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[2015-12-01 00:09:29] justinlooking : btc-e
[2015-12-01 00:10:12] justinlooking : sorry - thought might be replaced with putin :)
[2015-12-01 00:10:45] wurstgelee : lol :D
[2015-12-01 00:13:25] micmix : BitMEX_Sam: Could you please talk to Wally about enabling short term volatility indexes like BVOL2H? Looks like you already have the code but they are not running. Would be useful to us and maybe other algo traders as well.
[2015-12-01 00:14:09] justinlooking : imagine is very hard to find MMs for volatility....
[2015-12-01 00:15:03] micmix : I'm not talking about trading volatility, just the volatility index so we don't have to calculate it ourselves
[2015-12-01 00:15:14] justinlooking : oh right
[2015-12-01 00:15:59] zanza : micmix: they had it, it was a ghost town like the XBU's/XLT/ETh
[2015-12-01 00:16:13] zanza : ojh, isn't there an external one ?
[2015-12-01 00:16:26] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Sam: tnx for the changes
[2015-12-01 00:17:57] micmix : I like internal volatility indexes because they use the same XBX index used for settlement
[2015-12-01 00:18:12] TschavaTschigger : BitMEX_Sam: thx for the additional info @ recent trades
[2015-12-01 00:25:10] justinlooking : micmix: tradeblock has "average true range" indicator
[2015-12-01 00:25:20] justinlooking : but weirdly no bitmex :/
[2015-12-01 00:27:35] justinlooking : and chaiken volatility and historical volatility
[2015-12-01 00:39:01] messiaen8844 : as predicted, full retrace from that bottom ;)
[2015-12-01 00:39:13] TschavaTschigger : the new 50 bot seems sophisticated
[2015-12-01 00:39:22] justinlooking : anyone else get 2 "order cancelled" desktop notifications when pulling an order in chrome?
[2015-12-01 00:41:46] BitMEX_Sam : justinlooking: Do you have two tabs open?
[2015-12-01 00:42:07] justinlooking : derp yeh i have api explorer open sorry
[2015-12-01 00:42:08] TschavaTschigger : I like your way of thinking sam :D
[2015-12-01 00:42:31] BitMEX_Sam : Well, that's a bug tbh, it should uniquely ID notifications so they don't repeat
[2015-12-01 00:42:33] justinlooking : oh actually, i do
[2015-12-01 00:42:33] BitMEX_Sam : I'll look into it
[2015-12-01 00:43:26] justinlooking : ah k, if it helps, i only get 1 notification when submitting orders
[2015-12-01 00:45:49] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah, that makes sense. The browser spec is surprisingly limited here
[2015-12-01 00:46:24] BitMEX_Sam : Eventually I'm going to move our notifications over to a Service Worker, which will: 1. Eliminate duplicates, 2. Allow delivery even when the tab is closed, and 3. Allow delivery on mobile without a native app
[2015-12-01 00:46:38] BitMEX_Sam : Long story short, it'll be great, but we're not there yet
[2015-12-01 00:47:04] micmix : TschavaTschigger: there is no 50 bot :-) our bots quote variable size
[2015-12-01 01:00:58] BitMEX_Sam : micmix: FYI instrument updates still post for `.BVOL10M`, `.BVOL30M` and `.BVOL1H`
[2015-12-01 01:01:03] BitMEX_Sam : subscribe to them via teh ws
[2015-12-01 01:01:05] BitMEX_Sam : the ws*
[2015-12-01 01:02:12] micmix : BitMEX_Sam: oh really? I was checking https://www.bitmex.com/api/v1/trade?symbol=.BVOL30M and it's empty
[2015-12-01 01:02:39] micmix : will try ws now
[2015-12-01 01:03:12] BitMEX_Sam : I'll have to check with Wally but it doesn't post trades, just updates to `instrument`.
[2015-12-01 01:09:24] micmix : BitMEX_Sam: Yep, I can get BVOL from ws. Nice, thanks a lot!
[2015-12-01 01:46:00] podizzler3k : should i get python 2 or 3 for the MM bot
[2015-12-01 03:06:08] laisee : 2 works fin for me
[2015-12-01 03:09:58] podizzler3k : thanks laisee
[2015-12-01 03:39:30] smagin07 : what are the pros/cons of isolating the margin?
[2015-12-01 03:39:47] smagin07 : less potential for blowing out an account
[2015-12-01 03:39:56] smagin07 : but unlimited potential for winnings?
[2015-12-01 03:40:16] smagin07 : or *limited potential for winnings sorry
[2015-12-01 03:41:09] micmix : smagin07: winnings are not affected. with isolated margin you will get liquidated much sooner and will lose much less.
[2015-12-01 03:41:10] messiaen8844 : isolating don't limit your winnigs
[2015-12-01 03:42:39] messiaen8844 : daily an 7D require isolated margin IMO, cross is only useful for Z15, H16
[2015-12-01 03:42:51] messiaen8844 : or to protect against the Ethereum flash crash today lo
[2015-12-01 03:43:16] SnackyCoins : i disagree, daily and 7d are the worst contracts to play isolated on
[2015-12-01 03:43:41] micmix : messiaen8844: really? I never use isolated for daily or 7D. With isolated you will get liquidated in like 5 min on daily
[2015-12-01 03:43:53] SnackyCoins : yeah you can't hold an isolated position, period
[2015-12-01 03:43:55] SnackyCoins : on 100x
[2015-12-01 03:44:04] messiaen8844 : I don't do 100x
[2015-12-01 03:44:53] messiaen8844 : well, it depends on the time frame you operate
[2015-12-01 03:45:07] SnackyCoins : likewise being long Z15 and short daily/weekly is handy
[2015-12-01 03:45:28] SnackyCoins : i only ever isolate if my position is small and i'm going to bed and i'm too lazy to set a stoploss
[2015-12-01 03:45:31] messiaen8844 : and how well you time your entries
[2015-12-01 03:46:07] micmix : smagin07: if you are a beginner, try with cross margin but pay close attention to the market and be ready to close your position if the market turns against you. don't leave it open overnight
[2015-12-01 03:46:37] messiaen8844 : just set your stop losses on cross
[2015-12-01 03:47:14] micmix : yeah, set stop loss but it's not trivial for a beginner
[2015-12-01 03:47:51] smagin07 : Of course i'll leave it on overnight....all or nothin right? ;)
[2015-12-01 03:48:08] laisee : YOLO trading?
