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[2023-07-12 06:07:25] Werner : BitMEX_pez: :alpaca:
[2023-07-12 06:07:35] Finnic99 : Werner: T_T damnit canada... I thought it was only ontario
[2023-07-12 06:07:36] Rektom_Sauce : still free to move the fuck outta here eh
[2023-07-12 06:07:52] Werner : Rektom_Sauce: hehe, just buy a fake kyc from an immigrant therre, plenty inddians and pakis would sell you their kyc for a couple hundees
[2023-07-12 06:08:01] Werner : **factss**
[2023-07-12 06:08:03] Rektom_Sauce : Finnic99: it was for the longest time but post ftx regulations just blanket banned leverage
[2023-07-12 06:08:16] Rektom_Sauce : full retard mode like no consideration
[2023-07-12 06:08:21] Finnic99 : Rektom_Sauce: the fascists
[2023-07-12 06:08:32] Werner : the fascism is real
[2023-07-12 06:08:37] Rektom_Sauce : it actually sucks here under our current gov, can't even be neutral anymore
[2023-07-12 06:09:00] Rektom_Sauce : I wasn't one to blame trudeau for my problems but now shits affecting my job
[2023-07-12 06:09:00] BigBadShort : Wagner!
[2023-07-12 06:09:10] Werner : ggone are the days when you could just praise satosshi and sir arrthur for creatingg the glorious gambling machine, now we have biden's and treadue's wanting their share and being a thorn
[2023-07-12 06:09:17] Finnic99 : in the UK they are just like "they are unregulated don't touch them" but it's your fault if you get rekt we told u not to
[2023-07-12 06:09:25] The_Reaper : 150$ to :arthur: soon
[2023-07-12 06:09:38] Rektom_Sauce : that's how it should be and I always expected canada to follow suit
[2023-07-12 06:09:52] The_Reaper : Market is preparing to get rekt by yet another increasing inflation data release
[2023-07-12 06:09:52] Rektom_Sauce : even australia allowed lev trading of crypto through legacy brokers
[2023-07-12 06:10:07] Rektom_Sauce : a straight up blanket ban is insane
[2023-07-12 06:10:16] Rektom_Sauce : but that's why we have tax havens
[2023-07-12 06:10:37] Werner : Rektom_Sauce: You can easily buy a nationality of countries like malta etc and south american countries with your money
[2023-07-12 06:10:48] Werner : and solve this conundrum
[2023-07-12 06:11:06] Rektom_Sauce : Werner: yup already in motion sir, don't need to spend that much loot either
[2023-07-12 06:11:14] Werner : just need to invest like a couple hundred dollah
[2023-07-12 06:11:28] Werner : Rektom_Sauce: ehehheh :arthur:
[2023-07-12 06:11:37] Rektom_Sauce : I found one lawyer who accepts btc
[2023-07-12 06:11:43] Rektom_Sauce : 0.01btc to get the ball rolling
[2023-07-12 06:11:47] Rektom_Sauce : south america is dope
[2023-07-12 06:12:21] Werner : damn sounds cool, el salvador has too many gangs undergoing cleansing or else would have been cool
[2023-07-12 06:12:35] Rektom_Sauce : ye fk that
[2023-07-12 06:12:54] Rektom_Sauce : the pictures from that massive gangster arrest were nuts tho
[2023-07-12 06:13:34] The_Reaper : Today marks 22full days of rejecting higher highs
[2023-07-12 06:13:48] Werner : only dumb peeps like @bluemaster buy such cars https://twitter.com/XRPWhaleXBT/status/1679009252281819136
[2023-07-12 06:14:01] The_Reaper : Its time to go lower, or even retest the breakout
[2023-07-12 06:14:03] Werner : its either a toyota or its a crap
[2023-07-12 06:14:07] Werner : there's no in bettween
[2023-07-12 06:14:15] Werner : just like you're either a worm or a parasite
[2023-07-12 06:14:21] Werner : there's no in between
[2023-07-12 06:14:26] The_Reaper : Inflation data will help correcting long bongo dumbos
[2023-07-12 06:14:27] Werner : no shrimp no green aliens
[2023-07-12 06:14:29] Werner : nothing
[2023-07-12 06:14:31] Werner : just worms
[2023-07-12 06:14:33] Werner : worms only
[2023-07-12 06:14:35] Werner : only worms
[2023-07-12 06:14:38] Werner : worms forever
[2023-07-12 06:14:40] Werner : foreverr worms
[2023-07-12 06:15:39] BitMEX_Hans : BigBadShort: stop posting wagner or you'll get a perma ban
[2023-07-12 06:15:57] Werner : BitMEX_Hans: whats wrong with writing wagner in the chat ?
[2023-07-12 06:16:06] Werner : Wagner is a common name
[2023-07-12 06:16:28] BitMEX_Hans : Why would you randomly type a common name in the trollbox?
[2023-07-12 06:16:42] Werner : BitMEX_Hans: it ryhmes with werner
[2023-07-12 06:16:46] Werner : like wernerWernered
[2023-07-12 06:16:48] Werner : wagner
[2023-07-12 06:16:49] BitMEX_Hans : it doesn;t
[2023-07-12 06:16:50] Werner : wagnered
[2023-07-12 06:16:52] Werner : weirdnerd
[2023-07-12 06:16:55] Werner : werenered
[2023-07-12 06:16:59] Werner : weinerd
[2023-07-12 06:16:59] Rektom_Sauce : :hammer:
[2023-07-12 06:17:07] BitMEX_Hans : just stop it, thanks
[2023-07-12 06:17:09] The_Reaper : Lol lame excuse
[2023-07-12 06:17:17] The_Reaper : “Common name”
[2023-07-12 06:17:32] Werner : its showing
[2023-07-12 06:17:40] Werner : the c...ie
[2023-07-12 06:17:41] The_Reaper : Dick is also a common name in the US
[2023-07-12 06:17:52] The_Reaper : 🤣
[2023-07-12 06:18:12] Werner : The_Reaper: cocksucker
[2023-07-12 06:19:30] Finnic99 : /position xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: 15,000 USD @ 30731.8797 ```
[2023-07-12 06:19:32] Finnic99 : /orders ``` :bitmex: XBTU23: Buy 1,000 USD @ 31038.5 ```
[2023-07-12 06:19:37] Werner : rengaW
[2023-07-12 06:19:50] Finnic99 : /position xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: 15,000 USD @ 30731.8797 ```
[2023-07-12 06:19:54] Finnic99 : /position xbtu23 ``` :bitmex: XBTU23: 1,000 USD @ 31038.5 ```
[2023-07-12 06:20:06] Werner : Finnic99: 🧪🧪🧪
[2023-07-12 06:21:18] Finnic99 : Werner: what is that emoji sir?
