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[2023-04-02 22:05:26] HuskySquared : clarknova: also that, harder to verify gold
[2023-04-02 22:05:39] DarthBerner : problem is
[2023-04-02 22:05:46] HuskySquared : Pulsar: inflation is way above 6%
[2023-04-02 22:05:55] DarthBerner : robots will leave 70% of ppl jobless in a decade imo
[2023-04-02 22:06:01] clarknova : HuskySquared: chinese are very good at forging gold ingots
[2023-04-02 22:06:13] DarthBerner : world is getting brutal
[2023-04-02 22:06:26] DarthBerner : not a good time to be without principles
[2023-04-02 22:06:27] Pulsar : let's say it's 10% YoY and not 6%as reported... gold has still done a way better job at protecting your wealth compared to bitcoin in the same period
[2023-04-02 22:06:42] DarthBerner : also good reason to buy gold ..
[2023-04-02 22:06:46] DarthBerner : besides inflation ..
[2023-04-02 22:06:55] DarthBerner : chips for war and ai ..
[2023-04-02 22:07:00] dsadd : clarknova: what you want me to see? \
[2023-04-02 22:07:02] DarthBerner : also a collpasing dollar
[2023-04-02 22:07:06] DarthBerner : makes more demand for gold ..
[2023-04-02 22:07:16] DarthBerner : globally ..
[2023-04-02 22:07:50] SonJulNam2-2 : we losing bitc
[2023-04-02 22:07:54] DarthBerner : i think rally is possible but its very anti climatic imo
[2023-04-02 22:08:00] HuskySquared : Pulsar: dont ge tme wrong i like gold i just think comparison is lacking
[2023-04-02 22:08:03] DarthBerner : all that fkin brics news
[2023-04-02 22:08:07] DarthBerner : and inflation prints
[2023-04-02 22:08:15] DarthBerner : and its failing to rally over 10 days?
[2023-04-02 22:08:18] clarknova : dsadd: 28k back in less than a handfull of hours
[2023-04-02 22:08:21] DarthBerner : seems weak asf
[2023-04-02 22:08:37] dsadd : clarknova: check nasdaq open
[2023-04-02 22:08:39] DarthBerner : whats the time
[2023-04-02 22:08:41] DarthBerner : look daily
[2023-04-02 22:09:18] DarthBerner : even the elon musk tweet wasnt bought
[2023-04-02 22:09:30] DarthBerner : i think people are tight on cash due to hikes
[2023-04-02 22:09:35] DarthBerner : and now this dollar bs
[2023-04-02 22:10:55] clarknova : dsadd: on what exchange ?
[2023-04-02 22:11:07] HuskySquared : clarknova: lol
[2023-04-02 22:11:10] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 200 USD @ 27899.5
[2023-04-02 22:11:20] DarthBerner : glad i shorted like fk
[2023-04-02 22:11:24] DarthBerner : anyways later gents
[2023-04-02 22:11:37] HuskySquared : DarthBerner: dont be too happy about it yet
[2023-04-02 22:11:44] DarthBerner : HuskySquared: yes not yet mate
[2023-04-02 22:11:45] dsadd : clarknova: on google
[2023-04-02 22:11:50] DarthBerner : another few hours lmao ..
[2023-04-02 22:11:54] DarthBerner : when that profit is green green
[2023-04-02 22:12:02] HuskySquared : DarthBerner: wheres your liq
[2023-04-02 22:12:18] DarthBerner : HuskySquared: got to let it marrinate for you slowbos
[2023-04-02 22:12:22] DarthBerner : lol jk xD
[2023-04-02 22:12:53] DarthBerner : HuskySquared: i closed
[2023-04-02 22:12:58] DarthBerner : scalp
[2023-04-02 22:12:58] HuskySquared : lol
[2023-04-02 22:13:00] dsadd : clarknova: https://www.tradingview.com/x/46UUHYoh/
[2023-04-02 22:13:30] DarthBerner : yea i was long since 24k @HuskySquared
[2023-04-02 22:13:34] HuskySquared : 100,000,000 #USDT (100,066,000 USD) transferred from unknown wallet to #Bitfinex
[2023-04-02 22:13:36] DarthBerner : but we not making any moves
[2023-04-02 22:13:41] DarthBerner : with all that bull news
[2023-04-02 22:13:44] DarthBerner : so im to scared
[2023-04-02 22:13:46] clarknova : dsadd: - 0.4% ?
[2023-04-02 22:13:46] DarthBerner : im out
[2023-04-02 22:13:48] HuskySquared : thats a real tx
[2023-04-02 22:13:54] dsadd : bye bye 28k
[2023-04-02 22:13:54] DarthBerner : will fk aroudn till then
[2023-04-02 22:14:03] DarthBerner : HuskySquared: lol why no perp
[2023-04-02 22:14:08] dsadd : clarknova: its about the open. momentum and who is winning
[2023-04-02 22:14:17] clarknova : dsadd: let see
[2023-04-02 22:14:30] dsadd : /position xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: -10,000 USD @ 29023 ```
[2023-04-02 22:14:34] DarthBerner : wick to 27500 maybe
[2023-04-02 22:14:43] DarthBerner : dsadd: lol hows the sleep going?
