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[2017-04-27 20:08:06] Clock : wew
[2017-04-27 20:08:25] biz : $20 till liftoff
[2017-04-27 20:08:49] moonandgloom : Why does ETHM17 have a price premium on ETHJ17?
[2017-04-27 20:09:18] cg : finex still 18k short, ask side empty
[2017-04-27 20:10:32] Ugly_Old_Goat : biz: Nice, I remain a liight seller on scale up. But still long over 100btc, Scary to be a buyer here but it is proablly the thing to do with litttle or know risk. April promsies to end much higher than this.
[2017-04-27 20:10:39] bingbongfly : moonandgloom: because it's a future with settlement in a month
[2017-04-27 20:10:53] biz : someone going hard on swap
[2017-04-27 20:10:58] bingbongfly : moonandgloom: you pay premium because you long it without fees for a whole month
[2017-04-27 20:11:02] biz : long everything!
[2017-04-27 20:11:37] CrazySteve : /sentiment
[2017-04-27 20:11:40] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 44.84 / 55.16 Daily : 45.16 / 54.84 Weekly : 47.69 / 52.31 Monthly : 46.07 / 53.94```
[2017-04-27 20:11:57] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 1200 @ 1337.6
[2017-04-27 20:11:57] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 8500 @ 1337.7
[2017-04-27 20:12:00] Clock : cg: nobody cares about finex
[2017-04-27 20:12:07] moonandgloom : And the ETHJ17 is going away once it expires?
[2017-04-27 20:12:30] bingbongfly : moonandgloom: yes, it will stay close to settlement
[2017-04-27 20:12:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 5500 @ 1339.5
[2017-04-27 20:12:34] bingbongfly : I mean marketprice
[2017-04-27 20:12:55] bingbongfly : if it gets a discount or premium it's easy money :D
[2017-04-27 20:12:57] Ahhere : Is this gentlemoon?
[2017-04-27 20:13:19] CrazySteve : this is insane
[2017-04-27 20:13:21] bingbongfly : what to do with all these money
[2017-04-27 20:13:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTM17`: buy 186847 @ 1359.3 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:
[2017-04-27 20:13:35] biz : when gdax, gemini, stamp are the big exchanges you can buy on
[2017-04-27 20:13:38] biz : mooooon
[2017-04-27 20:13:49] biz : i longed xbtm17
[2017-04-27 20:13:53] biz : premium gonna sky rocket
[2017-04-27 20:14:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 5000 @ 1340.8
[2017-04-27 20:14:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTM17`: buy 2000 @ 1362.6
[2017-04-27 20:14:02] REKT : Sell your house, sell your wife, sell your kids, BUY BITCOIN!
[2017-04-27 20:14:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTM17`: buy 797 @ 1361.6
[2017-04-27 20:14:54] Poo : Who is shorting? Lol
[2017-04-27 20:15:01] alfaCharlie : BE careful guys u know how gravity works when u throw something right up
[2017-04-27 20:15:12] Actualiteit : alfaCharlie: but we're at pluto atm
[2017-04-27 20:15:13] Ahhere : Short found^
[2017-04-27 20:15:16] bingbongfly : Not when it gets gravity from the moon
[2017-04-27 20:15:18] bingbongfly : or pluto
[2017-04-27 20:15:19] bingbongfly : LOL
[2017-04-27 20:15:28] alfaCharlie : bingbongfly: lol true that
[2017-04-27 20:15:29] Clock : REKT: yep
[2017-04-27 20:15:43] Ahhere : everybody ready for an adl party?
[2017-04-27 20:15:47] Ugly_Old_Goat : alfaCharlie: doesn't work if its a rocket
[2017-04-27 20:16:23] alfaCharlie : https://ibb.co/eHJgMQ
[2017-04-27 20:16:41] alfaCharlie : BEyond the moon
[2017-04-27 20:16:56] Clock : alfaCharlie: if you throw it too fast it will keep on going and eventually leave solar system
[2017-04-27 20:17:00] Ahhere : ? ? ? ? ? ???
[2017-04-27 20:17:51] MikeHunt : rekt longs soon me thinks
[2017-04-27 20:17:57] MikeHunt : seems lots longed local t
[2017-04-27 20:18:02] MikeHunt : op
[2017-04-27 20:19:04] Ahhere : Where is @nutella & @Adriana its not really a party with no ladies
[2017-04-27 20:20:01] biz : can't wait till bitstamp adds margin
[2017-04-27 20:20:54] Ugly_Old_Goat : Pay day going up for shorts on perp
[2017-04-27 20:20:54] Poo : Btc anti grav
[2017-04-27 20:21:26] Ugly_Old_Goat : June should start gong to super premium 40-120 over
[2017-04-27 20:21:52] Ahhere : You know what they say, what goes up in a well built rocket...
[2017-04-27 20:22:08] alfaCharlie : yeah dies in space
[2017-04-27 20:22:22] Clock : Ahhere: it stays in the orbit?
[2017-04-27 20:22:23] Poo : Its not aive its invincible
[2017-04-27 20:22:42] Ugly_Old_Goat : Ahhere: Orbits
[2017-04-27 20:22:47] Clock : /price
[2017-04-27 20:22:51] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1336.28 (0.40%) Bitfinex : 1435.00 (0.42%) OKCоin : 1289.94 (-0.14%) itBit : 1338.72 (0.51%) Kraken : 1336.98 (0.52%) GDAX : 1347.80 (0.56%) SLQ : 14 mins```
[2017-04-27 20:22:53] Ugly_Old_Goat : At a new level
[2017-04-27 20:22:57] Clock : stamp is going up
[2017-04-27 20:23:11] Ugly_Old_Goat : Question: Is it 1500 or 15000?
