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[2017-04-23 09:56:51] Farzad : $3 ?
[2017-04-23 09:56:55] Tommy : $4
[2017-04-23 09:57:13] shiroe : i wonder if we go 0.05
[2017-04-23 09:57:14] Tommy : From fixating at $4 to going parabolic.
[2017-04-23 09:57:46] Farzad : it is caused by greed
[2017-04-23 09:58:05] Farzad : and then fear makes it crash so hard
[2017-04-23 09:58:14] Farzad : fear is stronger than greed
[2017-04-23 09:58:15] Tommy : Seems people want to get in before it becomes the next BTC.
[2017-04-23 09:58:31] Farzad : next BTC ? never happens
[2017-04-23 09:58:47] Tommy : so disappointed with my BTCs
[2017-04-23 09:58:54] Farzad : we have much better coins to replace BTC
[2017-04-23 09:59:06] Farzad : LTC is shitcoin
[2017-04-23 09:59:25] Tommy : I guess if it rises it's a good coin?
[2017-04-23 09:59:30] Farzad : many shitcoins pump 100x and then crash
[2017-04-23 09:59:34] Actualiteit : now thats yobit logic
[2017-04-23 09:59:46] Farzad : thats losers logic
[2017-04-23 09:59:55] Farzad : smart traders will sell it hard
[2017-04-23 09:59:57] Actualiteit : same thing innit? lol
[2017-04-23 10:00:00] Farzad : after the pump
[2017-04-23 10:00:31] Tommy : This greed fueled a 40% pump.
[2017-04-23 10:00:46] Tommy : People still want more.
[2017-04-23 10:01:17] Tommy : $12, then $13, then $14, now $16 is coming.
[2017-04-23 10:02:53] zanza : Litecoin liftoff
[2017-04-23 10:03:27] Tommy : Wonder what proportion of crypto traders lose.
[2017-04-23 10:03:43] Tommy : Seems everyone is making easy money.
[2017-04-23 10:04:10] stf28 : lol btce 19000 buy
[2017-04-23 10:04:31] bingbongfly : Tommy: no, early holders make easy money
[2017-04-23 10:04:35] bingbongfly : many traders lose
[2017-04-23 10:05:08] bingbongfly : Im down $10k usd this year haha
[2017-04-23 10:05:11] bingbongfly : dunno how I managed
[2017-04-23 10:06:14] EastIndiaCompany : bingbongfly: most altcoin holders will loser sooner or alter as well, only good traders and bitcoiners will win long term
[2017-04-23 10:06:18] Tommy : bingbongfly: I made some profit from LTC from $4 and unloaded at $12, $10, then $9.
[2017-04-23 10:06:36] Tommy : Unloaded at the lowest point lol
[2017-04-23 10:06:44] Tommy : Then it pumped to $16...
[2017-04-23 10:06:57] bingbongfly : Tommy: okey? and you are telling me why?
[2017-04-23 10:07:17] Tommy : why?
[2017-04-23 10:08:09] Tommy : I doubt BTC is really irreplaceable. That's why I got in LTC at $4.
[2017-04-23 10:08:25] Tommy : But at $16? wtf...
[2017-04-23 10:08:59] Tommy : Don't tell me someone kept buying and hodling at $4 for years.
[2017-04-23 10:10:13] zenlord : quick W, why does LTC7D trade like 20 points higher than the ltcBTC pairs?
[2017-04-23 10:10:25] zenlord : hahaha i had some from 4$
[2017-04-23 10:10:30] zenlord : like a schmuck
[2017-04-23 10:10:42] zenlord : quick Q*
[2017-04-23 10:11:21] Tetsuo : i have unloaded 80% of my LTC spot @15.30
[2017-04-23 10:12:41] Tommy : zenlord: because people are optimistic?
[2017-04-23 10:13:16] TeSlaR : Huge
[2017-04-23 10:13:18] Tommy : Tetsuo: nice 3x profit
[2017-04-23 10:14:05] Tetsuo : time to relax for a week or so
[2017-04-23 10:16:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `FCT7D`: sell 50 @ 0.005015
[2017-04-23 10:18:40] EastIndiaCompany : boom #rekt
[2017-04-23 10:21:59] Tommy : BTC should pump a bit.
[2017-04-23 10:28:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `LTC7D`: buy 13 @ 0.01303
[2017-04-23 10:28:31] bingbongfly : EastIndiaCompany: I strongly disagree, judging by the exponential growth in Altcoins marketcap I think a diversified holder in any of the top 10 coins will have more purchasing power by the end of the year
[2017-04-23 10:31:13] EastIndiaCompany : Nah that is just speculation, they don't have actual usecases, the bitcoin bubble just brough in a ton of new money. It's very much like the tech bubble or housing bubble, people putting money into things without understanding them
[2017-04-23 10:31:55] EastIndiaCompany : The key for us is to take their money :)
[2017-04-23 10:32:28] EastIndiaCompany : Name of the game, take the money from the news pocket and put it in your own pocket ;)
[2017-04-23 10:32:37] EastIndiaCompany : newbs*
[2017-04-23 10:32:45] EastIndiaCompany : newb's*
[2017-04-23 10:34:43] EastIndiaCompany : Think of it as a reverse tax, money goes from the stupid and lazy to the rich and productive
[2017-04-23 10:35:59] KingTuna : If polo LTC goes > 0.013, I'll play again for a real quick scalp
[2017-04-23 10:37:58] EastIndiaCompany : Yeah segwit is going to be locked in soon
[2017-04-23 10:42:16] emcor : EastIndiaCompany: *like
[2017-04-23 10:44:02] akagai : LTC possible sell off starting
[2017-04-23 10:44:25] emcor : ggwp guys
[2017-04-23 10:44:34] emcor : make sure you take your cash out of this ltc scam
[2017-04-23 10:48:09] shiroe : sell? 50% increase in the last 3 days. 10 to 15. :D
[2017-04-23 10:49:23] emcor : EastIndiaCompany: the credo is: take it from the poor, and give to the rich
[2017-04-23 10:49:32] EastIndiaCompany : exactly
[2017-04-23 10:50:16] EastIndiaCompany : poor people paying for my lambo, voluntarily as well lol
[2017-04-23 10:51:51] bingbongfly : shiroe: yes you are right, a good opportunity to sell and take profit
[2017-04-23 10:52:02] bingbongfly : shiroe: with such a huge increase in value, smart move
[2017-04-23 10:52:23] shiroe : got my profit :D will probably wait till 12.5 to rebuy.
