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[2023-04-27 19:58:54] The_Reaper : its not doing any effort here to recover
[2023-04-27 19:59:48] al guul : I declare baaaankruptcy
[2023-04-27 20:00:07] LittleBuck : Descending btc 1 for s mann https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcSoLwFisaw tankz the price everyy time i hear/short btc
[2023-04-27 20:00:34] g1-110 : /competition ``` :bitmex: There is no active competition ```
[2023-04-27 20:00:44] Dario2 : gemeo2: mate I solved the high tax problem in the Netherlands. If I stay less than 183 days in the country, then at least 3 months in Dubai as tax resident with my FZ company and the rest of the year in Spain or any other country, then I have to pay only 0% tax and it's fully legal
[2023-04-27 20:02:12] SteveS. : SangFrais: dude, why do you have all this weird info, collecting cans, and where best free meal is after a flipping burger shift??
[2023-04-27 20:02:16] SteveS. : Lol
[2023-04-27 20:02:50] SangFrais : SteveS.: maybe its weird for you because i dont have a self inflated perception of myself
[2023-04-27 20:03:01] SteveS. : SangFrais: lol
[2023-04-27 20:03:25] SangFrais : even if it was a joke i wouldnt care to say it is
[2023-04-27 20:03:39] gemeo2 : Dario2: Oh clever, so where is your residency, surely not the Netherlands?
[2023-04-27 20:03:59] SteveS. : SangFrais: sorry, yeah collecting can seems to suits you. Someone has to do it lol
[2023-04-27 20:04:40] SteveS. : Let me mute the dimwit
[2023-04-27 20:05:33] gemeo2 : :bog: pomp eet again
[2023-04-27 20:06:23] SangFrais : Dario2: yeah thats a pretty good loophole lots of people are using that
[2023-04-27 20:07:00] SangFrais : you just have to be resident somewhere else and not be more than half the year in NL
[2023-04-27 20:08:00] Pr0metheus : Maybe Satoshi was a pedophile then
[2023-04-27 20:08:40] Dario2 : gemeo2: I'm a Dutch citizen but if I stay in Dubai for 3 months in a year, working for my FZ company, I get a tax residency certificate from Dubai which I have to show to the tax authorities in the Netherlands. Did it for the past 3 years and no problems whatsoever
[2023-04-27 20:09:17] Dario2 : SangFrais: Yes, a lot of Europeans are living in Dubai specially in the Marina area
[2023-04-27 20:09:28] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 200 USD @ 29577.5
[2023-04-27 20:09:36] Dario2 : Looks more modern than Amsterdam and it's safer too
[2023-04-27 20:11:09] The_Reaper : https://prnt.sc/I7HzVGYcPwGH
[2023-04-27 20:11:47] The_Reaper : bitstamp is being used to sell bitcoins
[2023-04-27 20:11:55] The_Reaper : u can check their orderbook
[2023-04-27 20:12:07] SangFrais : Dario2: yeah the only thing thats weird in emirates is that if your company grosses more than 1m a year they have a lot of strict compliance stuff
[2023-04-27 20:12:10] The_Reaper : 18 btc at once now
[2023-04-27 20:12:11] The_Reaper : lol
[2023-04-27 20:12:30] gemeo2 : Dario2: cool you savea fortune
[2023-04-27 20:12:33] SangFrais : its like theres different rules for below and over 1m
[2023-04-27 20:13:24] The_Reaper : starting to look like copy of yesterday
[2023-04-27 20:13:45] The_Reaper : would be funny, only this time 25k tp :D
[2023-04-27 20:14:02] The_Reaper : @pyontrader short still open?
[2023-04-27 20:14:17] Dario2 : SangFrais: true mate that's why I have other companies in other tax heavens with 0% corporate tax. My FZ company in Dubai is not very big so never had any issues with it
[2023-04-27 20:14:46] The_Reaper : Wheres that Husky when u need him
[2023-04-27 20:14:53] Dario2 : gemeo2: Yeah mate, imagine saving 45+% per year
[2023-04-27 20:16:10] SangFrais : Dario2: yeah smart and yeah its definitely better over there than amsterdam where you cant wear a watch ring or necklace or drive too nice of a car
[2023-04-27 20:16:43] SangFrais : if the criminals dont harass you then the clueless police will do it
[2023-04-27 20:17:22] The_Reaper : FED selling silk road btc's
[2023-04-27 20:17:47] gemeo2 : chart startin to look like poo poo
[2023-04-27 20:18:13] The_Reaper : gemeo2: its bots copying yesterdays trade
[2023-04-27 20:18:16] Dario2 : SangFrais: Exactly bro. I was once in the Bijlmer, Amsterdam Zuidoost at night and got robbed. They had a gun too. Glad I survived it
[2023-04-27 20:18:18] The_Reaper : gemeo2: 😁
[2023-04-27 20:19:34] gemeo2 : think this exchanges hunting for stops
[2023-04-27 20:19:52] gemeo2 : they must be broke
[2023-04-27 20:19:52] The_Reaper : dunno tbh
[2023-04-27 20:20:01] The_Reaper : but theres heavy selling going on
[2023-04-27 20:20:02] The_Reaper : thats for sure
[2023-04-27 20:20:11] The_Reaper : i'm just checking stamp and coinbase
[2023-04-27 20:20:15] SangFrais : Dario2: damn yea crazy shiz only a few other EU countries and US is worse in that perspective
[2023-04-27 20:20:36] Pr0metheus : As if chatgdp 5 don’t know who satoshi is 😂😅
[2023-04-27 20:20:48] Dario2 : SangFrais: Yeah I remember your experience in LA lol you survived it 5 times or so? lmao
[2023-04-27 20:20:50] The_Reaper : below 29300 it will be waterfall
[2023-04-27 20:20:57] The_Reaper : if they get this support sold
[2023-04-27 20:21:06] SangFrais : Dario2: lol you must have a really good memory
[2023-04-27 20:21:25] The_Reaper : there is nothing there anymore in lower orderbooks
[2023-04-27 20:21:25] Dario2 : SangFrais: I never use drugs mate maybe that's why
[2023-04-27 20:21:38] SangFrais : but yeah los angeles was crazy especially inglewood right next to the airport even more so than compton
[2023-04-27 20:22:22] Dario2 : SangFrais: I would still prefer LA or San Diego or Florida over EU. Fuck other than the gun issue, everything else is better there
[2023-04-27 20:22:42] The_Reaper : 🚨 🚨 🚨 🚨 105,000,000 #XRP (49,297,370 USD) transferred from unknown wallet to unknown wallet
[2023-04-27 20:24:34] SangFrais : Dario2: yeah true generally me too the people are much nicer over there regardless of everything else
[2023-04-27 20:24:44] The_Reaper : support gonna go bang here most likely, relentless sells on coinbase
[2023-04-27 20:26:36] Dario2 : SangFrais: The best people in the world. Love them really. The land of the opportunities. Take IT engineers for example, they earn 12K or so per month on average in US but here in NL 5K or so?
