This is a mirror of the original BitMEX trollbox archive that used to be online here.
BitMEX disabled their archive after the DDOS attack so I have decided to make my mirror publicly available.

Well now, a few days after I made this mirror available to the public, the original archive from BitMEX is online again.
But since it is still limited (neutered to the last few hundred messages) I will keep my FULL mirror alive.

You have access to more than 50 million trollbox posts. This is more than 7 gigabyte of data hosted on a $5 server so please be patient or consider a donation

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[2017-04-22 21:56:36] sleger : so no surprise
[2017-04-22 21:56:40] Farzad : lol
[2017-04-22 21:56:43] Tetsuo : /suggest trollbot should only react to joke
[2017-04-22 21:56:43] trollbot : Thanks! got your suggestion buddy :D
[2017-04-22 21:56:45] Farzad : u all hate eachother
[2017-04-22 21:56:53] Tetsuo : Farzad: no we just hate you and mark
[2017-04-22 21:56:54] sleger : no
[2017-04-22 21:57:01] Farzad : /listbans
[2017-04-22 21:57:01] trollbot : ``` ["wurstgelee","jesus-christ-saves","jolin","btc-noob","@cmwprice","derreck","alejandromasari","rrhddg","consol","yoyo123","emcor","pazuzu","qr","dorianwhack-b-moto","ubba","el0well"," invaliduser","shoba","winklevoss","drbrule","boon","alcapone","alcapone@"]```
[2017-04-22 21:57:05] sleger : i am fine with tetsuo, aethlios, j8, rapid (sometimes)
[2017-04-22 21:57:08] Tetsuo : and most of trollbot commands
[2017-04-22 21:57:14] Farzad : /ban Tetsuo
[2017-04-22 21:57:15] trollbot : ``` Tetsuo has been banned```
[2017-04-22 21:57:17] sleger : and a lot of others
[2017-04-22 21:57:20] MikeHunt : problem with tetsuo is he bans everyone
[2017-04-22 21:57:36] sleger : "alejandromasari" is banned wonder who did that lol
[2017-04-22 21:57:44] Tetsuo : <---
[2017-04-22 21:57:52] sleger : good job
[2017-04-22 21:57:55] sleger : best mod
[2017-04-22 21:58:05] Tetsuo : j8 that positive human lover unbanned a lot of idiots
[2017-04-22 21:58:18] Tetsuo : maybe he ain´t a god mod
[2017-04-22 21:58:23] rapidtrades : guys don't fight
[2017-04-22 21:58:23] Tetsuo : *good
[2017-04-22 21:58:29] sleger : he unbanned me like 3 times, although i have almost never requested anything from the bot
[2017-04-22 21:58:39] shillosopher : half this chat is bickering
[2017-04-22 21:58:48] Actualiteit : shillosopher: oi fite me m8
[2017-04-22 21:58:51] Tetsuo : rapidtrades @shillosopher : fukk yourself you son of a bitch
[2017-04-22 21:58:52] Farzad : any good rekts recently ?
[2017-04-22 21:58:54] Farzad : :D
[2017-04-22 21:58:59] Farzad : /rrekt
[2017-04-22 21:58:59] trollbot : ``` 3 all time high REKTs: ``` ``` 13 days, 6 hours, 4 mins ago: Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 833000 @ 1199.3 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire: ``` ``` 36 days, 18 hours, 21 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 689089 @ 1126.18 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire: ``` ``` 35 days, 6 hours, 27 mins ago: Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 656927 @ 985.40 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire: ```
[2017-04-22 21:59:00] Ahhere : No it's not @shillosopher
[2017-04-22 21:59:01] shillosopher : Actualiteit: come at me bro!
[2017-04-22 21:59:26] shillosopher : Ahhere: lol
[2017-04-22 22:01:00] Farzad : bitfinex is $100 above the market
[2017-04-22 22:01:02] Ahhere : Btcdjs must be sick of bitmex trollbox shit.
[2017-04-22 22:01:25] Farzad : easy money if u think its problems will be resolved
[2017-04-22 22:01:26] rapidtrades : BTCDJS only comes during bull markets
[2017-04-22 22:01:40] Tetsuo : Farzad: your future ain´t exactly lookin bright
[2017-04-22 22:01:50] rapidtrades : he has a lot of discipline to stay out
[2017-04-22 22:01:56] Farzad : Tetsuo: why ?
[2017-04-22 22:01:59] Tetsuo : BTCDJS talked way too much, good he´s gone, probably rekt
[2017-04-22 22:02:08] Tetsuo : Farzad: watch your back
[2017-04-22 22:02:14] Farzad : lol
[2017-04-22 22:02:25] Farzad : you watch your front :p
[2017-04-22 22:02:35] Farzad : I am a man and dont come from back side
[2017-04-22 22:02:35] Ahhere : Tetsuo: your mean
[2017-04-22 22:03:16] Tetsuo : new ATH for BTC/USD <3
[2017-04-22 22:03:21] Tetsuo : show some love
[2017-04-22 22:04:02] Actualiteit : meh
[2017-04-22 22:04:36] Ahhere : Btcusdt
[2017-04-22 22:05:07] Farzad : new ATH in bitfinex
[2017-04-22 22:05:09] Farzad : meaningless
[2017-04-22 22:05:29] Tetsuo : can one convert USDT into BFX equities, that might solve some problems
[2017-04-22 22:05:43] Ahhere : Etf must be approved after all who knew
[2017-04-22 22:06:28] aethlios : finex 303 usd above china
[2017-04-22 22:06:33] Actualiteit : usdt is not even 1 doller tho
[2017-04-22 22:06:39] Actualiteit : so is it acvutally a ath
[2017-04-22 22:06:42] Actualiteit : fuck i need sleep
[2017-04-22 22:06:51] Farzad : look at BTC funding rate in bitfinex ! lol
[2017-04-22 22:06:57] Farzad : you can make a fortune there
[2017-04-22 22:07:01] shillosopher : people keep saying finex price is meaningless. People keep following finex's price lol
[2017-04-22 22:07:03] Farzad : just lend your BTC
[2017-04-22 22:07:25] sleger : which idiot has BTC on finex ??
