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BitMEX disabled their archive after the DDOS attack so I have decided to make my mirror publicly available.

Well now, a few days after I made this mirror available to the public, the original archive from BitMEX is online again.
But since it is still limited (neutered to the last few hundred messages) I will keep my FULL mirror alive.

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[2023-04-11 03:30:55] bmagic : more power, more energy
[2023-04-11 03:31:10] Doge X : 30 k bichezzzzz :doge:
[2023-04-11 03:31:24] Doge X : :doge:
[2023-04-11 03:31:24] HuskySquared : /pnl xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: 19.6650 XBT RPNL, 72.1954 XBT UPNL ```
[2023-04-11 03:32:22] Fuun : probably the same useless kids, right?
[2023-04-11 03:32:29] Doge X : HuskySquared: u taking me out for dinner :doge:🤣👌🏼😘
[2023-04-11 03:32:42] Fuun : theFuunbox is dead, u useless tools.
[2023-04-11 03:32:45] Fuun : :joy:
[2023-04-11 03:36:38] LittleBuck : btc gonna moooon
[2023-04-11 03:40:09] bluemaster : https://twitter.com/manuferraritano/status/1645628179950731265
[2023-04-11 03:40:14] HuskySquared : lol
[2023-04-11 03:40:23] HuskySquared : /competition rank ``` :bitmex: HuskySquared rank: 25 ```
[2023-04-11 03:45:58] MrBritcoin : we gota fill some gaps soon
[2023-04-11 03:46:02] bmagic : who is selling at 29k to allow this move lol
[2023-04-11 03:46:38] bmagic : maybe no-one which is why it's taken days to make it happen
[2023-04-11 03:52:19] MrBritcoin : top 6news articals bullish way to much bulla for my likings
[2023-04-11 03:52:47] MrBritcoin : fomo @its best
[2023-04-11 03:52:58] HuskySquared : BitMEX is a P2P crypto-products trading platform.BitMEX and the mobile apps issued under BMEX are wholly owned and operated by HDR Global Trading Limited, a Republic of Seychelles incorporated entity or its relevant authorised affiliates.Trading in cryptocurrency derivatives involves significant risks. Please consider whether using BitMEX is appropriate for you.US Persons are prohibited from accessing the services of the BitMEX trading platform.Cryptocurrency charts by TradingView.
[2023-04-11 03:53:01] HuskySquared : lol
[2023-04-11 03:53:04] HuskySquared : bitmex new bottom text
[2023-04-11 03:53:15] HuskySquared : Trading in cryptocurrency derivatives involves significant risks.
[2023-04-11 03:53:21] HuskySquared : or was that always there and i just didnt see it
[2023-04-11 03:53:57] HuskySquared : BitMEX_pez:
[2023-04-11 03:54:08] HuskySquared : Please consider whether using BitMEX is appropriate for you.
[2023-04-11 03:54:44] HuskySquared : BitMEX_pez: the new warning texts of using it disturbs the UI
[2023-04-11 03:55:23] MrBritcoin : an in my history of pattern pulling braking out of a wedge top side has never ended well for corn
[2023-04-11 03:55:46] HuskySquared : i just got paid 204 bmex via staking
[2023-04-11 03:55:51] HuskySquared : nice
[2023-04-11 03:56:03] HuskySquared : thats 90 bucks
[2023-04-11 03:57:06] MrBritcoin : think how much you would of made if that was in corn as spot lol
[2023-04-11 03:57:12] HuskySquared : lol
[2023-04-11 03:57:14] Buckztr : https://www.tradingview.com/x/VD1SBhvQ 6hr top of 3 5900
[2023-04-11 03:57:49] Buckztr : top of 3 35.9k
[2023-04-11 03:58:03] HuskySquared : i selected the bottom footer
[2023-04-11 03:58:05] HuskySquared : edit
[2023-04-11 03:58:07] HuskySquared : delete element
[2023-04-11 03:58:11] HuskySquared : thank god
[2023-04-11 03:58:22] MrBritcoin : HuskySquared: i can asure you it would of been more than 90 bucks
[2023-04-11 03:58:28] HuskySquared : MrBritcoin: but none of the swag
[2023-04-11 03:58:55] HuskySquared : MrBritcoin: dont worry though
[2023-04-11 03:58:57] HuskySquared : /pnl xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: 19.6650 XBT RPNL, 73.3506 XBT UPNL ```
[2023-04-11 03:59:25] HuskySquared : as you can probably tell
[2023-04-11 03:59:27] HuskySquared : bmex is pumping
[2023-04-11 03:59:30] MrBritcoin : nice one
[2023-04-11 04:00:03] Fuun : something wrong again, kids?
[2023-04-11 04:00:09] HuskySquared : weird new pnl thing gets ut in 0 minutes
[2023-04-11 04:00:10] HuskySquared : now lol
[2023-04-11 04:00:17] HuskySquared : inb4 all my positions get closed
[2023-04-11 04:00:19] HuskySquared : due to bug
[2023-04-11 04:00:21] HuskySquared : hahahaha!
[2023-04-11 04:00:22] HuskySquared : :P
[2023-04-11 04:01:10] Fuun : control your emotions, kid. :joy:
[2023-04-11 04:01:21] The Beast : it feels so good after deleting footer. YES
[2023-04-11 04:01:23] Fuun : u missed it maybe, theFuunbox is dead.
[2023-04-11 04:01:32] MrBritcoin : you might wana bag some profit mang fact
[2023-04-11 04:01:32] Fuun : u are still alone with us.
[2023-04-11 04:01:40] Fuun : and we dont talk much.
[2023-04-11 04:02:08] Fuun : activate the other tools, for a bit of traffic.
[2023-04-11 04:02:29] MrBritcoin : Fuun: talk is cheep frenemy
[2023-04-11 04:02:32] bmagic : Husky doesn't have a Sell/Short button activated on his account. He requested it to be deactivated.