[2017-04-23 10:56:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 80 @ 0.01270
[2017-04-23 11:01:14] gustavo7 : lol LTC
[2017-04-23 11:10:24] rugu : Wow long got rektd on ltc
[2017-04-23 11:19:05] rapidtrades : .price
[2017-04-23 11:19:10] rapidtrades : /price
[2017-04-23 11:19:13] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1238.00 (-0.08%) Bitfinex : 1344.00 (-0.26%) The Woodchipper : 1236.00 (-0.32%) itBit : 1242.57 (-0.03%) Kraken : 1239.90 (-0.25%) GDAX : 1247.64 (0.03%) SLQ : 2 hours, 25 mins```
[2017-04-23 11:33:52] dotdotdot : ETC pumping
[2017-04-23 11:37:36] rapidtrades : cmon bitfinex or chinoya
[2017-04-23 11:37:41] rapidtrades : time to sink this party ship
[2017-04-23 11:38:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETC7D`: buy 339 @ 0.002739
[2017-04-23 12:06:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 28 @ 0.01251
[2017-04-23 12:06:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 100 @ 0.01248
[2017-04-23 12:07:48] EastIndiaCompany : ouch, hehe
[2017-04-23 12:08:00] EastIndiaCompany : you got to learn when to sell my brother
[2017-04-23 12:08:21] rugu : Feels bad for the top liquidation
[2017-04-23 12:13:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 80 @ 0.01216
[2017-04-23 12:26:03] zqooN : Tommy: still here? you can close a short in profit now..
[2017-04-23 12:29:19] Dnavid : hi someone remember what exchanges used in index? Coinbase and which? Thanks
[2017-04-23 12:29:54] shiroe : polo
[2017-04-23 12:29:55] shiroe : :D
[2017-04-23 12:30:15] dotdotdot : bitstamp
[2017-04-23 12:31:49] Dnavid : dotdotdot: thanks. Polo not is it? @shiroe
[2017-04-23 12:32:00] Dnavid : there were only 2 left no?
[2017-04-23 12:33:19] dotdotdot : just 2 now
[2017-04-23 12:33:27] dotdotdot : they are working on a fool proof index though
[2017-04-23 12:41:37] Dnavid : dotdotdot: ok it does look correct
[2017-04-23 12:47:10] laisee : GDAX
[2017-04-23 13:04:53] rugu : Ahh where are my ltc hype buyers
[2017-04-23 13:06:00] wtaler : Hello world :) Does Bitmex round all values to 4 decimals?
[2017-04-23 13:06:58] sleger : no
[2017-04-23 13:07:20] sleger : look at XRP orderbook
[2017-04-23 13:07:26] dotdotdot : Where is ltc going
[2017-04-23 13:07:43] rugu : We need some more buyers
[2017-04-23 13:08:13] wtaler : sleger: yeah, I see it. But my margin and P/L values have 4 decimal places only.
[2017-04-23 13:08:43] sleger : they have more, they are just rounded for display
[2017-04-23 13:09:11] sleger : who cares about a tenth of a thousandth of a bitcoin though
[2017-04-23 13:09:41] stf28 : lol when you round 10000 times it makes one whole
[2017-04-23 13:09:52] sleger : no
[2017-04-23 13:09:53] wtaler : sleger: true. I'll probably not care about it soon enough, but right now, I'm testing Bitmex with 0.01 btc :D
[2017-04-23 13:09:57] sleger : very unlikely @stf28
[2017-04-23 13:10:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 30 @ 0.01199
[2017-04-23 13:11:45] stf28 : sleger: cbitmex calculations are ok cause they are stored as integer values
[2017-04-23 13:12:16] sleger : I know, but that wasnt your point
[2017-04-23 13:12:31] sleger : "stf28: lol when you round 10000 times it makes one whole" <= wrong
[2017-04-23 13:12:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 31 @ 0.01190
[2017-04-23 13:12:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 5 @ 0.01193
[2017-04-23 13:12:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 172 @ 0.01194
[2017-04-23 13:12:50] bingbongfly : oh boy
[2017-04-23 13:12:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 146 @ 0.01187
[2017-04-23 13:13:31] laisee : Has SegWit activated on LTC? Must nbe time to sell
[2017-04-23 13:14:01] bingbongfly : No it has not activated
[2017-04-23 13:14:26] ripcord : 72.91%
[2017-04-23 13:14:37] laisee : Good. Still got time to line up some double spends.
[2017-04-23 13:18:23] EastIndiaCompany : what are you going to double spend?
[2017-04-23 13:18:32] Wonker : Anyone know how long it takes to process the withdrawals please?
[2017-04-23 13:18:35] Wonker : gone!
[2017-04-23 13:18:56] Wonker : DONE!
[2017-04-23 13:21:17] kogroken : wonker: bitmex withdrawals are processed manually once per day if I recall correctly
[2017-04-23 13:23:50] ephuuu : hello, what are fees if I use no leverage?