[2023-04-02 22:14:46] Pulsar : oil up 7% lol
[2023-04-02 22:14:52] HuskySquared : Pulsar: lol
[2023-04-02 22:15:06] HuskySquared : market smelled blood
[2023-04-02 22:15:10] HuskySquared : re US banking system
[2023-04-02 22:15:17] clarknova : HuskySquared: twice in 3 minutes https://twitter.com/whale_alert
[2023-04-02 22:15:22] dsadd : DarthBerner: im going soon i dont need to stare at chart today. stop is set on entry i dont care if i get 0 from now
[2023-04-02 22:15:23] HuskySquared : either force bank to hike more and kil lbanks
[2023-04-02 22:15:36] HuskySquared : or lower hikes and also dead
[2023-04-02 22:15:37] Pulsar : they'll continue hiking alright
[2023-04-02 22:15:39] HuskySquared : thats why USD is fucked
[2023-04-02 22:15:49] HuskySquared : other economic players noticed they have a shot at killing US
[2023-04-02 22:15:52] HuskySquared : and they will take it
[2023-04-02 22:15:52] DarthBerner : dsadd: noice
[2023-04-02 22:16:10] clarknova : HuskySquared: and that's why wallstreet gonna pump
[2023-04-02 22:16:14] Pulsar : dsadd: nice short
[2023-04-02 22:16:19] HuskySquared : clarknova: everything will because the USD dies
[2023-04-02 22:16:27] DarthBerner : yea im not longing here yet
[2023-04-02 22:16:29] clarknova : HuskySquared: I think so too
[2023-04-02 22:16:29] DarthBerner : fk that sht
[2023-04-02 22:16:50] HuskySquared : clarknova: but its really just about that
[2023-04-02 22:16:56] HuskySquared : economic forces noticed they can hurt US
[2023-04-02 22:16:58] HuskySquared : and they will
[2023-04-02 22:17:04] DarthBerner : i might long 27500
[2023-04-02 22:17:09] SangFrais : HuskySquared: who, china?
[2023-04-02 22:17:14] clarknova : HuskySquared: and it gonna be ugly
[2023-04-02 22:17:15] HuskySquared : SangFrais: everybody
[2023-04-02 22:17:17] DarthBerner : maybe ..
[2023-04-02 22:17:27] HuskySquared : SangFrais: OPEC thing is purely focussed on that
[2023-04-02 22:17:32] HuskySquared : its going to fuck the US
[2023-04-02 22:17:43] HuskySquared : because it counteracts inflation efforts by the fed
[2023-04-02 22:17:45] HuskySquared : so what it means is
[2023-04-02 22:17:53] HuskySquared : a) fed does hike more -> banks collapse
[2023-04-02 22:18:04] HuskySquared : b) fed doesn't hike more -> also collapses
[2023-04-02 22:18:08] HuskySquared : its over
[2023-04-02 22:18:15] top kitten : HuskySquared: I work in the oil sector of a non OPEC country. But my gov't is retarded 😔
[2023-04-02 22:18:43] HuskySquared : people noticed now that the US financial system bleeds
[2023-04-02 22:18:48] HuskySquared : and that means it can be killed
[2023-04-02 22:18:54] DarthBerner : 27 500
[2023-04-02 22:18:57] RonnieREKT : 🔥 Liquidated long on `DOGEUSD`: Sell 494 Cont @ 0.07836 ($1,080.43)
[2023-04-02 22:19:02] DarthBerner : 27 500
[2023-04-02 22:19:18] DarthBerner : imo .
[2023-04-02 22:19:21] gaferreira : hello sirs long or short
[2023-04-02 22:19:24] HuskySquared : so US not only will havea fucked economy
[2023-04-02 22:19:26] HuskySquared : it will have a dead currency
[2023-04-02 22:19:28] HuskySquared : etc
[2023-04-02 22:19:31] DarthBerner : sexy scalps
[2023-04-02 22:19:33] SangFrais : HuskySquared: like schwarzenegger vs predator?
[2023-04-02 22:19:35] DarthBerner : got to have exposure though mate
[2023-04-02 22:19:37] HuskySquared : and the next economic superpower in line can still do easing
[2023-04-02 22:19:45] HuskySquared : since china is at 1% inflation
[2023-04-02 22:19:48] DarthBerner : i mean if it go to 20k
[2023-04-02 22:19:48] dsadd : why bulls are always bulls? isnt better be bear? sell high buy low?
[2023-04-02 22:19:48] HuskySquared : so they can support their economy
[2023-04-02 22:19:55] DarthBerner : and you have 0 exposure
[2023-04-02 22:19:56] HuskySquared : which is going to fuck the US up more
[2023-04-02 22:19:57] Pulsar : HuskySquared: still maintain my stance that they'll sacrifice the banking system for the dollar
[2023-04-02 22:19:58] DarthBerner : no no no
[2023-04-02 22:20:00] SangFrais : USA has many tricks up their sleeve
[2023-04-02 22:20:11] HuskySquared : SangFrais: no, they do not
[2023-04-02 22:20:31] clarknova : dsadd: watch the whole history chart of BTC you'll understand
[2023-04-02 22:20:33] HuskySquared : dont rule out incompetence when its the simplest answer
[2023-04-02 22:20:51] HuskySquared : people keep thinking that 'gov has something up its sleeve'
[2023-04-02 22:20:53] HuskySquared : its wrong tbh
[2023-04-02 22:21:01] HuskySquared : its run by incompetent fucks and thats why it will fail, simple
[2023-04-02 22:21:03] dsadd : clarknova: lol im not in love in 10 year chart. i just trade propabilities and liquidity
[2023-04-02 22:21:26] HuskySquared : because western govs traded competence for ideology
[2023-04-02 22:21:28] HuskySquared : and ideology always fails
[2023-04-02 22:21:31] dsadd : clarknova: maybe your smigul love to coin is making u unable to change bias
[2023-04-02 22:21:35] SangFrais : HuskySquared: def agree with that incompetence
[2023-04-02 22:21:36] clarknova : dsadd: I've got patience. Il play the long run
[2023-04-02 22:21:42] clarknova : dsadd: always low lev
[2023-04-02 22:21:44] dsadd : clarknova: this way you never book your profit
[2023-04-02 22:21:46] gaferreira : HuskySquared: they're not incompetent mate, not at all
[2023-04-02 22:21:54] gaferreira : they know exactly what they're doing
[2023-04-02 22:21:54] HuskySquared : gaferreira: okay
[2023-04-02 22:22:07] gaferreira : that's the hard to swallow part tho
[2023-04-02 22:22:14] clarknova : dsadd: I do. Not enough but I do.