[2023-07-12 06:21:29] Werner : Finnic99: 🚀🚀🚀
[2023-07-12 06:21:40] Werner : Finnic99: Alternative rockets sir
[2023-07-12 06:22:03] Finnic99 : Werner: https://youtu.be/KoSp5IWrpJw?t=1345 listen to the music sir. Life is beautiful
[2023-07-12 06:22:55] Finnic99 : 🚀🚀🚀
[2023-07-12 06:23:13] Werner : Finnic99: Who did you rob, how did you get money to long 15k contracts and sit on it for days without fear of liq ?
[2023-07-12 06:23:20] Werner : which store specifically ?
[2023-07-12 06:23:31] Werner : was it group looting after a vilent mob protest ?
[2023-07-12 06:23:36] Finnic99 : Werner: my liquidation is far sir
[2023-07-12 06:23:56] Werner : :doge:
[2023-07-12 06:24:55] Finnic99 : Werner: sir I made $250 from video game services and farming... then I placed a bet on djokovic to beat alcaraz in the french open final at 2.8... then I used that $700 to long 26800 with $10000 contracts and sold at 29000... now I used this $1500 to long $16000 contracts
[2023-07-12 06:25:36] Werner : Finnic99: Dman nice sir, that makes sense
[2023-07-12 06:25:42] Werner : :alpaca:
[2023-07-12 06:25:47] Finnic99 : Werner: I AM NO CRIMINAL
[2023-07-12 06:25:59] Werner : Finnic99: hehe :arthur:
[2023-07-12 06:26:13] Finnic99 : Werner: u listen music?
[2023-07-12 06:26:32] Werner : Finnic99: name a person who doesn't sir
[2023-07-12 06:26:33] Werner : lol
[2023-07-12 06:26:39] Finnic99 : Werner: to the link
[2023-07-12 06:26:45] Werner : Finnic99: yeah
[2023-07-12 06:26:58] Werner : Finnic99: was just thinking why a wave didnt come and tip his setup over
[2023-07-12 06:27:09] Werner : or why he doesnt have any wires in and get electrocuted
[2023-07-12 06:27:15] Werner : BTC
[2023-07-12 06:27:19] Werner : KING COIN LTC AND BTC
[2023-07-12 06:27:22] Werner : MOON IT SIRS
[2023-07-12 06:27:31] Finnic99 : Werner: sir.... now we are going to 46k within the coming weeks. and I will have turned a measily 250 into $10000
[2023-07-12 06:27:34] Finnic99 : like a true hustler genius
[2023-07-12 06:27:41] Finnic99 : like the legendary Lord finnic I am
[2023-07-12 06:28:02] Werner : /position ltcusd ``` :bitmex: LTCUSD: 1,125 Cont @ 96.97 ```
[2023-07-12 06:28:18] Finnic99 : I have an IQ of at least 200
[2023-07-12 06:28:35] petyx : another day another fakeout
[2023-07-12 06:28:38] Werner : Finnic99: FACTS SIR FACTS MAHALO !
[2023-07-12 06:28:41] hehe MOON : Silly bearas
[2023-07-12 06:28:46] petyx : Werner: nice pos bro wish u good luck
[2023-07-12 06:28:52] hehe MOON : Bear run to 35k
[2023-07-12 06:28:55] Werner : petyx: Mahalo sir !
[2023-07-12 06:29:00] Finnic99 : Werner: gooooooooood position! mahalo!
[2023-07-12 06:29:07] Werner : Into the halvening super moon sir !
[2023-07-12 06:29:20] Werner : Finnic99: rektening incoming
[2023-07-12 06:29:39] Finnic99 : Werner: LTC already mooning early before the corn I noticed
[2023-07-12 06:30:00] Finnic99 : LTC definitely one of the best coins with the low fees and fast transactions!
[2023-07-12 06:30:19] Werner : Finnic99: Mahalo sir, fingers crossed !
[2023-07-12 06:30:20] Finnic99 : I get paid in Litecoin sir
[2023-07-12 06:30:27] Finnic99 : from my video game services
[2023-07-12 06:30:51] Werner : Finnic99: indeed sir indeed, not like xrp and stuff with unlimited supply but a fixed supply like btc sir
[2023-07-12 06:30:57] Werner : also halvening in 20 days ssir
[2023-07-12 06:31:10] Rektom_Sauce : chikun arise
[2023-07-12 06:31:12] hehe MOON : On knees , head up and mouth open bearas
[2023-07-12 06:31:18] hehe MOON : Bear bukkake time
[2023-07-12 06:31:45] Werner : BEAR BUKKAKE INCOMING
[2023-07-12 06:32:15] Finnic99 : 🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️🚁🚁🚁🚁
[2023-07-12 06:32:24] Finnic99 : kill the bear slash her throat bash her inn
[2023-07-12 06:32:38] VictorAndresAmu : Good Mooning everyone. is a new day charged with the divinity and grace of Almighty 🙌 and :btc:
[2023-07-12 06:32:39] hehe MOON : 💪🐮💦🐻
[2023-07-12 06:38:48] Gaunter-O-Dimm : can do it! bch !
[2023-07-12 06:38:53] Gaunter-O-Dimm : :bch:
[2023-07-12 06:38:55] Rektom_Sauce : https://cryptopotato.com/senators-lummis-and-gillibrand-to-unveil-updated-bill-classifying-crypto-assets-as-commodities/
[2023-07-12 06:39:04] Rektom_Sauce : commodities as in not securities
[2023-07-12 06:39:50] Rektom_Sauce : 36k next major resistance
[2023-07-12 06:41:41] Gaunter-O-Dimm : :D
[2023-07-12 06:42:13] Luke Short : Where is SteveS.??? He, the one who completely destroyed my faith in my long in the blink of an eye! Come forward and show yourself Sir!