[2023-04-27 20:26:37] bluemaster : silly Kids :btc:
[2023-04-27 20:26:51] The_Reaper : https://prnt.sc/V0-mnGI_2xMR
[2023-04-27 20:27:03] The_Reaper : small sells, but this can go on for long time, depending how big stack is
[2023-04-27 20:28:07] Dario2 : The costal states are nice but other states look like 3rd world countries. So I never travel there
[2023-04-27 20:28:40] Dario2 : coastal*
[2023-04-27 20:29:01] SangFrais : Dario2: yeah EU is falling hard in that regard even a lot of Turkish people who are born in NL they get a degree and go to Turkey because they get paid more and in IT ive also seen a lot of people go to either China or US for exponential higher pay and much lower taxes
[2023-04-27 20:30:03] gaferreira : what's up fellow prodigal multi millionaire fund managers
[2023-04-27 20:30:23] perryy : :doge:
[2023-04-27 20:30:36] The_Reaper : perryy: :arthur::arthur::arthur:
[2023-04-27 20:30:42] gaferreira : ready for the last UMP
[2023-04-27 20:30:56] perryy : send it
[2023-04-27 20:30:57] The_Reaper : was that a P or D
[2023-04-27 20:31:27] gaferreira : The_Reaper: that detail will be given later
[2023-04-27 20:31:33] The_Reaper : gaferreira: 😁
[2023-04-27 20:31:35] gaferreira : for now its guaranteed ump
[2023-04-27 20:31:48] SonJulNam2-2 : Nothing happened
[2023-04-27 20:32:10] perryy : ump only
[2023-04-27 20:32:12] perryy : :doge:
[2023-04-27 20:32:21] gaferreira : :doge:
[2023-04-27 20:32:54] Dario2 : SangFrais: Indeed mate indeed. Yeah I heard about the highly educated Turks returning back. Here people, in general, look down on them but in their own country they can have a much better and happier life. So I understand their choices. Istanbul looks pretty much like an European city tbh, except for their drinking water which sucks
[2023-04-27 20:32:57] gemeo2 : this TA is shite
[2023-04-27 20:33:27] gaferreira : turkey is 3rd world
[2023-04-27 20:33:38] Dario2 : Haven't been in Turkey for 6 years or so maybe its quality has improved
[2023-04-27 20:33:49] gaferreira : i doubt it
[2023-04-27 20:33:50] gaferreira : :kek:
[2023-04-27 20:34:00] gaferreira : its umping guyse
[2023-04-27 20:34:05] Fuun : dead theFuunbox.
[2023-04-27 20:34:09] perryy : :doge:
[2023-04-27 20:34:11] Fuun : still no friends, kids?
[2023-04-27 20:34:14] Fuun : :joy:
[2023-04-27 20:34:36] gaferreira : to where?
[2023-04-27 20:34:50] gaferreira : can we finally hit my 32k target from last summer tho? :kek:
[2023-04-27 20:34:52] gemeo2 : pullback and double bottom, wtf? this stinks
[2023-04-27 20:35:04] SangFrais : Dario2: yeah turkey definitely seems to do much better than a lot of eastern EU countries
[2023-04-27 20:35:08] Dario2 : Fuun: Love you Fuun 😈
[2023-04-27 20:36:41] Dario2 : SangFrais: I heard if you buy a property in Turkey worth at least 400K you can get the Turkish passport within 3 months and no need to learn the language
[2023-04-27 20:36:55] Gef30 : btc up
[2023-04-27 20:37:00] Gef30 : horse meat strong
[2023-04-27 20:37:16] Fuun : mute, refresh, type, done.
[2023-04-27 20:37:19] Fuun : its simple.