[2017-04-22 22:07:35] Ahhere : Actualiteit: $0.944119
[2017-04-22 22:07:38] Farzad : 0.25% daily
[2017-04-22 22:07:49] rapidtrades : /price
[2017-04-22 22:07:50] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1244.99 (0.04%) Bitfinex : 1351.60 (0.49%) The Woodchipper : 1268.05 (0.20%) itBit : 1246.00 (0.09%) Kraken : 1248.28 (0.26%) GDAX : 1252.03 (0.16%) SLQ : 12 mins```
[2017-04-22 22:08:06] sleger : yes 0.25%, and there's a reason, who is dumb enough to have btc there and not withdraw ?
[2017-04-22 22:08:07] Farzad : 7.5% monthly. no trade required :D
[2017-04-22 22:08:13] rapidtrades : soon we're gonna start falling on finex pumping
[2017-04-22 22:08:22] MikeHunt : "and god slayeth thy usurers on fingox and it was good" - rapid 3:16
[2017-04-22 22:08:28] rapidtrades : these are distressed levels of premium
[2017-04-22 22:08:37] Farzad : I withdrew all my funds but I dont think they will fall
[2017-04-22 22:08:48] Farzad : I think they are solvent
[2017-04-22 22:08:52] MikeHunt : faith is what keeps fingox alive for now
[2017-04-22 22:09:18] Ahhere : Maybe they announce new bank partners Monday what happens then
[2017-04-22 22:09:38] Farzad : I wonder why they dont use bitUSD
[2017-04-22 22:09:48] sleger : why bitmex still hasnt listed a usdt/usd ??
[2017-04-22 22:09:53] Farzad : bitUSD will resolve a lot of their problems
[2017-04-22 22:10:21] Ahhere : sleger: edgy
[2017-04-22 22:10:51] sleger : ?
[2017-04-22 22:11:29] hmmmYea : i still have btc there. i think its fine.
[2017-04-22 22:11:34] Tetsuo : Farzad: rapidtrades laughed at me when i longed BTS @ 666
[2017-04-22 22:11:39] hmmmYea : not much. but some
[2017-04-22 22:11:42] sleger : they have btc/usd already, usdt/usd is no more edgy than that @Ahhere
[2017-04-22 22:11:44] Tetsuo : now they are at 987
[2017-04-22 22:11:51] sleger : hmmmYea: but WHY ?
[2017-04-22 22:12:12] hmmmYea : sleger: optionality to fade a panic print
[2017-04-22 22:12:22] Farzad : I will buy a lot of BTS
[2017-04-22 22:12:27] Farzad : it has a bright future
[2017-04-22 22:12:28] hmmmYea : and then cover
[2017-04-22 22:12:46] Tetsuo : Farzad: i´m not sure about that :-)
[2017-04-22 22:12:54] Farzad : smart assets idea is genius
[2017-04-22 22:12:56] Ahhere : That's basically taking bets on competitor failing which could draw resentment if finex survive @sleger
[2017-04-22 22:13:13] Farzad : it has not taken off because it is a little hard to understand
[2017-04-22 22:13:23] Tetsuo : hmmmYea: your a fool
[2017-04-22 22:13:24] Farzad : but it is genius
[2017-04-22 22:13:27] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTM17`: sell 68875 @ 1246.2 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2017-04-22 22:14:06] Tetsuo : there is not a single reason beside beeing trapped in lending to have anything on their site right now
[2017-04-22 22:14:30] Ahhere : Unless you know it's safe
[2017-04-22 22:14:33] rapidtrades : /price
[2017-04-22 22:14:35] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1242.95 (-0.16%) Bitfinex : 1343.00 (-0.64%) The Woodchipper : 1263.93 (-0.32%) itBit : 1245.51 (-0.04%) Kraken : 1245.16 (-0.25%) GDAX : 1248.30 (-0.30%) SLQ : 6 mins```
[2017-04-22 22:14:57] Ahhere : And are margin long until announcement that stops the pump
[2017-04-22 22:15:00] Farzad : actually the traders who have accepted the risk are making a ton of money there right now
[2017-04-22 22:15:03] Tetsuo : rapidtrades: stop spamming
[2017-04-22 22:15:15] Ahhere : Farzad: damn right
[2017-04-22 22:15:28] hmmmYea : Tetsuo: if you have traded more situations like this than i have, i would be surpised (but its obviously possible, considering i know nothing about your professional background)
[2017-04-22 22:15:39] aethlios : Tetsuo: i will go to church and pray after i withdraw my ltc.
[2017-04-22 22:15:58] Tetsuo : hmmmYea: i´m in BTC trading since 2012 and have never lost anything due to hacks of exchanges
[2017-04-22 22:16:03] aethlios : or better go before so God can listen to my pray??
[2017-04-22 22:16:41] Tetsuo : God is dead
[2017-04-22 22:16:57] Tetsuo : A famous german siad so
[2017-04-22 22:17:10] Ahhere : aethlios: you are long ltcusd on finex is it?