[2017-04-23 13:25:17] sleger : same than if you do use leverage
[2017-04-23 13:26:28] ephuuu : so just the maker and taker fee, right? no "funding fee" or whatever
[2017-04-23 13:26:51] ephuuu : im new, just starting babypips lol
[2017-04-23 13:27:04] onlyo : /rekt
[2017-04-23 13:27:04] trollbot : ``` 3 recent REKTs > 100K: ``` ``` 10 hours, 2 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 118745 @ 1233.8 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished: ``` ``` 2 days, 21 hours, 10 mins ago: Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 192000 @ 1233.0 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished: ``` ``` 3 days, 15 hours, 26 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 160002 @ 1208.5 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished: ```
[2017-04-23 13:27:21] sleger : fees are based on position size, not leverage
[2017-04-23 13:27:24] sleger : all fees apply
[2017-04-23 13:27:34] onlyo : /help
[2017-04-23 13:27:34] trollbot : `/price`: Shows last trade price of BTC/USD on all major exchanges. `/wall`: Shows ±$30 liquidity on OKCoin, Bitstamp, Bitflyer & Bitfinex `/sentiment`: Shows market sentiment in Sell/Buy ratio. `/rekt`: Shows margin call highlights of the day.
[2017-04-23 13:27:34] trollbot : `/joke`: Shows a short joke from top reddit /r/jokes. `/suggest [TEXT]`: Send a suggestion to author of this bot. `/?` or `/help`: Shows list of commands and description. If you like this bot consider donating to 154DktRHXpiEjwQgJhdWWxw2rnNrHUo9wd
[2017-04-23 13:27:49] onlyo : /wall
[2017-04-23 13:27:49] trollbot : ``` /wall is a paid command now! Pay 100 BTC to Farzad aka GOD.```
[2017-04-23 13:28:13] onlyo : /joke
[2017-04-23 13:28:14] trollbot : ``` 5 out of 6 scientists say… …that Russian roulette is safe.```
[2017-04-23 13:28:52] ephuuu : but if I use no leverage I am not borrowing any money so I don't have to care about "funding fees"? Is there a link for me to understand this thanks
[2017-04-23 13:30:04] sleger : https://www.bitmex.com/app/seriesGuide/XBT
[2017-04-23 13:30:09] sleger : https://www.bitmex.com/app/contract/XBTUSD
[2017-04-23 13:30:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `LTC7D`: buy 1626 @ 0.01235
[2017-04-23 13:30:37] dotdotdot : Big rekt
[2017-04-23 13:30:40] ephuuu : thanks
[2017-04-23 13:30:56] onlyo : not so big
[2017-04-23 13:31:08] onlyo : as my on btc in last new year
[2017-04-23 13:31:42] thomaskikansha : there was one like 8K
[2017-04-23 13:38:36] rapidtrades : china 10.5
[2017-04-23 13:38:53] rapidtrades : the smart not leveraged money isnt buying
[2017-04-23 13:39:37] rapidtrades : 45% premium now
[2017-04-23 13:40:16] bubbagoose : /rekt
[2017-04-23 13:40:16] trollbot : ``` 3 recent REKTs > 100K: ``` ``` 10 hours, 15 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 118745 @ 1233.8 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished: ``` ``` 2 days, 21 hours, 23 mins ago: Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 192000 @ 1233.0 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished: ``` ``` 3 days, 15 hours, 40 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 160002 @ 1208.5 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished: ```
[2017-04-23 13:41:08] rapidtrades : btc prem 20% but most of that is bitfinex pulling idiot arbers higher
[2017-04-23 13:41:28] bingbongfly : "idiot arbers"
[2017-04-23 13:41:29] bingbongfly : jelly
[2017-04-23 13:42:45] rapidtrades : not rly arbers, just ppl like sleger who can't assess counter-party risk
[2017-04-23 13:42:46] ripcord : have to agree with idiot arbers....it's not arb if you can't withdraw
[2017-04-23 13:43:20] sleger : hence why I am not doing it and that idiot of rapid is spreading FUD on me
[2017-04-23 13:43:34] rapidtrades : u arbed okc just weeks ago dummy
[2017-04-23 13:43:42] sleger : withdraws worked
[2017-04-23 13:44:08] rapidtrades : they always work until they don't
[2017-04-23 13:44:17] rapidtrades : then u lose 100%
[2017-04-23 13:44:18] sleger : right so dont trade stay home
[2017-04-23 13:44:26] sleger : in the basement
[2017-04-23 13:44:54] rapidtrades : k
[2017-04-23 13:45:03] sleger : being on a losing streak for months hasnt worked well on your iq
[2017-04-23 13:45:27] rapidtrades : losing streak? u mean the 2 trades u know about
[2017-04-23 13:45:28] bubbagoose : pretty sure these two would argue all night drinking liquor only to end smoking each others cokc
[2017-04-23 13:45:32] rapidtrades : in crypto lol
[2017-04-23 13:46:24] sleger : bubbagoose: keep your fantasies to yourself please
[2017-04-23 13:47:03] rapidtrades : bubbagoose wants my d
[2017-04-23 13:47:57] bubbagoose : they argue like two men that secretly have a crush on the other
[2017-04-23 13:48:06] bubbagoose : cute to watch
[2017-04-23 13:48:09] rapidtrades : btw my LTC exit was 11.4 dummy not 13 @sleger
[2017-04-23 13:48:18] rapidtrades : i broke the segwit agreement in this chat
[2017-04-23 13:48:24] rapidtrades : exited right after
[2017-04-23 13:49:04] sleger : alright just a x3 loss, not too bad
[2017-04-23 13:50:46] olimano1 : whats the difference between futures and swap?
[2017-04-23 13:52:11] ripcord : rtfm
[2017-04-23 13:53:18] sleger : read that fantastic manual
[2017-04-23 13:53:47] sleger : I voted yesterday !
[2017-04-23 13:53:51] sleger : 1.5 hour wait
[2017-04-23 13:54:05] Dnavid : a little correction on btc coming?