[2023-04-27 20:37:23] Dario2 : You can even change your name and start a new life there, but the high inflation rate there is certainly not healthy. It was almost 80% or so this year
[2023-04-27 20:37:35] The_Reaper : dere will be no double bottoms sir
[2023-04-27 20:37:53] gaferreira : Gef30: long horse meat
[2023-04-27 20:37:55] Dario2 : Fuun: Exactly! seems like the best strategy here at times 😄
[2023-04-27 20:38:04] SangFrais : Dario2: yeah thats not strange in portugal it was almost the same maybe 400k or 500k to get residency
[2023-04-27 20:38:24] gaferreira : SangFrais: yep true
[2023-04-27 20:38:34] gaferreira : and if u someow prove you're sephardim too
[2023-04-27 20:38:49] gaferreira : so basically half of america maybe
[2023-04-27 20:38:58] Gef30 : who else is smoking marlboro
[2023-04-27 20:39:02] Dario2 : SangFrais: true 500K in portugal, the same as spain but it takes 10 years to get the spanish passport, portugal I think 5 years
[2023-04-27 20:39:06] The_Reaper : there is litteraly no support under 29500
[2023-04-27 20:39:12] The_Reaper : its all gone
[2023-04-27 20:39:23] Gef30 : The_Reaper: support strong
[2023-04-27 20:39:30] gaferreira : Gef30: chesterfield for me
[2023-04-27 20:39:45] The_Reaper : doubtfull, there is nice selling pressure atm
[2023-04-27 20:39:49] gaferreira : The_Reaper: u high or smth
[2023-04-27 20:40:10] gaferreira : support is 27600
[2023-04-27 20:40:12] The_Reaper : gaferreira: ye, high on the short entry
[2023-04-27 20:40:17] The_Reaper : 😁
[2023-04-27 20:40:23] gaferreira : kek, good luck sir
[2023-04-27 20:40:31] gemeo2 : this looks ready to fall
[2023-04-27 20:40:32] Gef30 : The_Reaper: liquidation notification
[2023-04-27 20:40:54] gemeo2 : am gonna call it quits for now, SL at entry
[2023-04-27 20:40:57] Dario2 : SangFrais: googled it. 500K spain, 280K portugal. sorry
[2023-04-27 20:40:58] gemeo2 : /position xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: 10,000 USD @ 29507 ```
[2023-04-27 20:41:06] Gef30 : let me open 50mcont just to screw your short
[2023-04-27 20:41:13] SangFrais : Dario2: yeah i dont really see the need to get another passport when its so easy to get around tax or get resident status anywhere
[2023-04-27 20:41:17] The_Reaper : bitskank has stopped selling, but still price is going down
[2023-04-27 20:41:20] gaferreira : gemeo2: ayy
[2023-04-27 20:41:20] The_Reaper : so who is it
[2023-04-27 20:41:22] gaferreira : /position xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: 1,000 USD @ 29512.6285 ```
[2023-04-27 20:41:46] Gef30 : /position xbtusd
[2023-04-27 20:42:02] Gef30 : /position xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: 25,700 USD @ 29559.213 ```
[2023-04-27 20:42:08] The_Reaper : don't get rekt bois, i hope ur right, for your own sake
[2023-04-27 20:42:10] The_Reaper : :D
[2023-04-27 20:42:18] gaferreira : The_Reaper: what u just described is called a trap sir
[2023-04-27 20:42:35] The_Reaper : https://prnt.sc/dxtsW7_I4aXX
[2023-04-27 20:42:45] The_Reaper : This bera we are dealing with is too big for the traps
[2023-04-27 20:42:55] The_Reaper : i fear
[2023-04-27 20:42:59] The_Reaper : if u look at y'days candle
[2023-04-27 20:43:17] Gef30 : The_Reaper: 1minute today only important
[2023-04-27 20:43:22] Gef30 : yesterday is not today bri
[2023-04-27 20:43:24] Gef30 : bro
[2023-04-27 20:43:26] Dario2 : SangFrais: exactly I think the same, but if I had the US passport I would certainly get rid of it as soon as possible. IRS follows you every where, even if you live outside US all the year, they still expect you to pay them tax
[2023-04-27 20:43:50] Gef30 : you trading 100x cross and looking at yesterdays candle
[2023-04-27 20:43:56] Gef30 : lmao
[2023-04-27 20:44:08] gaferreira : cross is not x100
[2023-04-27 20:44:30] Gef30 : cross margin
[2023-04-27 20:44:51] Gef30 : which means liquidated is account 0
[2023-04-27 20:44:58] gaferreira : yes
[2023-04-27 20:45:02] gaferreira : but its not x100
[2023-04-27 20:45:22] gaferreira : unless he licked the stamp and full sent it
[2023-04-27 20:45:47] Gef30 : just send it
[2023-04-27 20:46:16] Gef30 : you go to your job get your paycheck, send it go broke and repeat
[2023-04-27 20:46:37] gaferreira : always
[2023-04-27 20:46:55] Gef30 : not realising even after paycheck its already broke
[2023-04-27 20:48:06] The_Reaper : Gef30:brah, i'm trading millies on 3x max
[2023-04-27 20:48:08] The_Reaper : cross yes
[2023-04-27 20:48:43] gaferreira : ok maybe it will dip again
[2023-04-27 20:48:52] The_Reaper : Have u guys checked the weekly?
[2023-04-27 20:48:56] gaferreira : just to scare bulls
[2023-04-27 20:49:04] The_Reaper : 👀👀👀
[2023-04-27 20:49:30] The_Reaper : i see a potential 26k there, since btc is so eagerly completing all wicks
[2023-04-27 20:49:38] Dario2 : fuck
[2023-04-27 20:49:44] The_Reaper : and you know, it has to break or breakout somewhere :D
[2023-04-27 20:49:47] gaferreira : nah
[2023-04-27 20:50:13] gaferreira : we pump sir
[2023-04-27 20:50:17] Dario2 : The Reaper is correct 95% of the time so maybe I should close my long
[2023-04-27 20:50:19] The_Reaper : breaking 26k would lay the road open for 24.5
[2023-04-27 20:50:39] The_Reaper : just saying, you don't have to believe me, but all liquidity to 27k is gone
[2023-04-27 20:50:47] The_Reaper : in one wick
[2023-04-27 20:51:05] gaferreira : 24.5 is the literal bottommest bottom possible
[2023-04-27 20:51:09] The_Reaper : 30k is posing a substantial fight
[2023-04-27 20:51:25] Getr!ch : /orders xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: Buy 6,600 USD @ 26999 ```
[2023-04-27 20:51:30] Getr!ch : Go hit that ass
[2023-04-27 20:51:35] gaferreira : kek
[2023-04-27 20:52:12] gaferreira : i mean down, it could go to 24k at most, up, i can easily see 36k
[2023-04-27 20:52:14] The_Reaper : i do believe pyontraders trade is also still open
[2023-04-27 20:52:20] gaferreira : the r:r is too good
[2023-04-27 20:52:33] gaferreira : even 42k
[2023-04-27 20:52:36] gaferreira : easy
[2023-04-27 20:53:17] ointerMC : @admin noticed a bug where my stop dissapears from chart, refresh fixes it
[2023-04-27 20:53:42] gaferreira : this looks like may 2019
[2023-04-27 20:53:47] gaferreira : where we pumped yet again
[2023-04-27 20:54:12] gaferreira : before fucjkery started again
[2023-04-27 20:54:31] gaferreira : started end of june
[2023-04-27 20:57:45] bluemaster : Beras resistance is futile you will be liquidated https://www.ac.com.au/upload/borg-ship.jpg
[2023-04-27 20:57:57] bluemaster : /position xbtz23 ``` :bitmex: XBTZ23: 76,400 USD @ 28871.5275 ```
[2023-04-27 20:58:00] bluemaster : /position xbtu23 ``` :bitmex: XBTU23: 75,200 USD @ 28526.5197 ```
[2023-04-27 20:58:03] The_Reaper : bluemaster: 👽
[2023-04-27 20:58:03] bluemaster : /position xbtm23 ``` :bitmex: XBTM23: 121,900 USD @ 29603.5785 ```
[2023-04-27 20:59:17] gaferreira : bluemaster: hopefully your crowns mean you're right
[2023-04-27 20:59:29] gaferreira : what's your position on xbtusd tho :P
[2023-04-27 20:59:47] bluemaster : gaferreira: eventually
[2023-04-27 21:00:05] gaferreira : its not a bottom short i hope
[2023-04-27 21:00:51] gemeo2 : there's been some nasty bers lurkin in the woods of late
[2023-04-27 21:01:33] ointerMC : gemeo2: sir you have to yell "GO AWAY BEAR" and make yourself look big
[2023-04-27 21:01:37] The_Reaper : gemeo2: big grizzly ones
[2023-04-27 21:02:02] The_Reaper : gemeo2: special breed, green with a dollar sign on them
[2023-04-27 21:02:22] gaferreira : if (bitmex > index) short(); else if (bitmex < index) long();
[2023-04-27 21:02:28] gaferreira : ez
[2023-04-27 21:03:09] gemeo2 : Gold n silver bears look to be the most ferocious
[2023-04-27 21:04:33] Dario2 : gaferreira: Which language is this? C++?