[2017-04-22 22:17:13] hmmmYea : Tetsuo: this situation is not unique to crypto. comes up frequently with slightly different parameters.
[2017-04-22 22:17:24] Tetsuo : hmmmYea: better safe than sorry
[2017-04-22 22:17:56] aethlios : Ahhere: i am lending and wait loans to expire or shorters to get rekt and return my ltc.
[2017-04-22 22:19:14] aethlios : all market follows finex, stupid btc traders.
[2017-04-22 22:19:14] hmmmYea : Tetsuo: there sir, we have a fundamental differnce of opinion ;)
[2017-04-22 22:19:18] Ahhere : ah @aethlios
[2017-04-22 22:19:39] aethlios : Ahhere: i am long ltc from 4 but all coins.
[2017-04-22 22:20:08] Ahhere : you mean long by hodling?
[2017-04-22 22:20:16] aethlios : https://twitter.com/Bitfinexed/status/855076454496964608
[2017-04-22 22:20:26] aethlios : Ahhere: yes bought cash.
[2017-04-22 22:20:51] sleger : Ahhere: with what arthur already said on finex, i dont think they wouldnt do a usdt futures for that reason
[2017-04-22 22:21:51] Ahhere : Yeah i guess its just business @sleger i would buy usdt
[2017-04-22 22:22:38] Tetsuo : https://twitter.com/Pangu_exe/status/855108213339033600 lol
[2017-04-22 22:23:27] aethlios : finex wallet stable last 2 days.
[2017-04-22 22:23:53] Ahhere : Yeah saw that @aethlios
[2017-04-22 22:24:30] Ahhere : either people trust or btc withdrawals delayed but we would have heard
[2017-04-22 22:24:42] aethlios : high lending rates and premium will attract some kamikazi capital.
[2017-04-22 22:24:57] Ahhere : like you lol
[2017-04-22 22:25:07] Ahhere : ;)
[2017-04-22 22:25:19] aethlios : Ahhere: i was in before the ban, just long term lending.
[2017-04-22 22:25:30] Ahhere : i guessed that :P
[2017-04-22 22:26:25] Actualiteit : I for one think this can only end well. bitfinex is just leading the way guys, lets go 10k incoming choo choo!
[2017-04-22 22:26:41] shillosopher : 10k is for pleb
[2017-04-22 22:26:45] shillosopher : 500k incoming
[2017-04-22 22:26:54] Actualiteit : my bad
[2017-04-22 22:27:01] Actualiteit : youre right
[2017-04-22 22:27:35] Ahhere : _clicks market buy_
[2017-04-22 22:27:36] shillosopher : Actualiteit: you are forgiven
[2017-04-22 22:30:30] sleger : hmmmYea: what % of your coins you think you will be able to withdraw when the cold wallet is empty ?
[2017-04-22 22:30:44] Actualiteit : bout three fiddy?
[2017-04-22 22:32:06] MikeHunt : tree fiddy?
[2017-04-22 22:33:00] Actualiteit : yes
[2017-04-22 22:33:02] Actualiteit : three fiddy.
[2017-04-22 22:35:55] Farzad : /joke
[2017-04-22 22:35:56] trollbot : ``` A man was drinking the blood of a vampire... He said, "Hm, irony"```
[2017-04-22 22:36:26] Farzad : /joke
[2017-04-22 22:36:27] trollbot : ``` Why did the chicken cross the road? To escape Kim Jong Un's long range missiles.```
[2017-04-22 22:39:23] Farzad : is there a live feed of .BXBT available through websocket ?
[2017-04-22 22:41:25] MikeHunt : in NK apparently ICBM means I Can't Believe its a Missile
[2017-04-22 22:44:22] aethlios : i guess some large capital wait for SW to lock before investing, so ltc can get to 20 after SW locks for sure.
[2017-04-22 22:45:03] aethlios : after the signal stop signal drama they want to be sure.
[2017-04-22 22:46:34] Farzad : it is just hype
[2017-04-22 22:46:48] Farzad : ltc will go back to $1 after SW hype is over
[2017-04-22 22:47:03] sleger : ^ lol
[2017-04-22 22:47:07] sleger : but he made mark an admin
[2017-04-22 22:47:09] sleger : so ....
[2017-04-22 22:47:29] aethlios : Farzad: i will buy back at 1 again.
[2017-04-22 22:47:38] Farzad : I understand, u r new to this
[2017-04-22 22:47:56] sleger : ask rapid how happy he is with his short at 4$
[2017-04-22 22:48:29] sleger : he is by a red light with a basked asking for coins (not bitcoins no)
[2017-04-22 22:48:42] Farzad : ltc has no fundamental. like many other shit coins
[2017-04-22 22:49:05] Farzad : just a copy of BTC
[2017-04-22 22:49:07] sleger : btc has fundamentals ?
[2017-04-22 22:49:09] sleger : which ?
[2017-04-22 22:49:19] aethlios : Farzad: we trade, don't marry the coins for ever.
[2017-04-22 22:49:22] Farzad : not really. but BTC has the brand
[2017-04-22 22:49:40] frog : btc has secure chain which is valuable
[2017-04-22 22:49:42] sleger : bitcoin "core" ?
[2017-04-22 22:49:44] Farzad : actually 80% of my investment is in alt coins right now
[2017-04-22 22:50:09] sleger : "Farzad: ltc has no fundamental. like many other shit coins" followed by "Farzad: actually 80% of my investment is in alt coins right now"
[2017-04-22 22:50:13] sleger : i mean WTF ???