[2017-04-23 13:54:14] ripcord : olimano1: https://www.bitmex.com/app/faq
[2017-04-23 13:54:40] dotdotdot : Btc dump? I approve
[2017-04-23 13:55:48] Dnavid : dotdotdot: +1
[2017-04-23 14:05:50] MikeHunt : neeed meer pemp b4 demp
[2017-04-23 14:07:19] rugu : damn, i panicked sold ltc on the drop
[2017-04-23 14:07:21] rugu : minor loss :(
[2017-04-23 14:09:29] rapidtrades : prolly right call
[2017-04-23 14:10:06] rugu : I went long again though at 0.01210
[2017-04-23 14:10:21] rapidtrades : prolly not the right call
[2017-04-23 14:10:31] rugu : woops. that drop
[2017-04-23 14:41:49] Yuppie : anyone experience with tier3 at Kraken? Taking 2 weeks now...
[2017-04-23 14:44:33] oo : i verifyed tier 4 at Kraken
[2017-04-23 14:46:28] sleger : lucky they dont do grammar tests !
[2017-04-23 14:47:26] oo : andI verifyed level2 at OKC.int.
[2017-04-23 14:48:07] oo : and enhanced verification is completed at poloniex
[2017-04-23 14:48:13] oo : haha
[2017-04-23 14:52:24] sleger : impressive resume
[2017-04-23 14:53:02] bingbongfly : wait, premium on quart finally back?!
[2017-04-23 14:53:04] bingbongfly : what am I seeing
[2017-04-23 14:53:11] bingbongfly : the world makes sense now
[2017-04-23 14:53:48] bingbongfly : Yuppie: took 2 days for me :D
[2017-04-23 14:55:32] Yuppie : oo: OK was OK as well. I haven't even received feedback from Kraken. Very annoying, now there is an amazing time for arb
[2017-04-23 14:56:47] oo : Yuppie: it tooks 1 week for me from tier1 to tier4. I think it's because my Id card is written Korean.
[2017-04-23 14:57:01] oo : witten in korena
[2017-04-23 14:57:06] oo : ooooo
[2017-04-23 14:57:18] Coconuter : sleger, remove your wall from gdax
[2017-04-23 14:57:20] Coconuter : let it burn
[2017-04-23 14:57:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTM17`: buy 8000 @ 1254.4
[2017-04-23 14:57:50] oo : maybe, you should send email to support at Kranken
[2017-04-23 15:03:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 10 @ 0.01197
[2017-04-23 15:03:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 129 @ 0.01195
[2017-04-23 15:06:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 2481 @ 0.01192
[2017-04-23 15:08:15] shillosopher : ltc ded
[2017-04-23 15:08:29] rugu : i frgt to close part of my long
[2017-04-23 15:08:53] rugu : it should bounce up in a few hours
[2017-04-23 15:11:22] miccheck12 : /price
[2017-04-23 15:11:24] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1237.60 (-0.03%) Bitfinex : 1348.00 (0.30%) The Woodchipper : 1233.30 (-0.22%) itBit : 1242.90 (0.03%) Kraken : 1243.07 (0.26%) GDAX : 1250.00 (0.19%) SLQ : 3 hours, 52 mins```
[2017-04-23 15:12:19] oo : okc resume fiat wire transfer????
[2017-04-23 15:12:53] miccheck12 : etf approved
[2017-04-23 15:13:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 1801 @ 0.01176
[2017-04-23 15:13:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 7 @ 0.01171
[2017-04-23 15:13:39] shillosopher : ltc gettin rekt
[2017-04-23 15:13:52] oo : ltc
[2017-04-23 15:13:58] Dnavid : dotdotdot: maybe no btc dump after all
[2017-04-23 15:14:04] rugu : Think it will go up or the hype is finally over
[2017-04-23 15:14:49] oo : miccheck12: etf?
[2017-04-23 15:14:59] miccheck12 : sry lame joke
[2017-04-23 15:20:39] Diplomata : /price
[2017-04-23 15:20:43] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1238.91 (0.11%) Bitfinex : 1352.00 (0.30%) The Woodchipper : 1237.42 (0.33%) itBit : 1243.47 (0.05%) Kraken : 1243.99 (0.07%) GDAX : 1250.00 (0.00%) SLQ : 9 mins```
[2017-04-23 15:21:25] Diplomata : 1367 on polo...
[2017-04-23 15:21:36] Diplomata : wtf
[2017-04-23 15:22:13] kogroken : Don't they use USDT there, instead of USD?
[2017-04-23 15:23:18] miccheck12 : yes
[2017-04-23 15:24:55] oo : and There is a problem exchanging USDT into USD.
[2017-04-23 15:25:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `LTC7D`: buy 170 @ 0.01189
[2017-04-23 15:25:10] miccheck12 : yes
[2017-04-23 15:26:16] oo : usdt is trash
[2017-04-23 15:26:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `LTC7D`: buy 10 @ 0.01196
[2017-04-23 15:26:24] Actualiteit : usdt is glorious
[2017-04-23 15:26:38] Actualiteit : you get 0.91 dollar for your 1 dollar
[2017-04-23 15:26:51] oo : haha
[2017-04-23 15:26:58] oo : kkkk
[2017-04-23 15:27:03] Actualiteit : thats how you do business
[2017-04-23 15:27:23] oo : yes. that's it
[2017-04-23 15:27:42] Actualiteit : imma make EURT
[2017-04-23 15:31:12] Tetsuo : wow new ATH @ polo and Bitfinex
[2017-04-23 15:31:50] rapidtrades : /price
[2017-04-23 15:31:52] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1243.00 (0.33%) Bitfinex : 1355.30 (0.24%) The Woodchipper : 1244.41 (0.56%) itBit : 1243.47 (0.00%) Kraken : 1244.89 (0.07%) GDAX : 1250.00 (0.00%) SLQ : 11 mins```
[2017-04-23 15:32:03] Actualiteit : looks fine to me
[2017-04-23 15:32:21] oo : I saw the Tether homepage in Feburary. a I found a problem. The amount of usd reserves of tether is less than the amount of usd tether circulating.
[2017-04-23 15:32:57] Actualiteit : oo: nothing to see bro it's just anticipating future use keep buying.