[2015-12-01 03:48:15] micmix : smagin07: well sure, that's how our bots make money :-)
[2015-12-01 03:48:51] laisee : ;-)
[2015-12-01 03:49:50] smagin07 : can I borrow one of those bots? ;)
[2015-12-01 03:50:04] smagin07 : I'm interested in making this money you speak of
[2015-12-01 03:50:34] micmix : smagin07: sure, will cost a bit more than mortgage payments :-)
[2015-12-01 03:51:22] smagin07 : not on my newly acquired 100 yr mortgage
[2015-12-01 03:51:37] SnackyCoins : gotta lose all your money before you will make it 8)
[2015-12-01 03:51:52] SnackyCoins : probably a few times
[2015-12-01 03:52:06] micmix : very true, the only way to learn is to blow your account couple of times
[2015-12-01 03:52:16] laisee : trading101 tutorial fees ...
[2015-12-01 03:52:52] SnackyCoins : so thanks in advance for your generous donation ;)
[2015-12-01 03:53:55] micmix : I think usually traders get lucky first couple of times, then they start playing with more money and blow the account
[2015-12-01 03:54:04] SnackyCoins : ^
[2015-12-01 03:54:14] SnackyCoins : dat euphoria
[2015-12-01 03:54:31] laisee : YOLO, pt.2
[2015-12-01 03:54:32] SnackyCoins : easy to win, hard not to lose
[2015-12-01 03:56:55] SnackyCoins : here she comes
[2015-12-01 04:08:15] smagin07 : god this is so fun
[2015-12-01 04:11:47] SnackyCoins : heh, it's fun now http://i.imgur.com/1pBTW3n.gif
[2015-12-01 04:12:06] SnackyCoins : you'll be patching holes in your drywall later
[2015-12-01 04:12:33] SnackyCoins : i still haven't repainted over mine 8)
[2015-12-01 04:20:21] SnackyCoins : new high okcn
[2015-12-01 04:20:34] micmix : SnackyCoins: did you make those holes with your fist or your head? ;-)
[2015-12-01 04:20:42] SnackyCoins : both
[2015-12-01 04:20:46] micmix : nice
[2015-12-01 04:21:22] smagin07 : didn't you snag like 12 coins in a day a couple weeks back in the shoot up?
[2015-12-01 04:21:22] SnackyCoins : but i didn't quit and today i bought an aeron 8)
[2015-12-01 04:21:44] SnackyCoins : haha maybe like 12 total
[2015-12-01 04:22:01] smagin07 : not a bad rake
[2015-12-01 04:22:12] SnackyCoins : been doing pretty good ever since too
[2015-12-01 04:22:16] smagin07 : use em all on the drywall and aeron i suppose?
[2015-12-01 04:22:26] smagin07 : :P
[2015-12-01 04:22:36] SnackyCoins : heh nah i made enough for the aeron 2 days ago
[2015-12-01 04:22:49] smagin07 : big win?
[2015-12-01 04:23:12] SnackyCoins : been making a good ~2.5 every rise, thats including getting chopped up
[2015-12-01 04:24:03] SnackyCoins : i got chopped up worse than i've been in months over the weekend and still didn't lose all i made on the ride up before it :) yay risk management
[2015-12-01 04:24:39] micmix : SnackyCoins: yeah, weekend was good for MM bots, bad for traders
[2015-12-01 04:25:40] smagin07 : &btc
[2015-12-01 04:26:03] micmix : smagin07: you forgot ; at the end
[2015-12-01 04:26:10] smagin07 : &btc;
[2015-12-01 04:26:13] smagin07 : genius
[2015-12-01 04:26:32] smagin07 : &btc; ring me the coins
[2015-12-01 04:26:45] SnackyCoins : shouldn't need a space after it to work
[2015-12-01 04:34:39] laisee : &btc;rilliant
[2015-12-01 04:39:06] romjpn : Those contracts thing are a bit difficult to understand at first
[2015-12-01 04:39:38] romjpn : for beginners
[2015-12-01 04:39:48] ayy lmao : &btc;
[2015-12-01 04:39:52] ayy lmao : noice
[2015-12-01 04:44:33] ethexio : What would be a quick way to get overall lifetime P/L, or by date range?
[2015-12-01 04:48:25] j8 : ethexio: you could save your wallet history as CSV in Account -> Wallet and sum the CashSettlement and CashRebalance amounts to get your pnl up to the last settlement
[2015-12-01 04:55:28] ethexio : Thanks j8
[2015-12-01 04:55:43] laisee : t
[2015-12-01 04:56:08] ethexio : I was in Trade history, but kept getting js error when trying to export.
[2015-12-01 04:56:23] ethexio : Wallet tx history should work
[2015-12-01 05:04:19] ethexio : nice
[2015-12-01 05:04:34] j8 : is it a big number?
[2015-12-01 05:05:00] ethexio : it was, until I *.00000001 ;)
[2015-12-01 05:05:29] ethexio : now not as big as I'd like, but something to work towards
[2015-12-01 05:05:51] j8 : yeah, we can't all have a hundred million bitcoins unfortunately
[2015-12-01 05:06:44] laisee : 21 million should be enough
[2015-12-01 05:13:56] Swedishnut : I'm hoping to have a few thousand on a Trezor by next year if I can manage
[2015-12-01 05:19:48] AudibleScience : ah! Got my internet connection back after no connection since 14:00.. finally!!