[2023-04-02 22:22:26] dsadd : clarknova: yes i play longs low lev as well. only shorts x25. when they are winners i change for x100 and move stop under liq. then brake even
[2023-04-02 22:22:30] DarthBerner : anyways gl
[2023-04-02 22:22:33] DarthBerner : Zzzz
[2023-04-02 22:22:39] DarthBerner : been good as usual
[2023-04-02 22:22:58] DarthBerner : later boys keep punching liberals and brainwashing non hodlers
[2023-04-02 22:23:03] SangFrais : HuskySquared: the people in the limelight are def incompetent but theres a lot of smart people working behind the scenes with countless schemes up their sleeves
[2023-04-02 22:23:11] clarknova : dsadd: I do x5 when I'm in kamikaze mode
[2023-04-02 22:23:17] HuskySquared : SangFrais: yea but thats a failing narrative without proof
[2023-04-02 22:23:25] HuskySquared : its just the myth of some smart government behind etc
[2023-04-02 22:23:30] dsadd : clarknova: x5 is my max as well
[2023-04-02 22:23:34] dsadd : for long side
[2023-04-02 22:23:45] clarknova : dsadd: interesting
[2023-04-02 22:23:54] HuskySquared : its a much more simple explanation that people are just incompetent, government bodies in western nations degrading over time due to the degratory effect on democracies over time
[2023-04-02 22:23:58] bitcoincansmd : it was a ggs for aprils fools ggs
[2023-04-02 22:24:06] gaferreira : HuskySquared: yes husky one thing you're very right is that US has a lot of enemies and they aren't dumb either
[2023-04-02 22:24:06] HuskySquared : its no conspiracy either
[2023-04-02 22:24:17] HuskySquared : it is a problem in governance model
[2023-04-02 22:24:25] dsadd : theres no need risk more. and longs liqs are more agressive than short liq @clarknova
[2023-04-02 22:24:30] HuskySquared : democratic systems over time always trend towards zero in terms of competence
[2023-04-02 22:24:33] HuskySquared : due to how they work
[2023-04-02 22:24:36] HuskySquared : no way around it
[2023-04-02 22:25:31] HuskySquared : because by the structure it creates very hard to pass barrier of entry, inevitably ideology/populist driven decision making processes
[2023-04-02 22:25:41] HuskySquared : to cater to majority of voters
[2023-04-02 22:25:49] HuskySquared : as struggles drop, competence drops
[2023-04-02 22:26:04] HuskySquared : and then you get into shit times
[2023-04-02 22:26:14] SangFrais : HuskySquared: you spittin some hard facts tonight did you eat some red m&m's?
[2023-04-02 22:26:14] HuskySquared : take autocratic systems as comparison, those are coin tosses
[2023-04-02 22:26:23] HuskySquared : you either get poop or good
[2023-04-02 22:26:30] gaferreira : kek red m&ms
[2023-04-02 22:26:51] HuskySquared : but thats the main reasons behind it, no need for some dep state conspiracies, etc
[2023-04-02 22:26:54] HuskySquared : world isnt that complicated
[2023-04-02 22:26:56] HuskySquared : we just like to think it is
[2023-04-02 22:27:05] HuskySquared : because we humans like to think that someone has a clue
[2023-04-02 22:27:09] HuskySquared : while the reality is, nobody does
[2023-04-02 22:27:49] blueballsmaster : double bottom
[2023-04-02 22:27:54] blueballsmaster : :kek:
[2023-04-02 22:27:58] HuskySquared : but yea
[2023-04-02 22:28:04] HuskySquared : really nothing else to it
[2023-04-02 22:29:51] gaferreira : yeah its dumb how many ppl think they know whats happening
[2023-04-02 22:29:55] gaferreira : or that stuff is ok
[2023-04-02 22:30:21] gaferreira : anyways you're still long mate right
[2023-04-02 22:30:26] HuskySquared : of course
[2023-04-02 22:30:29] gaferreira : nice
[2023-04-02 22:30:29] HuskySquared : /pnl xbtusd ``` :bitmex: XBTUSD: 15.5840 XBT RPNL, 52.5626 XBT UPNL ```
[2023-04-02 22:30:38] HuskySquared : its not like i dont put my money where my mouth is
[2023-04-02 22:30:41] gaferreira : yeah
[2023-04-02 22:31:00] blueballsmaster : boss
[2023-04-02 22:31:02] HuskySquared : i just believe from my experience with a ton of people in different industries, governments, etc
[2023-04-02 22:31:07] HuskySquared : incompetence is really the most likely explanation
[2023-04-02 22:31:14] HuskySquared : as is the decay in democratic governance models over time
[2023-04-02 22:31:16] gaferreira : you're a thinking of everything kinda guy?