[2017-04-23 15:33:07] sleger : as long as not everyone withdraws then it's a non issue : all good !
[2017-04-23 15:33:14] Actualiteit : exactly
[2017-04-23 15:33:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTM17`: buy 900 @ 1259.0
[2017-04-23 15:33:52] dotdotdot : Quarterly so bullish
[2017-04-23 15:33:58] oo : sleger: yeah
[2017-04-23 15:34:16] sleger : dotdotdot: bullish would be 100-200$ premium, we are not there yet
[2017-04-23 15:39:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `LTC7D`: buy 25 @ 0.01212
[2017-04-23 15:41:26] robit : sleger: praise kek if it happens. free 40k for me
[2017-04-23 15:48:04] EastIndiaCompany : Is bitmex going to offer derivatives for non-crypto producs (forex, commodities, equities)?
[2017-04-23 15:53:41] oo : EastIndiaCompany: Never heard of it.
[2017-04-23 15:56:15] MikeHunt : EastIndiaCompany: can use other sites for that, liquidity here is usually pretty shit even for crypto
[2017-04-23 15:56:35] oo : if bitmex offers gold/btc, crude oil/btc, sugar... derivatives in the future, it's gonna be wonderful.
[2017-04-23 15:57:21] MikeHunt : oo: 1broker already does
[2017-04-23 15:57:43] oo : MikeHunt: Yeah?
[2017-04-23 15:57:53] MikeHunt : oo: yarp
[2017-04-23 15:58:10] L9 : Yeah, but 1 broker platform is not convenient. I lkie BitMex much more
[2017-04-23 15:58:20] oo : I didn't know. wow
[2017-04-23 15:58:24] premium_freak : 1broker overnight fees are high
[2017-04-23 15:59:07] premium_freak : I held oil there for a while, it was the only asset that had no overnight fees
[2017-04-23 15:59:17] premium_freak : but now oil has a fee too
[2017-04-23 15:59:50] L9 : Here I am paying just swap and thats it. 1broker fees will destroy depo
[2017-04-23 16:00:51] MikeHunt : simplyfx is another
[2017-04-23 16:01:06] MikeHunt : simplefx*
[2017-04-23 16:01:10] L9 : No slippage, no requotes, guys are doing good job :)
[2017-04-23 16:01:17] L9 : in bitmex
[2017-04-23 16:02:10] L9 : with forex I don't understand why I should pay spread, Comission or swap is understable
[2017-04-23 16:02:26] L9 : *understandable
[2017-04-23 16:02:49] MikeHunt : if they can rape, they will rape
[2017-04-23 16:05:37] EastIndiaCompany : im *not* a rapist from the ethereum foundation and not involved with their insane activities
[2017-04-23 16:07:00] oo : i've look at the 1broker. it seems that they do not offer derivatives based on bitcoins.
[2017-04-23 16:09:15] oo : there is already CME futures!. if 1broker do not offer btc based derivative, they're useless.
[2017-04-23 16:10:44] MikeHunt : 1broker seems alright if ur not using lvg
[2017-04-23 16:10:52] MikeHunt : just wanna trade com/stock etc.
[2017-04-23 16:12:03] oo : MikeHunt: yesyes. What I want to say is that they are not special.
[2017-04-23 16:12:17] EastIndiaCompany : A 24/7 liquid derivatives platform with commodities/forex/equities funded by BTC would be sick
[2017-04-23 16:12:36] MikeHunt : EastIndiaCompany: i think its inevitable
[2017-04-23 16:12:43] MikeHunt : as traditional methods are expensie
[2017-04-23 16:13:22] EastIndiaCompany : well the whole 24/7 would also be a new feature
[2017-04-23 16:13:38] EastIndiaCompany : having 24/7 access to the equities markets
[2017-04-23 16:15:23] EastIndiaCompany : would also open up a ton of insider trading, since BTC funding is anonymous
[2017-04-23 16:16:18] dotdotdot : tank ltc tank
[2017-04-23 16:18:30] Ahhere : dotdotdot: tweet the Chinese miners to stop signalling segwit
[2017-04-23 16:19:26] dotdotdot : LTC.top stopped signalling
[2017-04-23 16:19:33] rugu : when?
[2017-04-23 16:19:46] dotdotdot : 10 minutes ago
[2017-04-23 16:21:26] rugu : http://imgur.com/a/fzRmF lol
[2017-04-23 16:23:30] KingTuna : rugu: lol
[2017-04-23 16:26:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `XRP7D`: sell 190122 @ 0.00002582
[2017-04-23 16:26:12] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 1 @ 1248.6 :punch: :whale:
[2017-04-23 16:26:12] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 11184 @ 1248.5
[2017-04-23 16:27:27] oo : LTC is crazy
[2017-04-23 16:27:35] REKT : Liquidated short on `LTC7D`: buy 50 @ 0.01196
[2017-04-23 16:34:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 200 @ 0.01182
[2017-04-23 16:36:29] Aegis : so how does it feel to baghold rocks and chickens in your portfolio?
[2017-04-23 16:36:43] premium_freak : so far, pretty good
[2017-04-23 16:39:28] rugu : anyone with a position now?
[2017-04-23 16:40:47] premium_freak : I'm holding LTC
[2017-04-23 16:41:49] rugu : dip seems to be getting deeper and deeper now
[2017-04-23 16:43:59] premium_freak : even if LTC.top drops out, we should still be able to activate SW
[2017-04-23 16:45:08] oo : LiteCoin Segregated Witness (SegWit) Adoption Last 24 hours: 96.4% out of 582 blocks
[2017-04-23 16:45:21] oo : http://litecoin-segwit.info
[2017-04-23 16:45:53] premium_freak : 73% currently for the period
[2017-04-23 16:46:27] oo : LiteCoin Segregated Witness (SegWit) Adoption Last 24 hours: 96.4% out of 582 blocks Activation Period: 6 4104 blocks with SegWit signal mined (72.8%), 1944 to go: 80.2% of next 2425 blocks to lock SegWit last update: 2017-04-23 14:17:00 UTC
[2017-04-23 16:49:00] Clock : /price
[2017-04-23 16:49:09] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1240.36 (-0.21%) Bitfinex : 1349.60 (-0.42%) The Woodchipper : 1234.00 (-0.84%) itBit : 1245.87 (0.19%) Kraken : 1244.43 (-0.04%) GDAX : 1253.74 (0.30%) SLQ : 1 hour, 17 mins```
[2017-04-23 16:50:07] CryptoWealth : Hello, I downloaded a cvs of my transaction history for taxes and don' understand what the numbers represent?
