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[2017-04-25 19:13:31] sleger : :p
[2017-04-25 19:13:56] rapidtrades : http://www.coindesk.com/winklevoss-bitcoin-etf-relaunch-analysts-chance/
[2017-04-25 19:14:54] Ahhere : sleger: $50 now thats why I got into this crypto shit easy big money
[2017-04-25 19:15:04] 5bg : BitMEX_Greg: is there a way to see the timer for the gno session
[2017-04-25 19:15:10] rapidtrades : http://www.coindesk.com/ethereum-ico-irrationality-300-million-gnosis-valuation-sparks-market-concerns/
[2017-04-25 19:15:15] rapidtrades : ^ there's our boy
[2017-04-25 19:15:47] alfaCharlie : 5bg: u can see the funding time for btc swap for next GNO time
[2017-04-25 19:15:48] Sultan Pepper : Gno are basically call/put because of timer?
[2017-04-25 19:16:15] rapidtrades : no
[2017-04-25 19:16:32] hmmmYea : sleger: sleger is correct. only chance the ETF woudl get approved is if someone at the etf is making a political decision to reverse the decision. given ETH has a lot more political pull due its large corporate backers... its posiible, bt rather unlikely, i think
[2017-04-25 19:16:42] Sultan Pepper : but if they reach a limit and stay there...
[2017-04-25 19:16:47] hmmmYea : someone at the SEC*
[2017-04-25 19:17:01] rapidtrades : it only stays there cos ppl are buying
[2017-04-25 19:17:13] rapidtrades : its not a feature of the limits
[2017-04-25 19:17:29] rapidtrades : although the limits prolly exercebate the fomo behavior
[2017-04-25 19:18:16] Labowski : /price
[2017-04-25 19:18:17] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1277.05 (0.34%) Bitfinex : 1372.10 (0.03%) OKCоin : 1223.79 (-0.65%) itBit : 1277.80 (0.24%) Kraken : 1276.85 (-0.03%) GDAX : 1280.77 (-0.09%) SLQ : 43 mins```
[2017-04-25 19:18:43] sleger : when is kraken listing gno ?
[2017-04-25 19:18:51] rapidtrades : 'in one week'
[2017-04-25 19:19:39] sleger : i'll probably short "in one week" and 1-2 days
[2017-04-25 19:20:02] biz : what is the going rate going to be on kraken
[2017-04-25 19:20:18] sleger : maybe the price will go up 50% against me at some point after and I'll end up making a few tens of btc a week later yet rapid will call me stupid
[2017-04-25 19:20:20] rapidtrades : sleger: then u'll get caught in the polo fomo
[2017-04-25 19:20:51] rapidtrades : u are stupid tho cos ur not making money on average
[2017-04-25 19:21:02] rapidtrades : u made 5k in ripple, lost 20k in ZEC
[2017-04-25 19:21:11] sleger : made over 1m on eth
[2017-04-25 19:21:16] sleger : average < 0 ?
[2017-04-25 19:21:28] rapidtrades : im talking about shorting alts and adding to losses
[2017-04-25 19:21:35] rugu : 1m -20k + 5k seems more than 0
[2017-04-25 19:21:38] rapidtrades : u can't short bubbles
[2017-04-25 19:21:44] sleger : i've done much more than that, im short a few on polo as well
[2017-04-25 19:22:00] sleger : maid str bts clam
[2017-04-25 19:22:10] 5bg : if you got the roll to wait out a bubble you can short it
[2017-04-25 19:22:15] rapidtrades : so are u up on average with that strat?
[2017-04-25 19:22:22] sleger : short alts ?
[2017-04-25 19:22:31] rapidtrades : yes and adding
[2017-04-25 19:22:54] sleger : probably flat if you include zec, which was a lesson learned
[2017-04-25 19:23:04] rapidtrades : what did u learn
[2017-04-25 19:23:16] sleger : to not short zec
[2017-04-25 19:23:18] sleger : lol
[2017-04-25 19:23:27] sleger : no to pay attention to the float available
[2017-04-25 19:23:39] sleger : and wait for initial fomo or 2 after each new coin before shorting
[2017-04-25 19:24:26] MikeHunt : same method Manstein used against Soviets
[2017-04-25 19:24:34] MikeHunt : let them fomo, then short em
[2017-04-25 19:25:14] L9 : GNO spread is enourmous
[2017-04-25 19:25:35] L9 : What is the purpose in one more illiquid instrument
[2017-04-25 19:25:51] MikeHunt : (Donets Campaign)
[2017-04-25 19:29:50] L9 : MikeHunt: And three years later soviets shorrted all of them :D
[2017-04-25 19:30:33] MikeHunt : L9: and longed their women ;)
[2017-04-25 19:32:08] justinlooking : that fkin zec
[2017-04-25 19:32:13] justinlooking : still butthurt
[2017-04-25 19:38:56] RS : Same short squeeze as with Zcash. How many limit ups did we have then?
[2017-04-25 19:38:57] biz : incoming butthurt GNO shorters
[2017-04-25 19:39:52] biz : going to 0.062 in 20 minutes
[2017-04-25 19:40:53] justinlooking : RS: limits were removed in zec - it rekt a lot of ppl
[2017-04-25 19:41:05] biz : is GNO limit 10 BTC?
[2017-04-25 19:41:57] zfan : biz: no
[2017-04-25 19:43:17] justinlooking : sth sth irrational sth sth solvent
[2017-04-25 19:45:54] arslan75 : when the GNO next trading session?
[2017-04-25 19:46:15] zfan : 14 min
[2017-04-25 19:46:31] rugu : anyone planning to long it and ride the fomo?
[2017-04-25 19:46:49] Ahhere : Gno way
[2017-04-25 19:46:56] rugu : lol
[2017-04-25 19:47:05] arslan75 : can i know the timing of sessions for GNO
[2017-04-25 19:47:12] rugu : 10-15min i think
[2017-04-25 19:47:22] rugu : each session is for 2 hrs
[2017-04-25 19:48:15] slacknation : who long gno?