[2017-04-22 22:50:14] aethlios : Farzad: what do you hold?
[2017-04-22 22:50:38] Farzad : yes, but which coins has been hacked so far ? BTC has the brand.
[2017-04-22 22:50:50] Farzad : aethlios: DASH ETH XMR
[2017-04-22 22:51:12] aethlios : Farzad: bought before the pumped?
[2017-04-22 22:51:12] Farzad : BTC is like apple
[2017-04-22 22:51:17] Farzad : aethlios: yes
[2017-04-22 22:51:30] Farzad : Apple has nothing so special
[2017-04-22 22:51:50] Armis : Oh xmr in poloniex sometimes jump so high omg,
[2017-04-22 22:51:52] Farzad : but charges people 4x because it has brand recognition
[2017-04-22 22:52:24] aethlios : Farzad: kodak was like btc once upon a time.
[2017-04-22 22:52:35] Farzad : exactly
[2017-04-22 22:52:42] Farzad : it can happen to BTC as well
[2017-04-22 22:53:01] sleger : Did anyone read that : "Farzad: ltc has no fundamental. like many other shit coins" followed by "Farzad: actually 80% of my investment is in alt coins right now"
[2017-04-22 22:53:04] Farzad : but LTC ! lol
[2017-04-22 22:53:35] Farzad : sleger: it is not my fault that u r dumb. lol
[2017-04-22 22:53:38] aethlios : Farzad: so dash has more fundamentals than ltc?? like the instamine of 2.5 miilion??
[2017-04-22 22:53:38] sleger : ok it's a trollbox, but pay attention to what you writen within 30s
[2017-04-22 22:53:47] sleger : Farzad: you made mark an admin
[2017-04-22 22:53:53] sleger : therefore you are the dumbest idiot here
[2017-04-22 22:54:03] Farzad : sleger: dont be jelous
[2017-04-22 22:54:19] Farzad : aethlios: fundamental has nothing to do with instamine
[2017-04-22 22:54:26] sleger : it's jealous ! and of what ?
[2017-04-22 22:54:52] Farzad : DASH has great governance and fundamentals
[2017-04-22 22:54:55] aethlios : sleger: he bought eth before it pumped
[2017-04-22 22:55:09] sleger : i bought few tens of thousand of eth before it pumped
[2017-04-22 22:55:12] sleger : so what
[2017-04-22 22:55:21] aethlios : i know........
[2017-04-22 22:55:40] Farzad : no, u bought few millions of eth before it pumped !
[2017-04-22 22:55:42] shillosopher : lol dash
[2017-04-22 22:55:44] frog : @Farzad what are the valuable dash fundamentals?
[2017-04-22 22:55:50] sleger : Farzad: no i didnt
[2017-04-22 22:56:02] sleger : you are just a troll now
[2017-04-22 22:56:04] Farzad : frog: Great community
[2017-04-22 22:56:06] sleger : please behave
[2017-04-22 22:56:09] Farzad : Great governance
[2017-04-22 22:56:12] aethlios : this chat should be used to exchange charts, info, opinion about the market, but we use it for wrong reasons.
[2017-04-22 22:56:19] frog : Farzad: TY
[2017-04-22 22:56:21] sleger : dash is a scam, everyone on polo knows it
[2017-04-22 22:56:23] Farzad : Great features
[2017-04-22 22:56:32] Farzad : sleger: we will see ;)
[2017-04-22 22:56:39] sleger : tezos 1m times > dash
[2017-04-22 22:56:52] Farzad : instasend confirms transactions under 4 seconds
[2017-04-22 22:56:55] sleger : and not a scam (apparently doesnt matter a lot around here)
[2017-04-22 22:57:15] Farzad : meanwhile u wait 45 minutes on BTC confrimations ! lol
[2017-04-22 22:57:44] Farzad : BTC has 0 governance
[2017-04-22 22:57:58] Farzad : I dont blame BTC
[2017-04-22 22:58:01] Farzad : it was the first
[2017-04-22 22:58:06] Farzad : it is old and rusty now
[2017-04-22 22:58:31] Farzad : BTC dominance has fallen to about 60% now
[2017-04-22 22:58:34] Farzad : from 100%
[2017-04-22 22:58:54] sleger : Farzad: what price you bought eth ?
[2017-04-22 22:59:14] Farzad : I dont remember exactly. it was a long time ago
[2017-04-22 22:59:14] Actualiteit : web 67.do m8
[2017-04-22 22:59:17] sleger : monero is an okay coin but it wont pick up
[2017-04-22 22:59:28] sleger : too many p&d on it
[2017-04-22 22:59:35] Farzad : p&d ?
[2017-04-22 22:59:35] sleger : dash is a scam
[2017-04-22 22:59:40] sleger : pump&dump ?
[2017-04-22 22:59:53] Farzad : why is dash a scam ?
[2017-04-22 23:00:00] Farzad : because of instamine ?
[2017-04-22 23:00:04] Farzad : who cares !?
[2017-04-22 23:00:11] shillosopher : masternodes = scam
[2017-04-22 23:00:14] Farzad : satoshi has millions of BTC as well
[2017-04-22 23:00:17] sleger : it was designed for a quick cashout
[2017-04-22 23:00:24] sleger : not a progressive payout
[2017-04-22 23:00:25] Actualiteit : pepecash is the future
[2017-04-22 23:00:27] sleger : so no not the same
[2017-04-22 23:00:32] sleger : but then you made mark an admin !!!