[2017-04-27 20:23:50] biz : stamp needs margin. cant keep up with coinbase
[2017-04-27 20:23:56] biz : 1348 there
[2017-04-27 20:23:57] Clock : /price
[2017-04-27 20:24:00] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1333.51 (-0.21%) Bitfinex : 1435.70 (0.05%) OKCоin : 1289.94 (0.00%) itBit : 1338.71 (0.00%) Kraken : 1335.32 (-0.12%) GDAX : 1347.50 (-0.02%) SLQ : 1 min, ```
[2017-04-27 20:24:05] Clock : maybe not
[2017-04-27 20:24:15] Ugly_Old_Goat : I think some people lost a lot of bitcoins today and others. . . well, not a bad day
[2017-04-27 20:24:37] Ugly_Old_Goat : Has rapidtrades covered his shorts yet?
[2017-04-27 20:24:45] biz : someone dumped 750 btc on bitstamp earlier
[2017-04-27 20:24:57] biz : i'm sure they are wondering what to do with their $950,000
[2017-04-27 20:24:58] cryptokeeper : yeah that was 3.5 hrs ago
[2017-04-27 20:25:07] cryptokeeper : at least they can cash it out
[2017-04-27 20:25:07] cryptokeeper : lol
[2017-04-27 20:25:10] biz : they buy back in and push price to ATH
[2017-04-27 20:25:11] cryptokeeper : unlike people at finex
[2017-04-27 20:25:16] biz : true
[2017-04-27 20:25:22] biz : cash out and have the tax man get ya
[2017-04-27 20:25:27] biz : good bye $300,000
[2017-04-27 20:25:33] Clock : Ugly_Old_Goat: some will win some will lose some will sing the blues...
[2017-04-27 20:26:03] Ugly_Old_Goat : Has Lingham bot back in ? We will never know
[2017-04-27 20:26:03] alfaCharlie : bitstamp 5 $ away from ath
[2017-04-27 20:26:11] biz : it is $1350 on stamp
[2017-04-27 20:26:15] biz : $16 away now
[2017-04-27 20:26:20] Poo : Bistamp being anpussy
[2017-04-27 20:26:25] Ahhere : Eta on moon guise pls
[2017-04-27 20:26:44] Ahhere : i have money on this
[2017-04-27 20:26:49] rapidtrades : /price
[2017-04-27 20:26:51] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1333.52 (0.00%) Bitfinex : 1436.70 (0.07%) OKCоin : 1289.94 (0.00%) itBit : 1337.78 (-0.07%) Kraken : 1336.78 (0.11%) GDAX : 1347.80 (0.02%) SLQ : 2 mins```
[2017-04-27 20:30:39] Clock : Ahhere: 2018
[2017-04-27 20:30:59] Ahhere : Are you a broken @Clock ?
[2017-04-27 20:31:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHJ17`: buy 386 @ 0.04545
[2017-04-27 20:32:28] Clock : Ahhere: Bitcoin O'Clock
[2017-04-27 20:32:35] cg : moon = 100k? or 1 mill?
[2017-04-27 20:34:12] Ahhere : I like your style I'm happy with 10 -20k
[2017-04-27 20:34:20] Sultan Pepper : Almost 1200!
[2017-04-27 20:34:37] Sultan Pepper : 1194
[2017-04-27 20:34:39] cg : well, at this rate 10k is almost certain
[2017-04-27 20:35:08] cg : you just need to look at growth rates
[2017-04-27 20:35:50] Ahhere : Rapid would point to the growth rates in 2014 if he wasnt watching the price
[2017-04-27 20:38:06] Ahhere : Is it just me or were we trying to break 1250 like very recently?
[2017-04-27 20:38:34] Ahhere : $100 aint what it used to be damn
[2017-04-27 20:39:13] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 11 @ 1343.0
[2017-04-27 20:39:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTM17`: buy 26086 @ 1365.7
[2017-04-27 20:39:48] alfaCharlie : yeah within 3 days $100 rise
[2017-04-27 20:40:06] sleger : very sustainable
[2017-04-27 20:42:00] sleger : cheap ETH wont last forever
[2017-04-27 20:42:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTM17`: buy 100166 @ 1367.3 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:
[2017-04-27 20:42:17] cg : umm, 100$ is less than 10% guys
[2017-04-27 20:42:31] Ahhere : It might, how many eth will they make? @sleger
[2017-04-27 20:42:44] sleger : not many
[2017-04-27 20:43:23] Ahhere : pretty much vitaliks answer
[2017-04-27 20:43:45] bingbongfly : Ahhere: 103 millions give or take a million
[2017-04-27 20:43:52] Poo : Like i said 1400 before 1209
[2017-04-27 20:43:59] Ahhere : again with the give or take @bingbongfly
[2017-04-27 20:44:05] bingbongfly : ?
[2017-04-27 20:44:14] bingbongfly : the fuck you on about
[2017-04-27 20:44:29] Clock : /price
[2017-04-27 20:44:32] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1338.00 (0.00%) Bitfinex : 1437.00 (0.00%) OKCоin : 1293.47 (0.00%) itBit : 1340.20 (0.00%) Kraken : 1338.00 (0.00%) GDAX : 1350.00 (0.00%) SLQ : < 1 min```
[2017-04-27 20:45:07] itsfall : 0% wtf?
[2017-04-27 20:45:30] Poo : Trollbox got high,
[2017-04-27 20:45:33] Ahhere : Id prefer more precision it is code after all @bingbongfly if its not defined it will change
[2017-04-27 20:45:51] bingbongfly : Ahhere: It's defined.
[2017-04-27 20:46:20] bingbongfly : Ahhere: I'll give you real numbers
[2017-04-27 20:46:24] Ahhere : go on..
[2017-04-27 20:46:39] bingbongfly : Ahhere: Block 6000000, ETH supply 103862556
[2017-04-27 20:46:48] bingbongfly : Ahhere: 5189-09-26 20:57:59.367004'
[2017-04-27 20:46:53] bingbongfly : that is year 5189
[2017-04-27 20:47:09] bingbongfly : Ahhere: Block 5000000, ETH supply 98562556, time '2025-10-02 11:47:30.658317'
[2017-04-27 20:47:18] bingbongfly : So year 2025 we will have 98 mil supply
[2017-04-27 20:47:42] bingbongfly : is that defined enough for you ? xD
[2017-04-27 20:47:58] Ahhere : Thats fixed?