[2023-07-12 06:42:40] Rektom_Sauce : Luke Short: the only thing certain in life is that stevenoob will be wrong
[2023-07-12 06:42:56] Werner : Luke Short: never listen to steven, he'ss never traded a penny in his life
[2023-07-12 06:43:07] Werner : just gives other people stupid advice ssir
[2023-07-12 06:43:12] Rektom_Sauce : I do hate how he does that to novice traders
[2023-07-12 06:43:15] Rektom_Sauce : like if you'
[2023-07-12 06:43:21] Finnic99 : BURJ KHALIFA CANDLES INCOMING
[2023-07-12 06:43:26] Rektom_Sauce : re gonna be a shit trader at least keep your mouth shut
[2023-07-12 06:43:40] Werner : Luke Short: https://twitter.com/BitMEXWerner/status/1677208884526878721/photo/1
[2023-07-12 06:43:43] Luke Short : Never happened before that the omen of his appearance wronged me
[2023-07-12 06:44:09] dokma : Do you guys have the clock anywhere on the BitMEX UI?
[2023-07-12 06:44:23] Werner : dokma: on the top right
[2023-07-12 06:44:36] Luke Short : Werner: that topic (6k) is still on the table sir.
[2023-07-12 06:44:47] Werner : Luke Short: lol
[2023-07-12 06:44:50] dokma : Werner: how did you enable it?
[2023-07-12 06:45:09] Rektom_Sauce : it should be part of the banner
[2023-07-12 06:45:18] Werner : dokma: enabled by default, check above your namee icon
[2023-07-12 06:45:26] Finnic99 : Werner: https://youtu.be/U0V7ATX_2CY?t=413 you listen
[2023-07-12 06:45:46] Werner : mahalo !
[2023-07-12 06:45:48] dokma : Werner: it's not there
[2023-07-12 06:46:19] dokma : Werner: https://imgur.com/wOxhdRo.png
[2023-07-12 06:46:22] Rektom_Sauce : dokma: alert the cyberpolice
[2023-07-12 06:46:27] Finnic99 : ooooo yessssaaaa
[2023-07-12 06:46:44] Werner : dokma: damn something wrong @admin can help than maybe
[2023-07-12 06:47:05] dokma : @admin how do I enable clock display?
[2023-07-12 06:47:15] dokma : it used to be below the chart
[2023-07-12 06:47:16] Werner : dokma: https://ibb.co/Js5KPgh
[2023-07-12 06:47:18] Luke Short : Trafingview stole the clock and auto-reset-button from us! Lawsuits are already being filed.
[2023-07-12 06:47:35] Rektom_Sauce : wanna see a pic of my clock?
[2023-07-12 06:47:44] Werner : hehe'
[2023-07-12 06:47:46] dokma : OHHHH, it's on the ticker bar now
[2023-07-12 06:47:54] dokma : I regularly delete the tickerbar
[2023-07-12 06:48:26] Werner : dokma: ye
[2023-07-12 06:49:53] Finnic99 : /position xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: 15,000 USD @ 30731.8797 ```
[2023-07-12 06:49:56] Finnic99 : /position xbtu23 ``` :bitmex: XBTU23: 1,000 USD @ 31038.5 ```
[2023-07-12 06:50:31] Hermite : Finnic99: do you think we hit 31k today?
[2023-07-12 06:50:52] petyx : the final dead cat bounce
[2023-07-12 06:50:56] Finnic99 : Hermite: I think there is a good chance considering how we're hanging out above 30600 and 30700
[2023-07-12 06:52:27] Fuun : u sound stressed, kids.
[2023-07-12 06:52:32] Fuun : :joy:
[2023-07-12 06:52:42] Hermite : Finnic99: well there are many open orders around 30300 and below, and now we just closed the previous candle, and above there are still caught longs, I think it is going to go below 30k now.
[2023-07-12 06:52:42] Werner : Hermite: yes 31k is definately coming today sir
[2023-07-12 06:53:04] Fuun : use another bitmex logo for a few days.
[2023-07-12 06:53:10] Fuun : and go for a few more.
[2023-07-12 06:53:24] Fuun : or is the team dead too, like the chat?
[2023-07-12 06:53:35] Hermite : Werner: without some strong fundamentals, I doubt we are going above 31k
[2023-07-12 06:53:36] Fuun : u have time, dont worry.
[2023-07-12 06:53:43] Werner : Hermite: lol
[2023-07-12 06:53:51] Werner : what fundamentals are you looking for sir ?
[2023-07-12 06:53:58] Werner : when it trends it trends
[2023-07-12 06:54:06] BigBadShort : :ltc:
[2023-07-12 06:54:08] Werner : we're now in up only phase going to 40k and so on
[2023-07-12 06:54:11] bluemaster : /position xbtn23 ``` :bitmex: XBTN23: 11,000 USD @ 30192.5986 ```
[2023-07-12 06:54:16] bluemaster : /position xbteur ``` :bitmex: XBTEUR: 50,000 EUR @ 27554.8134 ```
[2023-07-12 06:54:16] Werner : so 31 k is coming and not an issue
[2023-07-12 06:54:21] bluemaster : /position xbtz23 ``` :bitmex: XBTZ23: 183,400 USD @ 29911.7305 ```
[2023-07-12 06:54:24] BigBadShort : Wagner!
[2023-07-12 06:54:25] bluemaster : /position xbtu23 ``` :bitmex: XBTU23: 195,200 USD @ 29505.9233 ```
[2023-07-12 06:54:35] Werner : BigBadShort: wernerd ssir
[2023-07-12 06:54:56] BigBadShort : Werner: I added a bit of LTC, will see how it goes
[2023-07-12 06:55:09] Werner : BigBadShort: Ltc is not stopping now sir
[2023-07-12 06:55:12] Werner : UP ONLY
[2023-07-12 06:55:13] Werner : ONLY UP
[2023-07-12 06:55:20] Werner : INTO THE MOTHAFOOKIN HALFENING SIR
[2023-07-12 06:55:25] Werner : FULL THRUST
[2023-07-12 06:55:27] Werner : GIGA SEND
[2023-07-12 06:55:31] Werner : MEGA MAXX SENDD SIR
[2023-07-12 06:55:36] BigBadShort : Werner: Unstoppable like a Porsche with no breaks
[2023-07-12 06:55:46] Werner : BigBadShort: FACTS SIR FACTS MAHALO !
