This is a mirror of the original BitMEX trollbox archive that used to be online here.
BitMEX disabled their archive after the DDOS attack so I have decided to make my mirror publicly available.

Well now, a few days after I made this mirror available to the public, the original archive from BitMEX is online again.
But since it is still limited (neutered to the last few hundred messages) I will keep my FULL mirror alive.

You have access to more than 50 million trollbox posts. This is more than 7 gigabyte of data hosted on a $5 server so please be patient or consider a donation

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[2023-07-20 21:52:33] Fuun : okay.
[2023-07-20 21:52:45] Fuun : no need to get quite, kids.
[2023-07-20 21:55:29] Fuun : this quite is wrong, right?
[2023-07-20 21:55:40] Fuun : is it quiet?
[2023-07-20 22:00:39] MrBritcoin : market hungery
[2023-07-20 22:11:47] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated short on `LINKUSD`: Buy 3025 Cont @ 8.32 ($7,507.98) - Another soul has been claimed
[2023-07-20 22:19:01] Joeyy132 : Link 12 dollars each by tomorrow
[2023-07-20 22:19:03] Joeyy132 : ez money
[2023-07-20 22:19:14] Joeyy132 : Link not moved in yonk
[2023-07-20 22:19:22] Joeyy132 : gon be masive
[2023-07-20 22:21:21] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated short on `LINKUSD`: Buy 300 Cont @ 8.368 ($749.13)
[2023-07-20 22:22:15] MrBritcoin : Joeyy132: i dont play with alts m8 there dangerous
[2023-07-20 22:24:13] MrBritcoin : a little fractal of the larger one
[2023-07-20 22:27:15] MrBritcoin : https://youtu.be/3mZ2-aEDAzc
[2023-07-20 22:30:06] Son-of-SteveS. : mmm
[2023-07-20 22:30:18] Son-of-SteveS. : never fear when Son of SteveS. is here
[2023-07-20 22:30:31] Son-of-SteveS. : 👇
[2023-07-20 22:32:35] Fuun : who hurt u today, kid?
[2023-07-20 22:32:51] Fuun : tell us the nickname and we will remove it.
[2023-07-20 22:33:11] Fuun : :joy: still mental damaged u are.
[2023-07-20 22:35:10] Fuun : is was emotional damaged, sorry.
[2023-07-20 22:35:25] Fuun : and the t changed into an s.
[2023-07-20 22:35:31] Fuun : interesting.
[2023-07-20 23:01:20] hehe MOON : Son-of-SteveS.: Get your finger out your ass
[2023-07-20 23:02:00] Vita X : The BMEX token has been trading below $0.390 for the past few months, and it has shown few signs of life. This is a concerning trend, as it suggests that the token is losing its appeal to investors.
[2023-07-20 23:02:15] Vita X : There are a few reasons why BMEX might be struggling. First, the overall cryptocurrency market has been in a downturn, and this has dragged down the price of BMEX along with it. Second, BMEX has not been able to generate much excitement or buzz, and this has made it difficult to attract new investors.
[2023-07-20 23:02:27] Vita X : However, there are some reasons to be optimistic about BMEX. The token has a strong team of developers, and they are working on a number of projects that could help to boost the price of BMEX. Additionally, BMEX is still relatively new, and it has the potential to grow in popularity as more people become aware of it.
[2023-07-20 23:02:31] Vita X : Overall, the outlook for BMEX is uncertain. The token is facing some challenges, but it also has some potential. Only time will tell whether BMEX will be able to overcome its current difficulties and start to rebound.
[2023-07-20 23:03:00] Vita X : What do you think's gonna happen? 😂
[2023-07-20 23:05:58] Fuun : do u have a DJ, kids?
[2023-07-20 23:07:02] Fuun : is from nipsey.
[2023-07-20 23:07:06] MrBritcoin : bmex moon
[2023-07-20 23:07:10] Fuun : https://youtu.be/7Wgdn9BLDvw
[2023-07-20 23:07:15] Fuun : and logout.
[2023-07-20 23:07:25] Fuun : still nobody here u can influence.
[2023-07-20 23:09:27] MrBritcoin : it cant get much worse can it
[2023-07-20 23:09:43] Fuun : if u are still around u can search for.
[2023-07-20 23:10:08] Fuun : affirmative action from nas.
[2023-07-20 23:10:59] MrBritcoin : trouble is people aint flowing in to bitmex exchange like they used to be
[2023-07-20 23:13:12] Fuun : if u are picky today, go for the track from berner and nef the pharaoh.
[2023-07-20 23:13:24] Fuun : for the kids on a mission, search for.
[2023-07-20 23:13:25] MrBritcoin : is say it might play more in bitmex`s favoure if they comply with laws in different country's if they could get mericans back on side then well would be turning point
[2023-07-20 23:13:44] Fuun : i remember from $tupid young.
[2023-07-20 23:14:18] MrBritcoin : i guess its all about regulations
[2023-07-20 23:18:44] Fuun : maybe u need something dark, wait.
[2023-07-20 23:19:01] Vita X : 🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨
[2023-07-20 23:19:10] Fuun : okay, go for.
[2023-07-20 23:19:29] Fuun : forever and a day from freddie gibbs.
[2023-07-20 23:28:21] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated short on `LINKUSD`: Buy 10888 Cont @ 8.365 ($27,151.61)
[2023-07-20 23:29:03] Fuun : sad.
[2023-07-20 23:30:34] migozelaaa : 🚀🚀🚀
[2023-07-20 23:36:42] Hermite : bmex
[2023-07-20 23:42:45] Werner : YOU WORM, YOU WIN
[2023-07-20 23:42:52] Werner : Hermite: @migozelaaa 🚀🚀🚀
[2023-07-20 23:44:58] BigBadShort : Bmex down BTC down ETH down everything down. Bmex like 0.1 probably
[2023-07-20 23:45:24] BigBadShort : It's coin which Pez sells when exchange is down :)
[2023-07-21 00:11:23] Werner : https://twitter.com/JustWormsdao/status/1682180243958939648
[2023-07-21 00:32:29] Joeyy132 : All in short guys
[2023-07-21 00:32:35] Joeyy132 : lfg
[2023-07-21 00:32:44] Joeyy132 : 11k
[2023-07-21 00:32:53] Joeyy132 : fair price for btc
[2023-07-21 00:34:12] bluemaster : :btc:
[2023-07-21 00:35:07] Joeyy132 : It’s dead bruh
[2023-07-21 00:35:33] Joeyy132 : Gotta rekt on shitcoins to pump to save btc
[2023-07-21 00:35:51] Joeyy132 : Gotta rely on shitcoins to pump to save btc
[2023-07-21 00:36:00] Joeyy132 : Rekt
[2023-07-21 00:44:40] MrBritcoin : oh happy days just ought a mini duke 125 same as my 390 none runner within 6 hrs got it going well chuffed
[2023-07-21 00:52:44] MrBritcoin : https://youtu.be/Llyx6RN_PtQ
[2023-07-21 00:52:49] MrBritcoin : same as this
[2023-07-21 00:58:58] MrBritcoin : https://youtube.com/shorts/3veE3MFGVug?feature=share
[2023-07-21 01:07:05] MadoffNakamoto : 🏊 TO THE LIFEBOATS :downrocket:
[2023-07-21 01:07:25] MrBritcoin : https://youtu.be/yDyJe1nmSOM
[2023-07-21 01:09:53] BigBadShort : :doge:
[2023-07-21 01:19:16] MrBritcoin : can someone tell me why iv no emoji by my name
[2023-07-21 01:20:01] MrBritcoin : 😏
[2023-07-21 01:20:42] BaBot_v : /position xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: 55,900 USD @ 29868.8459 ```
[2023-07-21 01:20:52] MrBritcoin : because i would like this one if possible
[2023-07-21 01:20:57] MrBritcoin : https://prnt.sc/NW0zsZUw6NYN
[2023-07-21 01:21:58] MrBritcoin : BaBot_v: 😬
[2023-07-21 01:23:26] BaBot_v : help me god..