[2017-04-27 20:47:59] hmmmYea : bingbongfly: there's almost zero chance that ends up happening
[2017-04-27 20:48:18] Ahhere : and very well defind thank you @bingbongfly
[2017-04-27 20:48:22] Clock : there is a 140 btc sell wall at 1340 at stamp hope we can make it through
[2017-04-27 20:48:27] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 1 @ 1345.5 :punch: :whale:
[2017-04-27 20:48:30] Poo : Why stamp lagging?
[2017-04-27 20:48:30] bingbongfly : Ahhere: Don't sweat it! good luck mate
[2017-04-27 20:48:43] L9 : Is it possible to delete trading history
[2017-04-27 20:48:44] Clock : /rrekt
[2017-04-27 20:48:44] trollbot : ``` 3 all time high REKTs: ``` ``` 18 days, 4 hours, 54 mins ago: Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 833000 @ 1199.3 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire: ``` ``` 41 days, 17 hours, 11 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 689089 @ 1126.18 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire: ``` ``` 40 days, 5 hours, 17 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 656927 @ 985.40 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire: ```
[2017-04-27 20:48:47] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 1115 @ 1346.2
[2017-04-27 20:48:48] Poo : Ah ok thanks @Clock
[2017-04-27 20:49:08] Ahhere : but is that fixed can the bankcoin guise make vitalik sneak in a few extra millions
[2017-04-27 20:49:46] Ahhere : bingbongfly:
[2017-04-27 20:49:53] Alexandrg1974 : /sentiment
[2017-04-27 20:49:55] bingbongfly : probably, it's a very unsecure network
[2017-04-27 20:49:56] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 7.98 / 92.03 Daily : 43.16 / 56.84 Weekly : 47.60 / 52.40 Monthly : 46.05 / 53.95```
[2017-04-27 20:49:57] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 49425 @ 1347.1
[2017-04-27 20:49:57] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 36600 @ 1346.7
[2017-04-27 20:50:18] KyllingLolsson : Wow thst sentiment
[2017-04-27 20:50:30] Alexandrg1974 : /sentiment
[2017-04-27 20:50:30] irvingtrader : BTC to the moon
[2017-04-27 20:50:32] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 7.62 / 92.38 Daily : 43.07 / 56.93 Weekly : 47.59 / 52.41 Monthly : 46.05 / 53.95```
[2017-04-27 20:50:35] biz : is crytopwatch a laggy mess for everyone else too?
[2017-04-27 20:50:40] Ahhere : seems like it @irvingtrader
[2017-04-27 20:50:47] cg : gdax making a run for it
[2017-04-27 20:50:47] irvingtrader : /price
[2017-04-27 20:50:50] biz : maybe i just need to restart my computer. got like 50 tabs open
[2017-04-27 20:50:51] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1340.00 (0.15%) Bitfinex : 1439.80 (0.19%) OKCоin : 1295.19 (0.13%) itBit : 1345.65 (0.41%) Kraken : 1341.89 (0.29%) GDAX : 1357.39 (0.55%) SLQ : 6 mins```
[2017-04-27 20:50:56] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 50 @ 1349.3
[2017-04-27 20:51:00] Alexandrg1974 : Yes. Look at the premiun in price futures
[2017-04-27 20:51:02] L9 : Is it possible to erase trading history?
[2017-04-27 20:51:17] Clock : 140 btc wall is getting eaten
[2017-04-27 20:51:20] NeoXx : biz: lags as well
[2017-04-27 20:51:24] Clock : done it is gone
[2017-04-27 20:51:36] alfaCharlie : Any plans on loading you SHORT guns yet ?
[2017-04-27 20:51:59] Actualiteit : L9: why, u burned through your stash?
[2017-04-27 20:52:03] biz : ETH and BTC
[2017-04-27 20:52:04] biz : both mooning
[2017-04-27 20:52:47] L9 : Actualiteit: Didn't get you sorry. I am not a native eng. speaker
[2017-04-27 20:53:06] Actualiteit : L9: oh allright, gung hei fat choi
[2017-04-27 20:54:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHJ17`: buy 10 @ 0.04633
[2017-04-27 20:54:27] rapidtrades : /price
[2017-04-27 20:54:29] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1340.05 (0.00%) Bitfinex : 1440.00 (0.01%) OKCоin : 1299.20 (0.31%) itBit : 1345.55 (-0.01%) Kraken : 1340.71 (-0.09%) GDAX : 1356.49 (-0.07%) SLQ : 3 mins```
[2017-04-27 20:54:40] biz : coinbase almost ATH
[2017-04-27 20:54:41] biz : $3 away
[2017-04-27 20:54:48] biz : stamp still got $8 to pump
[2017-04-27 20:58:40] lcj : 0.3？？？？？？？？
[2017-04-27 20:59:10] Actualiteit : lcj: oui
[2017-04-27 20:59:11] rapidtrades : smth is not right here
[2017-04-27 20:59:27] aethlios : rapidtrades: your shorts.
[2017-04-27 20:59:27] rapidtrades : why are both eth and btc going up
[2017-04-27 20:59:44] sleger : money flowing in cryptos
[2017-04-27 20:59:46] hmmmYea : rapidtrades: blockchain is a revolutionary technology
[2017-04-27 20:59:55] sleger : everything is up on polo too
[2017-04-27 20:59:55] EastIndiaCompany : rapidtrades: dumb money pouring in
[2017-04-27 20:59:58] rapidtrades : aethlios: u know what, f ur whore mother
[2017-04-27 21:00:03] lcj : i can't believe it
[2017-04-27 21:00:09] Alexandrg1974 : /sentiment
[2017-04-27 21:00:11] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 7.56 / 92.45 Daily : 42.53 / 57.47 Weekly : 47.54 / 52.46 Monthly : 46.04 / 53.96```
[2017-04-27 21:00:35] Actualiteit : rapidtrades: hows your short doing bruh
[2017-04-27 21:00:59] Alexandrg1974 : its time to sell
[2017-04-27 21:01:03] Alexandrg1974 : :)
[2017-04-27 21:01:03] Ahhere : lcj: whats 0.3?