[2017-04-22 23:00:34] sleger : mark121
[2017-04-22 23:00:36] sleger : !!!!
[2017-04-22 23:00:37] shillosopher : Actualiteit: pepecash is the one true crypto
[2017-04-22 23:00:38] Farzad : lol
[2017-04-22 23:00:49] sleger : HOW on earth did you make that decision ?
[2017-04-22 23:00:54] sleger : you smoke crack ?
[2017-04-22 23:01:01] shillosopher : masternodes are designed to lock up supply and drive price up
[2017-04-22 23:01:06] Farzad : no, unlike you. he was a nice person.
[2017-04-22 23:01:07] sleger : STOP its bad for you !!!!
[2017-04-22 23:01:18] sleger : Farzad: nice though got banned
[2017-04-22 23:01:27] sleger : he is nice with dummies
[2017-04-22 23:01:30] Farzad : shillosopher: no, they are designed for network stability.
[2017-04-22 23:01:34] sleger : cause he knows he can scam them
[2017-04-22 23:01:37] sleger : good luck
[2017-04-22 23:01:43] Farzad : on BTC, no one has any incentive to run a full node
[2017-04-22 23:02:10] Farzad : I am contributing a full node.
[2017-04-22 23:02:17] Farzad : but I dont make anything
[2017-04-22 23:02:25] Farzad : I just pay for server
[2017-04-22 23:02:35] Farzad : in DASH masternodes have incentive
[2017-04-22 23:02:38] sleger : you also pay for a trollbot
[2017-04-22 23:02:43] Farzad : to secure the network
[2017-04-22 23:03:03] Farzad : yes, thats another contribution.
[2017-04-22 23:03:19] Farzad : I also have an electrum server
[2017-04-22 23:03:22] Farzad : if u want to use
[2017-04-22 23:03:33] sleger : the only useful thing is this
[2017-04-22 23:03:34] sleger : /joke
[2017-04-22 23:03:35] trollbot : ``` A girl says to her mom, "I want a Barbie and a GI Joe". Mom says, "Doesn't Barbie come with Ken?" And the girl replies, "No, Barbie comes with GI Joe. She just fakes it with Ken."```
[2017-04-22 23:03:43] rapidtrades : /price
[2017-04-22 23:03:45] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1243.69 (0.06%) Bitfinex : 1343.10 (0.01%) The Woodchipper : 1264.67 (0.06%) itBit : 1244.44 (-0.09%) Kraken : 1246.01 (0.07%) GDAX : 1249.99 (0.14%) SLQ : 49 mins```
[2017-04-22 23:04:01] frog : sleger: which alts have best development independent of BTC code?
[2017-04-22 23:04:11] sleger : eth, tezos
[2017-04-22 23:04:21] Farzad : tezos ?
[2017-04-22 23:04:23] rapidtrades : lol @tezos
[2017-04-22 23:04:34] rapidtrades : some gayass ETH app
[2017-04-22 23:04:35] sleger : its the new upcoming hood
[2017-04-22 23:04:42] sleger : no its not an app at all dummy
[2017-04-22 23:04:58] sleger : its a new protocol, similar to eth, but better
[2017-04-22 23:05:03] aethlios : sleger: how much usd ico do you think they will collect?
[2017-04-22 23:05:08] rapidtrades : the new P&D after the idiots are fleeced in LTC
[2017-04-22 23:05:28] sleger : i have no clue what makes people buy one and not another @aethlios
[2017-04-22 23:05:36] sleger : rapidtrades: actually not at all
[2017-04-22 23:05:43] sleger : they do an ICO just before going live
[2017-04-22 23:05:49] aethlios : rapidtrades: sold 1/3 of ltc to get in tezos and other future p&d ideas.
[2017-04-22 23:05:50] sleger : not to fund a development
[2017-04-22 23:07:01] aethlios : sleger: they will have a POS system, so will earn interest.
[2017-04-22 23:07:21] sleger : yes but i dont really care about 5% a year
[2017-04-22 23:07:35] sleger : for crypto i want 50% minimum
[2017-04-22 23:08:12] aethlios : sleger: 5% must be the total supply increase but only those who stack will earn it. so if 25% of coins are stacked then is 20%!!!!
[2017-04-22 23:08:50] aethlios : will learn more details soon.
[2017-04-22 23:09:12] sleger : yes but i bet much more than 25% will stack as exchanges will do it on behalf of holders i bet
[2017-04-22 23:13:43] aethlios : sleger: no, i read the white paper, you "close" the coins for 1 year in a bond king of contract.
[2017-04-22 23:14:24] sleger : they said they will change those parameters from the white paper
[2017-04-22 23:14:33] sleger : so it will be much shorter, especially at the beginning
[2017-04-22 23:14:54] sleger : numbers in the whitepaper are just as an example, not "hardcoded"
[2017-04-22 23:15:11] rapidtrades : can we talk about the elephant in the room
[2017-04-22 23:15:15] rapidtrades : finex blow up
[2017-04-22 23:15:55] aethlios : rapidtrades: https://bitinfocharts.com/bitcoin/address/3D2oetdNuZUqQHPJmcMDDHYoqkyNVsFk9r wallet stable last 48 hours.
[2017-04-22 23:15:55] Farzad : finex will be fine
[2017-04-22 23:16:13] rapidtrades : ''finex will be fine'' Farzad 2017
[2017-04-22 23:16:46] rapidtrades : I would screenshot that statement but I don't have any beefs with u
[2017-04-22 23:17:24] rapidtrades : wouldn't give me pleasure to prove u wrong like with these two assholes >>> @sleger @aethlios
[2017-04-22 23:17:26] Farzad : yeah, mark my words
[2017-04-22 23:17:56] Farzad : hwo can u prove ? time will tell
[2017-04-22 23:18:04] aethlios : rapidtrades: i hope you short tezos soon, keep last capital for that short.