[2023-04-11 04:02:50] MrBritcoin : https://prnt.sc/MfgK34kgopif
[2023-04-11 04:02:51] HuskySquared : Bitcoin tops $30,000 for the first time since June ahead of inflation data
[2023-04-11 04:03:04] bmagic : key word "tops"
[2023-04-11 04:03:10] HuskySquared : lol
[2023-04-11 04:03:52] HuskySquared : lol china inflation actually went down -0.3
[2023-04-11 04:04:01] HuskySquared : MoM
[2023-04-11 04:04:04] MrBritcoin : its all a wash cycles
[2023-04-11 04:04:16] MrBritcoin : https://prnt.sc/4Q-J-_eFp0ur
[2023-04-11 04:04:19] dumbcontract : why my upnl moved to rpnl, i didnt do anything
[2023-04-11 04:04:56] MrBritcoin : the joys of trading at mex
[2023-04-11 04:05:03] HuskySquared : dumbcontract: position is still open though or
[2023-04-11 04:05:19] bmagic : dumbcontract: its the new feature of Bitmex
[2023-04-11 04:05:24] HuskySquared : wait wait wait
[2023-04-11 04:05:25] dumbcontract : its open
[2023-04-11 04:05:26] HuskySquared : are you telling me
[2023-04-11 04:05:28] HuskySquared : i can long
[2023-04-11 04:05:30] HuskySquared : with my upnl?
[2023-04-11 04:05:33] bmagic : automatically realises unrealised profit
[2023-04-11 04:05:34] HuskySquared : and buy bmex with my upnl
[2023-04-11 04:05:38] HuskySquared : wihtout closing position?
[2023-04-11 04:05:39] dumbcontract : yea seems so
[2023-04-11 04:05:41] bmagic : so you can add to your existing position
[2023-04-11 04:05:41] HuskySquared : i just won the competition
[2023-04-11 04:05:51] HuskySquared : give it 5
[2023-04-11 04:05:52] bmagic : yeah they announced it 2 weeks ago
[2023-04-11 04:06:01] HuskySquared : thats a pretty sick feature actually or
[2023-04-11 04:06:11] bmagic : soft trading
[2023-04-11 04:06:12] HuskySquared : if it doesnt somehow fuck me over
[2023-04-11 04:06:18] dumbcontract : i just wonder what triggers this
[2023-04-11 04:06:24] HuskySquared : no idea
[2023-04-11 04:06:24] MrBritcoin : asking for trouble
[2023-04-11 04:06:27] HuskySquared : it didnt happen to me yet
[2023-04-11 04:06:27] bmagic : being in profit triggers it
[2023-04-11 04:06:29] bmagic : lol
[2023-04-11 04:06:46] HuskySquared : so maybe im missing something
[2023-04-11 04:06:54] bmagic : https://blog.bitmex.com/pnl-realisation-cross-margining/
[2023-04-11 04:06:57] MrBritcoin : dumbcontract: its a glitch do nothing with it
[2023-04-11 04:07:01] HuskySquared : bmagic: it was a lot of text that i didnt understand
[2023-04-11 04:07:22] HuskySquared : but if you tell me now that i can basically long mor with the 73 upnl?
[2023-04-11 04:07:23] HuskySquared : INSHALLAH
[2023-04-11 04:07:28] dumbcontract : MrBritcoin: its too elaborate for a glitch tbh
[2023-04-11 04:07:37] bmagic : It’s a process that will happen automatically every 10 minutes*.
[2023-04-11 04:07:44] HuskySquared : bmagic: so it will happen to me in 3 minutes?
[2023-04-11 04:07:51] HuskySquared : HANDS IN THE AIR
[2023-04-11 04:08:00] HuskySquared : nah let me get some prayer books or smth
[2023-04-11 04:08:02] MrBritcoin : dumbcontract: 😏its a set up
[2023-04-11 04:08:03] HuskySquared : that this does not in 2 minutes
[2023-04-11 04:08:04] bmagic : In the event that a particular position has incurred unrealised losses – which is checked every time the Mark Price changes – its position margin will be topped up from the available margin when required. In other words, profits are transferred from Unrealised PnL to Realised PnL using the Mark Price.
[2023-04-11 04:08:05] HuskySquared : somehow annihilate me
[2023-04-11 04:08:16] bmagic : double edged sword i guess
[2023-04-11 04:08:26] HuskySquared : bmagic: i dont understand it
[2023-04-11 04:08:35] HuskySquared : is this good or bad for my cross position
[2023-04-11 04:08:39] dumbcontract : MrBritcoin: i think bitmex did that so i cant isolate my profites from a losing position
[2023-04-11 04:08:46] HuskySquared : dumbcontract: lol
[2023-04-11 04:09:15] HuskySquared : lmao
[2023-04-11 04:09:16] dumbcontract : they just make sure that if you rekt they get all of your depo
[2023-04-11 04:09:16] HuskySquared : it just happened
[2023-04-11 04:09:19] HuskySquared : /rpnl xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: 92.8919 XBT RPNL ```
[2023-04-11 04:09:23] HuskySquared : XD
[2023-04-11 04:09:24] MrBritcoin : dumbcontract: no they want you spending what you aint banked
[2023-04-11 04:09:32] bmagic : its basically offering neutrality on unrealised pnl so that you can improve have position size limited to your current position level. Basically it only gives degens the ability to go all in for better or worse
[2023-04-11 04:09:33] marsin123 : Wauw
[2023-04-11 04:09:40] MrBritcoin : then death candle
[2023-04-11 04:09:42] HuskySquared : i think pez didnt expect this one to happen
[2023-04-11 04:09:46] HuskySquared : /competition ladder ``` :bitmex: Easter Competition ladder: 1) success0.1: 648.8778 2) Odomz: 605.2916 3) EconomicCrisis: 456.4862 4) Castle904: 396.6435 5) LONGMUGO: 348.8227 6) GA..GO..HAE: 189.8024 7) hwacho: 167.1809 8) [][][]: 125.762 9) XXXL: 123.5001 10) Dusterr: 112.8433 ```
[2023-04-11 04:09:48] HuskySquared : soon
[2023-04-11 04:09:55] MrBritcoin : totaly rekt follows
[2023-04-11 04:10:07] HuskySquared : but lol nice so
[2023-04-11 04:10:09] HuskySquared : i can long more now
[2023-04-11 04:10:12] HuskySquared : with the upnl
[2023-04-11 04:10:13] bmagic : HuskySquared: it's good for good traders - bad for bad traders.