[2017-04-25 19:48:15] slacknation : test
[2017-04-25 19:48:50] biz : i longed it
[2017-04-25 19:48:52] biz : 0.039
[2017-04-25 19:49:01] Ahhere : Market buying 138 contracts now
[2017-04-25 19:49:17] biz : you can only long 104 contracts (unless hidden orders) in 11 minutes
[2017-04-25 19:49:20] slacknation : planning to buy also
[2017-04-25 19:49:27] biz : or close your shorts into those 103 contracts
[2017-04-25 19:49:30] biz : good luck
[2017-04-25 19:49:48] slacknation : gno supply is very limited
[2017-04-25 19:49:57] Ahhere : Gno shit @slacknation
[2017-04-25 19:50:07] biz : GNO is going to be worth $79 on here in 10 minutes
[2017-04-25 19:52:03] 5bg : ~800mil market cap for a betting site that's not launched yet., whales will short this the only question is how many people will they liquidate first?
[2017-04-25 19:52:56] Ahhere : Sad that the pump and dumps have just got more sophisticated.
[2017-04-25 19:54:27] Ahhere : Makes you wonder where the world is gnoing ?
[2017-04-25 19:55:29] podizzle3k : Ahhere: this shit all happened before in 1999
[2017-04-25 19:55:42] podizzle3k : you think we're inventing the overvalued asset?
[2017-04-25 19:55:51] podizzle3k : probably happened many times before that too
[2017-04-25 19:55:53] Ahhere : Y2k is back??
[2017-04-25 19:56:05] podizzle3k : more or less. crypto bubble has many similarities to tech bubble
[2017-04-25 19:56:25] podizzle3k : all those shitty websites getting huge ipos back then
[2017-04-25 19:56:32] Ahhere : I gnow it's nothing new but still
[2017-04-25 19:56:32] 5bg : is the number in margin the limit of my losses?
[2017-04-25 19:56:40] podizzle3k : hahah do you gno
[2017-04-25 19:56:54] podizzle3k : bro do you gno tho?
[2017-04-25 19:56:59] podizzle3k : do you even gno bro?
[2017-04-25 19:57:04] Ahhere : Lol
[2017-04-25 19:57:21] Ahhere : Meme required
[2017-04-25 19:58:57] podizzle3k : predictions on next season gno
[2017-04-25 19:59:03] podizzle3k : i think maybe float in the middle
[2017-04-25 19:59:52] podizzle3k : surprised only 100 sells
[2017-04-25 20:00:04] biz : here we go
[2017-04-25 20:00:12] REKT : Liquidated short on `GNOM17`: buy 2 @ 0.061384
[2017-04-25 20:00:12] REKT : Liquidated short on `GNOM17`: buy 4 @ 0.056250
[2017-04-25 20:00:12] REKT : Liquidated short on `GNOM17`: buy 126 @ 0.059618
[2017-04-25 20:00:12] REKT : Liquidated short on `GNOM17`: buy 3 @ 0.056256
[2017-04-25 20:00:19] podizzle3k : annnnnnnnd thyre gone
[2017-04-25 20:00:29] podizzle3k : wow rekt shorts!
[2017-04-25 20:00:41] podizzle3k : whos gonna scoop up the liquidations
[2017-04-25 20:00:46] podizzle3k : just do it bro
[2017-04-25 20:00:51] podizzle3k : u gno u want to
[2017-04-25 20:00:55] alfaCharlie : 93% lol
[2017-04-25 20:01:19] biz : rekt o'clock in 2 hours again
[2017-04-25 20:01:44] biz : dont know why you'd short 4btc worth
[2017-04-25 20:02:24] sleger : but 2 is ok ?
[2017-04-25 20:02:34] sleger : irrespective of how many btc you have in your account ?
[2017-04-25 20:03:09] arslan75 : is next in 2 hours of GNO
[2017-04-25 20:03:23] arslan75 : mean next session
[2017-04-25 20:03:26] 5bg : mistakes were made, shouldn't have short on phone before learning about contract, 2.5 btc bye bye
[2017-04-25 20:03:28] rapidtrades : there are 700-800 new ppl in this chat and all of them talk crap
[2017-04-25 20:05:16] Ahhere : Watching 'dot con' documentary in preparation for the crypto crash.
[2017-04-25 20:05:31] flux : is bitmex ever gonna allow us to set tx fee?
[2017-04-25 20:05:35] podizzle3k : Ahhere: lets short it to hell
[2017-04-25 20:05:45] podizzle3k : when the time is right of course
[2017-04-25 20:05:45] zecpumperIseeyou : That's why we are here to gamble, gamble before the crash
[2017-04-25 20:05:50] Ahhere : Long the dollar !
[2017-04-25 20:05:55] flux : i dont know why i have to pay .003 to withdraw
[2017-04-25 20:06:10] biz : flux: you want your BTC today, right?
[2017-04-25 20:06:16] rugu : what exchange is GNO on as well?
[2017-04-25 20:06:26] podizzle3k : flux take it to cryptopia if youre pushing pennies
[2017-04-25 20:06:37] podizzle3k : this is ballers only club
[2017-04-25 20:06:50] podizzle3k : rugu: youre at it
[2017-04-25 20:06:58] podizzle3k : here and here
[2017-04-25 20:07:09] biz : wow adl?
[2017-04-25 20:07:31] podizzle3k : a shorter has emerged
[2017-04-25 20:07:34] rugu : podizzle3k: is it on any other exchanges?