[2023-04-02 22:31:22] HuskySquared : no
[2023-04-02 22:31:34] HuskySquared : i just spit thoughts i come up with randomly in trollbox
[2023-04-02 22:31:40] HuskySquared : i do think they make sense though
[2023-04-02 22:31:54] gaferreira : lol yeah but those thoughts involve knowledge in a lot of different topics
[2023-04-02 22:32:06] HuskySquared : and then when im wrong i will go away, fap to some weird porn and go to sleep feeling sad
[2023-04-02 22:32:07] HuskySquared : :pepe:
[2023-04-02 22:32:28] HuskySquared : gaferreira: aspergers does that
[2023-04-02 22:33:03] gaferreira : lol cant fap when im sad
[2023-04-02 22:33:09] SangFrais : HuskySquared: love asparagus
[2023-04-02 22:33:13] HuskySquared : mmmm
[2023-04-02 22:33:15] gaferreira : u have aspergers
[2023-04-02 22:33:18] gaferreira : ?
[2023-04-02 22:33:25] HuskySquared : gaferreira: no idea
[2023-04-02 22:33:31] HuskySquared : self diagnostics say probably
[2023-04-02 22:33:35] SangFrais : he has assburgers
[2023-04-02 22:33:38] gaferreira : yeah might just be the GMOs messing with your head
[2023-04-02 22:33:43] HuskySquared : GMOs?
[2023-04-02 22:33:53] gaferreira : genetically modified food
[2023-04-02 22:33:59] HuskySquared : more like the :vaccine:
[2023-04-02 22:34:08] gaferreira : or that
[2023-04-02 22:34:08] SangFrais : lol did u take the vax
[2023-04-02 22:34:12] gaferreira : i think gmos are much worse tho
[2023-04-02 22:34:13] HuskySquared : SangFrais: no choice
[2023-04-02 22:34:14] bitcoincansmd : yall didnt hit up the ol vaxerooni did yous
[2023-04-02 22:34:18] HuskySquared : travel too much to countries that require it
[2023-04-02 22:34:20] SangFrais : HuskySquared: sad pepe
[2023-04-02 22:34:21] bitcoincansmd : kinel
[2023-04-02 22:34:26] HuskySquared : or well
[2023-04-02 22:34:28] HuskySquared : thats actually not true
[2023-04-02 22:34:38] HuskySquared : i think i was actually
[2023-04-02 22:34:41] HuskySquared : socially pressured into it
[2023-04-02 22:34:50] gaferreira : well at the time it was hard to discern what would be the better choice
[2023-04-02 22:34:54] HuskySquared : oh no
[2023-04-02 22:34:55] HuskySquared : not true
[2023-04-02 22:34:59] HuskySquared : taking the vax was 100% the wrong choice
[2023-04-02 22:35:01] HuskySquared : even obvious back then
[2023-04-02 22:35:06] HuskySquared : lmao
[2023-04-02 22:35:07] HuskySquared : lets be real
[2023-04-02 22:35:14] HuskySquared : we did it anyways
[2023-04-02 22:35:17] HuskySquared : because fuck it, let it run
[2023-04-02 22:35:18] gaferreira : eh when they released them i was ok sure for some time
[2023-04-02 22:35:28] HuskySquared : didnt play deus ex or
[2023-04-02 22:35:43] gaferreira : then i started doubting and suspecting
[2023-04-02 22:35:49] gaferreira : fortunately i only had 1 from jansen
[2023-04-02 22:35:54] SangFrais : HuskySquared: the thing thats amazing is that only the US is asking questions about how they handled covid and pressured people into taking the vaccine but in europe the government is silent
[2023-04-02 22:35:56] HuskySquared : i had 4
[2023-04-02 22:36:04] HuskySquared : rekt
[2023-04-02 22:36:11] HuskySquared : pfizer two times
[2023-04-02 22:36:16] HuskySquared : sinovac two times
[2023-04-02 22:36:19] gaferreira : damn be careful with the fridge door :kek:
[2023-04-02 22:36:37] gaferreira : u might stick to it
[2023-04-02 22:36:39] HuskySquared : had to get sinovac due asia travels
[2023-04-02 22:36:40] SangFrais : rip
[2023-04-02 22:36:46] HuskySquared : due business rip
[2023-04-02 22:36:55] gaferreira : yeah forcing vaccines is so fucked tho
[2023-04-02 22:36:58] bitcoincansmd : bro just go off sick for a year
[2023-04-02 22:37:02] HuskySquared : lol
[2023-04-02 22:37:17] gaferreira : you could make up some excuses like needle phobia or smth
[2023-04-02 22:37:17] clarknova : dsadd: yes, because we're on an uptrend
[2023-04-02 22:37:20] SangFrais : smoke a couple cartons of cigarettes it will cure you from the vaccine
[2023-04-02 22:37:24] clarknova : HuskySquared: https://twitter.com/unusual_whales/status/1642347869880590336
[2023-04-02 22:37:38] HuskySquared : clarknova: yea
[2023-04-02 22:38:01] HuskySquared : gaferreira: lol mate haha, i cant just stop running business
[2023-04-02 22:38:14] gaferreira : oh u had to be there
[2023-04-02 22:38:16] ointerMC : clarknova: was expecting pics of actual unusual whales :(
[2023-04-02 22:38:20] gaferreira : damn thats so fucked
[2023-04-02 22:38:26] clarknova : ointerMC: hahaha
[2023-04-02 22:38:39] ointerMC : HuskySquared: could you not get the better 'merican vacs?