[2017-04-23 16:50:42] CryptoWealth : not sure why the number values look so high, what is it measuring exactly?
[2017-04-23 16:52:14] CryptoWealth : for example... an affiliate payout of 0.0110 BTC states 1521916 as the number on the cvs
[2017-04-23 16:52:55] MikeHunt : CryptoWealth: taxes?
[2017-04-23 16:53:16] mbaril : CryptoWealth: wow you are one of the few to declare BTC for taxes
[2017-04-23 16:53:31] CryptoWealth : My income is 100% crypto
[2017-04-23 16:53:35] oo : CryptoWealth: go to FAQ or support
[2017-04-23 16:53:40] rugu : wow really?
[2017-04-23 16:54:21] MikeHunt : CryptoWealth: one could take minimum in cash to declare
[2017-04-23 16:54:27] MikeHunt : then buy stuff with crypto
[2017-04-23 16:54:28] MikeHunt : with rest
[2017-04-23 16:54:30] CryptoWealth : Yes, so unless I;m accurate and pro-active I'll get raped by having money miraculously show up in my bank
[2017-04-23 16:54:52] oo : CryptoWealth: where do you live???
[2017-04-23 16:55:07] CryptoWealth : that would work if I didn't already withdraw $50K to pay bills
[2017-04-23 16:55:17] MikeHunt : CryptoWealth: america?
[2017-04-23 16:55:21] CryptoWealth : Canada
[2017-04-23 16:55:40] MikeHunt : CryptoWealth: iirc u only need to declare what u withdraw
[2017-04-23 16:55:41] CryptoWealth : I'll contact support, I figured they were in the chat
[2017-04-23 16:55:50] CryptoWealth : thanks :-)
[2017-04-23 16:56:03] MikeHunt : CryptoWealth: in canada is btc handled as income or capital gains?
[2017-04-23 16:56:04] premium_freak : MikeHunt: you need to pay taxes over every trade you make, even if it's btc to some other cryptocurrency
[2017-04-23 16:56:11] CryptoWealth : both
[2017-04-23 16:56:18] CryptoWealth : depends on the nature of the transaction
[2017-04-23 16:56:27] rugu : Not if its counted as capital gains, then you may only if you cash out the profit
[2017-04-23 16:56:28] BitMEX_Sam : CryptoWealth: The numbers are in satoshis.
[2017-04-23 16:56:37] MikeHunt : premium_freak: depends where u live
[2017-04-23 16:56:54] oo : I don't need to pay taxes here.
[2017-04-23 16:56:55] BitMEX_Sam : Switch your Currency Display to Satoshis (click your username at the top right) and the CSV will line up with your Wallet History.
[2017-04-23 16:56:57] MikeHunt : in UK its classed as capital gains so u only pay wen u cash out
[2017-04-23 16:57:18] MikeHunt : also taxed at lower rate thn income
[2017-04-23 16:57:56] CryptoWealth : @Sam, in Satoshis? Hmmm strange way of doing it because the cvs doesn't state that and that could end up getting misconstrued as dollars
[2017-04-23 16:58:09] BitMEX_Sam : CryptoWealth: We don't display *anything* in dollars, why would you assume that?
[2017-04-23 16:58:23] CryptoWealth : I don;t assume that
[2017-04-23 16:58:28] BitMEX_Sam : Satoshis make perfect sense, they are the lowest divisible unit of the only currency we account in, Bitcoin
[2017-04-23 16:58:41] MikeHunt : paying taxes in canada sounds a lot like paying it in US, a real pain in the ass
[2017-04-23 16:58:46] EastIndiaCompany : Bitcoin Meisterrace!
[2017-04-23 16:58:59] CryptoWealth : I understand Sam, I'll just have to explain to the accountant
[2017-04-23 16:59:10] EastIndiaCompany : Why do you pay taxes on BTC?
[2017-04-23 16:59:18] CryptoWealth : thanks for the reply
[2017-04-23 16:59:29] BitMEX_Sam : :+1:
[2017-04-23 16:59:43] CryptoWealth : Cheers! Happy trading !
[2017-04-23 16:59:53] MikeHunt : EastIndiaCompany: he lives off btc
[2017-04-23 17:00:11] EastIndiaCompany : Sure, still, why would you pay taxes
[2017-04-23 17:00:15] rugu : wow don't know many people who live off crypto
[2017-04-23 17:00:25] rugu : EastIndiaCompany: Cause its counted as income
[2017-04-23 17:00:26] MikeHunt : EastIndiaCompany: without a front job its sorta hard to conseal that money
[2017-04-23 17:00:51] rugu : wire transfers make it almost impossible to
[2017-04-23 17:01:05] MikeHunt : u could conceal most of it by staying out of the "system" and buy with btc but u cant rly do that will bills
[2017-04-23 17:01:19] EastIndiaCompany : You could cash out on localbitcoins
[2017-04-23 17:01:22] rugu : you cant pay utility bills via btc sadly
[2017-04-23 17:01:38] MikeHunt : EastIndiaCompany: problem is all that is easy to see
[2017-04-23 17:01:49] EastIndiaCompany : LBC is not easy to see
[2017-04-23 17:01:54] EastIndiaCompany : not dealing in cash anyway
[2017-04-23 17:01:59] rugu : he meant for irs
[2017-04-23 17:02:00] MikeHunt : EastIndiaCompany: if u got no job but loads of money and paying no tax its very suspicious
[2017-04-23 17:02:04] onlyo : /settlement
[2017-04-23 17:02:10] rugu : they see a guy with no job, paying all bills, getting a new car etc.