[2023-07-12 06:56:59] Hermite : BigBadShort: wait, you were unbanned?
[2023-07-12 06:57:55] Werner : Hermite: Mahalo !
[2023-07-12 06:57:58] BigBadShort : Hermite: too much attention to my humble person
[2023-07-12 06:59:00] BigBadShort : Wagner!
[2023-07-12 06:59:08] BigBadShort : Never argue with Wagner and with Wener!
[2023-07-12 06:59:12] Hermite : BigBadShort: that's true, I hope the admin realized that he banned you for no reason. I am just sensitive to injustice. We live in democracy after all.
[2023-07-12 06:59:16] Finnic99 : Hermite: I think we only closed 1 day below 30k in the last 3 and a half weeks and that was only quick
[2023-07-12 06:59:24] Finnic99 : it might not go below now
[2023-07-12 06:59:32] Werner : BigBadShort: i hope you saw wwhat hans said? did you ?
[2023-07-12 07:00:02] Finnic99 : tight bull flag on the 1w @Hermite
[2023-07-12 07:00:08] Hermite : Finnic99: Good point, however what is happening now, liquidity accumulation, eventually it will have to be collected by the market god.
[2023-07-12 07:00:30] Finnic99 : Hermite: there isn't much selling though to collect
[2023-07-12 07:00:42] Werner : BigBadShort: Just saying if you weren't here he said he'll perma ban you if you say wagner again, i asked him why its a common name but he was trying to stamp his fascist/distatorial authority by saying just dont say it without any reason. I'm not sure why, maybe he has relatives who live in Ukraine and he thinks its an attack on him.
[2023-07-12 07:00:45] Finnic99 : I mean its possible but I doubt it @Hermite
[2023-07-12 07:00:49] Werner : Maybe he's taking it personally.
[2023-07-12 07:00:57] Hermite : Finnic99: that's exactly it, mostly buying, many longs.
[2023-07-12 07:00:57] Werner : Since i see no one else has any issue with it.
[2023-07-12 07:01:25] Finnic99 : Hermite: any time they start to sell more longs are ready to quickly open
[2023-07-12 07:01:35] Hermite : Werner: oh I did not see that, that is absolutely wrong.
[2023-07-12 07:01:46] Finnic99 : Hermite: it's not a case where a bunch of longs sell and there are no buyers until it drops 1k
[2023-07-12 07:01:55] Werner : Hermite: yeah you guys can see it in the archives wwas 10 min ago
[2023-07-12 07:02:02] Finnic99 : constant bidding sir
[2023-07-12 07:02:08] Hermite : Werner: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PBhlPeTJ_g
[2023-07-12 07:03:02] Werner : Hermite: @BigBadShort [2023-07-12 06:15:39]BitMEX_Hans : BigBadShort: stop posting wagner or you'll get a perma ban [2023-07-12 06:15:57]Werner : BitMEX_Hans: whats wrong with writing wagner in the chat ? [2023-07-12 06:16:06]Werner : Wagner is a common name [2023-07-12 06:16:28]BitMEX_Hans : Why would you randomly type a common name in the trollbox? [2023-07-12 06:16:42]Werner : BitMEX_Hans: it ryhmes with werner [2023-07-12 06:16:46]Werner : like wernerWernered [2023-07-12 06:16:48]Werner : wagner [2023-07-12 06:16:49]BitMEX_Hans : it doesn;t [2023-07-12 06:16:50]Werner : wagnereds
[2023-07-12 07:03:15] Werner : [2023-07-12 06:16:52]Werner : weirdnerd [2023-07-12 06:16:55]Werner : werenered [2023-07-12 06:16:59]Werner : weinerd [2023-07-12 06:16:59]Rektom_Sauce : :hammer: [2023-07-12 06:17:07]BitMEX_Hans : just stop it, thanks [2023-07-12 06:17:09]The_Reaper : Lol lame excuse [2023-07-12 06:17:17]The_Reaper : “Common name” [2023-07-12 06:17:32]Werner : its showing [2023-07-12 06:17:40]Werner : the c...ie
[2023-07-12 07:03:51] Finnic99 : ULTRA MEGA MOON SEND
[2023-07-12 07:03:55] Finnic99 : BUY BUY BUY
[2023-07-12 07:04:21] Finnic99 : 🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀
[2023-07-12 07:04:43] BigBadShort : Werner: Didn't see it, but OK. Won't use it again. Thank you!
[2023-07-12 07:04:46] Werner : Pesonally beyond me, why an admin would take sides and ban one side from just writing a name of their leader
[2023-07-12 07:04:48] BigBadShort : God bless motherland!
[2023-07-12 07:04:49] Hermite : Werner: He cannot say - "Just stop it". I hope he understand what free of speech is. There were not hate speech... so you can't pull this card whenever you want.
[2023-07-12 07:04:54] Luke Short : Putin some more funds guys! Go full retard
[2023-07-12 07:04:59] Werner : imho its something we should complain about to his manager
[2023-07-12 07:05:09] Werner : @BitMEX_Patrick
[2023-07-12 07:05:20] Werner : Hermite: agree
[2023-07-12 07:05:37] BigBadShort : I planned to change my name to BigBadWagner but looks like it will be a bit difficult now :)
[2023-07-12 07:05:47] Werner : BigBadShort: lol :arthur:
[2023-07-12 07:05:57] Finnic99 : ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
[2023-07-12 07:08:49] BigBadShort : Werner!
[2023-07-12 07:09:03] Hermite : Werner: He can and should execute his admin power when it is necessary following the rules. I did not see any hate speech there, I could be wrong.
[2023-07-12 07:09:14] Hermite : Slava Ukraine❕
[2023-07-12 07:09:31] Werner : Hermite: indeed sir mahalo. !