[2023-07-21 01:23:55] migozelaaa : 🚀🚀🚀
[2023-07-21 01:23:55] migozelaaa : BaBot_v: lol
[2023-07-21 01:26:33] MrBritcoin : BaBot_v: https://youtu.be/WHBQC0XYvYg
[2023-07-21 01:26:37] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated short on `PEPEUSDT`: Buy 300000000 PEPE @ 0.000001511 ($453.30)
[2023-07-21 01:39:37] hehe MOON : MrBritcoin: you need to make a guild with that emoji sir 😏
[2023-07-21 01:40:41] MrBritcoin : hehe MOON: an how do we go about that then
[2023-07-21 01:41:12] hehe MOON : MrBritcoin: its in the menu sir
[2023-07-21 01:41:22] MrBritcoin : cuz ill do it for me family
[2023-07-21 01:41:37] hehe MOON : "guilds"
[2023-07-21 01:41:41] MrBritcoin : oh yars
[2023-07-21 01:42:46] MrBritcoin : i usually hav the screen scrolled down a tad to get rid of all the madness up top
[2023-07-21 01:43:15] MrBritcoin : out of site out of mind type of thing
[2023-07-21 01:44:45] BitMEX_pez : yeah start a guild.
[2023-07-21 01:45:35] BitMEX_pez : I'm here to say, I'm releasing a new version of the API. If you have any issues with disconnects, please post here or twitter or support. I don't believe there will be issues, but if there are. you'll be getting logged out
[2023-07-21 01:48:56] MrBritcoin : ill wait a while
[2023-07-21 01:49:35] MrBritcoin : before i get one
[2023-07-21 01:50:02] MrBritcoin : to let you iron out the glitches first
[2023-07-21 01:51:28] MrBritcoin : like they say never get the first edition of anything get the second edition as the problems have bben ironedout
[2023-07-21 01:52:11] MrBritcoin : teething problems
[2023-07-21 01:55:04] BitMEX_pez : The websocket isn't connecting properly on the frontend so I am rolling the release back.
[2023-07-21 01:56:35] ebigreat : what happened to bitmex live trade?
[2023-07-21 01:58:28] BitMEX_pez : its back now
[2023-07-21 01:59:09] BitMEX_pez : I"ll see how long new connections were interrupted for
[2023-07-21 02:01:52] bmagic : mmm my socket isn't webbed
[2023-07-21 02:02:15] bmagic : it's webbing in and out
[2023-07-21 02:03:50] BitMEX_pez : the services are restarting it should be fine in a few seconds.
[2023-07-21 02:04:39] BitMEX_pez : all services are restarted @bmagic if you still see issues let me knwo
[2023-07-21 02:20:02] Rectile the reptile : brullrun restarted
[2023-07-21 02:20:50] bmagic : BitMEX_pez: THANSK SIR
[2023-07-21 02:21:10] bmagic : woops - capslock and ended up retarded
[2023-07-21 02:21:19] bmagic : Rectile the reptile: https://www.tradingview.com/x/zlj0HC64
[2023-07-21 02:21:32] bmagic : we been stalking the ATH downtrend
[2023-07-21 02:21:38] bmagic : every time its hit this level it's failed
[2023-07-21 02:21:50] bmagic : i'm ready for a bull run
[2023-07-21 02:22:19] SimioShort : go go xrp !! :O
[2023-07-21 02:22:23] bmagic : Pretty ordinary trend https://www.tradingview.com/x/RhGpXRpH
[2023-07-21 02:23:08] bmagic : https://www.tradingview.com/x/hFlXThtf
[2023-07-21 02:26:24] Rectile the reptile : :Arthur:
[2023-07-21 02:27:43] Rectile the reptile : 3 bullruns for bullrunners
[2023-07-21 02:34:39] Hermite : bmagic: you've missed the second hump.
[2023-07-21 02:35:16] Hermite : here https://www.tradingview.com/x/RhGpXRpH
[2023-07-21 02:36:08] bmagic : niceee
[2023-07-21 02:36:42] bmagic : oh wait thats my TA
[2023-07-21 02:40:01] XRP Whale : Hermite: yo yo yo :doge:
[2023-07-21 02:40:20] Hermite : XRP Whale: 🚀🚀🚀
[2023-07-21 02:40:40] MrBritcoin : bmagic: https://www.tradingview.com/x/P8JEqmqp/
[2023-07-21 02:40:44] MrBritcoin : 😏
[2023-07-21 02:40:59] MrBritcoin : 😬
[2023-07-21 02:41:39] MrBritcoin : https://www.tradingview.com/x/mS0lCWZj/
[2023-07-21 02:41:42] MrBritcoin : 3d
[2023-07-21 02:42:03] MrBritcoin : an oscillator
[2023-07-21 02:42:52] MrBritcoin : money frlow has been red for a couple days now
[2023-07-21 02:42:58] bmagic : the warehouse!