[2017-04-25 20:07:51] podizzle3k : rugu: gno
[2017-04-25 20:07:57] rugu : :)
[2017-04-25 20:08:33] podizzle3k : lets all take a moment to pay respects to the shorter and his sacrifice for us
[2017-04-25 20:08:35] podizzle3k : F
[2017-04-25 20:08:53] podizzle3k : i guess it could just be someone cashing out
[2017-04-25 20:09:42] zfan : podizzle3k: the open interest increased, so its a new shorter
[2017-04-25 20:09:51] podizzle3k : zfan: good info
[2017-04-25 20:10:19] bingbongfly : nice, btc another leg up soon
[2017-04-25 20:10:22] zfan : sorry, last 26
[2017-04-25 20:10:33] podizzle3k : eh?
[2017-04-25 20:10:41] Ahhere : "some say the internet is so revolutionary that the usual rules for valuing a stock such as revenues and income no longer apply." The late 90s
[2017-04-25 20:11:49] zecpumperIseeyou : "Some says the crypto is so revolutionary that a whitepaper may be worth 600 mill market cap" The late 2010s
[2017-04-25 20:12:20] bingbongfly : "some say most people won't even own 1 btc"
[2017-04-25 20:12:20] podizzle3k : the... wait for it.... blockchain
[2017-04-25 20:12:27] Ahhere : When you see that shit on TV sell everything.
[2017-04-25 20:12:49] plappa : F
[2017-04-25 20:12:51] plappa : get rekt
[2017-04-25 20:12:59] podizzle3k : most people wont own btc that is definitely true regardless of what happens
[2017-04-25 20:13:14] podizzle3k : either it will go to shit and nobody will want it or it will be expensive and everyone will want it
[2017-04-25 20:13:15] Ahhere : Lol @podizzle3k
[2017-04-25 20:13:23] aSxx : xxccs
[2017-04-25 20:13:44] bingbongfly : podizzle3k: And most peeople wont afford even 1
[2017-04-25 20:13:48] Ahhere : The 1 million club will be very secretive in the negative scenario
[2017-04-25 20:13:49] bingbongfly : just a few sathoshis xD
[2017-04-25 20:14:00] podizzle3k : well lets think about this for a sec theres 21M total coins so how the fuck can everyone have one
[2017-04-25 20:14:14] Ahhere : No bragging about that club
[2017-04-25 20:14:21] bingbongfly : podizzle3k: they can't! thats the beauty
[2017-04-25 20:14:41] bingbongfly : There are already more then 21 mil ppl that want 1 btc and cant get it
[2017-04-25 20:14:48] orly : podizzle3k: global warming, nuclear threats
[2017-04-25 20:14:54] bingbongfly : they will do everything they can to try and get 1 btc, but they cant
[2017-04-25 20:14:55] orly : 21M could be enough in the end
[2017-04-25 20:14:58] podizzle3k : orly: stop yr scaring me
[2017-04-25 20:15:04] sleger : or just rename 1 btc to be 1m satoshis
[2017-04-25 20:15:29] sleger : bitcoins are divisible
[2017-04-25 20:15:32] sleger : satoshis are not
[2017-04-25 20:15:44] alfaCharlie : GNOsis are so smart they made two tokens GNO to collect funds and then WIZ tokens to tradee
[2017-04-25 20:15:44] bingbongfly : Serious question; is it even worth getting into any other profession then tech for the future?
[2017-04-25 20:16:05] podizzle3k : bingbongfly: whats something a robot cant do
[2017-04-25 20:16:15] podizzle3k : human e-sports
[2017-04-25 20:16:16] sleger : maybe real art
[2017-04-25 20:16:33] podizzle3k : human entertainment is the only answer i think
[2017-04-25 20:16:33] datboiyuan : captchas
[2017-04-25 20:16:37] datboiyuan : HAH!
[2017-04-25 20:16:46] 5bg : bingbongfly: lots of robot proof jobs, teacher, doctor etc
[2017-04-25 20:16:47] CrazySteve : what are your trades for today y'all? I think we'll hit 1300 and then it will burn to the ground
[2017-04-25 20:16:57] bingbongfly : yes, I have to get into tech I guess
[2017-04-25 20:17:03] CrazySteve : /sentiment
[2017-04-25 20:17:03] datboiyuan : damn steve you're crazy man
[2017-04-25 20:17:05] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 56.40 / 43.60 Daily : 31.99 / 68.01 Weekly : 47.08 / 52.92 Monthly : 46.44 / 53.56```
[2017-04-25 20:17:17] rugu : how many of you are actually long on gyou gno what
[2017-04-25 20:17:27] podizzle3k : im moving all my btc into beanie babies
[2017-04-25 20:17:46] Ahhere : bingbongfly: just buy your coin and wait for the sexbots to suck you off all day long for half your universal living wage.
[2017-04-25 20:18:45] Tommy : The index went so low but nobody is shorting LTC any more?
[2017-04-25 20:19:12] bingbongfly : Ahhere: haha, yes I'll do that too. But I'm taking my exam now from gymnasium and seriously worried about professions outside of tech
[2017-04-25 20:20:42] podizzle3k : bingbongfly: theres worse things than super efficient robots doing all the shit we dont want to do
[2017-04-25 20:20:45] biz : Tommy: i know that is weird
[2017-04-25 20:20:58] biz : LTC not dipping to save people from getting rekt
[2017-04-25 20:21:04] podizzle3k : if everyone gets seed money (basic income) then you can have an awesome network of small businesses
[2017-04-25 20:21:06] Ahhere : Don't be a lawyer, don't be a doctor unless doing the most complex procedures, don't be an accountant, don't be a trader, hmm just be rich before the robot event horizon. Or a masseuse, people will always want a real human masseuse.
[2017-04-25 20:21:23] Tommy : biz: Then maybe all of a sudden there will be a big REKT?
[2017-04-25 20:21:50] podizzle3k : personally im more worried about nano weapons than AI
[2017-04-25 20:22:04] slacknation : so gno can actually go up to 1?