[2023-07-12 07:09:45] Hermite : Hopefully I won't get banned for saying this. @Werner
[2023-07-12 07:09:50] Werner : God bless motherland !
[2023-07-12 07:10:00] BigBadShort : God bless motherland!
[2023-07-12 07:10:23] Werner : Hermite: Hopefully but there's a ggreat possibility after hiss reaction on the w word
[2023-07-12 07:10:44] petyx : only US dolla
[2023-07-12 07:10:57] Finnic99 : 🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️🚁🚁🚁🚁🚁✈️✈️✈️🚀🚀✈️✈️🚁🚁🚁✈️🚀✈️🚁🚁🚁🚁🚁✈️✈️✈️🚁🚂🚁✈️🚀🚁✈️✈️✈️
[2023-07-12 07:11:04] BigBadShort : God bless you guys!
[2023-07-12 07:11:08] petyx : God safe teh queen
[2023-07-12 07:11:42] BigBadShort : btw which number today will be announced in US?
[2023-07-12 07:11:58] BigBadShort : number which can impact the market or something
[2023-07-12 07:12:49] Finnic99 : KEEP BUYINH
[2023-07-12 07:12:52] Finnic99 : buying
[2023-07-12 07:13:32] Hermite : Werner: Well, then (1) the admin team will be contacted, (2) bad publicity to bitmex for unreasonably executing admin power, (3) I will stop trading here, and ask everyone I know to stop. By way I am sure Arthur would be on the side of common sense.
[2023-07-12 07:13:55] Werner : Hermite: AGREE TRUE
[2023-07-12 07:14:06] BigBadShort : Trollbox power!
[2023-07-12 07:14:24] BigBadShort : W power!
[2023-07-12 07:14:28] Werner : Hermite: Though i'venoticed friends dont listen when you tell them that an exchange did you wrong and they should stop tradin there
[2023-07-12 07:14:35] Werner : they just see whats easy for them
[2023-07-12 07:14:38] Werner : until they rekt
[2023-07-12 07:14:51] BigBadShort : LTC 144?
[2023-07-12 07:14:59] Finnic99 : 🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️🚁🚁🚁🚁🚁✈️✈️✈️🚀🚀✈️✈️🚁🚁🚁✈️🚀✈️🚁🚁🚁🚁🚁✈️✈️✈️🚁🚂🚁✈️🚀🚁✈️✈️✈️
[2023-07-12 07:15:05] BigBadShort : BTC 44k, LTC 144, ETH 2400 ?
[2023-07-12 07:15:28] Finnic99 : 48k
[2023-07-12 07:16:16] FishyGuy : just putting this out there... "free speech".. doesn't exist on a private forum
[2023-07-12 07:16:35] Werner : FishyGuy: that sounds fishy
[2023-07-12 07:17:24] Werner : I warned a lot of my frens to stop trading on ftx
[2023-07-12 07:17:30] Werner : and they wont listen
[2023-07-12 07:17:35] Werner : they were simping over sam
[2023-07-12 07:17:40] Werner : now they rekt
[2023-07-12 07:18:14] Finnic99 : https://youtu.be/I8-mmODLswE?t=890 🚀✈️🚁✈️✈️✈️✈️🎧🎧🎧🎧🎧🎧🎧🎧🎧🎧🎧🎧🎧🎧 @Werner @FishyGuy
[2023-07-12 07:18:24] Werner : ✈️✈️✈️
[2023-07-12 07:18:50] Hermite : FishyGuy: does it mean that you can be shut off at will of someone on the admin team?
[2023-07-12 07:19:43] Atlemos : Any trolls up yet??
[2023-07-12 07:20:41] Atlemos : This looks like the classic bitcoin fund manager parabola
[2023-07-12 07:20:54] Finnic99 : 🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️🚁🚁🚁🚁🚁✈️✈️✈️🚀🚀✈️✈️🚁🚁🚁✈️🚀✈️🚁🚁🚁🚁🚁✈️✈️✈️🚁🚂🚁✈️🚀🚁✈️✈️✈️🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️🚁🚁🚁🚁🚁✈️✈️✈️🚀🚀✈️✈️🚁🚁🚁✈️🚀✈️🚁🚁🚁🚁🚁✈️✈️✈️🚁🚂🚁✈️🚀🚁✈️✈️✈️
[2023-07-12 07:21:06] Werner : 🚂🚁✈️🚀🚁✈️✈️✈️🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️🚁🚁🚁🚁🚁✈️✈️✈️🚀🚀✈️✈️🚁🚁🚁✈️🚀✈️🚁🚁🚁🚁🚁✈️✈️✈️🚁🚂🚁✈️🚀🚁✈️✈️✈️
[2023-07-12 07:21:26] Luke Short : Werner: I Hope you still have your bch long. I closed mine in a loss which sucks
[2023-07-12 07:21:41] Luke Short : Would have been nice gains by now
[2023-07-12 07:21:54] Werner : Luke Short: i closed mine at 277 and 276.5 ssir cuz entry was low, longed ltc insttead at 100xx
[2023-07-12 07:21:55] Werner : lol
[2023-07-12 07:22:02] FishyGuy : Hermite: yes and why not. Their place, their rules. Nobody is oppressing your rights. You chose to come and chose to agree to their rules, soooo you can choose to go somewhere else if you'd like to be that bothered about being asked to not say something
[2023-07-12 07:22:08] Finnic99 : /position xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: 15,000 USD @ 30731.8797 ```
[2023-07-12 07:22:11] Finnic99 : /position xbtu23 ``` :bitmex: XBTU23: 1,000 USD @ 31038.5 ```
[2023-07-12 07:22:12] Werner : Luke Short: yeah i see loss in the guild channel, i figurred sirr
[2023-07-12 07:22:24] Werner : Luke Short: better than getting rekt i guess
[2023-07-12 07:22:47] Hermite : FishyGuy: Rules is the key word here. There is a rule on hate speech that was quoted. Where is the hate speech?
[2023-07-12 07:23:04] Luke Short : Ah, nice. Still a LTC believer :D
[2023-07-12 07:23:22] Finnic99 : BUY BUY BUY MOON MOON MOOB
[2023-07-12 07:23:24] Finnic99 : MOON
[2023-07-12 07:23:27] Werner : FishyGuy: What if the admin only discriminates against one side ? And if admin is breaking the rules can we not try and complain to his manager to get the issue resolved before quitting the platform because no resolution was met ?