[2023-07-21 02:43:03] bmagic : yes i also see 18k
[2023-07-21 02:43:10] bmagic : but i see 36k first
[2023-07-21 02:43:27] MrBritcoin : bmagic: gets worse im seein 9k
[2023-07-21 02:43:38] bmagic : eh i have to be conservative
[2023-07-21 02:43:42] Andy RSA : SteveS.: He has about 20 profiles
[2023-07-21 02:43:43] bmagic : i welcome 9k but come on
[2023-07-21 02:43:48] BigBadShort : :doge:
[2023-07-21 02:44:20] MrBritcoin : https://www.tradingview.com/x/eokgV2Zt/
[2023-07-21 02:45:24] MrBritcoin : some one tell the bot traders to flip to short bots
[2023-07-21 02:45:46] MrBritcoin : or shoulkd we just rape bots
[2023-07-21 02:46:01] MrBritcoin : wait that sound s wrong
[2023-07-21 02:46:22] MrBritcoin : 😏
[2023-07-21 02:48:11] MrBritcoin : well i was going to go to sleeep but leaving chat on the last comment with that in my head i dont want to do lol
[2023-07-21 02:51:47] MrBritcoin : woow this place is really dead
[2023-07-21 02:52:06] MrBath : :pepe:
[2023-07-21 02:52:22] MrBritcoin : has ponzi killed 90%
[2023-07-21 02:52:41] MrBath : gg
[2023-07-21 02:55:40] MrBritcoin : https://prnt.sc/eY7doLUL3Xhd
[2023-07-21 03:12:45] MrBritcoin : https://www.tradingview.com/x/GeGmfSn5
[2023-07-21 03:16:02] hehe MOON : MrBritcoin: bearas getting raped since 15k 😏
[2023-07-21 03:49:13] bmagic : the risk to reward here has to be long surely
[2023-07-21 03:49:19] bmagic : anyway - open ended
[2023-07-21 04:12:08] BigBadShort : Hello!
[2023-07-21 04:12:45] BigBadShort : MrBritcoin: do you think can go back to 32.5?
[2023-07-21 04:13:04] BigBadShort : Actually of cause it can :)
[2023-07-21 04:22:15] Bubblemania : Yes it will go to 33k but probably not from here. It distributed 30-31,5 range nicely and needs to go lower to reload
[2023-07-21 04:25:26] Gjergj : :doge:
[2023-07-21 04:40:29] Hermite : it is over
[2023-07-21 04:46:05] Gjergj : :bog: flashnuke it to 16 keks
[2023-07-21 04:46:09] Gjergj : imagine to liqs
[2023-07-21 04:46:13] Gjergj : the liqs
[2023-07-21 04:46:14] Gjergj : kek
[2023-07-21 04:50:46] Hermite : Gjergj: Almost ten years ago there was a Bitcoin flash crash https://www.ft.com/content/a8018b43-a3ba-3ade-97a3-3caf636ad894 since then I remember at least 3 or 4 flash crashes.
[2023-07-21 04:53:42] Gjergj : march 2020
[2023-07-21 04:53:47] Gjergj : my favorite one
[2023-07-21 04:53:53] Gjergj : "favorite" xD
[2023-07-21 04:54:22] Gjergj : :arthur: turned it off and on again only to short squeeze everyone lmao and that was the bottom
[2023-07-21 05:10:20] bmagic : come on China
[2023-07-21 05:10:23] bmagic : show us what you're made off
[2023-07-21 05:10:44] bmagic : 31j
[2023-07-21 05:10:45] bmagic : 31k
[2023-07-21 05:17:07] VictorAndresAmu : kid yu know is falling to 20K
[2023-07-21 05:17:42] XRP Whale : Hermite: :doge:
[2023-07-21 05:28:29] bmagic : from what i can see we're heading back to 30k
[2023-07-21 05:35:10] Joeyy132 : I don’t understand how but I has a stop loss get hit overnight . The stop loss was for a loss but I have woken up with realised pnl . When my stop loss was for a loss. How can I possibly have profit it doesn’t make any sense
[2023-07-21 05:35:18] Hermite : XRP Whale: :downrocket:
[2023-07-21 05:35:32] Joeyy132 : /pnl bchusdt ``` :bitmex: BCHUSDT: 60.11 USDT RPNL, -132.63 USDT UPNL ```
[2023-07-21 05:35:59] Joeyy132 : how is this possible to have 60 usd profit when I sold in a loss?
[2023-07-21 05:36:10] Joeyy132 : I am on cross. Anyone know?
[2023-07-21 05:36:59] Hermite : Joeyy132: a bug in the matching engine❔
[2023-07-21 05:37:29] SteveS. : Andy RSA: yes,Werner is a tragic case tbh.
[2023-07-21 05:37:45] Joeyy132 : Hermite: what di u mean? My wallet balance has increased after I hit a stop loss
[2023-07-21 05:37:54] Joeyy132 : makes 0 semse
[2023-07-21 05:37:57] Senior. Professor. : SteveS.: @BitMEX_Hans May this weekend be relaxing enough to let go of all your worries, ser. :doge: :catjam:
[2023-07-21 05:38:21] Joeyy132 : I checked my fills and it sold lower than I bought but I have profit?
[2023-07-21 05:38:36] bmagic : Joeyy132: Are you Alameda Research Pty Ltd?
[2023-07-21 05:38:44] BitMEX_Hans : Joeyy132: I strongly assume you had an open cross margin position?
[2023-07-21 05:38:54] Hermite : Joeyy132: it is probably a bug, I am sure it was altcoints, right?
[2023-07-21 05:39:00] Joeyy132 : BitMEX_Hans: yes so?
[2023-07-21 05:39:07] BitMEX_Hans : cross margin positions take profit every 10 minutes (whenever the position is in profit)
[2023-07-21 05:39:09] Joeyy132 : how can I have profit after selling in a loss?
[2023-07-21 05:39:14] Senior. Professor. : BitMEX_Hans: +1
[2023-07-21 05:39:21] Hermite : Joeyy132: Several people complained on similar behvaior for alt coints
[2023-07-21 05:39:38] Joeyy132 : /position bchusdt ``` :bitmex: BCHUSDT: 42.7 BCH @ 244.6775 ```
[2023-07-21 05:40:11] Hermite : BitMEX_Hans: It takes profit every 10 minutes. What do you mean?
[2023-07-21 05:40:30] Joeyy132 : BitMEX_Hans: I still don’t get it tho? I hit a sl. Sold lower. How can I have orodit
[2023-07-21 05:40:33] Joeyy132 : profit
[2023-07-21 05:40:35] BitMEX_Hans : https://blog.bitmex.com/pnl-realisation-cross-margining/
[2023-07-21 05:40:49] Joeyy132 : Have not sold anything above my entry lol
[2023-07-21 05:41:15] bmagic : Joeyy132: is your total collateral increased by that profit?
[2023-07-21 05:41:16] BitMEX_Hans : yeah but the system automatically realised your profits when the position was in profit.
[2023-07-21 05:41:23] Hermite : BitMEX_Hans: oh wow there was a change, let me read it carefully
[2023-07-21 05:41:40] BitMEX_Hans : Hermite: however, if you don't like this feature, you can turn it off on the preferences page
[2023-07-21 05:41:47] bmagic : Hermite: like 3 months ago
[2023-07-21 05:41:49] bmagic : 4
[2023-07-21 05:41:59] Hermite : BitMEX_Hans: I see, thanks for letting us know
[2023-07-21 05:41:59] Joeyy132 : bmagic: but how lol without selling anything ? Where is the profit from? I sold at a loss so my wallet balance should have decreased but it increased
[2023-07-21 05:42:19] Hermite : bmagic: yeah still recent, given that I am here since the begining of 2017
[2023-07-21 05:42:22] bmagic : Joeyy132: auto realisation of PNL every 10 minutes on open positions.