[2017-04-23 17:02:21] rugu : uncle sam's gonna come knocking for their share
[2017-04-23 17:02:30] MikeHunt : personally i'd just move to a btc friendly country
[2017-04-23 17:02:33] onlyo : /help
[2017-04-23 17:02:33] trollbot : `/price`: Shows last trade price of BTC/USD on all major exchanges. `/wall`: Shows ±$30 liquidity on OKCoin, Bitstamp, Bitflyer & Bitfinex `/sentiment`: Shows market sentiment in Sell/Buy ratio. `/rekt`: Shows margin call highlights of the day.
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[2017-04-23 17:02:36] EastIndiaCompany : Well thats the problem of living in the US or Canada then
[2017-04-23 17:02:41] onlyo : /sentiment
[2017-04-23 17:02:44] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 48.65 / 51.35 Daily : 44.56 / 55.44 Weekly : 43.48 / 56.52 Monthly : 47.21 / 52.79```
[2017-04-23 17:02:48] rapidtrades : unless ur new car is a ferrary noone cares
[2017-04-23 17:02:50] onlyo : /sentiment
[2017-04-23 17:02:50] MikeHunt : UK is prob nearest btc friendly country
[2017-04-23 17:02:52] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 48.65 / 51.35 Daily : 44.56 / 55.44 Weekly : 43.48 / 56.52 Monthly : 47.21 / 52.79```
[2017-04-23 17:02:56] rugu : It is taxed in India as well
[2017-04-23 17:02:58] oo : bitmex is not in canada. but he must pay taxes. that's strange.
[2017-04-23 17:03:18] MikeHunt : unfortunately some governments class it as income
[2017-04-23 17:03:33] MikeHunt : canada is also a socialist country so high taxes on income
[2017-04-23 17:03:40] bubbagoose : this is gambling lol lol lol
[2017-04-23 17:03:43] rugu : tradng btc is same as trading USD/EUR pair
[2017-04-23 17:03:48] rugu : in the eyes of the law
[2017-04-23 17:03:56] rugu : so both are taxed equally
[2017-04-23 17:04:48] MikeHunt : bubbagoose: speculation for the big earners
[2017-04-23 17:04:52] oo : We could pay a double tax of the local government and governments where the exchange is located in the future.
[2017-04-23 17:04:58] MikeHunt : bubbagoose: gamblers dont usually last long here
[2017-04-23 17:05:39] MikeHunt : oo: by time btc becomes that centralized i think people will move elsewhere
[2017-04-23 17:05:43] MikeHunt : to other cryptos
[2017-04-23 17:05:50] MikeHunt : more decentralized exchanges like LBC
[2017-04-23 17:06:29] oo : MikeHunt: maybe
[2017-04-23 17:09:45] rapidtrades : /price
[2017-04-23 17:09:49] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1236.33 (-0.32%) Bitfinex : 1343.70 (-0.44%) The Woodchipper : 1232.47 (-0.12%) itBit : 1243.40 (-0.20%) Kraken : 1244.04 (-0.03%) GDAX : 1250.32 (-0.27%) SLQ : 20 mins```
[2017-04-23 17:09:57] MikeHunt : oo: also basing btc exchanges in the right countries helps a lot
[2017-04-23 17:10:04] MikeHunt : HK = low tax
[2017-04-23 17:11:31] premium_freak : LTC.top flagged SW again - all is well
[2017-04-23 17:11:41] oo : MikeHunt: So many exchanges are in Hong Kong and Singapore.
[2017-04-23 17:12:13] oo : And the exchanges are popular.
[2017-04-23 17:12:38] oo : such as Quoin, OKC.int, bitmex
[2017-04-23 17:14:16] thomaskikansha : premium_freak: small bear trap out there
[2017-04-23 17:15:48] oo : I think bitmex is the best about derivatives trading. okcoin future price is disrupted because of chinese exchange halting widrawaaal
[2017-04-23 17:16:24] rugu : I always get cuaght in these fckn bear traps
[2017-04-23 17:16:25] premium_freak : the other issue with okc is that they just seem to make up their own index price
[2017-04-23 17:17:48] oo : And on the expiry date, the future will be paid off at the price of the index.
[2017-04-23 17:22:44] rapidtrades : http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-23/north-korea-arrests-us-citizen-threatens-sink-us-aircraft-carrier-japan-deploys-wars
[2017-04-23 17:28:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTM17`: sell 8649 @ 1245.5
[2017-04-23 17:29:02] dotdotdot : here comes the BTC dump
[2017-04-23 17:46:46] dotdotdot : ETH/USD BBANDS tight
[2017-04-23 17:46:52] dotdotdot : wonder when the next pump will start
[2017-04-23 17:49:48] MikeHunt : dotdotdot: didnt u say that earlier?
[2017-04-23 17:51:25] dotdotdot : Yup slow motion btc dump
[2017-04-23 17:51:34] dotdotdot : Starts and stops
[2017-04-23 17:53:28] oo : REKT is the ruler of trading,the kinggodgeneralemperormajesty.
[2017-04-23 17:56:53] thomaskikansha : btc boring
[2017-04-23 17:59:03] dotdotdot : china btc down 3% today
[2017-04-23 18:18:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 9 @ 0.01225
[2017-04-23 18:25:28] alfaCharlie : What is btc doing
[2017-04-23 18:25:29] alfaCharlie : ?