[2017-04-25 20:22:09] podizzle3k : nano age iis coming in the 2020s good ai not until 2030
[2017-04-25 20:22:14] biz : just climb a massive hill and join a suicide pack. not worth living any more
[2017-04-25 20:22:32] Ahhere : Best option tbh^^
[2017-04-25 20:22:47] podizzle3k : slacknation: 1 is very optimistic
[2017-04-25 20:23:20] podizzle3k : im pretty sure those who bought at $30 would consider selling at $1300
[2017-04-25 20:23:56] podizzle3k : but then again they cant sell for a week
[2017-04-25 20:25:09] gustavo7 : where can i see limit calc time on gno
[2017-04-25 20:25:35] podizzle3k : its every 2 hours on the hour
[2017-04-25 20:26:13] gustavo7 : ah i see it, in the chart lol
[2017-04-25 20:27:55] igr : /sentiment
[2017-04-25 20:27:57] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 57.10 / 42.90 Daily : 32.09 / 67.91 Weekly : 47.08 / 52.92 Monthly : 46.42 / 53.58```
[2017-04-25 20:29:58] NL007 : hi
[2017-04-25 20:30:07] NL007 : :)
[2017-04-25 20:30:11] MikeHunt : NL007: james bond
[2017-04-25 20:30:24] NL007 : i am back!
[2017-04-25 20:30:47] NL007 : Making any btc here?
[2017-04-25 20:31:06] MikeHunt : no but i havent lost any, yet :P
[2017-04-25 20:32:23] NL007 : How is gno doing?
[2017-04-25 20:32:38] NL007 : +95.31%
[2017-04-25 20:32:42] NL007 : 0-o
[2017-04-25 20:33:41] Tommy : Guys, is BTC-E really a shady exchange? Do they really steal your money?
[2017-04-25 20:34:07] NL007 : Tommy: i havent traded for years on btc-e
[2017-04-25 20:34:31] MikeHunt : NL007: gno idea
[2017-04-25 20:34:45] MikeHunt : Tommy: apparently they do sometimes
[2017-04-25 20:34:54] MikeHunt : usually requires a provacation thou
[2017-04-25 20:35:07] MikeHunt : they apparently got hacked a while back, covered it up and then banned the guy who reported it
[2017-04-25 20:35:15] NL007 : ok
[2017-04-25 20:35:17] Tommy : Any one suffered loss there? I read their reviews and 90% of them said the exchange stole their money.
[2017-04-25 20:36:15] Tommy : So I wonder if they really still or they are just reviews by noobs who don't know how to handle security.
[2017-04-25 20:36:23] Tommy : steal
[2017-04-25 20:36:27] Tommy : not still
[2017-04-25 20:37:12] Tommy : Some said even with 2FA, funds were still stolen and accounts were banned.
[2017-04-25 20:37:48] MikeHunt : Tommy: i heard with chat ban can come a withdrawal ban
[2017-04-25 20:37:53] MikeHunt : which means ur essentially fucked
[2017-04-25 20:38:51] Tommy : MikeHunt: I don't even want to use the chat there. Could my account be banned all of a sudden? People said clicking on links in the trollbox there got their account stolen.
[2017-04-25 20:39:18] biz : i used btce back in the day
[2017-04-25 20:39:24] biz : only place that had LTC for 3 cents
[2017-04-25 20:39:41] NL007 : biz: me too
[2017-04-25 20:39:47] MikeHunt : Tommy: sounds like a mixture of withdrawal bans and account hacks
[2017-04-25 20:40:02] MikeHunt : since chat uses login username
[2017-04-25 20:40:12] MikeHunt : so dont use chat basically
[2017-04-25 20:40:12] NL007 : btc-e is losing many users
[2017-04-25 20:40:15] MikeHunt : and u should b alright
[2017-04-25 20:40:27] NL007 : they wont survive for long
[2017-04-25 20:40:43] Tommy : It's scary to hear the horror stories. But they offer one of the largest LTCBTC markets.
[2017-04-25 20:41:14] podizzle3k : tommy btc-e has always been fair with me
[2017-04-25 20:41:32] podizzle3k : they even double refunded me once when they got ddossed and my trade got lost in the ether
[2017-04-25 20:41:35] MikeHunt : same here
[2017-04-25 20:42:07] rapidtrades : not even 100% gains on gno
[2017-04-25 20:42:08] rapidtrades : lame
[2017-04-25 20:42:10] MikeHunt : used to use em in my mining days to dump doge there
[2017-04-25 20:42:18] Tommy : podizzle3k: Good to know that. But the reviews are still so scary that maybe I should put a limited amount of funds there.
[2017-04-25 20:42:45] podizzle3k : Tommy: honestly id say that they are the most trustworthy exchange at this point just based on longetevity
[2017-04-25 20:42:52] MikeHunt : Tommy: never totally rely on one exchange
[2017-04-25 20:43:03] NL007 : Tommy: reviews can be fake
[2017-04-25 20:43:09] podizzle3k : i wouldnt do any kinds of fiat dealings with them but i think that goes without saying
[2017-04-25 20:43:15] podizzle3k : keep it crypto
[2017-04-25 20:43:45] MikeHunt : if ur storing crypto for any period of timeu could put it in the respective wallet
[2017-04-25 20:43:52] Tommy : NL007: Sure. I appreciate the second opinions here.
[2017-04-25 20:44:02] rapidtrades : btce will work fine until it doesn't
[2017-04-25 20:44:16] rapidtrades : it will just be gone day with everyne's money
[2017-04-25 20:44:28] MikeHunt : at with fingox u know what to expect.. completel incompetance
[2017-04-25 20:44:37] Tommy : rapidtrades: I guess every exchange is like that before going bankrupt.