[2023-07-21 05:42:30] bmagic : cross-margin open positions
[2023-07-21 05:42:37] Joeyy132 : bmagic: but it hasn’t realised any loss
[2023-07-21 05:42:43] bmagic : you PNL will be the net of any losses
[2023-07-21 05:42:56] bmagic : so you've made profits exceeding the loss since your stop loss was hit
[2023-07-21 05:43:13] bmagic : unless you don't have an open position
[2023-07-21 05:43:32] Joeyy132 : But how have I made profits lol
[2023-07-21 05:43:44] Joeyy132 : i haven’t sold anything only what I sold at a loss
[2023-07-21 05:43:50] bmagic : do you have an open position?
[2023-07-21 05:43:50] Joeyy132 : so where is my profit come from
[2023-07-21 05:44:12] Joeyy132 : /position bchusdt ``` :bitmex: BCHUSDT: 42.7 BCH @ 244.6775 ```
[2023-07-21 05:44:29] Joeyy132 : bmagic: I had a partial sl
[2023-07-21 05:44:32] bmagic : ok - so at some point in time since your SL was hit you have been in profit.
[2023-07-21 05:44:33] Joeyy132 : have more lowef
[2023-07-21 05:44:38] bmagic : it hasn't recognised your lossess yet
[2023-07-21 05:44:49] bmagic : it only recognises profits
[2023-07-21 05:44:50] Joeyy132 : Makes 0 sense
[2023-07-21 05:45:05] bmagic : auto-profit realisation
[2023-07-21 05:45:09] bmagic : 10 minute intervals
[2023-07-21 05:45:18] bmagic : UPNL will probably be in the red still
[2023-07-21 05:45:51] Joeyy132 : bmagic: yes it is but still. How have I realised it? Where does that margin come from. All I’ve done is sell in a loss
[2023-07-21 05:46:08] Joeyy132 : /pnl bchusdt ``` :bitmex: BCHUSDT: 60.11 USDT RPNL, -141.38 USDT UPNL ```
[2023-07-21 05:46:25] bmagic : i think you just answered your own question
[2023-07-21 05:46:36] bmagic : i'd read the blog from bitmex again
[2023-07-21 05:46:40] bmagic : wrap your head around it.
[2023-07-21 05:47:02] bmagic : its not true profit sir
[2023-07-21 05:47:04] Senior. Professor. : @BitMEX_Hans May this weekend be relaxing enough to let go of all your worries, ser. :doge: :catjam:
[2023-07-21 05:47:39] Joeyy132 : Makes 0 sense
[2023-07-21 05:47:51] Joeyy132 : 0
[2023-07-21 05:47:51] BitMEX_Hans : Senior. Professor.: thank you sir! The week was tough indeed.
[2023-07-21 05:48:08] Joeyy132 : how can I have profit. When all I’ve done is sell in a loss. It’s really quite simple
[2023-07-21 05:48:17] Joeyy132 : It’s not possible
[2023-07-21 05:48:45] Hermite : by the way regarding bugs, I am not making it up, there were bugs on alts, when one gets profit even when the position closes in loss. For instance, once it was over year ago, when luna collapsed.
[2023-07-21 05:48:57] Senior. Professor. : BitMEX_Hans: Hope the coming weeks would be less tough :catjam:
[2023-07-21 05:49:04] bmagic : Joeyy132: you don't have profit
[2023-07-21 05:49:06] Joeyy132 : bmagic: so how does it realise it then? Without selling
[2023-07-21 05:49:32] bmagic : at any point in time you're in profit during a 10m interval bitmex engine realises the profit automatically
[2023-07-21 05:49:47] Joeyy132 : Lol u say that but u still don’t explain how
[2023-07-21 05:49:49] bmagic : so if u dip into loss after that your collateral is available for use
[2023-07-21 05:49:52] Joeyy132 : how can it be realised
[2023-07-21 05:49:55] Joeyy132 : withiut selling
[2023-07-21 05:49:57] bmagic : but you're in unrealised loss
[2023-07-21 05:50:38] Joeyy132 : Platform is fucked. This is what will probably bring down bitmex
[2023-07-21 05:50:39] Joeyy132 : broken
[2023-07-21 05:50:42] bmagic : Joeyy132: your liquidation point will have tightened to compensate
[2023-07-21 05:50:48] Joeyy132 : very bad signs for bitmex future
[2023-07-21 05:50:58] BitMEX_Hans : Joeyy132: huh
[2023-07-21 05:50:59] Joeyy132 : bmagic: no lol my liq got even further away
[2023-07-21 05:51:07] bmagic : thats because your position is smaller
[2023-07-21 05:51:14] Joeyy132 : bmagic: yes
[2023-07-21 05:51:15] bmagic : not because you have profit
[2023-07-21 05:51:22] Joeyy132 : bmagic: I know
[2023-07-21 05:51:22] BitMEX_Hans : yeah because you had a cross margin position and a higher wallet balances due to the realised profit
[2023-07-21 05:51:23] bmagic : if you had the same position without al oss
[2023-07-21 05:51:28] bmagic : you liquidation point would be even further
[2023-07-21 05:51:49] bmagic : Joeyy you're oversimplifying a simple thing
[2023-07-21 05:51:49] Joeyy132 : bmagic: no it wouldn’t lol
[2023-07-21 05:51:53] bmagic : yes it would
[2023-07-21 05:51:55] Joeyy132 : Wow
[2023-07-21 05:51:57] Senior. Professor. : Joeyy132: Just uncheck the Instant PnL Realisation and you will all be good, ser.
[2023-07-21 05:52:00] Senior. Professor. : :doge:
[2023-07-21 05:52:13] BitMEX_Hans : Joeyy132: it's kinda tricky to wrap your head around how this feature works. You can disable it in your preferences though.
[2023-07-21 05:52:27] Joeyy132 : bmagic: bruh before my sl got hit my liq was closer
[2023-07-21 05:52:41] Joeyy132 : So no it would not be further
[2023-07-21 05:52:49] bmagic : do you have the same position size?