[2023-04-02 22:38:50] HuskySquared : i got pfizer one
[2023-04-02 22:39:02] HuskySquared : but if you wanted to travel to big C you need sinovac one
[2023-04-02 22:39:03] ointerMC : o thought sinovac meant chinese vac
[2023-04-02 22:39:06] ointerMC : lmao
[2023-04-02 22:39:09] HuskySquared : it is
[2023-04-02 22:39:12] ointerMC : thats messed
[2023-04-02 22:39:19] HuskySquared : took some effort t oget it too because
[2023-04-02 22:39:23] ointerMC : stupid, sinovac is less effective
[2023-04-02 22:39:24] HuskySquared : its not allowed in europe
[2023-04-02 22:39:43] HuskySquared : had to get additional residencies and shit in other countries lmao
[2023-04-02 22:39:47] gaferreira : ointerMC: is it? :kek:
[2023-04-02 22:39:55] ointerMC : gaferreira: believe so
[2023-04-02 22:39:56] gaferreira : depends on what you want from it :kek:
[2023-04-02 22:40:05] HuskySquared : pretty sure i will have two dicks
[2023-04-02 22:40:08] HuskySquared : in 5 years
[2023-04-02 22:40:13] clarknova : ahahha
[2023-04-02 22:40:20] gaferreira : lets hope the 2nd one just doesnt grow on your face
[2023-04-02 22:40:24] gaferreira : or smth
[2023-04-02 22:40:27] ointerMC : HuskySquared: well actually one intended side effect is increaed fertility as china has pop growth prob
[2023-04-02 22:40:34] clarknova : gaferreira: XD
[2023-04-02 22:40:35] top kitten : When oil settlements in bitcoin?
[2023-04-02 22:40:46] HuskySquared : soon
[2023-04-02 22:40:50] HuskySquared : i wonder when US wakes up to
[2023-04-02 22:40:54] gaferreira : could be in june
[2023-04-02 22:40:57] HuskySquared : irrelevancy
[2023-04-02 22:41:08] gaferreira : russia said it would settle some commerce in bitcoin starting june
[2023-04-02 22:41:16] gaferreira : HuskySquared: very soon mate
[2023-04-02 22:41:49] SangFrais : gaferreira: what commerce
[2023-04-02 22:41:54] HuskySquared : SangFrais: nukes
[2023-04-02 22:41:57] SangFrais : lol
[2023-04-02 22:41:57] HuskySquared : :arthur:
[2023-04-02 22:42:29] SangFrais : russian companies trying to buy stuff in europe saying they will pay in euros in advance still getting denied service
[2023-04-02 22:44:58] gaferreira : SangFrais: idk they didnt specify
[2023-04-02 22:45:17] wassa_wassa_bitconee : Never above 28k ever again
[2023-04-02 22:46:03] SangFrais : ghost recon future soldier/battlefield 3 storyline seems pretty realistic now
[2023-04-02 22:46:16] SangFrais : first iran then russia
[2023-04-02 22:46:23] SangFrais : china comes in with battlefield 4
[2023-04-02 22:46:25] HuskySquared : i miss battlefield 2
[2023-04-02 22:46:40] SangFrais : yeah bf2 project reality lol
[2023-04-02 22:46:47] HuskySquared : bf2 was fun game
[2023-04-02 22:47:05] gaferreira : soon you'll play it in VR full dolby surround
[2023-04-02 22:47:18] Pulsar : bad company 2 was the best imo
[2023-04-02 22:47:21] SangFrais : best of its time but before battlefield 2 it was all about joint operations typhoon rising
[2023-04-02 22:48:11] SangFrais : before project reality
[2023-04-02 22:49:24] HuskySquared : bears dont have much time left
[2023-04-02 22:49:40] HuskySquared : 3 hours till hang seng opens
[2023-04-02 22:49:42] Pulsar : HuskySquared: just wanted to give my 2 cents on what you were saying earlier about the US government not having a clue what they're doing...
[2023-04-02 22:49:52] HuskySquared : Pulsar: sure, go ahead
[2023-04-02 22:51:00] Pulsar : as an example, when you look at the food and pharmaceutical industries in the US there seems to be fairly deliberate and complex things done to ensure they make huge profits
[2023-04-02 22:51:06] gaferreira : 3 hours til CZ wakes up to 20 btches sucking his hang dong
[2023-04-02 22:51:22] Pulsar : there are definitely some powerful people with a lot of money who are pushing a certain narrative
[2023-04-02 22:51:28] clarknova : lol
[2023-04-02 22:51:28] HuskySquared : Pulsar: 100%
[2023-04-02 22:51:37] HuskySquared : as in all industries
[2023-04-02 22:51:46] HuskySquared : heck, i also push narratives
[2023-04-02 22:52:05] Pulsar : these industries basically control the population
[2023-04-02 22:52:55] gaferreira : HuskySquared: how does it favor you if btc pumps, indirectly
[2023-04-02 22:53:05] Pulsar : people at the fed aren't stupid, they know the dollar/the economy is nearing the end of the road
[2023-04-02 22:53:11] HuskySquared : gaferreira: doesnt, thats just a belief thing
[2023-04-02 22:53:18] HuskySquared : for me it doesnt matter either way
[2023-04-02 22:53:20] HuskySquared : i just like it
[2023-04-02 22:53:30] HuskySquared : life doesnt change if we go to 0 either
[2023-04-02 22:53:49] HuskySquared : i would get a kick out of it though to see the US empire fail
[2023-04-02 22:53:50] Pulsar : the sudden rush to create CBDC's to me seems like a deliberate play to hedge a banking collapse
[2023-04-02 22:54:13] HuskySquared : i dont do well with bs and US is full on bs
[2023-04-02 22:54:28] gaferreira : HuskySquared: are you also litecoin gang?