[2023-04-27 21:04:57] gaferreira : could be, or C, or Java, or many others
[2023-04-27 21:05:15] Dario2 : would it be a profitable strategy?
[2023-04-27 21:05:25] gemeo2 : BBC Basic
[2023-04-27 21:05:29] gaferreira : ehhh more or less
[2023-04-27 21:05:38] Dario2 : nice
[2023-04-27 21:05:42] gaferreira : there are more nuances to it
[2023-04-27 21:05:45] gaferreira : gemeo2: lol
[2023-04-27 21:05:51] Dario2 : I see
[2023-04-27 21:06:14] gemeo2 : my first computer was ZX81, bought it in 1981
[2023-04-27 21:06:27] gemeo2 : upgrade of the ZX80
[2023-04-27 21:06:35] gaferreira : is that zx spectrum or smth else
[2023-04-27 21:06:58] gemeo2 : ZX Spectrum, ahh that came later
[2023-04-27 21:07:08] gemeo2 : those were the days
[2023-04-27 21:07:16] gemeo2 : school daze
[2023-04-27 21:07:24] clarknova : gemeo2: oric Atmos ;)
[2023-04-27 21:07:32] gaferreira : 90s were my days
[2023-04-27 21:07:49] gaferreira : no amigas or bbc
[2023-04-27 21:07:55] gemeo2 : ZX Spectrum had memory cards, ZX81 did not, had to type in all from cratch and couldn't save it
[2023-04-27 21:08:17] gemeo2 : an hour to play the simplest of games cos the keyboard was horrible
[2023-04-27 21:08:32] clarknova : gemeo2: you could save on tapes :)
[2023-04-27 21:08:32] gaferreira : lol
[2023-04-27 21:09:15] gemeo2 : clarknova: Is that so, well I was only ten at the time so didn't appreciate that. After I got Dragon32 and did save and load from cassette
[2023-04-27 21:10:20] clarknova : gemeo2: yeah I can still hear the sound of the recordings :)
[2023-04-27 21:11:05] gemeo2 : BBC Micro was the one
[2023-04-27 21:11:19] gemeo2 : I loved to rpogramme in Basic
[2023-04-27 21:11:40] clarknova : gemeo2: apple2 was the game changer
[2023-04-27 21:11:44] Dario2 : gemeo2: good old days. I started with QBasic when I was 12
[2023-04-27 21:11:45] gaferreira : that must have been quite the mind blowing moment for u
[2023-04-27 21:11:45] gemeo2 : could program the ports and drive a little electric car
[2023-04-27 21:11:48] gaferreira : watching your code do things
[2023-04-27 21:11:53] Dario2 : gemeo2: very nice mate
[2023-04-27 21:12:50] gemeo2 : the good old days. I gonna teach my boys not to be morons 😆
[2023-04-27 21:13:03] Dario2 : 😅
[2023-04-27 21:13:45] Dario2 : gemeo2: You remember commodor 64?
[2023-04-27 21:13:55] gemeo2 : I had one!!!!!