[2023-04-11 04:10:18] HuskySquared : /pnl xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: 92.8919 XBT RPNL, -0.2546 XBT UPNL ```
[2023-04-11 04:10:21] bmagic : no difference really
[2023-04-11 04:10:24] elChisoso : When degens realizes all their 5x positions turns 100x in a moment.
[2023-04-11 04:10:25] HuskySquared : plus it just probably
[2023-04-11 04:10:28] HuskySquared : made me win the competition
[2023-04-11 04:10:35] marsin123 : /pnl xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: 0.5162 XBT RPNL, -0.0007 XBT UPNL ```
[2023-04-11 04:10:39] dumbcontract : so bmex basically gives you money without you making a trade, pretty sweet actually
[2023-04-11 04:10:39] HuskySquared : marsin123: lol
[2023-04-11 04:10:50] HuskySquared : yea this is actually pretty interesting
[2023-04-11 04:11:05] HuskySquared : so i can now withdraw the 70btc without having to close the position?
[2023-04-11 04:11:08] marsin123 : Why is this
[2023-04-11 04:11:19] HuskySquared : wait a second
[2023-04-11 04:11:25] marsin123 : Is this good?
[2023-04-11 04:11:29] HuskySquared : i dont know
[2023-04-11 04:11:31] bmagic : dumbcontract: it's probably safer for the bitmex engine
[2023-04-11 04:11:33] HuskySquared : BitMEX_pez:
[2023-04-11 04:11:40] HuskySquared : bmagic: but what if i withdraw
[2023-04-11 04:11:43] MrBritcoin : dumbcontract: remember there is no such thing as a free lunch
[2023-04-11 04:11:51] MrBritcoin : unless your it
[2023-04-11 04:12:00] bmagic : HuskySquared: as long as your position is open its locked the allocation
[2023-04-11 04:12:04] marsin123 : /pnl ltcusd ``` :bitmex: LTCUSD: 0.3708 XBT RPNL, 0.0134 XBT UPNL ```
[2023-04-11 04:12:11] HuskySquared : bmagic: are you sure
[2023-04-11 04:12:15] MrBritcoin : lunch nom nom
[2023-04-11 04:12:16] HuskySquared : bmagic: it shows in available
[2023-04-11 04:12:33] elChisoso : So what happens if price reverses?
[2023-04-11 04:12:44] HuskySquared : elChisoso: rekt
[2023-04-11 04:12:48] marsin123 : /pnl ltcusdt ``` :bitmex: LTCUSDT: 13,926.99 USDT RPNL, 114.80 USDT UPNL ```
[2023-04-11 04:12:52] elChisoso : indeed, my guess to
[2023-04-11 04:12:53] bmagic : HuskySquared: you can withdraw anything available, but you're hurting your liquidation point.
[2023-04-11 04:12:58] HuskySquared : bmagic: interesting
[2023-04-11 04:13:01] HuskySquared : so i now have access
[2023-04-11 04:13:03] HuskySquared : to the upnl
[2023-04-11 04:13:07] HuskySquared : without actually having to close the position
[2023-04-11 04:13:12] HuskySquared : this is pretty sweet
[2023-04-11 04:13:14] bmagic : thats the premise of the blog
[2023-04-11 04:13:21] HuskySquared : and it actually means i can withdraw
[2023-04-11 04:13:28] HuskySquared : since my liq even at just maintenance
[2023-04-11 04:13:34] HuskySquared : wont be higher than my entry
[2023-04-11 04:13:46] HuskySquared : i like this
[2023-04-11 04:14:04] HuskySquared : brb buying bmex with it
[2023-04-11 04:14:29] bmagic : i need to read further to understand how it impacts the maintenance margin
[2023-04-11 04:15:02] LittleBuck : 3hr bully btc https://www.tradingview.com/x/Fq9dzeiz
[2023-04-11 04:15:27] MrBritcoin : HuskySquared: now your advertising company checks out lol
[2023-04-11 04:15:54] Fuun : is britney the only tool who got hurt again? :joy:
[2023-04-11 04:16:08] MrBritcoin : reading between the lines an all that
[2023-04-11 04:16:08] Fuun : delete your accounts, kid.
[2023-04-11 04:16:14] Fuun : its okay.
[2023-04-11 04:16:17] Fuun : :kek:
[2023-04-11 04:17:04] Fuun : the other tools still in artistic mode?
[2023-04-11 04:17:10] HuskySquared : i like this though tbh
[2023-04-11 04:17:16] HuskySquared : i think this is bullish for bmex
[2023-04-11 04:17:20] HuskySquared : and bitmex as a platform
[2023-04-11 04:17:22] MrBritcoin : Fuun: was up funn still on the books for bitmex
[2023-04-11 04:17:23] HuskySquared : its a pretty cool feature
[2023-04-11 04:17:35] HuskySquared : /competition ladder ``` :bitmex: Easter Competition ladder: 1) Castle904: 1859.8875 2) GA..GO..HAE: 1068.7735 3) XXXL: 1046.181 4) jado: 755.5625 5) success0.1: 659.7202 6) Odomz: 524.1321 7) EconomicCrisis: 454.9586 8) HuskySquared: 436.631 9) kkanddappiya: 357.2692 10) LONGMUGO: 346.5748 ```
[2023-04-11 04:17:39] HuskySquared : hm
[2023-04-11 04:17:41] HuskySquared : even with all realised
[2023-04-11 04:17:45] HuskySquared : im just top 8
[2023-04-11 04:17:46] HuskySquared : rekt
[2023-04-11 04:18:00] HuskySquared : pnl competitions tough
[2023-04-11 04:18:45] MrBritcoin : Fuun: you still playing with peoples personl computers ie there minds lol
[2023-04-11 04:18:47] marsin123 : Who the buck is Castle904
[2023-04-11 04:19:19] HuskySquared : adding some bmex
[2023-04-11 04:19:23] HuskySquared : because new feature is nice
[2023-04-11 04:19:44] marsin123 : Baanbrekend
[2023-04-11 04:20:19] HuskySquared : i think this feature
[2023-04-11 04:20:24] HuskySquared : really is sick for bitmex
[2023-04-11 04:20:29] MrBritcoin : marsin123: why you want to know
[2023-04-11 04:20:29] HuskySquared : binance doesnt have this or
[2023-04-11 04:21:33] marsin123 : HuskySquared: nothing has this, bmex gonna moon
[2023-04-11 04:21:37] MrBritcoin : does he have a bigger shlong then you
[2023-04-11 04:21:40] HuskySquared : marsin123: this is legit insane feature
[2023-04-11 04:21:45] MrBritcoin : lol
[2023-04-11 04:22:00] HuskySquared : added 10k bmex
[2023-04-11 04:22:19] Danishdude1 : /position xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: 42,900 USD @ 18879.1095 ```
[2023-04-11 04:22:25] HuskySquared : Danishdude1: nice one man
[2023-04-11 04:22:36] Danishdude1 : I had entry on 16,5 then added abit
[2023-04-11 04:22:39] marsin123 : Danishdude1: amazing
[2023-04-11 04:22:56] Danishdude1 : I got fucked for my life savings on celcius
[2023-04-11 04:23:04] HuskySquared : Danishdude1: its ok
[2023-04-11 04:23:04] Danishdude1 : Made a 5x from the rest i had left
[2023-04-11 04:23:10] Danishdude1 : Wish me luck
[2023-04-11 04:23:17] marsin123 : Good luck homie
[2023-04-11 04:23:28] marsin123 : Bucking celcius
[2023-04-11 04:23:32] HuskySquared : i wonder how many people will misunderstand
[2023-04-11 04:23:33] HuskySquared : the new feature
[2023-04-11 04:23:37] HuskySquared : and just immediately 100x the new available
[2023-04-11 04:23:39] HuskySquared : on some other contract
[2023-04-11 04:23:48] Fuun : delete the bug fixer and hire a dev.