[2015-12-01 05:21:13] AudibleScience : Swedishnut: a few thousand coins? nice...
[2015-12-01 05:21:56] Swedishnut : yeah have to provide for my not so Techie family and I'm the Black Sheep
[2015-12-01 05:31:49] AudibleScience : cool... I know what that like man! lol @Swedishnut
[2015-12-01 05:32:22] AudibleScience : I noticed something strange earlier when I had no connection...
[2015-12-01 05:33:08] AudibleScience : the macd indicator was still displaying some data?
[2015-12-01 05:37:36] AudibleScience : does anyone know how it's actually calculated... and moreover, how this indicator was still displaying data... long after it was getting no more input??
[2015-12-01 05:40:00] AudibleScience : lol how come the trollbox is so quiet this morning!?
[2015-12-01 05:43:55] BitMEX_Wally : AudibleScience: Hello :)
[2015-12-01 05:44:25] AudibleScience : BitMEX_Wally: hey Wally
[2015-12-01 05:45:11] BitMEX_Wally : Would you like to trade some Blockchain derivatives?
[2015-12-01 05:45:25] BitMEX_Wally : You just need to deposit some Blockchain shares
[2015-12-01 05:45:27] BitMEX_Wally : https://blog.bitmex.com/crypto-trader-digest-nov-30/
[2015-12-01 05:46:30] laisee : Wally> maybe you can offer service to convert Bitcoin to Blockchain shares ... profit!
[2015-12-01 05:47:09] BitMEX_Wally : That's a good idea
[2015-12-01 05:47:38] laisee : banks would pay a lot for 'clean' blockchain shares
[2015-12-01 05:50:00] BitMEX_Wally : <img src="https://i.imgflip.com/swdf3.jpg">
[2015-12-01 05:50:24] laisee : lol
[2015-12-01 05:52:22] AudibleScience : BitMEX_Wally: very interesting...
[2015-12-01 05:52:45] laisee : blockchain shares ... a really, really, ridiculously good looking ctypto coin.
[2015-12-01 06:05:46] psyfur : hey cool to see the bitmex guys tried out the suggested change for the recent trades box
[2015-12-01 06:06:28] micmix : shoot, someone already bought blockchainshares.com
[2015-12-01 06:07:45] laisee : owner => J. Mugatu
[2015-12-01 06:11:25] micmix : BitMEX_Wally: have a feature suggestions for the API: <bMaker only order flag</b> The maker-only flag indicates that the order should only make liquidity. If any part of the order results in taking liquidity, the order will be rejected and no part of it will execute.
[2015-12-01 06:11:56] BitMEX_Wally : micmix: Good idea, I think coinbase has this feature
[2015-12-01 06:12:34] micmix : BitMEX_Wally: yep, I'm using it on Coinbase exchange. works nicely with maker rebates :-)
[2015-12-01 06:13:42] BitMEX_Wally : `post_only [optional]** Post only flag`
[2015-12-01 06:13:55] micmix : BitMEX_Wally: yep, that's the one
[2015-12-01 06:34:01] podizzler3k : still $7 premium for china
[2015-12-01 06:34:35] podizzler3k : what the hell is a blockchain share
[2015-12-01 07:24:56] BitMEX_Wally : podizzler3k: Not sure, probably a Satoshi
[2015-12-01 07:48:39] ethexio : chop chop go
[2015-12-01 08:03:19] psyfur : jeez bitmex is bearish right now
[2015-12-01 08:25:10] ethexio : finally some movement
[2015-12-01 08:29:13] ethexio : not best direction, but ok.
[2015-12-01 08:30:20] podizzle3k : fuckin fumble fingers couldnt get that liquidation in time
[2015-12-01 08:31:28] rapidtrades : weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[2015-12-01 08:32:29] rapidtrades : APPLY LUBE BULLS
[2015-12-01 08:33:31] ethexio : i went against gut.. :(
[2015-12-01 08:35:08] rapidtrades : ethexio: sry man....I missed this move as well, woke up like 5 mins ago lol
[2015-12-01 08:35:44] rapidtrades : it looked bearish but I don't like placing trades until I'm fully awake :)
[2015-12-01 08:35:58] ethexio : i had nice short come, but canceled and rethought - went long .. :(
[2015-12-01 08:36:26] ethexio : holy shit too.
[2015-12-01 08:37:00] rapidtrades : yeah that sucks...
[2015-12-01 08:37:33] ethexio : it's gotta bounce, a little..
[2015-12-01 08:37:35] ethexio : right?
[2015-12-01 08:37:49] messiaen8844 : lololol, didn' I tell yesterday about the daily doji and going back to 2330??
[2015-12-01 08:38:31] rapidtrades : smone panicked bought
[2015-12-01 08:40:19] rapidtrades : messiaen8844: I've been waiting for a $30-50 pullback too ...just bad timing...are u short?