[2023-04-27 21:14:02] gemeo2 : gamer
[2023-04-27 21:14:06] gaferreira : gentlement
[2023-04-27 21:14:14] gemeo2 : 😂
[2023-04-27 21:14:15] gaferreira : pls pump this shid
[2023-04-27 21:14:18] gaferreira : thanks
[2023-04-27 21:14:23] gaferreira : BUY MORE
[2023-04-27 21:15:07] gemeo2 : Dario2: got one after the Dragon32.... 64 wow big numbers
[2023-04-27 21:15:16] gemeo2 : hilarious
[2023-04-27 21:15:42] gemeo2 : was almost 45minutes to load some of the games
[2023-04-27 21:16:35] gemeo2 : after that took a rest cos I discovered girls kkks
[2023-04-27 21:16:38] Dario2 : gemeo2: Nice mate. It was my first PC. I still remember my first time I turned it on, putting the cassette inside it and watch a picture of Madonna on the screen
[2023-04-27 21:16:51] Dario2 : Will never forget that moment
[2023-04-27 21:16:57] Dario2 : full of joy
[2023-04-27 21:17:02] SangFrais : Dario2: @gemeo2 lol i was raised with a commodore 64 but im only 30 y/o got it from my brother
[2023-04-27 21:17:04] gemeo2 : 😍
[2023-04-27 21:17:16] gaferreira : gemeo2: LOLLL nice ending
[2023-04-27 21:17:16] SangFrais : atari too
[2023-04-27 21:17:27] gemeo2 : Cripes a relic bro
[2023-04-27 21:17:39] Dario2 : SangFrais: Loved playing Atari 2600 the jet fighter game for got its name
[2023-04-27 21:17:47] Dario2 : forgot*
[2023-04-27 21:18:51] SangFrais : yeah commodore 64 was great though all those fighting/adventure games were next level
[2023-04-27 21:19:17] SangFrais : amiga too especially
[2023-04-27 21:19:32] gemeo2 : broke the bank and shelled out 1400 quid for a 386DX, that was when things were for grown ups, Uni dayz
[2023-04-27 21:19:46] gemeo2 : think that was 1993
[2023-04-27 21:19:56] gemeo2 : nope 1990
[2023-04-27 21:19:59] gemeo2 : or 91
[2023-04-27 21:20:29] gemeo2 : 1993 had Sun Microsystems with 3D glasses for molecular modelling at work
[2023-04-27 21:20:47] gemeo2 : perhaps more like end of 94
[2023-04-27 21:20:54] gaferreira : gemeo2: woah 3d? crazy
[2023-04-27 21:21:12] gemeo2 : Did a PhD
[2023-04-27 21:21:19] gemeo2 : was a real gook
[2023-04-27 21:21:22] gemeo2 : geek
[2023-04-27 21:22:18] Dario2 : So we should call you Dr.Gemeo
[2023-04-27 21:22:18] gemeo2 : they were liquid crystal specs, I felt real important wearin em, they worked too but couldn't wear em for long, they synced with the monitor
[2023-04-27 21:22:53] gemeo2 : Yes Dr Gemeo Degen Gambler
[2023-04-27 21:23:22] Dario2 : lol nah you are modest. you are one of the best traders here
[2023-04-27 21:23:53] Dario2 : I should also be called Dr.Dario cos also did a PhD
[2023-04-27 21:24:02] gemeo2 : thanks for the compliment but that's a scarey thought lol
[2023-04-27 21:24:22] gemeo2 : Dario2: good for you bro, congrats
[2023-04-27 21:24:26] Dario2 : gemeo2: not a compliment mate only stating the facts
[2023-04-27 21:24:38] Dario2 : gemeo2: Thanks bro
[2023-04-27 21:25:20] CarlosM : some1 got some TA to share for a leecher?
[2023-04-27 21:25:31] gemeo2 : Dario2: it isn't easy to complete one, pulling it all together in the final year or so, a lot of hours but it's worth it. What did you study?
[2023-04-27 21:26:04] gemeo2 : CarlosM: to be honest, chart is a mess, am wingin it
[2023-04-27 21:26:21] CarlosM : gemeo2: so its not me not seeing something?
[2023-04-27 21:26:28] gaferreira : damn all the Drs here :P
[2023-04-27 21:26:35] gaferreira : i'm only a master :kek:
[2023-04-27 21:26:35] Fuun : still alone, kids?
[2023-04-27 21:26:40] Fuun : or is it again?
[2023-04-27 21:27:14] CarlosM : under 29500 i would maybe short
[2023-04-27 21:27:27] Dario2 : gemeo2: true mate. here they sign a contract and even pay you. it was around 2400 euro per month back 12 years ago or so. Did a specialization in particle physics, subatomic and high energy physics
[2023-04-27 21:27:28] gemeo2 : CarlosM: I'd like to think we had a simple pullback ABC from the highs and now we head on up but think that wishful thinking
[2023-04-27 21:27:37] gaferreira : CarlosM: just long
[2023-04-27 21:27:50] CarlosM : gaferreira: long is wrong
[2023-04-27 21:28:22] Dario2 : gemeo2: but we were mostly coding simulations for our experiments. That's where I learned low level programming languages like C++, Java etc
[2023-04-27 21:29:09] SangFrais : Dario2: sick
[2023-04-27 21:29:27] Dario2 : gemeo2: the same goes for PhD in astronomy. People think they look at the stars all night long, but in reality they just code programs
[2023-04-27 21:29:31] Dario2 : and run simulations
[2023-04-27 21:30:08] SangFrais : Dario2: most people dont know the difference between astrology and astronomy lol
[2023-04-27 21:30:36] Fuun : smart.
[2023-04-27 21:30:49] Fuun : u must be dutch.
[2023-04-27 21:30:54] gemeo2 : Dario2: cool 😎 rocket scientist shet. I also studied Physics but did X-ray diffraction studies of muscle, some electron microscopy too, built some hardware for beamtime at synchrotrons at Daresbury in the UK and at Euorpean Synchrotron in Gneneva ESRF
[2023-04-27 21:31:27] Dario2 : SangFrais: true unfortunately. Remember watching Carl Sagan saying the exact same thing decades ago and it hasn't change much ever since
[2023-04-27 21:32:09] gaferreira : hm cool stuff
[2023-04-27 21:32:14] gaferreira : can i ask politely
[2023-04-27 21:32:17] gemeo2 : Dario2: and accelerator events are viewed in real time remotely aren't they, would imagine Astronomy ditto ?
[2023-04-27 21:32:23] gaferreira : what do you guys think black holes really are
[2023-04-27 21:32:27] Fuun : u still killing theFuunbox, kids.
[2023-04-27 21:32:33] Fuun : 2.2k users.
[2023-04-27 21:32:36] Fuun : sad.
[2023-04-27 21:32:37] gemeo2 : gaferreira: gateways
[2023-04-27 21:32:49] Fuun : and the same 2-3 kids are talkin.
[2023-04-27 21:32:54] ointerMC : gaferreira: alien teleportation hubs ser
[2023-04-27 21:33:12] gaferreira : oh wait even better
[2023-04-27 21:33:23] SangFrais : ointerMC: reapers incoming?
[2023-04-27 21:33:33] gemeo2 : space folds in on itself, perhaps exits at white holes
[2023-04-27 21:33:33] gaferreira : what do u guys think the phenomenon that is currently explained by "dark matter" is
[2023-04-27 21:33:35] ointerMC : SangFrais: :pepe: who knows
[2023-04-27 21:33:43] ointerMC : maybe they're already here
[2023-04-27 21:33:52] gaferreira : gemeo2: true
[2023-04-27 21:34:10] gemeo2 : gaferreira: there's a lot of cold material out there, debris
[2023-04-27 21:34:14] SangFrais : ointerMC: lol yeah and elon musk is the illusive man
[2023-04-27 21:34:21] Dario2 : gemeo2: That's very nice bro. I have been working in Hamburg and Geneva too. 100 meters below the ground level and yes approximately 10K scientist work at CERN near Geneva from distance. I was there to test our particle detector for ALICE.