[2023-07-12 07:23:41] Werner : Luke Short: heehe
[2023-07-12 07:24:28] Werner : Luke Short: NOTT JUST a normal believer, see the lev on thatt thing https://ibb.co/j8DMW7S
[2023-07-12 07:24:31] Werner : :arthur:
[2023-07-12 07:24:42] Werner : Despicable behaviour sir
[2023-07-12 07:24:47] Werner : cringe worthy
[2023-07-12 07:25:51] Luke Short : Damn, no room at all
[2023-07-12 07:26:16] Werner : Luke Short: lol, now i've put a stop at breakeven
[2023-07-12 07:26:21] FishyGuy : idk what was said Hermite, just saw someone bitching about being asked to change topic.. idk why that's so hard to get? Adm1ns asked, company asked them to mod the chat.. that's the "law" here.
[2023-07-12 07:26:36] Werner : Luke Short: so one of 2 things either money or more volume to my guild
[2023-07-12 07:26:42] Werner : to unclock the pot at 1 m
[2023-07-12 07:27:20] Luke Short : Werner: nice. 👍 SteveS. scared me out, I‘ll wait for some action for now
[2023-07-12 07:27:27] VictorAndresAmu : Pewwww Pewwww pewww!!!🎇🎆
[2023-07-12 07:28:00] Hermite : FishyGuy: Please above, @Werner has quoted the conversion above.
[2023-07-12 07:28:05] Werner : Luke Short: steven is a clown seriously, always comes on says short, as a joke mostly cuz he never looks at the chart and never trades himself but good sir better safe than sorry
[2023-07-12 07:28:27] Hermite : FishyGuy: the admin did not even asked to change to topic, actually there were not topics at all, just random words.
[2023-07-12 07:28:31] Werner : Hermite: ignore
[2023-07-12 07:28:52] Werner : Hermite: just wait until he faces similar situation and we'd treat him the same, dont like it go somewhere else
[2023-07-12 07:29:00] Finnic99 : Werner: I like to think Steven isn't joke and he is just in complete denial and has his head in the sand
[2023-07-12 07:29:15] Werner : Finnic99: yeah very much possible sir, mahalo !
[2023-07-12 07:29:18] Luke Short : Werner: can‘t be. His omen applies so many times. Can‘t deny it.
[2023-07-12 07:29:24] Finnic99 : Werner: indeed sir
[2023-07-12 07:29:28] Werner : Luke Short: lol
[2023-07-12 07:29:32] Werner : STEVENSONOOB
[2023-07-12 07:29:38] Finnic99 : Werner: https://youtu.be/MJOGVMeokio?t=547
[2023-07-12 07:29:39] Werner : Whenever steven is see here call short
[2023-07-12 07:29:46] Werner : just counter tradde him and you gold sir
[2023-07-12 07:30:07] Joeyy132 : Lol bch
[2023-07-12 07:30:10] Joeyy132 : Hehe
[2023-07-12 07:30:17] Werner : Joeyy132: fook
[2023-07-12 07:30:23] Werner : Luke Short: fook didntt see bch mooned
[2023-07-12 07:30:25] Werner : fkk man
[2023-07-12 07:30:28] Werner : closed my long
[2023-07-12 07:30:34] Joeyy132 : Werner: no moon sir
[2023-07-12 07:30:36] Luke Short : Werner: I tried.. he is right though - maybe not always and not in every timeframe, but he is right
[2023-07-12 07:30:48] Werner : Joeyy132: ?
[2023-07-12 07:30:50] Finnic99 : time to pass 30800 soon!
[2023-07-12 07:31:01] Joeyy132 : Werner: the move just started
[2023-07-12 07:31:10] Finnic99 : THE MOON IS RISING
[2023-07-12 07:31:11] Werner : Joeyy132: yeah but still a lill moon still
[2023-07-12 07:31:24] Werner : Joeyy132: do you think ltc is about to do the same, see chart ?
[2023-07-12 07:31:27] bluemaster : Finnic99: be nice to poor old @SteveS ,his wife run away,sold bitcoins to low and lost all his money
[2023-07-12 07:31:29] Joeyy132 : Werner: yes
[2023-07-12 07:31:29] The_Reaper : Bch had vecome a foul chinese scam
[2023-07-12 07:31:31] BigBadShort : Long has not started yet
[2023-07-12 07:31:38] Finnic99 : /position xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: 15,000 USD @ 30731.8797 ```
[2023-07-12 07:31:43] Werner : Joeyy132: hopefully fingers crossed
[2023-07-12 07:31:43] The_Reaper : Has become*
[2023-07-12 07:31:46] Finnic99 : /position xbtu23 @bluemaster ``` :bitmex: XBTU23: 1,000 USD @ 31038.5 ```
[2023-07-12 07:31:49] Joeyy132 : /position bchusdt ``` :bitmex: BCHUSDT: 14.05 BCH @ 269.8637 ```
[2023-07-12 07:31:59] bluemaster : The_Reaper: just keep to expire mate
[2023-07-12 07:32:00] Werner : Joeyy132: nice sir
[2023-07-12 07:34:20] Fuun : as u can see, kids.
[2023-07-12 07:34:34] Fuun : your drama improvs arent working, like u think.
[2023-07-12 07:35:09] Fuun : still a dead chat, with the same emotional characters.
[2023-07-12 07:35:14] Fuun : try harder.
[2023-07-12 07:35:19] BigBadShort : Werner: order pizza delivery guy's name Wilmer :)
[2023-07-12 07:35:56] Werner : BigBadShort: lol hehe, signs sir signs
[2023-07-12 07:36:10] BigBadShort : Signs mate :) BigBadWIlmer
[2023-07-12 07:38:54] Luke Short : Fuun: -1 Sir
[2023-07-12 07:39:13] Son-of-SteveS. : mmm
[2023-07-12 07:39:54] Werner : hehe
[2023-07-12 07:40:32] Joeyy132 : Sell bch
[2023-07-12 07:40:32] The_Reaper : Back off pups 🤣
[2023-07-12 07:41:35] Luke Short : I have to go. I won‘t be able to bear Steve‘s triumph cheer. Short everything, putin more funds to short on all sides. Down only. Dead cats don‘t bounce.