[2015-12-01 08:40:50] messiaen8844 : already closed, I was shorted on the 24H the whole day yesterday
[2015-12-01 08:41:17] messiaen8844 : premium was nice for not crossing 380
[2015-12-01 08:41:52] rapidtrades : messiaen8844: that took some balls...I scalped around $6-7$ bucks down but things didn't want to break yday
[2015-12-01 08:42:43] messiaen8844 : now some retrance and I'm only buying 7D again on $ 348
[2015-12-01 08:43:07] rapidtrades : messiaen8844: I think if we break 350 we're screwed
[2015-12-01 08:43:15] messiaen8844 : we won't
[2015-12-01 08:43:15] rapidtrades : the bulls I mean
[2015-12-01 08:43:36] rapidtrades : oh u think a dip below and we go back up
[2015-12-01 08:44:04] rapidtrades : or are u already long at 348
[2015-12-01 08:44:17] messiaen8844 : I'm longing now on 24h
[2015-12-01 08:44:55] rapidtrades : almost shorted the weekly by mistake lol
[2015-12-01 08:45:07] rapidtrades : that's a nice premium...oh wait *pulls order
[2015-12-01 08:48:25] rapidtrades : I'm not fuly awake yet :)
[2015-12-01 08:51:39] messiaen8844 : almost 7am here, went to sleep 4 am... well, we hit 2340 and now we are bouncin up
[2015-12-01 08:51:39] ethexio : buy dip ;)
[2015-12-01 08:52:22] rapidtrades : not yet :) we don't know if this is a dip
[2015-12-01 08:52:30] messiaen8844 : this is my target
[2015-12-01 08:52:35] messiaen8844 : I was aiming for since yesterday
[2015-12-01 08:52:44] rapidtrades : nice work
[2015-12-01 08:52:47] ethexio : That was an expensive 10 minutes.
[2015-12-01 08:53:53] laisee : nice dip
[2015-12-01 08:53:54] thehawthorne : same here.
[2015-12-01 08:54:17] thehawthorne : almost margin called
[2015-12-01 08:54:37] messiaen8844 : now time to market buy
[2015-12-01 08:54:43] ethexio : lol
[2015-12-01 08:55:12] ethexio : hold me
[2015-12-01 08:55:17] thehawthorne : already did, but pockets are kind of empty now. hope for 2360 to hold at least
[2015-12-01 08:55:18] rapidtrades : I have my asks ready...just need some FOMO MOFO to go nuts
[2015-12-01 08:55:42] micmix : our bots closed 7D shorts and back in profit on 7D. are you guys ready to buy the dip? :-)
[2015-12-01 08:58:09] rapidtrades : BUY THE DIP
[2015-12-01 08:58:15] rapidtrades : fill my asks :)
[2015-12-01 08:59:15] laisee : u have an ask for 11000 @ 375, right?
[2015-12-01 08:59:45] rapidtrades : lol no...I don;t trade that high here yet, only testing new strats
[2015-12-01 09:00:42] rapidtrades : I doubt the liquidity will support 10k with the way I trade, I get partial fills atm
[2015-12-01 09:02:35] romjpn : will it go back up ?
[2015-12-01 09:02:46] laisee : yes.
[2015-12-01 09:03:04] micmix : romjpn: of course it will, the real question is when
[2015-12-01 09:03:11] laisee : now
[2015-12-01 09:03:12] rapidtrades : 2017
[2015-12-01 09:03:14] laisee : nowe
[2015-12-01 09:03:28] rapidtrades : in the year of the dragon
[2015-12-01 09:03:41] rapidtrades : the chinese will go FOMO on all the things
[2015-12-01 09:03:42] romjpn : Like in a few hours, going back to ~380 area
[2015-12-01 09:03:52] rapidtrades : I wouldn't bet on that
[2015-12-01 09:03:56] romjpn : the rebound does not look strong
[2015-12-01 09:04:23] rapidtrades : yeah we need to bounce quick here or the bulls are dead, imo
[2015-12-01 09:05:12] romjpn : Just tell me when I need to x100 margin my 0.5btc please :p (joking)
[2015-12-01 09:09:07] laisee : about now minus 5 mins
[2015-12-01 09:09:50] romjpn : So when I look at open positions I need to look at realized PNL to see profits right ? Just coming from traditional btc exchanges so new to futures
[2015-12-01 09:16:54] BitMEX_Wally : romjpn: If you buy 100 contracts then sell 30 contracts you will have realised PNL for the 30, and then unrealised PNL for the remaining 70
[2015-12-01 09:17:58] romjpn : Ok ! Thanks
[2015-12-01 09:25:16] rapidtrades : still waiting for that bounce
[2015-12-01 09:30:27] romjpn : seems it won't
[2015-12-01 09:31:14] rapidtrades : flat for 1 hour now
[2015-12-01 09:34:29] ethexio : nap time
[2015-12-01 09:34:47] ethexio : we'll see how this plays out..
[2015-12-01 09:53:51] rapidtrades : https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/3uv7lt/arthur_hayes_of_bitmex_only_logical_explanation/
[2015-12-01 10:08:36] rapidtrades : we could stay flat until settlement here...not rushing into a short
[2015-12-01 10:30:15] habibi : what a niceee dump
[2015-12-01 10:32:22] rapidtrades : yea missed it again lol...well at least I wasn't long
[2015-12-01 10:40:04] rapidtrades : well that's prolly it...see u at settlement, I have stuff to do
[2015-12-01 10:59:09] thehawthorne : boom
[2015-12-01 11:43:55] zanza : what did i miss?
[2015-12-01 11:44:33] zanza : looks like a crash
[2015-12-01 11:44:39] habibi : depends how long have u been away
[2015-12-01 11:44:50] zanza : 10 hrs
[2015-12-01 11:44:56] habibi : so two dumps! :)
[2015-12-01 11:49:24] thehawthorne : CHINESE PPL MADE ME LOSE MONEY NOW I WILL NEVER EAT AT THEIR RESTAURANT AGAIN
[2015-12-01 11:49:42] thehawthorne : COZ I HAVE NO MONEY FOR RESTAURANT O-o
[2015-12-01 11:50:01] habibi : :D
[2015-12-01 11:50:42] thehawthorne : never go take a shower with open positions these days
[2015-12-01 11:50:43] BitMEX_Arthur : <img src="http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5ooj5nDqj1rrbogso2_500.gif">
[2015-12-01 11:50:55] thehawthorne : Hehe
[2015-12-01 11:51:14] habibi : u can do it
[2015-12-01 11:51:19] habibi : but always sets stop limits
[2015-12-01 11:51:47] thehawthorne : kinda fucked up if you are on high leverage
[2015-12-01 11:53:07] habibi : doesnt matter if u have 100 btc buy with 3.3 x on finex
[2015-12-01 11:53:20] habibi : or here with 100x
[2015-12-01 11:53:30] habibi : if prices moves u lost/earn the same
[2015-12-01 12:02:18] BitMEX_Wally : habibi: Bitfinex charges 0.20% so you make more here
[2015-12-01 12:02:45] BitMEX_Wally : Plus the interest rate swap costs
[2015-12-01 12:04:51] rapidtrades : not much of a premium today
[2015-12-01 12:04:57] rapidtrades : bulls look screwed
[2015-12-01 12:08:24] habibi : yep
[2015-12-01 12:21:34] podizzle3k : thanks for the cheap coinz!