[2023-04-27 21:35:31] gemeo2 : Dario2: great to hear all this, just fantastic that science is alive and oh so real. CERN is the most advanced machine on earth
[2023-04-27 21:35:49] Fuun : is one of u guys moving anything?
[2023-04-27 21:35:52] SangFrais : yeah sick im also fascinated by the particle accelerator there
[2023-04-27 21:36:05] Fuun : or just for the tech here?
[2023-04-27 21:36:07] Dario2 : gemeo2: yeah the most expensive, complex and advanced experiment in human history
[2023-04-27 21:36:15] Fuun : must be the tech.
[2023-04-27 21:36:25] gemeo2 : I gonna take my kids to Portugal for school next years cos they got brains and here people got their sights set low
[2023-04-27 21:36:41] Pulsar : bullish
[2023-04-27 21:36:55] gemeo2 : I want them to have opportunity like I had
[2023-04-27 21:37:16] ointerMC : gemeo2: ser take them to canada, canada #1
[2023-04-27 21:37:32] ointerMC : we have enough maple syrup to survive any storm
[2023-04-27 21:37:46] gaferreira : gemeo2: huh
[2023-04-27 21:37:54] gaferreira : are u ptguese too?
[2023-04-27 21:37:57] gemeo2 : ointerMC: am resident in Portugal. They actually Brazilian and Dutch but Holland too wet n cold!
[2023-04-27 21:38:12] gaferreira : oh
[2023-04-27 21:38:25] gaferreira : well, bem vindo caralho
[2023-04-27 21:38:28] gaferreira : :kek:
[2023-04-27 21:38:29] ointerMC : gemeo2: we have 55 million pounds of maple syrup ser
[2023-04-27 21:38:43] gaferreira : ointerMC: ah yes, the world's favourite cartel
[2023-04-27 21:38:46] gemeo2 : the mother holds Dutch passport, Grandpa Aart grows a million pineapples here in Bahia 😝
[2023-04-27 21:38:48] ointerMC : foreign students have to pay a shit load for school tho
[2023-04-27 21:39:15] gaferreira : hit me up when u come here @gemeo2
[2023-04-27 21:39:29] gemeo2 : gaferreira: where you at bro?
[2023-04-27 21:39:34] gaferreira : porto
[2023-04-27 21:40:01] gemeo2 : O melhor de todas!
[2023-04-27 21:40:18] gaferreira : sempre amigo
[2023-04-27 21:40:24] gemeo2 : gaferreira: In fact, we thinkin Porto, the French school there
[2023-04-27 21:40:34] gaferreira : colegio luso frances?
[2023-04-27 21:40:38] Dario2 : gemeo2: but we need more powerful accelerators which take years to build and politicians are always hesitant to invest more. If we manage to discover dark matter/energy then one day we could build an accelerator for humans instead of particles and have them time travel inside it. Imagine going there in let's say 2050 and come out of it a few months later, but all the other people outside are decades older
[2023-04-27 21:41:20] gaferreira : i had an old friend there, i think its cool
[2023-04-27 21:41:25] gaferreira : Dario2: oh cmon mate
[2023-04-27 21:41:30] gaferreira : dark matter doesnt exist
[2023-04-27 21:41:53] gemeo2 : gaferreira: could be but think it is Lycée Français
[2023-04-27 21:42:02] gemeo2 : seems the best one
[2023-04-27 21:42:16] gaferreira : hm ok
[2023-04-27 21:42:39] gemeo2 : Dario2: that is truly SciFi
[2023-04-27 21:42:47] gaferreira : sure, private institutions are mostly the "liceu", "externato", "colégio", they're mostly good
[2023-04-27 21:43:47] Dario2 : gemeo2: It's theoretically possible and not violating any laws of physics. Particles are time traveling there right now.
[2023-04-27 21:43:53] gemeo2 : gaferreira: https://www.lfip.pt/fr
[2023-04-27 21:45:14] gaferreira : Dario2: sir lets be real here
[2023-04-27 21:45:21] gaferreira : why insist so much in particles
[2023-04-27 21:45:30] Dario2 : gemeo2: The faster you travel, the slower your time will pass. That's according to Relativity theory. Satellites also use this theory to calculate your GPS position
[2023-04-27 21:45:36] gemeo2 : Dario2: in theory but practice is another thing altogether. Think pitchin clean energy solutions like fusion would get funding!!
[2023-04-27 21:45:40] gaferreira : why not, unifying quantum and classical physics for example
[2023-04-27 21:46:00] gaferreira : that'd be far more important
[2023-04-27 21:46:47] gemeo2 : Bitcoin looks dead on its feet, off oot for dinner. Back soon
[2023-04-27 21:46:50] Dario2 : gaferreira: I don't care about the particles and yes I agree with you on that
[2023-04-27 21:47:45] gaferreira : gemeo2: yep i saw the website. Dont know it but looks good
[2023-04-27 21:48:01] gemeo2 : gaferreira: 👍
[2023-04-27 21:48:10] gaferreira : when are you coming?
[2023-04-27 21:48:21] gaferreira : do you even live here? :P i didnt quite understand
[2023-04-27 21:49:01] Dario2 : gemeo2: mate astronomers are already time traveling and it's a proven fact. They even had atomic clocks to check this theory and it was proven in practice
[2023-04-27 21:49:07] Dario2 : read about it if you don't believe me
[2023-04-27 21:49:40] gaferreira : Dario2: hm
[2023-04-27 21:49:51] gaferreira : did it work both ways? future and past?
[2023-04-27 21:49:57] gemeo2 : gaferreira: we thinkin next year. I lived in Lisbon and the Algarve before, I know almost all of Portugal. I like Porto and the north the most
[2023-04-27 21:49:57] ointerMC : Dario2: you mean looking back in time because the light that reaches us is old right?