[2017-04-22 23:18:47] Farzad : finex has problems with USD. but they are solvent
[2017-04-22 23:18:52] rapidtrades : ''finex never dies and always returns stronger'' @aethlios 2017
[2017-04-22 23:18:56] rapidtrades : i have that screenshot
[2017-04-22 23:19:07] sleger : rapidtrades: when did you prove us wrong ?
[2017-04-22 23:19:14] sleger : shorting btc at 800 or ltc at 4 ?
[2017-04-22 23:19:18] aethlios : rapidtrades: hold that strong.
[2017-04-22 23:19:19] sleger : which one is it ?
[2017-04-22 23:21:10] Farzad : finex still has 80K BTC in its cold wallet
[2017-04-22 23:21:22] Farzad : and a lot of alt coins
[2017-04-22 23:21:30] Farzad : just look at DASH funding
[2017-04-22 23:21:39] Farzad : although the rate is not high
[2017-04-22 23:21:47] Farzad : like 0.04%
[2017-04-22 23:22:03] Farzad : there are thousands of DASH there for funding
[2017-04-22 23:22:12] Farzad : same for ETH and others
[2017-04-22 23:22:20] rapidtrades : how do we know that they have 80k
[2017-04-22 23:22:35] Farzad : their cold wallet address is public
[2017-04-22 23:22:39] Farzad : u can check
[2017-04-22 23:22:43] rapidtrades : are there really that many idiots left
[2017-04-22 23:22:52] sleger : they had 150k a week ago
[2017-04-22 23:22:56] Farzad : stats show about 50% of people have panicked
[2017-04-22 23:22:57] sleger : half withdrew
[2017-04-22 23:23:02] rapidtrades : sleger: lol
[2017-04-22 23:23:06] sleger : its not panicked dummy its normal
[2017-04-22 23:23:40] sleger : only 33k margin short, so 45k have btc there not on shorts.....
[2017-04-22 23:23:53] sleger : probably mark121 has his 0.5btc there too
[2017-04-22 23:24:01] Farzad : lol
[2017-04-22 23:24:08] Farzad : why do u love mark121 so much ?
[2017-04-22 23:24:22] Farzad : are u 2 married or something ?
[2017-04-22 23:24:25] sleger : im not the only one
[2017-04-22 23:24:36] sleger : he is a scammer and a liar
[2017-04-22 23:25:00] Farzad : for selling his trade strategy ?
[2017-04-22 23:25:11] sleger : hey just email him your private key
[2017-04-22 23:25:14] sleger : see what happens
[2017-04-22 23:25:30] Farzad : the same will happen if I email u my private key ! lol
[2017-04-22 23:25:37] sleger : he kept lying from day 1, only idiots couldnt see it
[2017-04-22 23:25:57] Farzad : well, I dont know him that much
[2017-04-22 23:26:03] sleger : yet you made him an admin
[2017-04-22 23:26:13] sleger : good job
[2017-04-22 23:26:14] Farzad : yeah, he was nice
[2017-04-22 23:26:24] sleger : most scammers are nice
[2017-04-22 23:26:30] sleger : thats why it works on idiots
[2017-04-22 23:26:32] Farzad : be nice and may be I make u a mod as well
[2017-04-22 23:26:51] sleger : bad way of deciding who to trust
[2017-04-22 23:26:51] Farzad : learn from mark121
[2017-04-22 23:27:00] sleger : most nigerian princes are very nice
[2017-04-22 23:27:07] sleger : from the emails they sent me
[2017-04-22 23:27:07] Farzad : being nice has a lot of benefits
[2017-04-22 23:27:18] Tetsuo : Farzad: i heard polpot was a vegetarian
[2017-04-22 23:27:20] Farzad : sure, why not ?
[2017-04-22 23:28:12] Farzad : polpot ?
[2017-04-22 23:28:35] Farzad : Pol Pot was a Cambodian revolutionary who led the Khmer Rouge from 1963 until 1997
[2017-04-22 23:28:50] Farzad : how do u expect me to know this ? lol
[2017-04-22 23:28:52] Tetsuo : Farzad: Pol Pot - a vegan - murdered some 2 million Cambodians in his lifetime.
[2017-04-22 23:29:03] Tetsuo : maybe make him a mod too
[2017-04-22 23:29:25] Farzad : if he does his job right, why not ?
[2017-04-22 23:29:28] rapidtrades : mark121 = pol pot
[2017-04-22 23:29:45] Farzad : lol
[2017-04-22 23:29:52] sleger : like mark121 will be a good admin ?
[2017-04-22 23:29:53] Farzad : why u all hate eachother ?
[2017-04-22 23:29:57] sleger : omg you are one of a kind
[2017-04-22 23:30:07] shillosopher : Farzad: they all hate each other here
[2017-04-22 23:30:18] sleger : yet you can code that's weird, usually coders are not that dumb
[2017-04-22 23:30:30] sleger : shillosopher: shhh hater
[2017-04-22 23:30:39] Tetsuo : shillosopher: watch your back
[2017-04-22 23:30:51] shillosopher : ^proof lol
[2017-04-22 23:31:02] Farzad : Tetsuo: from back again ? be a man !