[2017-04-25 20:45:03] MikeHunt : kraken seems pretty open/reliable
[2017-04-25 20:45:08] rapidtrades : i trade on btce but they're definitely shady
[2017-04-25 20:45:19] podizzle3k : like i said 6 years earns you respect in the crypto world
[2017-04-25 20:45:39] Tommy : rapidtrades: But they are making 0.4% from both sides of a trade. Not sure why they still need to steal.
[2017-04-25 20:45:47] NL007 : exchange should always use part of fees to build buffers in case of a hack
[2017-04-25 20:45:57] Ahhere : Btce never gave me any problems other than their hack but no coins lost
[2017-04-25 20:46:15] rapidtrades : they leaked my email in that hack
[2017-04-25 20:46:21] rapidtrades : but didn't lose money
[2017-04-25 20:46:50] NL007 : rapidtrades: any link to emails leaked
[2017-04-25 20:46:52] Tommy : ic
[2017-04-25 20:46:53] podizzle3k : gnosis crashing
[2017-04-25 20:46:56] podizzle3k : panic
[2017-04-25 20:47:00] rapidtrades : ofc problem with btce is no transparency
[2017-04-25 20:47:16] rapidtrades : they could be running a fractional reverse right now from a previous hack
[2017-04-25 20:47:30] rapidtrades : that's why i say they will be fine until they're gone :)
[2017-04-25 20:48:26] Ahhere : Fees are relatively high and volume not bad they have a golden goose
[2017-04-25 20:48:51] Ahhere : The secrecy and longevity is somewhat reassuring
[2017-04-25 20:49:18] rapidtrades : i wish kraken would get its shit together
[2017-04-25 20:49:36] rapidtrades : an exchange that's offline during every major movement is useless for trading
[2017-04-25 20:49:43] Tommy : Ahhere: I really don't understand why exchanges still need to steal from users. Crypto market is so new and the profits from commission are great.
[2017-04-25 20:49:48] rapidtrades : only useful as on/off ramp
[2017-04-25 20:50:23] Ahhere : Tommy: greedy unregulated morons basically
[2017-04-25 20:50:28] NL007 : Tommy: because they get to greedy
[2017-04-25 20:50:30] rapidtrades : Tommy: crooks are drawn to this market because there are little repercussions
[2017-04-25 20:50:48] rapidtrades : just fake a hack and ur fine
[2017-04-25 20:51:01] rapidtrades : who'll prove u didn't do it?
[2017-04-25 20:51:09] rapidtrades : finex never showed us a police report or an audit
[2017-04-25 20:51:16] Ahhere : But i wouldn't like to be wanted by some of the dodgiest crypto users lol
[2017-04-25 20:51:17] NL007 : try to find a hacker who steals 1000s of btc in Nigeria or China
[2017-04-25 20:51:28] rapidtrades : just moved money from their address to different address
[2017-04-25 20:51:34] rapidtrades : were they hacked? who knows
[2017-04-25 20:51:57] Tommy : rapidtrades: I lost a considerable amount from their "hack" last year. Immediately redeemed the tokens and never went back.
[2017-04-25 20:52:36] Skyrik : Wow imagine that GNO can do
[2017-04-25 20:52:39] Skyrik : the same as ZEC
[2017-04-25 20:52:57] rapidtrades : /price
[2017-04-25 20:52:59] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1275.19 (-0.15%) Bitfinex : 1374.60 (0.18%) OKCоin : 1222.98 (-0.07%) itBit : 1278.20 (0.03%) Kraken : 1278.00 (0.09%) GDAX : 1283.99 (0.25%) SLQ : 1 hour, 34 mins```
[2017-04-25 20:53:13] Tommy : rapidtrades: The fucking Giancarlo wpuldn't even consider converting the loss of customers to future commission fees so they can keep trading there.
[2017-04-25 20:53:54] rapidtrades : they planned this scam from the start, bought them tokens low
[2017-04-25 20:54:20] Tommy : rapidtrades: This alone can get them blocked by all legit banks.
[2017-04-25 20:54:28] rapidtrades : yeah of course
[2017-04-25 20:54:49] Tommy : rapidtrades: I really wish their current customers good luck. Who would be dumb enough to still trade there?!
[2017-04-25 20:55:02] rapidtrades : they also plan to go around money laundering laws, which could lend them in jail (fingers crosses)
[2017-04-25 20:55:26] Tommy : rapidtrades: I will celebrate if they get in jail.
[2017-04-25 20:55:48] rapidtrades : this is what criminals do, they get away from smth then they escalate, taking dumber and dumber risks
[2017-04-25 20:56:26] Tommy : rapidtrades: They act like nobody can sue them. I can't believe not a single lawsuit for $60M loss.
[2017-04-25 20:56:54] rapidtrades : crypto ppl are idiots, i tried to get smth going, was made fun off
[2017-04-25 20:56:57] Tommy : rapidtrades: Could only be that nobody could serve them.
[2017-04-25 20:57:40] NL007 : USDT is imploding
[2017-04-25 20:57:49] podizzle3k : really?
[2017-04-25 20:57:51] podizzle3k : whats it at
[2017-04-25 20:57:58] Skyrik : cheap GNO next 2 hours will be more )
[2017-04-25 20:58:28] biz : gno going to be 0.073 in 1 hour 2 minutes
[2017-04-25 20:58:45] Skyrik : i think in 2 minutes no?
[2017-04-25 20:58:49] podizzle3k : biz: thats .077551
[2017-04-25 20:58:55] rapidtrades : biz: idk about that, a lot more selling this time around
[2017-04-25 20:58:55] biz : oh snap
[2017-04-25 20:59:01] biz : means more rekts
[2017-04-25 20:59:08] Tommy : The swap rate is so high again.
[2017-04-25 20:59:09] podizzle3k : rapidtrades is getting bearish it must be time to buyyyyyyyyyyy
[2017-04-25 20:59:10] biz : shorting = death every 2 hours
[2017-04-25 20:59:25] NL007 : gno could hit 0.1
[2017-04-25 20:59:32] Tommy : If you short both LTCBTC and XBT, the reward is handsome.