[2023-04-27 21:50:15] gaferreira : gemeo2: ugh, algarve and lisbon suck unfortunately
[2023-04-27 21:50:35] gaferreira : yes in the north you meet nice people and eat unbelievably good food
[2023-04-27 21:51:46] Dario2 : gaferreira: Well, according to the Relativity theory, if you travel below the speed of light, the faster you go the slower your time will pass. Let's say you have two people the same age. One stays on this plant and the other travels travels to let's say alpha centauri at a speed close to light
[2023-04-27 21:52:00] gemeo2 : Dario2: we speak again soon. When you say Astronomers are time travelling already, it makes me think ...
[2023-04-27 21:52:03] Dario2 : When he comes back time has passed 10K tears on earth be he has only aged a decade or so
[2023-04-27 21:52:11] Dario2 : You can find the exact formula on wiki
[2023-04-27 21:52:50] Dario2 : If you go faster than the speed ofl ight, then you can travel back in time and you get all kind of funny paradoxes. That's why Einstein set a limit in his Relativity theory. Nothing can travel faster than light
[2023-04-27 21:53:10] gaferreira : ah i see
[2023-04-27 21:53:16] gaferreira : the c constant
[2023-04-27 21:53:38] Dario2 : gemeo2: See you later mate. Have a great day
[2023-04-27 21:53:40] gaferreira : well that's one way to define time yes, in relative terms
[2023-04-27 21:53:56] gaferreira : i dont like it tho, makes it seem time is only relative
[2023-04-27 21:55:41] Dario2 : gaferreira: The same with Gravitational fields. The stronger the field, the slower time will pass
[2023-04-27 21:56:40] gaferreira : gemeo2: see u later :)
[2023-04-27 21:56:50] gaferreira : Dario2: hm yes
[2023-04-27 21:57:08] SangFrais : Dario2: yeah too bad there was only one film that showed that well
[2023-04-27 21:57:13] Dario2 : Of course time is relative. time is just an emergent phenomena. For observers outside this universe it's constant/static but for observers inside it's changing
[2023-04-27 21:57:14] gaferreira : matter, gravitation, time
[2023-04-27 21:57:26] gaferreira : since im electronics enginner i prefer the interpretation of tesla and dirac tho
[2023-04-27 21:57:37] Dario2 : SangFrais: which film was that?
[2023-04-27 21:57:58] SangFrais : Dario2: interstellar
[2023-04-27 21:58:03] gaferreira : i think it's all frequencies and filters
[2023-04-27 21:58:38] Dario2 : gaferreira: Love Tesla. He was a real genius. But when you get to quantum physics things get even weirder. You find out that everything is an illusion. Time, space and matter itself are all illusions
[2023-04-27 21:58:52] ointerMC : Dario2: @gaferreira yall should watch interstellar if you havent seen it
[2023-04-27 21:59:01] ointerMC : one of my favs
[2023-04-27 21:59:07] gaferreira : ointerMC: i have
[2023-04-27 21:59:11] ointerMC : :doge:
[2023-04-27 21:59:16] gaferreira : crazy movie, very intense too
[2023-04-27 21:59:25] gaferreira : on the big screen was amazing
[2023-04-27 21:59:34] gaferreira : too short maybe xd
[2023-04-27 21:59:39] ointerMC : gaferreira: ye I saw it when it come out in theatre
[2023-04-27 21:59:43] SangFrais : ive watched interstellar a couple times and id still pay to see it in a cinema
[2023-04-27 21:59:45] Dario2 : SangFrais: @ointerMC will watch it thank you for recommending
[2023-04-27 21:59:48] ointerMC : got made fun of for tearing up :pepe:
[2023-04-27 21:59:53] Gjergj : $44444
[2023-04-27 21:59:56] Gjergj : its programmed
[2023-04-27 22:00:03] Gjergj : before $24420
[2023-04-27 22:00:10] gaferreira : Dario2: yes, but when you start going really deep, the "nothing making sense" of quantum world starts making sense
[2023-04-27 22:00:41] gaferreira : hence why i asked u before, what do u think is happening, that we explain by "dark matter" even tho nobody has found it yet
[2023-04-27 22:01:42] Pilipili : 💃💃💃💃💃💃💃💃💃💃💃💃💃💃💃💃💃💃💃💃💃💃💃💃💃💃💃💃💃💃💃💃💃💃💃💃💃💃💃💃💃💃💃💃💃💃💃💃💃💃💃
[2023-04-27 22:02:32] SangFrais : Dario2: let us know what you think about the movie, you know, as a physicist
[2023-04-27 22:02:40] Dario2 : gaferreira: mate it should exist because without it we can't explain the behaviour of stars and galaxies
[2023-04-27 22:03:12] gaferreira : oh cmon yes u can
[2023-04-27 22:03:16] ointerMC : Dario2: you're a phycisist? fan of the big bang theory tv show then?
[2023-04-27 22:03:21] gaferreira : are physicists that close minded?
[2023-04-27 22:03:33] gaferreira : ointerMC: lol
[2023-04-27 22:03:44] Dario2 : SangFrais: will do bro
[2023-04-27 22:04:04] Dario2 : ointerMC: loved it. made fun of us. as if we all are geeks or nerds but that's nor really true
[2023-04-27 22:04:16] Dario2 : not*
[2023-04-27 22:04:28] ointerMC : Dario2: first few seasons were alright lol
[2023-04-27 22:04:44] SangFrais : geeks and nerds are mostly in advanced mathematics
[2023-04-27 22:04:55] gaferreira : and computer science
[2023-04-27 22:04:56] SangFrais : and im talking about the severe autistic types
[2023-04-27 22:05:01] ointerMC : gaferreira: ye
[2023-04-27 22:06:18] SangFrais : maybe not severe autistic because those people realy need help with day to day life but on the border
[2023-04-27 22:06:42] gaferreira : yes just the weirdest ppl
[2023-04-27 22:06:46] Dario2 : ointerMC: lol yeah I watched all the seasons. I agree
[2023-04-27 22:07:05] Pilipili : i bring all theses gurls an no compliments
[2023-04-27 22:07:09] Rectile the reptile : are you studying bullrun science?