[2015-12-01 12:22:03] podizzle3k : haha thought i would bring a btce vibe to this dump
[2015-12-01 12:30:46] rapidtrades : up or down fellas?
[2015-12-01 12:32:22] habibi : imho its a trap
[2015-12-01 12:32:26] habibi : but lets see
[2015-12-01 12:32:33] rapidtrades : bull trap?
[2015-12-01 12:32:44] sleger : everything is a trap with you people
[2015-12-01 12:32:56] rapidtrades : sleger: shut up permabull
[2015-12-01 12:33:00] sleger : you also think the NSA is spying on you ?
[2015-12-01 12:33:07] habibi : sleger: its just an opinion why u so agressive?
[2015-12-01 12:33:07] irbbqu : lol
[2015-12-01 12:33:54] rapidtrades : habibi: he's always aggressive
[2015-12-01 12:34:26] sleger : and I am clearly not a permabull
[2015-12-01 12:34:58] podizzle3k : im predicting more down
[2015-12-01 12:37:27] rapidtrades : I'm stuck in a short and don't like it...
[2015-12-01 12:37:41] rapidtrades : shorted the weekly by mistake...thought it was daily
[2015-12-01 12:37:57] rapidtrades : oh look at that premium...RAPED
[2015-12-01 12:38:11] habibi : sleger: so be fuckin good guy herer and do behave like that
[2015-12-01 12:38:21] habibi : and to spying, read about prism
[2015-12-01 12:38:53] sleger : the spying thing was a rhetorical question
[2015-12-01 12:39:01] podizzle3k : why are you lecturing sleger when you got rapidtrades insulting people all day and night here
[2015-12-01 12:39:21] rapidtrades : podizzle3k: cos I'm actually funny and he's just mean
[2015-12-01 12:39:30] podizzle3k : youre funnY?
[2015-12-01 12:39:34] podizzle3k : FUNNY LOOKIN
[2015-12-01 12:39:35] habibi : podizzle3k: basically every time he do it i react
[2015-12-01 12:39:36] podizzle3k : wuahaha
[2015-12-01 12:39:41] habibi : when i am here :)
[2015-12-01 12:40:13] rapidtrades : Besides I think it's obvious that I'm joking most of the time
[2015-12-01 12:40:57] podizzle3k : subtle sarcasm translates real well over the internet
[2015-12-01 12:41:00] podizzle3k : see what i did there
[2015-12-01 12:41:06] sleger : 1. you're not funny, 2. you are not courteous, you insult people directly , which I have never done, 3. your comments never bring any real value to any discussion
[2015-12-01 12:41:26] sleger : that was for rapidtrades (obviously)
[2015-12-01 12:41:29] podizzle3k : oh damn the 3 pointer
[2015-12-01 12:42:21] rapidtrades : podizzle3k: none of his 3 points are funny...which just proves my point...noone likes a mean old grumpy man
[2015-12-01 12:42:37] podizzle3k : i didnt know this was bitmex comedy club
[2015-12-01 12:43:18] sleger : I never pretended to be funny, or here for entertainment.
[2015-12-01 12:43:19] irbbqu : Scent of rekt in the morning
[2015-12-01 12:44:43] rapidtrades : irbbqu: ppl get so combative when they're losing....noone minded my jokes yesterday when we rallied $20
[2015-12-01 12:44:52] rapidtrades : now it's like YOU'RE NOT FUNNNY SHUT UP
[2015-12-01 12:48:33] sleger : it probably wasnt funny yesterday either, I just wasnt around to let you know about it
[2015-12-01 12:54:09] Gemz : where can i see my pending withdrawal? made one about an hour ago still not received
[2015-12-01 12:55:33] habibi : Gemz: u money is tested used at striptease club, after succesful testing u will have anavailbe funds
[2015-12-01 12:58:04] Gemz : arabs are into striptease? in saudi arabia u will get killed for such comment
[2015-12-01 13:02:24] sleger : are you from saudi arabia ?
[2015-12-01 13:02:28] podizzle3k : that doesnt mean theyre not into it
[2015-12-01 13:02:45] podizzle3k : theyre human beings, theyre into it
[2015-12-01 13:04:09] rapidtrades : 50 cents premium...
[2015-12-01 13:04:15] podizzle3k : i knew that 363.99 was too much
[2015-12-01 13:04:18] podizzle3k : wasnt fast enough
[2015-12-01 13:04:53] rapidtrades : idiots bid up the premium on the weekly...cos bitcorn has to go up forevah
[2015-12-01 13:05:16] podizzle3k : i think its teh weekly not the forever
[2015-12-01 13:05:19] podizzle3k : just sayin
[2015-12-01 13:06:29] rapidtrades : well it's either hedge or let this run its course now....I don't think the idiots will give up the premium before friday
[2015-12-01 13:06:49] rapidtrades : prolly bots being stupid
[2015-12-01 13:07:17] rapidtrades : daysXpremium (bitfinex)=buy here
[2015-12-01 13:09:41] podizzle3k : believe it or not it can still finish above 366 by friday
[2015-12-01 13:10:01] podizzle3k : i know that seems impossible with it being a whole $4 below that
[2015-12-01 13:10:36] Trade_master_3000 : for xbt daily contract how do i change leverage from 100 to 25?