[2023-07-21 05:52:50] bmagic : no
[2023-07-21 05:53:01] bmagic : you realised the loss
[2023-07-21 05:53:08] Joeyy132 : Exactly
[2023-07-21 05:53:15] Joeyy132 : i realised the loss and my rpnl is positive
[2023-07-21 05:53:24] Joeyy132 : platform broken
[2023-07-21 05:53:39] Joeyy132 : I don’t care how u think I should wrap my head around it . It should never work this way
[2023-07-21 05:53:55] Joeyy132 : giving margin to people of out of thin air
[2023-07-21 05:53:57] Joeyy132 : brillint
[2023-07-21 05:54:13] BitMEX_Hans : Joeyy132: https://blog.bitmex.com/pnl-realisation-cross-margining/
[2023-07-21 05:54:18] BitMEX_Hans : take a look
[2023-07-21 05:54:21] Joeyy132 : not complaining but I know bitmex is increased risk when working this way
[2023-07-21 05:54:37] Joeyy132 : why would I turn off the feauture when it’s clearly benefited me
[2023-07-21 05:54:38] bmagic : it's increasing your risk if you're not managing your losses
[2023-07-21 05:54:39] BitMEX_Hans : Joeyy132: stop this nonsense and read how the feature works.
[2023-07-21 05:54:50] Joeyy132 : bmagic: no I’m saying it’s increased bitmex risk
[2023-07-21 05:54:51] Joeyy132 : not mine
[2023-07-21 05:54:58] bmagic : lol no it hasn't
[2023-07-21 05:54:59] Joeyy132 : bitmex is rekt introducing this
[2023-07-21 05:55:00] BitMEX_Hans : Joeyy132: our platform is not in risk for providing users with a good feature
[2023-07-21 05:55:09] bmagic : dude you're a smart guy - just read the article and figure it out
[2023-07-21 05:55:16] bmagic : enough of your dumb shit
[2023-07-21 05:55:41] Senior. Professor. : Joeyy132: Sir, there are two Scenarios given with examples. Just a take look at the link @BitMEX_Hans referred you to, sir. Pay attention to the two scenarios to understand how it works
[2023-07-21 05:55:45] Joeyy132 : Ok I’ll have a read but no matter what I read I know that if I have not sold anything higher than where I bought, I should not have lrofit
[2023-07-21 05:55:46] Joeyy132 : skmple
[2023-07-21 05:55:58] BitMEX_Hans : Joeyy132: but I am with you, there should be something like a dashboard that maybe even shows where profits were taken in a more visual way.
[2023-07-21 05:56:02] Joeyy132 : I’ll have a read
[2023-07-21 05:56:20] bmagic : There could be transparency regarding original positions for this feature to be used
[2023-07-21 05:56:22] BitMEX_Hans : Joeyy132: yeah you did not sell, but the system automatically took priof=
[2023-07-21 05:56:29] BitMEX_Hans : profits when your position was in profit
[2023-07-21 05:56:34] bmagic : It's difficult for experienced traders to visualise their true PNL from it
[2023-07-21 05:57:19] BitMEX_Hans : bmagic: if you hover over the position, you see the price where profits were taken.
[2023-07-21 05:57:26] BitMEX_Hans : The entry price for example
[2023-07-21 06:10:05] Fuun : cute.
[2023-07-21 06:10:14] Fuun : read it.
[2023-07-21 06:10:25] Joeyy132 : Lol u keep saying that
[2023-07-21 06:10:34] Joeyy132 : but where does the profit come from? Thin air
[2023-07-21 06:10:46] Joeyy132 : it didn’t come from someone buying what I was selling that’s for sure
[2023-07-21 06:10:49] Joeyy132 : so where?
[2023-07-21 06:11:02] Joeyy132 : It’s a zero sum game remmeber
[2023-07-21 06:11:07] Joeyy132 : bitmex giving free momey
[2023-07-21 06:12:18] bmagic : theoretically yeah
[2023-07-21 06:12:23] Joeyy132 : Thank you for the fee money bitmex
[2023-07-21 06:12:28] Joeyy132 : Makes a change
[2023-07-21 06:12:35] bmagic : in reality no - there's no realisation until you close position
[2023-07-21 06:12:39] Joeyy132 : So let me ask you this
[2023-07-21 06:12:55] bmagic : it increases your buying power and risk at the same time.
[2023-07-21 06:13:15] Joeyy132 : if I had a position it was stitting in profit for 3 days but I never sell any of it. After 3 days it goes back to break even and I come out
[2023-07-21 06:13:31] Joeyy132 : will I still end up with profit from this 3 days sitting in profit ???
[2023-07-21 06:13:32] bmagic : you hold the peak profit as collateral
[2023-07-21 06:13:38] bmagic : as realised
[2023-07-21 06:13:48] bmagic : then when you closes it autobalances to true profit
[2023-07-21 06:14:10] Joeyy132 : It’s just nonsesne
[2023-07-21 06:14:21] Joeyy132 : Bitmex Shayne broken lol
[2023-07-21 06:14:26] Joeyy132 : System
[2023-07-21 06:14:28] bmagic : so if you had 100 dollars and it peaks at 100% profit then returns to 50% loss you hold 200 collateral even though the net position value is 100 dollars.
[2023-07-21 06:14:54] bmagic : but if you closes you made 0 profit
[2023-07-21 06:15:09] bmagic : your collateral returns to 100 less fees.
[2023-07-21 06:15:30] BitMEX_Hans : Joeyy132: "but where does the profit come from? Thin air" as written in the article that I shared before. Let's say you open a position worth 1 XBT at 20,000. The price goes to 20200 and you're 200 in profit. The system will automatically realise the $200 profit and update your entry price to 20200. If the price of Bitcoin drops to 20100 after the system took profits, you're $100 in a loss. So the profit since you initially opened the position is only $100.
[2023-07-21 06:16:19] Fuun : oh, okay.
[2023-07-21 06:16:35] Fuun : dont read it, sorry our mistake.
[2023-07-21 06:16:36] Senior. Professor. : Fuun: 🖕🖕🖕🖕
[2023-07-21 06:16:37] Joeyy132 : Lol that’s mad
[2023-07-21 06:16:40] bmagic : i think Joeyy is asking how Bitmex is funding the profit realisation if there isn't a direct sell order to facilitate the order flow.
[2023-07-21 06:16:56] bmagic : its not spot trading
[2023-07-21 06:16:57] Joeyy132 : Still doesn’t explain where the free margin comes from
[2023-07-21 06:17:14] bmagic : the engine feeds you and takes from you at the same time.
[2023-07-21 06:17:42] Joeyy132 : bmagic: That’s what I’m asking yeah
[2023-07-21 06:18:05] Joeyy132 : That but they can’t explain
[2023-07-21 06:18:09] Joeyy132 : the inner workings
[2023-07-21 06:18:44] Joeyy132 : Bitmex will end up rekt from implementing this feature
[2023-07-21 06:19:03] Joeyy132 : Great for custimers
[2023-07-21 06:19:15] bmagic : why? this feature is actually bad for the average customer
[2023-07-21 06:19:37] bmagic : most people will lose by exposing themself to too much risk based on realised "unrealised" profits
[2023-07-21 06:19:51] Joeyy132 : There are deffo exploits on this feature lol
[2023-07-21 06:19:52] bmagic : its the customers fault though
[2023-07-21 06:19:55] Joeyy132 : ill figure one out
[2023-07-21 06:20:14] Joeyy132 : bmagic: that is true most will overexpose
[2023-07-21 06:20:16] bmagic : the only exploit is if you keep adding collateral everytime it auto realises
[2023-07-21 06:20:23] bmagic : then the risk exposure is balanced.