[2023-07-12 07:42:18] Luke Short : Joeyy132: +1
[2023-07-12 07:42:50] wassa_wassa_bitconee : I hope everyone shorted below 30.8k
[2023-07-12 07:43:15] BigBadShort : faka_makafo
[2023-07-12 07:43:15] Fuun : sad.
[2023-07-12 07:43:55] Luke Short : Fuun: funny you say that
[2023-07-12 07:45:48] Son-of-SteveS. : MEGADUMP AHEAD!!!! GAME OVER BULLTARDS
[2023-07-12 07:46:15] Finnic99 : MEGA PUMP INCOMING
[2023-07-12 07:46:20] Finnic99 : BUY BUY BUY
[2023-07-12 07:46:27] Finnic99 : 🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️🚁🚁🚁🚁🚁🚁
[2023-07-12 07:46:45] Son-of-SteveS. : Finnic99: rekt
[2023-07-12 07:49:27] Son-of-SteveS. : rejection! again and again!! :downrocket:
[2023-07-12 07:50:18] XRP Whale : :catjam: :catjam: :catjam:
[2023-07-12 07:52:16] petyx : SHORT SELL ALL COINS
[2023-07-12 07:52:43] VictorAndresAmu : shitcoins
[2023-07-12 07:54:34] hehe MOON : Up only
[2023-07-12 07:54:38] hehe MOON : Only up
[2023-07-12 07:54:45] hehe MOON : 🚀🚀🚀
[2023-07-12 07:55:42] Son-of-SteveS. : buttcoin miner destructiuon soon. be careful 16800
[2023-07-12 07:56:52] petyx : Son-of-SteveS.: 😈 ultra ded trend
[2023-07-12 07:57:03] Luke Short : don't forget to trade your xbt to usdt on the spotmarket before trading derivates
[2023-07-12 07:57:06] Son-of-SteveS. : petyx: Its over! DOWN ONLY DOWN
[2023-07-12 07:57:15] al guul : gm bois! dont you get rekt now berabros! You are paying for da paaarty 😆
[2023-07-12 07:57:44] Luke Short : ❗💀❗💀❗
[2023-07-12 07:59:01] hehe MOON : Son-of-SteveS.: Congratulations, you graduated clown school 🤡 🏅. Your father StevenClown will be very proud
[2023-07-12 07:59:13] Son-of-SteveS. : # @hehe MOON +1
[2023-07-12 07:59:37] Werner : hehe MOON: lool
[2023-07-12 07:59:47] Werner : Up only Only up 🚀🚀🚀
[2023-07-12 08:00:03] Senior. Professor. : Werner: Up only Only up 🚀🚀🚀 **back, ser.** :doge: :catjam:
[2023-07-12 08:00:12] Werner : Senior. Professor.: SIRR UP ONLY SIR
[2023-07-12 08:00:15] Werner : ONLY UP
[2023-07-12 08:00:37] Crypto_Cowboy_1982 : the moon shines bright
[2023-07-12 08:00:46] Senior. Professor. : Werner: mahalo :doge: :catjam: :kek: :alpaca:
[2023-07-12 08:01:07] XRP Whale : Werner: @Senior. Professor. :catjam: :catjam: :catjam:
[2023-07-12 08:02:25] Werner : :DOGE:
[2023-07-12 08:02:28] Werner : Damn stupid ltc
[2023-07-12 08:02:40] Werner : why did i close the bch long to max long ltc
[2023-07-12 08:02:42] Werner : why why why
[2023-07-12 08:02:49] Werner : stupid ltc moon nowww
[2023-07-12 08:02:51] Werner : KING COIN
[2023-07-12 08:03:00] Werner : ULTRA PREMIUM SUPER PRO MAX KING COIN LTC
[2023-07-12 08:03:52] Son-of-SteveS. : stupid bulls never learn....
[2023-07-12 08:04:22] Werner : /position bchusd ``` :bitmex: BCHUSD: -25 Cont @ 284.78 ```
[2023-07-12 08:04:29] Werner : bch sgtcoin dieee
[2023-07-12 08:07:50] al guul : If it continues up only, you will need to summon _the father_ , ser. Bera seems extremely delusional and in need of some spiritual guidance @Werner
[2023-07-12 08:08:15] Son-of-SteveS. : al guul: my father will appear soon....
[2023-07-12 08:08:32] Werner : al guul: BIG BIG SSEND SIRS
[2023-07-12 08:09:21] al guul : the longest long on the interwebs ser! @Werner
[2023-07-12 08:09:45] Werner : al guul: a big big send sirs
[2023-07-12 08:10:59] Son-of-SteveS. : 10k in august
[2023-07-12 08:15:27] petyx : bitcoin will fall
[2023-07-12 08:16:07] BitMEX_Hans : :rollercoaster:
[2023-07-12 08:16:07] BigBadShort : _I was there, Gandalf. I was there three thousand years ago. I was there the day the strength of Men failed._
[2023-07-12 08:16:13] petyx : there is critical 0-day vulnurability discovered by North Korean hackers
[2023-07-12 08:16:28] al guul : yes
[2023-07-12 08:16:39] BigBadShort : petyx: what is vulnerable?
[2023-07-12 08:16:40] al guul : in bera brain
[2023-07-12 08:17:16] Werner : BigBadShort: WERNERED !
[2023-07-12 08:17:21] petyx : BigBadShort: they will double spend all your betsht coins
[2023-07-12 08:17:34] bluemaster : Resistance is Futile Beras 😜 https://www.ac.com.au/upload/borg-ship.jpg
[2023-07-12 08:17:55] Werner : so much money yet such a small man
[2023-07-12 08:18:02] Werner : enjoying his one man guild
[2023-07-12 08:18:05] petyx : prepare to collapse of collapses
[2023-07-12 08:18:14] Werner : set the bvd on fire
[2023-07-12 08:19:03] BigBadShort : petyx: north koreans are good guys
[2023-07-12 08:19:17] BigBadShort : koreans are all good
[2023-07-12 08:19:19] Senior. Professor. : Werner: Up only, ser.