[2015-12-01 13:11:19] podizzle3k : Trade_master_3000: you can either start with a cross position and use 25% of your available funds, or you can add margin after the fact to lower your leverage to 25x
[2015-12-01 13:11:48] podizzle3k : you might want to mess around on the testnet for a few hours first
[2015-12-01 13:11:49] Trade_master_3000 : so basically just cross margin and layer bids?
[2015-12-01 13:11:54] podizzle3k : see how things work
[2015-12-01 13:12:06] Trade_master_3000 : yeah ill try that, is the link on the left side somewhere?
[2015-12-01 13:12:19] podizzle3k : start cross margin and build your position up yes, it tells you exactly what leverage youre at
[2015-12-01 13:12:39] podizzle3k : https://testnet.bitmex.com/
[2015-12-01 13:13:08] Trade_master_3000 : cool
[2015-12-01 13:19:49] Trade_master_3000 : so you cant open any fake orders to see how it works there or am i just blind
[2015-12-01 13:23:02] habibi : Trade_master_3000: u need btc from btc testnet
[2015-12-01 13:23:20] habibi : https://testnet.coinfaucet.eu/en/ or other faucets gives it away for fre
[2015-12-01 13:23:31] BitMEX_Wally : Trade_master_3000: Follow the instructions on the deposit page, it tells you some faucets to use: https://testnet.bitmex.com/app/deposit
[2015-12-01 13:25:03] Trade_master_3000 : thanks got it
[2015-12-01 13:25:27] podizzle3k : my 364 wall is holding down bitcoin
[2015-12-01 13:25:36] podizzle3k : 800 contracts intimidating china
[2015-12-01 13:28:11] habibi : podizzle3k: where @?
[2015-12-01 13:28:28] podizzle3k : xbt24h
[2015-12-01 13:28:36] podizzle3k : 364.0 800 contracts
[2015-12-01 13:28:41] podizzle3k : im supressing bitcoin
[2015-12-01 13:28:48] podizzle3k : holding it down for the banksters
[2015-12-01 13:39:41] zanza : BTFD BTFD
[2015-12-01 13:48:55] laisee : today was up/down, fer sure.
[2015-12-01 13:52:13] laisee : pod> mini-narwhal of 800 contracts ....
[2015-12-01 13:54:30] podizzle3k : sorry longs i had to do it.
[2015-12-01 13:54:36] podizzle3k : whale tactics
[2015-12-01 13:54:59] podizzle3k : once my buys get hit i'll pull the wall
[2015-12-01 13:56:05] podizzle3k : testnet is at 361.97... very bullish sentiment there
[2015-12-01 13:57:45] laisee : testnet is the dark horse in the whole block size debate, not surprised to see price moving ...
[2015-12-01 14:00:13] podizzle3k : i heard they are torn between bip69 and bip420
[2015-12-01 14:00:56] laisee : tough choice.
[2015-12-01 14:34:55] Trade_master_3000 : eta on withdrawals?
[2015-12-01 14:36:34] BitMEX_Sam : Trade_master_3000: As usual they're done at 13 UTC
[2015-12-01 15:10:03] podizzle3k : buy at 364.19 sell at 364? someone got cold feet
[2015-12-01 15:11:14] SnackyCoins : haha i did
[2015-12-01 15:12:52] rapidtrades : guys there's stil some premium on the weekly if u want to sell into
[2015-12-01 15:18:19] rapidtrades : podizzle3k: I left like that shorting near 380 hehe
[2015-12-01 15:19:26] podizzle3k : rapidtrades youre the dump master finally your day has come
[2015-12-01 15:19:47] podizzle3k : how long will your reign last
[2015-12-01 15:48:28] wurstgelee : seems like Julian Wu was wrong again ;)
[2015-12-01 15:49:59] rapidtrades : wurstgelee: is that a real guy or a euphemism for a Chinese person
[2015-12-01 15:50:12] wurstgelee : dunno
[2015-12-01 15:58:27] rapidtrades : we haven't rallied much tbh but its the slow consistency highe that's driving me up the wall
[2015-12-01 16:00:54] rapidtrades : esp on weekly
[2015-12-01 16:02:15] podizzle3k : cryptorca was dead on
[2015-12-01 16:03:16] podizzle3k : https://twitter.com/CryptOrca/status/671248665105821696
[2015-12-01 16:05:07] podizzle3k : food time
[2015-12-01 16:14:08] rapidtrades : say I have a total of 1,000 contracts short but they're spread on weekly Z15 AND H16...would longing the daily for 1k hedge me completely?
[2015-12-01 16:14:28] rapidtrades : all shorts are on different prices
[2015-12-01 16:17:38] messiaen8844 : no
[2015-12-01 16:18:26] messiaen8844 : if daily goes $10 up, longer contracts will go much higher. Be careful there, shorting may be suicidal
[2015-12-01 16:21:48] habibi : yea in case we go down more, we will get negative premium as well probally
[2015-12-01 16:21:59] messiaen8844 : not much really
[2015-12-01 16:22:04] messiaen8844 : unless trend changes
[2015-12-01 16:22:34] messiaen8844 : if daily goes down $20, people won't change their expectatives towards the H16 much
[2015-12-01 16:23:02] messiaen8844 : if anything, people are waiting retrace to buy h16
[2015-12-01 16:24:12] messiaen8844 : I bought some cheap Z15 today because of people panicking
[2015-12-01 16:24:19] messiaen8844 : sold some of them minutes later for $15 more
[2015-12-01 16:37:54] rapidtrades : I meant will my exposure will be zero-ed out, I'm aware they don't move the same
[2015-12-01 16:38:34] rapidtrades : due to the way futures work here, it's hard to hedge with other spot exchanges
[2015-12-01 16:39:29] rapidtrades : uh oh...iscount on daily
[2015-12-01 16:39:37] rapidtrades : this is not good for bitcorn
[2015-12-01 16:54:58] rapidtrades : hedged my short weekly, that was a error trade anyway
[2015-12-01 16:57:55] rapidtrades : I'll prolly sit this one out boys, making too many mistakes today
[2015-12-01 16:58:15] User__1 : what is bitcoin?