[2023-07-21 06:20:46] bmagic : but you still have risk to lose exponentially
[2023-07-21 06:20:50] bmagic : so its still consumer risk
[2023-07-21 06:21:08] Joeyy132 : Nah if u use this properly it deffo give su an edge
[2023-07-21 06:21:12] Joeyy132 : man’s exploit
[2023-07-21 06:21:16] bmagic : anyway - risk manage and you'll be fine - feature is handy but not ideal for everyone
[2023-07-21 06:21:41] bmagic : Bitmex probably encourages you to find the exploit because there isn't one.
[2023-07-21 06:22:03] bmagic : it's not free money sir - its auto balancing against your own collateral risk
[2023-07-21 06:22:31] bmagic : you pay for added collateral by changing your entry price.
[2023-07-21 06:22:43] BitMEX_Hans : Joeyy132: why would BitMEX end up rekt? :)
[2023-07-21 06:23:03] BitMEX_Hans : for any profits on the platform there are always losses
[2023-07-21 06:23:24] BitMEX_Hans : the system is clever enough to handle that lmao
[2023-07-21 06:27:56] BitMEX_shiva : gm trollbox fam!
[2023-07-21 06:28:49] Senior. Professor. : BitMEX_shiva: GM, ser. May this weekend be relaxing enough to let go of all your worries, ser. :doge: :catjam:
[2023-07-21 06:32:01] Joeyy132 : I get it. The money used to fund all this free money given to customers comes from the pot which fills when admins sell bitmex tokem
[2023-07-21 06:32:10] Joeyy132 : so the free money comes from bitmex token
[2023-07-21 06:32:11] Joeyy132 : got it
[2023-07-21 06:32:24] Joeyy132 : Bmex 10c soon
[2023-07-21 06:33:06] Joeyy132 : When I find exploit I’ll let admin know
[2023-07-21 06:33:23] Dandoreal : The instant PNL just misses a Profit Price column which tells the price at which the profit is taken
[2023-07-21 06:34:01] Dandoreal : Joeyy132: if you close at break even there are still the funding profits
[2023-07-21 06:34:58] BitMEX_shiva : Senior. Professor.:Gm ser Prof, thank you for your blessings, and sending some lightning super vibes over from BitMEX HQ :doge:
[2023-07-21 06:35:02] Joeyy132 : I gtg work guys
[2023-07-21 06:35:12] Joeyy132 : have a brilliant day all of u
[2023-07-21 06:40:05] Hermite : BitMEX_shiva: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAyMwDVotOc
[2023-07-21 06:40:13] Son-of-SteveS. : mmm
[2023-07-21 06:40:18] Hermite : Joeyy132: @Son-of-SteveS. 👍👍
[2023-07-21 06:40:28] Son-of-SteveS. : never fear when Son of SteveS. is near
[2023-07-21 06:40:35] Son-of-SteveS. : 👇
[2023-07-21 06:43:13] BitMEX_shiva : Hermite: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BC3qFSEkfIQ
[2023-07-21 07:01:09] hehe MOON : Son-of-SteveS.: Fingering your butthole again
[2023-07-21 07:01:20] Son-of-SteveS. : hehe MOON: mmm
[2023-07-21 07:01:58] hehe MOON : Son-of-SteveS.: You need a girlfriend kid
[2023-07-21 07:02:07] hehe MOON : :arthur:
[2023-07-21 07:02:15] hehe MOON : Or boyfriend
[2023-07-21 07:02:25] hehe MOON : :kek:
[2023-07-21 07:06:05] Son-of-SteveS. : i am various
[2023-07-21 07:06:59] hehe MOON : Son-of-SteveS.: You should go to Thailand then, plenty of lady boys
[2023-07-21 07:10:32] Senior. Professor. : Son-of-SteveS.: You're an imposter. I'm the Real ,Senior Professor, Son-of-SteveS.: NO! U ARE THE LIAR AND VIRUS-nOOb_PROFESSOR!! :doge: :catjam:
[2023-07-21 07:11:06] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated long on `XRPUSDT`: Sell 70 XRP @ 0.782 ($54.74)
[2023-07-21 07:11:40] Senior. Professor. : No one has ever succeeded betting against father @Werner and @hehe MOON As a general rule of thumb i would never bet against the wern ! This is all werner's genius sir. He does not copy and paste stuff from the internet. The internet copies him sir ! :doge: :catjam:
[2023-07-21 07:14:14] hehe MOON : Senior. Professor.: **Fact**
[2023-07-21 07:14:21] hehe MOON : Mahalo! Sir
[2023-07-21 07:28:21] Hermite : BitMEX_shiva: @BitMEX_Hans "we enabled our new profit and loss (PnL) realisation feature – allowing cross-margining users to automatically realise their PnL for open positions, with the same margin currency, every 10 minutes." How is it realised? Is it via market or limit orders? Who pays for the fees in such events that happen every 10 minutes?