[2023-04-11 04:24:02] HuskySquared : BitMEX_pez: new PNL feature is FIRE
[2023-04-11 04:24:06] Fuun : we come later back, kids.
[2023-04-11 04:24:15] Fuun : nobody is talkin to u. :joy:
[2023-04-11 04:26:17] bmagic : temp rug pull
[2023-04-11 04:26:52] MrBritcoin : https://youtu.be/F1GKM0zuf7U
[2023-04-11 04:29:40] Mr.IToldYou : Bnb 284 end of week
[2023-04-11 04:39:58] The_Reaper : @admin unrealized pnl bugged?
[2023-04-11 04:40:17] marsin123 : The_Reaper: new feature
[2023-04-11 04:40:39] TIMELICIOUS : /competition rank ``` :bitmex: TIMELICIOUS rank: 47 ```
[2023-04-11 04:40:56] marsin123 : /competition rank ``` :bitmex: marsin123 rank is unknown ```
[2023-04-11 04:40:57] The_Reaper : HuskySquared: shorted 30444 👀
[2023-04-11 04:41:17] The_Reaper : /competition rank ``` :bitmex: The_Reaper rank: 37 ```
[2023-04-11 04:43:26] snoopyfall : /competition rank ``` :bitmex: snoopyfall rank: 55 ```
[2023-04-11 04:44:15] moneyaddict : @admin I lost sats even though I closed in profit?
[2023-04-11 04:44:57] yyyu : I dont like new feature. Having good entry, and Next thing you know your entry iš latest price and you have a minus upnl :) oh well
[2023-04-11 04:45:26] elmo check : Unrealized pnl??
[2023-04-11 04:45:39] moneyaddict : Any mod here?
[2023-04-11 04:46:09] al guul : elmo check: You got it aswell ?!
[2023-04-11 04:46:35] al guul : reperations Arthur!
[2023-04-11 04:46:36] elmo check : al guul: yes pnl is doing funny things
[2023-04-11 04:46:59] elmo check : Not funny at all
[2023-04-11 04:47:10] al guul : elmo check: yeah, mine has "switched" places. But pos is still the same. lol
[2023-04-11 04:47:57] yyyu : Its good if you prediction iš correct būt if market turns against you. Good luck having latest price aš your entry. Strange concept
[2023-04-11 04:48:28] BBkkn : moneyaddict: @admin
[2023-04-11 04:48:46] SimioShort : that obsesion about fixing not broken stuff :imp:
[2023-04-11 04:48:46] elmo check : al guul: my profit position managed to become red while in profit
[2023-04-11 04:49:39] The_Reaper : @admin hello? We cannot close positions in profit or we lose the actual upnl
[2023-04-11 04:49:42] al guul : elmo check: mine too :) I now suddenly have negative unreaslised PNL with a ROE% of 846
[2023-04-11 04:50:00] elmo check : al guul: lol
[2023-04-11 04:50:38] elmo check : I sold a profit trade and managed to lose BTC lol
[2023-04-11 04:50:40] The_Reaper : Come on, i want to close this short in profit …
[2023-04-11 04:50:50] HuskySquared : The_Reaper: how you mean
[2023-04-11 04:50:55] HuskySquared : you can close it in profit
[2023-04-11 04:50:59] HuskySquared : or?
[2023-04-11 04:51:04] The_Reaper : HuskySquared: i shorted 30444, i wanna close it here
[2023-04-11 04:51:08] HuskySquared : yea
[2023-04-11 04:51:08] al guul : damn man @elmo check
[2023-04-11 04:51:11] HuskySquared : you can no?