[2017-04-23 18:25:44] kogroken : Chopping
[2017-04-23 18:25:47] Actualiteit : alfaCharlie: btc is being traded
[2017-04-23 18:25:53] Actualiteit : n screwing
[2017-04-23 18:26:05] kogroken : Keep head low when chopper activated
[2017-04-23 18:26:18] Actualiteit : alfaCharlie: a better question would be "what is usdt doing?"
[2017-04-23 18:28:17] alfaCharlie : Actualiteit: do u have the answer to that ?
[2017-04-23 18:28:21] alfaCharlie : hihihi
[2017-04-23 18:28:45] alfaCharlie : crypto world is messed up
[2017-04-23 18:29:23] alfaCharlie : Very entertaining to watch but hard to make trading decisions
[2017-04-23 18:35:48] Actualiteit : The answer is for you to be found my child.
[2017-04-23 18:40:00] alfaCharlie : http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-JmTDR1jQKmA/VbDfgHn0XwI/AAAAAAAAAqE/BAHl0CXTL_s/s1600/Funny-forex-have-a-rest.jpg
[2017-04-23 18:41:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `FCT7D`: buy 20 @ 0.005272
[2017-04-23 18:45:52] DCCinvestor : Can someone explain how cross margin could produce a larger ROE %?
[2017-04-23 18:53:15] DCCinvestor : I have 13 contracts bought @ 1242.8, liquidation @ 318.5, margin @ 0.0001 XBT (cross), and ROE @ 38.36%
[2017-04-23 18:53:17] dotdotdot : because it is using the max leverage on cross
[2017-04-23 18:53:40] dotdotdot : it uses your whole account balance as margin
[2017-04-23 18:59:03] rapidtrades : /price
[2017-04-23 18:59:04] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1241.49 (0.42%) Bitfinex : 1345.10 (0.10%) The Woodchipper : 1223.84 (-0.70%) itBit : 1244.91 (0.12%) Kraken : 1244.22 (0.01%) GDAX : 1252.87 (0.20%) SLQ : 1 hour, 49 mins```
[2017-04-23 18:59:58] rapidtrades : there are major pools holding large amounts of LTC
[2017-04-23 19:00:06] rapidtrades : wonder when they're gonna dump
[2017-04-23 19:00:43] DCCinvestor : okay so by using cross margin I'm taking a lower risk on my position correct?
[2017-04-23 19:00:45] rapidtrades : that jump from $4 to $8 was all insider buying by f2pool maybe others
[2017-04-23 19:01:10] rapidtrades : took a lot of money to fush out shorts defending multi-year levels
[2017-04-23 19:01:57] rapidtrades : maybe they can unload on the putzes coming in late
[2017-04-23 19:02:23] dotdotdot : most likely
[2017-04-23 19:02:37] dotdotdot : coordinate a segwit activation + coinbase addition
[2017-04-23 19:02:47] dotdotdot : for the blow off $30 candle
[2017-04-23 19:03:40] rapidtrades : 30 my ass
[2017-04-23 19:04:40] rapidtrades : its already at 45% premium to china, at some point it will get dragged down by arbers
[2017-04-23 19:04:52] rapidtrades : the same morans longing here cos of finex
[2017-04-23 19:05:26] DCCinvestor : Morans? lol couldn't even insult those morons if you tried lol
[2017-04-23 19:05:43] rapidtrades : i just did
[2017-04-23 19:05:48] rapidtrades : moran
[2017-04-23 19:05:53] DCCinvestor : haha
[2017-04-23 19:06:10] DCCinvestor : couldnt resist pointing that out
[2017-04-23 19:06:39] dotdotdot : nice ltc dump on poloniex
[2017-04-23 19:06:47] dotdotdot : TO THE CORE
[2017-04-23 19:09:37] rapidtrades : strange okc quoting at $14 btce $15
[2017-04-23 19:09:45] rapidtrades : while their BTC is at premium
[2017-04-23 19:10:18] rapidtrades : maybe futures-spot arbers already bringing down the gap?
[2017-04-23 19:10:34] rapidtrades : or f2pool selling?
[2017-04-23 19:11:09] rapidtrades : wish i had the balls to short LTC here
[2017-04-23 19:11:47] rapidtrades : I think we need a BTC catalyst to kill this speculative mania, like finex going down or china withdrawals
[2017-04-23 19:11:48] dotdotdot : better spot was 0.013 earlier
[2017-04-23 19:12:12] rapidtrades : once bitcoin dies, all will follow
[2017-04-23 19:12:16] rapidtrades : except maybe ETH
[2017-04-23 19:12:22] dotdotdot : okc btc spot getting hit hard
[2017-04-23 19:12:23] dotdotdot : today
[2017-04-23 19:12:47] dotdotdot : no one is following them any more though
[2017-04-23 19:12:53] dotdotdot : down 3.5%
[2017-04-23 19:12:59] dotdotdot : while stamp is up 0.4%
[2017-04-23 19:13:24] rapidtrades : oh i see that, premium gone
[2017-04-23 19:13:36] rapidtrades : has to be some insider shit then
[2017-04-23 19:13:48] rapidtrades : maybe they will allow withdrawals and are positioning accordingly
[2017-04-23 19:14:10] dotdotdot : i thought you would buy if they were going to enable withdraws
[2017-04-23 19:14:31] dotdotdot : on china exchanges
[2017-04-23 19:14:37] rapidtrades : okc usd
[2017-04-23 19:14:43] rapidtrades : /price
[2017-04-23 19:14:45] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1240.07 (-0.11%) Bitfinex : 1343.10 (-0.15%) The Woodchipper : 1222.99 (-0.07%) itBit : 1244.97 (0.00%) Kraken : 1245.00 (0.06%) GDAX : 1252.99 (0.01%) SLQ : 15 mins```
[2017-04-23 19:14:48] rapidtrades : ^preium gone
[2017-04-23 19:15:03] dotdotdot : okcoin.com that is
[2017-04-23 19:15:05] rapidtrades : u sell west, buy china
[2017-04-23 19:15:28] dotdotdot : i was talking about okcoin.cn