[2017-04-27 21:01:13] rapidtrades : anyone that mentions my short is now on my asshole list
[2017-04-27 21:01:20] Actualiteit : srry senpai
[2017-04-27 21:01:27] Actualiteit : pls forgive me
[2017-04-27 21:01:37] Actualiteit : hey at least you get your funding right?
[2017-04-27 21:01:53] sleger : who is short ?
[2017-04-27 21:01:54] cg : :D
[2017-04-27 21:02:03] Poo : Sentiment ridiculous
[2017-04-27 21:02:56] Ahhere : what happens when nobody sells? ?
[2017-04-27 21:03:11] lcj : i am short and i want to cry
[2017-04-27 21:03:39] EastIndiaCompany : I'm only short big blocks
[2017-04-27 21:03:52] EastIndiaCompany : XD
[2017-04-27 21:04:52] Actualiteit : we need 0.01%/99.9%
[2017-04-27 21:04:56] Actualiteit : fuck
[2017-04-27 21:04:58] Clock : /price
[2017-04-27 21:05:00] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1338.81 (-0.09%) Bitfinex : 1439.90 (-0.01%) OKCоin : 1296.98 (-0.17%) itBit : 1344.65 (-0.07%) Kraken : 1338.69 (-0.15%) GDAX : 1355.92 (-0.04%) SLQ : 10 mins```
[2017-04-27 21:05:13] wtaler : Can any mod explain to me why a mark price stop limit triggers although the mark price never went below the stop price? I'm confused.
[2017-04-27 21:06:24] Alexandrg1974 : we have some bubble there - BTC
[2017-04-27 21:06:25] BitMEX_Sam : wtaler: The mark price was reached, you may be looking at the last or index
[2017-04-27 21:06:34] BitMEX_Sam : The mark price is a combination of the index & the best bid/offer
[2017-04-27 21:06:51] BitMEX_Sam : See https://www.bitmex.com/app/fairPriceMarking#Calculation-of-Fair-Price-for-Futures-Contracts
[2017-04-27 21:07:20] Alexandrg1974 : OI is also to big
[2017-04-27 21:08:58] wtaler : BitMEX_Sam: ah, I checked the open/close/high/low values from the chart afterwards, so that's probably the mistake I made while trying to understand why the stop triggered
[2017-04-27 21:13:33] rapidtrades : china volume is up a lot and price is finally going up...maybe withdrawals are coming soon
[2017-04-27 21:14:02] wtaler : no idea why the mark price would jump down so hard though. The stop was .046, limit .04580, exec price .04617
[2017-04-27 21:17:36] Actualiteit : we're in volatile waters me hearty
[2017-04-27 21:17:43] wtaler : true story :)
[2017-04-27 21:18:37] Heyya : /sentiment
[2017-04-27 21:18:39] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 17.77 / 82.23 Daily : 42.65 / 57.35 Weekly : 47.51 / 52.49 Monthly : 46.04 / 53.96```
[2017-04-27 21:19:30] hmmmYea : BitMEX_Sam: whoever is running that spam bot in the perp swap is clearly violating he guidelines for trading in very small sizes
[2017-04-27 21:20:27] hmmmYea : been going for a bit now... very annoying
[2017-04-27 21:20:44] Clock : can we pause for a few hours?
[2017-04-27 21:20:54] justinlooking : lol
[2017-04-27 21:20:58] justinlooking : nope
[2017-04-27 21:21:00] sleger : hmmmYea: what guidelines is he violating ?
[2017-04-27 21:21:33] sleger : if the trade size is too small it should be increased (like i suggested over a year ago and pretty much everyone was against it)
[2017-04-27 21:22:15] sleger : or then there should be a tiny fee (one satoshi) for posting a limit order and canceling it with no execution
[2017-04-27 21:22:29] j8 : spam doesn't seem like much of a problem now with 0.1 tick. i always though $1 contracts was too small
[2017-04-27 21:22:40] stf28 : you can hide small orders and orders below 5 aren't displayed
[2017-04-27 21:23:48] rapidtrades : sleger: stop spamming sleger
[2017-04-27 21:23:58] rapidtrades : u know its not okay, u have been warned for it before
[2017-04-27 21:24:25] sleger : how are your shorts rapid ?
[2017-04-27 21:24:37] hmmmYea : sleger: im looking for it, there is a bit in the docs that says something like "we have the trade minimum set to 1 to make bitmex accessible to all users"... and then it has a minimum reccomended order size if you are not a little fishy
[2017-04-27 21:24:56] sleger : that doesnt seem like a fair rule
[2017-04-27 21:25:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 40 @ 0.01089
[2017-04-27 21:25:42] Ahhere : /price
[2017-04-27 21:25:45] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1340.24 (0.11%) Bitfinex : 1437.30 (-0.18%) OKCоin : 1297.50 (0.04%) itBit : 1345.90 (0.09%) Kraken : 1345.47 (0.51%) GDAX : 1359.27 (0.25%) SLQ : 20 mins```
[2017-04-27 21:25:48] rapidtrades : sleger: and its fair for us to see ur shit 1 contract spam on orderbook?
[2017-04-27 21:26:01] sleger : not mine
[2017-04-27 21:26:09] hmmmYea : rapidtrades: that is sleger's risk limit, so he fits within the rule
[2017-04-27 21:26:21] sleger : i invite all users to create 1 contract bots
[2017-04-27 21:26:26] sleger : so that bitmex changes the rule
[2017-04-27 21:26:38] sleger : i can send them a copy of this great bot too :D
[2017-04-27 21:26:39] sleger : jk
[2017-04-27 21:27:59] hmmmYea : sleger: https://blog.bitmex.com/notice-regarding-spam-orders/
[2017-04-27 21:28:20] rapidtrades : 1$ doesn't seem right considering 1 GNO is $100 right now and 1 ZEC cost as much as 10 BTC
[2017-04-27 21:29:08] L9 : How the orders can be spam?