[2023-04-11 04:51:31] elmo check : It's a bug
[2023-04-11 04:51:36] The_Reaper : HuskySquared: it says red upnl with 107%
[2023-04-11 04:51:36] HuskySquared : @admin
[2023-04-11 04:51:41] HuskySquared : The_Reaper: yea because
[2023-04-11 04:51:44] HuskySquared : of new PNL feature
[2023-04-11 04:51:47] The_Reaper : HuskySquared: pnl got updated, but upnl is at a loss
[2023-04-11 04:51:52] HuskySquared : yea because price changed
[2023-04-11 04:51:59] HuskySquared : its relative upnl no
[2023-04-11 04:52:08] HuskySquared : based on the last realisation
[2023-04-11 04:52:13] HuskySquared : so say you realised at 1k price
[2023-04-11 04:52:16] HuskySquared : 10btc
[2023-04-11 04:52:19] elmo check : Something is wrong here
[2023-04-11 04:52:20] HuskySquared : it goes down to 900 price
[2023-04-11 04:52:27] HuskySquared : then its upnl red
[2023-04-11 04:52:31] HuskySquared : because you already realised from 1k price
[2023-04-11 04:52:34] The_Reaper : HuskySquared: what new feature? I want to close this short in profit
[2023-04-11 04:52:36] HuskySquared : so if you close, that gets given back of course
[2023-04-11 04:52:38] HuskySquared : you can
[2023-04-11 04:52:43] HuskySquared : every 10 minute
[2023-04-11 04:52:44] al guul : def something wrong @HuskySquared
[2023-04-11 04:52:47] HuskySquared : cross position pnl is freed up
[2023-04-11 04:53:01] HuskySquared : https://blog.bitmex.com/site_announcement/now-live-a-new-pnl-realisation-feature-for-more-capital-efficient-cross-margining/
[2023-04-11 04:53:11] HuskySquared : i dont think its wrong
[2023-04-11 04:53:16] HuskySquared : like the red upnl makes sense
[2023-04-11 04:53:20] HuskySquared : since you realise on 10 minute frames
[2023-04-11 04:53:21] The_Reaper : Wtf …
[2023-04-11 04:53:22] BitMEX_Hans : hello frens
[2023-04-11 04:53:31] The_Reaper : revert that change come on
[2023-04-11 04:53:33] BitMEX_Hans : The_Reaper: do you think that's problematic?
[2023-04-11 04:53:38] HuskySquared : The_Reaper: its good change
[2023-04-11 04:53:56] HuskySquared : The_Reaper: your trade is still in profit
[2023-04-11 04:53:58] The_Reaper : BitMEX_Hans: people are losing btc when vlosing positions in profit, u think thats normal?
[2023-04-11 04:54:09] HuskySquared : no thats not what it is
[2023-04-11 04:54:25] HuskySquared : you arent losing btc when u close in profit, you have the realised due to the 10min realisation thing
[2023-04-11 04:54:32] The_Reaper : I got a positive pnl, but a negztive upnl with a short from 30444
[2023-04-11 04:54:33] HuskySquared : so its just the delta from that price vs the new one which might put u in green or red
[2023-04-11 04:54:34] HuskySquared : relatively
[2023-04-11 04:54:39] HuskySquared : The_Reaper: https://blog.bitmex.com/site_announcement/now-live-a-new-pnl-realisation-feature-for-more-capital-efficient-cross-margining/
[2023-04-11 04:54:51] HuskySquared : BitMEX_Hans: keep the feature no matter what anybody says lol it is lit
[2023-04-11 04:54:56] HuskySquared : it will make bmex go to $10
[2023-04-11 04:55:26] HuskySquared : The_Reaper: you already have access to the realised pnl sir
[2023-04-11 04:55:34] elChisoso : People never appreciate confusing updates, which is odd.
[2023-04-11 04:55:43] elmo check : HuskySquared: i am confused atm
[2023-04-11 04:55:53] AvaMei : /upnl xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: -0.0000 XBT UPNL ```
[2023-04-11 04:56:06] AvaMei : mhh upnl broke ?
[2023-04-11 04:56:08] moneyaddict : Please reverse the change
[2023-04-11 04:56:12] The_Reaper : HuskySquared: wait so, every 10pins that changed
[2023-04-11 04:56:13] BitMEX_Hans : HuskySquared: Yeah it's quite good, it even reduces the risk of getting liquidated. Let's say you have more than 1 position on cross. Since you realise profits every 10 minutes, you can offset the losses on your other position.
[2023-04-11 04:56:15] moneyaddict : very confusing
[2023-04-11 04:56:16] The_Reaper : 10mins
[2023-04-11 04:56:32] BitMEX_Hans : moneyaddict: what's confusing?
[2023-04-11 04:56:35] elChisoso : But yeah, it keeps realizing as time goes on, entry on position "changes" relative to price, so when closing and upnl is negative, it will take from the realized already profits.
[2023-04-11 04:56:42] elChisoso : It makes sense in a confusing way.
[2023-04-11 04:56:42] The_Reaper : and the upnl is a reflection of the btc u lose since u didnt close 10mins ago?
[2023-04-11 04:57:20] HuskySquared : The_Reaper: yes sir its insane feature
[2023-04-11 04:57:46] elChisoso : So many people will missunderstand how it works.. sooo many. So many support emails.
[2023-04-11 04:57:47] HuskySquared : The_Reaper: https://blog.bitmex.com/site_announcement/now-live-a-new-pnl-realisation-feature-for-more-capital-efficient-cross-margining/
[2023-04-11 04:57:50] elChisoso : I can see it. :)
[2023-04-11 04:57:54] elmo check : I begin to understand
[2023-04-11 04:57:57] HuskySquared : yes
[2023-04-11 04:57:59] HuskySquared : its very good feature
[2023-04-11 04:58:19] BitMEX_Hans : HuskySquared: it's just perfect to free up margin to trade more.. and I can see why you like it :D
[2023-04-11 04:58:59] BitMEX_Hans : so /upnl <symbol> no longer works?
[2023-04-11 04:59:43] bmagic : for cross positions
[2023-04-11 04:59:45] BitMEX_Hans : I mean the trollbox command..
[2023-04-11 04:59:49] HuskySquared : lol
[2023-04-11 04:59:55] HuskySquared : /upnl xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: -0.0674 XBT UPNL ```
[2023-04-11 04:59:58] HuskySquared : works
[2023-04-11 05:00:00] BitMEX_Hans : ah I See
[2023-04-11 05:00:01] HuskySquared : /rpnl xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: 93.0810 XBT RPNL ```
[2023-04-11 05:00:06] BitMEX_Hans : yuge
[2023-04-11 05:00:16] HuskySquared : good that it is freed up
[2023-04-11 05:00:18] bluemaster : BitMEX_Hans: I love this new PNL realization , don;t have to sell ever
[2023-04-11 05:00:20] HuskySquared : means i can buy more bmex with it
[2023-04-11 05:00:37] HuskySquared : brb
[2023-04-11 05:00:39] HuskySquared : coffee
[2023-04-11 05:00:49] BitMEX_Hans : wait what.. is there a message from bluemaster?