[2017-04-22 23:32:16] Farzad : https://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/volume/24-hour/
[2017-04-22 23:32:23] Farzad : bitfinex is still #2
[2017-04-22 23:33:27] sleger : gox was #1 when it was dead
[2017-04-22 23:33:37] sleger : what's your point ?
[2017-04-22 23:33:42] Tetsuo : Thoughts about Finex: “It is not worth the bother of killing yourself, since you always kill yourself too late.”
[2017-04-22 23:34:12] Farzad : sleger: yeah, because there was virtually no other exchange
[2017-04-22 23:34:48] sleger : you keep making useless points
[2017-04-22 23:34:57] sleger : talk about something you're good at
[2017-04-22 23:35:00] sleger : instead
[2017-04-22 23:35:08] Tetsuo : Thoughts about mark121 : “If we could truly see ourselves the way others see us we'd disappear on the spot.!"
[2017-04-22 23:35:16] Farzad : they are not useless, u r not smart enough to understand them
[2017-04-22 23:35:32] sleger : Farzad: please
[2017-04-22 23:35:42] sleger : you made mark an admin
[2017-04-22 23:35:46] sleger : so shhhh
[2017-04-22 23:35:55] Farzad : I will make him a super mode
[2017-04-22 23:35:57] Farzad : mod *
[2017-04-22 23:36:02] Farzad : to teach u a lesson
[2017-04-22 23:36:05] shillosopher : Farzad: do it lol
[2017-04-22 23:36:13] sleger : you cant teach me anything it seems
[2017-04-22 23:36:28] Tetsuo : Farzad: @shillosopher i see a bad moon rising for both of you
[2017-04-22 23:36:41] shillosopher : lol
[2017-04-22 23:36:53] Farzad : well I see sun rising for us :D
[2017-04-22 23:37:17] sleger : Farzad: you seem like a nice person
[2017-04-22 23:37:20] sleger : but you try to hard
[2017-04-22 23:37:36] Farzad : yeah, actually I am a nice person
[2017-04-22 23:37:41] sleger : I can tell
[2017-04-22 23:37:43] sleger : I am not
[2017-04-22 23:37:47] Farzad : I can tell
[2017-04-22 23:37:51] Farzad : lol
[2017-04-22 23:37:53] sleger : but I am smart
[2017-04-22 23:38:07] sleger : and I make a lot of $$$ here and elsewhere
[2017-04-22 23:38:20] Tetsuo : new highs @ okk ltc quarterlys
[2017-04-22 23:38:20] Farzad : u r smart because u make a lot of $$$ ?
[2017-04-22 23:38:25] sleger : and I know to recognize dummies and scammers/liars like mark121
[2017-04-22 23:38:32] sleger : no i make $$$ because i am smart
[2017-04-22 23:38:47] sleger : that's why it never stopped
[2017-04-22 23:38:54] Farzad : we should see in long term
[2017-04-22 23:39:06] Farzad : I know a dummy who has made a fortune by trading BTC
[2017-04-22 23:39:13] sleger : my job is a systematic algo trader
[2017-04-22 23:39:21] Farzad : trading in a bull market is easy
[2017-04-22 23:39:26] sleger : i dont gamble, i know what im doing
[2017-04-22 23:39:34] sleger : i was short more than long on btc
[2017-04-22 23:39:43] Farzad : we should see in longterm
[2017-04-22 23:39:44] sleger : (by more i mean longer in time)
[2017-04-22 23:39:58] sleger : been doing this since 2013
[2017-04-22 23:40:01] Farzad : well, good for you !
[2017-04-22 23:40:06] sleger : on bitcoin, and longer in my job
[2017-04-22 23:40:19] Farzad : 2013 so far has been easy
[2017-04-22 23:40:24] sleger : I had one down month
[2017-04-22 23:40:28] Farzad : always bull market
[2017-04-22 23:40:34] sleger : because i slept through an expiry where i had a 3000btc position
[2017-04-22 23:40:50] sleger : and it was 50$ against me when i woke up
[2017-04-22 23:41:02] sleger : not always a bull market are you serious ???
[2017-04-22 23:41:08] sleger : it went from 1000 to 200
[2017-04-22 23:41:22] rapidtrades : lol
[2017-04-22 23:41:37] rapidtrades : THAT;S IN TEH PASTS
[2017-04-22 23:41:41] sleger : i shorted at 1800-2000 on icbit (the first futures exchange on bitcoin) at the time, said in the chat "I'll buy back at 200"
[2017-04-22 23:41:43] sleger : same username
[2017-04-22 23:41:44] rapidtrades : won't happen again
[2017-04-22 23:42:01] sleger : if you know anyone trading there for a while they can confirm
[2017-04-22 23:42:25] rapidtrades : so you've always been a compulsive chatter?
[2017-04-22 23:42:29] Farzad : sleger: well, no one can predict market like that. you have been just lucky
[2017-04-22 23:42:34] rapidtrades : need the outside validation eh?
[2017-04-22 23:42:35] Farzad : if u r smart, u know that
[2017-04-22 23:42:59] sleger : Farzad: its my job i dont do it out of thin air, there are algos behind it, its all systematic
[2017-04-22 23:43:14] sleger : some positions i take manually are long term fondamental (lik eth)
[2017-04-22 23:43:15] Farzad : well good for u !
[2017-04-22 23:43:24] Farzad : u have found the golden algo then
[2017-04-22 23:43:31] rapidtrades : lol @fundamental
[2017-04-22 23:43:31] aethlios : LTCCCCCCCCCCC!!!