[2017-04-27 21:29:26] rapidtrades : every other coin on here but BTC has a de-facto higher minimum
[2017-04-27 21:29:33] hmmmYea : L9: if i wanted to trade 100K in the swap
[2017-04-27 21:29:43] rapidtrades : except ripple i guess cos its so dirt cheap
[2017-04-27 21:29:45] hmmmYea : but had a bot break it up into 100,000 $1 orders
[2017-04-27 21:29:49] hmmmYea : that would be spam
[2017-04-27 21:29:53] sleger : that shouldnt be
[2017-04-27 21:30:03] sleger : not more than the user who biuys 1$ with one order
[2017-04-27 21:30:25] sleger : they pay the same fee per order
[2017-04-27 21:30:25] L9 : Why can't I break a big order ito small
[2017-04-27 21:30:26] j8 : also because when alts go up, contract size goes up in btc.. when btc goes up, contract size goes down in btc
[2017-04-27 21:30:35] rapidtrades : it is spam tho, its taxing on the trade server
[2017-04-27 21:30:51] rapidtrades : and on our eyes
[2017-04-27 21:30:52] hmmmYea : sleger: 1 is a way to clog the tape,,,,, the other is a way to let a new user demo the platform with microstakes
[2017-04-27 21:31:05] sleger : i dont agree
[2017-04-27 21:31:13] rapidtrades : sleger shut the hell up
[2017-04-27 21:31:24] sleger : how are your shorts rapid ?
[2017-04-27 21:31:27] hmmmYea : sleger: with which part?
[2017-04-27 21:31:39] sleger : that one is ok the other one isnt
[2017-04-27 21:31:54] hmmmYea : sleger: you dont like microstakes as a marketing tool?
[2017-04-27 21:32:01] sleger : or then like i said earlier, minimal fee per order even if not filled
[2017-04-27 21:32:08] rapidtrades : nope
[2017-04-27 21:32:25] hmmmYea : sleger: charging people to submit orders is terrible exchange policy
[2017-04-27 21:32:26] rapidtrades : im not going to pay a fee cos some asshole is spamming the book
[2017-04-27 21:32:53] sleger : if an order for 1 is ok for one user it should be ok for all of them. Proof that this rule is stupid is that it's not even clear, whats the limit, where's the maths for whats ok and whats not
[2017-04-27 21:33:00] startChat : Anyone having trouble amending stop order prices?
[2017-04-27 21:33:10] sleger : rapidtrades: you wouldnt pay a fee unless you're the asshole
[2017-04-27 21:33:17] rapidtrades : sleger: cmmon sense mybe?
[2017-04-27 21:33:19] hmmmYea : sleger: many exchange and regulatory rules are discretionary
[2017-04-27 21:33:31] hmmmYea : define market manipulation quantitatively
[2017-04-27 21:33:35] hmmmYea : i dare you
[2017-04-27 21:33:42] rapidtrades : HE JUST DARED U
[2017-04-27 21:33:44] sleger : there are ways
[2017-04-27 21:33:46] hmmmYea : DOUBLE DATE
[2017-04-27 21:33:48] hmmmYea : DARE*
[2017-04-27 21:33:51] sleger : because they have code to detect them
[2017-04-27 21:33:51] L9 : Is using more than one take profits considered as spam
[2017-04-27 21:33:53] sleger : code is rule
[2017-04-27 21:34:04] hmmmYea : sleger: nah
[2017-04-27 21:34:10] sleger : if i want to close 100k can I put 10k orders of 10 ?
[2017-04-27 21:34:11] rapidtrades : god damit ur an idiot sleger
[2017-04-27 21:34:15] sleger : 1k order of 100 ?
[2017-04-27 21:34:28] hmmmYea : they do have code that check for certain types of manipulation, but the code isnt the rule
[2017-04-27 21:34:36] sleger : rapidtrades: you're nice, but you dont understand the conversation, please step out
[2017-04-27 21:34:44] sleger : hmmmYea: i know but it could be
[2017-04-27 21:34:57] sleger : anyways thats beside the point
[2017-04-27 21:34:59] bingbongfly : Dot com bubble
[2017-04-27 21:35:00] bingbongfly : 2.0
[2017-04-27 21:35:05] sleger : why can one user do it and not another
[2017-04-27 21:35:18] bingbongfly : Fuck I wish I was older and had some real money
[2017-04-27 21:35:22] hmmmYea : bc the problem is caused by the number of entries on the tape
[2017-04-27 21:35:22] sleger : can i put 1k order of 100 ? they are 100x bigger than the min size thats quite a lot
[2017-04-27 21:35:27] hmmmYea : not the size of the entries
[2017-04-27 21:35:29] rapidtrades : fine, keep doing it and see what happens
[2017-04-27 21:35:41] rapidtrades : they routinely ban ppl for this, its a known bitmex policy
[2017-04-27 21:35:42] sleger : rapidtrades: listen Dummy : ITS NOT ME
[2017-04-27 21:35:51] rapidtrades : then drop it
[2017-04-27 21:35:59] rapidtrades : u know the rules
[2017-04-27 21:36:00] hmmmYea : i started it
[2017-04-27 21:36:06] sleger : rapidtrades: im discussing trading with @hmmmYea
[2017-04-27 21:36:06] hmmmYea : fwiw
[2017-04-27 21:36:13] rapidtrades : fine
[2017-04-27 21:36:21] sleger : rapidtrades: i dont know the rules actually, what is the rule precisely ?
[2017-04-27 21:36:27] sleger : is 1000 orders of 100 ok ?