[2023-04-11 05:01:04] BitMEX_Hans : not sure if he's on my mute list.. but that would be surprising :D
[2023-04-11 05:01:18] bluemaster : BitMEX_Hans: 😜
[2023-04-11 05:01:20] AbsorbedEverythingUp : Guildo waits Red Diego
[2023-04-11 05:01:33] SimioShort : I dont like it at all :imp:
[2023-04-11 05:01:34] BitMEX_Hans : bluemaster: oh now I can see you
[2023-04-11 05:01:39] AvaMei : just woke up and its confusing xD 500% up pnl red and says 0 i guess i need a coffee first
[2023-04-11 05:01:41] BitMEX_Hans : what was that? :D
[2023-04-11 05:01:58] AvaMei : upnl*
[2023-04-11 05:01:58] AbsorbedEverythingUp : I long Gold to 3k ;-)
[2023-04-11 05:02:09] BitMEX_Hans : AvaMei: let me know if you have any questiosn..
[2023-04-11 05:02:13] AbsorbedEverythingUp : Seems more easy to push shit to limits
[2023-04-11 05:02:23] Fuun : :joy:
[2023-04-11 05:02:23] bluemaster : BitMEX_Hans: i am waiting for some open source code for OCO orders , my son just ingoring my request to program for me
[2023-04-11 05:03:16] AbsorbedEverythingUp : Even he thinks ur a clown?
[2023-04-11 05:03:18] BitMEX_Hans : bluemaster: OCO is already available via API.. let's see if @BitMEX_pez can help us to get OCOs in the UI.
[2023-04-11 05:03:36] LLooter : this futere wil destroy your rpnl in the long run its messes wih your brain dont like it either
[2023-04-11 05:03:55] bluemaster : BitMEX_Hans: someonemust have code for API to use OCO ?
[2023-04-11 05:04:20] BitMEX_Hans : bluemaster: ChatGPT?
[2023-04-11 05:04:31] bluemaster : BitMEX_Hans: doesn;t work
[2023-04-11 05:04:38] BitMEX_Hans : hm that's a shame
[2023-04-11 05:05:35] LLooter : @ admin can you guys add a futere so that someone can choose to use this futere on/off
[2023-04-11 05:05:44] LLooter : that would be apriciatet ty
[2023-04-11 05:07:14] moneyaddict : Yes multiple positions long/short at the same time will be a mess
[2023-04-11 05:08:23] BitMEX_Hans : moneyaddict: If you have a winning and a losing position, then it reduces risk to get liquidated on losing position. Isn't that good?
[2023-04-11 05:08:48] BitMEX_Hans : LLooter: I will share your feedback internally. Can you let me know why you think that it will destroy your realised profits?
[2023-04-11 05:09:45] moneyaddict : BitMEX_Hans: no, I manage pos carefully so dont need that
[2023-04-11 05:10:00] LLooter : i dont get liquuiddated been 5 years already
[2023-04-11 05:10:29] LLooter : so no it simply give me the feeling my position is underwater and dont like it
[2023-04-11 05:10:49] bluemaster : BitMEX_Hans: Deribit had this for long time , now I cannot see once single reason for traders not to use Bitmex No1 exchange
[2023-04-11 05:10:53] The_Reaper : Dont trade cross and it is off?
[2023-04-11 05:11:15] BitMEX_Hans : LLooter: that's good! Then let me share a different example. If you have position with 10XBT profit. You can't use the 10XBT in any other way until you closed your position. With the new feature, we realise profits every 10 minutes and it will allow you to use the realised profits for trading.
[2023-04-11 05:11:43] BitMEX_Hans : The_Reaper: yep, it's only active on cross
[2023-04-11 05:12:22] LLooter : yes what your saying is simply GUYS Go gamble with your money
[2023-04-11 05:12:32] SimioShort : BitMEX_Hans: so you are taking profits for the user? I dont get it
[2023-04-11 05:12:51] BitMEX_Hans : LLooter: you can also withdraw it and keep the position running.. I don't quite understand the problem
[2023-04-11 05:13:51] BitMEX_Hans : SimioShort: no it's not "we".. it's the engine, the trading system. It takes your profits every 10 minutes and puts them into your wallet.
[2023-04-11 05:13:58] LLooter : i know what you guys trying to do and give people a additional extra balance
[2023-04-11 05:14:00] LLooter : but
[2023-04-11 05:14:02] BitMEX_Hans : One more thing to mention is, we do NOT realise losses.
[2023-04-11 05:14:14] BitMEX_Hans : every 10 minutes
[2023-04-11 05:14:34] bluemaster : https://twitter.com/Pledditor/status/1645609967787884545?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1645609967787884545%7Ctwgr%5E19a71144274eb727ad668e4f0e775f33c93dae14%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.news.com.au%2Ffinance%2Fmoney%2Finvesting%2Fbitcoin-smashes-critical-us30000-price-barrier-in-renewed-surge%2Fnews-story%2F8c2fd6fe9809cb563b3e54173ddd6fa2
[2023-04-11 05:14:38] LLooter : for someone who cloes a red pnl within 1% underwater this visaul feels very bad
[2023-04-11 05:14:42] LLooter : like im down
[2023-04-11 05:14:53] The_Reaper : BitMEX_Hans: what happens if the user is liquidated and he moved realised funds away from wallet days earlier?
[2023-04-11 05:15:30] AvaMei : i also dont like that, if i need margin i close a bit of my winning position, i dont get it xD
[2023-04-11 05:16:04] BitMEX_Hans : The_Reaper: on cross positions, the liquidation price of you position is always based on the "Available Balance". Which is basically your wallet balance - any funds that are locked as margin. So if you withdraw funds, you reduce your available balane, which directly affects the liquidation price.
[2023-04-11 05:16:08] Gambit0.5 : my Upnl has just been realised without me doing anything ?
[2023-04-11 05:16:23] BitMEX_Hans : Gambit0.5: https://blog.bitmex.com/site_announcement/now-live-a-new-pnl-realisation-feature-for-more-capital-efficient-cross-margining/
[2023-04-11 05:16:51] The_Reaper : BitMEX_Hans: so the liquidation price can move infront of your entey price basically, whiwh will recover the realised pnl incase of liquidation?