[2023-07-12 08:19:41] Werner : Senior. Professor.: Only up sir !
[2023-07-12 08:19:46] petyx : Senior. Professor.: Sir, what we waiting for? when rug pull?
[2023-07-12 08:19:57] petyx : only Senior Professor know
[2023-07-12 08:19:58] Werner : BitMEX_Hans: https://twitter.com/JustWormsdao/status/1678813290104000514
[2023-07-12 08:19:59] BigBadShort : one of the best guys I have ever met is Korean
[2023-07-12 08:20:16] Senior. Professor. : petyx: Patience, ser. :doge:
[2023-07-12 08:20:18] Werner : korean guys are cool
[2023-07-12 08:21:27] BitMEX_Hans : Werner: I like it, but you're leaking some email addresses :/ Wondering why these guys don't use other usernames
[2023-07-12 08:21:48] BigBadShort : Werner: Great music!
[2023-07-12 08:22:07] BigBadShort : And Video itself, awesome.
[2023-07-12 08:22:19] Werner : BitMEX_Hans: i think they not serious need a kyc reminder
[2023-07-12 08:22:25] Werner : BigBadShort: Mahalo sir !
[2023-07-12 08:22:27] BitMEX_Hans : ahh okay
[2023-07-12 08:22:46] BitMEX_Hans : nice video though :)
[2023-07-12 08:22:52] Werner : BitMEX_Hans: lol, nice catch thought
[2023-07-12 08:22:58] Werner : though*
[2023-07-12 08:23:00] BitMEX_Hans : :kek:
[2023-07-12 08:23:00] Werner : mahalo !
[2023-07-12 08:23:07] Werner : :doge:
[2023-07-12 08:26:01] petyx : long US dolla
[2023-07-12 08:30:15] hehe MOON : Son-of-SteveS.: Its LERN not learn , im thinking you paid someone for your clown certificate
[2023-07-12 08:30:41] Son-of-SteveS. : hehe MOON: -1
[2023-07-12 08:31:37] al guul : leern eet
[2023-07-12 08:32:31] Werner : /position bchusd ``` :bitmex: BCHUSD: -45 Cont @ 284.95 ```
[2023-07-12 08:33:27] Tony Montana. : Where is Chico when you need him ffs.
[2023-07-12 08:34:15] Werner : Tony Montana.: who tf is that ?
[2023-07-12 08:34:26] Tony Montana. : Ma homie, mang
[2023-07-12 08:34:38] Werner : Tony Montana.: lol, okay
[2023-07-12 08:34:41] al guul : elCheeso?
[2023-07-12 08:35:01] al guul : was here last night
[2023-07-12 08:36:03] GRGREY03 : Jjj
[2023-07-12 08:40:07] Luke Short : ❗💀❗💀❗💀❗
[2023-07-12 08:43:52] Luke Short : 🔻❗💀❗🔻❗💀❗🔻
[2023-07-12 08:46:20] Hermite : Tony Montana.: nice nickname 😀
[2023-07-12 08:46:29] petyx : ultra short sell it
[2023-07-12 08:46:29] petyx : cows in max fomo mode
[2023-07-12 08:46:30] MrBath : Hope you all took profits.. 30400 incoming.
[2023-07-12 08:46:35] Tony Montana. : 😎
[2023-07-12 08:47:28] MrBath : reenter around 30300
[2023-07-12 08:51:37] Luke Short : shit is going down
[2023-07-12 08:51:39] Luke Short : 🔻❗💀❗🔻❗💀❗🔻
[2023-07-12 08:52:07] Luke Short : just flush the toilet already
[2023-07-12 08:57:06] hehe MOON : Weak ass bearas
[2023-07-12 08:59:53] al guul : 31.2 when she breks
[2023-07-12 09:00:04] Luke Short : When the US wakes up BTC will run down the drain under heavy rain of sells
[2023-07-12 09:00:17] wtf omg : al guul: and holds!!
[2023-07-12 09:00:29] al guul : wtf omg: indeed ser!
[2023-07-12 09:01:24] wtf omg : I hope it wont be buy the news and sell the event today
[2023-07-12 09:03:16] Daanssda : we either hit 31700
[2023-07-12 09:03:19] Daanssda : and rip down
[2023-07-12 09:03:22] Daanssda : or we go at least 32.6
[2023-07-12 09:03:31] Daanssda : we wont dump earlier lol
[2023-07-12 09:03:34] Daanssda : it would not make any sense
[2023-07-12 09:03:37] Daanssda : to much liquidity above
[2023-07-12 09:06:38] Hermite : Daanssda: you think there is enough fuel get to 32.6?
[2023-07-12 09:06:46] Daanssda : Hermite: for sure lol
[2023-07-12 09:07:02] Daanssda : i've seen 3-4k cpi moves
[2023-07-12 09:07:10] Daanssda : one went from 21k all the way to 24k
[2023-07-12 09:07:11] Daanssda : lol
[2023-07-12 09:07:26] Daanssda : If 31.7 does not reject
[2023-07-12 09:07:30] Daanssda : 32.6 is a given
[2023-07-12 09:07:32] Daanssda : since it'
[2023-07-12 09:07:35] Hermite : Daanssda: 29 ~ 29.9 is a plausible channel, I think we are going there first.
[2023-07-12 09:07:36] Daanssda : it's the next level
[2023-07-12 09:07:40] al guul : true
[2023-07-12 09:07:50] Daanssda : Hermite: But why would we?
[2023-07-12 09:07:54] Daanssda : what is their to gan
[2023-07-12 09:07:55] Daanssda : gain
[2023-07-12 09:07:57] Daanssda : for the market makers
[2023-07-12 09:08:00] Daanssda : to go there first and then up?
[2023-07-12 09:08:14] ddp786 : pooo
[2023-07-12 09:08:30] Hermite : Daanssda: the tank is not full just yet, need a refuel.
[2023-07-12 09:09:03] Daanssda : Am just a level to level guy
[2023-07-12 09:09:12] Hermite : Daanssda: there will be a move to up to 36k
[2023-07-12 09:09:15] Daanssda : don't see that happening