[2015-12-01 16:59:21] User__1 : what is their website i have questions concerning this rate i see i bought bitcoin walmart gift cards and price not right pls help
[2015-12-01 16:59:54] rapidtrades : lol
[2015-12-01 17:05:21] Teddy76 : he can't be serious... :)
[2015-12-01 17:11:51] messiaen8844 : buy with paypal... on ebay
[2015-12-01 17:12:03] messiaen8844 : any questions email the ceo karpeles@mtgox.com
[2015-12-01 17:14:13] TschavaTschigger : User__1: Barry Bitcoin is an entrepreneur who developed a new, stable currency for third-world countries
[2015-12-01 17:14:43] habibi : messiaen8844: here u have ur long premium :)
[2015-12-01 17:15:09] User__1 : ?????????????
[2015-12-01 17:15:14] messiaen8844 : z15?
[2015-12-01 17:15:18] habibi : h24?
[2015-12-01 17:15:34] messiaen8844 : yeah, fucked myself there lol
[2015-12-01 17:16:06] User__1 : TschavaTschigger: ???? pls help
[2015-12-01 17:17:15] SnackyCoins : User__1: lol how did you find this site
[2015-12-01 17:17:41] habibi : User__1: where are u from and why u trolling us so hard :D?
[2015-12-01 17:18:00] TschavaTschigger : User__1: enter "www.google.com" in your search bar (the input field at the top of your browser)... then, enter the term "bitcoin" and click on search
[2015-12-01 17:18:08] messiaen8844 : please rename to User__2
[2015-12-01 17:18:33] User__1 : SnackyCoins: sorry im not from usa not everyone can be as smart as u
[2015-12-01 17:18:48] habibi : ok troll
[2015-12-01 17:18:55] SnackyCoins : http://i.imgur.com/R6YnLYQ.jpg
[2015-12-01 17:19:07] podizzle3k : big dump
[2015-12-01 17:19:47] podizzle3k : rapidtrades is "sitting this one out" are you fing kidding me
[2015-12-01 17:20:06] podizzle3k : youve been proclaiming the end for weeks and now when it finally arrives you are "sitting this one out"
[2015-12-01 17:21:00] User__1 : TschavaTschigger: google blok in my country
[2015-12-01 17:21:47] thebigmac : liqudated again !!! done with this bitmex stuff!!
[2015-12-01 17:21:52] User__1 : need help with gift card for bitcoin
[2015-12-01 17:24:20] AbuAli : User__1: i can help
[2015-12-01 17:24:49] AbuAli : User__1: what kind of gift card ? ( visa ) ?
[2015-12-01 17:30:04] User__1 : bitcoin
[2015-12-01 17:30:18] User__1 : online frend said it from walmart
[2015-12-01 17:30:32] User__1 : ?????????
[2015-12-01 17:30:42] messiaen8844 : trololol
[2015-12-01 17:30:44] User__1 : AbuAli: how u help?
[2015-12-01 17:31:16] messiaen8844 : ask reddit bitcoin, not a future exchange
[2015-12-01 17:32:02] User__1 : reddit blok in my country
[2015-12-01 17:32:39] habibi : User__1: we need to go deeper
[2015-12-01 17:34:22] User__1 : sorry messiaen im not tryin to be trouble
[2015-12-01 17:34:37] User__1 : just want to make trade with gift card
[2015-12-01 17:35:51] User__1 : can withdraw Kazakhstan Tenge KZT??
[2015-12-01 17:37:50] User__1 : https://kk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D2%9A%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B0%D2%9B%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B0%D0%BD_%D1%82%D0%B5%D2%A3%D0%B3%D0%B5%D1%81%D1%96
[2015-12-01 17:43:21] User__1 : if not trade with card then can buy btc here?
[2015-12-01 17:44:28] messiaen8844 : https://localbitcoins.com/country/KZ
[2015-12-01 17:44:50] messiaen8844 : Borat seels there
[2015-12-01 17:44:54] messiaen8844 : *sells
[2015-12-01 17:45:32] BitMEX_Sam : You can buy BitShares for KZT
[2015-12-01 17:46:08] messiaen8844 : are your bitshares BIP101 ?
[2015-12-01 17:46:25] BitMEX_Sam : Can't mention BIP101, might get banned from /r/bitcoin
[2015-12-01 17:46:28] User__1 : ??? what bit share
[2015-12-01 17:46:42] User__1 : sam u work at bmex??
[2015-12-01 17:46:45] User__1 : pls help
[2015-12-01 17:47:15] AbuAli : User__1: what kind of gift card u want ?
[2015-12-01 17:47:38] AbuAli : User__1: u give me btc and i give you visa card to use online ( gift card )
[2015-12-01 17:48:49] User__1 : ok yes
[2015-12-01 17:49:23] User__1 : abu link???
[2015-12-01 17:49:31] AbuAli : User__1: do you have escrow ?
[2015-12-01 17:49:49] AbuAli : and how much you want $ ?