[2017-04-27 21:36:30] sleger : ^ answer
[2017-04-27 21:36:31] j8 : if your orders are $10 or more you can have as many as you want, i believe is the policy
[2017-04-27 21:36:43] sleger : ok so 10k orders of 10$ is good
[2017-04-27 21:36:48] j8 : you just have to respect rate limits
[2017-04-27 21:36:58] hmmmYea : sleger: its all in the blog post
[2017-04-27 21:37:02] sleger : then they should make 1 contract 10$, who needs to play with less than 10$ really
[2017-04-27 21:37:26] sleger : "a gross value of less than 0.01 XBT"
[2017-04-27 21:37:29] hmmmYea : sleger: thats how the exchange gets new customers
[2017-04-27 21:37:29] j8 : even below $10 you don't get banned, just hidden
[2017-04-27 21:38:00] hmmmYea : like play money tables or microstakes on poker sites
[2017-04-27 21:38:16] sleger : yes but everyone can play on those
[2017-04-27 21:38:45] sleger : 1 satoshi fee to post an order
[2017-04-27 21:39:04] hmmmYea : sweet dreams campers
[2017-04-27 21:39:06] rapidtrades : NO
[2017-04-27 21:39:17] sleger : ^ 1 satoshi matters
[2017-04-27 21:39:20] sleger : when you're short
[2017-04-27 21:39:21] hmmmYea : rapidtrades: im leaving, sorry to disappoint
[2017-04-27 21:39:21] rapidtrades : no more fees, they're already high
[2017-04-27 21:39:32] sleger : dude do the math
[2017-04-27 21:39:33] j8 : even $1 flat fee would be great
[2017-04-27 21:39:49] sleger : 1$ for ?
[2017-04-27 21:39:57] j8 : to post an order
[2017-04-27 21:39:58] hmmmYea : i just bought bi2mex.com
[2017-04-27 21:40:03] hmmmYea : who's ready to strike?
[2017-04-27 21:40:03] sleger : that is huge
[2017-04-27 21:40:06] rapidtrades : dude u already raped us with ur 0.1 ticks, can u just stop talking?
[2017-04-27 21:40:21] rapidtrades : almost all ur suggestions end up hurting users
[2017-04-27 21:40:22] sleger : 0.1 tick is awesome
[2017-04-27 21:40:25] sleger : long overdue
[2017-04-27 21:40:26] j8 : if you trade in lots of $10k, it's one basis point
[2017-04-27 21:40:30] sleger : asked for it over a year ago again
[2017-04-27 21:40:38] justinlooking : j8?? u lost ur mind !
[2017-04-27 21:40:39] j8 : as in, that replaces the trading fee
[2017-04-27 21:40:47] sleger : j8: well but the mm changes their quotes a lot before someone trades, so would have to pay it many times
[2017-04-27 21:41:06] justinlooking : would modify be free?
[2017-04-27 21:41:29] j8 : yeah clearly i haven't thought this through
[2017-04-27 21:42:03] sleger : well technically fees should pay for usage (as if it were decentralized), usage is bandwith, cpu etc...
[2017-04-27 21:42:08] sleger : so fee per order does make sense
[2017-04-27 21:42:48] j8 : yes, if everyone traded the minimum size the exchange would break / go broke
[2017-04-27 21:43:07] sleger : an exchange running on EVM (ethereum vm) would charge gas, per operation, so mostly placing canceling
[2017-04-27 21:43:36] sleger : and then it makes sense to trade 1x 100k instead of 100k x 1
[2017-04-27 21:43:47] sleger : and optimize requotes
[2017-04-27 21:43:50] rapidtrades : then go there on EVM
[2017-04-27 21:44:07] rapidtrades : oh wait let me guess
[2017-04-27 21:44:11] sleger : its not ready yet, but when it is please dont join their chat
[2017-04-27 21:44:20] sleger : anyways you wouldnt pay the gas to chat
[2017-04-27 21:44:22] rapidtrades : it doesn't exist yet....just like 99% of crypto ideass
[2017-04-27 21:44:24] rapidtrades : exactly
[2017-04-27 21:44:30] rapidtrades : ex f*cking actly
[2017-04-27 21:46:19] justinlooking : u seem especially butthurt tonight rapid. liq getting close?
[2017-04-27 21:46:41] sleger : its not getting further away
[2017-04-27 21:46:53] rapidtrades : justinlooking: u just made the list f*cker
[2017-04-27 21:56:27] MikeHunt : i estimate it before 1600
[2017-04-27 22:05:36] finnagetdooped : i believe in you rapid
[2017-04-27 22:05:43] finnagetdooped : i want to buy btc again at 600 too
[2017-04-27 22:08:36] Sutan : btc etf is gonna be aproved this time
[2017-04-27 22:09:26] BTCTRADER : yep
[2017-04-27 22:09:38] MikeHunt : based on what evidence?
[2017-04-27 22:09:55] Ahhere : `etf approved`
[2017-04-27 22:14:07] MikeHunt : lol
[2017-04-27 22:15:09] Sutan : why a revision if is not gonna be aproved?
[2017-04-27 22:15:48] MikeHunt : whats to loose/
[2017-04-27 22:15:50] MikeHunt : ?
[2017-04-27 22:18:10] Farzad2 : /price
[2017-04-27 22:18:12] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1335.58 (-0.35%) Bitfinex : 1436.10 (-0.08%) OKCоin : 1289.08 (-0.65%) itBit : 1342.42 (-0.26%) Kraken : 1341.11 (-0.32%) GDAX : 1348.92 (-0.76%) SLQ : 52 mins```
[2017-04-27 22:18:37] emcor : Sutan: they getting a revision so they dont sue and stfu
[2017-04-27 22:19:06] Dynamix : LTC to short mby :D
[2017-04-27 22:19:57] yoyo123 : lol can @sam list another ETF binary
[2017-04-27 22:20:03] yoyo123 : i would love to sell that sht
[2017-04-27 22:20:22] yoyo123 : Sutan: you can buy from me all you want no way its happening
[2017-04-27 22:22:45] BitMEX_Greg : yoyo123: Unlikely
[2017-04-27 22:24:51] yoyo123 : :(
[2017-04-27 22:27:02] Gr33d : /jokre
[2017-04-27 22:27:04] Gr33d : /joke
[2017-04-27 22:27:05] trollbot : ``` How do farmers party? They turnip the beets.```
[2017-04-27 22:28:51] Ahhere : My gf liked that 1^
[2017-04-27 22:33:39] Farzad2 : /joke
[2017-04-27 22:33:40] trollbot : ``` I'm going to leave this world just like I entered it.. With me crying and the people around me celebrating.```
[2017-04-27 22:33:46] EastIndiaCompany : Take money
[2017-04-27 22:34:02] frog : do you think eth rise related to JPM support of eth?
