou
[2023-07-30 11:52:47] elChisoso : Hermite: No, or maybe? I have my own thing that works quite well, maybe its the same stuff or similar. Not that familiar with that one.
[2023-07-30 11:53:46] elChisoso : I analize orderbooks and tick volume on certain assets over time, compares the delta and then present a summary on where money is most likely moving to or from at a particular point in time.
[2023-07-30 11:54:17] clarknova : Hermite: Slightly higher in my chart https://www.tradingview.com/x/yHJC0G5p/
[2023-07-30 11:56:07] Hermite : elChisoso: There are open source libraries that will let you compute pairwise relations, similar to this https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0123923
[2023-07-30 11:56:23] Hermite : elChisoso: but you have to do that for pairs for cryptocurrencies
[2023-07-30 11:57:17] Hermite : clarknova: oh that's on daily candles :)
[2023-07-30 11:57:23] elChisoso : Hermite: Yeah, but doing what everyone else is doing, usually only works to a point. I am looking for that extra edge by doing something other people are not. Sometime it is helpful to compare what those open source libs results into as well. The difference might be or not be significant.
[2023-07-30 11:57:57] Hermite : elChisoso: I see
[2023-07-30 11:58:32] elChisoso : Hermite: I have this theory, something only works for as long as it is not commonly known.
[2023-07-30 11:58:59] Hermite : elChisoso: absolutely, that's called having an edge :)
[2023-07-30 11:59:57] Hermite : **29300** 🚀 or :downrocket: ❓❔❓
[2023-07-30 12:00:08] elChisoso : Hermite: If it stops working, adapt. Quickly or you get barbequed alive.
[2023-07-30 12:00:20] Hermite : elChisoso: yep
[2023-07-30 12:01:18] elChisoso : It will likely pump into the new week, continue dump during the week. Or other way around. We'll see. Sunday is watch and have popcorn day.
[2023-07-30 12:02:18] Hermite : elChisoso: 😀
[2023-07-30 12:02:40] Werner : UP ONLY
[2023-07-30 12:02:43] Werner : ONLY UP
[2023-07-30 12:02:56] elChisoso : I wish I was born with Werners positivity.
[2023-07-30 12:07:07] MrBritcoin : bluemaster: 😏
[2023-07-30 12:08:53] Hermite : elChisoso: he is actually having troubles, he can't get an insurance for his car, that prevents him from driving his uber and making money. Also, he has to change houses. Finding a house is troublesome, everything is expansive in Australia, especially rent. He needs our help... to help him start generating some profit on bitmex consistently.
[2023-07-30 12:09:27] clarknova : Hermite: yes
[2023-07-30 12:14:28] bearmaster : Shetty poepie coin dead for weeks
[2023-07-30 12:14:49] bearmaster : Nothing to earn here nerds