[2023-04-11 05:17:00] BitMEX_Hans : We now realise profits on winning positions every 10 minutes. It will allow you to offset losses on losing positions and use your realised profits.
[2023-04-11 05:17:08] BitMEX_Hans : For a better capital efficiency
[2023-04-11 05:17:08] Gambit0.5 : its @BitMEX_Hans Ah i see thanks
[2023-04-11 05:17:21] Fuun : sounds cute.
[2023-04-11 05:17:27] BitMEX_Hans : Fuun: it is
[2023-04-11 05:17:31] Fuun : sure.
[2023-04-11 05:17:34] The_Reaper : when new afe logs in he will get a heart attack
[2023-04-11 05:17:36] LLooter : but like i asked some people will like this and some well some wont, so giving the players a choice to use this futere with a on/off switch would be better
[2023-04-11 05:17:41] The_Reaper : new age*
[2023-04-11 05:17:45] Dhanu : Hello
[2023-04-11 05:18:01] zouhx : Hi Hans, I'm not in restricted countries, my ip is not from restricted countries, why I always see "Bixtmex trading is not available in your region"?
[2023-04-11 05:18:04] al guul : agree @LLooter
[2023-04-11 05:18:10] BitMEX_Hans : The_Reaper: not sure if I understand that
[2023-04-11 05:18:14] Fuun : just ignore us, u need to work.
[2023-04-11 05:19:19] The_Reaper : BitMEX_Hans: lets say u entered 30444 short, at 30100 u take the pnl, will your liquidation price be somewhere around 30100 then, if your position is using all margin left?
[2023-04-11 05:19:41] BitMEX_Hans : zouhx: did you use a VPN to access the platform? Could you please message our support team? support@bitmex.com, https://www.bitmex.com/contact
[2023-04-11 05:23:08] The_Reaper : BitMEX_Hans: especially if the positions had less value theb the trader already removed from realised, u cant recover those funds otherwise no?
[2023-04-11 05:23:47] BitMEX_Hans : The_Reaper: we don't take all the margin, the position will still keep the Initial Margin which includes the Maintenance MArgin
[2023-04-11 05:24:04] The_Reaper : BitMEX_Hans: Hmmm k
[2023-04-11 05:24:31] BitMEX_Hans : will be away for 30 minutes!
[2023-04-11 05:24:42] Fuun : maybe 45?
[2023-04-11 05:24:50] Fuun : or 51?
[2023-04-11 05:25:05] SimioShort : I think Im going to need a few weeks before I understand this new feature :kek:
[2023-04-11 05:25:16] neki : not quite sure if i like this new PnL feature
[2023-04-11 05:25:27] bmagic : neki: you don't like change
[2023-04-11 05:25:30] Fuun : we are waiting for u, 30m.
[2023-04-11 05:25:58] The_Reaper : Lets get some 28.6 liquidity
[2023-04-11 05:26:01] Fuun : :baby_bottle:?
[2023-04-11 05:26:07] Fuun : or :lollipop:?
[2023-04-11 05:26:22] AvaMei : i also dont like it i like to keep my nice upnl and not auto pnl it to gample more lol
[2023-04-11 05:26:46] bluemaster : SimioShort: nothing new ,simple before pnl was not counted before you close trade
[2023-04-11 05:26:49] The_Reaper : Welcome to the casino
[2023-04-11 05:26:50] Gambit0.5 : 😆
[2023-04-11 05:26:56] New Age : /pnl xbtm23 YMCMB RR we rich forever ``` :bitmex: XBTM23: 32.1925 XBT RPNL, -0.0778 XBT UPNL ```
[2023-04-11 05:26:59] al guul : New feature seems ok, I just didnt get the memo
[2023-04-11 05:27:00] al guul : 🚀🚀🚀
[2023-04-11 05:27:01] neki : bmagic: its not change.. its position control loss, imo
[2023-04-11 05:27:27] The_Reaper : New Age: add the entire 32 btc to your position brah
[2023-04-11 05:27:32] AvaMei : /pnl xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: 0.0025 XBT RPNL, -0.0000 XBT UPNL ```
[2023-04-11 05:27:35] New Age : /pnl xbtu23 long live Lord Arthur ``` :bitmex: XBTU23: 2.3330 XBT RPNL, -0.0060 XBT UPNL ```
[2023-04-11 05:28:36] The_Reaper : :arthur:
[2023-04-11 05:28:44] The_Reaper : :me:
[2023-04-11 05:29:14] moneyaddict : All bears dead, crazy time
[2023-04-11 05:29:52] SimioShort : I just dont get used to see that number in red when the porcentage is positive... :imp:
[2023-04-11 05:32:29] AvaMei : yeah, would be better if it auto pnl is also move the entry price to that price then, wouldnt be so confising then
[2023-04-11 05:34:42] Muharremince : /competition rank ``` :bitmex: Muharremince rank: 96 ```
[2023-04-11 05:37:15] SimioShort : AvaMei: probably tomorrow they rolled it back :kek:
[2023-04-11 05:40:56] UglyOldGoat : I agree this is a major improvement.
[2023-04-11 05:42:22] bluemaster : UglyOldGoat: I agree , now just make UI for OCO orders and Bimtex back to No 1
[2023-04-11 05:42:53] UglyOldGoat : bluemaster: UI?
[2023-04-11 05:43:19] UglyOldGoat : bluemaster: UI?
[2023-04-11 05:43:22] bluemaster : UglyOldGoat: now they have OCO orders only via API
[2023-04-11 05:44:24] LLooter : the biggest danger of this futere is that a lot of people will use more of there belance the they actually own, what means that there will be more postions open then the total balnces and, whenever a fun Bmex "'Suck A d*ck Wick'' occurs it probably will cause such a additional extra chain reaction a lot of accounts wil be whiped out
[2023-04-11 05:44:31] MrBritcoin : bring the thunder
[2023-04-11 05:45:06] UglyOldGoat : LLooter: Yes very possible.