[2023-07-21 07:44:11] Gandalf the Grey : Betcon pls go to moon. Stop goooing sideways now. Tone Vays says we going down to wan k, but Mr. Novogratz says we have baaaatoooomeeed out. Battomed out. Tutududud
[2023-07-21 07:45:15] slacker+ : Gandalf the Grey: YAAS
[2023-07-21 07:46:47] slacker+ : MOON SOON mofos
[2023-07-21 07:46:47] Gandalf the Grey : Supwaaa goes tuwuwuwuwuwuw
[2023-07-21 07:47:30] slacker+ : wa goes to moon soon broes
[2023-07-21 07:48:26] bluemaster : /position xbtn23 go get me beras 😜 ``` :bitmex: XBTN23: 11,000 USD @ 30192.5986 ```
[2023-07-21 07:48:36] bluemaster : /position xbteur ``` :bitmex: XBTEUR: 127,200 EUR @ 27277.4636 ```
[2023-07-21 07:48:40] bluemaster : /position xbtz23 ``` :bitmex: XBTZ23: 183,400 USD @ 29911.7305 ```
[2023-07-21 07:48:43] bluemaster : /position xbtu23 ``` :bitmex: XBTU23: 195,200 USD @ 29505.9233 ```
[2023-07-21 07:48:59] slacker+ : bluemaster: bluemasta-chad
[2023-07-21 07:49:15] bluemaster : slacker+: 😎
[2023-07-21 07:50:17] bluemaster : in this stupid Europe I need some money called Euros
[2023-07-21 07:50:26] Gandalf the Grey : European ONION
[2023-07-21 07:51:24] Werner : KILL ALL BEARS LIL WANNABE SMARTASS SHORTER WILL HAVE A RUDE AWAKENING ONE DOES NOT SIMPLY GO AGAINST THE ALMIGHTY FINNIC99 AND WERNS AND LIVE TO SEE ANOTHER DAY CUTE LITTLE SHORTER SHAKE AT YOUR KNEES FOR I WILL VISIT YOUR LIQUIDATION AT NIGHT WHILE YOU ARE SLEEPING YOU WILL TASTE MY WRATH 🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️🚁🚁🚁🚁🚁🚁🚁🚁🚁🚁🚁🚁🚁🚁🚁🚁🚁🚁🚁🚁🚁🚁🚁🚁🚁🚁🔪🔪🔪🔪🔪🔪🔪🔪🔪🔪🔪🔪🔪🐻🐻🐻🐻🐻🐻🐻🧸🧸🧸🐻‍❄️🐻‍❄️🐻‍❄️🐼🐍🐍🐍
[2023-07-21 07:53:11] Gandalf the Grey : 25k-ish
[2023-07-21 07:53:27] Senior. Professor. : when father @Werner tell you its a send sir you better believe its only up from there forever up sir. :doge: :catjam:
[2023-07-21 07:53:38] Werner : Senior. Professor.: ONLY UP SIR
[2023-07-21 07:53:41] Werner : UP ONLY SIR
[2023-07-21 07:53:43] Werner : MAHALO !
[2023-07-21 07:54:19] Senior. Professor. : Werner: LTC SUPER PREMIUM ULTRA PRO MAX S SUPER SONIC COIN SIR :doge: :catjam:
[2023-07-21 08:01:31] slacker+ : yes market long ltc now
[2023-07-21 08:06:34] WinstonChurchill : 35k -> 49k -> 170k
[2023-07-21 08:09:23] Gjergj : btc chop
[2023-07-21 08:09:25] Gjergj : so lovely
[2023-07-21 08:10:55] Gjergj : stocks doing 2-3x meanwhile cornita with only 1x and chopped to death
[2023-07-21 08:11:01] Gjergj : even outperformed by coin
[2023-07-21 08:16:53] Gandalf the Grey : https://www.youtube.com/shorts/jM_iEiZOIbo what is this DJ doing? Just play and dance?
[2023-07-21 08:16:58] Gandalf the Grey : I do not get it lol
[2023-07-21 08:18:54] Dandoreal : Hermite: There is no pay of fees because there is no real wallet transaction
[2023-07-21 08:21:57] "it will be........" : Senior. Professor.: Aloha bitmex mascot
[2023-07-21 08:22:18] Senior. Professor. : "it will be........": mahalo :doge: :catjam: :kek: :alpaca:
[2023-07-21 08:22:51] Hermite : Dandoreal: what is your preference to enter the market? Is it with a limit order or a market?
[2023-07-21 08:25:14] Dandoreal : Mostly limit and stop limit for me
[2023-07-21 08:25:42] Finnic99 : KILL ALL BEARS LIL WANNABE SMARTASS SHORTER WILL HAVE A RUDE AWAKENING ONE DOES NOT SIMPLY GO AGAINST THE ALMIGHTY FINNIC99 AND WERNS AND LIVE TO SEE ANOTHER DAY CUTE LITTLE SHORTER SHAKE AT YOUR KNEES FOR I WILL VISIT YOUR LIQUIDATION AT NIGHT WHILE YOU ARE SLEEPING YOU WILL TASTE MY WRATH 🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️🚁🚁🚁🚁🚁🚁🚁🚁🚁🚁🚁🚁🚁🚁🚁🚁🚁🚁🚁🚁🚁🚁🚁🚁🚁🚁🔪🔪🔪🔪🔪🔪🔪🔪🔪🔪🔪🔪🔪🐻🐻🐻🐻🐻🐻🐻🧸🧸🧸🐻❄️🐻❄️🐻❄️🐼🐍🐍🐍 back sir @Werner
[2023-07-21 08:25:54] Werner : BIG BIG FACTS SIR !
[2023-07-21 08:26:09] Werner : Finnic99: KILL ALL BEARS LIL WANNABE SMARTASS SHORTER WILL HAVE A RUDE AWAKENING ONE DOES NOT SIMPLY GO AGAINST THE ALMIGHTY FINNIC99 AND WERNS AND LIVE TO SEE ANOTHER DAY CUTE LITTLE SHORTER SHAKE AT YOUR KNEES FOR I WILL VISIT YOUR LIQUIDATION AT NIGHT WHILE YOU ARE SLEEPING YOU WILL TASTE MY WRATH 🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️🚁🚁🚁🚁🚁🚁🚁🚁🚁🚁🚁🚁🚁🚁🚁🚁🚁🚁🚁🚁🚁🚁🚁🚁🚁🚁🔪🔪🔪🔪🔪🔪🔪🔪🔪🔪🔪🔪🔪🐻🐻🐻🐻🐻🐻🐻🧸🧸🧸🐻❄️🐻❄️🐻❄️🐼🐍🐍🐍 back sir
[2023-07-21 08:26:28] Hermite : Dandoreal: that is right. So every time you enter the market you pay 0.002% of your position, but if you would use a market order, you would pay 0.0075%. That is a lot!
[2023-07-21 08:28:12] Hermite : Dandoreal: Now, according to a new feature "we enabled our new profit and loss (PnL) realisation feature – allowing cross-margining users to automatically realise their PnL for open positions, with the same margin currency, every 10 minutes." every 10 minutes, the Bitmex engine realise your profit/loss, that means it has to buy or sell for you, that means you have to pay for that. Or **I hope bitmex pays**, otherwise this is a rip off!
[2023-07-21 08:28:37] Dandoreal : Depends on the trader. If you hold position longer, fees have much less impact than funding
[2023-07-21 08:29:18] Dandoreal : There is no pay of fees because there is no transaction. It is an accounting change
[2023-07-21 08:29:40] Dandoreal : Before, or with instant pnl off, positive profits go into the single position margin
[2023-07-21 08:29:52] Hermite : Dandoreal: I am not talking about the funding, I am just saying that Bitmex quietly introduce a feature to drain you account. and I would like to clarify this with @admin.
[2023-07-21 08:30:12] Dandoreal : With Instant pnl, they go instead to the account margin.
[2023-07-21 08:30:35] Hermite : Dandoreal: Do you know that you pay fees every time you enter a position?