[2017-04-27 22:35:06] jahonen : double top
[2017-04-27 22:35:07] EastIndiaCompany : frog: nah, it has more to with the fact that vitaly goes around the world to pump his scam
[2017-04-27 22:35:58] itsme : /help
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[2017-04-27 22:35:58] trollbot : `/joke`: Shows a short joke from top reddit /r/jokes. `/suggest [TEXT]`: Send a suggestion to author of this bot. `/?` or `/help`: Shows list of commands and description. If you like this bot consider donating to 154DktRHXpiEjwQgJhdWWxw2rnNrHUo9wd
[2017-04-27 22:36:09] itsme : /sentiment
[2017-04-27 22:36:12] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 36.03 / 63.97 Daily : 42.65 / 57.35 Weekly : 47.31 / 52.69 Monthly : 46.00 / 54.00```
[2017-04-27 22:36:44] frog : just happened around the time they pulled out of R3, maybe coincidence
[2017-04-27 22:38:08] EastIndiaCompany : Nobody uses Ethereum other than to scam, JPM does not support Eth
[2017-04-27 22:38:50] EastIndiaCompany : There's no reason for banks to use crypto, Bitcoin is thug life
[2017-04-27 22:40:32] yoyo123 : EastIndiaCompany: XRP
[2017-04-27 22:40:43] Ahhere : This guy believes in eth https://youtu.be/hb3AWedkdwo
[2017-04-27 22:41:20] biz : lot of people longing on swap. perfect time for a flash crash
[2017-04-27 22:41:20] EastIndiaCompany : Well he either is a scammer or more likely, he is geting scammed :P
[2017-04-27 22:41:53] EastIndiaCompany : yoyo123: Ripple is not a blockchain, why use ripple if you can use swift
[2017-04-27 22:42:21] yoyo123 : bc ripple is faster and cheaper
[2017-04-27 22:42:29] yoyo123 : do some research @EastIndiaCompany
[2017-04-27 22:43:24] yoyo123 : https://www.paymentssource.com/news/ripple-vs-swift-rivalry-heats-up-banking-may-be-ultimate-winner
[2017-04-27 22:44:16] yoyo123 : "Last month, Ripple poached Swift executive Marjan Delatinne, who had been leading customer engagement for Swift’s GPI. Last year, the company, based on San Francisco hired former Swift board member Marcus Treacher."
[2017-04-27 22:44:36] frog : yoyo123: ripple is interesting but coins may not become highly valuable as model is dependent on having cheap coin
[2017-04-27 22:45:19] EastIndiaCompany : There's no need for the XRP token first off, why not just use USD. The reason of course, is so that the Ripple company can scam the buyers of the XRP token
[2017-04-27 22:45:51] EastIndiaCompany : #doyourresearch #dontbecomeavictime
[2017-04-27 22:46:00] frog : yoyo123: banks etc like blockchain but want to capture the profits from transactions themsleves rather than give to miners
[2017-04-27 22:46:26] yoyo123 : frog: again wrong
[2017-04-27 22:46:27] yoyo123 : https://www.reddit.com/r/Ripple/comments/67lhmt/isnt_it_in_the_interest_of_ripple_to_keep_xrp/
[2017-04-27 22:46:36] EastIndiaCompany : People who really believe XRP have value are destined to lose all their money
[2017-04-27 22:46:43] yoyo123 : EastIndiaCompany: also wrong, the XRP asset makes transactions cheaper
[2017-04-27 22:46:54] EastIndiaCompany : how does XRP make it cheaper lol
[2017-04-27 22:47:00] EastIndiaCompany : you really don't understand it
[2017-04-27 22:47:06] yoyo123 : actually i do
[2017-04-27 22:47:08] EastIndiaCompany : USD is more stable
[2017-04-27 22:47:16] EastIndiaCompany : XRP is just there to sell to fools
[2017-04-27 22:47:21] Ahhere : Xrp is worse than trash
[2017-04-27 22:47:22] yoyo123 : for two counterparties doing FX transactions
[2017-04-27 22:47:42] yoyo123 : it can sometimes be cheaper to transfer the money through XRP than other currencies
[2017-04-27 22:47:59] EastIndiaCompany : yoyo123: except using ripple requires trust in the XRP foundation
[2017-04-27 22:48:14] yoyo123 : EastIndiaCompany: https://ripple.com/files/xrp_cost_model_paper.pdf
[2017-04-27 22:48:15] EastIndiaCompany : It can never be cheaper using the XRP token
[2017-04-27 22:48:29] frog : yoyo123: its like pepe coin but with USD rather than trading cards
[2017-04-27 22:48:31] EastIndiaCompany : volatiliy + liquidity problems
[2017-04-27 22:48:36] yoyo123 : EastIndiaCompany: do your research before making baseless claims
[2017-04-27 22:48:51] EastIndiaCompany : yoyo123: you just got scammed by Ripple labs SFYL
[2017-04-27 22:48:54] yoyo123 : EastIndiaCompany: yes thats true, it needs to have a high market cap and be stable + liquid for it to work
[2017-04-27 22:49:16] yoyo123 : EastIndiaCompany: yes you have to trust ripple labs i agree with that
[2017-04-27 22:49:24] yoyo123 : its not decentralized completely
[2017-04-27 22:49:29] yoyo123 : that doesnt mean its not going to work
[2017-04-27 22:49:35] frog : xrp is to impose cost to prevent network spam
[2017-04-27 22:49:50] yoyo123 : it has a better chance to work than every other crypto besides BTC and ETH
[2017-04-27 22:49:51] EastIndiaCompany : yoyo123: Ok, then why not use Swift and the USD which are much more trusted, more liquid, less volatile, universally accepted :P