[2023-04-11 05:45:08] MrBritcoin : ☔☔☔
[2023-04-11 05:45:10] SimioShort : LLooter: that's the point I guess :kek:
[2023-04-11 05:45:49] UglyOldGoat : Two additions that can really add value is add gold, silver, SPX, FTSE, DAX
[2023-04-11 05:45:53] SimioShort : that and the upcoming 200x :kek:
[2023-04-11 05:46:08] Bingkaruang : BitMEX_Hans: Hi Hans, I wonder why my Doge position and UNPL is losing, while my position is way below the mark price. I tried to sell some and my balance become less and less, not profit. /position dogeusd
[2023-04-11 05:46:13] MrBritcoin : LLooter: lol bring it
[2023-04-11 05:46:36] UglyOldGoat : Second, the ability to lease Bmex bags
[2023-04-11 05:46:40] MrBritcoin : smart guy right there
[2023-04-11 05:46:59] The_Reaper : Bingkaruang: u already received the "upnl" which is now auto added under pnl, upnl reflects your position change every 10 minutes
[2023-04-11 05:47:12] bluemaster : UglyOldGoat: I had idea you are Bitcoin maxi ? FTSE,Dax ? who need that fiat shit here
[2023-04-11 05:47:34] LLooter : yeah dont saay bring it m8 you will get destroyed asweel even if you use a stoploss,,,, bmex likes to us a shit ton of slippage and with this its gonna be epic 2-10K slippage on your position
[2023-04-11 05:47:58] UglyOldGoat : bluemaster: Dirvatves.
[2023-04-11 05:48:13] Bingkaruang : The_Reaper: does it means this is new system now?
[2023-04-11 05:48:18] The_Reaper : Bingkaruang: yup
[2023-04-11 05:48:29] Bingkaruang : The_Reaper: I see... okay thanks!
[2023-04-11 05:48:32] The_Reaper : Bingkaruang: your former upnl is now auto added to your balance every 10 minutes
[2023-04-11 05:48:36] UglyOldGoat : Futures are made for hedgers , not speculators
[2023-04-11 05:48:40] The_Reaper : Bingkaruang: as pnl
[2023-04-11 05:48:45] MrBritcoin : as i said there is no such thing as a free lunch
[2023-04-11 05:48:56] Bingkaruang : The_Reaper: means we can us UNPL now to buy more?
[2023-04-11 05:49:12] Gambit0.5 : 👍
[2023-04-11 05:49:37] UglyOldGoat : When we take a break it would be nice to lease Bmex bags for those who want to lower fees but cannot afford the Bmex
[2023-04-11 05:49:52] Gambit0.5 : might affect liq price tho
[2023-04-11 05:50:08] The_Reaper : Bingkaruang: u can use the pnl to add more, the upnl reflects the change in value of your position every 10 minutes, if price goes back to your entry point, upnl will become red, if u have a stoploss, then that upnl will be deducted from your wallet, as u already received the profit update every 10minutes in pnl
[2023-04-11 05:50:13] gday1200 : 25k now?
[2023-04-11 05:50:34] The_Reaper : Bingkaruang: hope thats clear for you :)
[2023-04-11 05:50:41] elChisoso : Nah, first 120k.
[2023-04-11 05:50:52] elChisoso : There is no stopping the rockets now.
[2023-04-11 05:51:15] The_Reaper : elChisoso: wowowow mr. bull
[2023-04-11 05:51:21] elChisoso : Europe is about to wake up, and all of them is going to open their wallets.
[2023-04-11 05:51:22] Fuun : sad.
[2023-04-11 05:51:27] Fuun : it is missing.
[2023-04-11 05:51:52] elChisoso : The_Reaper: If you can't beat them, join them.
[2023-04-11 05:51:52] al guul : Lets all add more. The show must go on 🚀
[2023-04-11 05:52:02] The_Reaper : elChisoso: 😁
[2023-04-11 05:52:13] Fuun : okay, it has a few minutes left.
[2023-04-11 05:52:24] Bingkaruang : The_Reaper: bit confusing but I get what you mean, so as long as we don't cut loss/stop then it is good, better than the last system right
[2023-04-11 05:53:52] The_Reaper : Bingkaruang: well, nothing changed basically, except u get the profit of your position every 10 minutes, and just gotta see when price reverses back to your entry price
[2023-04-11 05:53:54] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated short on `XRPUSD`: Buy 519 Cont @ 0.5286 ($1,645.53)
[2023-04-11 05:54:09] Fuun : happens.
[2023-04-11 05:54:18] Fuun : hans is still missing in action.
[2023-04-11 05:54:24] Fuun : 30m are over.
[2023-04-11 05:54:27] Fuun : :blush:
[2023-04-11 05:54:33] The_Reaper : Bingkaruang: putting a stop in profit will just deduct the negative upnl from the pnl, and it will be same as if it were all still the old upnl system in the end
[2023-04-11 05:55:24] Allmightypush : This new thing sucks. You cant see your profits real time why you wanna hide them?
[2023-04-11 05:58:30] Mr.IToldYou : Hello
[2023-04-11 05:58:38] Bingkaruang : The_Reaper: got it... thanks bro
[2023-04-11 05:58:40] Mr.IToldYou : What does 30day adv mean?
[2023-04-11 05:59:12] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 4000 USD @ 29844
[2023-04-11 05:59:31] Fuun : now maybe?
[2023-04-11 06:00:04] The Beast : Mr.IToldYou: i donno may be average daily volume?
[2023-04-11 06:00:20] The_Reaper : Ladies and gentleman, i believe we have reached a local top
[2023-04-11 06:00:38] The_Reaper : adjust your positions accordingly
[2023-04-11 06:00:43] Mr.IToldYou : The Beast: what nummber does Yours say?
[2023-04-11 06:01:08] The Beast : 30k
[2023-04-11 06:01:14] Mr.IToldYou : Same
[2023-04-11 06:02:13] Mr.IToldYou : The_Reaper: lol waith for blow offtop dont get tricked into short
[2023-04-11 06:02:23] The Beast : 30,527
[2023-04-11 06:02:28] The Beast : whats yours?
[2023-04-11 06:02:38] Mr.IToldYou : The Beast: ty for you're responce mine says 28.4
[2023-04-11 06:03:23] Mr.IToldYou : Stophunt failed lol @The_Reaper