[2017-04-25 20:59:35] Skyrik : How how do you think GNO will go?
[2017-04-25 20:59:39] Skyrik : 0.5 ?
[2017-04-25 20:59:40] podizzle3k : USDT still 91 cents hardly imploding
[2017-04-25 20:59:44] podizzle3k : been sitting there for over a week
[2017-04-25 20:59:52] Tommy : Shoring LTCBTC and XBT is equivalent to shorting LTCUSD.
[2017-04-25 21:00:17] podizzle3k : tommy's on that next level shit
[2017-04-25 21:00:33] Tommy : What next level?
[2017-04-25 21:00:37] podizzle3k : nevermind
[2017-04-25 21:01:47] Tommy : Is it so hard to trade at the index price so you don't get charged swap?
[2017-04-25 21:02:21] Tommy : Not enough opposite side to counter the longs.
[2017-04-25 21:05:40] EastIndiaCompany : How much was BitMex paid to list and promote GNO?
[2017-04-25 21:06:09] rapidtrades : 57 BTCs!!!!!!!!!!!
[2017-04-25 21:06:15] hmmmYea : EastIndiaCompany: lol
[2017-04-25 21:06:47] hmmmYea : EastIndiaCompany: you can compute it yourself.. just multiply the volume by the fee table
[2017-04-25 21:06:56] proofOfTwerk : @EastIndiaCompany 0. they just open it up early and profit off the users
[2017-04-25 21:07:38] elmorte : Still, it's good publicity
[2017-04-25 21:07:39] rapidtrades : 0.0237 < is this the auction price?
[2017-04-25 21:08:03] elmorte : 30$, whatever that is in the coin you hate...
[2017-04-25 21:08:17] proofOfTwerk : rapidtrades: yes
[2017-04-25 21:08:23] rapidtrades : 785 m at current price
[2017-04-25 21:08:43] proofOfTwerk : completely overvalued
[2017-04-25 21:08:50] Tommy : How come the price at OKC is so low. It's totally the opposite of Bfx.
[2017-04-25 21:09:00] Tommy : Are people not worried about their money at OKC?
[2017-04-25 21:09:08] rapidtrades : bfx=scam
[2017-04-25 21:09:19] Tommy : so OKC=anti-scam?
[2017-04-25 21:09:30] proofOfTwerk : ..and OKC
[2017-04-25 21:09:42] NL007 : remember zec hitting 10
[2017-04-25 21:09:56] Tommy : How can OKC be still trading at 1226?
[2017-04-25 21:09:56] rapidtrades : but ZEC market cap never hit 785m?
[2017-04-25 21:10:05] kryptopojken : rapidtrades: not if you dont add the 99% tokens they've locked up
[2017-04-25 21:11:41] kryptopojken : how many tokens will be out on May 1st?
[2017-04-25 21:11:52] elmorte : none, it's a public holiday
[2017-04-25 21:11:59] lockhedge : Tommy: okc orderbook is almost empty, it currently takes less than 80 btc to push the price 4%
[2017-04-25 21:12:32] Dynamix : LTC breakout soon ...
[2017-04-25 21:12:45] proofOfTwerk : GNO should be at 0.2326
[2017-04-25 21:12:45] EastIndiaCompany : Yeah all the gambling has moved to JPY and until recently finex
[2017-04-25 21:13:00] EastIndiaCompany : Dynamix: segwit soon
[2017-04-25 21:13:11] Tommy : lockhedge: There are still robots trading there. My orders are still filled gradually at the current price with 0% fee.
[2017-04-25 21:13:39] EastIndiaCompany : proofOfTwerk: Fundamentally, GNO should be at 0. However, there is no knowing how many fools are willing to pay higher.
[2017-04-25 21:13:42] Dynamix : yarr
[2017-04-25 21:14:22] emcor : why would anyone pay 3x the auction price on the gnosis future
[2017-04-25 21:14:30] emcor : must be retar_ded
[2017-04-25 21:14:42] proofOfTwerk : EastIndiaCompany: i don't know about 0. it's a good project.. it's just not worth as much as people are valuing it right now
[2017-04-25 21:14:46] NL007 : EastIndiaCompany: we saw it with zec. Many underestimated how high the price would go. REKT!
[2017-04-25 21:15:37] Tommy : Maybe many people arbed between Bfx and OKC and now they have to unwind, causing OKC to be much lower.
[2017-04-25 21:15:38] Skyrik : Hpow much contracts was issued for GNO ?
[2017-04-25 21:15:58] kryptopojken : 1.5M I think
[2017-04-25 21:16:14] Skyrik : 1.5 mil what...
[2017-04-25 21:16:39] NL007 : 1.5 is wrong
[2017-04-25 21:17:03] Dynamix : hehe :D
[2017-04-25 21:17:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `LTC7D`: buy 2080 @ 0.01195
[2017-04-25 21:17:18] biz : lol shorting LTC before segwit activates
[2017-04-25 21:17:30] kryptopojken : NL007: how many then?
[2017-04-25 21:17:41] kryptopojken : I was talking about GNO tokens issued
[2017-04-25 21:17:42] EastIndiaCompany : proofOfTwerk: Bitcoin Hivemind is the only legit decentralized prediction market project. The other ones (augur gnosis) can't work (see truthcoin blog).
[2017-04-25 21:17:58] EastIndiaCompany : Here we g litecoin!
[2017-04-25 21:18:24] NL007 : kryptopojken: ok.
[2017-04-25 21:18:42] Skyrik : kryptopojken: and? total volume 1 972 contracts
[2017-04-25 21:18:52] Skyrik : kryptopojken: where is others contracts?)