[2023-04-02 22:54:32] HuskySquared : nope
[2023-04-02 22:54:50] gaferreira : you should consider it, safer and good pumps too
[2023-04-02 22:54:54] HuskySquared : i dont see any real use case for other than bitcoin, since the main value proposition is same and bitcoin has biggest liquidity
[2023-04-02 22:54:57] HuskySquared : so no need for anybody to move from it
[2023-04-02 22:55:07] gaferreira : i mean for trading :P
[2023-04-02 22:55:22] HuskySquared : im no trader tho
[2023-04-02 22:55:32] HuskySquared : im perma bull
[2023-04-02 22:55:33] gaferreira : oh rly?
[2023-04-02 22:55:34] gaferreira : cool
[2023-04-02 22:55:56] HuskySquared : 0% clue on trading, charts, whatever
[2023-04-02 22:55:59] gaferreira : ltc also usually moves before btc and could be useful to gauge the market
[2023-04-02 22:56:04] gaferreira : okok sure
[2023-04-02 22:56:10] HuskySquared : im not joking
[2023-04-02 22:56:11] HuskySquared : lol
[2023-04-02 22:56:16] gaferreira : no i believe :P
[2023-04-02 22:56:54] SangFrais : i vote for war with Iran before dollar collapses (secret info).. Israel is already preparing for war since they are getting bored of killing arabs in refugee camps
[2023-04-02 22:57:19] HuskySquared : wont happen
[2023-04-02 22:57:28] HuskySquared : china is going to squash any war efforts with sheer economic support
[2023-04-02 22:57:32] Dario2 : HuskySquared: exactly +1
[2023-04-02 22:57:50] HuskySquared : war is the only thing thats good for US
[2023-04-02 22:57:57] HuskySquared : so china is power of peace to prevent it
[2023-04-02 22:58:06] HuskySquared : as that plays into their hand
[2023-04-02 22:58:07] SangFrais : HuskySquared: but Iran is not an ally of China... iran is only allied with russia
[2023-04-02 22:58:08] Dario2 : SangFrais: Also Iran has hypersonic rockets now. good luck with that
[2023-04-02 22:58:14] HuskySquared : SangFrais: nope, iran is allied with china
[2023-04-02 22:58:19] gaferreira : physical war doesnt matter anymore as most world powers are fully capable of destroying the planet
[2023-04-02 22:58:26] gaferreira : what matters is economical and social
[2023-04-02 22:58:33] gaferreira : population and GDP
[2023-04-02 22:58:40] HuskySquared : SangFrais: china literally helped saudi/iran relations recently
[2023-04-02 22:58:45] HuskySquared : its all setting up for becoming peace power
[2023-04-02 22:58:51] HuskySquared : since the only way the US can still win is war
[2023-04-02 22:58:55] HuskySquared : economically its done
[2023-04-02 22:59:02] HuskySquared : so now just need to ensure no war, no support for war by people
[2023-04-02 22:59:03] HuskySquared : etc
[2023-04-02 22:59:14] HuskySquared : the worst thing that could happen for asia geopolitically is war now/supporting war
[2023-04-02 22:59:22] HuskySquared : so everything will be done to appease countries that may want to wage war
[2023-04-02 22:59:23] HuskySquared : to not do it
[2023-04-02 22:59:26] SangFrais : HuskySquared: hm maybe you are right but still israel is the wild car in the middle east like NK is in asia
[2023-04-02 22:59:32] SangFrais : card
[2023-04-02 22:59:52] HuskySquared : SangFrais: i deal with massive amount of israeli people on daily basis
[2023-04-02 22:59:57] HuskySquared : nobody is in support of the stuff there
[2023-04-02 22:59:58] gaferreira : israel is isolated yes, i bet the other countries around it are too afraid to touch israel
[2023-04-02 22:59:58] SangFrais : that nethanhuhu guy is pretty war hungry
[2023-04-02 23:00:12] HuskySquared : will be toppled
[2023-04-02 23:00:16] HuskySquared : tbh
[2023-04-02 23:00:17] Pulsar : HuskySquared: US is still one of the most technologically advanced countries in the world, still at the forefront of most research
[2023-04-02 23:00:27] gaferreira : israel is the world powerhouse in tech and war research
[2023-04-02 23:00:40] gaferreira : others dont even dare lay a finger on it
[2023-04-02 23:01:42] Pulsar : China and US are by far the largest prublishers of scientific publications
[2023-04-02 23:01:56] HuskySquared : https://www.investing.com/analysis/us-dollar-stares-into-the-abyss-200636819
[2023-04-02 23:02:07] HuskySquared : Pulsar: biggest economies, most stuff
[2023-04-02 23:02:09] HuskySquared : its not a surprise
[2023-04-02 23:02:09] HuskySquared : or so
[2023-04-02 23:02:10] HuskySquared : lol
[2023-04-02 23:03:05] top kitten : I think it's safe to say we're mooning and you can long with high lev
[2023-04-02 23:03:07] Pulsar : HuskySquared: my point is, you're trying to make out the US is a doomed country and it's got nothing going for it... there's still lots of pockets of the country that are thriving
[2023-04-02 23:03:37] HuskySquared : Pulsar: of course