[2023-04-27 22:07:24] gaferreira : Pilipili: lol
[2023-04-27 22:09:55] ointerMC : Devs is a pretty good TV show about an AI being developed btw
[2023-04-27 22:10:33] Rectile the reptile : are you going to bullrun club every sunday?
[2023-04-27 22:12:21] Dario2 : gaferreira: mate when we look at the observable universe we can only understand 20% of the matter in galaxies but we have no clue what the other 80% is made up. It's like the gravity, you can't see it but you know it must be there, because math says so. Could be anything but certainly not the particles in the standard model of particle physics, anti-matter and virtual particles included. Can you explain what these mysterious stuff are? You will win a noble price if you can.
[2023-04-27 22:12:42] Dario2 : prize*
[2023-04-27 22:12:46] gaferreira : well for a starter
[2023-04-27 22:12:48] gaferreira : its not matter
[2023-04-27 22:13:12] gaferreira : so the problem iss, mass is moving as if it were lighter yeah?
[2023-04-27 22:13:20] Dario2 : gaferreira: How would you know? Could be matter in additional dimensions
[2023-04-27 22:13:35] gaferreira : and the solution scientists proposed is, there must be hidden mass
[2023-04-27 22:13:50] ointerMC : Dario2: maybe its matter without protons? I know nothing about science tho
[2023-04-27 22:14:02] Rectile the reptile : :arthur:
[2023-04-27 22:14:09] gaferreira : Dario2: that doesnt conform to reailty
[2023-04-27 22:14:18] gaferreira : reality is through our own senses
[2023-04-27 22:14:29] Rectile the reptile : bullrun science
[2023-04-27 22:14:30] gaferreira : if we see it, it exists in our dimension
[2023-04-27 22:14:51] gaferreira : its not matter
[2023-04-27 22:15:00] Dario2 : ointerMC: could be. no one knows mate
[2023-04-27 22:15:12] gaferreira : galaxies are a vortex of plasma
[2023-04-27 22:15:13] Rectile the reptile : according to multiple lord :arthur: we live in a multitude of dimension
[2023-04-27 22:15:25] gaferreira : its all electric and magnetic fields
[2023-04-27 22:15:31] gaferreira : that's all
[2023-04-27 22:16:03] Dario2 : gaferreira: you have nice theories bro. you should come up with experiments to test them one by one
[2023-04-27 22:16:28] Rectile the reptile : maybe you invent a bullrun in dont know 50 years?
[2023-04-27 22:16:32] Dario2 : If we find what dark energy/matter is we can even travel faster than light
[2023-04-27 22:16:41] gaferreira : well hopefully soon the scientists working with plasma will soon find it out
[2023-04-27 22:16:46] ointerMC : Dario2: why do you say that?
[2023-04-27 22:16:49] Dario2 : without violating the speed limit as set by Einstein in his relativity theory
[2023-04-27 22:16:51] gaferreira : those trying to find fusion energy
[2023-04-27 22:17:00] gaferreira : Dario2: yes true
[2023-04-27 22:17:22] gaferreira : mass can not move faster than light
[2023-04-27 22:17:26] gaferreira : but information can
[2023-04-27 22:17:40] gaferreira : i guess that's what matters
[2023-04-27 22:17:47] The Emerging Bull : hello
[2023-04-27 22:17:55] The Emerging Bull : Amazon lost it's 10% gaons
[2023-04-27 22:17:57] The Emerging Bull : gains
[2023-04-27 22:18:00] SangFrais : Dario2: the research into that should receive much more funding.. we could do a lot more with more research funding in that compared to all the money being pumped into building rockets for return trips to the atmosphere
[2023-04-27 22:18:14] gaferreira : SangFrais: yes, thank you
[2023-04-27 22:18:21] gaferreira : but there is some research on that
[2023-04-27 22:18:31] gaferreira : its the same thing as trying to find fusion energy
[2023-04-27 22:18:41] gaferreira : when they find one conclusion they will find the other
[2023-04-27 22:18:50] ointerMC : SangFrais: unfortunately space is becoming much more important to militaries :pepe:
[2023-04-27 22:19:03] Rectile the reptile : fusion energy is coming :downrocket:
[2023-04-27 22:19:15] gaferreira : i mean, when they figure out fusion energy, they will also figure out dark matter, time travel, etc
[2023-04-27 22:19:36] Rectile the reptile : space Mc Donalds
[2023-04-27 22:19:41] gaferreira : ass toroids
[2023-04-27 22:20:12] Rectile the reptile : Space cow farms
[2023-04-27 22:20:18] ointerMC : Rectile the reptile: omg, if airplane food tastes better because of altitude, imagine space food :o
[2023-04-27 22:20:18] SangFrais : yeah space will become commercialized before we figure out anything groundbreaking about the science we already know
[2023-04-27 22:21:57] Dario2 : ointerMC: Theoretically there is a way to contract the space in front of a spaceship and expand it behind it. This way we can even travel faster than light but it requires a lot of energy which we can only access by discovering negative energy/dark energy or exotic matter. The same way a plant or a star is curving the space-time, we will be able to curve it one day. I would argue that those UFO's, if real, do the same as above
[2023-04-27 22:22:31] ointerMC : Dario2: damn dope, thanks for sharing
[2023-04-27 22:22:32] Rectile the reptile : :arthur:
[2023-04-27 22:23:12] gemeo2 : Dario2: Ai is the way forward, humans have reached their limit
[2023-04-27 22:23:30] Dario2 : ointerMC: This is based on a scientific paper by professor Alcubierre and Nasa recenly started investigating it. I think Dr. White is leading the project
[2023-04-27 22:23:42] Rectile the reptile : gemeo2: since 500 years
[2023-04-27 22:23:43] ointerMC : Dario2: u got a link?
[2023-04-27 22:23:50] gemeo2 : technology and science will move forward rapidly
[2023-04-27 22:24:10] Rectile the reptile : gemeo2: and governemtns move them backwards
[2023-04-27 22:24:14] Dario2 : I am sure if you google it will come up. there are even documentaries on youtube about this. Search for Alcubierre drive
[2023-04-27 22:24:31] ointerMC : ty
[2023-04-27 22:24:34] gemeo2 : Rectile the reptile: so true, the world full of dumbies