[2015-12-01 17:50:32] irbbqu : From -4 discount to +2 premiumn in minutes
[2015-12-01 17:50:34] irbbqu : Good job guys
[2015-12-01 17:50:41] User__1 : can u pm
[2015-12-01 17:51:01] habibi : mm wanted to cause some panic bbuy
[2015-12-01 17:51:31] SnackyCoins : no just getting out of my short
[2015-12-01 17:52:35] SnackyCoins : BitMEX_Sam: thank you very much for the extra column in the tape
[2015-12-01 17:52:55] BitMEX_Sam : SnackyCoins: NP, thought it was useful info to have
[2015-12-01 17:52:59] AbuAli : User__1: i can sell you a 30usd card for 0.09 btc
[2015-12-01 17:53:25] User__1 : is that good deal?
[2015-12-01 17:53:45] irbbqu : Bitmex fomo kills - bottom shorters lol
[2015-12-01 17:53:50] irbbqu : "keeeeel"
[2015-12-01 17:54:55] AbuAli : User__1: 0.09 btc is 32.4usd
[2015-12-01 17:55:17] User__1 : how much in KZT??
[2015-12-01 17:55:37] messiaen8844 : now retrace to 2376?
[2015-12-01 17:55:44] User__1 : send link
[2015-12-01 17:55:53] AbuAli : 9967.86 Kazakhstani Tenge
[2015-12-01 17:56:05] User__1 : ok
[2015-12-01 17:56:08] User__1 : good!
[2015-12-01 17:56:30] AbuAli : u got skype ?
[2015-12-01 17:56:39] User__1 : skype?
[2015-12-01 17:56:49] habibi : brain?
[2015-12-01 17:57:48] SnackyCoins : i want to replace the sound with something more obtrusive and less widely acceptable. 8)
[2015-12-01 17:57:52] User__1 : sorry???
[2015-12-01 17:57:56] AbuAli : lol
[2015-12-01 17:58:16] AbuAli : User__1: do you use paypal ?
[2015-12-01 17:58:27] User__1 : yes paypal good
[2015-12-01 17:59:34] AbuAli : User__1: you can use those websites to exchange btc for payapl, i already used them : www.unichange.me
[2015-12-01 18:00:45] User__1 : This webpage is not available ERR_SPDY_PROTOCOL_ERROR
[2015-12-01 18:00:54] messiaen8844 : I think ETH has found a support
[2015-12-01 18:01:36] AbuAli : User__1: https://unichange.me/
[2015-12-01 18:01:46] AbuAli : User__1: im using firefox explorer
[2015-12-01 18:02:29] AbuAli : also have a look at https://paxful.com/sell-bitcoin
[2015-12-01 18:03:53] Swedishnut : retrace to 375 again today?
[2015-12-01 18:04:59] messiaen8844 : first 2376
[2015-12-01 18:05:25] messiaen8844 : I'm still counting on the daily simmetry
[2015-12-01 18:05:38] messiaen8844 : it is exactly at my 2330 spot
[2015-12-01 18:05:40] rapidtrades : what's that
[2015-12-01 18:05:51] messiaen8844 : rapidtrades look at bitcoin 1d
[2015-12-01 18:06:05] messiaen8844 : find the TIME and PRICE simmetry
[2015-12-01 18:06:08] rapidtrades : looks deaded
[2015-12-01 18:06:18] messiaen8844 : usually longer movement legs will take a similar period of time
[2015-12-01 18:07:10] rapidtrades : ok and what
[2015-12-01 18:07:27] messiaen8844 : so, simetrically next move is all the way up to $ 500
[2015-12-01 18:07:34] rapidtrades : lol
[2015-12-01 18:08:22] messiaen8844 : sorry, not $ 500, about $ 400
[2015-12-01 18:08:25] rapidtrades : guess we'll see...if we break $350 it's game over imo
[2015-12-01 18:08:40] irbbqu : meh
[2015-12-01 18:08:58] messiaen8844 : there are other support ranges before "game over"
[2015-12-01 18:09:10] rapidtrades : nope
[2015-12-01 18:09:31] messiaen8844 : what are you waiting for?$220 again?
[2015-12-01 18:09:42] rapidtrades : messiaen8844: me? nothing
[2015-12-01 18:09:55] rapidtrades : we're still in range
[2015-12-01 18:10:30] rapidtrades : u ppl get too excited over 1-2 day moves
[2015-12-01 18:10:32] Swedishnut : I think 350 is not out of the question either. Just wondering if the worst holiday sales will move price of btc up or down due to corps losing so much on their sales
[2015-12-01 18:10:45] messiaen8844 : one cal also think of VERY big triangle
[2015-12-01 18:11:44] rapidtrades : Swedishnut: doesn't matter
[2015-12-01 18:11:58] rapidtrades : noone uses this curency to buy stuff
[2015-12-01 18:11:59] messiaen8844 : or forget technical analysis and think on fundamental analysis, everything is going strong
[2015-12-01 18:12:12] rapidtrades : messiaen8844: nah all tech here
[2015-12-01 18:12:13] Swedishnut : gotcha btc too small to be affected at this point?
[2015-12-01 18:12:25] podizzle3k : swedishnut why would that have anything to do with btc
[2015-12-01 18:12:43] rapidtrades : no....let's do a poll here, how much stuff have u bought with BTC over the years @Swedishnut
[2015-12-01 18:12:46] podizzle3k : thats like saying i hope that the wheat futures projection is going to cause btc to moon
[2015-12-01 18:12:50] rapidtrades : $10 here
[2015-12-01 18:13:04] podizzle3k : $1000s here
[2015-12-01 18:13:07] rapidtrades : actual stuff, not futures or other btc
[2015-12-01 18:13:30] podizzle3k : how do you know holiday sales on the dark market were down swedishnut
[2015-12-01 18:13:37] podizzle3k : because lets be serious thats where 95% of btc is spent