[2023-04-02 23:03:47] HuskySquared : im saying its doomed because they cannot undo the damage done to their monetary system
[2023-04-02 23:04:03] HuskySquared : and the decline in their governance model, split in faith of the population
[2023-04-02 23:04:15] HuskySquared : all factors that do not help sustained growth moving forward
[2023-04-02 23:04:35] HuskySquared : and all things that china does not have to deal with at this stage
[2023-04-02 23:04:54] HuskySquared : which allows them to move quicker on topics, advance quicker, et
[2023-04-02 23:04:55] HuskySquared : etc
[2023-04-02 23:05:00] SangFrais : HuskySquared: i met some israeli people in cyprus too but just like the USA i met some soldiers at the airport in atlanta in 2008 who were opposed to the war waiting for their flight to iraq.. people cant agree but they will still go to war and iraq is a good example
[2023-04-02 23:05:13] Pulsar : you could argue China has some huge economic issues
[2023-04-02 23:05:15] HuskySquared : SangFrais: israel thing is bit different
[2023-04-02 23:05:26] HuskySquared : Pulsar: can you
[2023-04-02 23:05:44] HuskySquared : the US issues are very plain for all to see, what are the issues you see re China
[2023-04-02 23:05:50] HuskySquared : (genuinely curious)
[2023-04-02 23:05:54] Pulsar : property market it massively inflated, population growth is coming to a halt
[2023-04-02 23:06:04] HuskySquared : ok, as in all countries
[2023-04-02 23:06:28] HuskySquared : will cause a problem of course, but likely manageable especially since they saw what happened on the US collapses in the past
[2023-04-02 23:06:35] HuskySquared : so likely will be handled differently
[2023-04-02 23:06:52] Pulsar : If the US enters a depression or even collapse as you say, the whole world will be fucked
[2023-04-02 23:06:57] Pulsar : not just the US
[2023-04-02 23:07:11] HuskySquared : which is why people move away from exposure to the US atm yea
[2023-04-02 23:07:22] HuskySquared : it will obviously still hurt
[2023-04-02 23:07:28] HuskySquared : but thats how global world works
[2023-04-02 23:07:31] HuskySquared : doesnt mean people will manage
[2023-04-02 23:07:40] Pulsar : I agree
[2023-04-02 23:07:53] Pulsar : I'm saying this from the UK, and I think we're doubly fucked
[2023-04-02 23:08:00] SangFrais : HuskySquared: with massive debt in dollars as countless countries are what else are they going to move to
[2023-04-02 23:08:12] SangFrais : china is the #1 holder of US dollars
[2023-04-02 23:08:21] HuskySquared : dump the treasuries
[2023-04-02 23:08:26] HuskySquared : effectively kills the US
[2023-04-02 23:08:51] HuskySquared : sure not great for anybody
[2023-04-02 23:08:54] HuskySquared : but is what it is
[2023-04-02 23:09:00] HuskySquared : move to gold, bitcoin, BRICscoin
[2023-04-02 23:09:04] HuskySquared : etc
[2023-04-02 23:09:38] SangFrais : would be interesting
[2023-04-02 23:09:46] HuskySquared : SangFrais: https://ticdata.treasury.gov/Publish/mfh.txt
[2023-04-02 23:09:50] HuskySquared : is already happening
[2023-04-02 23:09:55] Pulsar : thing is, will all this talk about depressions and collapses... at the end of the day bitcoin or even gold is only going to be a little bonus... mentally it's going to be incredibly difficult
[2023-04-02 23:10:20] Pulsar : even for the most level headed of people
[2023-04-02 23:11:01] HuskySquared : nearly 200b reduction in treasury securites held by china
[2023-04-02 23:11:02] HuskySquared : since jan 2022
[2023-04-02 23:11:11] HuskySquared : not unexpected, european countries are adding
[2023-04-02 23:11:14] HuskySquared : asian countries moving away from it
[2023-04-02 23:11:38] top kitten : Pulsar: USA remains the best country in the world despite all the downfalls
[2023-04-02 23:12:43] clarknova : top kitten: what do you mean by "best" ?
[2023-04-02 23:13:14] top kitten : clarknova: most individual freedoms
[2023-04-02 23:13:40] clarknova : top kitten: swiss is better
[2023-04-02 23:13:55] HuskySquared : SangFrais: https://www.ceicdata.com/en/china/holdings-of-us-treasury-securities/holdings-of-us-treasury-securities
[2023-04-02 23:14:05] SangFrais : HuskySquared: forgot about japan lol but good point
[2023-04-02 23:14:24] top kitten : clarknova: maybe I dunno. If you can afford it maybe
[2023-04-02 23:14:33] clarknova : top kitten: yes
[2023-04-02 23:14:44] clarknova : top kitten: sweden also
[2023-04-02 23:14:47] HuskySquared : US debt is generally not something you want to hold with the country collapsing
[2023-04-02 23:14:54] HuskySquared : due to military power you have 0% ability to collect on it
[2023-04-02 23:15:15] HuskySquared : and its denominated in USD
[2023-04-02 23:15:39] top kitten : clarknova: why Sweden? The Swiss can own machine guns right?