[2017-04-22 23:43:48] sleger : rapidtrades: it did x5 .... not sure why you lol at
[2017-04-22 23:43:48] rapidtrades : calm down greek
[2017-04-22 23:44:12] rapidtrades : cos its gonna fall back down like everything else
[2017-04-22 23:44:23] rapidtrades : repeat of 2013
[2017-04-22 23:44:37] rapidtrades : bitcoin pumps, shitcoin fall, bitcoin crashes, shitcoins crash more
[2017-04-22 23:44:37] sleger : Farzad: selling a 3m futures at 2000 when spot is 1000 is not a golden algo
[2017-04-22 23:44:52] rapidtrades : bitcoin pumps, shitcoin follow, bitcoin crashes, shitcoins crash more
[2017-04-22 23:44:57] rapidtrades : ^ fixed
[2017-04-22 23:45:04] Farzad : but predicting it reaching 200 is
[2017-04-22 23:45:25] sleger : i bought back between 350 and 150
[2017-04-22 23:45:28] sleger : avg 200
[2017-04-22 23:45:32] aethlios : rapidtrades: not any more, btc pumped to 1300 but eth dash xmr also pumped.
[2017-04-22 23:45:53] sleger : yes 200 was lucky but if it did stop falling then i would most likely have bought back higher
[2017-04-22 23:45:56] rapidtrades : we went from 1000 premiums to persistent futures discount
[2017-04-22 23:45:59] aethlios : rapidtrades: and if btc crashes, alts will pump more/
[2017-04-22 23:46:07] rapidtrades : ^ lol
[2017-04-22 23:46:15] sleger : rapidtrades: futures discount was a sign to buy and it did go up
[2017-04-22 23:46:18] rapidtrades : stop saying dumb shit i can't screenshot everything
[2017-04-22 23:46:43] aethlios : rapidtrades: many see btc is the new kodak
[2017-04-22 23:47:06] sleger : I am not super bearish on btc, but there is more upside elsewhere
[2017-04-22 23:47:30] aethlios : rapidtrades: panic will hit when btc #2 in market cap.
[2017-04-22 23:47:43] sleger : i've started to put 50% of my crypto gains into real estate, makes 10-14% cash flow, good enough
[2017-04-22 23:48:05] sleger : just 50% of the pnl (not base collateral)
[2017-04-22 23:48:06] aethlios : eth will be #1 but could last 2-3 years until something more complete arrives.
[2017-04-22 23:49:06] rapidtrades : /price
[2017-04-22 23:49:08] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1236.20 (-0.60%) Bitfinex : 1342.50 (-0.04%) The Woodchipper : 1264.41 (-0.02%) itBit : 1242.46 (-0.16%) Kraken : 1240.45 (-0.45%) GDAX : 1246.56 (-0.27%) SLQ : 45 mins```
[2017-04-22 23:49:33] sleger : ^ scared ?
[2017-04-22 23:49:43] rapidtrades : gap is growing...at some point we will decouple and fall instead of follow
[2017-04-22 23:49:43] aethlios : the market is in a trial and error phase until a major coin establishes, maybe this coin doesn't exist yet.
[2017-04-22 23:49:46] sleger : which country you're in now ? @rapidtrades
[2017-04-22 23:53:52] aethlios : ltc new highs btce finex
[2017-04-22 23:54:41] aethlios : rally to 20 when SW locks from lon term investors.
[2017-04-22 23:54:50] Tetsuo : closed all longs @ 11.90 @okkorn quarterlys
[2017-04-22 23:58:27] aethlios : Tetsuo: from 4??
[2017-04-22 23:59:38] Tetsuo : my last longs were opened @ 9$closed my first ones @ ~ 10$ after the first pump
[2017-04-22 23:59:49] Tetsuo : first ones were openend @ 4$
[2017-04-23 00:00:28] premium_freak : I bought at $4 and sold it all at $4.20 :(
[2017-04-23 00:00:44] premium_freak : I thought SW wasn't happening.. took too long
[2017-04-23 00:01:02] Ahhere : 5% return bro
[2017-04-23 00:01:07] Ahhere : thats amazing in the real world
[2017-04-23 00:01:14] Ahhere : crytpo world tho...
[2017-04-23 00:01:40] aethlios : premium_freak: someone else shorted 4.34 and closed 13.25 so you are good. Hr also thought SW wasn't happening.
[2017-04-23 00:01:58] sleger : premium_freak: how much volume you trade per day on average ?
[2017-04-23 00:02:06] Ahhere : who shorted 4.34
[2017-04-23 00:02:19] sleger : Ahhere: someone quick
[2017-04-23 00:02:29] premium_freak : sleger: depends.. lately I hardly trade
[2017-04-23 00:02:33] Ahhere : lol
[2017-04-23 00:02:46] sleger : premium_freak: let me rephrase then, what avg size position you take ?
[2017-04-23 00:02:51] sleger : i think i recall some convos
[2017-04-23 00:03:02] premium_freak : I bought $30k worth of LTC at $4 that time
[2017-04-23 00:03:29] aethlios : Ahhere: rapid.
[2017-04-23 00:03:35] sleger : I think you made sense, and not tiny trades, we have a private convo group, share ideas, wanna join ? @premium_freak
[2017-04-23 00:03:54] premium_freak : sure.. as long as I can connect anonymously
[2017-04-23 00:03:57] sleger : @rullwull are you still around ?
[2017-04-23 00:04:09] sleger : premium_freak: its a slack group, just need an email
[2017-04-23 00:04:23] premium_freak : pennystock3r@gmail.com
[2017-04-23 00:04:24] sleger : you can send it to sleger@protonmail.com