[2017-04-25 21:19:00] kryptopojken : oh u meant contracts on bitmex
[2017-04-25 21:19:03] kryptopojken : i dont know about that
[2017-04-25 21:19:04] Skyrik : kryptopojken: yeap )
[2017-04-25 21:19:25] Dynamix : good I added more haha
[2017-04-25 21:20:04] podizzle3k : emcor because people are willing to pay 4x
[2017-04-25 21:20:55] MikeHunt : apparently france is about to elect a granny fker
[2017-04-25 21:21:58] EastIndiaCompany : MikeHunt: well they're French, what do you expect?
[2017-04-25 21:24:01] Ahhere : MikeHunt: lol are scandals coming out or his missus is old
[2017-04-25 21:29:49] Ahhere : Holy shit how do you fuck a woman 25 years older than you after about 20
[2017-04-25 21:30:36] rapidtrades : this is hilarious, a prediction market that's not even built yet is valued at close to 1b
[2017-04-25 21:30:37] MikeHunt : be like fking an old leather handbag
[2017-04-25 21:31:00] rapidtrades : MOVE OVER UBERS AND TESLAS OF THE WORLD
[2017-04-25 21:31:12] rapidtrades : THERE'S A NEW SCAM IN TOWN AND ITS CALLED CRYPTO
[2017-04-25 21:31:31] Skyrik : rapidtrades: Mcap is just 36 mil.
[2017-04-25 21:31:49] Skyrik : It's not doubler man..... Tokens locked on 1 year and min work "AT LEAST"
[2017-04-25 21:31:55] Skyrik : main word*
[2017-04-25 21:32:06] Ahhere : at this level crypto scams will burn out too fast like ebola
[2017-04-25 21:32:13] kryptopojken : Skyrik: 36? that cant be right
[2017-04-25 21:32:13] Skyrik : After they can sell 100k on market and lock token of 5 year ()
[2017-04-25 21:32:39] kryptopojken : afaik, 1.5M tokens were sold
[2017-04-25 21:32:45] kryptopojken : for around 30$ each
[2017-04-25 21:32:51] Actualiteit : where is bubba?
[2017-04-25 21:32:58] Actualiteit : were trading under mark price this is an outrage!
[2017-04-25 21:33:04] Skyrik : kryptopojken: 99% of unsold tokens LOCKEd they won't will be count in mcap as AMP
[2017-04-25 21:33:09] zqooN : Actualiteit: lol
[2017-04-25 21:33:10] Skyrik : kryptopojken: sold 441k+
[2017-04-25 21:33:19] Ahhere : Actualiteit: scam!
[2017-04-25 21:33:23] Skyrik : kryptopojken: others dev coins and they will lock them too
[2017-04-25 21:33:23] rapidtrades : doesn't matter if hey locked dummy
[2017-04-25 21:33:23] kryptopojken : Skyrik: u sure?
[2017-04-25 21:33:32] Skyrik : kryptopojken: yeap. I bought ico :D
[2017-04-25 21:33:42] rapidtrades : that's like saying if uber sells 100m in shares that's the market cap
[2017-04-25 21:33:50] kryptopojken : cuz I saw that they locked away around 8.5M tokens
[2017-04-25 21:33:53] rapidtrades : u calculate market cap based on shares outstanding
[2017-04-25 21:33:53] Skyrik : kryptopojken: you can check this on blockchain of course
[2017-04-25 21:33:55] EastIndiaCompany : In this kind of market even Onecoin could get a 1B+ marketcap
[2017-04-25 21:34:00] kryptopojken : and I believe totalt amount ICO was gonna be 10M?
[2017-04-25 21:34:25] Skyrik : kryptopojken: total amount on ico 9 mil. ( 1 mil for devs and dev foundation)
[2017-04-25 21:34:34] kryptopojken : ahh
[2017-04-25 21:34:38] kryptopojken : and they lock 8.5
[2017-04-25 21:34:44] rapidtrades : devs keep 95% of money, so in effect it is very close as a company having 1b valuation
[2017-04-25 21:34:46] kryptopojken : so 0.5x$30
[2017-04-25 21:34:49] mdsmm : wut Gnosis
[2017-04-25 21:34:51] Skyrik : kryptopojken: right
[2017-04-25 21:34:52] mdsmm : missed it
[2017-04-25 21:34:53] mdsmm : damm it
[2017-04-25 21:35:01] kryptopojken : Skyrik: glad im long then :D
[2017-04-25 21:35:10] Skyrik : kryptopojken: 31.6 $
[2017-04-25 21:35:12] Skyrik : )
[2017-04-25 21:35:26] rapidtrades : u wont be long for long, hope u have quick fomo fingers
[2017-04-25 21:35:51] kryptopojken : Skyrik: which gives us 31.6x500000 which is around 16M
[2017-04-25 21:35:55] kryptopojken : but u said 3.6
[2017-04-25 21:35:58] Skyrik : rapidtrades: My wife said that my fingers are the fastest on Wild West :D
[2017-04-25 21:36:30] rapidtrades : www.coindesk.com/ethereum-ico-irrationality-300-million-gnosis-valuation-sparks-market-concerns/
[2017-04-25 21:36:35] mdsmm : Skyrik: 2 secs of fame
[2017-04-25 21:36:47] Skyrik : kryptopojken: https://etherscan.io/token/Gnosis?a=0x1d0dcc8d8bcafa8e8502beaeef6cbd49d3affcdc
[2017-04-25 21:37:09] Skyrik : kryptopojken: 418,777.777777777777427493 Gnosis - [4.1878%] will be on public at launch
[2017-04-25 21:37:23] kryptopojken : yes
[2017-04-25 21:37:30] kryptopojken : take that, times 31.6
[2017-04-25 21:37:38] kryptopojken : and u get around 15M market cap
[2017-04-25 21:37:41] loomdart : when is next gno moon
[2017-04-25 21:37:41] kryptopojken : not 3.6
[2017-04-25 21:38:25] Skyrik : 13 233 000 maybe price was a little less but i know definitely that 31.+ $
[2017-04-25 21:38:41] Skyrik : loomdart: in 22 min
[2017-04-25 21:38:49] rapidtrades : the GNO market is too one-sided to make any real money being long
[2017-04-25 21:39:03] rapidtrades : shorts learned their lesson with ZEC
[2017-04-25 21:39:41] mdsmm : rapidtrades: meaning that in a positive or neg way for shorters
[2017-04-25 21:39:50] mdsmm : wasn't here on ZEC ico
[2017-04-25 21:40:09] Skyrik : zec hadn't ico :)
[2017-04-25 21:40:19] mdsmm : haha or beginning of zec
[2017-04-25 21:40:20] lrs13 : lol I got liquidated
[2017-04-25 21:40:23] lrs13 : What a fucking scam
[2017-04-25 21:40:38] mdsmm : dunno, don't know anything bout zec, just curious :D
[2017-04-25 21:40:44] lrs13 : Valuation of 600 million? Kidding?