[2023-04-02 23:15:41] SteveS. : USA wont collapse lol
[2023-04-02 23:15:44] SteveS. : Ever
[2023-04-02 23:15:45] SangFrais : HuskySquared: nice chart but yeah i already heard about china paying off dollar in large amounts the last years
[2023-04-02 23:15:54] HuskySquared : SangFrais: japan too
[2023-04-02 23:15:57] HuskySquared : india too
[2023-04-02 23:15:59] HuskySquared : brazil too
[2023-04-02 23:16:17] Buckztr : 😒1hr xbt long it https://www.tradingview.com/x/Kf6qkM2I
[2023-04-02 23:16:30] clarknova : top kitten: they have to keep their equipment at home if they did their military training
[2023-04-02 23:16:35] SangFrais : HuskySquared: good point didnt watch that
[2023-04-02 23:17:29] top kitten : clarknova: gun rights are near the top of my criteria for overall freedom
[2023-04-02 23:18:23] clarknova : top kitten: I don't agree but I'm too tired to argue :) Time to sleep for me. See you kitty ;)
[2023-04-02 23:18:36] Vita X : https://ibb.co/PWJmy3M
[2023-04-02 23:18:39] Vita X : Do you think these 4 hour candles are normal?
[2023-04-02 23:18:50] gaferreira : top kitten: lol not at all, that's some good west brainwashing
[2023-04-02 23:18:52] HuskySquared : where those from
[2023-04-02 23:18:53] HuskySquared : vita x
[2023-04-02 23:19:00] clarknova : pump it to 28500 when I wake. Thanks guys
[2023-04-02 23:19:06] Vita X : only wick
[2023-04-02 23:19:19] top kitten : gaferreira: these are all opinions. You're welcome to yours of course
[2023-04-02 23:19:34] Vita X : Bmex huksky
[2023-04-02 23:19:38] HuskySquared : Vita X: lol
[2023-04-02 23:19:40] SangFrais : clarknova: bonne nuit
[2023-04-02 23:19:53] gaferreira : alright it would take far too long to defend my opinion but
[2023-04-02 23:19:56] Vita X : I can't understand anymore
[2023-04-02 23:19:59] gaferreira : USA far from being the best
[2023-04-02 23:20:01] top kitten : clarknova: have a good night sir
[2023-04-02 23:20:09] Pulsar : remember when I said 3 Month bitcoin candles rarely have a wicks, it might be choosing its direction as we speak...
[2023-04-02 23:20:11] clarknova : top kitten: <3
[2023-04-02 23:20:32] top kitten : gaferreira: the whole of Europe for example has objectively less rights than Americans
[2023-04-02 23:20:55] gaferreira : what kind of rights
[2023-04-02 23:21:07] gaferreira : cus specially since most of europe is socialist you actually get more "rights" in europe
[2023-04-02 23:21:09] Senior. Professor. : :doge: :catjam:
[2023-04-02 23:22:10] top kitten : gaferreira: I'm also too tired to argue. But mostly your zoning laws. You need permission to do so many things
[2023-04-02 23:22:18] SteveS. : China products need boycotting, too much power atm, but nit easily done
[2023-04-02 23:22:25] SangFrais : more rights in europe but more freedom in usa (with lawyers on retainer) i concur
[2023-04-02 23:22:27] gaferreira : that's just unecessary paperwork
[2023-04-02 23:22:30] gaferreira : and i agree
[2023-04-02 23:22:53] gaferreira : but makes sense doesnt it? for example where i live there are properties dating back to 1100s
[2023-04-02 23:23:07] SteveS. : A little too late, Chong chong has power now
[2023-04-02 23:23:17] HuskySquared : SteveS.: no stopping China imo
[2023-04-02 23:23:24] HuskySquared : best to switch to the winning side
[2023-04-02 23:23:31] top kitten : gaferreira: maybe yea. Money usually solves problems
[2023-04-02 23:23:43] gaferreira : SteveS.: wdym boycotting? the whole world already admitted globalisation and outsourcing to china's cheap labour
[2023-04-02 23:23:47] SteveS. : HuskySquared: no they can be stopped, will take time
[2023-04-02 23:23:53] HuskySquared : SteveS.: US doesnt have time
[2023-04-02 23:23:55] SangFrais : SteveS.: chong chong is one of SA's stongest allies lol
[2023-04-02 23:23:59] gaferreira : cmon steve
[2023-04-02 23:24:17] HuskySquared : SteveS.: only way it would be stopped at this point is a) weapon delivery to russia, b) involvement in any kind of war
[2023-04-02 23:24:30] HuskySquared : and thats why a) and b) wont happen
[2023-04-02 23:24:40] HuskySquared : and china will economically support all countries such as iran etc to not wage war
[2023-04-02 23:24:48] SteveS. : I still back usa, anytime
[2023-04-02 23:24:49] HuskySquared : this takes a lot of bite out of the US
[2023-04-02 23:24:51] SangFrais : HuskySquared: china been supplying weapons for a long time didnt you catch that CNN with your breakfast yet
[2023-04-02 23:24:55] gaferreira : if they rly started boycotting chinese products people would get absolutely mad
[2023-04-02 23:24:57] HuskySquared : SangFrais: lmao
[2023-04-02 23:25:07] gaferreira : most shit like tech would get much more expensive or impossible to get
[2023-04-02 23:25:21] SteveS. : Imagine a world under China rule, fak
[2023-04-02 23:25:30] HuskySquared : going to happen
[2023-04-02 23:25:36] SteveS. : Vomit
[2023-04-02 23:25:38] HuskySquared : we live in the chinese century
[2023-04-02 23:25:52] gaferreira : but chill guys for most of us nothings gonna happen
[2023-04-02 23:25:58] SteveS. : HuskySquared: no we dont
[2023-04-02 23:26:02] HuskySquared : SteveS.: yes we do
[2023-04-02 23:26:22] SangFrais : HuskySquared: if the chinese dont get addicted to english supplied opium again they might just make it
[2023-04-02 23:27:03] SteveS. : China has industrial power sure, but still monkeys in a big zoo