[2023-07-21 08:31:17] Dandoreal : Yes, but not for the realize PNL because it is only an account convenience
[2023-07-21 08:32:01] Dandoreal : The fees are paid when the position is then reduced / closed
[2023-07-21 08:32:04] Dandoreal : as always
[2023-07-21 08:32:17] Hermite : Dandoreal: It says * "we enabled our new profit and loss (PnL) realisation feature...* what does realisation meant?
[2023-07-21 08:32:40] Hermite : Dandoreal: By definition realistion means fixing losses/profits.
[2023-07-21 08:33:14] Dandoreal : Means it becomes available as account margin
[2023-07-21 08:33:44] Hermite : Dandoreal: How is it possible if the losses/profits are not fixed?
[2023-07-21 08:34:36] Dandoreal : They get calculated against a Profit Price, which I hope they add as a column next to Entry Price
[2023-07-21 08:35:48] Hermite : Dandoreal: Again, I'd like to have a clear answer that every 10 minutes I don't involuntarily pay a fee. @admin
[2023-07-21 08:39:48] Hermite : Otherwise, **it gets worse and worse** (a) they change from paying a rebate on limit orders to paying a hefty fee of 0.002! (b) BTC volume has constantly going down here, it gets harder to trader, one cannot execute even positions of 100k, (c) market fee is crazy, almost twice than Binance, (d) now they might charge you on your profit and loss every 10 minutes. That's what I want to clarify.
[2023-07-21 08:42:08] Dandoreal : Maker fees were not a smart move at all
[2023-07-21 09:04:52] Werner : KILL ALL BEARS LIL WANNABE SMARTASS SHORTER WILL HAVE A RUDE AWAKENING ONE DOES NOT SIMPLY GO AGAINST THE ALMIGHTY FINNIC99 AND WERNS AND LIVE TO SEE ANOTHER DAY CUTE LITTLE SHORTER SHAKE AT YOUR KNEES FOR I WILL VISIT YOUR LIQUIDATION AT NIGHT WHILE YOU ARE SLEEPING YOU WILL TASTE MY WRATH 🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️🚁🚁🚁🚁🚁🚁🚁🚁🚁🚁🚁🚁🚁🚁🚁🚁🚁🚁🚁🚁🚁🚁🚁🚁🚁🚁🔪🔪🔪🔪🔪🔪🔪🔪🔪🔪🔪🔪🔪🐻🐻🐻🐻🐻🐻🐻🧸🧸🧸🐻❄️🐻❄️🐻❄️🐼🐍🐍🐍
[2023-07-21 09:11:19] BitMEX_Hans : Werner: bruh
[2023-07-21 09:11:32] Werner : BitMEX_Hans: chill bruh
[2023-07-21 09:11:39] Werner : its just a minor spam
[2023-07-21 09:11:47] Werner : hehe :arthur:
[2023-07-21 09:12:06] BitMEX_Hans : Hermite: there is no fee charged when profits are realised
[2023-07-21 09:14:55] BitMEX_Hans : Hermite: What's the fee on Binance? When taking a look at their fee schedule I can see they charge 0.1% on maker and taker trades. https://www.binance.com/en/fee/trading
[2023-07-21 09:15:07] BitMEX_Hans : it's 0.075% on BitMEX if you're on the lowest fee tier
[2023-07-21 09:16:38] Werner : if you're on the lowest fee tier
[2023-07-21 09:16:40] Werner : lol
[2023-07-21 09:17:18] BitMEX_Hans : Hermite: Ah you're referring to the Coin M futures?
[2023-07-21 09:17:24] Werner : you cant even see the fee
[2023-07-21 09:17:25] Werner : error
[2023-07-21 09:17:26] Werner : Application error: a client-side exception has occurred (see the browser console for more information).
[2023-07-21 09:19:04] Senior. Professor. : Werner: +1 ser :doge:
[2023-07-21 09:19:35] Werner : Senior. Professor.: fook man whats wrong with adelaide i hate this city
[2023-07-21 09:19:40] Werner : the govt is so greedy
[2023-07-21 09:19:50] Werner : even more restrictions compared to nsw
[2023-07-21 09:19:53] Werner : fookk
[2023-07-21 09:20:14] Senior. Professor. : Werner: Time to vote against Peter Malinauskas, ser. :catjam:
[2023-07-21 09:20:32] Werner : Senior. Professor.: damn sir, im voting against whoever clown is running this shtshow
[2023-07-21 09:20:35] WinstonChurchill : Werner: Time to adjust the system then, sir, I will vote for you.
[2023-07-21 09:20:42] Werner : have to go see mp sarah andrew on monday
[2023-07-21 09:20:47] Finnic99 : >constipated bearas are still yet to close a single day below 29800
[2023-07-21 09:21:19] Werner : for my document verification, looks like its the cheapest and closest option, who can wait for a minister of peace or pay the notary or oath comissioner
[2023-07-21 09:21:29] Werner : WinstonChurchill: Mahalo ssir mahalo indeed !
[2023-07-21 09:21:44] Finnic99 : >daily candles have now flattened out
[2023-07-21 09:21:55] WinstonChurchill : lol
[2023-07-21 09:22:28] Werner : also got her spam mail in my mail so would be good to see her and have a word with her
[2023-07-21 09:22:41] WinstonChurchill : Werner: Did you already graduate, sir? I forgot to ask a long time ago
[2023-07-21 09:23:02] Werner : WinstonChurchill: started the masters sir so had to move to this shthole
[2023-07-21 09:23:06] Werner : for that i moved here
[2023-07-21 09:23:12] Werner : cant even find cars here on gumtree
[2023-07-21 09:23:18] Senior. Professor. : Werner: So after Masters, you gonna apply for the post-study-work-visa, ser?
[2023-07-21 09:23:18] Werner : such little options
[2023-07-21 09:23:19] WinstonChurchill : where are you at
[2023-07-21 09:23:23] Werner : man i miss sydney
[2023-07-21 09:23:40] Werner : Senior. Professor.: probably, doesn't every 3rd world clown do that?
[2023-07-21 09:23:46] Werner : isnt that the obvious pathway
[2023-07-21 09:23:46] Werner : sir
[2023-07-21 09:23:48] Werner : mahalo !
[2023-07-21 09:23:51] Senior. Professor. : Werner: lol
[2023-07-21 09:24:08] Werner : just paying my respect to the elders past and present on their mother land for now
[2023-07-21 09:24:09] Finnic99 : >pump incoming
[2023-07-21 09:24:12] Werner : Senior. Professor.: :arthur:
[2023-07-21 09:24:20] Finnic99 : >brb
[2023-07-21 09:26:10] Senior. Professor. : Werner: Sir, New Zealand would only cost you 70% of what is costing you in Australia. Both tuition fee + Living expenses. You can get a post-study work visa in NZ only by completing a Level 7 diploma which would hardly cost you $17K NZD - for which 1 year post study visa plus you can extend further and apply PR