[2017-04-27 22:49:55] EastIndiaCompany : yoyo123: You got scammed pal
[2017-04-27 22:50:15] EastIndiaCompany : Blockchain does not provide an efficiency in banking
[2017-04-27 22:50:21] EastIndiaCompany : That's what you fools need to learn
[2017-04-27 22:50:24] yoyo123 : EastIndiaCompany: read the link i sent you youre wrong it does
[2017-04-27 22:50:33] frog : EastIndiaCompany: SWIFT expensive, blockchain solutions enables banks to reduce costs
[2017-04-27 22:50:51] EastIndiaCompany : frog: blockchain is much much more expensive than SWIFT
[2017-04-27 22:50:57] yoyo123 : EastIndiaCompany: ur clearly completely uinformed on the ledger
[2017-04-27 22:50:58] EastIndiaCompany : Proof of work costs moeny
[2017-04-27 22:51:02] Actualiteit : SWIFTchain
[2017-04-27 22:51:43] yoyo123 : its clearly going to take a lot for it to work, but they signed up 150 banks so clearly they disagree with you @EastIndiaCompany
[2017-04-27 22:52:21] biz : XRP pumping
[2017-04-27 22:52:27] EastIndiaCompany : yoyo123: Those banks just don't understand blockchain yet, they are just putting small teams on it, but they will soon discover blockchain provides no benefits for banking
[2017-04-27 22:52:43] EastIndiaCompany : yoyo123: blockchain is for drugs, sex and crime ;)
[2017-04-27 22:52:57] EastIndiaCompany : Bitcoin #thug life
[2017-04-27 22:53:02] Ahhere : Just use a spreadsheet its just as secure and cheaper, banks
[2017-04-27 22:53:22] yoyo123 : EastIndiaCompany: just read their paper at least
[2017-04-27 22:53:29] yoyo123 : https://ripple.com/files/xrp_cost_model_paper.pdf
[2017-04-27 22:53:40] yoyo123 : EastIndiaCompany: its factually cheaper
[2017-04-27 22:53:43] EastIndiaCompany : yoyo123: In that regard ETH and XRP are working as intended, allowing scammers to take fool's money without going to jail
[2017-04-27 22:54:06] yoyo123 : EastIndiaCompany: well there is some truth to that
[2017-04-27 22:56:53] EastIndiaCompany : yoyo123: I don't mind that XRP and ETH exist though, they provide a distraction for governments while bitcoin gains popularity. Soon it will be too late to bring it down (and they should try to bring it down, as it enables new ways to do criminal activity, financing terrrorism, kidnapping, insider trading, etc)
[2017-04-27 23:01:29] startChat : EastIndiaCompany: You nailed it on the head
[2017-04-27 23:01:32] yoyo123 : EastIndiaCompany: XRP isnt in competition with bitcoin, bitcoin has way higher price potential
[2017-04-27 23:01:43] yoyo123 : ripple will never be a store of value
[2017-04-27 23:01:52] yoyo123 : and its not decentralized
[2017-04-27 23:01:55] frog : yoyo123: +1
[2017-04-27 23:02:10] yoyo123 : but that doesnt mean it wont work and doesnt have high upside as well
[2017-04-27 23:03:05] frog : yoyo123: hard to value
[2017-04-27 23:03:32] Ahhere : But why would ripple go up if its not a store of value
[2017-04-27 23:03:38] EastIndiaCompany : yoyo123: Ripple the system could work (doubt it would be better than Swift though), however, there's just no need for the XRP token
[2017-04-27 23:03:55] frog : prevent network spam
[2017-04-27 23:04:05] EastIndiaCompany : frog: You could do that with USD as well
[2017-04-27 23:04:10] EastIndiaCompany : and USD does that better
[2017-04-27 23:04:17] frog : yes
[2017-04-27 23:05:09] yoyo123 : EastIndiaCompany: USD isnt instant, trustless etc
[2017-04-27 23:05:42] EastIndiaCompany : USD is very much instant if you're trading electronically, USD has much more trust than XRP
[2017-04-27 23:05:48] yoyo123 : EastIndiaCompany: dude its better than Swift just read the artical
[2017-04-27 23:05:50] frog : ripple isnt trustless
[2017-04-27 23:05:58] yoyo123 : EastIndiaCompany: @frog not completely
[2017-04-27 23:06:03] yoyo123 : but kind of
[2017-04-27 23:06:11] frog : but is still better than swift
[2017-04-27 23:06:25] yoyo123 : frog: its probably less centralized than BTC lol
[2017-04-27 23:06:27] EastIndiaCompany : yoyo123: Even if it were better (which it is not), you still are left with the fact that there's no need for XRP
[2017-04-27 23:06:43] frog : @yoyo123 lol
[2017-04-27 23:06:45] yoyo123 : the consensus for ripple is less centralized that is
[2017-04-27 23:06:52] yoyo123 : 150 banks
[2017-04-27 23:06:57] yoyo123 : vs two china minues
[2017-04-27 23:07:00] yoyo123 : miners
[2017-04-27 23:07:08] frog : i think banks would like to create on system
[2017-04-27 23:07:10] EastIndiaCompany : yoyo123: Ah so you don't understand how bitcoin works
[2017-04-27 23:07:19] EastIndiaCompany : The miners really don't have that much power
[2017-04-27 23:07:21] frog : own
[2017-04-27 23:07:50] yoyo123 : EastIndiaCompany: they form consensus around the chain do they not
[2017-04-27 23:07:52] EastIndiaCompany : All miners do in a POW system is timestamping transactions
[2017-04-27 23:08:02] frog : miners get paid for providing secuirty