[2017-04-25 21:40:45] rapidtrades : well ZEC peaked at 10 here and only stayed there because bitmex had a hard cap of 10 BTC which they refused to remove for days
[2017-04-25 21:40:49] biz : 20 minutes till the next round of GNO buying
[2017-04-25 21:41:29] rapidtrades : so that's another thing u need to worry about, how bitmex will handle any gray area calls since its a new market
[2017-04-25 21:42:05] lrs13 : Fuck this shit
[2017-04-25 21:42:16] mdsmm : hmm yeah, wasn't on my pc on every new round
[2017-04-25 21:42:26] mdsmm : wanted to buy some but had to prepare a pitch
[2017-04-25 21:42:32] lrs13 : THe people that actually believe gnosis is worth 600 million is completely fucking insane
[2017-04-25 21:42:52] mdsmm : seems pretty high for a valuat"ion atm
[2017-04-25 21:43:13] Kahir : yo
[2017-04-25 21:43:13] proofOfTwerk : "it's merely the latest case of speculation run amok"..
[2017-04-25 21:43:21] mdsmm : i'll see when there's more volume
[2017-04-25 21:43:30] mdsmm : don't like speculation tbh
[2017-04-25 21:43:45] mdsmm : overwatch it isssss
[2017-04-25 21:44:21] EastIndiaCompany : I think the catalyst event for the altcoin market to plummet is problems with Ethereum
[2017-04-25 21:44:35] EastIndiaCompany : Eth community seems key in the p&d
[2017-04-25 21:44:44] mdsmm : p&d?
[2017-04-25 21:44:48] EastIndiaCompany : pump and dump
[2017-04-25 21:44:53] mdsmm : aaa
[2017-04-25 21:44:59] mdsmm : aah*
[2017-04-25 21:45:08] mdsmm : I bought eth a long time ago
[2017-04-25 21:45:15] lrs13 : Gnosis is the biggest scam ever
[2017-04-25 21:45:15] mdsmm : they can do what they nt
[2017-04-25 21:45:20] mdsmm : want*
[2017-04-25 21:45:26] mdsmm : they made me a happy man already
[2017-04-25 21:45:31] EastIndiaCompany : mdsmm: until they go to jail
[2017-04-25 21:45:42] EastIndiaCompany : or get killed
[2017-04-25 21:45:50] mdsmm : I'l buy the jail with my eth
[2017-04-25 21:45:55] mdsmm : I'll*
[2017-04-25 21:46:09] EastIndiaCompany : Eth won't be worth anything if Vitalik goes to jail
[2017-04-25 21:46:54] mdsmm : we'll see!
[2017-04-25 21:46:57] mdsmm : where you guys from?
[2017-04-25 21:47:16] EastIndiaCompany : UK
[2017-04-25 21:47:39] mdsmm : London?
[2017-04-25 21:47:50] EastIndiaCompany : Cambridge
[2017-04-25 21:48:16] proofOfTwerk : lrs13: here's my list of dog poop: there's social security, payday loans, binary options, and gnosis
[2017-04-25 21:49:00] proofOfTwerk : what else should i add to my dog poop list?
[2017-04-25 21:49:06] Dnavid : /rekt
[2017-04-25 21:49:06] trollbot : ``` 3 recent REKTs > 100K: ``` ``` 10 hours, 20 mins ago: Liquidated short on `XBTM17`: buy 240468 @ 1285.3 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire: ``` ``` 11 hours, 4 mins ago: Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 160000 @ 1271.0 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished: ``` ``` 2 days, 18 hours, 24 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 118745 @ 1233.8 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished: ```
[2017-04-25 21:49:45] EastIndiaCompany : Gnosis: if it smell like shit, don't taste -- ViaBTC
[2017-04-25 21:49:53] rapidtrades : I wonder how long until the SEC starts to clamp down on these ICOs
[2017-04-25 21:50:14] EastIndiaCompany : rapidtrades: Once enough Americans lose a lot of money
[2017-04-25 21:50:20] rapidtrades : back in the day ppl thought the internet will be a lawless place forever
[2017-04-25 21:50:33] rapidtrades : then slowly they pilled on the regs
[2017-04-25 21:50:51] EastIndiaCompany : + they need to have enough evidence to prosecute the correct people (Vitalik, Stephen Tual, etc)
[2017-04-25 21:51:47] rapidtrades : most crypto ppl prolly don't pay taxes, so when they lose their gains here they don't advertise it much
[2017-04-25 21:51:59] Ahhere : rapidtrades: who went to jail for the netscape ipo?
[2017-04-25 21:52:00] rapidtrades : prolly why most didn't sue bitfinex
[2017-04-25 21:52:16] EastIndiaCompany : BFX is also not in the USA